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MinceRhttp://mylifeissomexican.com/pdata/t/l-45.jpgMar 19 12:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2458286Mar 19 13:28
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Bitcoin http://i.imgur.com/R3CaKks.pngMar 19 13:28
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schestowitz"Government passes law saying that only traceable currency is now legal to prevent "terrorists" from laundering money... What then? Because they will. Sooner or later, once cash has become less popular than it still is now. They will."Mar 19 13:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2459109Mar 19 13:29
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: MSM tries to portray #Cyprus bank levy as "against mafia"; but there are /already/ *laws* against mafias, why collective punishment?Mar 19 13:29
schestowitz"The punishment is not collective. The real mafia remains unpunished. They punish those that had nothing to do with it."Mar 19 13:29
schestowitzYes, an impose this under the guise of "fighting mafia". Just not the bank mafiosos who fund wars (terrorism; I mean how can it be a war on terrorism when war is terrorism), to name just one example of how banking can be compared to mafia, with or without need for laundering the profit. Where are the Cyprus riots? I am waiting...Mar 19 13:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2448796Mar 19 13:32
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ownCloud 5 Released, open competitor to #Dropbox  http://www.muktware.com/5388/owncloud-5-released-open-competitor-dropbox unlike Dropbox, can offer #privacyMar 19 13:32
schestowitz"Mar 19 13:32
TechrightsSocial-> Title: ownCloud 5 Released, open competitor to Dropbox | Muktware .::. Size~: 73.53 KBMar 19 13:32
schestowitz#OwnCloud really should not be advertised as a replacement for anything - filesync / #reader / #caldav etc.. There are numerous bugs with filesync, missing features, no exnryption, and the CalDav/CardDav clients are not trivial to setup or debug. This just didn't work for me - OwnCloud 4.x almost worked for me, but the last version is worse, IMO.Mar 19 13:33
schestowitzThe expectation of privacy when there is no encryption should be zero.Mar 19 13:33
schestowitz"Mar 19 13:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2461390Mar 19 13:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Government #propaganda paper runs at a loss of "$45.4m" , so I guess someone is funding the brainwash http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/mar/18/washington-post-charge-online-usersMar 19 13:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Washington Post latest newspaper to put faith in paywalls | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 115.96 KBMar 19 13:33
schestowitz"Ok with that, one right wing newspaper less to read ;)"Mar 19 13:33
formic__I dunno the left wing guys here in canada spent one million dollars on one toiletMar 19 14:04
qu1j0t3what does that statement have to do with the Washington POst?Mar 19 14:06
qu1j0t3do you not understand the role of the Washington Post?Mar 19 14:06
formic__news/truth right?Mar 19 14:07
qu1j0t3well, either you understand it or you don't.Mar 19 14:07
formic__I know they publish factual articlesMar 19 14:08
qu1j0t3so that's a noMar 19 14:08
formic__?Mar 19 14:08
formic__I don't get how you could have a 'right wing' or even 'left wing' paper, news is unbiasedMar 19 14:09
qu1j0t3LOLMar 19 14:09
formic__sounds like you don't believe meMar 19 14:11
formic__theres an article right here about racial injustice and anti-gun sentiment http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loudoun-teen-fatally-shot-by-homeowner-identified/2013/03/18/1e8611f8-8fe2-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html?tid=pm_popMar 19 14:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Dad: Va. teen had been drinking, was mistakenly shot he when entered wrong house - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 168.73 KBMar 19 14:14
formic__sounds socialist to meMar 19 14:14
schestowitzNYT and WashPo =trne-setting mediaMar 19 14:20
schestowitz"official sources"Mar 19 14:21
schestowitzThe gov. officials reads those two papersMar 19 14:21
schestowitzGov. officials mostly talks to those two "records of journals"Mar 19 14:21
schestowitzSo many govt. lies in the political sense get seeded thereMar 19 14:21
schestowitzother paper need to confirm to their linesMar 19 14:21
schestowitz"reputable source"Mar 19 14:21
schestowitzThey don't name their sourcesMar 19 14:21
schestowitzsometimes AQ, they claim, is their sourceMar 19 14:21
schestowitzwhich jusging by the Wikileaks trials would land WashPo and NYT reporters in jailMar 19 14:22
schestowitztrne-setting media > TREND\Mar 19 14:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2461510Mar 19 14:23
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 1988 predictions https://spyurk.am/uploads/images/scaled_full_34165740770a67f4045f.pngMar 19 14:23
schestowitz"we need moar planned obsolescence so that corporations can produce faster those sleek cars and glassy buildings and stuff"Mar 19 14:23
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schestowitzOr planes that crash into older buildings, leading to consturction of newer onesMar 19 14:23
formic__brad manning?Mar 19 14:27
formic__I've been spearheading the #executebrad movement without corporate fundingMar 19 14:27
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schestowitztroll campaignMar 19 14:44
schestowitzcan't see the rationality for itMar 19 14:44
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schestowitzunless you're one of the people whom he exposed for crimesMar 19 14:45
formic__treasonMar 19 14:45
formic__he exposed military secrets to the enemy, aiding terrorismMar 19 14:45
*MinceR_ is now known as MinceRMar 19 14:49
schestowitzLOLMar 19 14:53
schestowitzwar is terrorismMar 19 14:53
schestowitzso he helps stop terorismMar 19 14:53
schestowitzhe did not aid the enemy, he aided people of the worldMar 19 14:53
schestowitzwho are the real enemy to those in PowerMar 19 14:54
MinceRperhaps formic__ adopted the viewpoint of those in power :>Mar 19 14:56
MinceRhe fancies himself being in powerMar 19 14:57
schestowitzthe Koch talking pointsMar 19 14:59
schestowitzthat humans don't contribute to greenhouse effectMar 19 14:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2461493Mar 19 15:02
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## trollling done right ![Image/photo](http://i.imgur.com/haspR.jpg)         #sql #injectionMar 19 15:02
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schestowitz"guess not, the third image as a stand alone has been around for quite a long while already"Mar 19 15:02
formic__when you leak to everyone, you indirectly leak to the bad guysMar 19 15:08
formic__common senseMar 19 15:08
formic__I'd be fine if he just leaked the war crimes but he also leaked agents names, battle plans, etcMar 19 15:09
MinceRso, transparency of any kind is treason because the bad guys have access to itMar 19 15:09
MinceRinteresting ideaMar 19 15:10
formic__do you think the US should have to submit its deployment info to the mainstream news?Mar 19 15:11
formic__"Hey guys, we're invading this country from here"Mar 19 15:12
formic__next dayMar 19 15:12
formic__"oh shit, they knew!"Mar 19 15:12
MinceRthat's not what the cable leak was aboutMar 19 15:13
formic__wikileaks asked amnesty international for $400,000 to redact namesMar 19 15:15
formic__before that, Julian Assange said the soldiers deserved to die because they were involvedMar 19 15:15
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MinceRyeah, let's change the subjectMar 19 15:16
schestowitz[15:08] <formic__> when you leak to everyone, you indirectly leak to the bad guysMar 19 16:04
schestowitzOsama Bin Laden eats foodMar 19 16:04
schestowitzand take showersMar 19 16:04
schestowitzshould we hold farmers and such accountable?Mar 19 16:04
schestowitzJust because it can ALSO be made available to "bad guys" is not an excuse, everMar 19 16:04
schestowitz[15:09] <formic__> I'd be fine if he just leaked the war crimes but he also leaked agents names, battle plans, etcMar 19 16:05
schestowitzhe didn'tMar 19 16:05
schestowitzthey redacted itMar 19 16:05
schestowitzGuardian leaked their password, some idiot who worked for themMar 19 16:05
schestowitz[15:09] <MinceR> so, transparency of any kind is treason because the bad guys have access to itMar 19 16:05
schestowitzWow, the government prosecutor (AG) logic adopted by formic__ - I expected higher standardsMar 19 16:05
MinceRit was sarcasmMar 19 16:06
MinceRon my part, anywayMar 19 16:06
schestowitzOsama Bin Laden was gloating about reading some US books and spreading them - books where former officials spread govt. secretsMar 19 16:06
schestowitzshould we assassinate the authors of these tooMar 19 16:06
schestowitzBob Woodward or something..Mar 19 16:06
schestowitzMinceR: yes, I knowMar 19 16:06
schestowitzI hope to explain to formic__ the wider pictureMar 19 16:07
schestowitznot to ridiculae him, just to show him how MSM manipulate the wikileaks storyMar 19 16:07
schestowitzThey also used personal attacks against ManningMar 19 16:07
schestowitzhe's a very ethical and sane young manMar 19 16:07
MinceRi'm not sure if he caresMar 19 16:07
schestowitzthe press made he seem radical, confused, irrationalMar 19 16:07
schestowitzMinceR: I hope he's willing to reconsider his views based on new information he receives.Mar 19 16:08
formic__im just tired of people whining about someone who broke the lawMar 19 16:35
MinceRlaw uber allesMar 19 16:38
formic__im all for ignoring the law, i just wont be surprised if i get arrested and wont expect special treatmentMar 19 16:42
MinceRethics be damned, let's everybody worship the fascists in powerMar 19 16:45
MinceRhow's your goose step?Mar 19 16:46
formic__are you advocating anarchy?Mar 19 16:57
formic__i'm inMar 19 16:57
MinceRi'm advocating freeing Bradley ManningMar 19 16:58
MinceRyou're advocating executing himMar 19 16:58
formic__yeah but im advocating that for the lulzMar 19 17:00
MinceRicMar 19 17:01
formic__to be perfectly honest though, microsoft renewed my trolling contractMar 19 17:56
formic__sucks being out of workMar 19 17:57
MinceRhow long were you out of work?Mar 19 17:59
qu1j0t3http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/03/19/1242251/telstra-bigpond-to-use-outlookcom-as-email-handlerMar 19 18:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: Telstra Bigpond To Use Outlook.com As Email Handler - Slashdot .::. Size~: 166.82 KBMar 19 18:34
schestowitzthey're filled with MS execsMar 19 18:40
schestowitzinfiltrated basicallyMar 19 18:40
schestowitz!google techrights telstraMar 19 18:40
TechrightsSocial[1] - Microsoft Influence in Juniper, NSS Labs, Madrona, and Telstra ... | http://techrights.org/2009/08/16/juniper-nss-labs-madrona-telstra/Mar 19 18:40
TechrightsSocial[2] - Links 4/3/2013: Guy Kawasaki Defects to Motorola ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/03/04/kawasaki/Mar 19 18:40
TechrightsSocial[3] - Links 27/2/2013: Firefox Phone Partners, DistroRank | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/02/27/firefox-phone-partners/Mar 19 18:40
TechrightsSocial[4] - Links 18/2/2013: SystemRescueCd 3.4.0 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2013/02/18/systemrescuecd-3-4-0/Mar 19 18:40
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jetty/Howto/High_Load#WindowsMar 19 18:57
TechrightsSocialTitle: Jetty/Howto/High Load - Eclipsepedia .::. Size~: 25.83 KBMar 19 18:58
schestowitzhttp://file3.status.net/i/identica/schestowitz-20130319T180239-z3yxwqc.htmlMar 19 19:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Stop #CISPA : A Week of Action to Oppose Broad ... .::. Size~: 0.44 KBMar 19 19:09
schestowitzStop #CISPA : A Week of Action to Oppose Broad Cybersecurity Legislation https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/week-action-opposing-cispa stop in the #us before it goes global like #dmcaMar 19 19:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Stop CISPA: A Week of Action to Oppose Broad Cybersecurity Legislation | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 43.71 KBMar 19 19:09
schestowitzhttp://file3.status.net/i/identica/schestowitz-20130319T175704-wb4wwv9.htmlMar 19 19:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: NYC Surveillance Camera Project: http://www.med... .::. Size~: 0.41 KBMar 19 19:09
schestowitzNYC Surveillance Camera Project: http://www.mediaeater.com/cameras/locations.html no vandalism, just information. #nypd #wallstreet #police #control #surveillance #privacyMar 19 19:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: NYC Surveillance Camera  Project Maps .::. Size~: 3.75 KBMar 19 19:09
formic__disclaimer: I am a fully paid microsoft trollMar 19 19:47
formic__linux sucksMar 19 19:48
formic__MinceR: it was almost a year but now they have me hooked up with a surface proMar 19 19:49
formic__That way I can use hyper-v to 'review' linux distrosMar 19 19:50
MinceRwow, they must be desperateMar 19 19:52
MinceRwhen did they renew your contract?Mar 19 19:52
formic__last weekMar 19 20:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2462425Mar 19 20:54
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dispelling FUD About Ubuntu http://www.datamation.com/open-source/dispelling-fud-about-ubuntu-1.html #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMar 19 20:54
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Dispelling FUD About Ubuntu - Datamation .::. Size~: 53.57 KBMar 19 20:54
schestowitz"Mar 19 20:54
schestowitzThat's not dispelling FUD. That's just counter-FUD.Mar 19 20:54
schestowitzIt's a common opinion that Unity sucks and Canonical spends a ton of time on it instead of other issues that may need more attention. That's good enough reason to not use Ubuntu.Mar 19 20:54
schestowitzI hold that the Amazon ads are spyware. At least there are valid security concerns.Mar 19 20:54
schestowitzBoth Unity and the whole Dash-being-a-place-where-you-can-find-everything-you-want thing are solutions to problems that don't exist.Mar 19 20:54
schestowitz"Mar 19 20:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2462620Mar 19 20:55
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Slax 7.0.6 Has KDE 4.10.1 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Slax-7-0-6-Has-KDE-4-10-1-337583.shtml "now at version 7.0.6." #slax #gnu #linuxMar 19 20:55
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Slax 7.0.6 Has KDE 4.10.1 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.72 KBMar 19 20:55
schestowitz"and sad that Tomas M. quit the Arm architecture support, too painful for him because the boot system diversity on the available hardware... :S"Mar 19 20:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2462645Mar 19 20:55
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to improve the #Fedora experience http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2013/03/13/how-to-improve-the-fedora-experience/ #redhat #gnu #linuxMar 19 20:55
TechrightsSocial-> Title: How to improve the Fedora experience - LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 75.43 KBMar 19 20:55
schestowitz"An Ubuntu/debian .... #mainframe"Mar 19 20:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2461968Mar 19 20:55
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Feds: No Warrant Needed to Track Your Car With a GPS Device http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/gps-warrant-requirement/ #privacy #civilrights erodedMar 19 20:55
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Feds: No Warrant Needed to Track Your Car With a GPS Device | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 120.15 KBMar 19 20:55
schestowitz"Mar 19 20:55
schestowitzIf it was built after 1990, it probably does have a 'black box' and cellular hookups:Mar 19 20:55
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/business/12toyota.html http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/05/feds-to-require.phpMar 19 20:56
schestowitz"Mar 19 20:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: Log In - The New York Times .::. Size~: 10.41 KBMar 19 20:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: Feds to require black box event recorders in all new cars | DVICE .::. Size~: 37.48 KBMar 19 20:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/statuses/314094600967028736Mar 19 20:58
TechrightsSocial@yuhong2: @DrPizza @jperlow @JBrodkin @samwhitmore I had to link to techrights because the original source (from os2world) was gone.Mar 19 20:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lucasimprota/statuses/314107991509049344Mar 19 20:58
TechrightsSocial@lucasimprota: @douglaixx me diga o que te fazia ter que me suportar, douglas http://t.co/eXUbBukvhvMar 19 20:58
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2462605Mar 19 21:15
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Main reason to use open source software: customizability http://ostrovsky.org/main-reason-to-use-open-source-software-customizability/ #control over code allows behaviour to be changedMar 19 21:15
schestowitz"nice to see that #freedom is at the top of the list. Doesn't #customizability fall under #freedom?"Mar 19 21:15
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Main reason to use open source software: customizability .::. Size~: 19.29 KBMar 19 21:15
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