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schestowitzhttp://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2012/10/23/bill-and-melinda-gates-contribute.htmlOct 24 02:16
schestowitzlaugh or cry? http://www.forbes.com/sites/financialfinesse/2012/09/20/five-ways-to-be-charitable-even-if-you-arent-bill-gates/Oct 24 02:26
schestowitzOne heck of a new plutocrats' shill there ijn FORBES http://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2012/09/19/untying-the-philanthropic-knot-of-gates-and-buffett-giving/ Oct 24 02:28
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2012/09/20/philanthropy-by-the-numbers-education/Oct 24 02:28
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2042929Oct 24 02:36
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rowan Atkinson: we must be allowed to insult each other  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9616750/Rowan-Atkinson-we-must-be-allowed-to-insult-each-other.html why of course! That's how bad ideas are killed.Oct 24 02:36
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schestowitz"i think his form of humor is healthy, it allows us to communicate our differences without leading to conflict :) if everybody has a sense of humor that is :)"Oct 24 02:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2042881Oct 24 02:36
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Abolish software patents,' says Linus Torvalds http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2219375/-abolish-software-patents-says-linus-torvalds #torvalds #linux #swpatsOct 24 02:36
schestowitzTorvalds is probably right, but he knows they aren't going to do that.Oct 24 02:36
schestowitzI think it is more of a way of supporting the open source way of doing things.Oct 24 02:36
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schestowitzA "good" software licence states clearly in a page or two that you have the right to do things like improve the software, instead you get 200 pages of things you can not do. :) or something like that... :)Oct 24 02:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/His__Dudeness/status/260366071935139840Oct 24 02:45
TechrightsSocial@His__Dudeness: hisdudeness: RT @schestowitz The best press money can buy http://t.co/P0XFjj4z #plutocracy #spin #propaganda http://t.co/XiMQC19dOct 24 02:45
TechrightsSocial-> Title: PBS Receives $500,000 Gates Foundation Grant  |  TVNewsCheck.com .::. Size~: 51.13 KBOct 24 02:45
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schestowitzhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/23/photographer-of-auschwitz-experiments-dies-aged-95/Oct 24 03:11
TechrightsSocialTitle: Photographer of Auschwitz experiments dies aged 95 | The Raw Story .::. Size~: 73.85 KBOct 24 03:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2042974Oct 24 03:30
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Convicted monopoly abuser puts his name on a "Civil Rights Museum". Best #whitewash money can buy. http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/sep/13/gates-foundation-gives-civil-rights-museum-in/?CID=happeningnowOct 24 03:30
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Gates Foundation gives Civil Rights Museum in Memphis $550,000   » The Commercial Appeal .::. Size~: 125.87 KBOct 24 03:31
schestowitz"I wonder how much of this "donation" is retail priced software."Oct 24 03:31
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: Zuckerberg says he was going to work for an abusive monopolist and patent racketeer/aggressor before he created his own http://venturebeat.com/2012/10/20/zuck-startup-school/Oct 24 12:39
TechrightsSocialTitle: Zuckerberg admits: If I wasn’t the CEO of Facebook, I’d be at Microsoft  | VentureBeat .::. Size~: 119.55 KBOct 24 12:39
schestowitzI just bought more than 1 million …Facebook data entries. OMG! http://talkweb.eu/openweb/1819 Facebook is all about YOU... their PRODUCT, not clientOct 24 12:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: I just bought more than 1 million …Facebook data entries. OMG! | I Talk Web :@ .::. Size~: 43.7 KBOct 24 12:41
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: R'tweetedOct 24 14:37
schestowitzWhy, this is some people that use credit cards?https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2042582Oct 24 14:40
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schestowitz"That is really cool! :)"Oct 24 14:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: did you see "Inside Job"?Oct 24 14:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2043791Oct 24 14:50
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schestowitz"Cats don't like the fuzz either ;)"Oct 24 14:50
schestowitzqu1j0t3: noOct 24 14:51
schestowitzqu1j0t3:  http://techrights.org/2012/10/24/zuckerberg-and-gates/ Facebook Has Deep Microsoft Ties, Zuckerberg Almost Worked at MicrosoftOct 24 14:51
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: you should, i think.Oct 24 14:51
schestowitz> Take a look at Bain.and.Company.zip. It's interesting to see thatOct 24 14:51
schestowitz> their entire IT 'innovation' conists of a bog-standard Windows 2000Oct 24 14:51
schestowitz> network and their consultancy reports stored on PowerPoint docs. A VaxOct 24 14:51
schestowitz> in the background doing the accounts. Plus a pile of scanned companyOct 24 14:51
schestowitz> reports on CDs ...Oct 24 14:51
schestowitz> Oct 24 14:51
schestowitz> This link wile expire in 20 minutes, I have to go now, just in caseOct 24 14:51
schestowitz> they send the FEDs after me o:Oct 24 14:51
schestowitz> Oct 24 14:51
schestowitz> https://www.drivehq.com/file/DFPublishFile.aspx/FileID1184119673/Keyl9hxl74p99sy/Bain.and.Company.zipOct 24 14:51
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oiaohmReally being a person who was considering to join MS does not mean he is friendly to MS.Oct 24 14:56
qu1j0t3we already know he is Gates DNA down to the smallest detail.Oct 24 14:59
qu1j0t3which is the problem.Oct 24 14:59
qu1j0t3he didn't join microsoft because it would have limited his megalomaniaOct 24 15:00
qu1j0t3same reason gates didn't work for ibmOct 24 15:00
qu1j0t3being "friendly to microsoft" is just part of the territory; ethics are out the window (assuming he ever had any - unlikely)Oct 24 15:01
qu1j0t3chi dorme con cane si sveglia colle pulciOct 24 15:01
oiaohmqu1j0t3: currently Facebook has funding a lot of FOSS projects.Oct 24 15:04
oiaohmqu1j0t3: so its a little hard to say where facebook is.Oct 24 15:04
oiaohmqu1j0t3:  I would not suspect friendly to either Microsoft or FOSS long term.Oct 24 15:05
MinceRwell, it's not so hard to say where the data you submit to facebook is. :>Oct 24 15:05
qu1j0t3oiaohm: meh, well, benign they ain't.Oct 24 15:05
qu1j0t3oiaohm: nor is ZuckOct 24 15:06
qu1j0t3he's a card carrying plutocrat criminalOct 24 15:06
qu1j0t3just a larval one maybe but rapidly growing more dangerousOct 24 15:06
qu1j0t3has everyone forgotten the Albuquerque mugshot already?Oct 24 15:07
qu1j0t3that alone tells you Gates' future, it's in his smirkOct 24 15:07
oiaohmqu1j0t3: really face book is the best intelgence database ever made.Oct 24 15:20
oiaohmqu1j0t3: so much simpler to track people when they provide you with all the key information todo so.Oct 24 15:20
qu1j0t3of courseOct 24 15:20
MinceRcrowdsourcing!Oct 24 15:20
qu1j0t3yesOct 24 15:20
qu1j0t3and Zuck is wired into itOct 24 15:21
oiaohmI see facebooks evil as different to Microsoft.Oct 24 15:21
qu1j0t3wired into fascism, if we want to be bluntOct 24 15:21
MinceRfascesbookOct 24 15:21
qu1j0t3sure, but neither can be toleratedOct 24 15:21
oiaohmSo far to the point that Zuck might destory microsoft.Oct 24 15:21
qu1j0t3Goldman Sachs' evil is yet another flavourOct 24 15:21
oiaohmJust because it gets in way.Oct 24 15:21
MinceRafaik DFB is allied with m$Oct 24 15:21
qu1j0t3oiaohm: good, that'll save us the trouble; but then Zuck needs to disappearOct 24 15:21
MinceRbìng promotion and all thatOct 24 15:21
oiaohmMinceR: remember Zuck and Bill Gates are the same model.Oct 24 15:21
oiaohmThey have no problem backstabing partners.Oct 24 15:22
MinceR:>Oct 24 15:22
MinceRindeedOct 24 15:22
oiaohmReally how long before Zuck decided to have his own search engine.Oct 24 15:22
oiaohmIts only a matter of time.Oct 24 15:23
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qu1j0t3well let's just watch and do nothingOct 24 15:26
qu1j0t3that's worked great for the past 50 yrsOct 24 15:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you ought to see "Inside Job" if you can get itOct 24 15:27
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i think even you will be shockedOct 24 15:27
qu1j0t3schestowitz: I'm not yet clear why Sony Pictures produced itOct 24 15:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: or howOct 24 15:28
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97517731Oct 24 15:45
schestowitz[15:22] <oiaohm> Really how long before Zuck decided to have his own search engine.Oct 24 15:46
schestowitzhe has BongOct 24 15:46
schestowitzwith the BorgOct 24 15:46
schestowitzyou know, I used my wife's account for a few weeks now... seen so many people accidentally posting private things to everyoneOct 24 15:47
schestowitzthat's what FB is about... serving nosy peopleOct 24 15:47
qu1j0t3:<Oct 24 15:47
qu1j0t3titillationOct 24 15:47
qu1j0t3it's distraction while the plutocrats rifle your pocketsOct 24 15:47
schestowitz5 cards UI wrote, ones she thought she only sent to her cousin and sister, became visible to everyoneOct 24 15:47
qu1j0t3just more bread and circusesOct 24 15:48
schestowitzAnd she's like, oh well, never mindOct 24 15:48
qu1j0t3reality TVOct 24 15:48
qu1j0t3reality FBOct 24 15:48
qu1j0t3soap operaOct 24 15:48
schestowitzSo my parents, siblings etc. see private stuff from me..Oct 24 15:48
schestowitzand her friend, Irene, posting some semi-nude photosOct 24 15:48
schestowitznot nude nudeOct 24 15:48
schestowitzbut something she quickly thereafter removedOct 24 15:49
schestowitznot before I hear something like, "Irene has just posted sexy photos, hiding her naked body with a towelOct 24 15:49
schestowitzit is, like qu1j0t3 says, like a soap opera/reality TVOct 24 15:49
schestowitzI'm glad I stayed out of it all this timeOct 24 15:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2044370Oct 24 15:50
schestowitz"One of the truths of the Universe."Oct 24 15:50
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it substitutes for people paying attention to real problems, like diminishing rights, drones, plutocratic attacks and robberyOct 24 15:51
qu1j0t3schestowitz: and the faux-democracyOct 24 15:51
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: it can amplify null "politics"Oct 24 15:51
qu1j0t3"Pick your flavour of oppression! Blue or Red!"Oct 24 15:51
schestowitzjust had a one hour long convo with my mom and asked why she wouldn't join a good causeOct 24 15:51
schestowitzshe could not prpovide a good reasonOct 24 15:51
schestowitzJust that it's "not for her:"Oct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3LOLOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3my dad hated activism/activistsOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3he was a BritOct 24 15:52
schestowitzshe obsessed over petty things her friends did wrongOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3EXACTLYOct 24 15:52
schestowitzgossip-level stuffOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3now you gettin' itOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3DistractionOct 24 15:52
schestowitzI told her, how about you help me find the Big IssuesOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3doesn't matter howOct 24 15:52
schestowitzpeople feel powerlessOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3yepOct 24 15:52
schestowitzthey're better at laughing and spreading rumours about fellow Little PeopleOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3the Free Market mythOct 24 15:52
qu1j0t3was a big one -- most pppl still believe it, I guessOct 24 15:53
schestowitzBut never to fight the Good FightOct 24 15:53
qu1j0t3"The market is working. Trust the market. Rich people deserve it."Oct 24 15:53
schestowitzno, not quit3eOct 24 15:53
qu1j0t3"White people good and peaceful. Brown people bad."Oct 24 15:53
schestowitzI explained to her the biggest corruption which is public assets like power stattions and natural resources being passed to some friend of politicians to be labeled "public property"Oct 24 15:54
schestowitzbig looting, she acknowledges she understands thisOct 24 15:54
schestowitzbut unwilling or feeling unable to respondOct 24 15:54
qu1j0t3oh gawdOct 24 15:54
qu1j0t3yaOct 24 15:54
qu1j0t3good exampleOct 24 15:55
qu1j0t3selling off public landOct 24 15:55
qu1j0t3!!!!!!!!!!!Oct 24 15:55
qu1j0t3= robberyOct 24 15:55
schestowitzthe context of it was her criticism of the exploited rather than the exploiterOct 24 15:56
qu1j0t3go onOct 24 15:58
schestowitzwell, I told her she misses the Big PictureOct 24 16:00
schestowitzbut I rarely go into political issues with herOct 24 16:00
schestowitzalthough little by little she comes to accept my viewsOct 24 16:00
schestowitzit takes a while to sink inOct 24 16:00
schestowitzafter the conversationsOct 24 16:00
schestowitzit's like getting people off  religion, to use an analogyOct 24 16:01
schestowitzyou don't say some magic argument and then on the spot they go, "you're right. I no longer believe."Oct 24 16:01
abeNd-org1heh, racism in its true form doesnt exist these days, its just something use as a crutch so they can bitch about not wanting to be self reliant or take personal responsibilityOct 24 16:03
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the big picture is too much for a lot of ppl, maybe always will be; why engage with it if you can just use narcotics like TV or FB or HollywoodOct 24 16:06
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the more you dig, the worse it looks; why bother?Oct 24 16:06
qu1j0t3schestowitz: even the simplest most obvious truths are too much, for example that voting is designed not to do what it's advertised to do.Oct 24 16:07
qu1j0t3schestowitz: who would want to tell their kids thaat?Oct 24 16:07
schestowitz[16:03] <abeNd-org1> heh, racism in its true form doesnt exist these days, its just something use as a crutch so they can bitch about not wanting to be self reliant or take personal responsibilityOct 24 16:24
schestowitzsame with religionOct 24 16:24
schestowitztoo much, too fastOct 24 16:24
schestowitzdenying much of what they know, collapsing assumptionOct 24 16:24
schestowitze.g. "if there's no God, there's no Jesus"Oct 24 16:24
schestowitzso for them to realise they have been conned all along is hardOct 24 16:24
schestowitzit has a cancading-down effect on much of what happened in their lives, e.g. "why was I paid so little" and "why did I vote all those years and spent my time boosting the lesser of two evils?"Oct 24 16:25
schestowitzqu1j0t3: yesterday I saw a quote in diasporaOct 24 16:25
schestowitzsomeone who said, it's hard to find smart people who are happyOct 24 16:26
schestowitzit's probably true that ignorance is blissOct 24 16:26
schestowitzthink about it, you have more than one life, the real life and the imaginary one only your clergy tells you existsOct 24 16:26
schestowitzwikileaks is mental terrorismOct 24 16:27
schestowitzit terrorises the public and those in powerOct 24 16:27
schestowitzit makes the pillars of disinformation crumbleOct 24 16:27
abeNd-org1there is so much going on in this world, you can choose to be really smart with your job & happy about it, but remain totally ignorant to the world around you :)Oct 24 16:31
qu1j0t3a lot of people take that routeOct 24 16:35
qu1j0t3but it doesn't seem to be helpingOct 24 16:35
abeNd-org1nopeOct 24 16:37
abeNd-org1but, there really is just too damn much to deal with in life these daysOct 24 16:37
abeNd-org1as far as myself goes, beyond 60+hr work weeks, i volunteer for several rural libraries to help out with IT, as well as even being president of one of the friends groups (book sales/all sorts of other stuff) that i barely have time to rot my brain on scifi shows for a few minutes of entertainment each week much less pay attention to the world stageOct 24 16:38
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/candtalan/statuses/261051361586712576Oct 24 16:40
TechrightsSocial@candtalan: Interesting. I was following Black Duck . . .   http://t.co/EdTvWeu3Oct 24 16:40
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qu1j0t3fair enough... you are doing good thingsOct 24 16:40
qu1j0t3abeNd-org1: you're already making a difference.Oct 24 16:40
qu1j0t3abeNd-org1: but the dominant culture doesn't teach activism.Oct 24 16:40
qu1j0t3it teaches anti-activismOct 24 16:40
qu1j0t3hardly surprising given the vicious self interest that controls itOct 24 16:40
abeNd-org1i will say none of my coworkers are into that, & some even think i am nuts for wasting my time like thatOct 24 16:41
qu1j0t3rightOct 24 16:43
qu1j0t3exactlyOct 24 16:43
qu1j0t3that's what we're up againstOct 24 16:43
qu1j0t3a culture of vicious, almost violent self interestOct 24 16:43
qu1j0t3which is taughtOct 24 16:43
qu1j0t3well, not almost violent. explicitly violent.Oct 24 16:43
qu1j0t3on every levelOct 24 16:43
qu1j0t3abeNd-org1: so they're not much for open source participation ehOct 24 16:44
schestowitz[16:40] <qu1j0t3> it teaches anti-activismOct 24 16:45
schestowitzeven when founding fathers were activistsOct 24 16:45
schestowitzor terroristsOct 24 16:45
qu1j0t3rightOct 24 16:45
qu1j0t3not only thatOct 24 16:45
schestowitzusing force to overthrow what was seen as legit authority at the time, befoe revisionismOct 24 16:45
qu1j0t3but the New Testament itselfOct 24 16:45
qu1j0t3was hereticalOct 24 16:46
schestowitzthe Nazis and Japanese lost the warOct 24 16:46
schestowitzso they never hear their side in subsequent generations, e.g. the nukes being droppedOct 24 16:46
schestowitzthe stories are made consistent by the dominent parties at a given timeOct 24 16:47
schestowitzSee how they hail Columbus, the child rape peddler and mass genociderOct 24 16:47
schestowitzA while day dedicated to him because he lobbied the church and helped spread x-ianity at the timeOct 24 16:47
abeNd-org1qu1j0t3: no, but we are heavy linux users, but none of us including me are really hard core coders & contribute back to GPL or suchOct 24 16:49
abeNd-org1i wish i could code, there are several projects i wish i could contribute to, but no possible way id have the time to learn to codeOct 24 16:57
MinceR(animated) http://imgur.com/J8ackOct 24 17:00
TechrightsSocialTitle: I googled 'Canada GIF' - Imgur .::. Size~: 95.31 KBOct 24 17:00
abeNd-org1well, thank you mincr, that fills my entertainment quota for the week ;)Oct 24 17:02
MinceR:)Oct 24 17:03
qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://www.quora.com/U-S-Politics/What-do-people-think-about-the-UN-stepping-in-to-monitor-US-elections/comment/210602Oct 24 17:46
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schestowitzthey should check pre-electionOct 24 18:05
qu1j0t3what a farceOct 24 18:06
qu1j0t3The US Election, now UN Approved for Real Democratic Flavour™Oct 24 18:06
qu1j0t3( MAY CONTAIN BULLSHIT - DO NOT EAT IF ALLERGIC. )Oct 24 18:07
qu1j0t3( Prepared on the same assembly line as other shit. We cannot guarantee does not contain trace elements of crap. )Oct 24 18:07
abeNd-org1hehOct 24 18:11
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MinceRhow cuteOct 24 19:18
MinceRthe megacorps' election, monitored by the megacorpsOct 24 19:18
MinceR"trust us, we're honest"Oct 24 19:18
qu1j0t3the real trick is to make ppl think the election itself is validOct 24 19:20
qu1j0t3it's beautifully done, like alwaysOct 24 19:20
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the thing is... nobody knows what to doOct 24 21:04
qu1j0t3schestowitz: not me, either.Oct 24 21:05
MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A8JsRx2loisOct 24 22:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: OFFICIAL Preacher Phil Snider gives interesting gay rights speech - YouTube .::. Size~: 159.8 KBOct 24 22:37

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