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schestowitz> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz>>> Reminds me the revolving door between Homeland security and Microsoft, and the BBC and ...Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz>> What's the BBC-Michael Taylor article?Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> I only mentioned Monsanto as an example: eg, Monsanto 'donates` a lotOct 17 00:02
schestowitz> of money to Washington - Washington gives a big paying non-job toOct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Michael Taylor. Of course it's never totally spelt out that way.Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> It works the other-way-round too, government minister gives contractOct 17 00:02
schestowitz> to company, company they hires on Minister after he leaves office, asOct 17 00:02
schestowitz> a 'consultant' ...Oct 17 00:02
schestowitzBanks do that a lot with the SEC et al. It's called revolving doors, a form of bribe that's common and also a loophole -- they don't break the law.Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> See here where, having successfully kept Open Source off the iPlayer,Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Highfield gets hired on at Microsoft. I'm not picking on him, he's notOct 17 00:02
schestowitz> the only one.Oct 17 00:02
schestowitzHighfield is in Intel now, IIRC.Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> "In November, 2007 he courted controversy by launching the iPlayerOct 17 00:02
schestowitz> only on the Windows platform"Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:02
schestowitz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_HighfieldOct 17 00:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ashley Highfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 50.03 KBOct 17 00:02
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:03
schestowitz> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/28/ashley_highfield_quits_microsoft/Oct 17 00:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ashley Highfield quits Microsoft, becomes Scotsman boss • The Register .::. Size~: 29.5 KBOct 17 00:03
schestowitz> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/10/highfield_quits_kangaroo/Oct 17 00:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: Highfield joins Microsoft after just four months at Project Kangaroo • The Register .::. Size~: 28.51 KBOct 17 00:03
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:03
schestowitz> iPlayer originally developed its own codec 'Dirac`, but that was laterOct 17 00:03
schestowitz> on dropped in favor of a more commercially and DRMed one ...Oct 17 00:03
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:03
schestowitz> http://www.ebu.ch/fr/technical/trev/trev_2008-Q4_iPlayer.pdfOct 17 00:03
schestowitzHeh.Oct 17 00:03
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeOct 17 00:03
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schestowitz>> Highfield is in Intel now, IIRC.Oct 17 00:57
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:57
schestowitz> And Intel helped Microsoft on UEFI :)Oct 17 00:57
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:57
schestowitz> And Windows 8 requires FOUR primary partitions (I think *), so no dualOct 17 00:57
schestowitz> boot there ..Oct 17 00:57
schestowitz> Oct 17 00:57
schestowitz> * I think I read that somewhere, can't remember exactly ...Oct 17 00:57
qu1j0t3lulz that was clever of themOct 17 01:14
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/258349672136048641Oct 17 01:42
TechrightsSocial@ggreenwald: The MSNBC audience was like: "wait, we're killing innocent people with drones? How come nobody told me?"Oct 17 01:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/nickgillespie/status/258387737298743297Oct 17 05:07
TechrightsSocial@nickgillespie: Obama is full of it on immigration. He deported his millionth immigrant in Sept. 2011 (Bush managed 1.5M in 8 years) http://t.co/scQfNCa1Oct 17 05:07
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Obama Continues Leftist Agenda by Deporting Millionth Illegal Immigrant - Hit & Run : Reason.com .::. Size~: 233.69 KBOct 17 05:07
MinceRhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc077uFvdc1qfujjeo1_500.jpgOct 17 07:58
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeOct 17 07:58
schestowitzSunny today http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643123Oct 17 08:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: BBC Weather : Manchester .::. Size~: 148.59 KBOct 17 08:56
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/statuses/258378266623213568Oct 17 08:57
TechrightsSocial@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz why google works so hard at extorting people's cell phone numbersOct 17 08:57
schestowitzcellphons are tracking devices that can also make phonecalls and sometimes run apps. But to Google it's a side-effectOct 17 08:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/97378491Oct 17 09:00
TechrightsSocial@Coyo Stormbringer (coyo)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Oct-12 01:29:43 UTC - Identi.ca: yo dawg, i hurd you like names on your addresses, so we put wiretaps on your wiretaps, so we can tap while you fap.Oct 17 09:00
schestowitzhttp://rdwolff.com/content/till-debt-do-us-partOct 17 09:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Till Debt Do Us Part | Professor Richard D. Wolff .::. Size~: 23.84 KBOct 17 09:04
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: cheers: http://t.co/gnehxhYFOct 17 14:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: New Links About Bill Gates Lobbying | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.66 KBOct 17 14:58
schestowitzyoursOct 17 14:58
qu1j0t3did you check every link? they're a couple of months oldOct 17 14:58
qu1j0t3i guess you did. cool. :)Oct 17 14:59
schestowitzyeah, I didOct 17 15:11
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/sluggahjells/status/258529196836540416Oct 17 15:12
TechrightsSocial@sluggahjells: Tom Friedman: "Obama understood that he's a man that had to reapply for his job." Because Tom Friedman never has to re-apply for his job.Oct 17 15:12
qu1j0t3wow, Tom Friedman is still around.Oct 17 15:12
schestowitzhe was on Charlie Rose the other dayOct 17 15:16
schestowitzI think I noticed that in my subscription in youtubeOct 17 15:17
schestowitzI'm sub'\d to charlierose, no idea why I had done that..Oct 17 15:17
schestowitzFriedman is not a journalistOct 17 15:17
schestowitzhe is a politicianOct 17 15:17
schestowitzidealogistOct 17 15:17
schestowitzauthor whose goal is to sell bookOct 17 15:17
schestowitzit's like GLenn BeckOct 17 15:17
schestowitzbut the other wingOct 17 15:17
qu1j0t3rightOct 17 15:26
qu1j0t3a GoebbelsOct 17 15:26
schestowitzno, he was just horribleOct 17 15:59
qu1j0t3hehOct 17 16:00
qu1j0t3a bit worse than thatOct 17 16:01
qu1j0t3he's an enlisted propagandistOct 17 16:01
schestowitzI don't think he was worst than thatOct 17 16:02
schestowitzGoebbels had something to do with Final Solution, not sure it can be attributed only to himOct 17 16:02
qu1j0t3sure he didOct 17 16:03
qu1j0t3he's also the prototypical 20th C political propagandistOct 17 16:03
schestowitzhe visited the US president, IIRC, they likes each otherOct 17 16:05
qu1j0t3of course.Oct 17 16:06
qu1j0t3don't you get they're all on the same team?Oct 17 16:06
qu1j0t3have you forgotten the NYT circa 2002/2003?Oct 17 16:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97388348 http://identi.ca/notice/97387734Oct 17 16:13
TechrightsSocial@mray's status on Wednesday, 17-Oct-12 14:29:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz oh my… as if the logo wasn't bad enough in itself. m(Oct 17 16:13
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Oct-12 13:51:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Gitmo that's a good name for a git repo.Oct 17 16:13
MinceR:)Oct 17 16:13
schestowitzqu1j0t3: that's differentOct 17 16:13
qu1j0t3different?Oct 17 16:14
qu1j0t3Friedman was an active player.Oct 17 16:14
qu1j0t3i keep reminding you of this.Oct 17 16:14
qu1j0t3what is "different"? he's doing the same job NOW.Oct 17 16:14
qu1j0t3him and thousands of others.Oct 17 16:14
qu1j0t3checked in with @jstrevino lately?Oct 17 16:14
schestowitzwho's that?Oct 17 16:44
qu1j0t3go lookOct 17 16:44
qu1j0t3well known person, btwOct 17 16:44
schestowitztwitter.com/jstrevinoOct 17 16:46
schestowitz"82,707 TWEETS"Oct 17 16:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jstrevino/status/258549909236633602Oct 17 16:48
TechrightsSocial@jstrevino: Bingo. RT @MZHemingway: everything that's wrong w/ @jayrosen_nyu in one tweet! Wrong on facts, blindly biased toward libs, arrogant, etc...Oct 17 16:48
qu1j0t3now read 82,000 moreOct 17 16:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jstrevino/status/258545840950484993Oct 17 16:49
TechrightsSocial@jstrevino: In the history of blockades, this one is pretty benign: http://t.co/KEb7ZtlROct 17 16:49
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Israel Gaza blockade study calculated Palestinians' calories | Egypt Independent .::. Size~: 67.36 KBOct 17 16:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jstrevino/status/258543019156971520Oct 17 16:50
TechrightsSocial@jstrevino: And let's be honest: what Romney did in bringing women into MA governance would be praised to the heavens if the Lightworker had done it.Oct 17 16:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jstrevino/status/258423662221348864Oct 17 16:51
TechrightsSocial@jstrevino: I close the evening with this: for the umpteenth time, please remember that the media is just another interest group. Good night.Oct 17 16:51
qu1j0t3LOLOct 17 17:00
qu1j0t3except it's not, really. it's part of an interest group.Oct 17 17:00
schestowitzseveralOct 17 18:00
schestowitzthey overlapOct 17 18:00
schestowitzthink of it as a rich guys' clubOct 17 18:00
schestowitzthey have many of their own interests, but they collaborate on someOct 17 18:00
qu1j0t3the ones that are most dangerousOct 17 18:02
schestowitzHi TobyOct 17 18:12
schestowitzI've been thinking further about this whole .SG thing. The more I look at StreetView, the more my mental perception of the place changes for the worse. I might visit soon, but I might not. Based on what I can tell, their universities are well developed for particular fields, but not for others. Some of them look like buildings back from the 80s and all...Oct 17 18:12
schestowitzI heard in .SG-hostile pages that a culture based around work (long hours, lots of discipilne) leave not much for personal life. The homes are generally small, so it seems to make sense. I guess the costs of staying there will help determine whether I go see the place in my own eyes or not...Oct 17 18:13
schestowitzI guess I'm not so excited about visiting .SG anymoreOct 17 18:14
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97390784Oct 17 18:14
TechrightsSocial@agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 17-Oct-12 17:09:32 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hahahahaha, and, by what I've read, americans would be better with Torquemada than with Romney.Oct 17 18:14
qu1j0t3neither are any good.Oct 17 18:16
qu1j0t3"Some of them look like buildings back from the 80s and all..."Oct 17 18:16
qu1j0t3I prefer universities with buildings from the 1880s, myself.Oct 17 18:16
qu1j0t3that's one of the nice things about Toronto (and Melbourne)Oct 17 18:17
qu1j0t3some of the most magnificent architecture has been preserved by the universitiesOct 17 18:17
qu1j0t3(not all. I've seen some massive development crimes too)Oct 17 18:17
qu1j0t3schestowitz: well there's no downside to |visiting|Oct 17 18:18
*qu1j0t3 goes for lunchOct 17 18:20
schestowitz[18:16] <qu1j0t3> I prefer universities with buildings from the 1880s, myself.Oct 17 18:20
schestowitzThe inside is usually lackingOct 17 18:20
schestowitzequipment-wiseOct 17 18:20
schestowitzalso, it's an indication of the funding they receiveOct 17 18:21
schestowitzif they have good puiblication and innovation record, then more money flows their ways, from various sourcesOct 17 18:21
schestowitzthe medical schools in .SG seem to be well fundedOct 17 18:21
schestowitzpeople are flown from abroad to get treated thereOct 17 18:21
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qu1j0t3that's good for you, surelyOct 17 18:46
qu1j0t3schestowitz: wow, not unexpected, but ... http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/10/17/0325236/researcher-reverse-engineers-pacemaker-transmitter-to-deliver-deadly-shocksOct 17 18:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: Researcher Reverse-Engineers Pacemaker Transmitter To Deliver Deadly Shocks - Slashdot .::. Size~: 265.38 KBOct 17 18:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/LeftWingCracker/status/258619927160823808Oct 17 18:53
TechrightsSocial@LeftWingCracker: Now Koch Industries Threatening Employees If Obama Wins Re-Election http://t.co/cjbPYi6r via @AddInfoOrgOct 17 18:53
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: dentedOct 17 20:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2023637Oct 17 20:34
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Demand for white-box tablets keeps growing despite keen competition http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20121015PD207.html #android very strong there. #linuxOct 17 20:34
schestowitz"Yep, and I just bought one - an ICOO D50. It's brilliant, particularly as it cost less than £50. It runs Android 4.0.4, and has a 17cm display, 512MB RAM and 4GB flash storage, and the CPU runs at 1GHz. I bought if for my 2-year old, mostly for youtube videos of charlie and lola, but my other kids can't keep their hands off it!"Oct 17 20:34
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Demand for white-box tablets keeps growing despite keen competition .::. Size~: 57.59 KBOct 17 20:34
schestowitzLss than 50 quid? Clearance?Oct 17 20:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2024610Oct 17 20:56
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #posterOct 17 20:56
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schestowitz"I refuse to do anything under "Che Guevara", "Hitler", and other "influential" face. Revolution does not have a face. It needs something more than just iconified face of Che, or anyone else. This is manipulation."Oct 17 20:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2024611Oct 17 20:57
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Oct 17 20:57
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schestowitz"Bulls are victims in corrida del torros. The real enemy would be an angry mob, which is killing this animal. Sorry, but I refuse to accept such practices no matter where they happen, in what culture and place on earth and universe."Oct 17 20:57
schestowitzThis is the #wallstreet bullOct 17 20:57
schestowitz"Good one @marc, i think the same thing :)"Oct 17 20:57
schestowitz"Hey Marc ever heard of symbolism? Ever seen the large metal bull statue on Wall Street? Don't take your self so seriously it's a drag."Oct 17 20:58
schestowitz"I almost never take myself seriously. That said, encouraging people to kill an innocent animal isn't exactly the kind of symbolism I'd want attached to OWS, although the police are trying very hard to do it for us."Oct 17 20:58
schestowitz"@The_Artist - symbols takes their meaning from reality, not the opposite ... they relate to something real."Oct 17 20:58
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