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schestowitzyes, he damned DebianApr 03 00:32
schestowitzand then he's surprised some others in the site are not happyApr 03 00:32
schestowitzanyway, now that Pogson too is walking away, like Will and Swapnil, it might be time for me to give that site the finger tooApr 03 00:32
schestowitzhttp://www.propublica.org/article/a-muckreads-guide-to-north-koreaApr 03 00:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: A MuckReads Guide to North Korea - ProPublica .::. Size~: 51.64 KBApr 03 00:37
schestowitzciting US gov pressApr 03 00:37
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmW-ikdZx4&feature=endscreen&NR=1Apr 03 00:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Rebel or Rogue?: US Army vet charged for joining al-Qaeda militants in Syria - YouTube .::. Size~: 183.26 KBApr 03 00:37
schestowitz> Thanks for the heads up, it does not look good.  He was really pulling Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> together an interesting community.  I'll have a closer look at it but it would Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> be a shame if the purpose of pulling the community together was to troll, Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> harass and waste the time of the members.  Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> He tells us,Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> "I live in search of finding what is hidden away, just under the surface Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> exterior of things.  You get so you realize that instinctively things are not Apr 03 00:46
schestowitz> quite the way they seem.  You see, people only tell you what they want you to Apr 03 00:47
schestowitz> know and you see only what they want you to see. "Apr 03 00:47
schestowitz> Apr 03 00:47
schestowitz> Maybe he should have named his community, "Paranoid Linux Interrogations".  Apr 03 00:47
schestowitzHe recently gave the platform to someone who trolls Techrights and calls RMS pedophile. It's one whom he gave a GUEST ARTICLE position; I choose not to censor or silence, so I said nothing.Apr 03 00:47
eikonosif he thinks people only tell you what they want you to know, what is he not telling us because he doesn't want us to know?Apr 03 01:07
schestowitz> That FEWT person who called Pogson "poison"?  Oh, that explains a lot.  Apr 03 01:34
schestowitzno, FEWT too is problematic but in other ways. I'm talking about "Michael".Apr 03 01:34
schestowitz[01:55] <sebsebseb> ok I want to say this in pmApr 03 01:56
schestowitz[01:55] <sebsebseb> not the chanenlApr 03 01:56
schestowitz[01:55] <sebsebseb> you know the Humble  Bundle rightApr 03 01:56
schestowitz[01:56] <sebsebseb> and how people put them selves in the name listApr 03 01:56
schestowitz[01:56] <sebsebseb> ?Apr 03 01:56
schestowitz[01:56] <sebsebseb> yeah ?Apr 03 01:56
qu1j0t3hahaApr 03 02:08
schestowitz> Why would a "Linux Advocates" site give a voice to either?  Apr 03 11:04
schestowitzHe didn't know better...Apr 03 11:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2497814Apr 03 11:09
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What’s in a Name? http://ostatic.com/blog/what-8217-s-in-a-name #gnu #linux !fsfApr 03 11:09
TechrightsSocial-> Title: What’s in a Name? .::. Size~: 46.31 KBApr 03 11:09
schestowitz"never realy got to work on slax , always on red hat and derivatives . just recently as I srated shifting some close friends and familiy away from win I started looking at debian world ( ubuntu still is derivative of debian ) . pinguy is eye candy , simple to use , and has made that shitty gnome shell usable . but I prefer RH , and it has a 10 years support cycle , so I will be using gnome2 on my desktop for a long long time .Apr 03 11:09
schestowitz..."Apr 03 11:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2490265Apr 03 12:15
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mr. @jonobacon from #canonical & #ubuntu has new s/w: "Right now BBQpad is not Open Source" http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/03/29/introducing-bbqpad/ #bbqpadApr 03 12:15
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Introducing BBQpad  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 40.79 KBApr 03 12:15
schestowitz"Theodotos - get carried away sometimes :) sorry :P"Apr 03 12:15
schestowitz"I've actually signed it myself ... difficult to keep civil sometimes when other people don't"Apr 03 12:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504023Apr 03 13:50
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: So schönes Foto... :) Quelle: [Cerbi Meyer auf Google+](https://plus.google.com/photos/104688790737106295672/albums/5700126795533608513/5702635620970440946) #cat #catcontent #katze #schneeApr 03 13:50
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schestowitz"That's a nasty looking killer"Apr 03 13:50
schestowitz'national security' BS http://www.sacbee.com/2013/04/03/5311800/columnist-was-duped-by-army-privates.htmlApr 03 14:23
TechrightsSocialTitle: Viewpoints: Columnist was duped by Army private's actions, WikiLeaks - Viewpoints - The Sacramento Bee .::. Size~: 101.12 KBApr 03 14:23
schestowitzto cover up wa crimes?Apr 03 14:23
qu1j0t3eikonos: schestowitz http://rabble.ca/news/2013/04/sexism-border-personal-accountApr 03 15:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Sexism at the border: A personal account  | rabble.ca .::. Size~: 46.31 KBApr 03 15:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2503894Apr 03 15:15
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #diaspora #vimium #chrome #google-chrome #keyboard #meme #lol #humor #first-world-problems #featureApr 03 15:15
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schestowitz"why is she crying?"Apr 03 15:15
schestowitzIt's a memeApr 03 15:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Tuigen/statuses/319444795808444416Apr 03 15:17
TechrightsSocial@Tuigen: Decent article- heard the man myself RT .@schestowitz Top Swedish judge: case against #Assange "a mess" http://t.co/vCqS5DyfMr #wikileaksApr 03 15:17
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XFaCEschestowitz: let's not forget that you are also a memeApr 03 16:44
XFaCEhttp://bayimg.com/KAKabAADnApr 03 16:44
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schestowitzoboy!Apr 03 18:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504284Apr 03 19:29
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CIA chief lied to his wife about having an affair. And how can others tell family that they torture and assassinate suspects? #sociopathApr 03 19:29
schestowitzhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque Apr 03 19:29
TechrightsSocialTitle: Your logical fallacy is tu quoque .::. Size~: 141.48 KBApr 03 19:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504236Apr 03 19:30
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Top Swedish judge: the case against the #WikiLeaks founder was "a mess" http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/top-swedish-judge-backs-wikileaks/story-fn3dxiwe-1226612036070 #assangeApr 03 19:30
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Cookies must be enabled. |  The Australian .::. Size~: 31.6 KBApr 03 19:30
schestowitz"Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzThe crime he supposedly commited carries a sentence of 2 years from what I have read .Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzSince November 2010, Assange has been subject to a European Arrest WarrantApr 03 19:31
schestowitz3 years ...... have gone by ......... with him either being under house arrest or locked up in the Embassy .....Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzWhat sense would it make to do that ........ he has served 3 years already - all the money to wikileaks was stopped in the USA ..... the thing becomes so obvious to people its unreal.Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzNothing to do with what the people want ....... so who do they work for the peope in charge ....... trying to work out what the Judge will say ....Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzAlways remember if a situation feels a little like you are being set up and you are getting sex from women you only just met and they take you to a room and they even go buy the condoms .......Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzYou have to start to worry ......... when afterwards its not what they wanted a condom to burst ....... not sure its what a man would want either ..... especially if the consequences were as bad as they are now for him .......Apr 03 19:31
schestowitz"Apr 03 19:31
schestowitz"Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzShould have read 2 1/2 years 2010 Nov - 2013 April ....... but still a long time if you are innocent how do they compensate you and your company ....... how do they value the lost good that could have been done by uncovering corruption at the highest levels.Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzOr maybe that is all this was ever about ....... not uncovering anything ever again ......... make people too scared to do it .......Apr 03 19:31
schestowitz"Apr 03 19:31
schestowitzIf it wasn't sex allegations (effective smear), they would have used other dirty tricks to oppress and silence him, maybe even assassination.Apr 03 19:31
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504292Apr 03 19:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Shift in the #Drone Debate  http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/04/02/the-shift-in-the-drone-debate/ "the dialogue is beginning to shift." Not many strikes recently, either.Apr 03 19:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: The Shift in the Drone Debate «  Antiwar.com Blog .::. Size~: 53.98 KBApr 03 19:33
schestowitz"Its napalm and agent orange all over again, no? Im not too familiar with the vietnam war era party line on unintended civilian casualties, but it may be an interesting comparative example."Apr 03 19:33
schestowitzThat's a good analogyApr 03 19:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504375Apr 03 19:34
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: MATE Desktop 1.6 Brings New Features To GNOME 2 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM0MTQ #mate #gnome #gnu #linuxApr 03 19:34
TechrightsSocial-> Title: [Phoronix] MATE Desktop 1.6 Brings New Features To GNOME 2 .::. Size~: 18.47 KBApr 03 19:34
schestowitz"Very very good!"Apr 03 19:34
schestowitz[19:00] <tessier_> Is techrights responding for you? I can't reach it. But when I look at the logs other people seem to be hitting it... Not sure what is going on here.Apr 03 19:56
schestowitzApr 03 19:56
schestowitz[19:38] <tessier_> Weird. Everything is up. I just can't reach it from this location. Apr 03 19:56
schestowitzApr 03 19:56
schestowitz[19:56] <schestowitz> Someone else told me the same thing earlier. I can reach it fine. So can my downtime checker, which is US-based.Apr 03 19:56
schestowitz> The web server was up and running and could be contacted locally viaApr 03 20:01
schestowitz> curl.  However, I could not get to it at all either from my home net orApr 03 20:01
schestowitz> via Tor.  There was definitely no getting a connection from here for aApr 03 20:01
schestowitz> long while.Apr 03 20:01
schestowitzTracy told me he had the same issue exactly.Apr 03 20:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504236Apr 03 20:05
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Top Swedish judge: the case against the #WikiLeaks founder was "a mess" http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/top-swedish-judge-backs-wikileaks/story-fn3dxiwe-1226612036070 #assangeApr 03 20:06
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Cookies must be enabled. |  The Australian .::. Size~: 31.6 KBApr 03 20:06
schestowitz"Apr 03 20:06
schestowitzYep that is the thing he probably in the safest place they may be actually doing him a favour - because of what you have said there.Apr 03 20:06
schestowitzAt least they are actually protecting him - in many respects ..... and he continues to get publicity which is also a good thing for the TRUTH and bringing people together to understand why he is in that situation ..... very little to do with what is good for a majority of people that can do little but watch as the American War machine goes from one place to another.Apr 03 20:06
schestowitzLike a small child with a stick poking all the Hornets nests .......Apr 03 20:06
schestowitz"Apr 03 20:06
schestowitzHis detractors have given ammo to chauvinists by making rape victims look like a bunch of imposters.Apr 03 20:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504925Apr 03 20:07
schestowitz"Guillaume voting is also a load of rubbish yet most people do it; BBC News is a load of rubbish, most people read it.. I guess people just do rubbishy things ;-) (I do check the BBC news pretty often just to point out to people where the BBC has gone wrong when a convo starts with "Well on the BBC earlier...")"Apr 03 20:07
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "People in the UK now fit into seven social classes, a major survey conducted by the BBC suggests".  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22007058Apr 03 20:07
TechrightsSocial-> Title: BBC News - Huge survey reveals seven social classes in UK .::. Size~: 90.81 KBApr 03 20:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504814Apr 03 20:07
TechrightsSocial@sylviaj@joindiaspora.com: ### Hyeonseo Lee: My escape from North Korea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdxPCeWw75k #tedtalk #nkorea #china #skorea #HyeonseoLee #refugee #video #photo #famine #constant-danger #survival-hope #inspiration #bridgeApr 03 20:07
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schestowitz"At least she can escape: http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579044_10151551494072534_2023427305_n.jpg "Apr 03 20:08
schestowitz"Ted and propaganda..."Apr 03 20:08
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schestowitzThis reminds me of the fake girl from Kuwait, who pretended to cry and told some sob story on US TV to justify the Gulf War. They exploit women and women's rights to drive political agenda. The CIA openly admits this, too. I don't like TED's complicity.Apr 03 20:09
MinceRwhat's "Guillaume voting"?Apr 03 20:09
schestowitzit's his nameApr 03 20:10
schestowitzaddressalApr 03 20:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504987Apr 03 20:11
schestowitz"Hahahaha won't save shit lives... United Nothings"Apr 03 20:11
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## **[Congratulations, you've made history!](http://www2.amnesty.org.uk/blogs/campaigns/arms-trade-treaty-youve-made-history)** #AmnestyInternational #campaign #amnesty #history #ArmsTradeTreatyApr 03 20:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504169Apr 03 20:11
schestowitz"are you sure it&#x27;s safe for you to come to the US?"Apr 03 20:11
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I'm going to attend the Boston rally for Aaron #Swartz  https://act.demandprogress.org/sign/boston_rally/ exemplified corruption in the Obama admin http://www.salon.com/2012/03/14/obamas_personal_role_in_a_journalists_imprisonment/Apr 03 20:12
TechrightsSocial-> Title: I'm going to attend the Boston rally for Aaron Swartz | Demand Progress .::. Size~: 12.46 KBApr 03 20:12
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Obama’s personal role in a journalist’s imprisonment - Salon.com .::. Size~: 166.7 KBApr 03 20:12
schestowitz"Oh, I see, that&#x27;s what Demand Progress said."Apr 03 20:12
schestowitzI have a lot of family there. They already have my fingerprints.Apr 03 20:12
qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/319540736381042689Apr 03 21:04
TechrightsSocial@ggreenwald: Sam Harris: "We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim"  http://t.co/nMDQIHCF3KApr 03 21:04
TechrightsSocial-> Title: In Defense of Profiling :  Sam Harris .::. Size~: 41.26 KBApr 03 21:04
schestowitztwo atheists arguing over MuslimsApr 03 21:40
eikonoslolApr 03 21:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504236Apr 03 22:11
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Top Swedish judge: the case against the #WikiLeaks founder was "a mess" http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/top-swedish-judge-backs-wikileaks/story-fn3dxiwe-1226612036070 #assangeApr 03 22:11
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Cookies must be enabled. |  The Australian .::. Size~: 31.6 KBApr 03 22:11
schestowitz"Apr 03 22:12
schestowitzIf this was about defending rape victims - I would be 100 % with that ...... and that is for a court to decide . Which no doubt it will once they allow the case to proceed .... with honest reliable witness's and the evidence to show - how the condoms were used though is another matter and how they prove that is beyond my thinking ....... this is an admission that cannot go away as the women handed the condoms in to be Apr 03 22:12
schestowitzexamined .....Apr 03 22:12
schestowitzThe part of the case that a jury or a judge will have to decide on is did he force himself onto them, ....... putting a condom on in my experience takes both hands ..... but there are techniques no doubt that others use to put them on but probably crinks the neck a little .... or the woman put it on for him ..... which to me seems a bad case for saying he forced himself onto them.Apr 03 22:12
schestowitzSo why did they not leave as he was putting it on.Apr 03 22:12
schestowitzA question that may need answering. ?Apr 03 22:12
schestowitz"Apr 03 22:12
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504814Apr 03 22:13
TechrightsSocial@sylviaj@joindiaspora.com: ### Hyeonseo Lee: My escape from North Korea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdxPCeWw75k #tedtalk #nkorea #china #skorea #HyeonseoLee #refugee #video #photo #famine #constant-danger #survival-hope #inspiration #bridgeApr 03 22:13
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schestowitz"Good catch Roy. They manufacture consent this way. It was similar in the Afghan war, now PK."Apr 03 22:13
schestowitzIf you don't buy into it, you are sexist. :-) Well, wikileaks leaked CIA docs that show CIA openly saying it would exploit women's rights to take power from the Taliban.Apr 03 22:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2505021Apr 03 22:14
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ecology https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_21a07b949cf2597ddeba.jpgApr 03 22:14
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schestowitz"as long as it's not the strict and patented but more the generic non proprietary idea of "resource based economy".. But an "ecological economy" would be based on relationships and cohesion in society, not just resource availability, at least according to schumacker's "buddhist economics" or the recent film "the economics of happiness"."Apr 03 22:14
schestowitzlol http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/03/ohio-superintendent-removes-jesus-portrait-due-to-lawsuit-concerns/Apr 03 22:33
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ohio school takes down Jesus portrait under legal threat | Fox News .::. Size~: 60 KBApr 03 22:33
schestowitzfront page newsApr 03 22:33
schestowitznothing about koreaApr 03 22:33
eikonosclearly related: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/12-million-americans-believe-lizard-people-run-our-country/63799/Apr 03 22:52
TechrightsSocialTitle: 12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country - Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire .::. Size~: 65.28 KBApr 03 22:52
eikonosno word yet on whether jesus was a lizard or notApr 03 22:52
eikonos> Public Policy Polling has raised weird polls to an art form. During last year's presidential campaign, the firm earned a bit of a reputation for its unorthodox questions; for example, "If God exists, do you approve of its handling of natural disasters?"Apr 03 22:53
qu1j0t3LOLApr 03 22:54
qu1j0t3that's hilariousApr 03 22:54
qu1j0t3eikonos: schestowitz https://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f374275471833cb71c44b1e865365c45Apr 03 23:34
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eikonoswell that's interesting. the trend of more space = more gas is roughly there. odd that gas use in australia seems flat thoughApr 03 23:39
eikonosand i would have thought TO had more space-per-personApr 03 23:39
qu1j0t3unfortunately they don't name the european citiesApr 03 23:44
eikonossurely canada has enough space for hermit-cabins for everyone?Apr 03 23:44
qu1j0t3sure, if they all grow their own foodApr 03 23:44
eikonoswhich is, incidentally, the canadian dreamApr 03 23:44
eikonosno, the food is delivered by hipsters on bicyclesApr 03 23:45
eikonoscable TV for hockey games and internet for pornApr 03 23:45
qu1j0t3where do the hipsters live?Apr 03 23:45
eikonosthat's the current implementation problemApr 03 23:45
eikonostoo bad jg ballard died, or he could have written the novelApr 03 23:45
eikonoshuh .. TIL: "In Spring 1954 Ballard joined the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force and was sent to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Air_Force flight-training base in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moose_Jaw,_Saskatchewan, Canada."Apr 03 23:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: NO TITLE .::. Size~: 57.44 KBApr 03 23:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: Royal Canadian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 176.5 KBApr 03 23:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 22.89 KBApr 03 23:48
eikonosoops..Apr 03 23:48
eikonosanyway, going to moose jaw is certainly enough to give one nightmares of being stranded in a deserted wastelandApr 03 23:49

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