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schestowitzmehFeb 11 01:02
qu1j0t3yepFeb 11 01:31
XFaCEuh huhFeb 11 01:52
schestowitzqu1j0t3: vFeb 11 02:31
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/business/arrests-made-in-maple-syrup-theft-from-quebec-warehouse.html?_r=0Feb 11 02:31
TechrightsSocialTitle: Log In - The New York Times .::. Size~: 10.5 KBFeb 11 02:31
schestowitzwhat's the agenda?Feb 11 02:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/xor/status/300427415967121408Feb 11 02:31
TechrightsSocial@xor: I hope for his sake @kaepora is not suspected of involvement with the depletion of the Strategic Maple Syrup Reserves http://t.co/WBkM9bKIFeb 11 02:31
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Arrests Made in Maple Syrup Theft From Quebec Warehouse - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 47.58 KBFeb 11 02:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/xor/status/300428509430575104Feb 11 02:31
TechrightsSocial@xor: I'm joking of course. If they had suspected @kaepora was involved with the Great Maple Syrup Heist, he would've just disappeared.Feb 11 02:31
schestowitz"RT @kaepora I am under surveillance by Canadian agents and my computer has been backdoored, I have evidence: http://log.nadim.cc/?p=110 "Feb 11 02:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: Database Error .::. Size~: 0.25 KBFeb 11 02:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ioerror/status/300419018915971072Feb 11 02:34
TechrightsSocial@ioerror: @kaepora @rj_gallagher Image your machine and send a copy out of Canada asap.Feb 11 02:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ioerror/status/300419098846838784Feb 11 02:34
TechrightsSocial@ioerror: @kaepora Good job!Feb 11 02:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ioerror/status/300418630057873409Feb 11 02:34
TechrightsSocial@ioerror: Dear @kaepora - please post as many details as possible about your surveillance and help others to detect if they are similarly compromised.Feb 11 02:34
qu1j0t3schestowitz: down: http://log.nadim.cc/?p=110 :(Feb 11 02:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Database Error .::. Size~: 0.25 KBFeb 11 02:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2359212Feb 11 02:40
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT  ‏@wikileaks Secret gag order ("super injunction") issued by "free press campaigner" Jemima Khan http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Secret_gag_orders_undermine_core_Western_values http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/UK_media_secret_censorship_injunction_for_Zac_Goldsmith_and_Jemima_Khan,_18_Dec_2008Feb 11 02:40
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Secret gag orders undermine core Western values - WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 14.29 KBFeb 11 02:40
TechrightsSocial-> Title: UK media secret censorship injunction for Zac Goldsmith and Jemima Khan, 18 Dec 2008 - WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 15.46 KBFeb 11 02:40
schestowitzqu1j0t3: lots of links to it everywhereFeb 11 02:40
schestowitztoo much trafficFeb 11 02:40
schestowitzno theories needed beyond it ATMFeb 11 02:40
qu1j0t3sureFeb 11 02:42
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/300376074527854592Feb 11 02:53
TechrightsSocial@nycjim: NYT Public Editor on identifying drone base: "Keeping the government’s secrets is not the news media’s role." http://t.co/rcTvZxsfFeb 11 02:53
TechrightsSocial-> Title: National Security and the News - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 42.72 KBFeb 11 02:53
schestowitz[02:50] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] #nytimes accuses NYTimes of aiding #cia in #drone #assassination secrecy, failing to do responsible journalism http://w http://ur1.ca/crv5qFeb 11 02:53
TechrightsSocialCouldn't resolve host 'w' ( http://w )Feb 11 02:53
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qu1j0t3http://ur1.ca/crv9hFeb 11 02:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / michaelroston: Thank you @Carr2n: ... .::. Size~: 81.41 KBFeb 11 02:58
qu1j0t3guhFeb 11 02:58
schestowitztweet this https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/300291481443385344Feb 11 03:21
TechrightsSocial@wikileaks: Secret gag order ("super injunction") issued by "free press campaigner" Jemima Khan http://t.co/N5QFtnzy http://t.co/F7ZnmtU5Feb 11 03:21
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Secret gag orders undermine core Western values - WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 14.29 KBFeb 11 03:21
TechrightsSocial-> Title: UK media secret censorship injunction for Zac Goldsmith and Jemima Khan, 18 Dec 2008 - WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 15.46 KBFeb 11 03:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/300293934020710400Feb 11 03:21
TechrightsSocial@wikileaks: Guy Rundle: "There are signs of a renewed open-season on #Assange in London." http://t.co/SOa28RZh #crikeyFeb 11 03:22
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Julian Assange v Jemima Khan: hypocrisy and celebrity turncoats | Guy Rundle | Crikey .::. Size~: 60.33 KBFeb 11 03:22
schestowitzhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2012/10/10/lady-gaga-mia-more-star-supporters-of-julian-assange-photos.htmlFeb 11 03:22
schestowitz"Lady Gaga spent five hours over dinner on Monday with Julian Assange. From MIA providing the soundtrack to his Web series to Oliver Stone and Michael Moore co-authoring a New York Times op-ed, see the WikiLeaks founder’s staunchest celebrity supporters."Feb 11 03:22
TechrightsSocialTitle: Lady Gaga, MIA & More Star Supporters of Julian Assange (PHOTOS) - The Daily Beast .::. Size~: 77.92 KBFeb 11 03:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FreedomofPress/status/300342592023973888Feb 11 03:31
TechrightsSocial@FreedomofPress: Govt uses "national security" as an excuse anytime it wants to hide an inconvenient truth. The media must not comply. http://t.co/LMjpawzWFeb 11 03:31
TechrightsSocial-> Title: National Security and the News - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 42.72 KBFeb 11 03:31
qu1j0t3| @dreamhampton       The rationalization of the use of drones, here or abroad, to    Feb 11 03:47
qu1j0t3|                     locate or terminate, is maddening.                              Feb 11 03:47
qu1j0t3| ........................................  http://ur1.ca/crvwv                       Feb 11 03:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / dreamhampton: The rationalization of the ... .::. Size~: 77.1 KBFeb 11 03:47
qu1j0t3http://ur1.ca/crw6qFeb 11 04:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / trevortimm: Oh, look. The govt's leaking ... .::. Size~: 82.64 KBFeb 11 04:05
qu1j0t3| @trevortimm         Oh, look. The govt's leaking classified info to push its own   Feb 11 04:06
qu1j0t3|  retweeted by       narrative: the great cyber-threat, just in time for CISPA.     Feb 11 04:06
qu1j0t3|  @kgosztola         http://t.co/oRntu4v7                                           Feb 11 04:06
qu1j0t3| ........................................  http://ur1.ca/crw6q                      Feb 11 04:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: U.S. said to be target of massive cyber-espionage campaign - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 188.36 KBFeb 11 04:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / trevortimm: Oh, look. The govt's leaking ... .::. Size~: 82.62 KBFeb 11 04:06
qu1j0t3 | @dreamhampton       I'm only talking to people about drones if they've read      Feb 11 04:09
qu1j0t3 |                     '09's "Wired For War" http://t.co/Rkgrsa83                   Feb 11 04:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Wired for War .::. Size~: 19.46 KBFeb 11 04:09
qu1j0t3 | ........................................  http://ur1.ca/crw7u                    Feb 11 04:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / dreamhampton: I'm only talking to people ... .::. Size~: 80.86 KBFeb 11 04:09
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/zaytouni_rana/status/300819992813912064#Feb 11 04:16
TechrightsSocial@zaytouni_rana: US announced theyre using drones on their own soil to find and 'eliminate' fugitive LAPD officer, Christopher DornerFeb 11 04:17
qu1j0t3schestowitz: ^^Feb 11 04:17
qu1j0t3| @drones             Torture architect John Yoo says the problem with the drones  Feb 11 04:18
qu1j0t3|  retweeted by       memo is there's *too much* due process. Seriously.           Feb 11 04:18
qu1j0t3|  @trevortimm        http://t.co/Zg5Wm4lS                                         Feb 11 04:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: John Yoo: The Real Problem With Obama's Drone Memo - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 117.9 KBFeb 11 04:18
qu1j0t3| ........................................  http://ur1.ca/crwcx                    Feb 11 04:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / drones: Torture architect John Yoo ... .::. Size~: 81.24 KBFeb 11 04:18
qu1j0t3| @burritojustice     —> RT @moorehn: What is France doing in Mali? I've wondered  Feb 11 04:36
qu1j0t3|                     myself. Stephen W. Smith hazards some guesses.               Feb 11 04:37
qu1j0t3|                     http://t.co/FvkfWQCM                                         Feb 11 04:37
qu1j0t3| ........................................  http://ur1.ca/crwmm                    Feb 11 04:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Stephen W. Smith · In Search of Monsters: What are they doing in Mali? · LRB 7 February 2013 .::. Size~: 42.11 KBFeb 11 04:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / burritojustice: —> RT @moorehn: What is ... .::. Size~: 77.65 KBFeb 11 04:37
qu1j0t3| @RT_com             UK inequality rises sharply in 15 years - report       Feb 11 05:09
qu1j0t3|  retweeted by       http://t.co/CKGQUOGh                                   Feb 11 05:09
qu1j0t3|  @der_bluthund                                                             Feb 11 05:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: UK inequality rises sharply in 15 years - report — RT .::. Size~: 58.38 KBFeb 11 05:10
qu1j0t3| ........................................  http://ur1.ca/crwy7              Feb 11 05:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / RT_com: UK inequality rises sharply ... .::. Size~: 90.27 KBFeb 11 05:10
schestowitzqu1j0t3: good links, thanks, dentedFeb 11 10:14
schestowitzyuo should follow https://twitter.com/thomas_drake1Feb 11 10:15
TechrightsSocialTitle: Thomas Drake (Thomas_Drake1) on Twitter .::. Size~: 222.16 KBFeb 11 10:15
schestowitzhe he has many good picks thereFeb 11 10:15
schestowitzDroner [sic] http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/376732/Man-hunt-for-ex-soldier-who-shot-police-chief-s-daughter-and-killed-policemanFeb 11 10:29
TechrightsSocialTitle: Man hunt for ex-soldier who shot police chief's daughter and killed policeman | World | News | Daily Express .::. Size~: 88.88 KBFeb 11 10:29
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/president-obama-did-or-did-you-not-kill-anwar-al-awlaki/2013/02/08/0347f4de-70c9-11e2-a050-b83a7b35c4b5_comment.html?commentID=washingtonpost.com/ECHO/item/1360509340-342-152Feb 11 10:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: President Obama, did or did you not kill Anwar al-Awlaki? - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 127.58 KBFeb 11 10:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/USDroneWarDept/status/300621574455844864Feb 11 10:33
TechrightsSocial@USDroneWarDept: The mainstream media doesn't care about you, your rights, or your right to know.  Only care about serving power/making $$.  These are facts.Feb 11 10:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/300601369730117633Feb 11 10:40
TechrightsSocial@ggreenwald: Bob Herbert back in 2009: "Policies that were wrong under Bush are no less wrong because Obama is in the White House" http://t.co/sLjFvQ3kFeb 11 10:40
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Op-Ed Columnist - Who Are We? - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 60.75 KBFeb 11 10:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mharwood31/status/300586868779646976Feb 11 10:46
TechrightsSocial@mharwood31: Baker makes one error here, Obama incinerates suspected terrorists, not terrorists, from the sky. #drones http://t.co/j9HZNfwCFeb 11 10:46
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Obama’s Turn in Bush’s Bind With Defense Policies - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 57.73 KBFeb 11 10:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Thomas_Drake1/status/300390493605470208Feb 11 10:49
TechrightsSocial@Thomas_Drake1: Critical voices 4 truth, justice & liberty. @naomirwolf @carwinb @TangerineBolen @onekade @emptywheel @birgittaj @Asher_Wolf @jesselynradackFeb 11 10:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ArarMaher/status/300254944676675584Feb 11 11:03
TechrightsSocial@ArarMaher: If the powerful tortures u, disappears u, vilifies u, defames u, crushes u, drones u: it's bc u deserve it. #WidespreadLogic.Feb 11 11:03
schestowitzhttp://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/02/senator-lets-have-targeted-killing-courtFeb 11 11:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Senator: Let's Have a Targeted Killing Court | Mother Jones .::. Size~: 81.93 KBFeb 11 11:05
schestowitzThe article is behind a register-wall.Feb 11 11:15
schestowitz:  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2359281Feb 11 11:15
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Khan a "celeb turncoat"  http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/02/08/rundle-khan-shuns-assange-joining-other-celeb-turncoats/ Ask a real women's rights activist like Ono what she thinksFeb 11 11:15
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Julian Assange v Jemima Khan: hypocrisy and celebrity turncoats | Guy Rundle | Crikey .::. Size~: 60.27 KBFeb 11 11:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2359150Feb 11 11:16
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dear Kim, your government overspends on military, has nuclear weapons, supports a political ideology. Love, hypocritical President Obush.Feb 11 11:16
schestowitz"enforces a state religion, intentionally starves it's people, punishes people by sending them to labor camps and killing all family members of convicted "criminals"."Feb 11 11:16
schestowitzthose are the things Obama would not be hypocritical to nameFeb 11 11:16
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2359285Feb 11 11:17
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pravda UK: Guardian's Assange Coverage Descends Into Farce  http://99998271.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/pravda-uk-guardians-assange-coverage.html today's Guardian funded by plutocrats http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/The_GuardianFeb 11 11:17
TechrightsSocial-> Title: The 99.99998271%: Pravda UK: Guardian's Assange Coverage Descends Into Farce .::. Size~: 100.22 KBFeb 11 11:17
TechrightsSocial-> Title: The Guardian - Techrights .::. Size~: 14.54 KBFeb 11 11:17
schestowitz"[An Enemy of the People](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Enemy_of_the_People)"Feb 11 11:17
TechrightsSocialTitle: An Enemy of the People)" - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 22.69 KBFeb 11 11:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2359182Feb 11 11:17
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2012: Does This American Spy Base in #England Play a Role in #Drone Strikes?http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/09/25/menwith_hill_nsa_spy_center_in_britain_does_it_play_a_role_in_drone_strikes_.html #us #ukFeb 11 11:17
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Page Not Found (404) - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 31.98 KBFeb 11 11:17
schestowitz"we need to make a declaration of independence and throw out the red coats of the empire."Feb 11 11:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2359308Feb 11 11:18
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When Jemima Khan supports #assange she's all for "transparency"; when reversing, she's for "women's rights". Free publicity twice.Feb 11 11:18
schestowitz"That's because "women's rights" trumps the truth. I didn't know Assange's been charged, trialed and judged guilty already."Feb 11 11:18
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2360064Feb 11 11:23
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: HuffPo volunteer writers are one thing. Millionaire (by marriage) lady HuffPo always hangs outs with, promotes plutocrats. Like #khanFeb 11 11:23
schestowitz#HuffPo Attacks, then Partners with, #GoldmanSachs http://freebeacon.com/huffpo-attacks-then-partners-with-goldman-sachs/ because lady HuffPo was never for people's interestsFeb 11 11:23
TechrightsSocialTitle: HuffPo Attacks Then Partners With Goldman Sachs | Washington Free Beacon .::. Size~: 29.08 KBFeb 11 11:23
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qu1j0t3| @GLEN_MICH          @ggreenwald @garyyounge what a bunch whining little bitches.  Feb 11 13:55
qu1j0t3|  retweeted by       Fuck it send 100,000 US Troops then. You plot against USA     Feb 11 13:55
qu1j0t3|  @ggreenwald        w/terrorists you die!                                         Feb 11 13:55
qu1j0t3| ........................................  http://ur1.ca/cs1wf                     Feb 11 13:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / GLEN_MICH: @ggreenwald @garyyounge what ... .::. Size~: 130.03 KBFeb 11 13:55
qu1j0t3 | @FearDept           If you spot a #TwitterTerrorist, say something.  Twitter is   Feb 11 13:55
qu1j0t3 |                     responsive, says @sarahkendzior, who identifies terrorists:   Feb 11 13:56
qu1j0t3 |                     http://t.co/bG4gFRb3                                          Feb 11 13:56
qu1j0t3 | ........................................  http://ur1.ca/cs1rf                     Feb 11 13:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter's dangerous lack of transparency on terrorism - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 117.47 KBFeb 11 13:56
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schestowitzinteresting, thanksFeb 11 14:16
schestowitzI truy nopt to link to guardian anymoreFeb 11 14:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RedScareBot/status/300964416109834241Feb 11 14:17
TechrightsSocial@RedScareBot: it's soylent green RT @axoln: @ggreenwald Seems that @GLEN_MICH is as much a progressive as Obama is a socialist.Feb 11 14:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/axoln/status/300964200379998210Feb 11 14:17
TechrightsSocial@axoln: @ggreenwald Seems that @GLEN_MICH is as much a progressive as Obama is a socialist.Feb 11 14:17
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/182tx8/i_am_dan_rather_former_anchor_for_cbs_evening/Feb 11 14:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: I am Dan Rather, former anchor for CBS Evening News and correspondent for 60 Minutes, current anchor of Dan Rather Reports – AMA : IAmA .::. Size~: 696.5 KBFeb 11 14:54
schestowitz"Feb 11 14:54
schestowitzWhat is your opinion of the influence of corporate sponsors on the news? Is it really as bad as everyone makes it out to be? Or is it very over inflated?Feb 11 14:54
schestowitz danratherreport[S] 294 points 12 hours ago:Feb 11 14:54
schestowitz it exists. it's not for the benefit of the audience, it's for the benefit of the corporations, the commercial interests and their connections with the powerful, especially the powerful in washington. It's not getting better, it's getting worse and while I wish there was somewhat to turn it around, I dont see it happening. And by the way, I wrote about this in my last book Rather Outspoken (yes that's a plug, and if you think Feb 11 14:54
schestowitzit necessary please forgive it)Feb 11 14:54
schestowitz"Feb 11 14:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2359927Feb 11 15:02
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Forget privacy reforms, #CISPA is coming back on Wednesday in its exact previous form http://www.news-republic.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=3&articleid=6649958Feb 11 15:02
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schestowitz"Feb 11 15:03
schestowitzDoes anyone else feel shat on?! I mean, by the fact that they couldn't even be bothered to try to redress it a little, give it a new coat of paint, to conceal everything that was controversial about it to begin with...Feb 11 15:03
schestowitzAt least that way I'd understand, they'd be ramming it through by stealth.Feb 11 15:03
schestowitzBut like this? They really must think that the American public (and both houses) have shit for brains...Feb 11 15:03
schestowitz"Feb 11 15:03
schestowitzThere is mdia hype about security now, it'll help manufacture consent for CISPA, if not among the public then in Congress. If you don't pass it, you help Chinese hackers. *eyeroll*Feb 11 15:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2355599Feb 11 16:11
TechrightsSocial@amphetamachine@joindiaspora.com: #ehrman #bart-ehrman #bible #jesus #god #christianity #atheism #atheist #christian #christ #history #quote #truth #debunking #skeptic #skepticismFeb 11 16:11
TechrightsSocial  Photo by amphetamachine@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_42f72a8f7c8b2f94ba37.pngFeb 11 16:11
schestowitzMinceR: ^Feb 11 16:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2352714Feb 11 16:12
TechrightsSocial@amphetamachine@joindiaspora.com: ### The [Ad Hominem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem) fallacy is committed when you neglect dismantling the argument, instead dismantling the person making it. Please study [fallacies](http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/). You'll find it cleans up your reasoning skills and makes your arguments much more effective and persuasive. #fallacy #ad-hominem #logic #debate #argument #logical-fallacyFeb 11 16:12
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MinceRinterestingFeb 11 16:12
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: d'oh! https://www.quora.com/Pope-Benedict-XVI-Resigns-February-2013/Who-is-likely-to-succeed-Pope-Benedict-XVI/answer/Toby-ThainFeb 11 17:22
TechrightsSocialTitle: Toby Thain's answer to Pope Benedict XVI Resigns (February 2013): Who is likely to succeed Pope Benedict XVI? - Quora .::. Size~: 35.19 KBFeb 11 17:22
MinceR:)Feb 11 17:24
MinceRis gate$ known to be in cahoots with the Pro-AIDS Party?Feb 11 17:24
qu1j0t3headlines actually say that Gates Foundation contraception programs are contra Catholic church, but this is probably meaninglessFeb 11 17:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0823-26.htmFeb 11 17:29
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Gates and Buffet Foundation Shell Game .::. Size~: 14.83 KBFeb 11 17:29
MinceRicFeb 11 17:29
qu1j0t3blah blah blah: http://acatholiclife.blogspot.ca/2006/06/microsoft-is-huge-abortion-supporter.htmlFeb 11 17:31
TechrightsSocialTitle: A Catholic Life: Microsoft, Warren Buffet, and Gates Foundation on Abortion .::. Size~: 122.35 KBFeb 11 17:31
qu1j0t3They work together when they can do most harm: http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/allston_brighton/2012/12/bostons_city_charter_catholic.htmlFeb 11 17:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: Your Town - Boston.com .::. Size~: 58.75 KBFeb 11 17:32
MinceRicFeb 11 17:35
schestowitz[17:24] <MinceR> is gate$ known to be in cahoots with the Pro-AIDS Party?Feb 11 18:02
schestowitzGates promotes contraceptiveFeb 11 18:02
schestowitzand \"Family planning", euphemismFeb 11 18:02
schestowitzSo he angered the churchFeb 11 18:02
qu1j0t3so they sayFeb 11 18:02
schestowitzhis wife, a Catholic IIRC, got the church upset as wellFeb 11 18:02
qu1j0t3looks like a bunch of distracting headlines to meFeb 11 18:02
qu1j0t3piss and windFeb 11 18:02
schestowitzi don't think gates is relevant to itFeb 11 18:03
schestowitzmy wife is catholic and I spent an hour or so talking to her about the church's controversies, the contraceptibve issue in particularFeb 11 18:03
qu1j0t3hehFeb 11 18:03
schestowitzmaybe the figurehead swap can help justify policy change Feb 11 18:04
schestowitzseems like a PR movceFeb 11 18:04
schestowitzthere's hte matter of constraceptive as preventing extra-marital sexFeb 11 18:04
qu1j0t3absolutelyFeb 11 18:04
qu1j0t3why do you think there will be policy change?Feb 11 18:04
qu1j0t3what would drive it?Feb 11 18:04
qu1j0t3not "The Flock"Feb 11 18:04
qu1j0t3they are not scared enough to change a thingFeb 11 18:04
schestowitzbut now with STDs out there it can still be argued that there's too much complexity hereFeb 11 18:04
qu1j0t3the church outlived its welcome 1000 years agoFeb 11 18:05
qu1j0t3it's hard to believe we're still discussing it :|Feb 11 18:05
schestowitzqu1j0t3: maybe they lose members quickly, not encouraging enough rproduction to keep uip numbersFeb 11 18:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: noFeb 11 18:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: no sign of thatFeb 11 18:05
schestowitzThe church won't endorse less birth,. it's like making its clientbase extinctFeb 11 18:05
schestowitzreligions that survive to this date as those that spread fast by birthingFeb 11 18:05
qu1j0t3see also circumcision, the one-way ticket to the tribeFeb 11 18:05
schestowitzmany USians do that tooFeb 11 18:06
schestowitzit's just the way it'\s done that can be BarbaricFeb 11 18:06
qu1j0t3hehFeb 11 18:06
qu1j0t3yes, it's popular in USA, which is just groupthinkFeb 11 18:06
qu1j0t3"we do it because everyone else does it"Feb 11 18:06
schestowitznot just USFeb 11 18:07
schestowitzalso parts of the US empireFeb 11 18:07
schestowitznot the BritishFeb 11 18:07
schestowitznor the SpanishFeb 11 18:07
qu1j0t3right, the USA is quite an outlier Feb 11 18:07
qu1j0t3as usualFeb 11 18:07
qu1j0t3where stupid goes to thriveFeb 11 18:07
schestowitzin Canada there's a famous case of a guy whose doc said change his gender after a surgery went wrong removing the foreskinFeb 11 18:07
schestowitzqu1j0t3: and US is #1 exported of pr0nFeb 11 18:08
schestowitzso they made the practice more prevalently acceptedFeb 11 18:08
qu1j0t3nah, it's not related to pr0nFeb 11 18:08
schestowitzit's notFeb 11 18:09
schestowitzbut in the US you won't see many in film who are not tampered withFeb 11 18:09
schestowitzand US TV nornalises the practiceFeb 11 18:09
schestowitzprime time TV jokesFeb 11 18:09
schestowitzthey make humour out of itFeb 11 18:10
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/99531515Feb 11 20:09
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Monday, 11-Feb-13 16:32:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that would be funny if it wasn't so sadFeb 11 20:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2357920Feb 11 23:33
schestowitz"I agree, but a chormebook is a better choice than a UEFI encumbered device. That the market is moving from things that intend to exclude freedom to things that don't is progress."Feb 11 23:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Winning The Desktop Wars http://ostatic.com/blog/winning-the-desktop-wars#buzz #gnu #linux #desktopFeb 11 23:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Winning The Desktop Wars | OStatic .::. Size~: 11.85 KBFeb 11 23:33

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