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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Goodnight world. This old fart is in need of a lot of sleep. Enjoy whatever you are doing!Sep 30 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] way too #creepy permissions changed on the updated #Twitter client for #Android - now uninstalled, they don't need access to confidentialsSep 30 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I guess if ya can't make a client folks want to use, you just destroy the competition & win users by default #Twitter #AndroidSep 30 00:34
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DaemonFCNewegg is pimping Microsoft hardwareSep 30 00:56
DaemonFCperipheralsSep 30 00:56
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=unity_66_performance&num=1Sep 30 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Unity 6.6: Still Regressing On Performance? .::. Size~: 19.63 KBSep 30 00:58
DaemonFCoh, probablySep 30 00:58
DaemonFCI can't see where Compiz is likely to change direction anytime soonSep 30 00:58
DaemonFCCarlin: "Old style goodness. Yeah, back before they had sanitation laws." :)Sep 30 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] As well as sorting through terrabytes of images I’ve already taken over the years, I have been taking photographs of http://ur1.ca/aft1tSep 30 01:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: visual laurel .::. Size~: 24.02 KBSep 30 01:00
DaemonFCwe're working our way back thereSep 30 01:00
DaemonFC"Perhaps you have to turn off the Amazon advertisements to speed it up. "Sep 30 01:06
DaemonFCLOLSep 30 01:06
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DaemonFCI may skip KDE 5.0Sep 30 01:21
DaemonFCI'm not sure yetSep 30 01:21
DaemonFCthings are getting to the point where everything just works every time, so it feels like they're getting ready to break everything againSep 30 01:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Government support of open source falls short http://ur1.ca/aftat #frand #rand #swpatsSep 30 02:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government support of open source falls short | Open Source Software - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 95.12 KBSep 30 02:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Is submitting 6 talks for consideration at #29C3 is too much?..Sep 30 02:27
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DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-desktop': Linux 3.5.4-1.fc17.x86_64 running KDE Development Platform 4.9.1, CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 at 800 MHz (5987 bogomips), HD: 24/1824GB, RAM: 7546/7985MB, 178 proc's, 3.19h upSep 30 03:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] #Debian, say, manages to distribute a _lot_ of software without splitting the proceeds of "pro" licensing schemes with upstream projects.Sep 30 03:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] The latest Blender Foundation movie, Tears of Steel, is really beautiful! http://tearsofsteel.org/Sep 30 04:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tears of Steel | Mango Open Movie Project .::. Size~: 33.58 KBSep 30 04:20
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DaemonFCI had a duh moment and installed one of my case fans backwards after I dusted it yesterday Sep 30 04:54
DaemonFCwhoopsSep 30 04:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] !lubuntu Blog: Meet Compton, the new lightweight Composite Manager for low spec computers http://is.gd/BnQUoI !gnu !linuxSep 30 05:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: lubuntu blog: Meet Compton .::. Size~: 85.16 KBSep 30 05:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ancientart: Horse head, gilded silver, 4th century AD, Sassanid art. Found in Kerman, Iran. Photo taken by Jastrow at the Louvre, France. Sep 30 05:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] waterbug danceSep 30 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] 50 websites om (online) gratis te leren programmeren http://is.gd/4IEpLM via @iLifehackNLSep 30 06:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 50 plaatsen om (online) gratis te leren programmeren • iLifehack .::. Size~: 66.73 KBSep 30 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Kev Quirk http://ur1.ca/afumuSep 30 07:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Another wordy one... .::. Size~: 157.99 KBSep 30 07:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Greek Pastafarian arrested for "Cyber Crimes" http://identi.ca/url/73744303 #FreeGeronPastitsiosSep 30 08:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Greek Pastafarian arrested for "Cyber Crimes" - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.54 KBSep 30 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 120929 - http://bit.ly/Pj4E4p yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDDSep 30 09:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moody's Microblog Daily Digest: 120929 .::. Size~: 72.52 KBSep 30 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Greek #Pastafarian arrested for "Cyber Crimes" - http://bit.ly/QCLfPR hey, #greece, remember that "western civilisation" stuff...?Sep 30 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Italians Take Up The Torch To Ignite Their Own Tech Startup Scene - http://tcrn.ch/OwQ7HT things seem to be taking off: great #itSep 30 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Greek Pastafarian arrested for "Cyber Crimes" - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 28.54 KBSep 30 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italians Take Up The Torch To Ignite Their Own Tech Startup Scene | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 87.23 KBSep 30 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thomas Jefferson, enthusiastic, brutal slaver - http://bit.ly/NYdb0r sadSep 30 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thomas Jefferson, enthusiastic, brutal slaver - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 32.15 KBSep 30 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mexico's Media Monopolies and The Threats Facing the #YoSoy132 Youth Movement - http://onforb.es/RrSutK interesting #actaSep 30 09:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexico's Media Monopolies and The Threats Facing the #YoSoy132 Youth Movement - Forbes .::. Size~: 65.44 KBSep 30 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/afxl8Sep 30 09:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Greek #Pastafarian arrested for "Cyber Crimes" -… .::. Size~: 149.93 KBSep 30 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Sep-28: Rajesh Lal gives a talk entitled: "Accessible Design with HTML5" http://dlvr.it/2F87mvSep 30 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Talks by W3C Speakers .::. Size~: 226.22 KBSep 30 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Sep-28: Rajesh Lal gives a talk entitled: "Accessible Design with HTML5" http://dlvr.it/2F8Bn0Sep 30 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Oct-03: Philipp Hoschka participates at a panel entitled: Is HTML5 the future?" http://dlvr.it/2F8BplSep 30 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Oct-09: Philipp Hoschka gives a talk entitled: "Les technologies Web de demain au service du multi-device" http://dlvr.it/2F8Bq1Sep 30 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Oct-04: Lea Verou gives a talk entitled: "More CSS secrets: Another 10 things you may not know about CSS" http://dlvr.it/2F8Bq9Sep 30 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Oct-03: Michael Hausenblas, Chair of the RDB2RDF Working Group, gives a talk entitled: "Linked Data for... http://dlvr.it/2F8BqLSep 30 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2012-Oct-01: Charles McCathieNevile, Chair of the Web Applications Working Group, gives a talk entitled: "Yandex... http://dlvr.it/2F8BqVSep 30 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #EPO Decides to Listen to Anti-Patents Stance, #USPTO Censors It http://ur1.ca/afy2f #swpats #censorshipSep 30 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EPO Decides to Listen to Anti-Patents Stance, USPTO Censors It | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.86 KBSep 30 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Czy ktoś mógłby p.Ratajczaka doinformować o !CC?.. bo ja nie mam siły... bit.ly/Qekfo2Sep 30 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Finished all episodes of Cracker yesterday. And yes, at the end (the final two episodes) it became clear that the scri... http://b1t.it/caEuSep 30 10:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Finished all episodes of Cracker yesterday. And yes, at the… .::. Size~: 143.1 KBSep 30 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After the Apple-Samsung Ruling http://ur1.ca/afywp #apple #samsungSep 30 10:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: After the Apple-Samsung Ruling | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.27 KBSep 30 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google y u so stupid? http://ur1.ca/afz7g Still cannot get 1.4 GB of wedding photos due to stupid ISP throttlingSep 30 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google drops Pirate Bay from Autocomplete results | TG Daily .::. Size~: 47.41 KBSep 30 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple's co-founder uses #Samsung #Android phone http://ur1.ca/a8cj4Sep 30 11:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple’s Wozniak Hopes IPhone Photos Beat His Samsung Galaxy’s - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 132.21 KBSep 30 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FredoFredonis 't is hier meer mainstream.Sep 30 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FredoFredonis ahjo, ik moet gewoon naar starbucks ofwaSep 30 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Great to have met @jamieandrews - we have complementary goals: open train schedules and open ticketing services.Sep 30 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @poggs there's a nap for thatSep 30 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve pf, flauwSep 30 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FredoFredonis was barburo niet open vanaf 9uur? #geslotendeurSep 30 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @KimRaes Van "ambtenaar" nog niet gesprokenSep 30 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @FredoFredonis ach. Openingsuren aangepast. En coworkers werken precies niet op zondag. SpijtigSep 30 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reddit wisdom (how weird is that?): "Just because you're anonymous doesn't mean you can be an asshole." - http://www.... http://b1t.it/caFkSep 30 11:39
TechrightsBot-trCouldn't resolve host 'www....' ( http://www.... )Sep 30 11:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Reddit wisdom (how weird is that?): "Just because you're… .::. Size~: 141.48 KBSep 30 11:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1990699Sep 30 12:14
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Android Powered Desktop Announced By #Motorola Mobility http://thedroidguy.com/2012/09/android-powered-desktop-announced-by-motorola-mobility/Sep 30 12:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Android Powered Desktop Announced By Motorola Mobility | The Droid Guy .::. Size~: 37.06 KBSep 30 12:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1990644Sep 30 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr@ya@diasp.org: ![](http://is.gd/I7OXB2) ... never #fuck wid #leopards ...Sep 30 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android Powered Desktop Announced By #Motorola Mobility http://ur1.ca/ag0iqSep 30 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android Powered Desktop Announced By Motorola Mobility | The Droid Guy .::. Size~: 37.06 KBSep 30 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Laser Pointer http://ur1.ca/af07i http://ur1.ca/af07iSep 30 12:19
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schestowitzhttps://thunderf00tdotorg.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/watching-yourself-sleep/Sep 30 12:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Watching Yourself Sleep! « Thunderf00t .::. Size~: 41.95 KBSep 30 12:19
schestowitzcubezzz: are the irc logs on maxhost still up to date?Sep 30 12:38
schestowitzthey seem to end august 12thSep 30 12:38
cubezzzah, probably not Sep 30 12:43
cubezzzI had to reset X a while back, that's probably when it stoppedSep 30 12:44
schestowitzdo you still have the logs going? I need them urgently :-)Sep 30 12:45
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schestowitzis there another machine with the recent logs on it, which can have them on maxhost?Sep 30 12:46
cubezzzthere's only the scrollback on this machienSep 30 12:47
cubezzzI can give you thatSep 30 12:47
schestowitzoh, let me see if someone else, maybe MinceR, has got IRC logs 25th august to present...Sep 30 12:49
cubezzzok, well it's back to logging nowSep 30 12:49
schestowitzthanksSep 30 12:49
cubezzzmaybe I'll run a text only irc on the server insteadSep 30 12:50
cubezzzthen it would survive an X-resetSep 30 12:50
cubezzzor just stick xchat in rc.local I supposeSep 30 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] I assembled an experimental #raspberrypi #sipwitch access point last nightSep 30 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] We already have a #debian #wheezy #armhf repository built with #sipwitch and other packages for #raspberrypi in #gnutelephonySep 30 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] #coventry is proposed name of a meta-package for, and a distribution of #sipwitch, particularly for use on #raspberrypiSep 30 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve not going to say it. http://t.co/5x52G3aCSep 30 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Luckily google and facebook are taking over the "protecting" thingy as +Moan Lisa can attest. #sarcasm  Walled gard... http://b1t.it/caGoSep 30 13:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bizarre: cat-kitten- .::. Size~: 19.46 KBSep 30 13:09
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cubezzzoiaohm, what is the best file to startup an application after a reset of X?Sep 30 13:14
oiaohmcubezzz: ok what are you upto.Sep 30 13:15
cubezzzjust making sure xchat keeps logging stuff after a reset of XSep 30 13:16
oiaohmNormal line goes display manager starts up bring in X11Sep 30 13:16
cubezzzhow about /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ?Sep 30 13:17
oiaohmcubezzz: really for that you should consider a bot.Sep 30 13:18
oiaohmI guess you don't need xchat running on the login screen.Sep 30 13:19
oiaohmhttp://wiki.debian.org/XinitrcSep 30 13:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Xinitrc - Debian Wiki .::. Size~: 11.23 KBSep 30 13:20
cubezzzah, maybe $KDEDIR/share/autostart thenSep 30 13:20
oiaohmxinitrc is only going to kick in when you login in cubezzzSep 30 13:20
cubezzzoh yeahSep 30 13:20
cubezzzsame with KDE stuff Sep 30 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Getting the hang of it. http://ur1.ca/ag1qmSep 30 13:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Photos - Google+ .::. Size~: 85.62 KBSep 30 13:24
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_%28software%29  I guess this is what you are looking for cubezzzSep 30 13:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BNC (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 33.68 KBSep 30 13:24
cubezzzoiaohm, I don't need to hide my ip address :)Sep 30 13:26
cubezzzsome text only irc client that can log stuff will doSep 30 13:26
oiaohmhttps://projects.duckcorp.org/projects/bip/wiki/FeaturesSep 30 13:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Features - Bip - DuckCorp Projects .::. Size~: 6.58 KBSep 30 13:27
oiaohmcubezzz: these are servers that maintain the connection.Sep 30 13:27
cubezzzthis connection is untrusted...Sep 30 13:27
oiaohmself signed certificate.Sep 30 13:28
cubezzzadding exception...Sep 30 13:28
oiaohmBNC software is not just for hidding IP.Sep 30 13:28
oiaohmYes side effect its hides every machine behind it.Sep 30 13:28
cubezzzthis will give me an excuse to learn irssi Sep 30 13:29
oiaohmBut the means to maintain logged in state is handy.Sep 30 13:29
oiaohmI use this to be able to move around and remain in IRC at home.Sep 30 13:29
oiaohmAnd even accross vpn at times.Sep 30 13:29
oiaohmcubezzz: remember if you are running something like bip you can change clients without end users knowing.Sep 30 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] deliberately or ineptly, it's been done. I think deliberately. Look here: http://ur1.ca/ag2reSep 30 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] the cc icon could have easily been at the top by the listen, download, and pro license graphics. instead it is "hidden" down at the bottom.Sep 30 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] "hidden" below a long scroll of empty white space to the left even though there is info on the right. this "disrespects" the cc licenses.Sep 30 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I think I get the attempted definition. I happen to disagree with that attempt. It disrespects other's needs/uses.Sep 30 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] What I want from all sites hosting Free works is a license / Free filter. I click on which licenses I want and that is all I see on the siteSep 30 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] This should be set once in my account preferences. I never again see anything non-Free on the site. Stop wasting my time sites.Sep 30 14:39
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iophkhttp://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/27/apple-ipad-dominates-tablet-based-web-browsing-with-98-share-report-saysSep 30 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Things that kill http://imgur.com/a/yFlIQSep 30 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Denis Labelle http://ur1.ca/ag4rmSep 30 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz good. do you agree that his stance is that educational works are meant to be used for education, but so can other kinds of works?Sep 30 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] If corporations are legal persons and their shareholders force them to work, is that slavery? #PhilosoRaptorSep 30 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] no, i do not agree with his stance as it leads to a poor conclusion. i see how his poor stance leads logically to his poor conclusion thoughSep 30 16:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz tjatSep 30 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I didn't ask whether you agree with his stance, but on what his stance is. knowing the latter is 1st step in avoiding strawmenSep 30 16:47
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founder-remains-locked-up-without-charges-120930/Sep 30 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] Google drops Pirate Bay from Autocomplete results http://ur1.ca/ag54bSep 30 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz I, for one, reject the notion that authors or editors get to decide how works they publish are [meant] to be usedSep 30 16:50
vikrambuzzhttp://vikrambuzz.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-remove-ubuntu-zeitgeist-and-why.htmlSep 30 16:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz my rejection of a basic premise in his reasoning doesn't stop me from understanding, acknowledging and disagreeing with consequencesSep 30 16:53
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIRjB6CPxLE&feature=relatedSep 30 16:54
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DaemonFC"No, no, no paperwork. Just sprinkle some crack on him and let's get the fuck out of here."Sep 30 16:57
DaemonFC:)Sep 30 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tdforg/@tdforg] #LibreOffice #donation #campaign starts tomorrow - you define the #community #budget for 2013! http://ur1.ca/afk9rSep 30 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Super Grub Disk http://goo.gl/zPG6 #flosstools #gnulinux #sysrescueSep 30 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] IP extremism. Stop innovating! Only if we allow you to! You are all criminals till proven good for our dying business ... http://b1t.it/caJCSep 30 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] A picture of our assembled first experimental secure #voip hotspot prototype server http://ur1.ca/ag5icSep 30 17:14
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DaemonFChttp://toastytech.com/guis/wincdx.htmlSep 30 17:22
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DaemonFCThe difference between piracy and Microsoft licensing.Sep 30 17:24
DaemonFCIf you pirate, it could come with a keylogger and might allow criminals to drain your bank account.Sep 30 17:25
DaemonFCIf you license, criminals get your credit card, drain your bank account, and then sooner or later you'll get a keylogger anyway and it will happen again.Sep 30 17:25
DaemonFCI wonder how much fraud that online merchants get to eat every year due to Regulation ZSep 30 17:26
DaemonFCand Windows malwareSep 30 17:26
DaemonFCI'm sure they don't want to say because it would anger credit card companies, the federal reserve, and MicrosoftSep 30 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 30/9/2012: Slackware 14.0 is Out http://ur1.ca/ag5rd #techrightsSep 30 17:32
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DaemonFCI'm going to try running Portal 2 again laterSep 30 17:33
DaemonFCit didn't work in Wine last time I tried it, and it's been sitting in my stack of games for some time nowSep 30 17:34
DaemonFC"I get why they called it Gigolo. It’s the Xfce utility that “mounts anything without complaining.”"Sep 30 17:35
DaemonFClolSep 30 17:35
DaemonFChttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ActiveDirectorySep 30 17:38
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DaemonFCMATE works its way into Fedora 18Sep 30 17:40
DaemonFCno spin yet....Sep 30 17:40
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Sep 30 17:40
schestowitz> Sep 30 17:40
schestowitz> 'directhex' pops up on the Ubuntu Forums whenever the string 'mono'Sep 30 17:40
schestowitz> occurs in a thread.  Do you know of any convenient monitoring softwareSep 30 17:40
schestowitz> for the forums that can do that?Sep 30 17:40
Diablo-D3fucking directhexSep 30 17:40
Diablo-D3I know how hes doing it tooSep 30 17:40
DaemonFCdirecthex totally flipped out when Canonical shoved Mono out of the default installSep 30 17:41
Diablo-D3bet that forum software has a new post rss feedSep 30 17:41
DaemonFCyou can still choose to install everything they removed yourselfSep 30 17:41
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mariuzhttp://lubuntublog.blogspot.ro/2012/09/meet-compton.html  Meet Compton - compozite manager for Lubuntu with shadows, transparencies and smooth transitionsSep 30 18:10
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DaemonFCwrestling around with WineSep 30 18:26
DaemonFCtrying to get Portal 2 to runSep 30 18:26
DaemonFCtempted to go see if someone has a rip of something I paid forSep 30 18:26
DaemonFCenragedSep 30 18:26
DaemonFCmaybe if I install the i686 version of Wine....Sep 30 18:28
DaemonFCtheir version of WoW64 is less than impressiveSep 30 18:28
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yep old news Mate coming to FedoraSep 30 18:38
DaemonFCIt'd be nice if someone could fork Compiz and unfuck thatSep 30 18:38
DaemonFCI'd use MATE if someone forked Compiz and unfucked itSep 30 18:39
DaemonFC:)Sep 30 18:39
DaemonFCCompiz probably needs too much work to fix itSep 30 18:39
DaemonFCif kwin wasn't so dependent on kdelibs, then MATE under kwin might be a good way to goSep 30 18:40
DaemonFCit would workSep 30 18:40
DaemonFCsomeone might have to draw a window decorator to make it look native, but you can do that in qml nowSep 30 18:40
DaemonFCI think KDE had the opposite problem at one pointSep 30 18:41
DaemonFCthey actually considered merging Compiz into kwin for their compositor and decided it would never fit in well without taking more effort than just adding a compositor to kwinSep 30 18:42
DaemonFCI'm not so sure about thatSep 30 18:43
DaemonFCI used to use Compiz as my window manager for KDE 3Sep 30 18:43
sebsebsebI think Compiz is mainly an Ubuntu thing nowSep 30 18:45
DaemonFCyeah, desktops running without an official window manager tend not to work as well as they couldSep 30 18:46
sebsebsebwell Compiz doesn't work with GNOME ShellSep 30 18:46
sebsebsebI think a lot of KDE users don't bother with it anymoreSep 30 18:47
DaemonFCwhen you had Compiz on GNOME going on, they couldn't fix each others bugs and sometimes they didn't even care toSep 30 18:47
sebsebsebsame with XFCE nad LXDESep 30 18:47
DaemonFCGNOME was only worried about MetacitySep 30 18:47
sebsebsebwell did XFCE and LXDE even suport it?Sep 30 18:47
DaemonFCsupport? noSep 30 18:47
Diablo-D3compiz is kinda deadSep 30 18:47
DaemonFCwork? usually :)Sep 30 18:47
Diablo-D3it doesnt work right with anythingSep 30 18:47
Diablo-D3especially not gnome3Sep 30 18:47
Diablo-D3and btw, it could never work with gnome shellSep 30 18:47
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: Compiz is kind of dead sureSep 30 18:47
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: ,but not in Ubuntu landSep 30 18:47
Diablo-D3gnome shell combines the wm and the shell of the deSep 30 18:48
sebsebsebremember Unity still  uses CompizSep 30 18:48
DaemonFCyou can use Compiz on GNOME 3 in Fallback modeSep 30 18:48
DaemonFCbut who wants fallback mode?Sep 30 18:48
Diablo-D3unity abuses libcompiz iircSep 30 18:48
DaemonFCit's less functional and much more piggish than GNOME 2 ever wasSep 30 18:48
Diablo-D3but that doesnt mean unity uses compizSep 30 18:48
sebsebsebDaemonFC: true fall back mode hmm, uh GNOME 2 is better or MateSep 30 18:48
DaemonFCif you want GNOME 2, use MATESep 30 18:48
sebsebsebwell yeah, or stay using a distro for longer a version of that still has GNOME 2Sep 30 18:48
sebsebsebactsually some distros will keep GNOME 2 as long as they can reallySep 30 18:49
DaemonFCI think GNOME 3's fallback mode uses about 35% more RAM than GNOME 2.32Sep 30 18:49
DaemonFCthat's bad considering how GNOME 3 fallback is so crippledSep 30 18:49
sebsebsebGNOME 3 fall back mode was never designed to be that goodSep 30 18:49
sebsebsebalso really they could have designed it to be much more GNOME 2 like, but nopeSep 30 18:50
dyfetbecomes gnome 3 shell was never "designed" to be all that good either? ;)Sep 30 18:50
DaemonFCwell, someone could come along and fork the fallback mode and add panel applets and so onSep 30 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] Do Bad Things Happen When Works Enter The Public Domain? The Data Says... No http://t.co/CSktsDlDSep 30 18:50
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DaemonFCbut what's the point in making it just like GNOME 2/MATE if it's going to use half again as much RAM at that point? :)Sep 30 18:50
DaemonFCGNOME 3 is actually getting worse as time goes onSep 30 18:51
sebsebsebdyfet: final versions are ok, but  really I still prefer a old development version that goes on top of GNOME 2Sep 30 18:51
DaemonFClots of people are pissed about the new Nautilus in 3.6Sep 30 18:51
Diablo-D3I dunnoSep 30 18:51
dyfetpersonally I do like xfce4 more now than I did gnome 2 when there still was a gnome 2 (or mate...)Sep 30 18:51
Diablo-D3I want to like gnome 3Sep 30 18:51
Diablo-D3dyfet: I switched to xfce from gnome 2 before 3 was even thought ofSep 30 18:51
Diablo-D3gnome 2 suckedSep 30 18:51
sebsebsebdyfet: something about XFCE and LXDE, ok, but woudn't quite do it, so GNOME 2 usuallySep 30 18:52
sebsebseboh and running GNOME 2 in Mageai 1 right nowSep 30 18:52
sebsebsebMageia 1Sep 30 18:52
DaemonFCthere's the 80/20 rule, but GNOME only follows the first part of itSep 30 18:52
dyfetI had played with xfce a long time...but I only really adopted it after unity (and g3) started coming out...Sep 30 18:52
XFaCEI've managed to keep gnome shit on xfce to a minimumSep 30 18:52
DaemonFC80% of users never use more than 20% of a typical program's featuresSep 30 18:52
XFaCEnetworkmanager for wifiSep 30 18:52
dyfetand I found xfce to be better when I did soSep 30 18:52
sebsebsebDaemonFC: yeah true I guessSep 30 18:53
DaemonFCso GNOME decides to remove 80% of the featuresSep 30 18:53
Diablo-D3XFaCE: keeping gnome shit to a minimum doesnt really make senseSep 30 18:53
DaemonFCbut the second part says that every user uses a different 20%Sep 30 18:53
Diablo-D3like, its just a set of libs if you're not running gnomeSep 30 18:53
XFaCEDiablo-D3: ahSep 30 18:53
DaemonFCso you can't distill it past a certain point without making it useless to everyoneSep 30 18:53
XFaCEDiablo-D3: I was more referring to using Mutter and Gnome-Search-ToolSep 30 18:53
Diablo-D3well, yeah, those dont make senseSep 30 18:53
Diablo-D3those are part of the desktopSep 30 18:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Mutter being the easiest way of solving the vsync issuesSep 30 18:54
DaemonFCthis is bad...Sep 30 18:54
DaemonFCmy neighbor is blasting his stereoSep 30 18:54
DaemonFCand I can tell what songs he listens to by the vibrations of my houseSep 30 18:54
DaemonFC:PSep 30 18:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: ok, so can you elaborate on what "having GNOME shit" would mean to you?Sep 30 18:54
Diablo-D3I use evince as my pdf reader, for exampleSep 30 18:55
*DaemonFC is listening to Rooster by Alice In Chains on Dirt [Amarok]Sep 30 18:57
DaemonFCI have most of the same stuff on my hard disk, in VorbisSep 30 18:58
DaemonFC:PSep 30 18:58
Diablo-D3at least I have gtk3 apps themed correctly nowSep 30 18:58
DaemonFCtrying PlayOnLinux nowSep 30 18:59
DaemonFCit hasn't worked out so great in the pastSep 30 18:59
dyfetyes, that is another pain...theming.  I actually found using oxygen-gtk2/3 everywhere was simplest solutionSep 30 18:59
Diablo-D3wellSep 30 18:59
Diablo-D3xfce has a gtk3 engine for xfce themesSep 30 18:59
Diablo-D3so if you're already using those, you're coveredSep 30 19:00
Diablo-D3I use clearlooks, and theres a clearlooks gtk3 engineSep 30 19:00
dyfetand qt is happy using the gtk2 backend...Sep 30 19:00
Diablo-D3yupSep 30 19:00
Diablo-D3actually, I think its using a gtk3 backend nowSep 30 19:00
DaemonFCthe theme format for GTK 2 and 3 is radically differentSep 30 19:00
DaemonFCa lot of my favorite GTK 2 themes never got ported Sep 30 19:00
DaemonFCwe are talking about 10 years or so that GTK 2 was around, iircSep 30 19:01
dyfetI have my own gtk2 theme and never figured out to port it to gtk3...so I am not surprisedSep 30 19:01
DaemonFCthere were some great GTK 2 themesSep 30 19:01
DaemonFCGTK 2 applications "feel" more responsive to me than GTK 3 apps do, as wellSep 30 19:01
DaemonFCI doubt it's my imaginationSep 30 19:01
dyfetyes they doSep 30 19:02
DaemonFCit's probably the programmer's "Oh everyone has 8 core CPUs and 16 GB of RAM now!"Sep 30 19:02
DaemonFC(and if they don't, they should!)Sep 30 19:02
DaemonFChell, Qt4 doesn't feel as heavy as GTK 3 doesSep 30 19:03
DaemonFCactually, now that Qt4 defaults to raster, it smokes GTKSep 30 19:03
dyfetI like Qt for coding much more than gtkSep 30 19:03
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DaemonFCif I have to use a GTK app, I try to make it a GTK 2 oneSep 30 19:04
DaemonFCas a user, I hate dealing with GTK 3 even though it has an Oxygen theme nowSep 30 19:04
DaemonFCI guess it's coming one way or the otherSep 30 19:04
DaemonFCMozilla is going to start using it soon, even in SeamonkeySep 30 19:05
DaemonFCthey always need a way to make Firefox slower to compensate for Moore's LawSep 30 19:05
dyfetThere are gtk2 forks emerging of things that migrated to gtk3...well, some of it is driven by mate, but not all...Sep 30 19:06
Diablo-D3yeah, no one gives a shit about mateSep 30 19:07
Diablo-D3its a waste of effortSep 30 19:07
Diablo-D3I can use gtk3 apps fine, so can everyone elseSep 30 19:07
sebsebsebDiablo-D3: quite a lot of people care about MateSep 30 19:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1990780Sep 30 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Copyright censorship is out of control.   http://blog.ninapaley.com/2012/09/29/youtubes-content-id-abuse-is-out-of-control/ Self hosting is one solution but ISPs are going to kick people off for sharing too.  This has to stop if we want a free society.Sep 30 19:09
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dyfetwell, mate does demonstrate why things like the freedom to fork and maintain code rather than being forced to migrate when someone wants to abandon it and force upgrades is importantSep 30 19:09
schestowitz"we need more free networks like guifi.net and use yacy/seeks instead of bloogle and friends"Sep 30 19:09
dyfetthat said, I am not interested in mate either, though I do appreciate that there is a community that clearly isSep 30 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Howto: Use elinks like a pro http://goo.gl/OOQ5b #cli #gnulinux #lowspecbox http://elinks.or.cz/ - comparison http://ur1.ca/2ufa7Sep 30 19:12
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DaemonFCI don't think MATE is a wasted effortSep 30 19:13
DaemonFCTrinity probably isSep 30 19:13
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVYhwKu7J5E&feature=fvwrelSep 30 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @mylex: Fijne namiddag met @pietercolpaert en Magalie @ Bar Buro. #duveltjesSep 30 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @MikeTaylor: California to create free (CC BY) textbooks for 50 college courses https://t.co/32qBxq5 http://ur1. ...Sep 30 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken ziemaar dagge der graakt #roadmapSep 30 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @mylex Ik zit boven uSep 30 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @transid: L'open data dans les transports en paroles et en dessins : http://t.co/oCzss9U7 #opendataSep 30 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @mylex idem!Sep 30 19:22
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DaemonFCGNOME 2.32 was in much better shape when upstream abandoned it than KDE 3 wasSep 30 19:23
DaemonFCand Red Hat is stuck supporting it for many more yearsSep 30 19:24
DaemonFC(and MATE has more maintainers than the "international team of developers called Timothy Pearson")Sep 30 19:24
DaemonFCmost pointless fucking thing ever of the year award should go to Debian for kFreeBSDSep 30 19:25
DaemonFCbasically it's just like Debian only slower and with no KMS support at allSep 30 19:27
DaemonFCthe only thing they can come up with to excuse it is ZFSSep 30 19:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Watching Youtube videos in Elinks « urukrama’s weblog http://goo.gl/WqJ75 #cliSep 30 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] WordGrinder: a word processor for processing words http://goo.gl/N5Kt #cli #lowspecbox #gnulinuxSep 30 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 120929 - http://bit.ly/Pj4E4p yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDDSep 30 19:35
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MinceRschestowitz: i think i doSep 30 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Off to bed reading The Casual Vacancy on the Kindle. Goodnight :-) http://ur1.ca/ag7up... http://b1t.it/caMpSep 30 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Z powodu niskiego stanu wody została zmieniona nazwa królowej polskich rzek: "Wischła" !polskaSep 30 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hack and / - Do the Splits | Linux Journal http://goo.gl/4QuHH #tips #cli #lowspecboxSep 30 20:09
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DaemonFCThree trains in 15 minutesSep 30 20:13
*DaemonFC wonders if it's crap coming from China or machinery going to ChinaSep 30 20:14
MinceRyou have a train connection to china? :>Sep 30 20:14
DaemonFCno, but there's a port in ChicagoSep 30 20:14
DaemonFCand there's a train track by my house that passes by ChicagoSep 30 20:14
MinceRicSep 30 20:15
DaemonFCsounds like they are headed towards Chicago todaySep 30 20:15
DaemonFCMinceR: I was talking to my dad about the manufacturing situation in Indiana, where we now have Chinese companies opening factories hereSep 30 20:16
DaemonFC"Yes. Some comes back, at slave wages." was his replySep 30 20:16
MinceRnice.Sep 30 20:16
DaemonFCwe have a Republican candidate for Governor that's talkign about Indiana's "success story" under the last eight years of Republican mismanagementSep 30 20:18
DaemonFCwe've succeeded in getting real unemployment up to 18% and destroying wage and hour and environmental protection lawsSep 30 20:18
MinceRthink of it as preparation for the time when the usa's economy has collapsedSep 30 20:18
MinceRdue to fundamentalism and such thingsSep 30 20:18
DaemonFCbasically the strongest worker protections left are federal laws that the Republicans can't do much about right nowSep 30 20:19
DaemonFCyeahSep 30 20:19
DaemonFCstupid fundamentalists and white trash breedersSep 30 20:19
DaemonFCusing the state welfare system to spawn their 8-9 welfare childrenSep 30 20:19
DaemonFCwho will all grow up to be illiterate and have no understanding of how anything worksSep 30 20:20
DaemonFCjust like mom and dad, except now there's four times as many of them running aroundSep 30 20:20
DaemonFCMinceR: We're in trouble when the welfare system closes up and says "Sorry, fresh out of welfare checks."Sep 30 20:21
DaemonFCThere was a two day processing delay at a welfare office in Georgia a couple years agoSep 30 20:21
DaemonFCand the local news showed up and said there were people shouting and banging on the windowsSep 30 20:21
DaemonFCthey walk up and interview this black woman with five kidsSep 30 20:22
DaemonFCshe says it's "her right" to get food stamps and medicaid, and TANFSep 30 20:22
DaemonFCI was thinking "Oh shit. There's going to be riots if the free money ever stops coming in."Sep 30 20:22
DaemonFCthey can't figure out how to shut down the welfare system because even the states where the Republicans are the majority know that when they shut it down, riots will happenSep 30 20:23
MinceR:>Sep 30 20:23
MinceRisn't that what the military industrial complex is for? :>Sep 30 20:23
DaemonFCMinceR: Yeah, at the same time, they make it very VERY easy to fuck up and go to prisonSep 30 20:24
DaemonFCtwice as easy if you're poor, and about three times as easy if you're not whiteSep 30 20:24
DaemonFC"Lock everyone up" will only go so farSep 30 20:25
DaemonFCit costs Indiana about $59 a day per prisoner excluding medical expensesSep 30 20:25
MinceRthere's an industry for that, tooSep 30 20:25
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DaemonFCif we have 800 prisoners per 100,000 people, and there are about 7 million people, we have about 56,000 state prisoners right nowSep 30 20:26
DaemonFCgive or take a few thousandSep 30 20:26
MinceRit's another way to follow red chinaSep 30 20:27
DaemonFCif it costs $59 a day without medical care, the prison system in Indiana (state only) costs $3.3 million a day to runSep 30 20:27
MinceRyou just need to put all the prisoners to work :>Sep 30 20:27
DaemonFCand $1.2 billion per yearSep 30 20:27
DaemonFCif you add in medical care, it's probably somewhere around $2.2-$2.5 billion a year to run Indiana's state prison systemSep 30 20:27
DaemonFCthat's ridiculousSep 30 20:28
DaemonFClet's say that half of Indiana's population pays a significant amount of taxesSep 30 20:28
DaemonFC(kids don't pay taxes and there are a lot of poor people, so it may be even less than half)Sep 30 20:28
DaemonFCand let's suppose the lower figure of $2.2 billion a yearSep 30 20:29
DaemonFC2.2 billion divided by 3.5 million tax payers = $628 a year per taxpayerSep 30 20:29
DaemonFCthe state gets some of that money from the fedsSep 30 20:30
DaemonFCanywhere from 30-50% of itSep 30 20:30
DaemonFCbut that just means we have to consider that some of it was paid by Indiana taxpayers to the federal government, which returned some of it to the stateSep 30 20:30
DaemonFCMinceR: When you look at it that way, welfare is a great deal for the stateSep 30 20:31
DaemonFCbecause it costs less than half of what putting someone in prison doesSep 30 20:31
DaemonFCthe reason we're getting more prisoners is because someone makes money running the prisonsSep 30 20:31
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DaemonFCand it keeps the unemployment down because the prison needs hundreds of people to run itSep 30 20:31
DaemonFCor so they saySep 30 20:32
DaemonFCprison work programs actually cause unemployment in the general population to riseSep 30 20:32
DaemonFCbecause that's work that a person who is not incarcerated can't perform for a fair wageSep 30 20:32
DaemonFCwhen unemployment rises, more people go to prison, where prison work programs cause unemployment to riseSep 30 20:33
DaemonFCit feeds itselfSep 30 20:33
DaemonFCand once you've been in prison, there's obviously fewer job opportunities when you get out because Indiana never lets you expunge a record, for anythingSep 30 20:34
DaemonFCand you even get people on the sex offender registry who don't belong there because of things like false rape accusationsSep 30 20:34
DaemonFCand pissing in the woods counts as a sex offense if someone happens to see you doing itSep 30 20:34
DaemonFCso we have a truly rotten system and more ways to go to prison and stay there than ways to stay outSep 30 20:35
MinceR"tough on crime", eh?Sep 30 20:35
DaemonFCwell, tough on crime is one thingSep 30 20:35
DaemonFCmaking a bigger list of crimes just to send more people to prison is what we actually haveSep 30 20:35
DaemonFCso they're creating more crimes to be tough onSep 30 20:35
DaemonFC;)Sep 30 20:35
MinceRisn't that what it always meant? :>Sep 30 20:36
DaemonFCMinceR: There's a difference between murder and possession of marijuanaSep 30 20:36
DaemonFCthey're letting murderers out to put people with petty possession charges inSep 30 20:37
MinceRyes, the former is less of a crime :>Sep 30 20:37
MinceRbut copyright infringement (when done by someone who isn't rich) is even more seriousSep 30 20:37
DaemonFCand it depends on who you killSep 30 20:37
MinceRthat tooSep 30 20:37
DaemonFCif you kill someone else that the state considers undesirable, they're less likely to even really bother investigating itSep 30 20:37
DaemonFCyou kill a police officer, you get a needle in the armSep 30 20:38
DaemonFCif someone killed me, I'd probably be a low priority investigationSep 30 20:38
DaemonFCNot a drug dealing pimpSep 30 20:38
DaemonFCbut not a police officerSep 30 20:38
DaemonFC:)Sep 30 20:39
MinceRhttp://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120927/00320920527/former-copyright-boss-new-technology-should-be-presumed-illegal-until-congress-says-otherwise.shtmlSep 30 20:39
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MinceR"land of the free"!Sep 30 20:39
iophkhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/09/aaron-swartz-felony/all/Sep 30 20:39
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DaemonFCthe Indiana Troopers Association wanted me to give them a donation for state troopers "injured in the line of duty"Sep 30 20:39
DaemonFCI said "I'll donate some free advice...."Sep 30 20:40
DaemonFC"Teach them to quit driving recklessly and how to use their firearm so less of them kill themselves by accident with their own service weapon, and you can get the death rate down by 80%"Sep 30 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] ""GNU/Linux relies on Wine so it can say it has good apps." - Microsoft advocate "DFS" #windowsSep 30 20:40
DaemonFCyou go down the list of Indiana state police officers killed "in the line of duty" and most of them are traffic accidents or accidentally shot themselves or another officer.Sep 30 20:41
DaemonFCyou'd have less ISP fatalities if you disarmed the officersSep 30 20:42
DaemonFCdo what Andy Griffith did, let them carry around one bullet to make them feel like real police officersSep 30 20:42
DaemonFCbut don't allow them to chamber itSep 30 20:42
DaemonFCMinceR: In Pendleton a few weeks ago, one of the police officers let the dog loose to go attack a suspect, and it turned around and attacked and mauled another police officer insteadSep 30 20:43
DaemonFCand the officer that let the dog loose ended up having to shoot the dog to make it stopSep 30 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mobile OS #Tizen 2.0 moves to Alpha - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/FjyLNSep 30 20:44
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DaemonFCpolice officer mauled, police dog shot and killed, worthless redneck fucktard they were chasing shot and killed, and the guy even managed to shoot one of the other cops in the legSep 30 20:45
MinceRduhSep 30 20:45
MinceRdogs are dangerousSep 30 20:45
MinceRand it is unreasonable to keep them or use themSep 30 20:45
MinceRwhen will people learn?Sep 30 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Open #webOS 1.0 is ready - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/6101ISep 30 20:45
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DaemonFCyeah, but if you try kicking or macing hte police dog while it's trying to tear into you, it's "assault on a police officer"Sep 30 20:46
DaemonFCwhich is a felony with up to 20 yearsSep 30 20:46
MinceRfunSep 30 20:46
DaemonFCso they'll let the dog rip your face off and if you try to stop it, you can go to prison even if the original charges are droppedSep 30 20:46
DaemonFCand it turns out they sent the dog after you for no reasonSep 30 20:46
DaemonFCMinceR: I don't talk to police officers except when the law requires itSep 30 20:47
DaemonFCI don't tell them anything the law doesn't require me toSep 30 20:47
DaemonFCit's not just black people who should be afraid of the policeSep 30 20:47
DaemonFCit's everyone (but probably blacks more than whites)Sep 30 20:48
DaemonFCthey like to tell you the cops aren't racist, but almost every one of them actually isSep 30 20:48
*DaemonFC feels really uncomfortable using Google latelySep 30 20:49
DaemonFCtheir English search engine is becoming more like what you get if you're in ChinaSep 30 20:49
DaemonFCthe government asks Google to take down links that are neither copyright infringements nor criminal, and Google doesSep 30 20:49
DaemonFCthey just disappear them one daySep 30 20:50
DaemonFCit's much harder for them to do that with IxquickSep 30 20:50
DaemonFCand your searches aren't loggedSep 30 20:50
DaemonFCI noticed Google's new anti-piracy filter has kicked in and Ixquick is still giving me links Google used toSep 30 20:50
DaemonFCthe funny thing is that I need game cracks for games I boughtSep 30 20:51
DaemonFCbecause the stupid copy protection is stopping them from working in WineSep 30 20:51
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DaemonFCapparently Good Old Games is working with PlayOnLinux to make sure most of the stuff they hose has an installer scriptSep 30 20:52
DaemonFCthat's nice :)Sep 30 20:52
DaemonFCa lot of the stuff on GoG is so old that it never had DRM to begin withSep 30 20:52
DaemonFCI still have some of my original installer CDsSep 30 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 60 dents!Sep 30 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Estado deu benefícios fiscais a empresas de 2,6 mil milhões em dois anos | Económico http://goo.gl/2PHkD #pt #casinoSep 30 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] O que faz a empresa que recebe mais benefícios fiscais? - Renascença http://goo.gl/8KaP7 #pt #casinoSep 30 21:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1990779 http://twitter.com/jpetrise/statuses/252490045796265984Sep 30 21:30
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Socotra #Dragon #Tree ( #Dracaena #cinnabari ) ![t](http://pix.kegtux.org/images/2012/09/30/OHf8C.jpg) ![t](http://pix.kegtux.org/images/2012/09/30/8exiw.jpg) Boris KhvostichenkoSep 30 21:30
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/bsookman/statuses/252405242690404352Sep 30 21:30
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TechrightsBot-tr@jpetrise: More Open Source #Linux info for those  of you who are interested http://t.co/CxcAvFmsSep 30 21:30
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schestowitzsookman links to us...Sep 30 21:31
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/metacode/statuses/252390647405879296 http://twitter.com/spectrumgomas/statuses/252411549480796161Sep 30 21:32
TechrightsBot-tr@metacode: RT @schestowitz: Google y u so stupid? http://t.co/GpI7RqFz Still cannot get 1.4 GB of wedding photos due to stupid ISP throttling #congratsSep 30 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] olha um site que não quer que eu o visite!!! http://goo.gl/VMST0 pensei que já não se fazia disto!Sep 30 22:04
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE5NTUSep 30 22:15
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schestowitzso it's dead, O guessSep 30 22:45
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schestowitzDaemonFC: is phoronix accurate?Sep 30 22:52
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schestowitzit made claims about intel recently - ones that turned out to be falsSep 30 22:52
DaemonFCI don't knowSep 30 22:52
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DaemonFCBtrFS is not something I'm going to mess with again for a long timeSep 30 22:53
DaemonFCit didn't work so well last time I tried itSep 30 22:53
DaemonFCincredibly slowSep 30 22:53
DaemonFCGRUB doesn't like itSep 30 22:53
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DaemonFCdon't need the "advanced features" that badlySep 30 22:53
DaemonFCit also doesn't handle nearly-full partitions that wellSep 30 22:54
DaemonFCsometimes it gives ENOSPC when you have 20% of the partition's space leftSep 30 22:54
DaemonFC:)Sep 30 22:54
DaemonFCthat just reeks of bad design to meSep 30 22:54
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DaemonFCEdward Shishken (a Red Hat employee who maintains Reiser4) took a look at BtrFS and had many concernsSep 30 22:57
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DaemonFCI'm sure some of them are valid, but so much of the filesystem is already frozen that the only changes that can be made to it are ones where you load a new kernel and it converts the filesystem structure to the new formatSep 30 22:58
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DaemonFCthen you usually have problems mounting the filesystem with older kernelsSep 30 22:59
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