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schestowitz> Hi Roy,Nov 07 00:08
schestowitz> Nov 07 00:08
schestowitz> You are welcome to publish it, but please WITHOUT attribution as there isNov 07 00:08
schestowitz> no telling what some of these hoodlums would do.Nov 07 00:08
schestowitzOf course, I understand.. :-)Nov 07 00:08
schestowitz> P.S.  I think your Tech Rights website is one of the top ten news sourcesNov 07 00:08
schestowitz> on the web, and certainly among the top three IT sites:-)Nov 07 00:08
schestowitzThank you so much for the kind words. I wish we could cover more topics, we focus on a few that time permits me to cover (while working full time and spending time with the wife).Nov 07 00:08
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/oxbow_lakes/status/265940873643175936Nov 07 00:12
TechrightsSocial@oxbow_lakes: “@realDonaldTrump: The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”Nov 07 00:12
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/jdegoes/status/265898504071811073Nov 07 00:18
TechrightsSocial@jdegoes: US Elections: citizens cast a vote for one of two losers, hoping their chosen candidate will fuck up the country less than the last guy.Nov 07 00:18
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/importantshock/status/265905766005874688Nov 07 00:18
TechrightsSocial@importantshock: I wish there was a way to take action against the utter barbarism of drone strikes without ultimately empowering Romney.Nov 07 00:18
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/mjdominus/status/265867052827418624Nov 07 00:19
TechrightsSocial@mjdominus: Can't remember if I'm supposed to vote for the polygamist or the muslim.Nov 07 00:19
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/Arclite/status/265711382777958400Nov 07 00:20
TechrightsSocial@Arclite: Tomorrow I’m voting for '; DROP TABLE votes; --, the only real choice for America’s future.Nov 07 00:20
schestowitzqu1j0t3: dentdx2Nov 07 00:20
schestowitz> PS.  That troll DaemonFC has turned up again.  He was gone for a while.Nov 07 00:22
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/BorowitzReport/status/265568427194843136Nov 07 00:34
TechrightsSocial@BorowitzReport: We may lag behind China and India in math and science, but our political attack ads are the envy of the world.Nov 07 00:34
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/chrisrockozfan/status/265439842882703362Nov 07 00:35
TechrightsSocial@chrisrockozfan: Mitt Romney says 'the world' wants to see a new leader in the White House. BBC checked to see if that's true: #Forward http://t.co/5nlAnegfNov 07 00:35
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Twitter / chrisrockozfan: Mitt Romney says 'the world' ... .::. Size~: 173.83 KBNov 07 00:35
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/dff/status/265570407065718788Nov 07 00:37
TechrightsSocial@dff: Massachusetts "find my polling place" site requires Microsoft Silverlight to view map #polltax #votersuppression http://t.co/hKqg62EvNov 07 00:37
TechrightsSocial-> Title: MA Elections and Voting election information master page .::. Size~: 82.34 KBNov 07 00:37
XFaCEqu1j0t3: So what's up witht eh election?Nov 07 01:34
XFaCE[20:17] <TechrightsSocial> @dff: Massachusetts "find my polling place" site requires Microsoft Silverlight to view map #polltax #votersuppression http://t.co/hKqg62Ev {11/06/12 [07:37:37 PM]}Nov 07 01:34
XFaCElolNov 07 01:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: MA Elections and Voting election information master page .::. Size~: 82.34 KBNov 07 01:34
XFaCEVoter surpressionNov 07 01:34
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qu1j0t3XFaCE: nothing surprising?Nov 07 02:29
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/jenlkessler/status/266014114877423617Nov 07 03:37
TechrightsSocial@jenlkessler: Wait, both the rape guys lost? They were totally asking for it. #akin #mourdock #abortion #rape #Election2012Nov 07 03:37
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/AlexCarpenter/status/266011235127005184Nov 07 03:38
TechrightsSocial@AlexCarpenter: "The Rape guy lost" "Which one?" Your party has serious issues if people have to ask "Which one?" #GOP #itstheTwentyFirstCenturyNov 07 03:38
qu1j0t3come on Wil, tell us what you really think: https://twitter.com/wilw/status/266010321897005056Nov 07 03:38
TechrightsSocial@wilw: Don't feel too bad, Richard Mourdock. It's all part of God's plan for you to SHUT THE FUCK UP FOREVER YOU MISOGYNIST PIECE OF SHIT.Nov 07 03:38
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/strlen/status/266013736635092992Nov 07 03:39
TechrightsSocial@strlen: US election results are calculated with impressive speed, but in Belarus we can predict that Lukashenko will win years before an election.Nov 07 03:39
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/mjdominus/status/266018719073984512Nov 07 03:40
TechrightsSocial@mjdominus: BREAKING: Romney killed by surprise drone missile strike!Nov 07 03:40
schestowitzthese are funny. dentedNov 07 10:02
schestowitzThe latest episode of techbytes http://techrights.org/2012/11/06/techbytes-episode-77/Nov 07 10:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: TechBytes Episode 77: Greedy Car Thieves (GCT) and More | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.3 KBNov 07 10:30
schestowitz"Nov 07 11:53
schestowitzDr. Roy Schestowitz,Nov 07 11:53
schestowitzYou have a new follower on Twitter. Nov 07 11:53
schestowitzNokia UK "Nov 07 11:53
schestowitzweirdNov 07 11:53
schestowitzand they advertise windows phones in their accountNov 07 11:54
MinceRthey're afraid of you. :)Nov 07 12:05
schestowitzthat happened minutes after I had posted:Nov 07 12:14
schestowitz[11:13] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody The Irresistible Rise of Android -  http://bit.ly/RF3BA9  two data points - conclusive proofNov 07 12:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Irresistible Rise of Android - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 83.25 KBNov 07 12:14
schestowitzMinceR: I have an article coming about a troll that Nokia/Microsoft created to attack AndroidNov 07 12:15
schestowitzThey sued Google just mowNov 07 12:15
schestowitzvringoNov 07 12:15
schestowitzmaybe time to "Boycott Nokia"Nov 07 12:15
MinceRindeedNov 07 12:15
schestowitzfor sure?Nov 07 12:16
schestowitzno chance of them changing court?Nov 07 12:16
schestowitzcourseNov 07 12:16
MinceRdoubtfulNov 07 12:16
schestowitzok, then I have a post coming shortlyNov 07 12:16
MinceRif they wanted to, they would have already done so, imoNov 07 12:16
MinceRstarting with getting rid of the m$ moleNov 07 12:16
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abeNd-orgboycott nokia? their customers are pretty much doing that already :)Nov 07 12:22
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2012/11/07/boycott-nokia/Nov 07 12:26
TechrightsSocialTitle: Boycott Nokia! Vringo, an Anti-Android/Linux Proxy for Microsoft (Through Nokia), Attacks Google | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.45 KBNov 07 12:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2084139Nov 07 12:31
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #state #anarchy #libertarian #owsNov 07 12:31
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schestowitz"@RS - true. We also have anarchoindividualism, which has nothing to do with economy, money, etc. It's mostly about being individual."Nov 07 12:32
schestowitz"Nov 07 12:32
schestowitzit's not that it has nothing to do with economics, as you could interpret everything in an economic way, even physics (laws of thermodynamics etc). For example, you can see free sharing as a mutual agreement between individuals to not calculate and keep exact track of exchange between them. Today we largely do, and we know all the problems that come along with it (greed etc). So you could say the problem is that we invented Nov 07 12:32
schestowitzmath. ;)Nov 07 12:32
schestowitzAlso I would say that one aspect of individualism, especially in the anarchic way, is that every individual should be responsible for their own resources. This is a very economical perspective too.Nov 07 12:32
schestowitz"Nov 07 12:32
schestowitz"Nov 07 12:33
schestowitzWell, I'm far from connecting the dots this way. Economy was secondary to everything we know - life, human being, nature, evolution, universe etc. I know economy may seem overwhelming in this day and age, but it's still secondary. You can't do economy when you're dead, sick, etc. Ask Steve Jobs. He's no longer a participant of this economy. Not because he doesn't want to, but because death and life processes have more Nov 07 12:33
schestowitzimportance.Nov 07 12:33
schestowitzI actually see dangerous trend in putting stuff like language [philosophy of language, Wittgensten & Co], or money, economy [anarchocapitalism, Rothbard & Co] in a first place, while leaving all of the base stuff behind. To me that's illogical and it doesn't make much sense outside human society. I think it all comes from antrhopocentrism.Nov 07 12:33
schestowitz"Nov 07 12:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2084141Nov 07 12:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: How certain substances affect the aging process ![9gag](http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5769553_700b.jpg) http://9gag.com/gag/5769553Nov 07 12:33
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schestowitz"Gotta agree with you on that one."Nov 07 12:33
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2084139Nov 07 13:13
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #state #anarchy #libertarian #owsNov 07 13:13
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schestowitz"Nov 07 13:14
schestowitzI know what you mean, but still, what I was aiming to say is that if we presume we live in a material universe, it follows that resources are not infinite, and are thus quantifiable (also our precious time belongs to those resources). This is all that's required to construct an economic interpretation (which does not necessarily mean the form we and Steve Jobs have today). It's more a mathematic but anthropocentric thing.Nov 07 13:14
schestowitzFor me, the question is what we're gonna do with this understanding. I'm not for closing our eyes, blaming things on manipulative language (it rather goes back to math anyway, as said, which I claim is largely free from such degree of manipulation), or telling people fairy-tales of Santa Claus. That's counterproductive. We have to face reality as it is in order to improve it.Nov 07 13:14
schestowitz"Nov 07 13:14
schestowitzsome people find what's comforting a truth more nice to embrace, hence afterlife in the 21st century psycheNov 07 13:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2086260Nov 07 13:30
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux Foundation Sells Out (to Microsoft) http://techrights.org/2012/11/06/favours-from-lf/ #LinuxFoundation #linux #kernelNov 07 13:30
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Linux Foundation Sells Out (to Microsoft) | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.31 KBNov 07 13:30
schestowitz"LF is bribed"Nov 07 13:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2084545Nov 07 13:32
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Made in Hong Kong: Linux rising in China?  http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2012/11/made-in-hong-kong-linux-rising-in-china.html #hk #linuxNov 07 13:32
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Made in Hong Kong: Linux rising in China?  - Open Source Insider .::. Size~: 29.08 KBNov 07 13:32
schestowitz"<img src="http://mikeely.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/opensourceis_communism.jpg?w=350"><br> <a href="http://kasamaproject.org/2009/06/07/open-source-and-communism-lets-wade-in/">image source</a> "Nov 07 13:32
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2084130Nov 07 13:32
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![fail](https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/69718_301665676612880_868793372_n.jpg) #fail #hurricane #sandy #weather #finance #electricity #energy #people #politics #democracy #money #dollar #USA #government #NYNov 07 13:32
TechrightsSocialMissing content type. Ignoring.Nov 07 13:32
schestowitz"14 minutes of fame/media presence?"Nov 07 13:33
schestowitzgot a reminder of who's in chargeNov 07 13:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2083931 Nov 07 13:34
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Peace vs slavery https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_57bf1c4f558bbc281f7c.jpgNov 07 13:34
schestowitz"wonderful!"Nov 07 13:34
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schestowitz"but then I often ask myself: what are your sources… ;-)"Nov 07 13:34
schestowitzFB mentality relies on walled gardensNov 07 13:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2084139Nov 07 13:41
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #state #anarchy #libertarian #owsNov 07 13:41
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schestowitz"Nov 07 13:41
schestowitz@herzmeister - It's all clear now. When you think of it this way then yes, we can apply economy even to the base stuff in order to describe it in a new [and possibly fresh] way. Math ... that's a whole different story. Many struggles with it asking the question: is math universal? objective? etc. I don't know the answer and I wouldn't dare to say it is [or it isn't]. That's a tough question with no apparent answer. What is Nov 07 13:41
schestowitzmath anyway? is it a language to describe reality? or is it the underpinning laws of the universe? that's way beyond my comprehension.Nov 07 13:41
schestowitz@RS - so true.Nov 07 13:41
schestowitz"Nov 07 13:41
schestowitzanarchism seems to flourish thereNov 07 13:41
schestowitzdiasporaNov 07 13:41
schestowitzsome people whom Zuckerface apparently kicked outNov 07 13:41
schestowitzWhich in itself is disgustingNov 07 13:41
schestowitzshows what FB is really for..Nov 07 13:41
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/kjhealy/status/266162933363515392Nov 07 15:35
TechrightsSocial@kjhealy: So it’s Sharia + Communism on Mondays & Wednesdays, Gay Sex + Pot on Tuesdays & Thursdays, and Casual Flying Death Robot Fridays.Nov 07 15:35
qu1j0t3obama supporters are trying to convince themselves there is not a problemNov 07 15:35
qu1j0t3change postponed for 4 more yearsNov 07 15:35
qu1j0t3good work guysNov 07 15:35
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/UhsVmNov 07 15:36
TechrightsSocialTitle: To the Republicans who said they would move to Australia if Obama won... - Imgur .::. Size~: 23.22 KBNov 07 15:36
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I don't get that tweetNov 07 15:39
qu1j0t3it's meant to comment on the RW FUD: Obama is a Muslim, imposing Sharia, forcing everyone gay, and to smoke pot, and that he will send flying robots to kill you (the last part is true, which is why this election is such fail if Obama-ites are going to let go of such problems, as they will)Nov 07 15:41
qu1j0t3it's another postponement of change IOWNov 07 15:41
qu1j0t3wars, occupations, torture, plutocratic rule continueNov 07 15:41
schestowitzqu1j0t3: imposing Sharia is new to me as a smear, same one with the gay and pot promotionNov 07 16:36
qu1j0t3lol, it's not new :)Nov 07 16:36
schestowitzi can gather that, but never saw that used, not even onceNov 07 16:37
schestowitzobama is more open to some of those, but it's hardly cartoonish enoughNov 07 16:37
schestowitzthe drone thing is the only smear I see a lot ofNov 07 16:38
schestowitzor the "Muslim" thiingNov 07 16:38
schestowitzand drone dos not belong thereNov 07 16:38
schestowitzbecause unlike the rest it's a real issueNov 07 16:38
schestowitzwhich is why I generally didn't like that tweetNov 07 16:39
schestowitzlumping in GOP delusion with a real issue that obama is behindNov 07 16:39
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Android-vulnerability-allows-phishing-texts-1744596.htmlNov 07 16:40
TechrightsSocialTitle: Android vulnerability allows phishing texts - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 53.1 KBNov 07 16:40
qu1j0t3it is a serious problem that drones have been branded as a jokeNov 07 16:41
schestowitzin this case as a mythNov 07 16:42
schestowitzor lumped along with themNov 07 16:42
schestowitzWhen I first read it it stood 0ut to me as drones in a joke, along with total sarcasm about gay agenda, drugs, etc.Nov 07 16:43
schestowitzNone of those thing Obama is promoting, but the Friday thing is realNov 07 16:43
schestowitzand it's not just FridayNov 07 16:43
schestowitzit's 7 days a week, even Arab /Muslim holy daysNov 07 16:43
schestowitz!google christopher hitchens genital mutilation is not a jokeNov 07 16:44
TechrightsSocial[1] - Jewish Imam bitchslapped by Hitchens for circumcision joke ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DL4yS08N0xeUNov 07 16:44
TechrightsSocial[2] - Male Genital Mutilation Set to Continue in Australia - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D1MEMqOy8NYINov 07 16:44
TechrightsSocial[3] - onegoodmove: Lou Dobbs - Christopher Hitchens | http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/05/lou_dobbs_chris.htmlNov 07 16:44
TechrightsSocial[4] - On the Death of Christopher Hitchens: Obituary for an Atheist ... | http://www.algemeiner.com/2011/12/19/on-the-death-of-christopher-hitchens-obituary-for-an-atheist-propagandist-2/Nov 07 16:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2080717Nov 07 17:36
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: The real face of Anonymous behind the mask… #anonymous #funny #mask #pictureNov 07 17:36
TechrightsSocial  Photo by latomatemasquee@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_14fd9acd0fef3ccebfe0.jpgNov 07 17:36
schestowitz"Time Warner will be wanting their royalties soon..."Nov 07 17:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2086382Nov 07 17:36
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: And so it begins... #Steam #Ubuntu pic.twitter.com/4wTWBzEfNov 07 17:36
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schestowitz"I want that, too."Nov 07 17:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2088286Nov 07 21:36
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @kesara #Ubuntu is promoting/supporting non-free software, that is bad for free software movement.Nov 07 21:36
schestowitz"Is few years I boycott the Canonical product same Ubuntu. For now I use Arch Linux and Fedora"Nov 07 21:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2088370Nov 07 21:36
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ubuntu 12.10: Unity Just Sort of Grows on You http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Ubuntu-1210-Unity-Just-Sort-of-Grows-on-You-76556.html #gnu #linuxNov 07 21:36
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Linux News: Reviews: Ubuntu 12.10: Unity Just Sort of Grows on You .::. Size~: 14.75 KBNov 07 21:36
schestowitz"I hate Unity. Myself I prefer use XFCE"Nov 07 21:36
schestowitz"gnome-shell grew on me more than unity ever will. I started with XFCE. If I had to pick the true best D.E. especially in context of potential it would be Enlightenment E17"Nov 07 21:36
schestowitz"For E17 I not take the time to test it good. Posible in the future I will test it more in a virtual PC."Nov 07 21:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2088817Nov 07 22:09
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schestowitz"best pic ever."Nov 07 22:09
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/nwohashtag/status/266318622870360064Nov 07 23:35
TechrightsSocial@nwohashtag: [news] Expanded Conflict in Syria Promised by Romney Will Proceed Under Obama http://t.co/zftguqSC #nwoNov 07 23:35
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/LailaLalami/status/266318033142816768Nov 07 23:36
TechrightsSocial@LailaLalami: No break, not even for election night: a drone strike in Yemen killed "several individuals." Who were they? Why were they killed? No answer.Nov 07 23:36
schestowitzHow's that for a start?Nov 07 23:59
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