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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2337384 | Feb 04 00:25 |
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| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mediafire Swaps “Pirate” Links for “Buy Now” Button https://torrentfreak.com/mediafire-swaps-pirate-links-for-buy-now-button-130202/ #copyright | Feb 04 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | "The dogs of Copyright attack once again, i'm angry to have files in their server >:(" | Feb 04 00:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2337201 | Feb 04 00:25 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sane http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1lsddSarv1qzxe0uo1_500.jpg | Feb 04 00:25 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Feb 04 00:25 |
| schestowitz | "Reality is not for sane people . . ." | Feb 04 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2337308 | Feb 04 10:56 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NYT: "In order to access our Web site, your Web browser must accept cookies from NYTimes.com." Meaning: our biz model spying-based. | Feb 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz | "And my answer would be "ok, but they'll be deleted at the end of the session, by my intelligent browser, haaa haaaa" :P" | Feb 04 10:56 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2334891 | Feb 04 10:57 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @onekade Sorry WaPo reporters that your owners are such idiots that they just gave your server to the NSA. Bye bye all your sources. | Feb 04 10:57 |
| schestowitz | "They were already using non free software, so it is unlikely the sources were unknown. The owners probably knew this all along and only withhold secrets they care about by not putting them in computers. We don't see evidence of this kind of thinking from any big publisher so it is difficult to tell just how dumb they are." | Feb 04 10:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2335010 | Feb 04 10:57 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Terrorism as economic stimulus for US http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M1C87CZwgAE money in it | Feb 04 10:57 |
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| schestowitz | "OK, I watched it. That was more spirited than I expected." | Feb 04 10:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ku2ld8 | Feb 04 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | lol http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/02/01/fashion-advice-at-the-dia-makeup-makes-you-more-attractive | Feb 04 12:40 |
| MinceR | o_O | Feb 04 12:41 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340526 | Feb 04 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "so finally Windows Phones will be useful!" | Feb 04 17:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://tommorris.org/posts/8070 | Feb 04 18:50 |
| MinceR | as paperweights? :> | Feb 04 18:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no bot | Feb 04 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RobThez/statuses/298486324808265728 | Feb 04 19:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @RobThez: @schestowitz I greatly appreciate what you do for digital rights and such. However, I take a small issue on your article about UEFI bricking | Feb 04 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RobThez/statuses/298486557973835777 | Feb 04 19:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @RobThez: @schestowitz specifically, calling my Linux User article out about Git support on TFS as being pro-Microsoft. That was not the case at all | Feb 04 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RobThez/statuses/298486901436973057 | Feb 04 19:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @RobThez: @schestowitz I had not heard about the Samsung laptop issue when I wrote it. Obviously that's not much of an excuse, I should be aware of it | Feb 04 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RobThez/statuses/298487062988980225 | Feb 04 19:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | @RobThez: @schestowitz but, we're not the villain here. I'm not the villain here. In the future I will try to make sure I'm more up to date though | Feb 04 19:15 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/RobThez/statuses/298487996347449345 | Feb 04 19:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | @RobThez: @schestowitz either way, it's news, it's a thing, it's important. We also weren't arguing it makes up for the negative effects of UEFI | Feb 04 19:16 |
| schestowitz | I didn't claim th mag to be pro-Microsoft, but maybe the link structure made it look so. It wasn't intentional and I noticed this before posting. | Feb 04 19:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340551 | Feb 04 19:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Atheist #SuperBowl Commercial Thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcPjAH2iHQ | Feb 04 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | " | Feb 04 19:33 |
| schestowitz | News Flash: Man-made buildings are proof of Yahweh's existence. | Feb 04 19:33 |
| schestowitz | It must be faith-based to reject the claim that Santa exists too. Perhaps I should have faith in the Almighty Red One. I suppose the existence of Buddhist temples are proof of the existence of karma and rebirth and the existence of Hindu temples do the same for the existence of Shiva. I've been lying under a supreme delusion for oh-so-many years! | Feb 04 19:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340589 | Feb 04 19:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Old trick in the books is, say you don't seek greed, just to help children. If opposition arises, say it's against those children. | Feb 04 19:33 |
| schestowitz | "What, you don't want to protect children??? :P" | Feb 04 19:33 |
| MinceR | coexisting buildings prove things that contradict each other? :> | Feb 04 19:34 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 04 19:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340551 | Feb 04 19:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Atheist #SuperBowl Commercial Thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcPjAH2iHQ | Feb 04 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | " | Feb 04 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Church, the claim that God does not exist is a real claim. Atheism is not just a reaction to religious claims. It makes a positive claim about the world. i.e that a supreme being does not exist. That claim is unprovable. | Feb 04 19:36 |
| schestowitz | You can choose to believe that a supreme being does not exist, based upon the fact that believers can not prove it to you, but don't claim that your belief is based on science or logic. | Feb 04 19:36 |
| schestowitz | After all Church if I can't prove to you that I dream't of a cat last night, that does not mean that I did not dream of a cat. | Feb 04 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Shannon, I was hoping for a serious response. Sadly I almost never get one from the atheists. Another day, same old shit. | Feb 04 19:36 |
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| schestowitz | lol | Feb 04 19:36 |
| schestowitz | insert santa, unicorns, etc. to this argument | Feb 04 19:37 |
| schestowitz | you can't prove they don't exist, thus exist! | Feb 04 19:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340551 | Feb 04 20:19 |
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| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Atheist #SuperBowl Commercial Thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcPjAH2iHQ | Feb 04 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | Atheism doesn't (necessarily) make a positive claim. It necessarily rejects a positive claim, namely that a deity exists. Your entire understanding of atheism is based on a falsehood. | Feb 04 20:19 |
| schestowitz | > Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. ~ Wikipedia | Feb 04 20:19 |
| schestowitz | This is why atheism is, in its most general form, exactly equivalent to rejecting the claims that Santa/Shiva/Karma/Rebirth exists. | Feb 04 20:19 |
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| schestowitz | "Now that I think about it, it's pretty retarded to be a theist and think you can tell atheists what or how they think." | Feb 04 20:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340551 | Feb 04 20:20 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Atheist #SuperBowl Commercial Thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcPjAH2iHQ | Feb 04 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | "Ridiculous theistic claims demand ridicule." | Feb 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340551 | Feb 04 20:47 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Atheist #SuperBowl Commercial Thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcPjAH2iHQ | Feb 04 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | " | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Shannon I did not say Atheism is not a rejection of a belief in deities. I said that atheism makes the claim that deities do not exist. That rejection is a positive claim. Here is why: | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | If I claim God exists and I can't prove it to you. As a matter of logic what options are left to you? | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | You can believe that God does not exist because I could not prove it. | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | or | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | You can believe that God may exist I just could not prove it. | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | In other words the belief that God does not exist does not flow necessarily and logically from the inability of theists to prove that s/he exists! | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Atheists choose to believe 1 above and that is making a claim about the world, a positive claim. After all they could always say 'I don't know' which is 2 above. | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Its up to atheist to prove why they believe 1 is true . What I am saying is that the atheists choice of 1 rather than 2 is faith based, despite the attempt to dress it up in logic and science. | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Church: | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Ridiculous theistic claims demand ridicule. | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Spoken like a true atheist fundamentalist! | Feb 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | 17 minutes ago | Feb 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | It always amazes me when I engage in these atheist-theist battles here on D* (all too frequently) who are the people using the fundamentalist, absolutist and most self righteous language. Its always the atheists. | Feb 04 20:48 |
| schestowitz | That is the best indicator that atheism is nothing more than a religion, with its neophyte acolytes as virulent and bound up in their self righteous self importance as the fundamentalists of any religion. | Feb 04 20:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2340551 | Feb 04 21:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Atheist #SuperBowl Commercial Thoughts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcPjAH2iHQ | Feb 04 21:52 |
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| schestowitz | "I feel literally dumber for having this conversation with you. You're a black hole of dumbassery, @Mbugua." | Feb 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | "aw dan how did end up with the name church?" | Feb 04 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Is atheism a religion? | Feb 04 21:57 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svUUpBoR5Q4 | Feb 04 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | " | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | tl;dr You're wrong. On the whole, atheists choose option 2. A god might exist, like Santa Claus, but we don't believe it exists. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | There are multiple positions which I will attempt to associate with the common distinctions "guilty", "not guilty", "not innocent" and "innocent" in order to explain the distinction to you. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | We have proven that a deity is guilty of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | We have not proven that a deity is guilty of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | We have proven that a deity is innocent of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | We have not proven that a deity is innocent of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | On the whole, in my experience, atheists choose 2 and 4 simultaneously for most gods. For some specific gods, some atheists might or might not believe 3 and that is called positive atheism. This is why analogies like Russell's Teapot and The Flying Spaghetti Monster are commonly used to express Occam's Razor - a principal we all accept as fundamental logic for claims such as unicorns and Santa Claus. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | And, by using Occam's Razor more consistently than theists, we do not believe any gods exist. It is the default much like "presumed innocent until proven guilty." Sure, someone can be guilty even if they're presumed innocent (and hopefully their guilt will be proven), but we don't believe they're guilty until it's proven. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | This is binary. The moment you consider the idea, you can only do one of the following with regard to the claim "at least one god exists." | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Believe at least one god exists (proven a god is guilty of existence) | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Believe no gods exist (not proven god is guilty of existence) | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Atheists usually choose option 2. This does not conflict with earlier options 2 and 4. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | And with regard to innocence... | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Believe that no gods exist (proven that all gods are innocent of existence) | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Believe that at least one god might exist (not proven that all gods are innocent of existence) | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Atheists usually choose option 2 again. This does not conflict with earlier options 2, 4 and 2. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | So, to sum up, atheists usually do the following... | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Think we have not proven that any deity is guilty of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Think we have not proven that all deities are innocent of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Believe no gods exist | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Believe that a god might exist | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | And, for some gods... | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | We have proven that the deity is innocent of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Compare with what we do with regard to unicorns. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Think we have not proven that any unicorn is guilty of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Think we have not proven that all unicorns are innocent of existence. | Feb 04 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Believe no unicorns exist | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Believe that a unicorn might exist | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | And, for some unicorns... | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | We have proven that the unicorn is innocent of existence. | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Imagine, for example, that a particular idea of a unicorn is self-contradictory (like a married bachelor, for example). | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | These actions are generally considered to be rational by the general populace when considering unicorns and atheists consider these actions to be equally applicable to gods. | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | The major atheists in the public eye appear to agree with at least some of the above. | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | The movement is commonly associated with Richard Dawkins, Daniel C. Dennett, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, and Victor J. Stenger. ~ Wikipedia on New Atheism | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | We're willing to face it since the evidence for the contrary appears to be trivial or non-existent. ~ Christopher Hitchens | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | We all know what to do in this situation. We have Russell's Teapot; we have the thousands of dead gods; and now we have a Flying Spaghetti Monster, the non-existence of which can't be proven and yet the existence of which/the belief in which is acknowledged to be ridiculous by anyone. The problem is we have to keep having the same argument over and over again. ~ Sam Harris | Feb 04 22:01 |
| schestowitz | If we said there's definitely no god - you can't say that. You can't say there's no Father Christmas. ~ Richard Dawkins | Feb 04 22:01 |
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