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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] European Parliament committee calls for transparent safeguards aimed at preserving access to the open Internet https://eff.org/r.1anjOct 06 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Parliament Committee Calls For Creation Without Copyright To Become EU Policy | Techdirt .::. Size~: 87.37 KBOct 06 00:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Open Hardware Summit open to hybrid models (opensource.com) http://ur1.ca/ahkvcOct 06 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Hardware Summit open to hybrid models (opensource.com) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.5 KBOct 06 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All you people who like James Bond films, you are something, have to get some kip !Tzaf.Oct 06 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Stuff it! Its to late to go to bed I'm off down the offy and all tomorrow to regret it :)Oct 06 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Royal York Hotel was built 1928 when it was “the largest hotel in the British Commonwealth.” Situated across Fr http://ur1.ca/ahl64Oct 06 02:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Until I fall unconscious I will today mainly be drinking Perry.Oct 06 02:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] USA networks are giving Chavez a hard time for seeking re-election after 13 years. In the USA it is the same shop but a different display.Oct 06 02:59
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DaemonFCthis is awesome....we even have a PAC that lobbies to get rid of PACsOct 06 03:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Romney's debate success reminds me of something I heard in 1996 both were talking shite but they sounded convincing. I told him so.Oct 06 03:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Francis Maud is introducing legislation that will cut down the small amount of time that employed officials spend on union work.Oct 06 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If Boris Johnson becomes leader of the Tory Party never mind PM how are we supposed to take the system seriously?Oct 06 03:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Put a kid in a residential all male hyper competitive learning environment, then send them to Oxford and you end up with the British Gov't.Oct 06 03:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Jeremy Hunt has said there is a moral case to stop abortions after 12 weeks. I agree.Oct 06 03:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Survey reveals new executive pessimism who used to back Osborne. http://ur1.ca/ahlbg I called in the election Osborne is out of his depth.Oct 06 03:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Business chiefs: We're losing faith in Tories - UK Politics - UK - The Independent .::. Size~: 125.15 KBOct 06 03:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] 50 years of The Beatles. Always preferred The Stones.Oct 06 03:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] There are good reasons why BAE and EADS should not merge. Worries about British defence infrastructure are not one of them.Oct 06 03:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #Samsung Creates New Fyle System F2FS for #Linux Good News For #Android http://is.gd/Or0dt7Oct 06 03:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Workers strike at Foxconn iPhone facility. http://ur1.ca/ahldx !cyberunionsOct 06 03:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Workers strike at Foxconn iPhone facility - IT News from V3.co.uk .::. Size~: 100.51 KBOct 06 03:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The Germans have kept a low profile since 1945 for obvious reasons. I would like the Germans to me a little more assertive in the EU contextOct 06 04:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] To be a little....Oct 06 04:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That is it I am going to read until I fall asleep then wake up with a massive hangover !TzafOct 06 04:50
DaemonFCright...back to Half Life 2 :)Oct 06 05:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz At Birmingham train station, 3 different Linux magazines on on shelt, some with CDs included. #linux #ukOct 06 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've been a fan of the Royal York since the 1976 Star Trek Convention http://identi.ca/attachment/73812609Oct 06 06:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Betrays Open Document Standard, Spreads Proprietary Format http://ur1.ca/ahm6r #ooxml #odf #lockinOct 06 07:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Betrays Open Document Standard, Spreads Proprietary Format | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.25 KBOct 06 07:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Trolls and Parasites http://ur1.ca/ahm7s #swpats #twinpeaks #paulallenOct 06 07:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patent Trolls and Parasites | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.5 KBOct 06 07:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Minecraft’s #Vista8 Disdain Caught by the Media http://ur1.ca/ahm95 not good for the soon-to-be-hyped OS http://ur1.ca/4yz5hOct 06 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Minecraft’s Vista 8 Disdain Caught by the Media | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.5 KBOct 06 07:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vista 8 Reality Log - Techrights .::. Size~: 26.7 KBOct 06 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SCO Has Less Than $100,000 Left http://ur1.ca/ahmak #sco #unix #novellOct 06 08:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SCO Has Less Than $100,000 Left | Techrights .::. Size~: 81.39 KBOct 06 08:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 121005 - http://bit.ly/PZRyKP yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDDOct 06 08:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moody's Microblog Daily Digest: 121005 .::. Size~: 73.88 KBOct 06 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Creepy #Smartphone Malware Re-creates Your Home For Stalkers - http://bit.ly/UJZsZG this is impressive - but worryingOct 06 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creepy Smartphone Malware Re-creates Your Home For Stalkers | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.58 KBOct 06 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Your Smartphone Is More Energy Efficient Than You Think - http://on.mash.to/R59cg8 surprising statsOct 06 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Arduino Uno #opensource prototyping board comes to market - http://bit.ly/TcvH7I more toysOct 06 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Your Smartphone Is More Energy Efficient Than You Think .::. Size~: 115.9 KBOct 06 09:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Arduino Uno open-source prototyping board comes to market - Open Source Engineering with Linux & GNU .::. Size~: 42.31 KBOct 06 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EFSA sidelines #GM maize food safety fears - http://bit.ly/VHVOmi #EFSA is just a joke #doublestandardsOct 06 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pirate Bay accused of collecting users' IP addresses http://goo.gl/KYxtUOct 06 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFSA sidelines GM maize food safety fears  | Friends of the Earth Europe .::. Size~: 19.74 KBOct 06 09:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pirate Bay accused of collecting users' IP addresses | ZDNet .::. Size~: 56.22 KBOct 06 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A Hilariously Honest Version of That Really Cool Microsoft Internet Explorer Commercial http://goo.gl/xFqh2Oct 06 09:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Hilariously Honest Version of That Really Cool Microsoft Internet Explorer Commercial | Gizmodo UK .::. Size~: 54.73 KBOct 06 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Now That We Know The Telcos Exaggerated About The 'Spectrum Crunch'; How About Some More #OpenSpectrum? - http://bit.ly/WxQJN3 yup #commonsOct 06 09:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Now That We Know The Telcos Exaggerated About The 'Spectrum Crunch'; How About Some More Open Spectrum? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 46.26 KBOct 06 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patents Can Drive #Apple and #Microsoft Away From Litigation Tactics http://ur1.ca/ahmlf looking at recent news...Oct 06 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patents Can Drive Apple and Microsoft Away From Litigation Tactics | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.96 KBOct 06 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Congress Unhappy With Patent System, Australia Consults the Public http://ur1.ca/ahmlv #swpats #usptoOct 06 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Congress Unhappy With Patent System, Australia Consults the Public | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.47 KBOct 06 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] High Ranking Member of House Committee on *Science*: Evolution, Big Bang Theory ‘Lies Straight from the Pit of Hell’ - http://gaw.kr/SDnsQtOct 06 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Facebook asks to dismiss $15 billion class action lawsuit for tracking users after they log out http://goo.gl/GeiKG #fbOct 06 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rep. Paul Broun, High Ranking Member of the House Committee on Science: Evolution, Big Bang Theory 'Lies Straight from the Pit of Hell' .::. Size~: 104.23 KBOct 06 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook: Please Dismiss This $15 Billion Class Action Lawsuit .::. Size~: 93.09 KBOct 06 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Police secretly handed FBI evidence on Babar Ahmad while claiming own case collapsing due to lack of evidence - http://ind.pn/R5aub9Oct 06 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Hidden Feature That Means Microsoft Has Already Won The 'Do Not Track' War http://goo.gl/FA362Oct 06 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exclusive: Police secretly handed the FBI evidence on Babar Ahmad while claiming their own case against him was collapsing due to lack of evidence - Crime - UK - The Independent .::. Size~: 125.32 KBOct 06 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hidden Feature That Means Microsoft Has Already Won The 'Do Not Track' War .::. Size~: 36.67 KBOct 06 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenSource #RaspberryPi WebIDE Alpha Released - http://bit.ly/R5aJ5V niceOct 06 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Dark Side Of The Online Struggle Against Plagiarism http://goo.gl/uiH3iOct 06 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Raspberry Pi WebIDE Alpha Released - Slashdot .::. Size~: 83.7 KBOct 06 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Dark Side Of The Online Struggle Against Plagiarism .::. Size~: 37.31 KBOct 06 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Backers of Android successfully fight back against the duopoly (Apple and Microsoft), which in turn uses FRAND smears t http://ur1.ca/ahmlfOct 06 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Backers of Android successfully fight back against the duopoly (Apple and Microsoft), which in turn uses FRAND smears t http://ur1. ...Oct 06 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kickstarting a free/open adult education book - http://bit.ly/QRtyJi great ideaOct 06 09:19
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kickstarting a free/open adult education book - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.42 KBOct 06 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canada and Mexico Formally Join #TPP Negotiations Next Week; IPR Progress Slow in Leesburg - http://bit.ly/SRquNr more fool themOct 06 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: USTR Briefing on TPP:  Canada and Mexico Formally Join Negotiations Next Week; IPR Progress Slow in Leesburg .::. Size~: 33.19 KBOct 06 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Michele Boldrin, Juan Correa Allamand, David K. Levine, and Carmine Ornaghi Suggest Abolishing All Patents http://ur1.ca/ahmwe #swpatsOct 06 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Are Unmanned #Drones the Future of Journalism? - http://on.mash.to/PZVOKr they're the future of most things...Oct 06 09:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scholars Michele Boldrin, Juan Correa Allamand, David K. Levine, and Carmine Ornaghi Suggest Abolishing All Patents | Techrights .::. Size~: 90.21 KBOct 06 09:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1995667Oct 06 09:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## This Amazon Ubuntu shopping lens issue is just getting worse and worse!  [Ubuntu ‘Won’t Fix’ NSFW Content in Amazon Unity Results](http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/ubuntu-wont-fix-nsfw-content-in-amazon-unity-results) By Joey Sneddon, OMG Ubuntu #Linux #Ubuntu #Amazon #omgubuntuOct 06 09:27
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Ubuntu ‘Won’t Fix’ NSFW Content in Amazon Unity Results | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 35.33 KBOct 06 09:27
schestowitz"Well Ubuntu became mainstream. Thats the point where a product or a person becomes shitty."Oct 06 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright As Censorship: Author Removes Blog Post After Being Threatened For Quoting 4 Sentences - http://bit.ly/QRvsK2 ridiculousOct 06 09:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Copyright As Censorship: Author Removes Blog Post After Being Threatened For Quoting 4 Sentences | Techdirt .::. Size~: 144.72 KBOct 06 09:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1996232Oct 06 09:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### The primary reason for #criminalizing #drugs is so that you can have a weapon over poor people. A #facist state will always setup a system of laws so oppressive that you're always violating the law, and then if they want you they can get you. That's an efficient #totalitarian state. You know, this isn't fascist, it's not totalitarian, but they're moving in the same direction. So, I think about a quarterOct 06 09:27
schestowitz"I've always wondered why governments don't spend money developing safe recreational drugs? There may be a good reason, but I just can't see what it would be"Oct 06 09:27
schestowitzMost of the illegal drugs are safer than the legal ones, meaning alchohol and tobacco, to say nothing of the often abused prescription drugs floating around.Oct 06 09:28
schestowitz^QUOTEOct 06 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google-Publisher Deal Ignores Elephant In The Room: Fair Use - http://rww.to/OJdjmn yup, bad news #copyrightOct 06 09:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google-Publisher Deal Ignores Elephant In The Room: Fair Use .::. Size~: 37.35 KBOct 06 09:29
DaemonFCaggh, that was a long gameOct 06 09:31
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DaemonFCChatzilla has seen better daysOct 06 09:42
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520092Oct 06 09:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 520092 – client.plugins should be an object (dictionary) not an array. .::. Size~: 42.33 KBOct 06 09:42
DaemonFC3 years to fix thatOct 06 09:42
schestowitzfirefox is still around?Oct 06 09:42
DaemonFC5 months just to apply the patchOct 06 09:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: huh?Oct 06 09:43
DaemonFCFirefox is doing fineOct 06 09:43
DaemonFCVista 8 might be the end of Seamonkey, thoughOct 06 09:43
iophkWhat can Vista 8 inflict on Seamonkey?Oct 06 09:43
DaemonFCthe Metro desktopOct 06 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here's How Red Hat Is Making You So Much Cash http://ur1.ca/ahn7x #redhat #linuxOct 06 09:44
iophkHow would that not also affect Firefox?Oct 06 09:44
DaemonFCunless people are willing to go to Classic Mode just to run SeamonkeyOct 06 09:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Here's How Red Hat Is Making You So Much Cash - DailyFinance .::. Size~: 55.54 KBOct 06 09:44
DaemonFCFirefox has been ported to MetroOct 06 09:44
iophkWhat a waste of resources but maybe necessary.  It hurts having to feed the thing.Oct 06 09:45
DaemonFCI think most people will install one of those Start Menu add-ons and spend all their time in Classic Mode, anywayOct 06 09:46
DaemonFCMetro is just a Giant Desktop o' SpamOct 06 09:46
DaemonFCit won't be the first time they've had to do damage controlOct 06 09:47
DaemonFCI smell another Windows Mojave campaign comingOct 06 09:47
DaemonFC"You really like it, you're just too stupid to see how much you like itOct 06 09:47
DaemonFCChatzilla is getting just enough attention to make sure it still worksOct 06 09:49
DaemonFCit's written in a really old version of JavascriptOct 06 09:49
DaemonFCit's much larger than it really needs to beOct 06 09:49
MinceRfirefox on metro...Oct 06 09:50
MinceRyou dawg i heard you like rendering engines so we modified your rendering engine to run inside a rendering engine so you can waste resources while you browse the webOct 06 09:50
DaemonFCMinceR: The H Online had pictures of itOct 06 09:50
DaemonFCit works pretty much like "Metro" IEOct 06 09:50
DaemonFCmost users won't see any big difference Oct 06 09:51
DaemonFCalso not sure how they would handle FlashOct 06 09:51
DaemonFCthe NPAPI version won't work outside of the Classic desktopOct 06 09:51
DaemonFCand IE's is built inOct 06 09:52
DaemonFCMaybe Microsoft will help out, and send another cakeOct 06 09:52
DaemonFCWin32 API is only available to applications that are running in the Classic desktopOct 06 09:53
MinceRmaybe they'll hack up somethingOct 06 09:55
MinceRhave Trash render itself to memory and then copy that to metroOct 06 09:55
DaemonFCyou can'tOct 06 09:57
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/opera-12-10-beta-receives-retina-support-and-other-tweaks/Oct 06 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opera 12.10 beta receives Retina support and other tweaks | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 39.76 KBOct 06 10:00
DaemonFC" However, "all high-resolution displays" apparently doesn't extend to cover Windows machines: using Windows 7's 200 percent scaling mode, Opera 12.10 looks just as blurry as the old version (though to be fair Microsoft's own Internet Explorer seems to be the only current browser that renders text properly in this mode)."Oct 06 10:00
DaemonFCI'm shocked... ;)Oct 06 10:01
MinceRmaybe you can run a vnc viewer in metroOct 06 10:02
MinceRand run firefox on a real computerOct 06 10:02
MinceRwith TrashOct 06 10:02
MinceRand use that through the vnc viewerOct 06 10:02
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/your-tax-dollars-at-work-local-cops-now-paid-with-federal-money-to-troll-irc/Oct 06 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Your tax dollars at work: local cops now paid with federal money to troll IRC | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 46.25 KBOct 06 10:02
MinceRWindows® Your Computer, Broken.™Oct 06 10:03
MinceRWindows® -- Your Computer, Broken.™Oct 06 10:03
DaemonFChttp://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Civil_ProtectionOct 06 10:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Civil Protection - Half-Life Wiki .::. Size~: 241.49 KBOct 06 10:03
MinceRturn your expensive PC into a web browser appliance that can't even do web browsing correctly!Oct 06 10:04
MinceRbuy now!Oct 06 10:04
DaemonFClolOct 06 10:05
DaemonFCdoes it include Managed Reversi?Oct 06 10:05
MinceRlolOct 06 10:05
DaemonFCCan people in Nebraska order this?Oct 06 10:05
MinceRnoOct 06 10:05
MinceRbut it will be forced on them anyway!Oct 06 10:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/carlopiana/statuses/254231703730679808 http://twitter.com/carlopiana/statuses/254228284735377408Oct 06 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr@carlopiana: At #if2012 a very lively panel, with radically different views (but were they) on patents and #swpatsOct 06 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr@carlopiana: Seeded some concepts on patents and #swpats at if2012. Something will bloom, hopefullyOct 06 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Best Places To Work Awards include Red Hat http://ur1.ca/ahnfm #redhatOct 06 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Elections [IMG] http://ur1.ca/ahnopOct 06 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple can't copy/do BSD properly http://ur1.ca/ahnpiOct 06 10:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: A new Apple iOS Wi-Fi problem has popped up while others remain unfixed | ZDNet .::. Size~: 86.84 KBOct 06 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GoldmanSachs Ripped by Critics for History of Putting Profits Over Clients http://ur1.ca/ahnvh bound to harm societyOct 06 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Goldman Sachs Ripped by Critics for History of Putting Profits Over Clients .::. Size~: 44.63 KBOct 06 10:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1996329Oct 06 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Oct 06 10:22
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schestowitz"I used to have a job making gourmet, woodfired pizza at a 5 star place next to the main theater in town. Our oven was quite a bit smaller than that one though."Oct 06 10:22
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schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1995369Oct 06 10:24
schestowitz"I'm using it now. It *is* fast... although right now (alpha) is also doesn't show a lot of the text and images here on Diaspora, until you drag select most of the page... I'm sure they'll get it ironed out though. Viva Firefox!Oct 06 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firefox 18 Posts Speed Gains Over Chrome, Mozilla Says  http://www.tomshardware.com/news/browser-firefox-chrome,18011.html #mozilla #firefoxOct 06 10:24
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schestowitzDaemonFC: FF remark was not seriousOct 06 10:24
schestowitzbut FF let many people downOct 06 10:24
schestowitzplugins were its most important advantageOct 06 10:24
schestowitzand new versions broke manyOct 06 10:24
DaemonFCit would be nice if Flash would just dieOct 06 10:25
DaemonFCI was trying to watch some video game walkthroughs  on Youtube todayOct 06 10:25
DaemonFCit gets to about 20 seconds in and restarts the video nowOct 06 10:25
DaemonFCdon't know why...Oct 06 10:26
iophkI know many that use FF because of the plugins.  It keeps them from moving to ChromiumOct 06 10:28
schestowitzhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Oct-04.htmlOct 06 10:28
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schestowitz"The brilliance of the Republican strategy is that they have convinced the world that the real problem facing the US is the debt. Four years of non-stop propaganda on newspapers and TV shows have turned everyone into a "fiscal conservative". The propaganda efforts have succeeded into convincing the world that US economic policy should be subject to the same laws of balancing a household budget (I wont link to this idiocy). "Oct 06 10:28
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MinceRi use ff because it doesn't crash so often :>Oct 06 10:32
iophkChromium runs out of memory frequently but has no outright crashed yet.Oct 06 10:33
iophkOpera I don't use so much.Oct 06 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] In the west coast rail blame game, the principle is clear http://goo.gl/pwU7yOct 06 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] My head really hurts that is all.Oct 06 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @LGBTintergroup: Excellent statement by @StefanFuleEU from @EU_Commission on #Belgrade #Pride ban: http: http://p.ost.im/p/drFaE2Oct 06 10:54
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schestowitzhttp://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2012/10/business-and-government-similarities-and-differences-in-responding-to-the-structural-changes-in-the-economy.htmlOct 06 11:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MEPs must be ready to reject an ACTA-like Canada/EU Trade Agreement http://ur1.ca/aholl #acta #euOct 06 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five great Android tablets you can buy today instead of waiting for the iPad Mini http://ur1.ca/ahopo #linux #androidOct 06 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #Chromebook 2012 Gallery http://ur1.ca/ahoqi #gnu #linuxOct 06 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE at #LinuxCon 2012 North America http://ur1.ca/ahosu #linux #gnuOct 06 11:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thinking Small With #TinyCore #Linux http://ur1.ca/ahowv #gnuOct 06 11:29
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schestowitzhttp://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/10/11779/obama-no-longer-disastrous-kochs-americans-prosperity-returns-issue-advocacyOct 06 11:35
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schestowitzhttp://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/10/11747/obama-campaign-chases-big-checks-while-decrying-citizens-united-and-unlimited-funOct 06 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Over two hundred Belgian political candidates support free software http://ur1.ca/agpwm #be #eu #freeswOct 06 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Windows is failing very badly in mobile computers aside from laptops http://ur1.ca/ahp6dOct 06 11:50
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schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19819791Oct 06 11:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US data show slump in #Apple tablet share http://ur1.ca/ahp88 #linux rules this areaOct 06 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] City of Arles pleased by savings open source enterprise software http://ur1.ca/ahc8t #egovOct 06 11:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Samsung Creates New File System #F2FS For Linux, Good News For Android http://ur1.ca/ahpbs #linux #androidOct 06 12:00
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_GoblinHello all......be back in a few hours (in you're here Roy)Oct 06 12:14
MinceRhayOct 06 12:15
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schestowitzhi :-)Oct 06 12:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Things that make me cranky: making online bookings and online payments.Oct 06 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bobvdv somehow I always mess up a small part of all the number crap and have to start all overOct 06 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fs111 Wow, cool! Sadly I need a train ride ;) Next time I need a flight I'll keep that in mind, thanksOct 06 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 6/10/2012: Linux Increasingly Dominates in Tablet http://ur1.ca/ahq6x #techrightsOct 06 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The US Invaded Iraq Because It Wouldn’t Have Survived Otherwise http://goo.gl/W4TIdOct 06 13:24
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iophkThe article linked to in the link list quotes mainly Didio.  I thought she was gone already.Oct 06 13:24
iophkhttp://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/76288.htmlOct 06 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Webcam + sunshine + time = 3D model of your world - http://bit.ly/RkTLAN more 3D fun with camerasOct 06 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] International calls, internet communication to be monitored in #Pakistan -http://bit.ly/RI0g2W hello encryption (v @bytesforall @asteris)Oct 06 13:32
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schestowitzFunny story is, yesterday on the train, where there's a 4-seater for people to char over a table, some young guy put his magazine on the tablet, paging through Playboy-level nudity, pretending all is fineOct 06 13:35
schestowitziophk:  Jack M. GermainOct 06 13:35
schestowitzdoes she even still track FOSS news at all?Oct 06 13:36
schestowitzJay Lyman - OKOct 06 13:36
iophkApparently.  Jack's article was mostly taken up with quotes from DidioOct 06 13:36
schestowitzThough what it doesn't say is that Jay is one of the writers for ECT/LinuxInsiderOct 06 13:36
schestowitz"Principal at ITIC"Oct 06 13:37
schestowitzI think Yankee is kind of defunctOct 06 13:37
schestowitzfor years now, as you never see them mentioned for yearsOct 06 13:37
schestowitzRedMonk is anotherOct 06 13:37
schestowitz41 Group no longer blogs much or at allOct 06 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Texas Judge Who Beat Daughter In Video, Seeks Reinstatement - http://huff.to/SDGdTY maybe he deserves something else (v @Asher_Wolf)Oct 06 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Next work week: Monday - Brussels, Tuesday-Wednesday, Paris - Thursday, Ghent - Friday, Rotterdam - Saturday, Londo ...Oct 06 13:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @adiblol: port #Colobot na GNU/Linuksa jest już w wersji pre-alpha, da się grać, gorzej z programowaniem w grze (edytor jeszcze zepsuty).Oct 06 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Shell is arguing that because they are a corporation, they can’t be held accountable for these murders" - http://bit.ly/WyLAEc #MurderIsBadOct 06 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (last v @suigenerisjen)Oct 06 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Donderdag! Als ik mag van @tuinslakOct 06 14:32
iophkhttp://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/ict/standards/extended/event_open_source_en.htmOct 06 14:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] When Will We See Collisions for SHA-1? - http://bit.ly/Q0EHbd "what an organized crime syndicate can budget by 2018"; fun numbersOct 06 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] No plans to cut UK abortion time limit, says Cameron - http://bit.ly/WyPPzO Hunt is shaping up as a real menace to societyOct 06 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jimmy Savile behaviour was 'open secret' at BBC - http://bit.ly/UKlBqO BBC says "no evidence" of cover-up by management; yeah, right.....Oct 06 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why does anyone want to be a Boy Scout anymore? - http://bit.ly/SS376z seems run by utter bigots in US; anyone know if it's better in UK?Oct 06 15:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese-funded Zimbabwean elite military college opened by Mugabe - http://bit.ly/SCmmq0 wow, talk about encapsulations...Oct 06 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gorgeous time-lapse video of industrial Shanghai - http://bit.ly/OJIOMW haunting... #chinaOct 06 15:57
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iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/evasive-maneuvers-how-the-pirate-bay-founders-dodged-swedish-justice/Oct 06 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] whistleblowers jailed, paedophiles promoted & sainted, gotta love the #CatholicChurch when it comes to ethics & morality http://goo.gl/BRs8rOct 06 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] resurrection makes sense precisely because it's nonsense? http://goo.gl/lmGqZ wtf #Christianity you have to laugh reallyOct 06 17:24
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Goblin-Netbookhi allOct 06 17:34
Goblin-Netbookright.....Oct 06 17:34
Goblin-Netbookits good to be back.....so when people notice this message......Oct 06 17:34
Goblin-Netbookin less than 6 words.....what have I missed?Oct 06 17:34
iophkNot so muchOct 06 17:37
_Goblin:)Oct 06 17:39
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_Goblinso.....who's going to queue up for the Surface release at midnight this month? ;)Oct 06 17:40
iophkWe'll see how out of touch M$ is come then-.Oct 06 17:40
_GoblinI'd expect Microsoft will be bribing the street drinkers with cans of Special Brew to pretend to be excited customers...... Oct 06 17:40
_Goblinthey'll do anything for a drink.Oct 06 17:40
MinceRi expect another Kin.Oct 06 17:42
MinceRnot even nokia's brand could sell this catastrophe of an OS. :>Oct 06 17:43
iophkor ZuneOct 06 17:43
MinceRthat tooOct 06 17:43
schestowitzhi _GoblinOct 06 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Laser Pointer - http://bit.ly/SShBmK a crescendo of intellectual bravura: how can they be anti-science in the face of this? (v @kyrah404)Oct 06 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 121005 - http://bit.ly/PZRyKP yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDDOct 06 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @artied: Pope's Butler does a bit of misguided whistleblowing, gets 18mo. Priests & bishops implicated in abuse scandals get...a transfer?Oct 06 17:55
Goblin-Netbookhi schestowitz !Oct 06 17:56
Goblin-Netbookdoing fifteen trillion things at once....but at least I've managed to come back to the room!Oct 06 17:56
Goblin-Netbookbeen far too longOct 06 17:56
_GoblinSorry I'm on two different handles, its because at the moment I'm moving around the house doing other thingsOct 06 17:59
MinceRnpOct 06 17:59
_GoblinI nuked Diaspora (due to repeated issues and trying to limit my social networking)Oct 06 18:01
_Goblinnow its just Identi.ca (which pipes to Twitter) and G+Oct 06 18:01
_GoblinI can't count COLA, but thats a guilty pleasure.Oct 06 18:01
MinceR:>Oct 06 18:01
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schestowitzcola is a messOct 06 18:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: Coca Cola :)Oct 06 18:14
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vikrambuzzhttp://vikrambuzz.blogspot.com/2012/10/amazing-latest-tech-news-in-quiz-format.htmlOct 06 18:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vikram Buzz: Amazing Latest Tech News in Quiz format .::. Size~: 79.89 KBOct 06 18:14
vikrambuzzpls consider publishing this link in your weekly summariesOct 06 18:15
vikrambuzzbyeOct 06 18:15
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Goblin-Netbookschestowitz, and its great....Oct 06 18:33
schestowitzhmm... that quiz is pointlessOct 06 18:34
iophkI figured no point in looking at link spamOct 06 18:34
schestowitzGoblin-Netbook: yes, it ceased to matterOct 06 18:34
Goblin-Netbookyeah.......a few "regulars" seem to be absent over the last few daysOct 06 18:38
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schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2004375Oct 06 18:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SCO Has Less Than $100,000 Left  http://techrights.org/2012/10/06/sco-broke/ #sco #unix #novellOct 06 18:46
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schestowitz"SCO should be banned forever from trolling the IT scene. SCO - WE ARE BORED ALREADY. Give up, go elsewhere, start to produce something useful, like clothes, etc. Nobody wants you."Oct 06 18:46
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schestowitz"SCO should be banned forever from trolling the IT scene. SCO - WE ARE BORED ALREADY. Give up, go elsewhere, start to produce something useful, like clothes, etc. Nobody wants you."Oct 06 13:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hollywood's new rhetoric reframes “innovation” as “innovation by permission” — and the public is worse off for it. https://eff.org/r.4aneOct 06 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reading University Union ejects atheist society over 'blasphemous' pineapple - http://bit.ly/Q1kWAv people are offensive: get over itOct 06 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (last v @RichardDawkins @normative)Oct 06 14:05
*Now talking on #techrightsOct 06 18:57
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovellOct 06 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reading University Union ejects atheist society over 'blasphemous' pineapple - http://bit.ly/Q1kWAv people are offensive: get over itOct 06 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (last v @RichardDawkins @normative)Oct 06 19:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Student Rights - Reading University Union ejects atheist society over 'blasphemous' pineapple .::. Size~: 16.05 KBOct 06 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Zimmermann passe 36 heures par jour à défendre les droits et les libertés des citoyens sur Internet" - http://bit.ly/Q1mnib (v @wikileaks)Oct 06 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, Sends First Tweet - http://tcrn.ch/UKEIB1 hmm, interesting: what's he been advised this will do?Oct 06 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "#PayPal now demanding back-end access to all files hosted on file-hosting sites regardless of user privacy settings" - http://bit.ly/R1yRcNOct 06 19:24
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iophkThat same strategy could better be used against spammers and spam.Oct 06 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Superweeds, Superpests: The Legacy of Pesticides - http://nyti.ms/QMyBOl the #NYT wakes up to the Joy of #Monsanto (v @dangillmor)Oct 06 19:42
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iophkSpammers are worse and the attacks on cyber lockers seem motivated by steering business towards the 'tube' sites.  'Oct 06 19:49
schestowitzworse than who?Oct 06 19:50
iophkWorse than the locker sites.Oct 06 19:53
iophkYou have to go out of your way to find and use a locker site. Spammers find you whereever you are. Oct 06 19:53
_GoblinRoy, just been catching up with some of your posts......Oct 06 19:54
_GoblinAmazon one is quite the discussion point I think.Oct 06 19:54
schestowitzyeah, bingOct 06 19:54
_GoblinI think its safe to say nobody uses it.Oct 06 19:56
_Goblinor nobody in a grand scheme of things sense.Oct 06 19:56
iophkIt's getting into Samsung TV's and into Thunderbird mail.Oct 06 19:56
_Goblinif Microsoft has to cut deals to get products to default it, thats never a good sign.Oct 06 19:56
_Gobliniophk,  but people can and do change it...Oct 06 19:57
iophkThe default weighs heavily.Oct 06 19:57
_Goblinmmm....not convinced..the name Google is too entrenched into a generic term for search...if users don't see it then they are not searching (in their mind-set)Oct 06 19:57
iophkI couldn't figure out how to remove it from Thunderbird even if I was able to change it from default.Oct 06 19:57
_GoblinBing can't even catch Google after worming its way into Facebook...apparently 1 in 7 on the planet have a facebook accountOct 06 19:58
iophkLot of gullible people.Oct 06 19:59
_Goblinso that to me says much about users general searching habits and what they trustOct 06 19:59
iophkIt's strange that Thunderbird is steering money to an entity that is fighting FOSS so hard and especially aggressive in the mail space.Oct 06 20:00
_Goblinone thing though (which I think transpired to be a good result) was that my prediction of Ballmer being gone by now was totally wrong....we have him to thank though for loss of market control, so its not all bad....Oct 06 20:00
_Goblinand re: thunderbird....let Microsoft have the scraps off the table...Oct 06 20:00
_Goblineven after entrenching itself into all these popular services and products, Bing can't get the better of Google.Oct 06 20:01
_Goblinlook at MS online losses.Oct 06 20:01
iophkThe results are bad.  The maps are so substandard that they're unusableOct 06 20:01
_GoblinI think its safe to say, Microsoft is afloat by its Windows legacy and the transient console gaming world.Oct 06 20:01
iophkThe windows legacy (OEMs) and the office  legacy (file formats) keep the whole thing afloat. Oct 06 20:05
iophkCompetitors like Oracle need to go after one of those two pillars or both.Oct 06 20:06
_Goblinagreed, but I'd rather see a legislative approach to dealing with Microsoft.....its long overdue.Oct 06 20:13
iophkLegislative would work but it's too slow and against a moving target.  It only works if it's proactive.Oct 06 20:14
iophkLook at how ineffectual the 'browser ballot' has been in stopping M$ from bundling MSIEOct 06 20:15
MinceRwhat happened to thunderbird now?Oct 06 20:16
iophkIt's go bing in the search.Oct 06 20:16
MinceRbìng spam?Oct 06 20:16
MinceRicOct 06 20:16
MinceRi wonder what a mail client needs a web search function forOct 06 20:16
iophkIt's not widely known or used, but there is a search function in tbirdOct 06 20:16
schestowitz[19:56] <iophk> It's getting into Samsung TV's and into Thunderbird mail.Oct 06 20:17
schestowitzAny URLs?Oct 06 20:17
iophkI'd say it's a function that can and should be removed.  Leave the web stuff to the web browser.Oct 06 20:17
schestowitz[19:58] <_Goblin> Bing can't even catch Google after worming its way into Facebook...apparently 1 in 7 on the planet have a facebook accountOct 06 20:17
MinceRor they could ship thunderbird with thunderbrowseOct 06 20:17
schestowitzspam accounts are not peopleOct 06 20:17
MinceRand firefox with a built-in email clientOct 06 20:17
iophkNo URL for the tv, someone I know bought one recently.  I haven't checked my own. Oct 06 20:17
schestowitzand many no longer even log into their accountOct 06 20:17
MinceRand they could offer seamonkey beside themOct 06 20:17
MinceR:>Oct 06 20:17
schestowitzlike twitter, digg, reddit..Oct 06 20:18
iophkhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/173822/how-to-make-thunderbird-not-use-bing-as-search-engineOct 06 20:18
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schestowitz[20:16] <iophk> It's go bing in the search.Oct 06 20:19
schestowitzjust in ubuNUT?Oct 06 20:19
schestowitzWhy would Mozilla do that?Oct 06 20:19
iophkNo.  In other versions too.Oct 06 20:19
schestowitzAnd they dumped development on it anywayOct 06 20:19
schestowitzshame on mozOct 06 20:19
MinceRindeedOct 06 20:19
iophkShame on Mozilla.  They could have gone with DDGOct 06 20:19
iophkat leastOct 06 20:19
iophkif they're just trying to spite Google.Oct 06 20:19
MinceRindeedOct 06 20:19
iophkGiving money to M$ via Bing is just giving money to fight Thunderbird via MS Exchange-LookoutOct 06 20:20
schestowitzthey said thy would  cease devOct 06 20:20
schestowitznot add antifeaturesOct 06 20:20
iophktrashing the place on the way out?Oct 06 20:21
iophkSylpheed is ok, but has a 90's feel to it.Oct 06 20:21
iophkAlpine is not being developed lately and has issues with gmail among others.Oct 06 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The US Invaded Iraq Because It Wouldn’t Have Survived Otherwise - http://bit.ly/R1I6cT @falkvinge as fun as everOct 06 20:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez AHJOOct 06 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @mylex eentje om binnen het jaar open te doen, anders klopt het etiket niet meerOct 06 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Official UK government attempt at #censorship - http://bit.ly/TeuGMt interesting (v @evacide @jilliancyork)Oct 06 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is reality from identi.ca with 78 dents!Oct 06 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @wikileaks: US kept Nelson Mandela on terror list untill 2008 | BBC http://t.co/XHeZUQ3T http://t.co/bz4O9bjFOct 06 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Now in #Boston Will soon go out and have some dinner. Any !freesoftware or !gnu people around Harvard Square, who want to have dinner?Oct 06 21:42
schestowitz[20:23] <iophk> Alpine is not being developed lately and has issues with gmail among others.Oct 06 21:48
schestowitzwas it just pine that got abandoned as far as further dev goes?Oct 06 21:49
schestowitzand pico got collapsed into nanoOct 06 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Activist Post: US Prepares for Overthrow of #Venezuela http://goo.gl/bBGPP #usa #stateterrorism #tptb #cfrOct 06 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @selknam: El minist de educ. argentino planea lanzar Huayra. Porqué no apoya el desarrollo de Drágora y listo? http://ur1.ca/ah6wyOct 06 23:39
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