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| MinceR | i think the usa is fucked up regardless of guns | Dec 16 01:11 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: removing mil grade guns from the Australian streets did not reduce crime but has lowed death rate from crime. | Dec 16 01:27 |
| oiaohm | Panicked human with automatic weapons is not a good thing. | Dec 16 01:27 |
| schestowitz | "Panicked" | Dec 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | makes the shooter sound so innocent | Dec 16 02:03 |
| schestowitz | I "Panicked", sorry | Dec 16 02:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Lot of shooters start off with a gun to scare people in giving money. | Dec 16 02:06 |
| schestowitz | in the US, the victims pulls out a handgun and you have a saloon scene | Dec 16 02:30 |
| schestowitz | and deaths, also of bystanders | Dec 16 02:30 |
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| schestowitz | wth | Dec 16 13:13 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 16 13:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2198097 | Dec 16 14:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Have you ever wondered what a hero looks like? Well here's one, Vicki Soto age 27 a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary. When the shooting started she hid her 1st graders in closets and cabinets. When the shooter came to her room there was no place for her to hide, she told him that her kids were in the gym. She was killed but none of her kids were injured. We salute you Ms. Soto, as there is a spec | Dec 16 14:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | Photo by leaaaa@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5e99cc4de7172a0aa8e3.jpg | Dec 16 14:27 |
| schestowitz | "It's easy to call victims heroes. It's hard to change the actual reality so the stuff like that massacre would never happen again. Feeling for others, praying - it's all great, but you need to change the way things are in USA. Otherwise you'll have much, much more bad stuff going on more often than ever before." | Dec 16 14:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2198023 | Dec 16 14:28 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I installed #gallery3 last week. It improved a lot. Simple to use, similar to FB interface, nice themes. http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Wedding-Collage-Collection | Dec 16 14:28 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, pretty good piece of software. It works pretty cool and it's very responsive. I remember using it for my own galleries back in the days. Nowadays I just don't need such things, as I usually create text-oriented content." | Dec 16 14:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2198087 | Dec 16 14:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Can you imagine a world without lawyers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u9JAt6gFqM thanks, Fernando | Dec 16 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | "Lawyers are there to take people's responsibility away. Save another rich ass from being responsible for the shit he does." | Dec 16 14:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2198060 | Dec 16 14:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wings for people with joysticks http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/14/raf-drone-pilots-wings-badge joystick - the joy of aiming at families. Such hard work http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/pain-continues-after-war-for-american-drone-pilot-a-872726.html #uk #raf | Dec 16 14:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: RAF drone pilots to get their own wings | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 109.65 KB | Dec 16 14:30 |
| schestowitz | "It is difficult to kill people. Like snipers before them, they have terrible regrets because they can see the faces of their victims. Unlike snipers, they can't turn away. They are ordered to watch. "No, that was a dog." They frequently have nervous breakdowns." | Dec 16 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: do you know this writer? http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/12/12/surveillance_ecuador_implements_speech_technology_center_s_facial_and_voice.html | Dec 16 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | sounds like PR to me | Dec 16 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2199456 | Dec 16 18:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @wikileaks As a result of the banking blockade WikiLeaks main account now has a mere $1500 left. | Dec 16 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "What ever happened to the foundation that was supposed to be setup? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/20/wikileaks-500-day-banking-blockade" | Dec 16 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/mehulved/statuses/280353559495712769 | Dec 16 18:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | @mehulved: @schestowitz @kracetheking it's the websites, not the browsers. I face similar problem with Chromium too. | Dec 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2199373 | Dec 16 18:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | @linux@joindiaspora.com: RT @bkuhn #Microsoft once called my work "Unamerican cancer". !Canonical calls it "McCarthyism" ur1.ca/byl1i Wealthy people.. | Dec 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 18:13 |
| schestowitz | /************ Jan Wildeboer *********** Nice try. I would say those that mix proprietary stuff and FOSS are the ones that are insecure and cannot decide. The FOSS people made up their mind and have strong beliefs. And McCarthy? Really? *** https://plus.google.com/u/0/112648813199640203443/posts/fiFsvWsfube ******/ | Dec 16 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | My own comments can be found here, https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/LTxZ3vQz1iQ | Dec 16 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Dec 16 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | We are dealing with people who are ill who are not getting any care because inthe USA you have no health care system worth talking about it - we are talking about a society that knowlingly ignores problems in society unless it can make money out of them. | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | With regard to people having guns - most people do not have guns - regardless of the laws - and most people would not go out shooting others even if they had guns - after all there are plenty of other ways to kill people if you are a killer. | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | I love it when people talk about the rest of society as if they are crazy and the person speaking is the only sane one. | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | If you believe guns are the cause, and not the means, then in the 19th century, in both the UK and the USA, there must have been massacres everywhere. | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | As I have tried to point out - stricter licencing does not seem to stop mentally or emotionally disturbed people. But no one is listening to facts. the usual lazy thinking - mixing up two different phenomenas, despite the proof that massacres - and worse massacres - have taken place without the use of guns, and there is no point in legislating away the means of massacres if you still insist on ignoring the causes. | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | As I said - if there are no guns, you'll have bombs or maybe simply a serial killer - who can then kill by a variety of means. But go ahead - think like children hoping that legislation will solve all problems. | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Remember though that criminals are well known for breaking the law - so gun laws don't affect them and that mentally ill people will find a way to express their illness unless society offers treatment for them. | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 19:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2198097 | Dec 16 19:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Have you ever wondered what a hero looks like? Well here's one, Vicki Soto age 27 a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary. When the shooting started she hid her 1st graders in closets and cabinets. When the shooter came to her room there was no place for her to hide, she told him that her kids were in the gym. She was killed but none of her kids were injured. We salute you Ms. Soto, as there is a spec | Dec 16 19:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | Photo by leaaaa@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5e99cc4de7172a0aa8e3.jpg | Dec 16 19:50 |
| schestowitz | I agree with Marc on this one. Assault rifles (automatic) are banned for civilian use in the US because they enable indiscriminate killing. I suggest going a step further and ban firearms too. A crazed man is then left with fewer options with which to carry out massacres. | Dec 16 19:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 19:56 |
| schestowitz | do you really believe that giving everyone a weapon will solve the problem of gun use? | Dec 16 19:56 |
| schestowitz | give guns to everyone - what the hell are you talking about ??? | Dec 16 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Can you drop your obsession with guns - talk about binary thinking! One minute no guns - then everybody should have guns! | Dec 16 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Concentrate on what can be done in the community - e.g. social workers and what can be done to improve the health system so that money is not the cause of people seeking help for themselves or their loved ones, neighbours etc. | Dec 16 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Guns aren't the issues - ask Londoners where we've had tube trains, buses and pubs blown up by very emotionally disturbed people. | Dec 16 19:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Bombs take a lot of work to make. Putting many guns in circulation makes them easy to get a hold of, just as it's not trivial to get a hold of hard drugs. One who is desperate to get them will, but don't make that easy; | Dec 16 19:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Roy - assualt rifles shouldn't even be on the market - even their export should be - and usually is - restricted. | Dec 16 19:58 |
| schestowitz | But once again - the problem is being avoided. | Dec 16 19:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 19:58 |
| schestowitz | "Well, we certainly agree on the fact that the healthcare in USA probobly sucks. That's something. Stricter licencing does not seem to stop mentally or emotionally disturbed people. Agreed on that. But it - at least - doesn't give them more powerful [than knife, fork, etc] weapon to attack others. I'm amazed why people can't see this simple fact. Or maybe they just don't want to admit it? I don't know. Serial killer equipped | Dec 16 20:00 |
| schestowitz | with a knife can't do such instantenous, wide-scale crap like school massacre with guns. He usually hides and he kills people one by one at the time. But that's just a detail. Ill people will always find a way to express their illness. The question is: how many people they can kill at once? is 28 not enough? I think it is more than enough. Guns allow them to kill many people in short period of time. Criminals ... well, | Dec 16 20:00 |
| schestowitz | criminals will always find a way to get a gun. Does it mean we should all arm ourself up to our teeth? of course not, this is nonsense. How many criminals are in a regular society? 80%? and why would you even need laws, police, courts, etc then? Wild west scenario is not a solution ... this will bring even more mayhem, no matter pro-gun people say. Reality shows it, and time will show it even more clearly. Just wait for | Dec 16 20:00 |
| schestowitz | another crazy massacre. I'm sure you won't have to wait too long. Just look back at other massacres that happened in USA." | Dec 16 20:00 |
| schestowitz | The problem with firearms is also that they kill from a distance, so stopping someone from using them is harder than - say - one with a knife. I'd make the distinction between "serial killers" and "mass killers". The latter are often crazed people with access to a lot of ammo/gear, whereas the former rarely need guns and they become serial because the police/FBI repeatedly fail to catch them. They're usually not dumb. | Dec 16 20:03 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m5uDXiciqk&NR=1&feature=endscreen | Dec 16 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2198097 | Dec 16 21:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Have you ever wondered what a hero looks like? Well here's one, Vicki Soto age 27 a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary. When the shooting started she hid her 1st graders in closets and cabinets. When the shooter came to her room there was no place for her to hide, she told him that her kids were in the gym. She was killed but none of her kids were injured. We salute you Ms. Soto, as there is a spec | Dec 16 21:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Photo by leaaaa@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_5e99cc4de7172a0aa8e3.jpg | Dec 16 21:15 |
| schestowitz | "Very good point, Roy." | Dec 16 21:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 21:15 |
| schestowitz | I wonder how Kafka would describe this. | Dec 16 21:15 |
| schestowitz | There are 350 million people in the United States. | Dec 16 21:16 |
| schestowitz | One person commits a massacre. | Dec 16 21:16 |
| schestowitz | Instead of looking at that one person to discover the cause, the proposed solution is to remove yet another right from the other 350 million people - who don't commit massacres. | Dec 16 21:16 |
| schestowitz | I have absolutely nothing more to say. All sense of proportion has been lost. | Dec 16 21:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 16 21:16 |
| schestowitz | "@harry - but you realize that this massacre is not the only one? It happens AGAIN. It's not even second massacre in USA. It's ofe of many ... that's the problem. The cause is already known - ill people with access to guns." | Dec 16 21:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2199437 | Dec 16 21:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Firefox is a #DDOS attack on one's RAM. I've lost count on how many times it moved everything to swap. #mozilla | Dec 16 21:16 |
| schestowitz | "If you have leaky add-ons it can be the reason. I don't have any problems with RAM using Firefox." | Dec 16 21:16 |
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