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schestowitzinterestuing history behind the militarisation http://www.mongabay.com/history/indonesia/indonesia-singapore_and_malaysia.htmlOct 16 00:36
TechrightsSocialTitle: Indonesia-Singapore and Malaysia .::. Size~: 70.93 KBOct 16 00:36
schestowitzhttp://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2777.htmOct 16 00:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Malaysia .::. Size~: 100.35 KBOct 16 00:37
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_SingaporeOct 16 00:38
TechrightsSocialTitle: History of Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 226.98 KBOct 16 00:38
schestowitz"Facing severe unemployment and a housing crisis, Singapore embarked on a modernisation programme that focused on establishing a manufacturing industry, developing large public housing estates and investing heavily on public education. Since independence, Singapore's economy has grown by an average of nine percent each year. By the 1990s, the country had become one of the world's most prosperous nations, with a highly Oct 16 00:40
schestowitzdeveloped free market economy, strong international trading links, and the highest per capita gross domestic product in Asia outside of Japan."Oct 16 00:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/257959215769989120Oct 16 00:43
TechrightsSocial@ggreenwald: What does "under Israeli pressure" mean? Did they threaten not to accept billions more in aid?  http://t.co/j7AwKYrGOct 16 00:43
TechrightsSocial-> Title: US drops Gaza scholarships after Israel travel ban .::. Size~: 49.94 KBOct 16 00:43
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sook_Ching_massacreOct 16 00:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Sook Ching massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 76.34 KBOct 16 00:47
schestowitz"Under Lieutenant-Colonel Oishi's command were 200 regular Kempeitai officers and another 1000 auxiliaries who were mostly young and rough peasant soldiers. Singapore was divided into sectors with each sector under the control of an officer. The Japanese set up designated "screening centers" all over Singapore to gather and "screen" all Chinese males between the ages of 18 and 50.[6][7] Those who were thought to be "anti-Oct 16 00:50
schestowitzJapanese" would be eliminated. Sometimes, women and children were also sent for inspection as well."Oct 16 00:50
schestowitzAbd people still wonder why privacy is importanytOct 16 00:50
schestowitz"The inspection methods were indiscriminate and non-standardised. Sometimes, hooded informants identified suspected anti-Japanese Chinese; other times, Japanese officers singled out “suspicious” characters at their whim and fancy. Those who survived the inspection walked with “examined” stamped on their faces, arms or clothing; others were issued a certificate. The unfortunate ones were taken to remote places like Oct 16 00:51
schestowitzChangi and Punggol, and unceremoniously killed in batches."Oct 16 00:51
schestowitz"The figures of the death toll vary. Official Japanese statistics show fewer than 5000 while the Singaporean Chinese community claims the numbers to be around 100,000. Lee Kuan Yew, the founding Prime Minister who ruled Singapore from 1959 to 1990, said in a Discovery Channel programme that the estimated death toll was, "Somewhere between 50,000 to 100,000 young men, Chinese"."Oct 16 00:54
schestowitz"But they also showed a meanness and viciousness towards their enemies equal to the Huns'. Genghis Khan and his hordes could not have been more merciless. I have no doubts about whether the two atom bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary. Without them, hundreds of thousands of civilians in Malaya and Singapore, and millions in Japan itself, would have perished."Oct 16 00:55
schestowitz"Kawamura and Oishi received the death penalty while the other five received life sentences, though Nishimura was later executed following convicting for his role in the Parit Sulong massacre by an Australian military court. The court accepted the defense statement of "just following orders" by those put on trial."Oct 16 00:56
qu1j0t3and those who gave the orders?Oct 16 00:57
schestowitz"executedOct 16 01:01
schestowitzparagraph earlierOct 16 01:01
schestowitzit's interesting because people keep telling me the Japanese were not much better than the NazisOct 16 01:01
schestowitzThe horror stories are scarcely told in the WestOct 16 01:01
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jpetrise/statuses/257917361955418112Oct 16 01:24
TechrightsSocial@jpetrise: #Linux related link for those of you who are interested in Open source http://t.co/r9oR78zhOct 16 01:24
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Links 15/10/2012: New Btrfs Features In Linux 3.7, New E17 Snapshot | Techrights .::. Size~: 119.48 KBOct 16 01:24
schestowitzqu1j0t3: Oh, I see context now http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/statuses/257849011036372992Oct 16 01:26
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: More information on #GatesFoundation activity http://t.co/JmwD4JxT @Omar_S_Hafez @schestowitzOct 16 01:26
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Gates Foundation Info    http://dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=3781  http: - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 16.06 KBOct 16 01:26
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/PatentTrolls/statuses/257848147089440771Oct 16 01:26
TechrightsSocial@PatentTrolls: .@jwildeboer @schestowitz great interview with Cheryl Milone from Article One Partners on Patets and #PatentTrolls http://t.co/FM6rYT6MOct 16 01:26
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qu1j0t3Americans in Iraq were not much better than the Nazis either. And drone attacks? Oct 16 02:52
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97363684Oct 16 08:29
TechrightsSocial@Răzvan Sandu (rsandu)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Oct-12 07:19:15 UTC - Identi.ca: @glynnmoody @schestowitz you will WANT to see this (on Diaspora* )  :-)  http://ur1.ca/ajtw7Oct 16 08:29
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schestowitzhttp://rdwolff.com/content/irony-and-absurdity-nobel-prize-economics-blogOct 16 08:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: Irony and Absurdity: the Nobel Prize in Economics (Blog) | Professor Richard D. Wolff .::. Size~: 23.9 KBOct 16 08:43
schestowitzqu1j0t3: it''s still a bit differentOct 16 08:43
schestowitztwo issues with that: 1) they kill dissenters 2) there is collateral damage (and I guess hiding it does not help PR)Oct 16 08:44
schestowitzAlso, see http://0.asset.soup.io/asset/3814/5840_9b07.jpegOct 16 09:01
schestowitzJust found it... Oct 16 09:01
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeOct 16 09:01
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97365155Oct 16 10:21
TechrightsSocial@Valentin Villenave (vvillenave)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Oct-12 09:04:52 UTC - Identi.ca: RD @schestowitz Someone decided that the most used software licence is "dead" http://ur1.ca/aju89 troll headline? #gplOct 16 10:21
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97365246Oct 16 10:21
TechrightsSocial-> Title: The GPL is dead. Long live the GPLs .::. Size~: 35.91 KBOct 16 10:21
TechrightsSocial@Michał Masłowski (mtjm)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Oct-12 09:12:36 UTC - Identi.ca: great, it's difficult to comply with it without respecting user's freedom; companies dislike "or later" enough to not see it?Oct 16 10:21
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schestowitzI spent ten hours researching Singapore. I learned the streets, the map, the demography, job, wages, neighbouring countries, etc. I also spoke to friends who know the places. Jordan, for example, was there twice. He said he loved it as a tourist but would not want to live there. I can see why. In 2009 I wondered if asia can be a better place to live. I do not like Japan and I am sceptical of S Korea, so HK and Singapore only Oct 16 20:10
schestowitzseemed tempting. They have strong economies. Steve and Chris are against HK, Steve came from there. I am starting to reach the point where I learned enough online, with video, text and images, so I no longer need to feed my curiousity. The UK is a better place to be. I can now say it based on harrd evidence.Oct 16 20:10
qu1j0t3research can only go so far.Oct 16 20:16
qu1j0t3no, you can't ;)Oct 16 20:16
qu1j0t3you have to LIVE in a place.Oct 16 20:16
qu1j0t3it would be a tragically false conclusion to decide "UK is the best" without leaving your chair.Oct 16 20:16
qu1j0t3that's what Americans do.Oct 16 20:16
qu1j0t3i've spent time in 14 countries, lived in 3 continentsOct 16 20:17
qu1j0t3and i can tell you absolutely you don't know squat until you GO THEREOct 16 20:17
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97372891 http://identi.ca/notice/97373029Oct 16 20:19
TechrightsSocial@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Oct-12 18:17:15 UTC - Identi.ca: #Salesforce to hire #PostgreSQL experts http://ur1.ca/ajwhp possibly a defensive move now that" #Oracle os making… forays into [the] #cloud"Oct 16 20:19
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Salesforce Hires to Go Open Source  - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 42.92 KBOct 16 20:19
TechrightsSocial@Mike Linksvayer (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Oct-12 18:24:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz "x dead; long live ~x" is an oft used headline trope; why assume troll? I read charitably as plea akin to #whichcclicenseOct 16 20:19
schestowitz[20:16] <qu1j0t3> it would be a tragically false conclusion to decide "UK is the best" without leaving your chair.Oct 16 20:19
schestowitzdidn't say it was bestOct 16 20:19
schestowitzjust compared it to .sg, former GB colonyOct 16 20:20
qu1j0t3you need to go there.Oct 16 20:23
qu1j0t3"The UK is a better place to be."Oct 16 20:23
qu1j0t3it probably is, than HK and SG, in sum, but you still should visit.Oct 16 20:23
qu1j0t3HK and SG and Dubai hold absolutely zero appeal to me either (this is chair research) :)Oct 16 20:23
qu1j0t3but there's nothing at stake either :)Oct 16 20:24
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schestowitzRe: No conflict of Interest :)Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz"Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz> Reminds me the revolving door between Homeland security and Microsoft,Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz> and the BBC and ...Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz> -------Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz> Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz> Michael Taylor of MonsantoOct 16 21:06
schestowitz> Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz> Michael Taylor Deputy Commissioner, Food and Drug AdministrationOct 16 21:06
schestowitz> Oct 16 21:06
schestowitz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._TaylorOct 16 21:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: Michael R. Taylor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 47.12 KBOct 16 21:06
schestowitz"Oct 16 21:06
schestowitzqu1j0t3: thanks, I will go and see it next month, I hope...Oct 16 21:06
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/07/07/gmo-and-msbbc/ http://techrights.org/2010/07/07/gmo-and-msbbc/Oct 16 21:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: Jonathan D. G. Jones Promotes Monopoly on Food, BBC Gives Him a Platform | Techrights .::. Size~: 112.7 KBOct 16 21:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: Jonathan D. G. Jones Promotes Monopoly on Food, BBC Gives Him a Platform | Techrights .::. Size~: 112.63 KBOct 16 21:07
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2010/07/21/conflict-of-interests-jonathan-jones/Oct 16 21:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: Jonathan Jones Acknowledges He is in Monsanto’s Pocket (Updatedx2) | Techrights .::. Size~: 110.65 KBOct 16 21:07
schestowitzWhat's the BBC-Michael Taylor article?Oct 16 21:08
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i think you'll be surprised, either pleasantly or not. :)Oct 16 21:09
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