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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: https://twitter.com/JLLLOW/status/255849906001035264 | Oct 10 13:44 |
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| TechrightsSocial | @JLLLOW: US Supreme Court refuses to hear case on warrantless wiretapping. *Transition to totalitarian state complete* http://t.co/1ljdSj7l | Oct 10 13:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: The Supreme Court Isn't Bothered By the NSA’s Warrantless Wiretapping - Politics - The Atlantic Wire .::. Size~: 64.38 KB | Oct 10 13:44 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I like thw twiter background photo. Real? | Oct 10 14:39 |
| schestowitz | *twiter | Oct 10 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Oct 10 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | "We also know what things to avoid -- potential sources of tension of friction, especially external ones. People are often made naive enough to believe that their surroundings are all looking for their benefit, forgetting that jealousy is rampant, that many people have total disregard for other people's feelings (even when they say "I'm happy for you" to be polite), that companies try to just sell us lots of stuff we don't | Oct 10 14:50 |
| schestowitz | need and cannot afford (they spin that as offering a service or social status elevation), and that the route to happiness is more complex a thing than enjoying one's moment, day, life." | Oct 10 14:50 |
| schestowitz | (me in a chat) | Oct 10 14:51 |
| schestowitz | that last part is wrong. I meant, "is NOT more complex a thing" | Oct 10 14:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: don't know. crossed my mind to ask as well. :) | Oct 10 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | wonder* | Oct 10 15:14 |
| schestowitz | [15:16] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Facebook Stock Falls Back Below $20 - http://on.mash.to/PnCrPt how are the mighty fallen #ipo | Oct 10 15:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Facebook Stock Falls Back Below $20 .::. Size~: 114.46 KB | Oct 10 15:19 |
| schestowitz | way to got ZUck | Oct 10 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Over a billion spam accounts? | Oct 10 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Many people no longer log in to the site | Oct 10 15:21 |
| schestowitz | some deactivate | Oct 10 15:21 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I was smart | Oct 10 15:36 |
| XFaCE | I deactivated back in 2008 | Oct 10 15:37 |
| XFaCE | I was on it for less than a day | Oct 10 15:37 |
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| roy__ | XFaCE: but wait, did you actually remove your account? Deactiviation is just flagging the account as preferring to temporarily making it not visible to anyone but you and Mark Zuckerberg. Moreover, even if you somehow manage to find the option to really delete the account -- an option whivch they shredly hide from you -- than they doin't delete that for two weeks | Oct 10 15:43 |
| roy__ | After account deletion facebook retains all your data including personal files and this data remains available to government which using warrant and court subpoena can still get to all your personal data which you assume to have been deleted by facebook upon your demand. | Oct 10 15:44 |
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| XFaCE | roy__: Let's put it this way | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | I put my name on it, that's it | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | I deleted the account, never used it whatsoever :) | Oct 10 15:47 |
| XFaCE | Plus this was back in the early early days of facebook (relatively) :) | Oct 10 15:48 |
| XFaCE | roy__: Would they actually keep such a useless account from 2008? :P | Oct 10 15:49 |
| XFaCE | roy__: I never thought of it | Oct 10 15:50 |
| roy__ | why would they not? They just flag it deleted, then they keep it for backup, advertising, data-mining, etc. I think the EULA and US low totally allow them to do this,. | Oct 10 15:51 |
| XFaCE | Could I even remove it for real now? | Oct 10 15:53 |
| XFaCE | son of a bitch | Oct 10 15:55 |
| XFaCE | it's just an email, but it's still there | Oct 10 15:55 |
| XFaCE | lol | Oct 10 15:55 |
| roy__ | "Yes, and since we're brought up in relatively good homes and not broken homes, it is hard for us to grasp how wrecked homes can come about, or how children (now adults) raised in a broken home can seek to avenge by toppling those more fortunate in their civilisation, often under disguise of being civil. Some people try to substitute lack of love (that they didn't receive at home) with monetary accomplishment in their adult life | Oct 10 15:55 |
| roy__ | and some turn the other way to Goth/heavy metal as a form of symbolism of anger or non-conformism (to distinguish themselves). The source of much hurt though it poor upbringing." | Oct 10 15:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'broken homes'? | Oct 10 15:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | the phrase itself is propagandistic | Oct 10 15:58 |
| roy__ | -me | Oct 10 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | nucleo-normative | Oct 10 15:58 |
| roy__ | qu1j0t3: oh | Oct 10 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | and, well, screw that. | Oct 10 15:58 |
| roy__ | I never realised it | Oct 10 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | right:) | Oct 10 15:58 |
| roy__ | is it daemonisation of single-parent families | Oct 10 15:58 |
| roy__ | "As human beings, insecurity, jealousy and other negative behavior does exist or inevitable but it depends on individual behavior. Each and everyone has its own character, attitude, personality..." -my sister in law | Oct 10 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's explicitly demonising any non-traditional family | Oct 10 15:58 |
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| qu1j0t3 | including divorced ones | Oct 10 15:58 |
| schestowitz | ah | Oct 10 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is unacceptable | Oct 10 15:58 |
| schestowitz | I will refrain from using the term then | Oct 10 15:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | especially from my own experience | Oct 10 15:59 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I "permanently" deleted it as you said | Oct 10 15:59 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: as you suspected, the account was just deactivated | Oct 10 15:59 |
| schestowitz | !google give me ma belt judge | Oct 10 15:59 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Marianne Curan: Stop Calling Me 'Ma'am' | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marianne-curan/aging-humor_b_1412995.html | Oct 10 15:59 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Quick & Flupke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_%2526_Flupke | Oct 10 15:59 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Interview with Anna Mitchael, author of 'Just Don't Call Me Ma'am' | http://www.statesman.com/life/books/interview-with-anna-mitchael-author-of-just-dont-950416.html%3FprintArticle%3Dy | Oct 10 15:59 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Lake Placid (1999) - Memorable quotes | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139414/quotes | Oct 10 15:59 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: fortunately, as I said, I didn't use it whatsoever | Oct 10 15:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the availability of stigma-free, no-fault divorce is social progress. | Oct 10 15:59 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: Mark counts you as one among the billion | Oct 10 15:59 |
| schestowitz | heklps him sell ads | Oct 10 16:00 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: He can try | Oct 10 16:00 |
| XFaCE | I'll block all of his malicious crap | Oct 10 16:00 |
| XFaCE | if I have to | Oct 10 16:00 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: In any case, the account was using an obsolete email address, and I last accessed it from a computer that is no longer used | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | "It's inevitable, as people strive to be individuals and it's their only way to surpass another in the race to "alpha [fe]male" or whatever. But telling apart the foe and the friend is essential. Poisonous people around oneself can make the different in one's self esteem, quality of life, etc." | Oct 10 16:02 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I think I'm safe enough considering the circumstances | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | a lot of people no longer access FB | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | some access but don't read, only write | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | others log in and contribute nothing, only read | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | I notice there's more spam there now, all sorts of "invites" | Oct 10 16:03 |
| schestowitz | To give illusion of continued activity | Oct 10 16:03 |
| XFaCE | Mr. Lotta Boner wants to be your friend! | Oct 10 16:03 |
| schestowitz | "It's tough of course, we need to be strong. But children raise with full love and support in any ways can withstand the trials." | Oct 10 16:03 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: how's your marriage? | Oct 10 16:04 |
| XFaCE | I haven't talked to you in awhile and I'm very behind in current going ons :$ | Oct 10 16:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | "children raise with full love and support" ????????? | Oct 10 16:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | what the ever-lovin' fuq? | Oct 10 16:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | you ever see how much children like to be raised by 2 people who can't stand each other? | Oct 10 16:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | fuq that | Oct 10 16:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | honestly get into the 20th Century | Oct 10 16:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'sacred marriage' has a lot to do with unmarried women not having rights | Oct 10 16:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | neanderthal shit | Oct 10 16:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | no offence to neanderthals. some of my best friends are cavemen. | Oct 10 16:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: We have a new signal in case #techrights is in trouble | Oct 10 16:12 |
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| schestowitz | whoa! | Oct 10 16:13 |
| schestowitz | "Just avoid those negative people, as an adult we can tell who is true and not." | Oct 10 16:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | Haha. | Oct 10 16:15 |
| schestowitz | "I'd challenge that premise, not just for the sake of argument or disagreement. I've come across people who are very unskilled at choosing their friends and those whom they hang out with. I think it's a real quote from Freud who said something along the lines of, "maybe the problem is not you, you just surround yourself with jerks." People often have a problem in their lives because they want to associate with people who don' | Oct 10 16:15 |
| schestowitz | t respect them and they therefore compete based on some criteria they can't keep up with (beauty, wealth, sports) and end up burned out." | Oct 10 16:15 |
| schestowitz | (me) | Oct 10 16:15 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: neanderthals are our extict cousins | Oct 10 16:16 |
| schestowitz | I like it when people say we came from them | Oct 10 16:16 |
| schestowitz | or that we came "from monkeys" | Oct 10 16:17 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: We didn't come from them specifically | Oct 10 16:17 |
| XFaCE | but prurigro showed me an article | Oct 10 16:17 |
| schestowitz | we have a common ancestor | Oct 10 16:17 |
| schestowitz | we as in the broad brush of homo sapients | Oct 10 16:17 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Indicated that people with autism/ADD/etc. may have inherited neanderthal genes | Oct 10 16:17 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: So there was interbreeding | Oct 10 16:17 |
| XFaCE | So we did "come" from neanderthals partially | Oct 10 16:18 |
| XFaCE | at least some of us :P | Oct 10 16:18 |
| schestowitz | well, not quite, I reckon | Oct 10 16:18 |
| schestowitz | they could not breed with 'us' | Oct 10 16:18 |
| schestowitz | only our ancestors | Oct 10 16:18 |
| XFaCE | yes | Oct 10 16:18 |
| schestowitz | who were more like neanderthals | Oct 10 16:18 |
| XFaCE | Yeah, except neanderthals were more intelligent and less social | Oct 10 16:19 |
| XFaCE | sound familiar? :) | Oct 10 16:19 |
| schestowitz | the neanderthals didn't get a chance to evolve like we do, e.g. become blonde and blue-eyed in places where we need fire to survive the cold | Oct 10 16:19 |
| XFaCE | true | Oct 10 16:19 |
| XFaCE | But then didn't completely die out either | Oct 10 16:19 |
| schestowitz | and our ancestors from back in the days were not all that bright either | Oct 10 16:19 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes argue with creationsist who diss monkeys | Oct 10 16:19 |
| schestowitz | pretending that only we can make tools | Oct 10 16:19 |
| schestowitz | or that monkeys have no emotions or social structures | Oct 10 16:19 |
| XFaCE | creationsists on the ass of humanity :D | Oct 10 16:20 |
| schestowitz | dolphins can talk like humans do | Oct 10 16:20 |
| schestowitz | based on patterns we can parse and classify | Oct 10 16:20 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: crows can make tools FFS | Oct 10 16:20 |
| schestowitz | what makes us advance so fast is the ability to educate | Oct 10 16:20 |
| schestowitz | experiement on a child by depreviving him/her education, literary skills etc. and you'd end up seeing something not so different from a chimp | Oct 10 16:21 |
| schestowitz | not to diss chimps... | Oct 10 16:21 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Actually, I believe it was our ability to walk upright that was the first evolutionary edge | Oct 10 16:21 |
| schestowitz | hey, wouldn't it be funny if dissing chimps was to be called "racist"? | Oct 10 16:21 |
| schestowitz | I can go to a zoo and diss their appearance all their want | Oct 10 16:22 |
| schestowitz | They can't lobby over it | Oct 10 16:22 |
| schestowitz | /s/their/I/ | Oct 10 16:22 |
| schestowitz | PC is for humans only | Oct 10 16:22 |
| schestowitz | animals can't get easily offended by words they cannot understand, so.. | Oct 10 16:22 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, agree with you again and so with Freud. People can be a blessing or a lesson to you. You will know a true friend if even in your darkest hour he or she is there. Been with you in your ups and down life." | Oct 10 16:24 |
| schestowitz | "I actually found that, some who were competitive and at times jealous over it were trying to create a really strong bond to overcome that tension and become more united with that whom they envy; I had some people really jumping to my rescue when I least expected it. But that's probably coming to show that people can change." | Oct 10 16:24 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so all private message go to #boycottnovell? :P | Oct 10 16:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Forgot about that :P | Oct 10 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | "Yes, people do change, that's why sometimes you will be surprised because you never expect them to be there when you needed them." | Oct 10 16:57 |
| MinceR | make tools or use preexisting objects unmodified as tools? :> | Oct 10 17:05 |
| schestowitz | the decline of twiter http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/twitter.com | Oct 10 17:18 |
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| schestowitz | or stagnation at least | Oct 10 17:18 |
| schestowitz | more users, not more visitors, probably less | Oct 10 17:19 |
| schestowitz | FB is next | Oct 10 17:19 |
| schestowitz | same trend to follow | Oct 10 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Plateauing http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/facebook.com | Oct 10 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | while Mark Fuckerberg says they increase # of members | Oct 10 17:20 |
| *schestowitz checks about the option of relocating to .sg | Oct 10 20:13 | |
| qu1j0t3 | not for me | Oct 10 20:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | i wouldn't like the climate:) | Oct 10 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | yes, that's the downside everyone inc. my parents speaks about | Oct 10 20:51 |
| MinceR | isn't that an overly ordered state? | Oct 10 20:52 |
| MinceR | and also not quite democratic? | Oct 10 20:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | hehe | Oct 10 20:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | joins a select bunch under that criterion | Oct 10 20:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 10 20:56 |
| schestowitz | no, MinceR, I was not talking about the UK :-) | Oct 10 21:02 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 10 21:02 |
| MinceR | i was talking about singapore :> | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Oct 10 21:02 |
| schestowitz | yes, it is | Oct 10 21:03 |
| schestowitz | like Dubai in some sense | Oct 10 21:03 |
| MinceR | dubai is pretty horrible afaik | Oct 10 21:03 |
| schestowitz | many foreign workers, very ordered, very hot | Oct 10 21:03 |
| schestowitz | dubai is also bankrupt, I think | Oct 10 21:03 |
| schestowitz | or something | Oct 10 21:03 |
| MinceR | <nathan7> assuming homeopathy works | Oct 10 21:13 |
| MinceR | <nathan7> would you be doing best by picking the smallest homeopathic doctor? | Oct 10 21:13 |
| MinceR | <nathan7> with the largest office | Oct 10 21:13 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 10 21:14 |
| schestowitz | dented | Oct 10 21:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | Dubai? last place on earth i'd want to go near | Oct 10 21:25 |
| schestowitz | Out of curiousity I decided to research a little further into .sg and here;s some stuff from Wikipedia that I found interesting. | Oct 10 21:27 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: yeah | Oct 10 21:27 |
| schestowitz | same here, I know some Brits who went there to work, didn't like it | Oct 10 21:27 |
| schestowitz | people jump off buildings there | Oct 10 21:27 |
| schestowitz | and citizens are PAID by the government not to leave the nation | Oct 10 21:27 |
| schestowitz | "The country is highly urbanised with very little primary rainforest remaining, although more land is being created for development through land reclamation." | Oct 10 21:28 |
| schestowitz | "Part of various local empires since being inhabited in the 2nd century AD, Singapore hosted a trading post of the East India Company in 1819 with permission from the Sultanate of Johor. The British obtained sovereignty over the island in 1824 and Singapore became one of the British Straits Settlements in 1826." | Oct 10 21:29 |
| schestowitz | "Singapore is the world's fourth leading financial centre, and its port is one of the five busiest ports in the world. The economy depends heavily on exports and refining imported goods, especially in manufacturing, which constituted 26% of Singapore's GDP in 2005." | Oct 10 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Similar regime to the UK | Oct 10 21:31 |
| schestowitz | "Singapore is a unitary multiparty parliamentary republic with a Westminster system of unicameral parliamentary government. The People's Action Party has won every election since self-government in 1959, and governs on the basis of a strong state and prioritising collective welfare over individual rights such as freedom of speech." | Oct 10 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like the UK to me.. | Oct 10 21:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | People's Action Party has won every election since self-government in 1959 ........ hm. | Oct 10 21:31 |
| schestowitz | In terms of purchasing power parity, Singapore has the third highest per capita income in the world. | Oct 10 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Driving on the left, still, like other colonies | Oct 10 21:33 |
| schestowitz | Only half the population was born there. Sounds like Birmingham... | Oct 10 21:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | :<> | Oct 10 21:40 |
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| *punrye is now known as FurnaceBoy | Oct 10 22:01 | |
| MinceR | FurnaceBoy: still not as bad as budapest | Oct 10 22:02 |
| schestowitz | that's an absurd!(istian) | Oct 10 23:08 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I'm currently checking about relocation there | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | seems quite future-proof a move | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | my mom's friend left Zurich to go work in .sg and never looked back, he loves it | Oct 10 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | heh | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | my dad's friend also, he worked in USB | Oct 10 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | can't imagine that | Oct 10 23:09 |
| schestowitz | UBS | Oct 10 23:09 |
| FurnaceBoy | i'd love to live in Zürich. | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I hear bad things | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | a friend of mine has two mates there | Oct 10 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | not likely to happen though | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | one in geneva and loves it | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | the other in zurich and can't wait to leave | Oct 10 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | we're moving to South America in medium term | Oct 10 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | (not the tropical parts) | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I have been in zurich about 6 times, it's usually grey there when I go | Oct 10 23:10 |
| FurnaceBoy | i've been a couple of times. i still like it. | Oct 10 23:10 |
| schestowitz | moving permanently? | Oct 10 23:11 |
| FurnaceBoy | ya | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | !google spain youth move to south america jobs | Oct 10 23:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Spain sees exodus as crisis deepens - FT.com | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f6042f74-f5b1-11e0-be8c-00144feab49a.html | Oct 10 23:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Spain's lost generation: youth unemployment surges above 50 per ... | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/9044897/Spains-lost-generation-youth-unemployment-surges-above-50-per-cent.html | Oct 10 23:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - The Spanish brain-drain | Presseurop (English) | http://www.presseurop.eu/en/content/article/739811-spanish-brain-drain | Oct 10 23:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Introduction - Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International ... | http://wws.princeton.edu/news/AnnalsMigrantYouthStory/AdseraTienda-ANNALS-Introduction-Final-Feb9-Corrected.pdf | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I know some spaiards who fled to the UK for jobs. I helped one... | Oct 10 23:11 |
| schestowitz | just to think that Spain used to be a huge international empire... not escaping to its colonies | Oct 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | *now | Oct 10 23:12 |
| FurnaceBoy | not a spanish colony :) | Oct 10 23:12 |
| schestowitz | wasn'\t brasil at some stage dominated by spain rather than portugal? | Oct 10 23:13 |
| FurnaceBoy | probably | Oct 10 23:14 |
| FurnaceBoy | i forget | Oct 10 23:14 |
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