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| schestowitz | "you’ve got web sites out there that tell people’s credit card info. That’s how sophisticated they are.” -Obama | Mar 16 00:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.nationalturk.com/en/cia-and-the-fbi-is-investigating-president-obamas-financial-condition-us-news-35420 | Mar 16 00:48 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: CIA and the FBI is investigating President Obama’s financial condition / US News .::. Size~: 44.42 KB | Mar 16 00:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | L O L | Mar 16 01:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | they probably should look into the financial condition of about 98% of Congress, too | Mar 16 01:48 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Mar 16 02:17 | |
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| *roy_ is now known as schestowitz | Mar 16 09:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2451688 | Mar 16 09:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | @jeffarrubla@joindiaspora.com reshared: #duckduckgo DuckduckGo Billboard http://socialplex.blogspot.in/2011/05/duckduckgo-billboard-ad.html | Mar 16 09:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | Photo by ryuken@diasp.de: https://diasp.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_86d78482b5eb8e851195.jpg | Mar 16 09:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Social Plex: DuckDuckGo Billboard Ad .::. Size~: 48.07 KB | Mar 16 09:46 |
| schestowitz | "So, is DDG worst than MS y Google?" | Mar 16 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Startpage.com is the solution, not DDG | Mar 16 09:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2452389 | Mar 16 10:26 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: So I had an idea. Say you're using a public wi-fi connection and you're concerned that your computer is being monitored. You could carry a #raspberrypi or small plug computer in your bag, powered by a battery, with a wifi dongle connected to it, you could use a remote desktop client to connect to the pi and connect *that* to the wifi network. Basically piggyback on another machine with a differen | Mar 16 10:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 10:26 |
| schestowitz | First I would add offense to your defensive mentality. Think about disinfo for whomever is after you. Eventually a person has to evaluate what's going on, and you can confuse them fairly effectively. | Mar 16 10:26 |
| schestowitz | I would buy an old computer with cash, run linux, and use public wi-fi. The bigger question is if you're doing something that's questionable in the first place. Most the feds I know are decent guys who are fine with you doing stuff that isn't dangerous to other folks. I would just assume they could find out whatever they know to look for; which is accurate. | Mar 16 10:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 10:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2449678 | Mar 16 10:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhZSxeiziMg | Mar 16 10:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Peter Joseph, Zeitgeist Movement Founder on TYT - YouTube .::. Size~: 194.36 KB | Mar 16 10:27 |
| schestowitz | "The religion, banking, and 9/11 info from the original Zeitgeist was decent and relatively unique when it came out in one package in 2007. Now this guy is playing politics; shame. Zeitgeist omitted key counterpoints such as: 1) how free-market capitalism improves things; 2) eras of stable currency and sound banking that were awesome! 3) Christ's unique theology of being God incarnate and preaching that God is within us all. | Mar 16 10:29 |
| schestowitz | What we see thus are open doors for two current establishment efforts: (a) Criticizing capitalism as evil and thus regulation is the answer; (b) deconstructing religion in order to destroy local communities sharing their beliefs, thus isolating the individual for increased sensitivity to various other propaganda." | Mar 16 10:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | lolwut | Mar 16 13:39 |
| schestowitz | exactly | Mar 16 15:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2453357 | Mar 16 17:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Move Over GIMP, Here Comes Krita http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/709252-move-over-gimp-here-comes-krita/ | Mar 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz | "As I'm sure comments on that article state, these two are explicitly not competing over the same turf - they do different things." | Mar 16 17:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Move Over GIMP, Here Comes Krita | Linux.com .::. Size~: 69.01 KB | Mar 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz | "More to the point, since when is the GIMP all anyone knows of Linux Graphics? There might have been a time where GIMP was the crown jewel of open source graphics, but now you've got Blender, Krita, GIMP, MyPaint, Alchemy, and so on and so on. Krita is amazing, and it's a far better painting tool than the GIMP, but my pencil is also a way better writing implement than my fork." | Mar 16 17:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2454002 | Mar 16 17:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft Control Over Users http://techrights.org/2013/03/16/hardware-and-communications-lock/ not just #windows users anymore. #skype #uefi | Mar 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz | I get an error,trying to load the page. | Mar 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz | Error 503 Service Unavailable | Mar 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 17:08 |
| schestowitz | f*ing server issues | Mar 16 17:09 |
| schestowitz | "it joins my twitter on the hidden super super users in both #IBM Unix or #Microsoft and I guess also sponsored #Linux" | Mar 16 17:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | Empty reply from server ( http://techrights.org/2013/03/16/hardware-and-communications-lock/ ) | Mar 16 17:10 |
| schestowitz | v | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2453129 | Mar 16 17:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  #science | Mar 16 17:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | "... even Al got stoopid some dimezzz, diz is jus a simple shibboleth" | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2452588 | Mar 16 17:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This video is hilarious, the translation most likely fake and intended to daemonise #northkorea media. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU6dTejqeNo | Mar 16 17:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: North Korea Televising Americas Poor!! - YouTube .::. Size~: 202.97 KB | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Chapeau! | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Isn't this the image brought to us about the people of North Korea?! | Mar 16 17:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, exactly. | Mar 16 17:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2453128 | Mar 16 17:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: infographic by [Learn Stuff](http://www.learnstuff.com/) via [Earth & Industry](http://earthandindustry.com/) shared by [EarthTechling](http://www.earthtechling.com/)  #infographic #LearnStuff #EarthAndIndustry #EarthTechling #ClimateChange #GlobalWarming #planet #earth | Mar 16 17:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Nothing found for ) .::. Size~: 8.04 KB | Mar 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "So tired of these long as posters... <.<" | Mar 16 17:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Nothing found for ) .::. Size~: 39.52 KB | Mar 16 17:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Search Results | EarthTechling .::. Size~: 28.66 KB | Mar 16 17:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Nothing found for Assets Climate-change Jpg) .::. Size~: 8.06 KB | Mar 16 17:21 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Mar 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > I'm just thinking out loud here. It may be that there is more than | Mar 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > one problem. | Mar 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:27 |
| schestowitz | > The first message below comes 4 minutes after the every-5-minute | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > interval. Maybe curl takes that long to time out sometimes. However, | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > the starting and stopping of httpd is all normal and suggests that | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > httpd was running normally. | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > In the second message below httpd was definitely misbehaving. | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I wonder why it's happening again. Last time it happened a s/w upgrade fixed it (wordpress). | Mar 16 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | hahahaah | Mar 16 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | lolwordpress | Mar 16 17:28 |
| schestowitz | > Well, on the occasions where httpd appears to have been working ok, at | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | > least according to start/stop, I have suspected the network. But it's | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | > not a problem that can be detected with ping. | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | > On the occasions where httpd has stopped or hung, we don't have any | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | > useful logs from !"#¤%&/() php. | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | I didn't manage to post today's bigger story, maybe I'll do that at 1am (my next chance). | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: not a wp issue, I think | Mar 16 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | no? | Mar 16 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | what's the current theory? | Mar 16 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | how often do you have this problem? | Mar 16 17:37 |
| schestowitz | >> I didn't manage to post today's bigger story, maybe I'll do that at | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | >> 1am (my next chance). | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > Sometimes it works normally, other times it does stuff like this: | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > $ time curl 127.0.0.1 | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > curl: (52) Empty reply from server | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > real0m15.079s | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > user0m0.000s | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > sys0m0.004s | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > $ time curl 127.0.0.1 | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > <!-- Page not cached by WP Super Cache. No closing HTML tag. Check | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | > your theme. --> | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like it gets interrupted half-way. | Mar 16 17:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2454002 | Mar 16 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft Control Over Users http://techrights.org/2013/03/16/hardware-and-communications-lock/ not just #windows users anymore. #skype #uefi | Mar 16 17:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes I can't reach the techrights-site, I get a 503 service unavailable message. | Mar 16 17:58 |
| schestowitz | I had that about half an hour ago but now it's good. | Mar 16 17:58 |
| schestowitz | Me like techrights :D | Mar 16 17:58 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 17:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | Empty reply from server ( http://techrights.org/2013/03/16/hardware-and-communications-lock/ ) | Mar 16 18:02 |
| schestowitz | > curl can take a long while to time out: | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | > $ time curl http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | > curl: (52) Empty reply from server | Mar 16 18:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 39.58 KB | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | > real3m49.703s | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | > user0m0.008s | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | > sys0m0.000s | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | The server seems to be back under control, for reasons unknown... | Mar 16 18:08 |
| schestowitz | WordPress does not seem to have security issues. | Mar 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&q=wordpress&oq=wordpress&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i53.2014.3698.0.3920.9.4.0.4.4.0.169.536.0j4.4.0...0.0...1ac.1.F5Q8YwNBhUo | Mar 16 18:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: wordpress - Google Search .::. Size~: 65.23 KB | Mar 16 18:17 |
| schestowitz | http://wordpress.org/news/ | Mar 16 18:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: WordPress › Blog .::. Size~: 79.94 KB | Mar 16 18:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz | WordPress does not seem to have security issues. | Mar 16 18:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | you mean current ones? | Mar 16 18:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | current *known* ones? | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | yes | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | last time we suffered issues for days | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | then WP had the latest release | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | It took me a day to try to install it | Mar 16 18:19 |
| schestowitz | and thereafter no issues anymore, after I had wasted something like 6 hours cursing at the screen | Mar 16 18:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | ya | Mar 16 18:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | i try to avoid having anything to do with WP | Mar 16 18:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | co-workers use it heavily for our blog and marketing | Mar 16 18:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | the UI still sucks | Mar 16 18:21 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1adn1d/cartoon_god_legit_religious_page/c8wfbrk?context=1 | Mar 16 18:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Talking_To_Yourself comments on Cartoon God = legit religious page .::. Size~: 57.35 KB | Mar 16 18:41 |
| schestowitz | hmmm] | Mar 16 18:47 |
| schestowitz | Linux Advocates has banned an author | Mar 16 18:47 |
| schestowitz | from private exchange: | Mar 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | I will contact Dietrich if you allow me to, asking why you vanished and pressure him to undo the ban. Dietrich has been nice to me so far. | Mar 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Give me the go-ahead if you are OK with it. | Mar 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | BTW, to me, LA is a place to cross-post articles of interest. Techrights gets all the same articles at around the same time. LA brings other readership, so it's a win-win. | Mar 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | "" | Mar 16 18:48 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: | Mar 16 18:50 |
| schestowitz | > We're on 3.5.1 which is the latest. It is always possible that there | Mar 16 18:50 |
| schestowitz | > is some DOS exploit that has not been made known to WordPress | Mar 16 18:50 |
| schestowitz | > developers yet. | Mar 16 18:50 |
| schestowitz | That's what might be the cause. | Mar 16 18:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | logs should show | Mar 16 18:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5c4423b870fafb22fa1a7511726514cf | Mar 16 18:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 16 18:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > He had been nice in the beginning until he got the story. Two more | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > people reported him banning them - no only that he blocked me on G+ so I | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > can't even communicate with him there. | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > The problem I see here is kind of dictatorship where when asked you | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > don't answer the questions people ask (as you see he simply refused to | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > give an answer) and then responded by deleting my story from the site, | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > banning me from the community and deleting all me threads as well. This | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > is an example of an untrust worthy person who doesn't have any policy | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > and acts in such a cowardly/non-professional manner. | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > I am shocked as it never happened in my 'paid' professional career. | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > None of what he is doing is acceptable and should be looked at | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > carefully. My experience tells us to be careful. | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > I just wanted to warn you about him. | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 16 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > These two show that the script got run twice, concurrently. | Mar 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | > I'm not sure how cron manages that, it seems to happen from time to time. | Mar 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Can we even know what part if causing the issues? | Mar 16 19:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz | > I am shocked as it never happened in my 'paid' professional career. | Mar 16 19:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | hmmmm | Mar 16 19:48 |
| schestowitz | we'll upgrade centos to v6 soon | Mar 16 19:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's somewhere else in the stack (the issues) | Mar 16 19:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | i don't know what the issues is | Mar 16 19:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | but u need to look top down | Mar 16 19:52 |
| schestowitz | the wiki has hardly got any issues | Mar 16 19:53 |
| schestowitz | and the issue was previously resolved immediately after I had upgraded wordpress, due to security patches that got releases | Mar 16 19:53 |
| schestowitz | *sed | Mar 16 19:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | what is the issue? just stopping responding? | Mar 16 19:54 |
| schestowitz | >> Can we even know what part if causing the issues? | Mar 16 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 16 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > It's been eluding me so far. When I think of things to test, I try | Mar 16 20:11 |
| schestowitz | > them but I am puzzled as to how cron runs twice. | Mar 16 20:11 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: httpd not serving anything | Mar 16 20:12 |
| schestowitz | and there is high load | Mar 16 20:12 |
| schestowitz | maybe I/O induced | Mar 16 20:12 |
| schestowitz | needs debugging | Mar 16 20:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | it should be easy to determine if this is coming from DOS-type activity | Mar 16 20:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | or requests of any kind | Mar 16 20:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | regardless of php logging (which is abysmal), Apache has logs! | Mar 16 20:16 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/r/imgoingtohellforthis/8Na1Q7S | Mar 16 22:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: the new pope has been announced! - Imgur .::. Size~: 25.62 KB | Mar 16 22:00 |
| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/tb/1aekzp | Mar 16 22:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: ImGoingToHellForThis: over 18? .::. Size~: 42.12 KB | Mar 16 22:02 |
| schestowitz | "All posts are NSFW by default because fuck you that's why." | Mar 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 16 22:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 16 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I have spent the past hour setting up http://shpropertyuk.com/training | Mar 16 23:49 |
| schestowitz | and adding it to the menu. How does it look to you? | Mar 16 23:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: SH PROPERTY INVESTMENT UK: Susan Haslam .::. Size~: 67.56 KB | Mar 16 23:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | from a design pov, i find the 2nd and 3rd blue boxes distracting | Mar 16 23:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | it would help to tone them down a lot, giving the page a hierarchy from most important to least important | Mar 16 23:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/shivalord1/status/312899870929330178 | Mar 16 23:55 |
| TechrightsSocial | @shivalord1: @schestowitz ya absoulty right . | Mar 16 23:55 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: thanks | Mar 16 23:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: try introducing a new pale shade of blue for some elements | Mar 16 23:56 |
| schestowitz | I did try to commission you for the graphics, but she already knew someone else | Mar 16 23:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: np :) | Mar 16 23:56 |
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