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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2576945 | May 03 04:07 |
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schestowitz | "I suppose it shows that 'they' are doing their job even if 'they' are picking on the wrong people !" | May 03 04:07 |
schestowitz | "The job is to pick on the wrong people. No fly and other harassment lists are punishment without due process, one that violates privacy and right to travel." | May 03 04:07 |
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schestowitz | > Things were quiet here. Nothing of note happened in IRC. I had restart | May 03 08:09 |
schestowitz | > the bot once near the beginning. On the troll front Ender was back a | May 03 08:09 |
schestowitz | > bit and DaemonFC was away. On the web site there were no changes. | May 03 08:09 |
schestowitz | Good. Sometimes there's chaos while I'm away,it was more common in earlier years, | May 03 08:09 |
schestowitz | > Over on G+ Dietrich from LinuxAdvocates got slammed by a bunch of M$ | May 03 08:10 |
schestowitz | > Suse people. (Link below near string "fewt") Apparently Swapnil has | May 03 08:10 |
schestowitz | > gone over to the dark side. | May 03 08:10 |
schestowitz | Dietrich is a crazed control freak who censors and insults real advocates; he makes Linux look bad. He refers himself as a third person and he is widely slammed (increasingly over times) in Linux sites. Swapnil is one of his victims. Swapnil would never go to the Dark Side. | May 03 08:10 |
schestowitz | > I haven't followed it much. I do notice that I don't read | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | > LinuxAdvocates much. I guess that might be the reason. Swapnil | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | > recently launched a subsite to promote M$ OpenSuse. It is that last bit | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | > that got me worried. Even though the M$ contract is active and was | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | > renewed, it's "in the past" to some people. His other writing has | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | > stayed good. I hope it continues. | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | Swapnil wasted years promoting Shuttleworth ego and then he tried promoting an alterantive. Shuttleworth's cult, Canonical, branded Swapnil "troll" if he even dared to chastise something in Ubuntu 10% of the time. There is no real community there and they did the same to me. | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | As for SUSE, without Microsoft, it would have been another Mandriva. Microsoft just uses it for taxation and precedence for taxation now. | May 03 08:21 |
schestowitz | will post something about SUSE later.. | May 03 08:26 |
schestowitz | > Yeah. That was one of the things he brought up when I wrote to him. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > Jono and Mark still use ad hominem a lot. They're both fast to label | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > anyone they disagree with as a troll. I don't like it either. My | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > reaction was to move to Kubuntu then Lubuntu, especially after the | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > spyware scandal and the abortion that is Unity. Unity has potential, | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > but their attitude ends up being the last straw. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > In the long run, I'm probably going to be moving back to Debian. I hit | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > a bump with Debian though, there is something preventing me from | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > installing it with RAID 0 (striping) on my modem so I went back to | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > OpenBSD there. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > I've also had hardware difficulties on the desktop / notebook. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | >> As for SUSE, without Microsoft, it would have been another Mandriva. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | >> Microsoft just uses it for taxation and precedence for taxation now. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > Mageia is now around. It might be an option for those that like RPM. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | Mageia is hardly heard of anymore. I don't think they stand a chance of making it into the top 3, let alone top 5. | May 03 08:37 |
schestowitz | > Too bad. Though some of that is about what the community (us) decide | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > to promote. | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > Pogson promotes the heck out of Debian, but Swapnil felt that it is | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > not smooth enough for absolute beginners. I would agree but add that | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > anyone that has been through one upgrade cycle (or less) on Ubuntu can | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > easily make the transition to Debian. | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > | May 03 08:46 |
schestowitz | > I'm very hesitant to encourage the promotion of M$ Suse because | May 03 08:47 |
schestowitz | > Novel/Attachmate is establishing a history of paying M$ for Linux. | May 03 08:47 |
schestowitz | > While it's good that M$ is looking like it will fade away, it can | May 03 08:47 |
schestowitz | > still cause a lot of trouble as a patent troll on its final way out. | May 03 08:47 |
schestowitz | Today, in fact just hours ago, another journalist (Inquirer) sent me some links about MS SUSE - depressing news. I might find some time to write a post about it at the gym -- not been there for a fortnight almost. | May 03 08:47 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2588999 | May 03 11:21 |
schestowitz | really nice one... " | May 03 11:21 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2589640 | May 03 20:18 |
schestowitz | "actually i was thinking about moving to testing too, does someone know when if ever gnome3.8 arrives in the coming testing?" | May 03 20:18 |
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