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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2518651Apr 09 00:44
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #ThatcherApr 09 00:44
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schestowitz"the milk snatcher"Apr 09 00:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2518965Apr 09 00:44
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If we believe it's bad to speak ill of the dead, then can't teach history&warn about bad behaviour. History requires speaking ill of dead.Apr 09 00:45
schestowitz"The tendency of "respect" to silence criticism reminds me of North Korea. Self censorship insults the living."Apr 09 00:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2518949Apr 09 00:45
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Sites like #facebook help asemble lists of ppl w/ potential relations (political, kinship, friends, etc.). "Likes" help establish mindset.Apr 09 00:45
schestowitz|"Apr 09 00:46
schestowitzFacebook is a powerful tool of censorship and intimidation. The owners are not honest. They can create a false perception of public opinion by hiding messages they don't like and giving prominence to messages they do like. More importantly, they can cause or amplify conflict between family and friends by making sure to pass on conflicting signals. The network is a dangerous substitute for communications and news.Apr 09 00:46
schestowitzA network where people are afraid to share their actual feelings and opinions is bad news for everyone. One designed for PR and counter intelligence is even worse.Apr 09 00:46
schestowitzshow moreApr 09 00:46
schestowitzabout 3 hours agoApr 09 00:46
schestowitz"Apr 09 00:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2518914Apr 09 00:46
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is is often said it's wrong to criticise a person immediately after death because of his/her family. How does time's passage avert that?Apr 09 00:47
schestowitz"There is a period when grieving people are irrational and should be loved and supported, but we must apply different rules when dealing with public figures. The death of a public figure is a good time to remember and challenge harmful policies and injustices. PR people are trying to censor such opinion by confusing it with tasteless and petty criticism of ordinary people. The two are not the same at all, even though the rich Apr 09 00:47
schestowitzand powerful person has relatives who are at a loss. Those relatives should also want to correct the wrongs done."Apr 09 00:47
schestowitznot criticising member of one's familyApr 09 00:47
schestowitzbut public officials that affected usApr 09 00:47
eikonosyeah, and nobody is criticizing her for her personal lifeApr 09 00:56
eikonosit's her political life that's causing the criticismApr 09 00:56
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eikonosqu1j0t3: so.. kinda like ralph klein? http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/08/f-business-don-pittis-margaret-thatcher.htmlApr 09 04:44
TechrightsSocialTitle: Don Pittis: Iron Lady's economic secret was really crude, oil that is - Business - CBC News .::. Size~: 64.28 KBApr 09 04:44
eikonosit's like the difference between economics and voodoo is that one is a bunch of mumbo jumbo and the other one has fun ritualsApr 09 04:45
schestowitz“Thatcher on feminism: "I hate feminism. It is a poison." Thatcher on Mandela: "He is a terrorist." Thatcher on Pinochet: "Welcome."”Apr 09 11:13
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2521242Apr 09 11:37
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: A "desktop Linux revival?"  I never knew it went away.... http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/could-the-chromebook-spark-a-desktop-linux-revival-20130409-2hiby.htmlApr 09 11:37
schestowitz"Apr 09 11:37
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Could the Chromebook spark a desktop Linux revival? .::. Size~: 181.31 KBApr 09 11:37
schestowitz    *Apr 09 11:37
schestowitz      Fragmentation is not killing LinuxApr 09 11:37
schestowitz    *Apr 09 11:37
schestowitz      War is Peace, Diversity is Fragmentation, Versatile is DifficultApr 09 11:37
schestowitz"Apr 09 11:37
MinceR:>Apr 09 12:25
qu1j0t3when it comes down to it... Thatcher's family isn't very savoury either. Google "Mark Thatcher splodge of wonga"Apr 09 13:29
qu1j0t3fuck the lot of them, really.Apr 09 13:29
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjlieaApr 09 15:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter .::. Size~: 12.91 KBApr 09 15:06
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/321251796695781376Apr 09 15:21
TechrightsSocial@wikileaks: #Assange: In Brazil, to justify aid to the US Military dictatorship, the US created a torture exemption for the Brazilian Military. #plusdApr 09 15:21
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: Galloway, in awesome form. http://redmolucca.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/tramp-the-dirt-down/ Apr 09 17:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: “Tramp the Dirt Down” | Red Molucca .::. Size~: 79.9 KBApr 09 17:10
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eikonosqu1j0t3: did you read the cbc story about thatcher and north sea oil?Apr 09 17:40
qu1j0t3noApr 09 17:47
eikonoshttp://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/08/f-business-don-pittis-margaret-thatcher.htmlApr 09 17:50
TechrightsSocialTitle: Don Pittis: Iron Lady's economic secret was really crude, oil that is - Business - CBC News .::. Size~: 66.27 KBApr 09 17:50
qu1j0t3ughApr 09 17:51
qu1j0t3eikonos: make sure you read that galloway oneApr 09 17:51
eikonosi didApr 09 17:51
eikonosi didn't realize he wrote it until the endApr 09 17:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2521357Apr 09 17:56
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "unwanted attention on the internet after broadcasting a picture of Margaret Thatcher with Jimmy Savile." http://www.digitalspy.com/odd/news/a471372/margaret-thatcher-cnn-in-jimmy-savile-picture-gaffe.htmlApr 09 17:57
schestowitz"One abused Miners and the other Minors..."Apr 09 17:57
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Margaret Thatcher: CNN in Jimmy Savile picture gaffe - Weird News - Digital Spy .::. Size~: 75.51 KBApr 09 17:57
qu1j0t3what's wrong with publishing a picture of the two together?Apr 09 17:57
eikonosthat's funnyApr 09 17:57
eikonoswell.. google his nameApr 09 17:58
eikonoshe's persona non grata nowApr 09 17:58
eikonosLOLApr 09 17:58
eikonos@ minors & minersApr 09 17:58
eikonoscan't expect CNN to know that.. they'd have to follow the newsApr 09 17:59
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/321668551633162244Apr 09 17:59
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Why is a picture of Thatcher w Savile more offensive than a picture of Thatcher w Bush Sr? It all happened, folks. http://t.co/p6GvkiI8KVApr 09 17:59
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Margaret Thatcher: CNN in Jimmy Savile picture gaffe - Weird News - Digital Spy .::. Size~: 75.51 KBApr 09 17:59
qu1j0t3I know he's persona non grata, what's tht got to do with publishing pictures?Apr 09 17:59
qu1j0t3Thatcher dies, world goes stupidApr 09 17:59
qu1j0t3a picture with Bush Senior no less offensive, surely?Apr 09 17:59
eikonosi haven't heard or read anything from anyone who liked herApr 09 17:59
qu1j0t3or are we doing relativistic "child porn worse than waging war" againApr 09 18:00
schestowitzeikonos: same hereApr 09 18:00
schestowitzasked some people at the gym todayApr 09 18:00
schestowitzeither hated or or didn't careApr 09 18:00
qu1j0t3eikonos: that's because it's the ignorant fucking middle class and mainstream media defaultApr 09 18:00
schestowitzand that'\s despite the press PR/eulogiesApr 09 18:00
qu1j0t3it's the "didn't care" that brings us the status quoApr 09 18:00
schestowitzyesApr 09 18:00
eikonosi cher your painApr 09 18:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjliea  <-- points out we have worse than thatcher now, espcially here in CanadaApr 09 18:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter .::. Size~: 12.91 KBApr 09 18:01
schestowitzI had to find a way to cleverly ask this without push-pollingApr 09 18:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: :)Apr 09 18:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2521315Apr 09 18:01
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mozilla pulls tracking trigger for #Firefox 22, ignores ad industry attacks http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238208/Mozilla_pulls_tracking_trigger_for_Firefox_22_ignores_ad_industry_attacks well done, #mozillaApr 09 18:01
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Mozilla pulls tracking trigger for Firefox 22, ignores ad industry attacks - Computerworld .::. Size~: 146.05 KBApr 09 18:01
schestowitz"nice feature!Apr 09 18:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2521361Apr 09 18:02
schestowitz"People should be able to speak both good and bad things about the dead [and diseased], but NOT exclusively good or bad things only. Why? because everyone is both good and bad to some extent. We're not "white" or "black", we're somewhere in between. Even worst offenders have their positive sides, even best "saints" have their dark secrets."Apr 09 18:02
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "No need to speak ill of those dead about whom speaking truth is far more damning." - Wait, what? Too early?Apr 09 18:02
qu1j0t3LOL what a pile of bollocksApr 09 18:02
qu1j0t3"Nobody is all good, or all bad"Apr 09 18:02
qu1j0t3^^ How to ignore thingsApr 09 18:02
qu1j0t3more "teach the controversy" CRAPApr 09 18:02
qu1j0t3"THATCHER WAS CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE"Apr 09 18:03
qu1j0t3So it turns out Dick Cheney once took in a stray cat.Apr 09 18:11
qu1j0t3< invented example >Apr 09 18:11
qu1j0t3so all the haters, you know, you're just so EXTREMEApr 09 18:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2522069Apr 09 18:13
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: Angry cat smiles https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_af83d6ca5c21bc3296b3.gifApr 09 18:13
schestowitzNo, angry cat on Linux stream no! :-)""Apr 09 18:13
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeApr 09 18:13
schestowitz[18:03] <qu1j0t3> "THATCHER WAS CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE"Apr 09 18:13
schestowitzLOL indeedApr 09 18:13
schestowitz "teach the controversy" CRAPApr 09 18:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PapyRoller/statuses/321619662393724929Apr 09 18:16
TechrightsSocial@PapyRoller: Gagging Critics: B.Gates Bribes Crosscut for Favourable Coverage &  Censorship? Then Abducts I... | @scoopit http://t.co/Kavs6H4djvApr 09 18:16
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Gagging Critics: Bill Gates Bribes Crosscut for... .::. Size~: 212.31 KBApr 09 18:16
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MinceR191335 < schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2522069Apr 09 19:21
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: Angry cat smiles https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_af83d6ca5c21bc3296b3.gifApr 09 19:21
MinceRso fakeApr 09 19:21
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeApr 09 19:21
abeNd-orgbut still so full of winApr 09 19:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2521309Apr 09 20:58
TechrightsSocial@guillaumediego@diasp.org: *Its rather hysterical visiting the [Beeb](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22064534) to check back on its coverage of bitcoin…* ![alt text](http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66803000/jpg/_66803094_66803093.jpg) ***Honestly, any tool who has the nerve to whimper and complain when their CPU spikes drastically, along with their system resources being depleted manically after not thinking twice before Apr 09 20:59
TechrightsSocial-> Title: 404 - Page Not Found .::. Size~: 2.73 KBApr 09 20:59
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schestowitz"oh gross, windows :("Apr 09 20:59
qu1j0t3:)Apr 09 20:59
schestowitz> Here's a follow up:Apr 09 21:07
schestowitz> Apr 09 21:07
schestowitz> http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Mer_innsyn_i_bakgrunnen_for_fjerning_av_ODF_fra_statens_standardkatalog.htmlApr 09 21:07
schestowitz> Apr 09 21:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: Petter Reinholdtsen: Mer innsyn i bakgrunnen for fjerning av ODF fra statens standardkatalog .::. Size~: 13.52 KBApr 09 21:07
schestowitz> I'm not familiar with the names of the departments and agencies anyApr 09 21:07
schestowitz> more.  But his request for information was denied by the Ministry ofApr 09 21:07
schestowitz> Government Administration, Reform and Church Affairs he went to theApr 09 21:07
schestowitz> Agency for Public Management and eGovernment (Difi) and got an answer.Apr 09 21:07
schestowitz> Apr 09 21:07
schestowitz> The former seems to be trying to keep the process out of the light.Apr 09 21:07
schestowitz> Anyway, the removal of ODF is apparently not without protest.Apr 09 21:07
schestowitz> Apr 09 21:07
schestowitz> (The above is not worth quoting, just FYI, I hope they have a little inApr 09 21:07
schestowitz> English sometime because if it's going on in Norway, then it is going onApr 09 21:07
schestowitz> elsewhere, too.)Apr 09 21:07
eikonos"let's privatise her funeral. put it out to competitive tender and accept the cheapest bid. it's what she would have wanted." ~ ken loachApr 09 21:51
qu1j0t3url?Apr 09 21:52
eikonosit was on an image and i transcribed it Apr 09 21:52
qu1j0t3should have privatised her health care in the same wayApr 09 21:52
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/321727933372833793Apr 09 21:54
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: So did the #NHS have any part in keeping Thatcher alive this long? Those damn taxpaying socialists.Apr 09 21:54
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eikonoshttp://twitter.com/stats_canada/status/321684758281207809Apr 09 23:51
TechrightsSocial@stats_canada: Justin Trudeau is 8% as inspiring as his dadApr 09 23:51

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