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TechrightsSocial@davidgerard: Death of a prisoner jailed for stealing a gingerbread man. Yes, really. In Britain. 23 02:38
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schestowitz 23 09:09 TrueAbility, a SXSW Accelerator Finalist, Launches the Linux Challenge at SXSW #linux #sxswMar 23 09:09
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schestowitz"They are based at of the co-working space I office out of. Pretty cool concept."Mar 23 09:09
schestowitz 23 09:10 reshared: #vaccine #vaccination #medicine #woo #debunking #smallpox #polio #diseaseMar 23 09:10
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schestowitz"I think the meta-point is that trust has been lost in the medical-industrial industry; and with good reason...."Mar 23 09:10
schestowitz> On 23.03.2013 03:55, Brad Smith wrote:Mar 23 09:30
schestowitz>> Here is a new port of MariaDB.Mar 23 09:30
schestowitz>> Mar 23 09:30
schestowitz>> MariaDB is a fork of MySQL maintained in the open. The development Mar 23 09:30
schestowitz>> environment is so much better than what has become of MySQL ABMar 23 09:30
schestowitz>> since Oracle took over Sun. They deal with security issues in aMar 23 09:30
schestowitz>> much better manner and don't try to hide the tickets or any detailsMar 23 09:30
schestowitz>> regarding the issues. Bugs are fixed much quicker and tickets inMar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> general are dealt with in a much better manner. MariaDB 5.5 willMar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> replace the current MySQL 5.1 port for the next release.Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> Here is the port and a diff to adjust the tree to move over to Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> MariaDB. The only port I haven't touched is xmysql as it doesn't Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> build with newer MariaDB or MySQL. It's old unmaintained cruft andMar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> I'm planning on removing it.Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> 23 09:31
TechrightsSocialTitle: Index of /ports/mariadb/ .::. Size~: 1.69 KBMar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> If you're a MySQL user or have expressed interest in MariaDB pleaseMar 23 09:31
schestowitz>> test and provide any feedback regarding testing and/or the port.Mar 23 09:31
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Mar 23 09:32
schestowitz> Mar 23 09:32
schestowitz> OpenBSD is dropping MySQL from its ports tree and will replace it withMar 23 09:32
schestowitz> MariaDB.Mar 23 09:32
schestowitz> Mar 23 09:32
schestowitz> Oracle has screwed up everything they acquired from Sun.  I have theMar 23 09:32
schestowitz> feeling that they are not even remotely aware of what they actuallyMar 23 09:32
schestowitz> purchased let alone how it could be used in the market to their advantage.Mar 23 09:32
schestowitzOracle and Microsoft make a lot of money from overpriced DB software. Anything that helps disrupt the FOSS equivalent is good for them. MySQL didn't take much in terms of money to disrupt; Oracle earns that in just weeks.Mar 23 09:32
schestowitz> I thought that M$ partially subsidized their database activities withMar 23 10:13
schestowitz> money from Office and Windows.  If Oracle were clever enough to workMar 23 10:13
schestowitz> with OOo, they could use it to cut into Office and thereby weakenMar 23 10:13
schestowitz> MSSQL thus making space for Oracle's DB on the low end.  It seems thatMar 23 10:14
schestowitz> somehow they are not even remotely aware of the potential.Mar 23 10:14
schestowitzMySQL is mostly used on the Web, but with SaaS gaining momentum a lot of enterprise software now uses mysql+variants or postgres. I think Oracle is just clinging onto old stuff and buying PeopleSoft et al. to suppress adoption of FOSS enterprise software. There are enough PHBs left to buy overpriced software and Oracle too is said to bribe governments, IIRC. Microsoft supports Oracle's lawsuit against Android. Many of the Mar 23 10:14
schestowitzproprietary giants are in it together.Mar 23 10:14
schestowitz 23 11:07 People naturally gravitate towards freedom-respecting OSes if they'e made informed about privacy, control, tailoring of programs, security..Mar 23 11:07
schestowitz"Not so sure about that one."Mar 23 11:07
schestowitzpeople as opposed to companies, I thinkMar 23 11:07
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schestowitz 23 12:36 reshared: #caturday . "I was a cat in a previous life"Mar 23 12:36
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schestowitz"Mooeow!"Mar 23 12:36
schestowitz 23 12:36
schestowitz"she writes about 'free software' but calls the whole system just 'linux' while the linux-developers/maintainers (certainly Linus Torvalds) are firmly in the open source (as in practical convenience) camp. Free software=freedom first, convenience later Open source=convenience first, freedom later or maybe never, or maybe partial freedom etc. (binary blobs etc)"Mar 23 12:36 "I also realize that it's technically more accurate to call it GNU/Linux." but still refuses to name it correctlyMar 23 12:36
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schestowitz> I hadn't considered SaaS in that context before.  But I think you'reMar 23 14:46
schestowitz> right.  People that would go for Oracle are also probably the type ofMar 23 14:46
schestowitz> people that could be sold SaaS.  SaaS being mostly FOSS-based, thatMar 23 14:46
schestowitz> cuts into Oracle.  I can't see the connection to their lawsuitsMar 23 14:46
schestowitz> against Android, though.  Unless maybe it is those teenyMar 23 14:46
schestowitz> zero-sum-gamers that think that by making someone else lose they areMar 23 14:46
schestowitz> somehow setting themselves up for the win.  From where I stand itMar 23 14:46
schestowitz> looks like they'd have a better ROI using OOo to let the air out of M$Mar 23 14:46
schestowitz> tires and lessen the subsidies MS-SQL is getting from MS Office.Mar 23 14:46
schestowitz> Mar 23 14:46
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> The last two restarts show special problems.  I have no solution butMar 23 16:04
schestowitz> am just thinking aloud again.  The script shows the following:Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz>   /etc/init.d/httpd status       >> $logfile 2>&1Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz>   /etc/init.d/httpd stop         >> $logfile 2>&1Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz>   sleep 15Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz>   /usr/bin/pkill -x httpd        >> $logfile 2>&1Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz>   /etc/init.d/httpd restart      >> $logfile 2>&1Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> So between the first "stop" and the "pkill", the second "StoppingMar 23 16:04
schestowitz> httpd:" message should *always* show "FAILED" and never, ever "OK"Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> like it just did.  Perhaps that is what went wrong the other day withMar 23 16:04
schestowitz> tcpdump, pkill failed to kill.Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> The second message below, from 17:38, also shows a problem:  TheMar 23 16:04
schestowitz> script is getting called twice, almost concurrently, by cron.  I haveMar 23 16:04
schestowitz> no clue how that is even able to happen.  Can it be something with theMar 23 16:04
schestowitz> VM that CentOS is running in where the clock hiccups or something?Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz> On 23.03.2013 17:52, root wrote:> Sat Mar 23 08:50:01 PDT 2013Mar 23 16:04
schestowitz>> Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> real2m23.856s user0m0.000s sys0m0.008s PING ( 23 16:05
schestowitz>> 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=50Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> time=30.4 msMar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> --- ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 received,Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> 0% packet loss, time 0ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev =Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> 30.471/30.471/30.471/0.000 msMar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> httpd dead but subsys locked Stopping httpd: [FAILED] StoppingMar 23 16:05
schestowitz>> httpd: [  OK  ] Starting httpd: [  OK  ]Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz> Mar 23 16:05
schestowitz> =====Mar 23 16:05
schestowitzThere are also duplicates (doubles) in the access log -- a problem we first noticed some months ago. I reckon we'll just migrate everything to a new VM with clean CentOS 6.4 on it. This current VM is almost 4 years old, IIRC.MISSION REPORT FINDS THAT ‘PIRACY’ DOESN’T HURT, AND IN FACT Mar 23 16:05
XFaCEqu1j0t3: 23 17:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: 2013 LPC Leadership -- Montreal Debate - YouTube .::. Size~: 114.92 KBMar 23 17:03
XFaCElive nowMar 23 17:03
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schestowitz 23 17:27 Documentary Filmmaker Sues AP for Stealing Footage while #ap is suing others over #copyrightMar 23 17:27
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schestowitz"Good for the goose, good for the gander."Mar 23 17:27
schestowitz 23 17:28 "The Plasma Media Center, built on KDE, offers a “rich experience” in its first release as a competitor to many" 23 17:28
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Plasma Media Center, aka KDE TV, out now | Linux User .::. Size~: 52.06 KBMar 23 17:28
schestowitz"Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzI installed it two days ago on my Nexus 7 running Plasma Active. They haven't packaged it yet for arm7l mer, so I had to compile it myself. I was downloading dependencies for about an hour ;) but it eventually compiled after I made a small change to the source code. It runs smooth, the buttons are large enough for touchscreen usage (even on 7") and it even integrates into Plasma Active's content sharing system. It is now my Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzfavourite mediaplayer on the tablet.Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzThough there are some things that don't work. Some may be because of missing dependencies, like the missing video preview which is caused by me not having ffmpeg libraries. Sadly, videos don't play at all, even though it'll play the first two seconds of some of them.Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzConnecting to Picasa works. It'll show all my photo albums on there. But when I open them, they appear empty (which they aren't). Also accessing media on Webdav and Samba shares doesn't work - it will list the content but not play it.Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzAlso there are some features I miss: I can't find an option to add an entire folder or even just an album to the playlist and there is no pinch-to-zoom in the image viewer.Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzI really hope that it will be delivered with Plasma Active 4 images as it's way better than all the media players/accessing tools they're delivering right now and would be even better if everything worked (which I assume would if they compiled it properly).Mar 23 17:29
schestowitz"Mar 23 17:29
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TechrightsSocialTitle: “Castrate them!” “Burn them!” “Bullet in the head!”: Facebook Israelis react to photo of Palestinian kids | The Electronic Intifada .::. Size~: 79.58 KBMar 23 17:45
schestowitz 23 17:58 Monsanto’s Death #Patents "estimated that 90 percent of the soybeans in the U.S. are genetically modified" #monsantoMar 23 17:58
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Monsanto’s Death Patents » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names .::. Size~: 43.62 KBMar 23 17:58
schestowitz"Former lawyers could provide assistance to Janitors who have always provided useful services... 8^)"Mar 23 17:58
schestowitzqu1j0t3: 23 17:58 #Facebook ringleader Mark #Zuckerberg to #lobby on education privatisation, immigration etc. (corporations vs people) 23 17:58
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schestowitz"education as a product....way to go, markie z. (billy g. is working on the same thing)"Mar 23 17:58
qu1j0t3schestowitz: :/Mar 23 17:59
qu1j0t3what are Zuck's credentials to interfere in public policy or education again?Mar 23 18:02
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schestowitzhe dropped out, no?Mar 23 18:18
schestowitzGates wannabeMar 23 18:18
schestowitzHarard tooMar 23 18:18
schestowitz*vardMar 23 18:18
schestowitzZuck doesn't want Gates to have a monopoly on children's mindMar 23 18:18
schestowitzHe almost went to work for MSFT, he saidMar 23 18:18
schestowitzHe's friends with Ozzie and othersMar 23 18:18
schestowitzAnd his owner is in part MicrosoftMar 23 18:19
schestowitzso he too wants control over the indoctrination factory which taxpayers fundMar 23 18:19
schestowitz 23 18:19
TechrightsSocial@eee_eff: @schestowitz please consider RT of the petition at We the People to halt prosecution of Journalist Barrett Brown: 23 18:19
schestowitzAnonymous=journalism?Mar 23 18:20
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Stop the prosecution of the journalist Barrett Brown. | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government .::. Size~: 53.25 KBMar 23 18:20
schestowitz"£109.80/kg"Mar 23 18:21
schestowitzLOLMar 23 18:21
schestowitzfor fish foodMar 23 18:21
schestowitzridiculousMar 23 18:21
XFaCElolMar 23 18:27
XFaCEschestowitz: maybe they are taking advantage of the high value of bitcoins ^_^Mar 23 18:27
schestowitz 23 19:05
TechrightsSocial@electronaut's status on Saturday, 23-Mar-13 18:56:03 UTC - @schestowitz A: Themselves, from anyone who isn't them.Mar 23 19:05
schestowitz 23 19:05
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schestowitz 23 19:43
TechrightsSocial@ralpost: @candtalan @schestowitz Just ask Adria Richards ;)Mar 23 19:43

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