Techrights logo

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: May 3rd, 2013

Join us now at the IRC channel.

*puppywatch (~PuppyWatc@host86-130-134-255.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 00:01
*libertyboxes (~liberty@host86-130-134-255.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 00:01
*roy_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)May 03 01:37
*roy_ (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 01:39
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to roy_May 03 01:39
*roy_ is now known as schestowitzMay 03 01:42
*schestowitz has quit (Remote host closed the connection)May 03 01:44
*roy_ (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 01:46
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to roy_May 03 01:46
*roy_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection)May 03 01:52
*schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 01:56
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitzMay 03 01:56
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 02:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2576945May 03 04:07
schestowitz"I suppose it shows that 'they' are doing their job even if 'they' are picking on the wrong people !"May 03 04:07
schestowitz"The job is to pick on the wrong people. No fly and other harassment lists are punishment without due process, one that violates privacy and right to travel."May 03 04:07
*oiaohm has quit (Remote host closed the connection)May 03 04:21
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@227.b.001.tob.iprimus.net.au) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 04:21
*oiaohm has quit (Changing host)May 03 04:21
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 04:21
schestowitz> Things were quiet here.  Nothing of note happened in IRC.  I had restartMay 03 08:09
schestowitz> the bot once near the beginning.  On the troll front Ender was back aMay 03 08:09
schestowitz> bit and DaemonFC was away.  On the web site there were no changes.May 03 08:09
schestowitzGood. Sometimes there's chaos while I'm away,it was more common in earlier years,May 03 08:09
schestowitz> Over on G+ Dietrich from LinuxAdvocates got slammed by a bunch of M$May 03 08:10
schestowitz> Suse people.  (Link below near string "fewt")  Apparently Swapnil hasMay 03 08:10
schestowitz> gone over to the dark side.May 03 08:10
schestowitzDietrich is a crazed control freak who censors and insults real advocates; he makes Linux look bad. He refers himself as a third person and he is widely slammed (increasingly over times) in Linux sites. Swapnil is one of his victims. Swapnil would never go to the Dark Side.May 03 08:10
schestowitz> I haven't followed it much.  I do notice that I don't readMay 03 08:21
schestowitz> LinuxAdvocates much.  I guess that might be the reason.  SwapnilMay 03 08:21
schestowitz> recently launched a subsite to promote M$ OpenSuse.  It is that last bitMay 03 08:21
schestowitz> that got me worried.  Even though the M$ contract is active and wasMay 03 08:21
schestowitz> renewed, it's "in the past" to some people.  His other writing hasMay 03 08:21
schestowitz> stayed good.  I hope it continues.May 03 08:21
schestowitzSwapnil wasted years promoting Shuttleworth ego and then he tried promoting an alterantive. Shuttleworth's cult, Canonical, branded Swapnil "troll" if he even dared to chastise something in Ubuntu 10% of the time. There is no real community there and they did the same to me.May 03 08:21
schestowitzAs for SUSE, without Microsoft, it would have been another Mandriva. Microsoft just uses it for taxation and precedence for taxation now.May 03 08:21
schestowitzwill post something about SUSE later..May 03 08:26
schestowitz> Yeah.  That was one of the things he brought up when I wrote to him.May 03 08:37
schestowitz> Jono and Mark still use ad hominem a lot.  They're both fast to labelMay 03 08:37
schestowitz> anyone they disagree with as a troll.  I don't like it either.  MyMay 03 08:37
schestowitz> reaction was to move to Kubuntu then Lubuntu, especially after theMay 03 08:37
schestowitz> spyware scandal and the abortion that is Unity.  Unity has potential,May 03 08:37
schestowitz> but their attitude ends up being the last straw.May 03 08:37
schestowitz> May 03 08:37
schestowitz> In the long run, I'm probably going to be moving back to Debian.  I hitMay 03 08:37
schestowitz> a bump with Debian though, there is something preventing me fromMay 03 08:37
schestowitz> installing it with RAID 0 (striping) on my modem so I went back toMay 03 08:37
schestowitz> OpenBSD there.May 03 08:37
schestowitz> May 03 08:37
schestowitz> I've also had hardware difficulties on the desktop / notebook.May 03 08:37
schestowitz> May 03 08:37
schestowitz>> As for SUSE, without Microsoft, it would have been another Mandriva.May 03 08:37
schestowitz>> Microsoft just uses it for taxation and precedence for taxation now.May 03 08:37
schestowitz> May 03 08:37
schestowitz> Mageia is now around.  It might be an option for those that like RPM.May 03 08:37
schestowitzMageia is hardly heard of anymore. I don't think they stand a chance of making it into the top 3, let alone top 5.May 03 08:37
schestowitz> Too bad.  Though some of that is about what the community (us) decideMay 03 08:46
schestowitz> to promote.May 03 08:46
schestowitz> May 03 08:46
schestowitz> Pogson promotes the heck out of Debian, but Swapnil felt that it isMay 03 08:46
schestowitz> not smooth enough for absolute beginners.  I would agree but add thatMay 03 08:46
schestowitz> anyone that has been through one upgrade cycle (or less) on Ubuntu canMay 03 08:46
schestowitz> easily make the transition to Debian.May 03 08:46
schestowitz> May 03 08:46
schestowitz> I'm very hesitant to encourage the promotion of M$ Suse becauseMay 03 08:47
schestowitz> Novel/Attachmate is establishing a history of paying M$ for Linux.May 03 08:47
schestowitz> While it's good that M$ is looking like it will fade away, it canMay 03 08:47
schestowitz> still cause a lot of trouble as a patent troll on its final way out.May 03 08:47
schestowitzToday, in fact just hours ago, another journalist (Inquirer) sent me some links about MS SUSE - depressing news. I might find some time to write a post about it at the gym -- not been there for a fortnight almost.May 03 08:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2588999May 03 11:21
schestowitzreally nice one... "May 03 11:21
*abeNd-org (~Keith@76.0.115.246) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 12:56
*pidgin_log (~roy@host86-130-134-255.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 13:07
*Disconnected (Connection timed out).May 03 15:03
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 3 15:03:14 2013
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 3 15:39:38 2013
*Now talking on #boycottnovellMay 03 15:39
*Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-socialMay 03 15:39
*Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:19:56 2010May 03 15:39
-NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz.May 03 15:39
-MemoServ-You have 1 new memo.May 03 15:39
-MemoServ-To read them, type /msg MemoServ READ NEWMay 03 15:39
-ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channelMay 03 15:39
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz_logMay 03 15:39
*schestowitz (~schestowi@host86-182-53-6.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 15:40
*schestowitz has quit (Changing host)May 03 15:40
*schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 15:40
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitzMay 03 15:40
*puppywatch (~PuppyWatc@host86-182-53-6.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 15:47
*libertyboxes (~liberty@host86-182-53-6.range86-182.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovellMay 03 15:47
*oiaohm has quit (Quit: by all)May 03 17:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2589640May 03 20:18
schestowitz"actually i was thinking about moving to testing too, does someone know when if ever gnome3.8 arrives in the coming testing?"May 03 20:18
*abeNd-org has quit (Remote host closed the connection)May 03 23:35

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!