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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2116821 | Nov 19 00:00 |
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schestowitz | "Everyone isn't ewe?" | Nov 19 00:00 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't particularly like women. The only thing worse than women are children. | Nov 19 00:29 |
DaemonFC | Nobody really cares what men have to deal with. | Nov 19 00:29 |
DaemonFC | If a man hits a woman, there's the police, a shelter, and a 24-hour 800 number for that. | Nov 19 00:30 |
DaemonFC | If a woman hits a man, he just has to stand there and not do anything about it. | Nov 19 00:30 |
DaemonFC | Women know that. Women use that. | Nov 19 00:30 |
DaemonFC | Women use it as a "What the hell? I'm going to go psychotic on him and he can't do a thing about it! Hahaha!" | Nov 19 00:31 |
DaemonFC | Men do dangerous jobs and hard physical labor. | Nov 19 00:31 |
DaemonFC | Men are soldiers. | Nov 19 00:31 |
DaemonFC | Women go on Oprah and get told that being a mother is "the hardest job on the planet" | Nov 19 00:32 |
DaemonFC | All those poor women. Dying of black lung because they have the "hardest job in the world".... | Nov 19 00:32 |
DaemonFC | you know? | Nov 19 00:32 |
DaemonFC | At what point can you tell them that you don't care about their problems because nobody cares about yours? :) | Nov 19 00:33 |
schestowitz | I have a friend whose g/f for 14 years is hitting him sometimes | Nov 19 00:33 |
schestowitz | like scratching and stuff | Nov 19 00:33 |
schestowitz | they know they're immune to that unless the guy has temper | Nov 19 00:33 |
schestowitz | but it's not fair to generallise | Nov 19 00:33 |
schestowitz | there's a lot of the opposite | Nov 19 00:33 |
DaemonFC | we live in a reverse sexist society | Nov 19 00:34 |
DaemonFC | society hands women all the social services and listens to all their problems | Nov 19 00:34 |
DaemonFC | if a man has problems, he's weak, should be embarrassed | Nov 19 00:34 |
DaemonFC | it's like racism | Nov 19 00:35 |
DaemonFC | eventually there's white guilt and then the white guilt goes on much longer than the racism | Nov 19 00:36 |
DaemonFC | if there's one white racist for every 1,000 white people, then we still get to hear about racism being widespread | Nov 19 00:36 |
DaemonFC | more affirmative action is needed... | Nov 19 00:37 |
DaemonFC | affirmative action is causing racism at this point | Nov 19 00:37 |
DaemonFC | the womens rights movement is dragging on and bringing on its own negative stereotypes of women | Nov 19 00:38 |
DaemonFC | eventually, all the big problems are solved | Nov 19 00:38 |
DaemonFC | the movement goes on and starts nitpicking | Nov 19 00:39 |
DaemonFC | and it breeds more contempt than the quantity of problems it is solving | Nov 19 00:39 |
DaemonFC | I have a feeling that the gay rights movement will get there eventually | Nov 19 00:39 |
DaemonFC | right now, not so much | Nov 19 00:39 |
DaemonFC | plenty of fights left that need to be resolved | Nov 19 00:40 |
DaemonFC | the last big one is marriage | Nov 19 00:40 |
DaemonFC | that one is moving in the right direction | Nov 19 00:40 |
DaemonFC | 20 years from now, we'll have won that | Nov 19 00:40 |
DaemonFC | it'll be legal in every state | Nov 19 00:40 |
schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2012/11/11/equal-versus-identical/ | Nov 19 00:41 |
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DaemonFC | at that point, it could turn into the next NAACP or feminist movement or something | Nov 19 00:41 |
DaemonFC | all the battles are won, and the group goes on to be an embarrassing relic | Nov 19 00:42 |
DaemonFC | equal rights under the law for every citizen | Nov 19 00:43 |
DaemonFC | that's a great goal | Nov 19 00:43 |
DaemonFC | society falls short of that and needs to be prodded sometimes | Nov 19 00:43 |
DaemonFC | unfortunately, this can lead to overcompensation later on | Nov 19 00:44 |
DaemonFC | instead of "The landlord can't deny renters because they're black" you get "The landlord is too afraid to turn back ANY black renter, even if they have a bad credit score or a criminal record, or any number of other things that should disqualify a tenant." | Nov 19 00:45 |
DaemonFC | and then that becomes "The landlord has to have a certain percentage of black renters or else a government agency will go over him with a fine toothed comb." | Nov 19 00:45 |
DaemonFC | discrimination is hard to prove | Nov 19 00:46 |
DaemonFC | it's hard to disprove | Nov 19 00:47 |
schestowitz | "I don't think either one has been charged with 'truth telling' - you been reading the Fortean Times' again? www.massiah.eu " | Nov 19 00:47 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2116281 | Nov 19 00:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Restrictions to Internet free speech: #Assange and #Manning http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_11_16/Restrictions-to-Internet-free-speech-Assange-and-Manning/ truth-telling is a crime now? | Nov 19 00:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Restrictions to Internet free speech: Assange and Manning: Voice of Russia .::. Size~: 67.24 KB | Nov 19 00:47 |
DaemonFC | so it becomes a situation where a favored minority gets X number of rental homes to keep the government away, and this comes at the expense of other well-qualified renters | Nov 19 00:48 |
schestowitz | women sometimes get hired to meet quotas | Nov 19 00:48 |
schestowitz | or foreign students/workers, as well as racial groups | Nov 19 00:48 |
DaemonFC | yeah, diversity visa lotteries are such a crock | Nov 19 00:48 |
DaemonFC | the Catholic church is using them | Nov 19 00:48 |
DaemonFC | sponsoring employment visas | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2116143 | Nov 19 00:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @wikileaks Garzón: It would be illegal for Britain to arrest #Assange were he to need hospital care. http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/883551.html … | Nov 19 00:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: El Universal - El Mundo - Garzón pide respetar derechos humanos de Assange .::. Size~: 48.31 KB | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | " | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | No, it would not be illegal for Britain to areest the coward #Assange if he left the embassy for any reason - unless and until he becomes an Ecuadorian ANDis conferred diplomatic status. | Nov 19 00:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Tolkien's reply to German request for proof of his "aryan descent" bit.ly/RN3txr priceless! /via @asta_fish | Nov 19 00:49 | |
schestowitz | Wishful thinking does NOT make it true, however many idiots claim otherwise. Go ask a real lawyer. | Nov 19 00:49 |
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DaemonFC | they import people from Somalia or Uzbekistan so they can do minimum wage work for the church | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2116141 | Nov 19 00:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Assange and the Attack on the Republic of #Ecuador http://rixstep.com/2//20121115,00.shtml chasing the messenger | Nov 19 00:49 |
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schestowitz | " | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | Yes, I've noticed that wikileaks never leaks any sordid Ecuadorian truths. Maybe it IS perfect. | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | Not so sure the disappeared journos would agree. | Nov 19 00:49 |
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DaemonFC | they get out of hiring US citizens at a fair wage | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2116107 | Nov 19 00:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One wins the minds of the people by hurting exploitative "bastards" as #assange calls them while minimising harm to their victims | Nov 19 00:49 |
schestowitz | "The coward #Assange being the leading expert exploitative bastard, of course :o)" | Nov 19 00:49 |
DaemonFC | They import people that hate our guts and don't speak English and bring over members of criminal organizations so they can kill each other in Fort Wayne, Indiana, instead of Somalia | Nov 19 00:50 |
DaemonFC | and the more they do this crap, the more shootings you hear about in neighborhoods that never had that problem before | Nov 19 00:50 |
DaemonFC | and while they're here, they also get to hook themselves into public welfare programs meant for US citizens | Nov 19 00:51 |
schestowitz | http://www.examiner.com/article/julian-assange-calls-obama-a-wolf-sheep-s-clothing | Nov 19 00:51 |
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schestowitz | http://www.examiner.com/article/julian-assange-calls-obama-a-wolf-sheep-s-clothing | Nov 19 00:51 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange calls Obama 'a wolf in sheep's clothing' - National Blogosphere Buzz | Examiner.com .::. Size~: 63.27 KB | Nov 19 00:51 |
DaemonFC | those diversity visas are fucking ruining this country | Nov 19 00:51 |
schestowitz | is he calling obama a BLACK SHEEP? Racist!!! | Nov 19 00:51 |
DaemonFC | we're not bringing in rocket scientists | Nov 19 00:52 |
DaemonFC | we're importing minimum wage low skill workers if we're lucky | Nov 19 00:52 |
DaemonFC | and terrorists if we aren't | Nov 19 00:52 |
DaemonFC | and we shouldn't be allowing this when the unemployement rate is already so high | Nov 19 00:53 |
DaemonFC | but, businesses get whatever they want | Nov 19 00:53 |
DaemonFC | *unemployment | Nov 19 00:53 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2117224 | Nov 19 00:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hackers obtained access to #FreeBSD servers http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Hackers-obtained-access-to-FreeBSD-servers-1752060.html #bsd #unix | Nov 19 00:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Hackers obtained access to FreeBSD servers - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 52.69 KB | Nov 19 00:54 |
schestowitz | "Yeah, that sucks. IMHO they should have been using both keys and passwords. I suppose they were using only keys, which kinda sucks. Another thing is that having encrypted backups + checksums for all of your system files and encrypted backups is a must when you run such a huge project ... But well, what do I know?" | Nov 19 00:54 |
DaemonFC | diversity visa is really just a euphemism for "Janitor" | Nov 19 00:54 |
DaemonFC | that's all it is | Nov 19 00:54 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2116831 | Nov 19 00:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Caption needed http://www.kiepy.pl/uploads/2012_10/02/48121_3607_500_Nie-Chce-Cie-Znac.gif | Nov 19 00:54 |
schestowitz | "How about: "hey you!"" | Nov 19 00:55 |
schestowitz | lol | Nov 19 00:55 |
schestowitz | jabba | Nov 19 00:55 |
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DaemonFC | taking in a bunch of foreign students | Nov 19 00:55 |
DaemonFC | teaching them how to replace us | Nov 19 00:55 |
DaemonFC | not in our national interest, but businesses that want to fire us and and outsource love it | Nov 19 00:55 |
DaemonFC | so they get it | Nov 19 00:55 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: The same policies have already fucked over the UK | Nov 19 00:56 |
DaemonFC | and continue to do so | Nov 19 00:56 |
DaemonFC | when you're talking about a GDP growth of 0.2%, you're in trouble | Nov 19 00:57 |
DaemonFC | I think Stallman was blaming austerity, but the real reason was decades of bad government policies that have made the country's economy less relevant and given employers free reign to take jobs wherever they want | Nov 19 00:58 |
DaemonFC | austerity is hurting because it was guzzling up tons of borrowed money to create an appearance of prosperity | Nov 19 00:58 |
DaemonFC | when that's gone, the real situation emerges | Nov 19 00:58 |
DaemonFC | the only kind of worker revolt that is going to work is to refuse to reproduce | Nov 19 01:01 |
DaemonFC | the people who have the most kids are the dumbest bunch you'd ever want to see | Nov 19 01:02 |
DaemonFC | like those people the landlord kicked out this week | Nov 19 01:03 |
DaemonFC | can't hold down jobs, on the welfare system, and they're having kids | Nov 19 01:03 |
DaemonFC | like they can't figure out where they're all coming from | Nov 19 01:03 |
schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=a_call_for_better_physics_education&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Nov 19 01:04 |
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schestowitz | does the US still teach with imperial metrics stuff like physics | Nov 19 01:04 |
schestowitz | [01:02] <DaemonFC> the people who have the most kids are the dumbest bunch you'd ever want to see | Nov 19 01:05 |
schestowitz | it's not always the parents who suffer | Nov 19 01:05 |
schestowitz | it can be the impoverished kids | Nov 19 01:05 |
schestowitz | some won't be getting higher education, job, etc. | Nov 19 01:05 |
DaemonFC | Everything in grade school is still in US Customary Units | Nov 19 01:05 |
schestowitz | So in a sense a lot of the toll goes on the kid, notthe parent | Nov 19 01:05 |
DaemonFC | they go over the metric system so fast that most people really didn't learn it | Nov 19 01:05 |
DaemonFC | if they did, most of them never use it, so they just forget it | Nov 19 01:05 |
schestowitz | the government often gives some handouts to make sure the kids don't starve and that they have a roof over their heads | Nov 19 01:05 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: but what about physics classes? | Nov 19 01:06 |
DaemonFC | both systems | Nov 19 01:06 |
DaemonFC | the US has a hybrid system where metric is used for healthcare and in the food industry, but US Customary Units are all that most people use | Nov 19 01:08 |
schestowitz | very stupid | Nov 19 01:08 |
schestowitz | retards the youth | Nov 19 01:08 |
DaemonFC | calling it the "imperial system" isn't quite right | Nov 19 01:09 |
schestowitz | i think NASA uses metrics | Nov 19 01:09 |
schestowitz | metric | Nov 19 01:09 |
DaemonFC | US measurements use the same names but are actually defined differently | Nov 19 01:09 |
schestowitz | it's called imperial here and it's similar | Nov 19 01:09 |
DaemonFC | yeah, ever since the Mars probe that crashed | Nov 19 01:09 |
schestowitz | ouches here are not the same though | Nov 19 01:09 |
DaemonFC | JPL was using metric, NASA wasn't | Nov 19 01:09 |
schestowitz | nasa seems to hire many foreign students who graduated, so they know metric | Nov 19 01:10 |
schestowitz | now they go back home to nations like CHina perhaps, using that knowledge to make rockets for the red army :-) | Nov 19 01:11 |
schestowitz | nasa must have had massive layoffs | Nov 19 01:11 |
schestowitz | but it's not a publicly traded company or anything | Nov 19 01:11 |
DaemonFC | yeah | Nov 19 01:11 |
DaemonFC | not just NASA, mostly private contractors | Nov 19 01:12 |
schestowitz | nasa will always have former nazi icons like von braun and his comrades to brag about.. | Nov 19 01:12 |
DaemonFC | a lot of people that were working on the shuttle program were so old, they just went ahead and retired | Nov 19 01:12 |
schestowitz | the rockets in Germany were kind of in the rocks after Hitler blew his brains out | Nov 19 01:13 |
schestowitz | some former german intel services officers, very well informed people, became among the roots of the CIA | Nov 19 01:13 |
schestowitz | No wonder the CIA often acts like a bunch of Naxzis | Nov 19 01:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Too much... http://ur1.ca/b2hqw | Nov 19 01:32 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vendetta masks declared illegal in #UAE http://ur1.ca/b2hwi war on faces | Nov 19 01:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thugs http://ur1.ca/b2i2e | Nov 19 01:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happiness http://ur1.ca/b2i7y | Nov 19 01:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Black hole found on earth http://ur1.ca/b2ib0 | Nov 19 01:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] aren't they welcome to contribute? :-) ♻ @schestowitz: Hackers obtained access to FreeBSD servers http://ur1.ca/b08uv | Nov 19 01:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Best Driving Games and Car #Games on #Linux http://ur1.ca/b2iy9 | Nov 19 01:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Texas http://ur1.ca/b2iyn | Nov 19 01:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's Exciting About FreeBSD 9.1: Intel KMS http://ur1.ca/b2iz5 #bsd #intel #kms | Nov 19 01:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: open letter to Rep. Joe Kennedy on seizing the © initiative - http://bit.ly/XSyhBT more USians need to write similar letter | Nov 19 01:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reporting using #drones but not about drones http://ur1.ca/b2j0x | Nov 19 01:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With #drones "U.S. is not even following its own laws" http://ur1.ca/b2j1s | Nov 19 01:50 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/97960191 | Nov 19 01:52 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Monday, 19-Nov-12 01:41:41 UTC - Identi.ca: aren't they welcome to contribute? :-) ♻ @schestowitz: Hackers obtained access to FreeBSD servers http://ur1.ca/b08uv | Nov 19 01:52 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSBBC has published "Phone patents: An absurd battle", but the page jusy vanished. Can't search for that in site, either. | Nov 19 01:57 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118690 | Nov 19 01:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #obama still supports #drone and attacks #wikileaks but always secretly for #pr reasons http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/julian-assange-labels-obama-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/story-fnd134gw-1226512743231 | Nov 19 01:58 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lurk no more http://ur1.ca/b2jka #censorship - where learning about a problem becomes forbidden too, letting the problem be | Nov 19 01:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Social' sites used against one in court http://ur1.ca/b2joe | Nov 19 02:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #vista8 annoys users http://ur1.ca/b2jrg | Nov 19 02:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "How do I hate thee Windows 8? Let me count the ways." http://ur1.ca/b2jtv #vista8 | Nov 19 02:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come" bit.ly/ZVdTPP | Nov 19 02:22 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118719 | Nov 19 02:27 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "How do I hate thee Windows 8? Let me count the ways." http://www.zdnet.com/what-not-to-buy-on-black-friday-windows-8-pcs-and-laptops-7000007557/ #vista8 | Nov 19 02:27 |
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schestowitz | " | Nov 19 02:27 |
schestowitz | wrote a little rant about Windows the other day because someone wondered why some obvious feature had not been implemented. The answer is that Windows works for Microsoft at the user's expense. I think I'll share here. Cheers. | Nov 19 02:27 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118739 | Nov 19 02:27 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: Someone asked me why Microsoft had not implemented an obvious feature. It's because Windows works for Microsoft's owners, not you. That's the point on non free software and it's also why you should avoid it. The list of things Microsoft does not provide is tremendous. Virtual desktops, a choice of desktops, file systems that don't corrupt themselves, real user privilege separation, shells with paths that work, san | Nov 19 02:27 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #WIPO trying to bring imaginary property shenanigans to #Africa - because it's not fucked up enough yet, apparently! bit.ly/WnnizV | Nov 19 02:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Gotta watch (pun intended) out for those terr'sts! bit.ly/T5O4HJ #USA #LandOftheScared | Nov 19 03:42 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxIRAAIFDRDZT4 | Nov 19 03:57 |
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DaemonFC | Walmart is threatening to fire any workers that picket during the Black Friday sale | Nov 19 04:47 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kxra/@kxra] Is the term "free culture" too libertarian/neoliberal? http://www.ur1.ca/b31j4 !sfc #freeculture | Nov 19 08:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kxra/@kxra] RT @jackieklaura Today a whole track on Feminism was/is presented at the FSCON 2013 - #freesoftware #freeculture #freesociety. Read/watc ... | Nov 19 08:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WorldBank's Climate Change Report Warns of Dramatically Warmer World This Century - http://bit.ly/Tb1fco well, well, well | Nov 19 08:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 121118 - http://bit.ly/TM07s1 yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDD | Nov 19 08:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Africa: Let's Re-Examine AU Intellectual Property Stance - http://bit.ly/Wo9LIi sensible stuff | Nov 19 08:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WIPO Copyright Committee (SCCR 25) begins week of negotiations. Treaties for disabilities and broadcasting are focus - http://bit.ly/XriD1q | Nov 19 08:40 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WIPO Copyright Committee (SCCR 25) begins week of negotiations. Treaties for disabilities and broadcasting are focus | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 18.68 KB | Nov 19 08:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #EFSA: A playground of the biotech industry? - http://bit.ly/S5bP51 more criticism of this flawed organisation | Nov 19 08:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Obama visit: Activists take #TPP protest to airport - http://bit.ly/T6fwoz good to see awareness of the issues in #thailand | Nov 19 08:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fraud fighter: 'Faked research is endemic in #China' - http://bit.ly/S5dwPJ brave chap | Nov 19 09:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The online highway code: 3 simple rules to solve the internet - http://bit.ly/UPGrKO "Think of it as a crowd-sourced version of Dignitas." | Nov 19 09:07 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The online highway code: three simple rules to solve the internet | Charlie Brooker | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 305.73 KB | Nov 19 09:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PM to crackdown on 'time-wasting' appeals - http://bbc.in/TM1SWd er, aren't those "time-wasting appeals" what we call democratic discussion? | Nov 19 09:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Collecting Societies To Adopt Minimum Standards - http://bit.ly/ZWQi1j about time, no? | Nov 19 09:15 | |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/m0n0lithic/statuses/270378490937884672 | Nov 19 09:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @m0n0lithic: Fe de Errata: Chris Mason (btrfs main developer) abandonó Oracle hace ya mas de 5 meses http://t.co/kYk61RcD | Nov 19 09:16 |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/filipesaraiva/statuses/270342208979337216 | Nov 19 09:17 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @filipesaraiva: RT @lxoliva aren't they welcome to contribute? :-) ♻ @schestowitz: Hackers obtained access to FreeBSD servers http://t.co/lo9FhZpI | Nov 19 09:17 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/usernm/statuses/270344148811411456 | Nov 19 09:17 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | @usernm: This made my day. RT @schestowitz: Too much... http://t.co/DgrJjFmi | Nov 19 09:17 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118739# | Nov 19 09:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: Someone asked me why Microsoft had not implemented an obvious feature. It's because Windows works for Microsoft's owners, not you. That's the point on non free software and it's also why you should avoid it. The list of things Microsoft does not provide is tremendous. Virtual desktops, a choice of desktops, file systems that don't corrupt themselves, real user privilege separation, shells with paths that work, san | Nov 19 09:19 |
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schestowitz | @ | Nov 19 09:19 |
schestowitz | I just started a job where we use XP computers. (It's the first job I've had that's not manual labor.) I find that one of my motivating forces for getting through the day is the fact that I get to come home and use my Linux box. | Nov 19 09:19 |
schestowitz | I just want to edit the fucking config file for the stupid program we're using. Oh yeah, and set up a forchrissake swap partition so we don't have to reboot twice a day. Damn, it's infuriating. | Nov 19 09:19 |
schestowitz | @ | Nov 19 09:19 |
schestowitz | @Wait till they make you use Outlook. When I run into those problems, I just try to do the job and not let other people's bad decisions get me down. Often, the people making those bad decisions are trapped by the bad decisions of vendors. I've got plenty of that at my job, where the bad decision was to load medical equipment, costing millions of dollars, with Microsoft. My job, actually, is to independently verify everything and never | Nov 19 09:20 |
schestowitz | to just trust the software or the machine.@ | Nov 19 09:20 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Artificial happiness http://ur1.ca/b35wp | Nov 19 09:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Creating wealth http://ur1.ca/b366l | Nov 19 09:35 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118719 | Nov 19 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "How do I hate thee Windows 8? Let me count the ways." http://www.zdnet.com/what-not-to-buy-on-black-friday-windows-8-pcs-and-laptops-7000007557/ #vista8 | Nov 19 09:36 |
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schestowitz | "Pay to see ads... The acceleration of the velocity at which they dumbed down since I last saw a windows pc is tremendous." | Nov 19 09:36 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118686 | Nov 19 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Best Driving Games and Car #Games on #Linux http://linuxaria.com/article/the-best-driving-games-and-car-games-on-linux?lang=en | Nov 19 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: » Linuxaria – Everything about GNU/Linux and Open source The Best Driving Games and Car Games on Linux .::. Size~: 71.39 KB | Nov 19 09:37 |
MinceR | geekings | Nov 19 09:37 |
schestowitz | "STK is awesome and funny as anything I've found in a long time" | Nov 19 09:37 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Whitewashing #Drones http://ur1.ca/b36ie http://ur1.ca/b36if | Nov 19 09:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Openwashinh #Drones http://ur1.ca/b36ja (Drone security project to go open source) | Nov 19 09:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Border agency looks to expand drone aircraft fleet http://ur1.ca/b36m9 using robots to control society | Nov 19 09:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Decapitation by #drone losing effectiveness http://ur1.ca/b36oa "DRONE STRIKES NEED OUR ATTENTION" http://ur1.ca/b36od | Nov 19 09:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Still Alive and Well: #DamnSmall #Linux http://ur1.ca/b36wo #gnu | Nov 19 09:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lead #Compiz Developer Leaves Canonical To Persue Education http://ur1.ca/b370q #ubuntu | Nov 19 09:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Banco de Portugal quer que o governador seja escolhido pelo Presidente da República http://goo.gl/rbkwM #pt | Nov 19 09:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A trip down memory lane http://ur1.ca/b37n8 #kde | Nov 19 10:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Precise Puppy 5.4.1 http://ur1.ca/b37yy nice distro for old hardware | Nov 19 10:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Relicensing #VLC to the #LGPL the hard way http://ur1.ca/ax52l !fsf | Nov 19 10:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #XBMC Media Center 12.0 Beta Out, Ships With #Android Support http://ur1.ca/b38fi #linux | Nov 19 10:19 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Government Campaign Against Whistleblowers and Electronic Robin Hoods http://ur1.ca/b38la #obama protects the criminals | Nov 19 10:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "This year alone, the U.S. military has launched 333 drones in Afghanistan." http://ur1.ca/b0edc daily #assassination (inc. bystanders) | Nov 19 10:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Italian Catholic Church to pay property tax from next year http://ur1.ca/b38p0 no special treatment anymore | Nov 19 10:24 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118643 | Nov 19 10:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Vendetta masks declared illegal in #UAE http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/vendetta-masks-declared-illegal-in-uae.html war on faces | Nov 19 10:24 |
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schestowitz | "I prefer to die rather than fall to my knees and lick their boots." | Nov 19 10:24 |
MinceR | meanwhile, they force women to hide their faces | Nov 19 10:25 |
MinceR | barbarians | Nov 19 10:25 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2116862 | Nov 19 10:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I have finally managed to save my #Palm Tungsten, for now... almost 10 years in use now. Those things sure are durable... | Nov 19 10:25 |
schestowitz | MinceR: easier than makeup ;-) | Nov 19 10:26 |
schestowitz | MinceR: I like it when those women defend it | Nov 19 10:26 |
MinceR | makeup is optional | Nov 19 10:26 |
schestowitz | Like, I "wear it cause I want to" | Nov 19 10:26 |
schestowitz | Like the slave defence | Nov 19 10:26 |
MinceR | :> | Nov 19 10:26 |
schestowitz | Thank you God for saving my life (while killing all my family in the car accident I survived) | Nov 19 10:27 |
schestowitz | Thank you God for leaving me an arm, while taking away 2 legs and an arm | Nov 19 10:27 |
schestowitz | always look at the quarter of the glass that's full | Nov 19 10:27 |
schestowitz | "I am not a slave" | Nov 19 10:27 |
schestowitz | "I am happy this way" | Nov 19 10:27 |
schestowitz | "My clothes don't oppress me" | Nov 19 10:28 |
schestowitz | It's self-inflected | Nov 19 10:28 |
schestowitz | "I don't go to work because I'm forced to..." | Nov 19 10:28 |
schestowitz | "My expectation is that all computer hardware should last 10 years. My experience has been that workstations do -- but maybe not laptops. I still have a sharp wizzard that works ok. I have a book reading with an embedded battery -- I'm worried the battery will need replacing in 3 years list most li batteries." | Nov 19 10:28 |
schestowitz | " | Nov 19 10:28 |
schestowitz | My HandSpring Visor took a fall once. I replaced the screen and still use it every day. | Nov 19 10:28 |
schestowitz | http://173.21.69.124/photo_album/chron/2006/2006_07_29_drop_handspring/ | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | My Thinkpad 760LD from 1995 still works but has a dead battery and is mostly useless for lack of RAM and processor. | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | http://173.21.69.124/photo_album/chron/2002/2002_08_09_Quebec_trip/slide_052.html http://173.21.69.124/photo_album/chron/2002/2002_08_09_Quebec_trip/slide_131.html | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | This Thinkpad 560 was still working at 10 years of age, http://173.21.69.124/photo_album/chron/desktop/2005_12_21-thinkpad_560-simply_mepis_3.3.2/ | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | My 1998 Thinkpad 600 also has a dead battery but is actually usable. http://173.21.69.124/photo_album/chron/desktop/2011_09_04-thinkpad_600_squeeze/ | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | My 2002 Thinkpad X30 is still working well. | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | http://173.21.69.124/photo_album/chron/desktop/2012_03_21-x30_rides_again/ | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | I recently put a drive with a botched Wheezy install on it. That too worked well, but I'd rather do a clean install before writing it up. | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | " | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | "As much as I like Thinkpads, Lenovo made the mistake of passing along Microsoft's restricted boot. That changes everything. It's unclear if this was Lenovo's fault but it was a bad sign." | Nov 19 10:29 |
schestowitz | Lenovo is said to have gained some share too | Nov 19 10:29 |
iophk | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2225564/uk-government-is-going-headlong-for-internet-filtering | Nov 19 10:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UK government is going headlong for internet filtering- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.58 KB | Nov 19 10:31 |
oiaohm | MinceR: really they might have found method to get the ladies head dress made illegal. | Nov 19 10:32 |
oiaohm | MinceR: just protest with it on. | Nov 19 10:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For a short moment there (1 day) one faction of the Business Party tried to deviate on #copyright mandate, got blackmailed back. | Nov 19 10:32 | |
oiaohm | schestowitz: currenting in the PC market is dog eat dog market. | Nov 19 10:32 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: the market size has not expanded so they only way Lenovo can gain share is eat someone elses. | Nov 19 10:33 |
MinceR | oiaohm: :D | Nov 19 10:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2008: 60 Minutes: Obama Reiterates Promise To Close Guantanamo Bay, End Torture http://ur1.ca/b3988 liar. He also added drones. | Nov 19 10:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I said repeatedly that we don't torture" ~Obama, 2008. I guess hellfire from drones every day is not torture, it's jus http://ur1.ca/b39a0 | Nov 19 10:35 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Creative Commons or the GPL that would allow people to use, modify, and enhance the recipes?" http://ur1.ca/b39cv | Nov 19 10:35 | |
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MinceR | it's not torture if it kills quickly :> | Nov 19 10:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In the #uk it is lawful (and actively practised in secret) to punish entire family for one member's actions. The Nazis http://ur1.ca/b39fw | Nov 19 10:37 | |
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oiaohm | MinceR: and schestowitz you missed it. http://techland.time.com/2011/09/23/scientists-can-almost-read-your-mind-turn-thoughts-into-movies/ | Nov 19 10:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Scientists Can (Almost) Read Your Mind, Turn Thoughts into Movies | TIME.com .::. Size~: 59.39 KB | Nov 19 10:37 |
oiaohm | In a very short time we will not need torture | Nov 19 10:38 |
oiaohm | We just strap you into a MRI machine and question you and read your mind. | Nov 19 10:38 |
schestowitz | MRI for mind? | Nov 19 10:38 |
oiaohm | We were just doing medical assessment. | Nov 19 10:38 |
schestowitz | No, it shows brain strcture | Nov 19 10:38 |
schestowitz | it doesn't do nueron analysis | Nov 19 10:38 |
schestowitz | you could not even use MRI as polygraph | Nov 19 10:39 |
MinceR | there's fMRI | Nov 19 10:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Obama fought to protect criminals from the public more than predecessors, also legalising assassination of US citizens (NDAA). | Nov 19 10:39 | |
MinceR | tells you how active certain parts of the brain are | Nov 19 10:39 |
schestowitz | polygraph is mostly a placebo, it's the belief that it works which makes it sot of work sometimes | Nov 19 10:39 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: that link is using a form of MRI to read brain activity. | Nov 19 10:39 |
schestowitz | MinceR: not MRI | Nov 19 10:39 |
schestowitz | you can put electrodes to the brain | Nov 19 10:39 |
MinceR | fMRI is MRI | Nov 19 10:39 |
schestowitz | or maybe inject a contract agent | Nov 19 10:39 |
MinceR | look it up :> | Nov 19 10:40 |
oiaohm | No | Nov 19 10:40 |
schestowitz | on its own, MRI doesn't show much | Nov 19 10:40 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: fMRI you don't inject any agent. | Nov 19 10:40 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: its working both ways. | Nov 19 10:40 |
schestowitz | fMRI is an extension of the usual procedre | Nov 19 10:40 |
MinceR | yes, and it sees how the blood flows in your brain | Nov 19 10:40 |
MinceR | which is regulated as necessary | Nov 19 10:41 |
MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMRI | Nov 19 10:41 |
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oiaohm | fMRI is better able to detect lieing than a lie detector. | Nov 19 10:41 |
oiaohm | Because its able to see what section of brain the memory is comming from. | Nov 19 10:41 |
MinceR | hm, apparently not only blood flow | Nov 19 10:41 |
MinceR | also oxygenation status | Nov 19 10:41 |
schestowitz | a fellow prof tols me that mri with contract agents can induce cancer | Nov 19 10:44 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Canaima 3.1 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/b39qp #gnu #linux for Americans | Nov 19 10:44 | |
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schestowitz | which was new to me, I couldn't verify this claim | Nov 19 10:44 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: his claim is valid but misses the fine detail. | Nov 19 10:44 |
oiaohm | Adding anything abnormal to the human body can induce cancer if your DNA in your design that it runs into. | Nov 19 10:45 |
MinceR | afaik MRI is very rarely if ever done with contrast agents | Nov 19 10:45 |
oiaohm | contrast agents have risks. | Nov 19 10:46 |
MinceR | the radio frequency pulse is flexible enough to do all sorts of weighting | Nov 19 10:46 |
MinceR | without contrast agents | Nov 19 10:46 |
oiaohm | Really our dna testing is not good enough to tell us what humans are safe to have most of the contrast agents. | Nov 19 10:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wikileaks brings justice to the world http://ur1.ca/b3a0e | Nov 19 10:49 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: allAfrica.com: Zimbabwe: Mining Boss to Pay Millions Over Wikileaks Diamond Looting Claim .::. Size~: 82.19 KB | Nov 19 10:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft rats out alleged WikiLeaks supporter without waiting for court warrant http://ur1.ca/b3a2y | Nov 19 10:50 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Skype rats out alleged WikiLeaks supporter without waiting for court warrant — RT .::. Size~: 51.75 KB | Nov 19 10:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "WikiLeaks criticised regulations it said had led to abuse and impunity and urged human rights activists..." http://ur1.ca/b3a4j | Nov 19 10:52 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118714 "They do this to drive people to Microsoft's third rate web services." | Nov 19 10:52 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks says releases hacked U.S. detainee rules | Reuters .::. Size~: 75.86 KB | Nov 19 10:52 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #vista8 annoys users http://mrpogson.com/2012/11/18/sinofsky-on-file-management/ | Nov 19 10:52 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2117079 | Nov 19 10:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Vista 8 is Not Selling, But Microsoft’s #UEFI Scheme Blocks #Linux Installations/Booting http://techrights.org/2012/11/18/blocking-gnu-linux-in-oems/ #vista8 #windows | Nov 19 10:53 |
schestowitz | " | Nov 19 10:53 |
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schestowitz | "For now, if you want to run Fedora on these systems you’re probably best off changing the firmware to perform a legacy boot." | Nov 19 10:53 |
schestowitz | Anyone got a HOWTO to change firmware and all that? I think that's the stuff that is really needed, rather than trying to work around the existing firmware. It means we will be better armed for future tricks of the same nature. | Nov 19 10:53 |
schestowitz | " | Nov 19 10:53 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: try using windows 8 downgrade rights to install windows 7 | Nov 19 10:53 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: yes call up asking todo downgrade rights with some execuse and have them walk you threw setting up legacy boot. | Nov 19 10:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Math dance http://ur1.ca/b3afe | Nov 19 10:57 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119336 | Nov 19 11:00 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Someone asked me why Microsoft had not implemented an obvious feature. It's because Windows works for Microsoft's owners, not you. That's the point on non free software and it's also why you should avoid it. The list of things Microsoft does not provide is tremendous. Virtual desktops, a choice of desktops, file systems that don't corrupt themselves, real user privilege separation, shells with paths th | Nov 19 11:00 |
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schestowitz | "Idea for new feature: Upload everything to the Cloud automatically, so Bing can find your stuff." | Nov 19 11:00 |
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schestowitz | Let's not give Canonical ideas !! | Nov 19 11:01 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2118702 | Nov 19 11:01 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: MSBBC has published "Phone patents: An absurd battle", but the page jusy vanished. Can't search for that in site, either. | Nov 19 11:01 |
schestowitz | "Can't piss off the people who fund your operation, I guess." | Nov 19 11:01 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119346 | Nov 19 11:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://goo.gl/K5W5B) #Image #Picture #Science #BlackHole - Black holes defy the very laws of #physics and devour anything that gets in their way. These cosmic destroyers are objects of infinite density compacted into a very small space. - http://goo.gl/jK6Rq - http://goo.gl/GJ1nv http://goo.gl/K5W5B | Nov 19 11:02 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: All About Black Holes: Formation & Discovery| Black Hole Facts & Information | Space.com .::. Size~: 41.34 KB | Nov 19 11:02 |
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schestowitz | "It's worth noting that inside black hole time probobly stops [or doesn't exist]. The more you approach black hole, the slower is ticking your clock, and your body is being elongated" | Nov 19 11:02 |
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oiaohm | schestowitz: the time one is all a question of how we measure time | Nov 19 11:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jeżeli Chomikuj jest serwisem "pirackim", powinna się nim zajać Marynarka Wojenna. bit.ly/TM9zvDbit.ly/TM9zvD /via @piorekf | Nov 19 11:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “They knew everything about me... every word I said through Skype.” http://ur1.ca/b3blq #syria #skype #microsoft #windows #backdoor | Nov 19 11:24 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Hackers of Damascus - Businessweek .::. Size~: 56.7 KB | Nov 19 11:24 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] International Organization Finds U.S. Violating the Rights of Protestors http://ur1.ca/awdv7 not just the US... | Nov 19 11:25 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Take note of when reporters tell you that the latest violence "started."' http://ur1.ca/b3bpf | Nov 19 11:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Worrying reading. Is this what happens week after international spotlight is turned off? Anyone know more? #Azerbaijan... | Nov 19 11:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Now the power is yours! - http://bit.ly/S9cG2T another rather bizarre video from the European Commission (v @asteris @BrunoBrussels) | Nov 19 11:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] let's hope it's not withdrawn like the republican copyright proposal.... | Nov 19 11:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So, e'rryone that lives in Kasa put your hands up. Tired of running into you fuckers off guard! :-) Love y'all! | Nov 19 11:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And if you're one of my students don't say hi or nothing. I don't like you guys, I just lecture you. :-) | Nov 19 11:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] But Does It Copy Macrovision, I Mean, Run Linux? http://ur1.ca/b36tp #linux #macrovision | Nov 19 11:42 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Attacks on Seralini "about large sums of money" - http://bit.ly/TbfQ8H "Séralini chose the same strain of rat as Monsanto." good interview | Nov 19 11:42 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: But Does It Copy Macrovision, I Mean, Run Linux? | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 31.52 KB | Nov 19 11:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Earth's history http://ur1.ca/b3cou | Nov 19 11:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolaborg SyncKolab 3.0.0 was released. It now also synchronizes your contacts and calenders from #Thunderbird with #Kolab 3 http://b ... | Nov 19 11:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nobel laureates slam the US over #BradleyManning case http://ur1.ca/b3cxj Can't be dismissed as just "anti-American" | Nov 19 11:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Legacy of Linus Torvalds: Linux, Git, and One Giant Flamethrower - http://bit.ly/UCgpod the 3rd #linus interview in a couple of weeks... | Nov 19 11:52 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Legacy of Linus Torvalds: Linux, Git, and One Giant Flamethrower | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 122.13 KB | Nov 19 11:52 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119627 | Nov 19 11:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Documents Obtained from #WikiLeaks Twitter Account to Remain Under Seal http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/new-wikileaks-order-shows-probe-ongoing justice for whom? | Nov 19 11:55 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ray #Kurzweil on the future of work: Lifelong learning and an #opensource economy http://ur1.ca/b3d9q interesting mention of Open Source | Nov 19 11:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prime Minister misses the point on judicial reviews - http://bit.ly/WoK3U3 intentionally, no doubt #democracy | Nov 19 11:57 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ray Kurzweil on the future of work: Lifelong learning and an open source economy | MedCity News .::. Size~: 85 KB | Nov 19 11:57 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chumby inventor, Huang. to keynote at #LCA http://ur1.ca/b3dcx #openhardware | Nov 19 11:59 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Study on free, #opensource software in governance http://ur1.ca/b3dfw #india | Nov 19 12:00 | |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119474 | Nov 19 12:02 |
schestowitz | "Open Source is communism, isn't it?" | Nov 19 12:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: #Canaima 3.1 Screenshots http://chrishaney.com/?linux&release=Canaima%203.1 #gnu #linux for Americans | Nov 19 12:02 |
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schestowitz | "No, open source is freedom." | Nov 19 12:02 |
schestowitz | "this was sarcasm." | Nov 19 12:02 |
schestowitz | Open Source is ANARCHISM!!! | Nov 19 12:03 |
oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/samsung-tells-judge-we-need-to-see-apple-htc-settlement/ | Nov 19 12:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Samsung tells judge: We need to see Apple-HTC settlement | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 35.95 KB | Nov 19 12:03 |
oiaohm | I hope this wins. | Nov 19 12:03 |
oiaohm | Since it would make the case that you are allowed to see how a patent is licensed to other parties. | Nov 19 12:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ray Kurzweil on the future of work: Lifelong learning and an #opensource economy - http://bit.ly/TbjJtn (v @schestowitz) | Nov 19 12:04 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ray Kurzweil on the future of work: Lifelong learning and an open source economy | MedCity News .::. Size~: 85 KB | Nov 19 12:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Czas na wolność w edukacji" - @FWiOO poleca ;) bit.ly/UwiAcN | Nov 19 12:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Finally managed to upload the slides for my "Wizards" talk at the OpenSuSE Conference in Prague: http://is.gd/SqiUS9 #why #faif #matters | Nov 19 12:09 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tdforg/@tdforg] Welcome as newest member of our Advisory Board, @LanedoTweets! Proud to have you on board and work with you for the good of the community! | Nov 19 12:09 | |
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iophk | http://www.slashgear.com/windows-phone-8-users-report-battery-problems-and-random-reboots-19257523/ | Nov 19 12:12 |
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schestowitz | i got it in my frafts | Nov 19 12:12 |
iophk | Technically it's not a "blue screen" since it reboots. :P | Nov 19 12:13 |
MinceR | so, same as winblows xp? :> | Nov 19 12:15 |
iophk | And Vista, Vista7, W95, W98 and all the others. | Nov 19 12:15 |
iophk | Just a little lipstick on the pig | Nov 19 12:16 |
schestowitz | yes, it changes forms | Nov 19 12:16 |
schestowitz | !google smiley blue screen windows | Nov 19 12:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Windows 8 Blue Screen of Death gets a sad smiley | Ubergizmo | http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/windows-8-blue-screen-of-death/ | Nov 19 12:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Blue Screen of... Sad Smiley Face? Win8 BSOD - Rage3D Discussion Area | http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php%3Ft%3D33991075 | Nov 19 12:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Windows 8 Blue Screen Of Death: Now With More Frowny Face ... | http://www.geekologie.com/2011/09/windows-8s-blue-screen-of-death-now-with.php | Nov 19 12:16 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Windows 8 BSOD now includes a sad face :( | WinRumors | http://www.winrumors.com/windows-8-bsod-now-includes-a-sad-face/ | Nov 19 12:16 |
cubezzz | don't forget, windows 7 == 6.2 :) | Nov 19 12:16 |
cubezzz | er | Nov 19 12:16 |
cubezzz | windows 8 rather | Nov 19 12:16 |
schestowitz | yes | Nov 19 12:16 |
schestowitz | 6.1 is vista 7 | Nov 19 12:16 |
MinceR | i think they made winblows reboot on BSoD by default in xp | Nov 19 12:17 |
MinceR | (and then it probably stuck around in vista*) | Nov 19 12:17 |
cubezzz | windows 7 still BSOD's | Nov 19 12:17 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/11/2012: Precise Puppy 5.4.1, Ubuntu/Canonical Loses Compiz Developer http://ur1.ca/b3e9e #techrights | Nov 19 12:17 | |
cubezzz | I see it in my shop | Nov 19 12:17 |
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cubezzz | sometimes I think they make it bad on purpose but that makes no sense :) | Nov 19 12:18 |
cubezzz | unless you consider the perpetual upgrade cycle | Nov 19 12:18 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] How to burn poppies responsibly: bit.ly/U80oZ2 !lol #uk | Nov 19 12:19 | |
cubezzz | "we fixed it this time for sure" etc | Nov 19 12:19 |
MinceR | they had to realize by then that they can't afford to make anything bad on purpose anymore | Nov 19 12:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @rysiek How to burn poppies responsibly: bit.ly/U80oZ2 !lol #uk | Nov 19 12:20 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "At least two activists died in custody before or during China's Communist Party congress" http://ur1.ca/b3elo | Nov 19 12:24 | |
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oiaohm | cubezzz: is the resources required. | Nov 19 12:24 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: the resources required to make a perfect OS is huge. | Nov 19 12:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Release An Unfairly Jailed War Hero - http://bit.ly/XViZMA if the facts are as stated here, this is absurd and unjust | Nov 19 12:25 | |
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oiaohm | cubezzz: Microsoft does not spend the ammount required. | Nov 19 12:26 |
cubezzz | oiaohm, I consider Microsoft mainly a marketing company | Nov 19 12:26 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: even most Linux distrobutionsare not spending near enough resources yet. | Nov 19 12:26 |
cubezzz | that's where a lot of the $$$ goes | Nov 19 12:26 |
oiaohm | The testing to make a solid OS is massive. | Nov 19 12:26 |
cubezzz | oiaohm, I'm going to check out Inferno this week, should be interesting | Nov 19 12:26 |
iophk | Even the marketing is outsourced. It's much a shell | Nov 19 12:27 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Sudden outbreak of common sense related to !copyfraud in Republican party? bit.ly/QSQsW2 | Nov 19 12:27 | |
cubezzz | yep, NT from VMS, MSDOS from C/PM (sort of), BASIC from dumpster diving, did I forget anything? :) | Nov 19 12:28 |
schestowitz | iophk: just tried to watch a report on Guardian | Nov 19 12:28 |
MinceR | cubezzz: keep us posted on inferno :) | Nov 19 12:28 |
cubezzz | oh and C compiler from Lattice | Nov 19 12:28 |
schestowitz | It forced me to watch 30 seconds Surface ad | Nov 19 12:28 |
schestowitz | Forced | Nov 19 12:29 |
iophk | ick | Nov 19 12:29 |
schestowitz | I closed the tab, not interested in the video anymore | Nov 19 12:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Release An Unfairly Jailed War Hero - http://bit.ly/XViZMA if the facts are as stated here, this is absurd and unjust | Nov 19 12:29 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Release an Unfairly Jailed War Hero | Campaigns by You .::. Size~: 21.67 KB | Nov 19 12:29 |
cubezzz | they opened a microsoft store in Canada :-/ | Nov 19 12:29 |
MinceR | they have one in budapest too :/ | Nov 19 12:29 |
cubezzz | all the employees were jumping up and down for some reason | Nov 19 12:29 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: really NT core is a good design. Implementation has been ruined. | Nov 19 12:29 |
schestowitz | ballmer jumps a lot | Nov 19 12:30 |
iophk | Is that ad part of the 1.5 billion in marketing for Vista8? Or is it from additional marketing money? | Nov 19 12:30 |
MinceR | even the design has been ruined | Nov 19 12:30 |
MinceR | compared to vms | Nov 19 12:30 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: Ie NT MS invested on one of the top OS designers then don't obey them is what they did. | Nov 19 12:30 |
schestowitz | it's nonfree, so why bother? | Nov 19 12:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Biorę udział w programie "Link do Przyszłości" - zapraszam do zapraszania! bit.ly/QSQQ6X | Nov 19 12:30 | |
MinceR | well, there's ReactOS | Nov 19 12:30 |
MinceR | but that is crap too | Nov 19 12:30 |
iophk | nonfree *and* garbage | Nov 19 12:31 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: Linux is based off non free Unix. | Nov 19 12:31 |
cubezzz | wait a sec | Nov 19 12:31 |
oiaohm | There are things to learn from the way NT was design todo things. | Nov 19 12:31 |
cubezzz | Unix V7 _is_ free | Nov 19 12:31 |
oiaohm | Not how it was implemented. | Nov 19 12:31 |
MinceR | oiaohm: yes, an object lesson | Nov 19 12:31 |
cubezzz | and Linux is similar to Unix but different | Nov 19 12:31 |
oiaohm | NT is really the first to include subsystem that is basically cgroup and zones. | Nov 19 12:32 |
cubezzz | you want modern free Unix there's the 3 BSD's | Nov 19 12:32 |
cubezzz | so that's covered too | Nov 19 12:32 |
oiaohm | Then MS does a stack of alterations so subsystems cannot operating in isolation to each other. | Nov 19 12:32 |
oiaohm | So ruining the complete design. | Nov 19 12:32 |
oiaohm | NT core design is quite nice for what it promises. | Nov 19 12:33 |
oiaohm | Its very sad to see what we get from such a good core. | Nov 19 12:33 |
cubezzz | also there's FreeVMS... | Nov 19 12:33 |
cubezzz | GPL license even | Nov 19 12:33 |
oiaohm | FreeVMS lacks the subsystem idea. | Nov 19 12:33 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nobel Laureates Salute #BradleyManning http://ur1.ca/b3f50 http://ur1.ca/ay9t0 http://ur1.ca/b3f53 #obama doesn't | Nov 19 12:34 | |
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oiaohm | NT should in theory have the means to perfectly isolate applications cubezzz | Nov 19 12:34 |
cubezzz | oiaohm, so which OS do you think has the best design? | Nov 19 12:34 |
oiaohm | Up until MS shot it NT was the best for a OS starting out. | Nov 19 12:35 |
oiaohm | After that there is a OS from embeded I forget its name but its scaryly managed to pass every section of the old USA rainbow books. | Nov 19 12:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Three #Nobel Peace Prize winners hail #BradleyManning. One Nobel Peace Prize winner, #obomba , is attacking him. Which winner is bogus? | Nov 19 12:35 | |
oiaohm | Linux and Solaris come after that. | Nov 19 12:36 |
cubezzz | there was that uncrashable OS, I forget what it was called now | Nov 19 12:36 |
oiaohm | Hurd uncrashable turns out to be a curse. | Nov 19 12:36 |
oiaohm | From a secuirty point of view. | Nov 19 12:36 |
oiaohm | Sometimes you want the OS to wake up its in a state that is insane and just stop. | Nov 19 12:37 |
cubezzz | there should be a reset video option | Nov 19 12:38 |
cubezzz | I should be able to login from ssh or serial tty and reset it completely | Nov 19 12:40 |
cubezzz | but I don't think we have that as yet | Nov 19 12:40 |
oiaohm | seL4 | Nov 19 12:40 |
oiaohm | That is the one I was thinking of. | Nov 19 12:40 |
oiaohm | http://www.ertos.nicta.com.au/research/sel4/ | Nov 19 12:41 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: seL4 (Secure Embedded L4) | ERTOS | NICTA .::. Size~: 141.36 KB | Nov 19 12:41 |
cubezzz | yup, I just found that :) | Nov 19 12:41 |
oiaohm | Yes a seL4 will crash cubezzz | Nov 19 12:41 |
oiaohm | If it getting readings that it cannot make sense of. | Nov 19 12:42 |
oiaohm | Basically uncrashable is not safe to use in real world. | Nov 19 12:42 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] I think you are limiting your view to COTS. Open source has already won in infrastructure, for example... | Nov 19 12:42 | |
cubezzz | it's downable, I guess it's seL4 + Inferno then :) | Nov 19 12:42 |
cubezzz | oiaohm, why? Why is it not safe? | Nov 19 12:42 |
oiaohm | Its like saying making cells imortal | Nov 19 12:42 |
oiaohm | Most people are not aware cancer cells are in most cases immortal. | Nov 19 12:43 |
cubezzz | hmm, the SeL4 kernel is binary only it seems | Nov 19 12:43 |
oiaohm | Since the cells don't die they keep on going developing more and more defects and doing more and more damage. | Nov 19 12:44 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: most of the high secuirty kernels are binary only. | Nov 19 12:47 |
cubezzz | I don't think I ever saw Plan 9 crash | Nov 19 12:47 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: unless you have approval to access the source code. | Nov 19 12:47 |
cubezzz | but I didn't run it for a long time | Nov 19 12:47 |
MinceR | security by obscurity? | Nov 19 12:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @JollaPL: Finalizing stuff for #slush12, see you there! /cc !n9 !n900 !maemo !meego and the silent @jolla | Nov 19 12:47 | |
MinceR | didn't work for cryptography either. | Nov 19 12:47 |
oiaohm | MinceR: this case it works because these are insanely well audited. | Nov 19 12:47 |
cubezzz | but crashiness can be caused by bad hardware, so it's always a possibility | Nov 19 12:48 |
MinceR | i'm sure | Nov 19 12:48 |
oiaohm | MinceR: Its also not fully obscuirty | Nov 19 12:48 |
MinceR | GSM worked so well too | Nov 19 12:48 |
MinceR | and WEP | Nov 19 12:48 |
oiaohm | MinceR: the core source code missing the audited state is released under a different L4 name. | Nov 19 12:48 |
oiaohm | ie seL4 what is secret mostly is how it was audited. | Nov 19 12:49 |
oiaohm | And validated against complier bugs. | Nov 19 12:49 |
MinceR | they don't trust their own methods, do they? | Nov 19 12:49 |
cubezzz | have you run it oiaohm ? | Nov 19 12:49 |
oiaohm | cubezzz: Yes I have run seL4 | Nov 19 12:50 |
oiaohm | I have also run its direct releation OKL4 | Nov 19 12:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Holding Back Standards Adoption in Europe http://ur1.ca/b3fwy #eu #ooxml #freiburg #germany #odf #libreoffice #odf | Nov 19 12:50 | |
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oiaohm | MinceR: seL4 and OKL4 are ammost identical. | Nov 19 12:52 |
MinceR | chrome and chromium are almost identical, too | Nov 19 12:52 |
MinceR | GSM and WEP were almost secure, too | Nov 19 12:52 |
oiaohm | MinceR: http://www.ok-labs.com/licenses In fact you find NICTA releasing source code to it. who are the makers of seL4. | Nov 19 12:53 |
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MinceR | releasing some of their code? how cute. | Nov 19 12:53 |
oiaohm | MinceR: the secuirty by obsecuirty in this case does work. | Nov 19 12:53 |
oiaohm | Becuase they have not hidden the code base. | Nov 19 12:53 |
oiaohm | Mostly what they are hidding how its built and tested. | Nov 19 12:54 |
oiaohm | So attacker has to guess. | Nov 19 12:54 |
MinceR | others relying on "security" by obscurity think they've tested their stuff too | Nov 19 12:54 |
oiaohm | And the sample release is not the same as production. | Nov 19 12:54 |
cubezzz | no one runs it so it's secure :) | Nov 19 12:54 |
MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerckhoffs%27s_principle | Nov 19 12:54 |
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oiaohm | MinceR: If you have a license to use seL4 in production devices you get access to the testing methods and the source code. | Nov 19 12:55 |
cubezzz | singularity seems to be dead now | Nov 19 12:55 |
oiaohm | Basically random third parties are not allowed to look basically MinceR | Nov 19 12:55 |
MinceR | which is precisely the problem | Nov 19 12:56 |
oiaohm | If random third parties what to look the look at OKL4 | Nov 19 12:56 |
MinceR | you don't have a lot of eyes looking at it and trying to improve it | Nov 19 12:56 |
oiaohm | Remember they have not 100 percent locked everyone out. | Nov 19 12:56 |
oiaohm | This is not windows. | Nov 19 12:56 |
MinceR | also, if a black hat wants to look for holes, all they need to do is buy a license or break into someone's infrastructure who has one | Nov 19 12:56 |
MinceR | yes, this is not windows, this is something very similar to windows. | Nov 19 12:57 |
cubezzz | here's another one: | Nov 19 12:57 |
cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_OS | Nov 19 12:57 |
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oiaohm | MinceR: anyone who has handled seL4 will tell you the idea of a break in is not as simple. You are not allowed to have the core systems source code on anything internet connected. | Nov 19 12:59 |
oiaohm | That includes the how its tested. | Nov 19 12:59 |
oiaohm | MinceR: black hat would basically have to buy a license somehow. | Nov 19 13:00 |
MinceR | and that's so difficult | Nov 19 13:00 |
MinceR | say, for the black hats of red china | Nov 19 13:00 |
oiaohm | Impossible | Nov 19 13:00 |
oiaohm | Even USA black hats | Nov 19 13:00 |
oiaohm | Australia export restrictions. | Nov 19 13:00 |
cubezzz | huh, just noticed it's Australian | Nov 19 13:01 |
cubezzz | well looks like it's PhantomOS or Inferno then :) | Nov 19 13:01 |
oiaohm | MinceR: USA mil is not allowed to buy a license to seL4 | Nov 19 13:01 |
MinceR | i'm sure black hats can't get around such restrictions | Nov 19 13:03 |
MinceR | but i'm sure it's a comforting illusion | Nov 19 13:04 |
oiaohm | Blackhats have a simpler time trying to lciense OKL4 | Nov 19 13:04 |
cubezzz | just make your own CPU and your own OS | Nov 19 13:04 |
oiaohm | That one is allowed to be exported. | Nov 19 13:05 |
cubezzz | in a batcave :) | Nov 19 13:05 |
MinceR | or just use a free os | Nov 19 13:05 |
oiaohm | seL4 does have a custom design CPU it can be running on. | Nov 19 13:05 |
MinceR | adding to the illusion, i'm sure | Nov 19 13:06 |
oiaohm | We know that nothing is 100 percent. | Nov 19 13:06 |
oiaohm | But correctly used obsecuirty increases risk attacker will show themselves before they are successful. | Nov 19 13:07 |
MinceR | it also increases the risk of security holes they can exploit | Nov 19 13:07 |
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MinceR | and it also increases the risk that if someone finds a vulnerability, they'll use it for nefarious purposes instead of reporting it to the developers or developing a patch and distributing it. | Nov 19 13:08 |
oiaohm | MinceR: in the case that the source code is published under 1 name. | Nov 19 13:08 |
oiaohm | MinceR: and how the binary is built and audited is secert. | Nov 19 13:08 |
MinceR | none of which works :> | Nov 19 13:08 |
oiaohm | The chances of nafarious purposes is quite low. | Nov 19 13:08 |
MinceR | just look how zomg-secure windows is | Nov 19 13:08 |
MinceR | and look at the black market for vulnerabilities in crApple OSes | Nov 19 13:09 |
oiaohm | The cpu design to audit operations was designed for sel4. | Nov 19 13:09 |
oiaohm | Apple and Windows use off the shelf cpus with off the shelf weaknesses in design. | Nov 19 13:09 |
MinceR | a custom cpu design isn't going to make a vulnerable OS unbreakable | Nov 19 13:10 |
oiaohm | It can reduce the vulnerable points in the OS quite a lot. | Nov 19 13:11 |
MinceR | which is far from enough | Nov 19 13:11 |
oiaohm | Lets start with a basic design defect memory controller. | Nov 19 13:11 |
MinceR | probably their best bet against attacks is that their platform is rarely used | Nov 19 13:11 |
oiaohm | current x86 memory controls are about 6 to 8 years behind. | Nov 19 13:12 |
oiaohm | On best design for a secure memory controller. | Nov 19 13:12 |
MinceR | it's not like a secure memory controller can only be designed in a security-by-obscurity way | Nov 19 13:12 |
oiaohm | Basically apple and windows are both really running on quicksand. | Nov 19 13:12 |
MinceR | yes, because they too rely on security by obscurity | Nov 19 13:13 |
MinceR | and you can see how well it works out for them | Nov 19 13:13 |
oiaohm | The memory controller seL4 is like seL4 it self not secret. | Nov 19 13:13 |
oiaohm | Its the combination of parts that is secert. | Nov 19 13:14 |
MinceR | so it's "not secret", except it's secret. | Nov 19 13:14 |
oiaohm | MinceR: windows trys to keep everything as secect as able. | Nov 19 13:15 |
cubezzz | they can keep it :) | Nov 19 13:15 |
oiaohm | seL4 lets its releations be independantently audited. | Nov 19 13:15 |
oiaohm | seL4 is really a combination of independantently audited assembed into what should be a very secure solution. | Nov 19 13:16 |
oiaohm | If windows was designed the same. You would have MS Windows the main product and some fork off to the side that is like 99 the same with exposed source code that anyone can look at. | Nov 19 13:17 |
oiaohm | That 1 percent can make a very big different to how simple of a time an attacker has. | Nov 19 13:17 |
MinceR | i'm sure it says "very secure" on the brochure | Nov 19 13:18 |
MinceR | and it makes some people feel warm and fuzzy about it | Nov 19 13:18 |
MinceR | but it doesn't seem to amount to much | Nov 19 13:18 |
oiaohm | In fact on the brochure it says the core might be secure but if you run crap on top of it the secuirty is worthless. | Nov 19 13:19 |
MinceR | as far as i know, this approach has never proven to be good for security | Nov 19 13:19 |
oiaohm | seL4 approach has historically worked. | Nov 19 13:19 |
MinceR | for example, every single "custom" cryptographic algorithm i've ever read about turned out to be a lot weaker than its developers thought it was | Nov 19 13:20 |
oiaohm | Because its not 100 percent secret. | Nov 19 13:20 |
MinceR | and the least vulnerable OS-es also use the same approach | Nov 19 13:20 |
MinceR | yeah, well, the code crApple and m$ ripped out of FreeBSD isn't 100 percent secret either | Nov 19 13:20 |
MinceR | didn't save their products from being full of holes. | Nov 19 13:20 |
oiaohm | seL4 is like a secure open source cryptographic algorithm with a secret key. | Nov 19 13:20 |
MinceR | no, it's not like that | Nov 19 13:21 |
oiaohm | MinceR: most of its code is open to inspection. | Nov 19 13:21 |
oiaohm | MinceR: In fact it is. | Nov 19 13:21 |
MinceR | it's like a closed source algorithm with a secret key | Nov 19 13:21 |
oiaohm | OKL4 and SEL4 are basically the same OS. | Nov 19 13:21 |
MinceR | "most" being open to _inspection_ is worthless | Nov 19 13:21 |
MinceR | "basically" is also worthless | Nov 19 13:21 |
oiaohm | The complier is fairly much standard. | Nov 19 13:21 |
MinceR | if you can only inspect it, there's no assurance that the binaries are built from that code | Nov 19 13:22 |
MinceR | also, even if you did find a flaw, you couldn't fix it | Nov 19 13:22 |
MinceR | and even if you could, you wouldn't be able to share the fix with anyone | Nov 19 13:22 |
MinceR | and "basically the same" means there's some secret difference that can still be full of holes, as far as you know. | Nov 19 13:22 |
oiaohm | If you are licensed to use seL4 in products you are also license to submit upstream patches and share patches with other licensed parties. | Nov 19 13:22 |
oiaohm | This is not true for Windows. | Nov 19 13:22 |
MinceR | and that secret component is supposed to make the system secure, which is preposterous. | Nov 19 13:23 |
MinceR | you're licensed to submit patches upstream, who are free to ignore all of it. | Nov 19 13:23 |
MinceR | which is yet another thing that keeps happening with nonfree systems. | Nov 19 13:23 |
oiaohm | In fact no. | Nov 19 13:23 |
oiaohm | The license parties can in fact do there own versions. | Nov 19 13:24 |
oiaohm | As I said this is not windows MinceR | Nov 19 13:24 |
MinceR | so, are they allowed to distribute those versions as free software and are they discouraged from doing so? | Nov 19 13:24 |
oiaohm | The liciensing is way more librial. | Nov 19 13:24 |
MinceR | maybe such a derivative could be secure and trustworthy enough | Nov 19 13:25 |
oiaohm | MinceR: if the alteration could be done to OKL4 they would be free to distribute that version. | Nov 19 13:25 |
oiaohm | To anyone. | Nov 19 13:25 |
MinceR | if enough people cared | Nov 19 13:25 |
MinceR | but the above approach doesn't look like it would be inviting to anyone who cares. | Nov 19 13:25 |
oiaohm | Some of the forks to OKL4 have happened because of disputes. | Nov 19 13:25 |
MinceR | especially if you consider what security holes _upstream_ might be hiding from _you_ | Nov 19 13:26 |
MinceR | because they apparently like playing this way | Nov 19 13:26 |
oiaohm | MinceR: remember OEM/device makers with windows are not allowed to patch the windows source code. | Nov 19 13:26 |
oiaohm | seL4 is not ideal but its a hell lot better on licensing than Windows. | Nov 19 13:26 |
MinceR | they do tend to put crapware on top, though | Nov 19 13:27 |
oiaohm | At least the licensed makers do have full source code access. | Nov 19 13:27 |
MinceR | yes, and all of them are a hell of a lot worse than GNU/Linux. | Nov 19 13:27 |
MinceR | or FreeBSD. | Nov 19 13:27 |
oiaohm | The licensed makers do have full control over what software. | Nov 19 13:27 |
MinceR | or any other free Unix | Nov 19 13:27 |
MinceR | why do the device owners/users not have full control over the software? | Nov 19 13:28 |
oiaohm | is included | Nov 19 13:28 |
oiaohm | With windows MS declares what you must include MinceR | Nov 19 13:28 |
oiaohm | seL4 is better than Windows without question. | Nov 19 13:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Portugal publishes open standards catalog. ODF, PDF and several other standards are mandatory" - http://www.esop.pt/... http://b1t.it/crUZ | Nov 19 13:29 | |
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oiaohm | On its licensing. | Nov 19 13:29 |
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cubezzz | agreed | Nov 19 13:29 |
cubezzz | none of us are going to say windows is better :) | Nov 19 13:29 |
MinceR | it isn't exactly difficult to be better than windows | Nov 19 13:29 |
oiaohm | OKL4 and Freebsd are about equally licensed. MinceR | Nov 19 13:29 |
MinceR | but it's also easy to be better than windows just by a little bit | Nov 19 13:30 |
oiaohm | They do provide an option not to use there solution as well. | Nov 19 13:30 |
MinceR | oiaohm: afaik the FreeBSD developers don't keep secrets and don't make agreements behind the backs of their users | Nov 19 13:30 |
oiaohm | LOl | Nov 19 13:30 |
MinceR | let alone claim that such dealings would somehow make their products more secure. | Nov 19 13:30 |
oiaohm | History of FreeBSD has seen developers from Freebsd work on commerical unix solutions wth secrects and claim exactly that. | Nov 19 13:31 |
MinceR | well, that's sad | Nov 19 13:31 |
MinceR | still, there are probably plenty of free unixes for which the above is true | Nov 19 13:32 |
oiaohm | The thing is those FreeBSD developers would also try to hide it. | Nov 19 13:32 |
oiaohm | seL4 and OKL4 don't keep the releationship secret. | Nov 19 13:32 |
oiaohm | OKL4 is openly stated in the seL4 documentation. | Nov 19 13:32 |
oiaohm | MinceR: its the classic good with bad. | Nov 19 13:33 |
Diablo-D3 | [08:26:05] <MinceR> especially if you consider what security holes _upstream_ might be hiding from _you_ | Nov 19 13:34 |
Diablo-D3 | erm | Nov 19 13:34 |
Diablo-D3 | Ive only glossed over the discussion | Nov 19 13:34 |
Diablo-D3 | but the nature of foss prevents the hiding of anything | Nov 19 13:34 |
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oiaohm | MinceR: I also missed something else about seL4 license. Maker of devices has to be the company or mill using the devices with seL4. This is really not like windows. | Nov 19 13:35 |
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oiaohm | MinceR: so if you are using seL4 you do have access to its source code. | Nov 19 13:36 |
oiaohm | MinceR: for anything more than expermental usage that is. | Nov 19 13:36 |
oiaohm | MinceR: the exact question is there any value giving source code access to any party who is not really using the OS. | Nov 19 13:38 |
oiaohm | MinceR: since they will not have a invested interested in the OS's secuirty. | Nov 19 13:39 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU finally supports binding Treaty Visually Impaired: offical statement at WIPO - http://bit.ly/UaeQl8 yes, at last: now US is only hold-out | Nov 19 13:39 | |
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MinceR | Diablo-D3: seL4 (or whatever it's called) isn't foss, that's the issue here :) | Nov 19 13:44 |
Diablo-D3 | ahh | Nov 19 13:46 |
Diablo-D3 | burn it then | Nov 19 13:46 |
oiaohm | MinceR: the fact is seL4 is one of the horrible cases, Where you have to ask the question who should see the source code. | Nov 19 13:46 |
oiaohm | MinceR: not like you will run weapon systems if you are sane on a stock standard public OS. | Nov 19 13:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #re:publica – Early-Bird-Tickets in unter einer Stunde ausverkauft - http://bit.ly/UafBe2 clearly the place to be next May... | Nov 19 13:47 | |
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MinceR | oiaohm: i don't have to ask a question to which the answer is obvious. | Nov 19 13:48 |
MinceR | ("everyone") | Nov 19 13:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Book Teaches Kids #OpenSource Programming - http://bit.ly/UOXeI9 great idea #education #hacking | Nov 19 13:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Here is why Cisco bought Meraki for $1.2 billion in cash - http://bit.ly/UQau54 pity they betrayed their #opensource roots early on... | Nov 19 13:49 | |
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oiaohm | MinceR: sounds good. | Nov 19 13:49 |
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oiaohm | MinceR: think about the USA using Windows for weapons control. | Nov 19 13:49 |
oiaohm | MinceR: stock standard. | Nov 19 13:49 |
MinceR | yes, if you're sane then you'll want to run weapon systems on an os that might be full of holes that you can't find out or fix. | Nov 19 13:49 |
MinceR | oh, wait... | Nov 19 13:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Now five Environment ministers want review of GM approvals - http://bit.ly/Wp7FYN momentum continues to build #seralini #monsanto | Nov 19 13:50 | |
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oiaohm | MinceR: the the USA mill was complaining at one point about about not being able to get windows updates out to the fleet. | Nov 19 13:53 |
MinceR | that's pretty horrible too | Nov 19 13:53 |
MinceR | winblows updates could after all contain code that would make their weapons fire at whoever m$ wants dead :> | Nov 19 13:53 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] This Trend Is Very Worrisome For Apple - http://read.bi/UCwpX9 two graphs that say it all #smartphones | Nov 19 13:54 | |
MinceR | then again, m$ probably already has considerable influence on the us armed forces | Nov 19 13:54 |
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oiaohm | MinceR: USA mil worked out with drone control breach windows was not exactly a good idea. | Nov 19 13:55 |
cubezzz | I don't think I want Windows Bomb Drone edition | Nov 19 13:56 |
MinceR | i could have told them before they started using it | Nov 19 13:57 |
MinceR | at least Windows Bomb Drone Edition is as likely to crash land near the launching site as it is to shoot whoever m$ wants dead. :> | Nov 19 13:58 |
cubezzz | we hope | Nov 19 14:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brevet unitaire européen: un compromis veut écarter l'Union européenne - http://bit.ly/Xsky5I #opensource & European Parliament under attack | Nov 19 14:04 | |
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oiaohm | MinceR: recent time usa MIl is moving drone control and other nicely critical weapons system to Linux. | Nov 19 14:08 |
oiaohm | MinceR: yes anything could be better than what they were using. | Nov 19 14:08 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #UnitaryPatent #JURI 2012 http://ur1.ca/a40hl #eu #swpats | Nov 19 14:27 | |
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iophk | Vista8 : http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57551670-75/design-guru-nielsen-windows-8-ui-smothers-usability/ | Nov 19 14:28 |
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iophk | Not so much a history of actually correcting the mistakes, more like browbeating end users into accepting the mistakes as the new norm. | Nov 19 14:29 |
iophk | More tracking : http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/16/facebook-ads-idUSL1E8MG00N20121116 | Nov 19 14:31 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/97969656 | Nov 19 14:34 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @silner (silner)'s status on Monday, 19-Nov-12 14:26:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz They had a pretty good rep before they were taken over too | Nov 19 14:34 |
schestowitz | (skype) | Nov 19 14:34 |
schestowitz | When Skype was based in Europe it was subjected to different laws and not owned by criminals | Nov 19 14:35 |
MinceR | it was a botnet even then | Nov 19 14:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #silner When Skype was based in Europe it was subjected to different laws and not owned by criminals | Nov 19 14:35 | |
MinceR | nonfree, obfuscated code talking to random ports of random hosts using an obfuscated, encrypted, nonfree protocol | Nov 19 14:36 |
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schestowitz | at it's best open source is organic and rapidly evolving in unexpected ways | Nov 19 14:56 |
schestowitz | it can help us create new political philosophies if we let it, maybe someday one of them will work! :) | Nov 19 14:56 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The online highway code: three simple rules to solve the internet http://goo.gl/I8nb5 | Nov 19 15:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] After Savita Halappanavar's death, the brutal irony of 'pro-life' is exposed http://goo.gl/BtHnV | Nov 19 15:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Rupert Murdoch and the Jews http://goo.gl/uh9yF | Nov 19 15:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] These plans for secret hearings are unfair and implausible http://goo.gl/Bg4cB | Nov 19 15:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Forthcoming book on conservative & libertarian skepticism about our #copyright system - http://bit.ly/QThCvT v welcome trend (v @jeffjarvis) | Nov 19 15:49 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeed, let's hope there's more | Nov 19 15:49 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Why don't we use !Friendica or !Diaspora as basis for blogs/websites? http://rys.io/en/92 !feds | Nov 19 15:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @journosonline: Find out just what the impact of Twitter on journalism really is. Take a look at: http://t.co/9Hy0kAyZ via @10000Word ... | Nov 19 16:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Debate over #Copyright Reform Cannot Be Censored - http://bit.ly/ROBxsU retracting a document or two won't stop it... | Nov 19 16:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Post | Conference Buddy - http://is.gd/L3G0cN #fb | Nov 19 16:22 | |
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iophk | http://blog.jdpfu.com/2012/11/13/what-petraeus-did-wrong-no-encryption | Nov 19 16:24 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Yet another completely ridiculous arrest What about the SS stormtrooper thugs who attacked the father's hospital ??? ... http://b1t.it/crZd | Nov 19 16:25 | |
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iophk | Thunderbird needs modification to allow searching of PGP encrypted messages. The index can be encrypted/decrypted with the same key pair as the messages. | Nov 19 16:29 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RIM CEO Thorsten Heins: BlackBerry 10 is a laptop killer http://goo.gl/lACCZ via USB? plug it in to charge & BOOM! | Nov 19 16:30 | |
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iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/petraeus-downfall-illustrates-scope-of-feds-e-mail-snooping-powers/ | Nov 19 16:40 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How To Safely Clean Your Tablet Or Smartphone's Touchscreen http://goo.gl/VdSnH | Nov 19 16:54 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Assassination studies: Why weren't there any witnesses? http://goo.gl/D0QOz #jfk | Nov 19 17:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Trading away our digital rights: more nations join #TPP as the next round of negotiations approach https://eff.org/r.a8qR #ACTA | Nov 19 17:29 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] 30 Linux Kernel Developers in 30 Weeks: Glauber Costa: bit.ly/WpVKd9 yfrog.com/nwwlzcgxj | Nov 19 17:30 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Assassination studies: Preparing the public mind http://goo.gl/Fk4dM #jfk | Nov 19 17:39 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Russell Brand laughs off 'Fag Pimp' right wing religious row http://goo.gl/8CTEr | Nov 19 17:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Join CC'S @cgreen this week for an Association for Learning Technology webinar on #oer and open policy. http://bit.ly/QTz0Rl | Nov 19 17:44 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] !librefm is back folks. We're on a brand new postgres install -- thanks to Clint for his help getting things online. | Nov 19 17:52 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens @Thistleweb @Mbjunior @Ovigia @Marjoleink @Sandersch @Reality @Nybill @Zoowar | Nov 19 17:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Drugs during long term survival situations (Part I: Alcohol) | SHTF School http://goo.gl/Nme58 #preppers | Nov 19 17:57 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British Bedroom Tax will penalise those on housing benefit with spare bedrooms until they move into non existent smaller social housing. | Nov 19 17:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This is a further example of this government legislating before engaging brain. | Nov 19 18:00 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Monday http://ur1.ca/b3ruu | Nov 19 18:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] take a look at this arsehole's repetitive begging tweets http://ur1.ca/b3rv7 THIS is why I can't stand marketing folks | Nov 19 18:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I guess repeating the same shit day after day, copy & paste, is keyword marketting - I call it spam | Nov 19 18:04 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #RaspberryPi Spawns Competitors > Comments http://goo.gl/U2071 #floss #gnulinux | Nov 19 18:10 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] After denying records request, San Diego says there's "very little public benefit" in releasing drones info. Really? https://eff.org/r.5aqU | Nov 19 18:12 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Future perfect? The JURI is out, and Europe waits ... - http://bit.ly/10gp8BG looks like the #unitarypatent trick is going through #swpats | Nov 19 18:14 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch Cold Case Murder Solved After 8000 People Gave Their DNA - http://bit.ly/Q5B33n 'cos murderer gave his #DNA #doh | Nov 19 18:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Court Decisions - http://bit.ly/Q5B9rS fun and games in #kazakhstan...or maybe not | Nov 19 18:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gmail In #Cherokee: Why Google Is Awesome - http://bit.ly/TbRifY wonderful news for the language: kudos #linguistics | Nov 19 18:24 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Republicans said "let's fix #copyright," then retracted under pressure. RSC, your report was right on! https://eff.org/r.3aqV | Nov 19 18:24 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] press (DE) @bild "EU-Richtlinie stärkt Verbraucherrechte Handy-Modifikation bedroht Gewährleistung nicht" ur1.ca/b3tj6 | Nov 19 18:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: Homeless Dude Arrested for Charging His Phone in a Park http://ur1.ca/b3t5g seriously?!? #WTF | Nov 19 18:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fractal weirdness #language def. A situation or thing so weird that even a small part of it is infinitely weird. | Nov 19 18:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] On the draconian [Indian] cyber law http://ur1.ca/b3u2g ht... http://b1t.it/cr1S | Nov 19 18:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @theru i am thick dumb and stupid. Can i request one to go shopping this evening | Nov 19 18:47 | |
schestowitz | [16:29] <iophk> Thunderbird needs modification to allow searching of PGP encrypted messages. The index can be encrypted/decrypted with the same key pair as the messages. | Nov 19 18:48 |
schestowitz | Thunderbird is great, but B0ng ruined it | Nov 19 18:49 |
iophk | B0ng is a symptom. Someone sabotaged it. | Nov 19 18:49 |
cubezzz | what is B0ng? | Nov 19 18:49 |
iophk | Now it's being benignly neglected | Nov 19 18:49 |
iophk | B0ng is M$ attempt at having a search engine | Nov 19 18:49 |
iophk | It was injected into Tbird | Nov 19 18:50 |
cubezzz | ah I see | Nov 19 18:50 |
iophk | DDG would have been the sound choice if it were absolutely necessary to avoid Google. | Nov 19 18:50 |
cubezzz | oh well, I'm a mutt user, so I haven't looked at thunderbird in ages | Nov 19 18:50 |
iophk | Does mutt do imaps? | Nov 19 18:50 |
cubezzz | I think so | Nov 19 18:51 |
iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-ed-markey/50-years-after-rachel-car_b_1919597.html | Nov 19 18:52 |
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iophk | It'd be nice to know for sure if it does IMAPS | Nov 19 18:52 |
cubezzz | http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2006/09/27/using-imap-with-mutt/ | Nov 19 18:52 |
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iophk | pine/alpine/re-alpine seem to be sidelined | Nov 19 18:52 |
iophk | I guess the plan is for everyone to use Facebook instead of e-mail | Nov 19 18:53 |
cubezzz | I usually have multiple text terms plus a few X systems running so I've never bothered with IMAP using mutt | Nov 19 18:54 |
iophk | Thanks. That link answered it. | Nov 19 18:55 |
MinceR | thunderbird's been getting worse for a while | Nov 19 18:59 |
MinceR | opening messages in new tabs instead of new windows, unusable search function | Nov 19 19:00 |
cubezzz | I even use lynx and various other text based web clients when I can | Nov 19 19:00 |
cubezzz | it's not always possible | Nov 19 19:00 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119986 | Nov 19 19:02 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Legacy of Linus Torvalds: Linux, Git, and One Giant Flamethrower http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/11/linus-torvalds-isoc/ #linux | Nov 19 19:02 |
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schestowitz | " | Nov 19 19:02 |
schestowitz | smart and stubborn he is :) he did not do the things he has, or get where he is, by agreeing with other people | Nov 19 19:02 |
schestowitz | don't expect he will start doing that any time soon :) | Nov 19 19:02 |
schestowitz | " | Nov 19 19:02 |
schestowitz | [19:00] <MinceR> opening messages in new tabs instead of new windows, unusable search function | Nov 19 19:03 |
schestowitz | +1 | Nov 19 19:03 |
schestowitz | it was also weak on searvch | Nov 19 19:03 |
cubezzz | someone will fork it then | Nov 19 19:03 |
cubezzz | if it's that bad | Nov 19 19:03 |
MinceR | i hope so | Nov 19 19:03 |
schestowitz | but withalt+shift+f IIRC you can do full body search by folder nd it's not too bad | Nov 19 19:03 |
MinceR | claws refuses to send mail if it has more than one imap account configured | Nov 19 19:03 |
schestowitz | you could install Google Desktop spyware for more advanced search | Nov 19 19:03 |
MinceR | schestowitz: does it filter the list then? | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | which list? | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | it gives a list of all esults | Nov 19 19:04 |
MinceR | the list of messages | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | which you can sort by columns | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | yes | Nov 19 19:04 |
MinceR | ic | Nov 19 19:04 |
MinceR | thanks for the tip | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | the search thing in TB crashed the whole aop for me in mutipl;e versionbs | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | the quick search bar thing | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | not the advanced one | Nov 19 19:04 |
schestowitz | which is a gimmnick anyway | Nov 19 19:05 |
MinceR | i liked the quick one | Nov 19 19:06 |
MinceR | back when it just filtered the message list | Nov 19 19:06 |
iophk | http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2012/11/19/world-bank-worries-earth-risks.html | Nov 19 19:06 |
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cubezzz | hmmm, dillo is light and fast | Nov 19 19:12 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119345 | Nov 19 19:13 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## [House Republicans release watershed copyright reform paper](http://boingboing.net/2012/11/17/house-republicans-release-wate.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29) "Three Myths about Copyright Law and Where to Start to Fix it (PDF) is a position paper just released by House Republicans, advocating for a raft of eminently sensible reforms to c | Nov 19 19:13 |
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schestowitz | "Losers, dont these people have any balls?" | Nov 19 19:13 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: for a moment I thought you said dildo | Nov 19 19:14 |
iophk | dillo won't do https | Nov 19 19:15 |
MinceR | does it do css and background images? | Nov 19 19:15 |
schestowitz | Facebook offering e-retailers sales tracking tool | Nov 19 19:15 |
schestowitz | <br> Facebook will begin rolling out on Friday a new tool which will allow online retailers to track purchases by members of the social network who have viewed their ads. | Nov 19 19:15 |
schestowitz | The tool is the latest of the new advertising features Facebook is offering to convince marketers that steering advertising dollars to the company will deliver a payoff. | Nov 19 19:15 |
schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/16/facebook-ads-idUSL1E8MG00N20121116 | Nov 19 19:15 |
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schestowitz | thanks [again] for the information, Dr. Roy Schestowitz | Nov 19 19:15 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2120033 | Nov 19 19:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @el_olmo@pod.fulll.name: ### Facebook offering e-retailers sales tracking tool <br> *Facebook will begin rolling out on Friday a new tool which will allow online retailers to track purchases by members of the social network who have viewed their ads.* *The tool is the latest of the new advertising features Facebook is offering to convince marketers that steering advertising dollars to the company will deliver a payoff.* http://www.reuters.com/art | Nov 19 19:15 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: it's not a bad browser | Nov 19 19:16 |
schestowitz | for DSL maybe | Nov 19 19:16 |
iophk | MinceR: do you have a link handy with the css and background images to test on? | Nov 19 19:16 |
MinceR | i know | Nov 19 19:16 |
MinceR | it's just light on features | Nov 19 19:16 |
schestowitz | but for any modern PC it'\s useless | Nov 19 19:16 |
MinceR | iophk: not particularly | Nov 19 19:16 |
MinceR | when a site is particularly nasty i sometimes try it in links2 -g | Nov 19 19:16 |
iophk | http://www.csszengarden.com/ | Nov 19 19:17 |
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MinceR | iophk: actually, i can think of one for css: http://www.dilbert.com/ | Nov 19 19:17 |
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iophk | No, dillo won't render | Nov 19 19:17 |
MinceR | css is used to hide the larger image :) | Nov 19 19:17 |
iophk | In some ways lynx does a better job than dillo, lynx supports https | Nov 19 19:20 |
iophk | Vista 8 is not selling: http://techland.time.com/2012/11/19/windows-8-the-seven-roads-not-taken/ | Nov 19 19:25 |
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MinceR | "windows 8 is a long bet" -- translation: they expect to "sell" that crap by EoL-ing the previous versions | Nov 19 19:26 |
MinceR | (just like vista and vista7) | Nov 19 19:26 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119474 | Nov 19 19:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: #Canaima 3.1 Screenshots http://chrishaney.com/?linux&release=Canaima%203.1 #gnu #linux for Americans | Nov 19 19:29 |
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schestowitz | at it's best open source is organic and rapidly evolving in unexpected ways | Nov 19 19:29 |
schestowitz | it can help us create new political philosophies if we let it, maybe someday one of them will work! :) | Nov 19 19:29 |
schestowitz | " | Nov 19 19:29 |
MinceR | "Windows Phone is an excellent operating system" -- say what? | Nov 19 19:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Watch this interview with @lessig from the upcoming documentary The Faithful. http://bit.ly/Q5JRWT #ccfilm | Nov 19 19:30 | |
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MinceR | Time calls this journalism? | Nov 19 19:32 |
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schestowitz | [19:30] <MinceR> "Windows Phone is an excellent operating system" -- say what? | Nov 19 19:33 |
schestowitz | I have a post about it coming | Nov 19 19:34 |
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cubezzz | I never understood the mentality of the people lining up to buy win95 | Nov 19 19:37 |
MinceR | neither did it | Nov 19 19:38 |
cubezzz | to recap, in 1995 we had FreeBSD 2.0, Ultrix 4.5, and Redhat 1.0 | Nov 19 19:40 |
cubezzz | and Slackware and Yggdrasil a bit before that | Nov 19 19:41 |
MinceR | there was also a version of winblows that was less bloated and didn't try to prevent the user from using dos if he wanted | Nov 19 19:41 |
cubezzz | Ultrix 4.5 was the final release | Nov 19 19:42 |
cubezzz | I guess OS/2 was kicking around too | Nov 19 19:43 |
cubezzz | oh and Plan 9 :) | Nov 19 19:44 |
MinceR | yes, OS/2 was technically far superior at the time | Nov 19 19:45 |
cubezzz | still closed source of course | Nov 19 19:45 |
iophk | OS/2 was apparently very good, too bad IBM relied on M$ for the applications | Nov 19 19:45 |
iophk | M$ was also partly responsible for the development so the copyright is an issue and we won't see OS/2 released as Open Source even for fun. | Nov 19 19:46 |
cubezzz | ah, plenty of other OSes | Nov 19 19:46 |
cubezzz | IBM never opened VM/SP or it's successors either | Nov 19 19:47 |
cubezzz | not a great track record for opening up their operating systems, IBM | Nov 19 19:48 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 106 dents! | Nov 19 20:02 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World's most expensive #coffee tainted by 'horrific' civet abuse - http://bit.ly/10h4aTh we should have guessed this would happen... | Nov 19 20:22 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] App Developer Hijacks Customer Twitter Accounts In An Attempt To Shame Pirates - http://bit.ly/100tSMN strange how it always goes wrong | Nov 19 20:25 | |
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schestowitz | anyone here familiar with joomla newsletter? | Nov 19 20:28 |
iophk | no | Nov 19 20:28 |
schestowitz | a large client in the aerospace industry is using it, they need some help, I can't figure it out, but Joomla SURE IS IMPRESSIVE | Nov 19 20:28 |
schestowitz | although intimidating, so many modules, more than php-nuke | Nov 19 20:29 |
schestowitz | Version 1.5.26 | Nov 19 20:30 |
schestowitz | jNews | Nov 19 20:30 |
cubezzz | doesn't anyone want motif help? :) | Nov 19 20:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 121118 - http://bit.ly/TM07s1 yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDD | Nov 19 20:30 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Firefox for #Android Now Available for Millions More Phones - http://bit.ly/QTTHN8 will now run on #ARMv6 architecture | Nov 19 20:32 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] JSTOR provides free access to Wikipedia editors via pilot program - http://bit.ly/TU9OXQ great; now could the other 7 billion of us have it? | Nov 19 20:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] China may save faltering major desert solar power plan for Europe. http://ur1.ca/b3v2q !Green | Nov 19 20:37 | |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/opendocument/statuses/270559815737163776 | Nov 19 20:38 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @opendocument: RT @schestowitz: Holding Back Standards Adoption in Europe http://t.co/wbPYnfbS #eu #ooxml #freiburg #germany #odf #libreoffice #odf | Nov 19 20:38 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Actual Age Of Earth Is 'One Of The Great Mysteries' - http://huff.to/S6BFpc no, this stupidity is "1 of the great mysteries" (v @normative) | Nov 19 20:47 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Huge step forward for encrypting the web, as #Facebook announces they're moving all users to HTTPS by default: https://eff.org/r.a7qW | Nov 19 20:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] wow, this is fun: the #BBC won't let me access the bbc.com site 'cos I'm in UK - http://bit.ly/Q5SK2Q ironic much? | Nov 19 20:50 | |
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MinceR | IBM mismanaged so many of their products | Nov 19 20:52 |
schestowitz | [20:50] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [glynmoody/@glynmoody] wow, this is fun: the #BBC won't let me access the bbc.com site 'cos I'm in UK - http://bit.ly/Q5SK2Q ironic much? | Nov 19 21:01 |
schestowitz | same for me | Nov 19 21:01 |
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schestowitz | this is so weird | Nov 19 21:01 |
schestowitz | everyone links to it | Nov 19 21:01 |
schestowitz | but not from the UK | Nov 19 21:01 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rep. Darrell Issa Wants To Make It Clear That You're Allowed To Rip Your DVDs - http://bit.ly/SZBYPZ ridiculous it needs a new bill... | Nov 19 21:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Life of Pi Featurette: Richard Parker http://ur1.ca/b4088 | Nov 19 21:05 | |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gibus/status/270633705138184193 | Nov 19 21:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @gibus: @teirdes @glynmoody and this article is strange: criticizing the smartphone patents thermonuclear war but promoting a troll as solution | Nov 19 21:15 |
schestowitz | "@teirdes @glynmoody and this article is strange: criticizing the smartphone patents thermonuclear war but promoting a troll as solution " | Nov 19 21:15 |
schestowitz | BBC | Nov 19 21:15 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Creating a Tiger for ‘Life of Pi’ http://ur1.ca/b40sy... http://b1t.it/cr3H | Nov 19 21:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turkish PM calls Israel a "Terrorist state". This is strong stuff as Turkey was until recently an ally of Israel. | Nov 19 21:19 | |
iophk | Proposes patent trolls as a solution : http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20121116-phone-patents-an-absurd-battle/2 | Nov 19 21:19 |
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iophk | I am surprised that Intellectual Ventures was not promoted. that's one of the biggest if not the biggest | Nov 19 21:20 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Activists’ #drone shot out of the sky for fourth time - http://bit.ly/URfQgj this will soon be too common to mention (v @drones) | Nov 19 21:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I think it is: this man is obviously a loon... | Nov 19 21:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I agree - but that's not what he meant... | Nov 19 21:37 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Let’s Limit the Effect of Software Patents, Since We Can’t Eliminate Themhttp://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/11/rich... http://b1t.it/cr35 | Nov 19 21:40 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Owners’ Rights Initiative - http://bit.ly/UPGiBn "We believe in the fundamental premise that if you bought it, you own it" #us | Nov 19 21:44 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/22a12ec0-3255-11e2-916a-00144feabdc0.html | Nov 19 21:44 |
schestowitz | Intel is fucked | Nov 19 21:44 |
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schestowitz | Android is helping ARM | Nov 19 21:45 |
schestowitz | and Vista 8 will deter buyers of x86 | Nov 19 21:45 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] maybe not, but you knew that was roughly how old it was, & that nobody *seriously* doubts it, because it's not a fairy tale... | Nov 19 21:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] In case you missed the announcement on Friday, 500px is now CC-compatible. http://bit.ly/U4027B | Nov 19 21:52 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Word of the day poop-noddy #language. | Nov 19 21:55 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Crivins 41 recorded, will be out later | Nov 19 21:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Got one of those Apple computers. I have absolutely no idea what to do with it. | Nov 19 22:02 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Nah, I just put in a drawer. I'll keep using my ThinkPad for now. | Nov 19 22:07 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119346 | Nov 19 22:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://goo.gl/K5W5B) #Image #Picture #Science #BlackHole - Black holes defy the very laws of #physics and devour anything that gets in their way. These cosmic destroyers are objects of infinite density compacted into a very small space. - http://goo.gl/jK6Rq - http://goo.gl/GJ1nv http://goo.gl/K5W5B | Nov 19 22:10 |
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schestowitz | "Yeah, sure. Of course it's just a theory, but pretty probable one ;) However, it's not that our normal laws cease to exist totally and only quantum mechanics applies. Both regular [classic physics] and quantum physics laws are not accurate to describe such singularities in a full way." | Nov 19 22:10 |
schestowitz | "frogs are disgusting. period." | Nov 19 22:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Add *.tynt.com/* to your adblocker. Stops pretty much all of those sites from doing it. | Nov 19 22:10 | |
schestowitz | [21:20] <iophk> I am surprised that Intellectual Ventures was not promoted. that's one of the biggest if not the biggest | Nov 19 22:11 |
schestowitz | I can't access the article | Nov 19 22:11 |
schestowitz | because I'm in the UK anfd i's a British site | Nov 19 22:11 |
schestowitz | can someone look in: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20121116-phone-patents-an-absurd-battle/2 and pick out the bits about Intellectual Vultures? | Nov 19 22:11 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Can't imagine anything like this ever happening in India http://ur1.ca/b4484... http://b1t.it/cr4n | Nov 19 22:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kuro: Catholic anti-gay protesters violently attack pro-gay demonstrators (Washington Post) http://is.gd/E9kd1p #secular | Nov 19 22:51 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @DrMatthewAshton: This is a church effectively set up to allow a King to get a divorce and suddenly it's now all about the word of God | Nov 19 22:59 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europatent latest rumour: is it "bye-bye, infringement"? - http://bit.ly/101gvMk if true, this will be a disaster of epic proportions... | Nov 19 23:04 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [new URL] Europatent latest rumour: is it "bye-bye, infringement"? - bit.ly/TcwuUs if true, will be a disaster of epic proportions | Nov 19 23:09 | |
schestowitz | meh | Nov 19 23:13 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2119346 | Nov 19 23:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://goo.gl/K5W5B) #Image #Picture #Science #BlackHole - Black holes defy the very laws of #physics and devour anything that gets in their way. These cosmic destroyers are objects of infinite density compacted into a very small space. - http://goo.gl/jK6Rq - http://goo.gl/GJ1nv http://goo.gl/K5W5B | Nov 19 23:15 |
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schestowitz | "but the black hole is a singularity. our NORMAL laws cease to exist. we just dont KNOW what happens (and probably will never know?)." | Nov 19 23:15 |
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schestowitz | : https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2112686 | Nov 19 23:15 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Next #Fedora Release Will Be Named Schrodinger's Cat http://www.muktware.com/4826/next-fedora-release-will-be-named-schrodingers-cat #gnu #linux | Nov 19 23:15 |
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schestowitz | "Why don't you like Fedora? Like I don't like their association with Red Hat and Red Hat's association with capitalism but otherwise Fedora is actually a pretty decent distro and I feel it makes a lot of sound technical decisions especially in comparison with the Ubuntu camp which is why I use it. Hell I'm even writing this from Beefy Miracle right now." | Nov 19 23:15 |
MinceR | gn | Nov 19 23:16 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I admire your positivity... | Nov 19 23:22 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @unseenstudio: #Crivins episode 41 is oot and a nooz packed show it wis an awe http://ur1.ca/b48i9 | Nov 19 23:34 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RIAA Hammers Google With DMCA Takedowns In Six Strikes Prelude http://goo.gl/IY0i3 | Nov 19 23:45 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Young Students Hiding Academic Talent To Avoid Bullying http://goo.gl/iPceW | Nov 19 23:47 | |
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