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qu1j0t3http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/11/29/2331246/nasa-curiosity-has-found-plastic-on-marsNov 30 00:24
TechrightsSocialTitle: NASA: Curiosity Has Found Plastic On Mars - Slashdot .::. Size~: 180.66 KBNov 30 00:24
XFaCEqu1j0t3: faker than fakeNov 30 00:31
*qu1j0t3 checks dateNov 30 00:32
schestowitzlolNov 30 00:44
schestowitzhttp://nasaupdatecenter.us/press.htmlNov 30 00:44
TechrightsSocialTitle: Mars Exploration Rover Mission:                  Press Releases .::. Size~: 25.57 KBNov 30 00:44
schestowitzlet's check the sourceNov 30 00:44
schestowitzadmin@nasaupdatecenter.usNov 30 00:45
schestowitzwell, does NASA make such claims too?Nov 30 00:45
schestowitzThis is not an official NASA outletNov 30 00:45
schestowitzseems like an attempt at attention grabbingNov 30 00:45
schestowitzbecause plastic is a generic termNov 30 00:45
schestowitzthey make good headlines thoughNov 30 00:46
schestowitzman bites dog Nov 30 00:46
schestowitz!google life based on arsenicNov 30 00:46
TechrightsSocial[1] - 'Arsenic-life' bacterium prefers phosphorus after all : Nature News ... | http://www.nature.com/news/arsenic-life-bacterium-prefers-phosphorus-after-all-1.11520Nov 30 00:46
TechrightsSocial[2] - Study challenges existence of arsenic-based life : Nature News ... | http://www.nature.com/news/study-challenges-existence-of-arsenic-based-life-1.9861Nov 30 00:46
TechrightsSocial[3] - NASA Unveils Arsenic Life Form | Wired Science | Wired.com | http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/12/nasa-finds-arsenic-life-form/Nov 30 00:46
TechrightsSocial[4] - The NASA study of arsenic-based life was fatally flawed, say ... | http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2010/12/this_paper_should_not_have_been_published.htmlNov 30 00:46
schestowitzsee []Nov 30 00:46
schestowitz[4]Nov 30 00:46
XFaCEschestowitz: I saw a silcon-based life form once.Nov 30 00:52
schestowitzintel chip is no life :-)Nov 30 01:00
schestowitz(nor fake boobs)Nov 30 01:00
qu1j0t3XFaCE: https://twitter.com/EverettColdwell/status/274329885005213696Nov 30 01:54
TechrightsSocial@EverettColdwell: Greens leader Elizabeth May accuses Coservatives of sabotaging climate talks - Politics - CBC News http://t.co/fopIwKwl #cdnpoliNov 30 01:54
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Greens leader accuses Tories of sabotaging climate talks - Politics - CBC News .::. Size~: 52 KBNov 30 01:54
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2151549Nov 30 02:27
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bank of Canada Governor is from #GoldmanSachs - Nice coup you got there, #harper http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2012/11/mark-carney-vs-andy-haldane-the-bank-of-canada-governor-is-wrong-on-too-big-to-fail-and-wrong-on-canadas-banking-system.htmlNov 30 02:27
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Mark Carney VS Andy Haldane - The Bank of Canada Governor is Wrong on Too Big To Fail and Wrong on Canada's Banking System - New Economic Perspectives .::. Size~: 88.3 KBNov 30 02:28
schestowitz"they make a fake copy of http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/technology/ :) "Nov 30 02:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: Mars Exploration Rover Mission: Technology .::. Size~: 21.76 KBNov 30 02:30
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2151269Nov 30 02:30
TechrightsSocial@emberleaf@diasp.org: *Plastic* Discovered On Mars: http://nasaupdatecenter.us/press.html #wtf #mars #curiosityNov 30 02:30
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Mars Exploration Rover Mission:                  Press Releases .::. Size~: 25.57 KBNov 30 02:30
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/98141130Nov 30 02:42
TechrightsSocial@laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Nov-12 23:27:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz They never have trouble coming up with justifications to blow up and kill; but bailing out people is #socialismNov 30 02:42
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/98138109Nov 30 02:43
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Nov-12 20:17:49 UTC - Identi.ca: RD @mrdenticator Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 112 dents! Congratulations @schestowitzNov 30 02:43
schestowitzit's like going 24 months back in timeNov 30 02:43
qu1j0t31 2 3Nov 30 02:44
qu1j0t3wow schestowitz Nov 30 02:44
qu1j0t3a lotNov 30 02:44
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/moadaldabbagh/status/274298826670616577Nov 30 02:48
TechrightsSocial@moadaldabbagh: talk about vulgar - Examining the 3 Palestinian-Punishment Focused Efforts in the Senate - Americans for Peace Now: http://t.co/PMjY1XbbNov 30 02:48
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Examining the 3 Palestinian-Punishment Focused Efforts in the Senate - Americans for Peace Now .::. Size~: 37.03 KBNov 30 02:48
XFaCEqu1j0t3: she doesn't really need to accuseNov 30 03:37
XFaCE:PNov 30 03:37
XFaCEIT's like accusing fire of burning :PNov 30 03:37
qu1j0t3The Fire! It Burns!Nov 30 03:44
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/JorgeO/status/274300102611460098Nov 30 04:15
TechrightsSocial@JorgeO: Honestly don't understand the opposition to recognizing Palestine as a state. Doesn't a two-state solution require... two states?Nov 30 04:15
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/tomflem/status/274366253462855680Nov 30 04:19
TechrightsSocial@tomflem: Palestinian UN statehood bid gets thumbs up (CBC) http://t.co/sAr5ZFij No thanks to #Harper. #DenounceHarperNov 30 04:20
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Palestinian UN statehood bid gets thumbs up - World - CBC News .::. Size~: 56.49 KBNov 30 04:20
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MinceRhttp://www.pidjin.net/2010/10/17/popeup/Nov 30 13:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Pope Up | Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. .::. Size~: 12.28 KBNov 30 13:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2151344Nov 30 13:19
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It seems like a hoax has made it into Slashdot's front page. Editors #fail I guess.Nov 30 13:19
schestowitz"yep. someone fucked up."Nov 30 13:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2151388Nov 30 13:20
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: HeheNov 30 13:20
TechrightsSocial  Photo by tcheskozenclown@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_d735a3bd12ba76649ef4.jpgNov 30 13:20
schestowitz"Animal print too, awesome. It's fun, you know http://173.21.69.124/photoalbum/chron/1978/19780401-shambattleinlouisarmstrongpark/ "Nov 30 13:20
schestowitz"Floated around on g+ too. I'm disappointed to learn Mardi Gras beads have not been found on Mars yet."Nov 30 13:20
MinceRhttp://www.pidjin.net/2009/02/16/killer-iphone/Nov 30 13:24
TechrightsSocialTitle: Too late, Mr. Jobs! (COMIC) | Fredo and Pidjin. The Webcomic. .::. Size~: 10.77 KBNov 30 13:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2152272Nov 30 13:30
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://goo.gl/8cusT) #Image #Picture - Loading #WeekendNov 30 13:30
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeNov 30 13:30
schestowitz"Why it doens't load faster?!"Nov 30 13:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2152411Nov 30 13:31
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/8/1/EED4aZ7YbUu5VaJ9DhW2vQ2.jpg)   #creative #fun #humorNov 30 13:31
TechrightsSocial-> Title: 404 - File or directory not found. .::. Size~: 1.22 KBNov 30 13:31
schestowitz"I don't care. I am a real man and real man eat plants."Nov 30 13:31
oiaohm_schestowitz: fun is eating winter squash leaves.   They are really nice in a slow cook dish.Nov 30 13:32
oiaohm_schestowitz: but there is no way you would eat them not cooked.Nov 30 13:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2151497Nov 30 13:33
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: #GNOME finally pays some attention to users  http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/57679-gnome-finally-pays-some-attention-to-users http://deindre.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/gnome-an-outer-glance/Nov 30 13:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: GNOME finally pays some attention to users .::. Size~: 120.13 KBNov 30 13:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: GNOME, an outer glance. | Code is Poetry .::. Size~: 42.8 KBNov 30 13:33
schestowitz"Oh Mate is ok, sorta but I really like GNOME 3 :P"Nov 30 13:33
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XFaCEschestowitz: OMG royNov 30 14:19
XFaCEMy Marketing Textbook actually criticizes MicrosoftNov 30 14:19
XFaCEread:Nov 30 14:19
XFaCE"Microsoft was criticized when the software company offered to pay "travel costs" for professors if they presented papers at conferences and mentioned how Microsoft programs helped them in their work.[24]"Nov 30 14:20
XFaCEyea, it's mild, but it's something I suppsoeNov 30 14:21
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*Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell-social for http://TechRights.org | Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovellNov 30 15:25
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schestowitzXFaCE: goodNov 30 15:31
schestowitztechrights covered thisNov 30 15:31
XFaCEah, that makes sense; this textbook is recentNov 30 15:32
schestowitzFanboys https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_5959e54dd56f13fc0f39.jpgNov 30 15:34
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schestowitzAfter a month and a half of uptime I decided to reboot my machine (clearing the swap). Trouble is, the login screen would not come up. Or so I thought. I let it settle there with the monitors off assuming it was fscking a disk. After almost an hour trying that I suspected a GPU issue (my dual-head setup on the right-hand-side machine puts "primary" in opposites), but then I discovered that it was just Kubuntu complaining that Nov 30 15:41
schestowitzit could not mount an external drive (which I could not see without swapping display port). Anyway, back to normal now... been a bad day after that / partition overrun, though I seem to have lost no data, just time (restoring everything to proper state). The reboot also cleared a PGP lockup.Nov 30 15:41
XFaCEqu1j0t3: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/11/30/poli-canada-baird-palestine-united-nations.htmlNov 30 15:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Canada recalls diplomats after Palestinians win UN vote - Canada - CBC News .::. Size~: 52.64 KBNov 30 15:41
XFaCEFucking Harper clownNov 30 15:41
schestowitzXFaCE: so wwird. Canada chose to portray itself as a little puppy of Zionists, not wise;...Nov 30 15:42
schestowitzIt's embarassing Canada todayNov 30 15:42
schestowitzit's usualyl just US+Israel+some incognito islandsNov 30 15:43
schestowitzChomsky says soNov 30 15:43
schestowitzit has been like this for ages and it  helps show where lobbyists roam wideNov 30 15:43
MinceRdid the usa do something similar about this?Nov 30 15:43
schestowitzabout what?Nov 30 15:44
schestowitzyes, it didNov 30 15:44
schestowitzvotes against state of Plastine to be recognisedNov 30 15:44
XFaCEMinceR: Yes, but everyone knew they wouldNov 30 15:44
schestowitzIIRC, most Israelis are ij favour tooNov 30 15:44
schestowitzBut their government is dominated by religious nutcasesNov 30 15:44
XFaCEschestowitz: same hereNov 30 15:45
XFaCEmaybe slightly less religiousNov 30 15:45
MinceR:>Nov 30 15:45
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/274492573849092096 http://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi/statuses/274505799257174016Nov 30 16:25
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz: A loophole for software patents in Europe is making its way into law while many vigilant people are very busy or on vac http://t.co/x8BquACqNov 30 16:25
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Attempts to Make Unitary Patent Mess Before Xmas | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.94 KBNov 30 16:25
TechrightsSocial@JorgeStolfi: Microsoft em dificuldades, teve prejuízo no último trimestre? http://t.co/X3hW1lWmNov 30 16:25
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Amid Layoffs, Microsoft to Publicly Report Quarterly Losses | Techrights .::. Size~: 93.97 KBNov 30 16:25
schestowitzre NokiaNov 30 16:26
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2152830Nov 30 16:26
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: Why Would #Nokia Want to Hire an Android Expert?  http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/11/why-would-nokia-want-to-hire-an-android-expert/ #linux #androidNov 30 16:27
schestowitz"They're regretting windows already."Nov 30 16:27
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Why Would Nokia Want to Hire an Android Expert? | Gizmodo UK .::. Size~: 72.22 KBNov 30 16:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2153110Nov 30 16:27
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: After a month and a half of uptime I decided to reboot my machine (clearing the swap). Trouble is, the login screen would not come up. Or so I thought. I let it settle there with the monitors off assuming it was fscking a disk. After almost an hour trying that I suspected a GPU issue (my dual-head setup on the right-hand-side machine puts "primary" in opposites), but then I discovered that it was just KubNov 30 16:27
schestowitz"I dread rebooting my old pc - the bios sometimes doesn't see any disks - then it takes about 3 reboots till it seems them. And 1tb fscking? There must be another solution. :) Sounds like you have a nice setup. I still haven't worked out yet how to connect my two pcs."Nov 30 16:27
schestowitzsynergy, ssh, kio slaves, LAN, folderview...Nov 30 16:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2153110Nov 30 17:12
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: After a month and a half of uptime I decided to reboot my machine (clearing the swap). Trouble is, the login screen would not come up. Or so I thought. I let it settle there with the monitors off assuming it was fscking a disk. After almost an hour trying that I suspected a GPU issue (my dual-head setup on the right-hand-side machine puts "primary" in opposites), but then I discovered that it was just KubNov 30 17:12
schestowitz"that's a long uptime. :)"Nov 30 17:12
schestowitzLognest I've had was almost a yearNov 30 17:12
MinceRthat's what she said.Nov 30 17:13
schestowitzno pillzNov 30 17:15
MinceR:>Nov 30 17:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2151476Nov 30 17:15
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Seamonkey Internet suite review - Hmm  http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/seamonkey-internet-suite.html @fcassia is the only person whom I know that still uses itNov 30 17:15
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Seamonkey Internet suite review - Hmm .::. Size~: 16.81 KBNov 30 17:15
schestowitz"... well, me use it beside Aurora'n Opera, it's musch faster than all others ... tres tres simple, no bullshit implied ..."Nov 30 17:15
schestowitz"... well, me use it beside Aurora'n Opera, it's much faster than all others ... tres tres simple, no bullshit implied ..."Nov 30 17:16
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XFaCEhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/julian-assange/wikileaks-bradley-manning-testifies-cablegate_b_2215387.htmlNov 30 18:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: Julian Assange: Two Years of Cablegate as Bradley Manning Testifies for the First Time .::. Size~: 334.84 KBNov 30 18:54
XFaCEhttp://techrights.org/2012/11/30/microsoft-lies-about-sales/Nov 30 19:11
TechrightsSocialTitle: Microsoft Fails Miserably to Sell Vista 8, Hardware With Vista 8, and Vista Phone 8 | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.16 KBNov 30 19:11
XFaCEschestowitz: ahh hypeNov 30 19:12
XFaCEschestowitz: Microsoft built a very pretty house of cards.  Too bad it's only a house of cardsNov 30 19:12
XFaCEToo bad for them it isNov 30 19:15
XFaCEEventually, you need something called substanceNov 30 19:15
schestowitzpatents? :-)Nov 30 19:21
XFaCElolNov 30 19:23
XFaCEschestowitz: Better sure the way you cut turkey isn't violating patents :PNov 30 19:23
XFaCEPatents are only as substantive as the benefits to overall society that comes from them.Nov 30 19:24
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XFaCEWhich is why patent trolls have no substance; they are societal drains, parasites.Nov 30 19:30
XFaCEThe same substantive analogy could be applied to the whole patent system in general or any "idea monopoly" law provisionsNov 30 19:31
MinceRhttp://blog.bennydacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/html5-or-not.jpgNov 30 20:15
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeNov 30 20:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2153640Nov 30 21:02
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### How the ITU could put the internet behind closed doors.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzNQarkk95Q   Stop the Internet Coup http://www.internetcoup.org/it/   In December, the world’s governments will convene for the World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT), a meeting hosted by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), a UN agency. Some governments' proposals at tNov 30 21:02
TechrightsSocial-> Title: How the ITU could put the internet behind closed doors. - YouTube .::. Size~: 187.41 KBNov 30 21:02
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Stop the Internet Coup - don't give dictators power over the Net .::. Size~: 57.7 KBNov 30 21:02
TechrightsSocial-> Title: NO TITLE .::. Size~: 0.02 KBNov 30 21:02
schestowitz"This would be a good point to tell governments that they are not acting in our name (as with the EU treaties) and therefore the agreements are illegal. Civil disobedience - but how do we do that on the internet? With the poll tax some simply refused to pay and there were demos - but politicians have proven since Iraq (at the latest) that they are totally immune to demonstrations. The ISP is always the weakest link in the Nov 30 21:02
schestowitzsystem. Can alternatives be found?"Nov 30 21:02
schestowitzhttp://www.fair.org/blog/2012/11/30/nyt-undercounts-drone-deaths-in-pakistan/Nov 30 21:42
TechrightsSocialTitle: NYT Undercounts Drone Deaths in Pakistan .::. Size~: 42.73 KBNov 30 21:42
schestowitzqu1j0t3: one for the bookmarksNov 30 21:43

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