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schestowitz[15:43] <anon> it was him http://sk.linkedin.com/in,,,,,,,, | it is so sad to see a person who introduced me to gnu, now distancing himself from the roots and supporting patents in renewable energy field .. and also pro-us & israeli crypto scene | last time we met, he used black&white old nokia dumb-phone with an azbuka alphabet [though sclerosis multiplex strikes him from time to time, so he ought to be treated with reserve]Apr 06 15:46
schestowitzApr 06 15:46
schestowitz[15:44] <anon> && very very similar case http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/,,,,,, | though this guy introduced me to reverse-engineering and assemblyApr 06 15:46
schestowitz[15:45] <schestowitz> at least they don't work for Microsoft or anything..Apr 06 15:46
schestowitz[15:46] <anon> about right answerApr 06 15:53
schestowitzSuper rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens http://ur1.ca/da77hApr 06 16:07
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Apr 06 18:12
schestowitz> Apr 06 18:12
schestowitz> I've fiddled with re-alpine the descendant of pine to get it workingApr 06 18:12
schestowitz> with PGP via gpg.  I can sign, encrypt and both sign and encrypt.Apr 06 18:12
schestowitz> Unfortunately it is rather primitive in matching keys to mail addressesApr 06 18:12
schestowitz> and there isn't a way that I know of (yet?) to manually pick a publicApr 06 18:12
schestowitz> key to use for encryption.  Is key 74572E8E your main key?  If so canApr 06 18:12
schestowitz> you add "Roy Schestowitz <s@schestowitz.com>" to it?Apr 06 18:12
schestowitzI have only ever had one key, one that I generated on SUSE 10 years ago. It even has the same passphrase, still.Apr 06 18:12
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2512133Apr 06 18:12
schestowitz"* listening to the thundering sound of a billion facepalms at an inhuman rate *"Apr 06 18:12
schestowitz>> I have only ever had one key, one that I generated on SUSE 10 years ago.Apr 06 18:23
schestowitz>> It even has the same passphrase, still.Apr 06 18:23
schestowitz> Apr 06 18:23
schestowitz> Would you be able to add your current address to it?  It would still beApr 06 18:23
schestowitz> the same key and keys can have multiple addresses.Apr 06 18:23
schestowitzI don't know how to do this. If it's possible, it would be well overdue for me.Apr 06 18:23
schestowitz>> I guess you could use seahorse to edit the key graphically or you canApr 06 18:54
schestowitz>> use the gnupg tool directly withApr 06 18:54
schestowitz>> Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz>> gpg --edit-key 74572E8EApr 06 18:54
schestowitz>> adduidApr 06 18:54
schestowitz>> Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz>> Read the output from "gpg -h" and skim the manual page for "gpg" first.Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz>>  It won't save the changes until you exit and even then only afterApr 06 18:54
schestowitz>> confirmation.Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz> Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz> As a follow up, one way to make a backup of the public key (the one toApr 06 18:54
schestowitz> be worked with) is this way:Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz> Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz> gpg --export --armor 74572E8E > roy.keyApr 06 18:54
schestowitzWouldn't other people's clients get 'confused' if I modify the key though?Apr 06 18:54
schestowitz> It would be adding a second e-mail address to the key so the old oneApr 06 19:12
schestowitz> would still be valid.  I've both added and removed addresses to my ownApr 06 19:12
schestowitz> key over time.  For a while I had four and started with one.  Now I haveApr 06 19:12
schestowitz> two:Apr 06 19:12
schestowitz> Apr 06 19:12
schestowitz> gpg --list-keys xxxxxxxApr 06 19:12
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ gpg --edit-key 74572E8EApr 06 19:12
schestowitzgpg (GnuPG) 1.4.10; Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzThis is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzThere is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzSecret key is available.Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzpub  1024D/74572E8E  created: 2004-01-09  expires: never       usage: SCA Apr 06 19:12
schestowitz                     trust: ultimate      validity: ultimateApr 06 19:12
schestowitzsub  1024g/E5DBEED8  created: 2004-01-09  expires: never       usage: E   Apr 06 19:12
schestowitz[ultimate] (1). Roy Schestowitz <sch@danielsorogon.com>Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzCommand> adduidApr 06 19:12
schestowitzReal name: Roy SchestowitzApr 06 19:12
schestowitzE-mail address: r@schestowitz.comApr 06 19:12
schestowitzComment: Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzYou selected this USER-ID:Apr 06 19:12
schestowitz    "Roy Schestowitz <r@schestowitz.com>"Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzChange (N)ame, (C)omment, (E)-mail or (O)kay/(Q)uit? OApr 06 19:12
schestowitzYou need a passphrase to unlock the secret key forApr 06 19:12
schestowitzuser: "Roy Schestowitz <sch@danielsorogon.com>"Apr 06 19:12
schestowitz1024-bit DSA key, ID 74572E8E, created 2004-01-09Apr 06 19:12
schestowitzpub  1024D/74572E8E  created: 2004-01-09  expires: never       usage: SCA Apr 06 19:13
schestowitz                     trust: ultimate      validity: ultimateApr 06 19:13
schestowitzsub  1024g/E5DBEED8  created: 2004-01-09  expires: never       usage: E   Apr 06 19:13
schestowitz[ultimate] (1)  Roy Schestowitz <sch@danielsorogon.com>Apr 06 19:13
schestowitz[ unknown] (2). Roy Schestowitz <r@schestowitz.com>Apr 06 19:13
schestowitzCommand> quitApr 06 19:13
schestowitzSave changes? (y/N) YApr 06 19:13
schestowitz                                                                                                                                Apr 06 19:13
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ gpg --list-keys 74572E8EApr 06 19:13
schestowitzpub   1024D/74572E8E 2004-01-09                                                                                                                Apr 06 19:13
schestowitzuid                  Roy Schestowitz <r@schestowitz.com>                                                                                       Apr 06 19:13
schestowitzuid                  Roy Schestowitz <sch@danielsorogon.com>                                                                                   Apr 06 19:13
schestowitzsub   1024g/E5DBEED8 2004-01-09    Apr 06 19:13
schestowitz> That looks like it worked.  Which key server have you uploaded it to?Apr 06 20:01
schestowitz> Also, don't you mainly use s@schestowitz.com?Apr 06 20:01
schestowitzpgp.mit.eduApr 06 20:02
schestowitzsubkeys.pgp.netApr 06 20:02
schestowitz> Can you send the current value of this, I'd like to test it.Apr 06 20:02
schestowitzgpg --export --armor 74572E8E > roy.keyApr 06 20:02
schestowitz> Got it. Thanks very much.  Unfortunately, pine/re-alpine can only sendApr 06 20:16
schestowitz> encrypted to r@schestowitz.com  So there might be a message there for you.Apr 06 20:16
schestowitzI have thunderbird set up with filter to channel all your mail to "Friends" folder. BTW, the new article from Cory at LifeHacker says that he too uses thunderbird like this. And like myself, he uses text files for almost everything. I guess independent experience always leads to similar outcomes. Apr 06 20:16
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