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| eikonos | qu1j0t3: https://twitter.com/thatblogchick/status/329762503145967616 | May 02 02:49 |
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| TechrightsSocial | @thatblogchick: The only thing that stops a 5 year old with a gun is a 2 year old with a gun. Am I right @NRA ? #guncontrol http://t.co/H3CjLXwvbT | May 02 02:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Kentucky boy, 5, accidentally shoots to death 2-year-old sister - latimes.com .::. Size~: 213.84 KB | May 02 02:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: yeah :-(( | May 02 02:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: Don't they mean, the only thing that stops an unarmed 2 yo is a 5yo with a gun? | May 02 02:58 |
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| MinceR | i'd be more interested in what the only thing that stops a bullet is. | May 02 07:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | my ex-boss used to say, the best way to avoid a punch is not to be ther | May 02 15:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | e | May 02 15:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | same with bullets, I expect | May 02 15:17 |
| eikonos | i'd say that what stops bullets is apparently children | May 02 17:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | if the bullet keeps moving after the first child, just use a 2nd one | May 02 17:33 |
| eikonos | and if the child keeps moving, use a 2nd bullet! :P | May 02 17:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | true, bullets are cheap | May 02 17:38 |
| MinceR | good idea | May 02 18:41 |
| MinceR | let's build armor out of children! | May 02 18:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/the-weekly-update-chicago-atlanta-and-the-twin-cities-all-victims-of-corporate-reform-and-diane-ravitch-shares-her-thoughts/ | May 02 20:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: The Weekly Update: Chicago, Atlanta and the Twin Cities, all victims of corporate reform and Diane Ravitch shares her thoughts | Seattle Education .::. Size~: 84.73 KB | May 02 20:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | “We’ll have one set of schools for children being taught to be [Wal-Mart] greeters, and we’ll have one set of schools for children being taught to rule the world,” said Lewis. “Let’s not pretend that’s not racist.” | May 02 20:20 |
| eikonos | it's not racist | May 02 20:29 |
| eikonos | just classist | May 02 20:29 |
| eikonos | which is another accident of birth | May 02 20:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | and racist. | May 02 20:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | in effect | May 02 20:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's discriminatory | May 02 20:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | deliberately | May 02 20:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | those classes aren't exactly accidental, they are being maintained by policy | May 02 20:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | ed. reform is part of that | May 02 20:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | always was. it's to maintain inequality | May 02 20:30 |
| eikonos | sometimes i think you forget we live in a meritocracy. you are assigned merit based on who your parents are and who they know ;) | May 02 20:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | and what colour their skin is. | May 02 20:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | etc, etc, etc, etc. | May 02 20:30 |
| eikonos | clearly that's important, but it's not just about colour | May 02 20:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, but race is a big part of what's going on in Chicago | May 02 20:31 |
| eikonos | the british house of lords isn't available to every white male | May 02 20:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | we can certainly say it's about classes on various attributes | May 02 20:31 |
| eikonos | race is a distraction by the people in power | May 02 20:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes and no | May 02 20:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's also the most profound indicator of your social role in most societies | May 02 20:31 |
| eikonos | the real problem is that merit isn't assigned based on skill, social cooperation, etc | May 02 20:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | "most societies" as in every continent i've ever visited | May 02 20:32 |
| eikonos | yeah | May 02 20:32 |
| eikonos | even in india, lighter skin is better | May 02 20:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | yep | May 02 20:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | and white men are highest caste | May 02 20:32 |
| eikonos | yeah | May 02 20:32 |
| eikonos | maim gorah hai! | May 02 20:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's true that race is used as a distraction, but that's a side effect of this kind of abysmal policy as well | May 02 20:33 |
| MinceR | Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. | May 02 20:33 |
| eikonos | qu1j0t3: the white lords tell the poor whites, "the blacks and the mexicans are stealing your jobs!" | May 02 20:34 |
| eikonos | and "but don't you want to be on *top* of the bottom of the pile?" | May 02 20:34 |
| eikonos | of course there should be racial equality | May 02 20:35 |
| eikonos | and i guess working on that is a first step to actual meritocracy | May 02 20:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | some weeks ya wanna give up | May 02 20:35 |
| eikonos | no kidding | May 02 20:35 |
| eikonos | MinceR: what language is that? | May 02 20:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | we can't even get basic shit right | May 02 20:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | like, having schools | May 02 20:35 |
| MinceR | black speech | May 02 20:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/329684497241088000 | May 02 20:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | @mtaibbi: Today's Friedman column http://t.co/WIIoNNKqeK also most indistinguishable yet from the auto-Friedman generator http://t.co/9QdWCthYKn | May 02 20:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: It’s a 401(k) World - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 50.88 KB | May 02 20:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Thomas Friedman Op/Ed Generator .::. Size~: 2.5 KB | May 02 20:36 |
| eikonos | LOL | May 02 20:36 |
| eikonos | i read a couple from the generator | May 02 20:37 |
| eikonos | not sure i need to read an actual one | May 02 20:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | "We went from a connected world to a hyperconnected world. I’m always struck that Facebook, Twitter, 4G, iPhones, iPads, high-speech broadband, ubiquitous wireless and Web-enabled cellphones, the cloud, Big Data, cellphone apps and Skype did not exist or were in their infancy a decade ago when I wrote a book called “The World Is Flat.” All of that came since then, and the combination of | May 02 20:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | these tools of connectivity and creativity has created a global education, commercial, communication and innovation platform on which more people can start stuff, collaborate on stuff, learn stuff, make stuff (and destroy stuff) with more other people than ever before. | May 02 20:37 |
| eikonos | ha, saved by the NYT login page :P | May 02 20:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | what a fucking visionary he is | May 02 20:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | he predicted the internet ten years ago! | May 02 20:37 |
| MinceR | lol | May 02 20:37 |
| eikonos | qu1j0t3: John Galt has a website | May 02 20:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: actually, that education agenda is a bit more hostile than you may have realised | May 02 20:39 |
| eikonos | you can't access it though, it's only available through localhost | May 02 20:39 |
| MinceR | who is John Galt? :> | May 02 20:39 |
| eikonos | haha | May 02 20:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: it's mentioned in that article | May 02 20:39 |
| eikonos | qu1j0t3: i'm sure it is entirely hostile | May 02 20:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: it's meant to force blacks and hispanics out | May 02 20:40 |
| eikonos | and bring some weird version of bellicose jesus back | May 02 20:40 |
| eikonos | (riding a dinosaur) | May 02 20:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | "StudentsFirst, Inc., the controversial Sacramento-based education reform group headed by Michele Rhee, spent $99,122 over the past two years on media advertising to “influence legislative action” and other lobbying efforts. Meanwhile, the New York City-based 50CAN, Inc. spent $144,396 to lobby here. The chair of 50-CAN, Minnesota’s own Matthew Kramer, is also the CEO of Teach for | May 02 20:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | America, a group that has also been spending money in Minnesota to impact legislation and campaigns. | May 02 20:41 |
| MinceR | i prefer Raptor Jesus | May 02 20:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | this is nothign compared to what Gates is spending to promote his corporate cronies (Pearson) | May 02 20:41 |
| eikonos | critical thinking is critical | May 02 20:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh, i know! why don't we have education! | May 02 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | ...oops | May 02 20:44 |
| eikonos | and students ain't gonna lern it at the reformd skools | May 02 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | hardly a coincidence | May 02 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | let's read some more Friedman... | May 02 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | "What’s exciting is that this platform empowers individuals to access learning, retrain, engage in commerce, seek or advertise a job, invent, invest and crowd source — all online. | May 02 20:45 |
| eikonos | let's not | May 02 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | "If you are self-motivated, wow, this world is tailored for you. The boundaries are all gone. But if you’re not self-motivated, this world will be a challenge because the walls, ceilings and floors that protected people are also disappearing. | May 02 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | ah.. love it | May 02 20:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | the inner neo-con rightist twit comes out.. | May 02 20:45 |
| eikonos | actually, he's gonna give up all his wealth, and go work in a bhangladeshi garment factory to prove that you can rise to the top on willpower and hard work alone | May 02 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Government will do less for you. Companies will do less for you. Unions can do less for you. There will be fewer limits, but also fewer guarantees. Your specific contribution will define your specific benefits much more. Just showing up will not cut it. | May 02 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL | May 02 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | so, he's stating all this as if it's fact | May 02 20:46 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Random columnists will do less for you." | May 02 20:46 |
| eikonos | if you're george bush and you have to show up at the texas rangers, you don't even need to show up to get ahead | May 02 20:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | "I find a lot of this scary. We’re entering a world that increasingly rewards individual aspiration and persistence and can measure precisely who is contributing and who is not. This is not going away, so we better think how we help every citizen benefit from it. | May 02 20:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | ^^ | May 02 20:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | amazing | May 02 20:47 |
| eikonos | so he's all for arresting wall street bankers who broke actual laws to steal actual money? | May 02 20:48 |
| eikonos | because we can measure that shit | May 02 20:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL, yeah. our worthy well rewarded contributors. | May 02 20:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's kind of like he lives in a sealed box | May 02 20:48 |
| eikonos | i wish | May 02 20:48 |
| eikonos | airtight | May 02 20:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | JHAHA | May 02 20:48 |
| eikonos | is he on twitter | May 02 20:48 |
| eikonos | ? | May 02 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think so | May 02 20:49 |
| eikonos | hmm.. why am i not following taibbi? | May 02 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | don't know... | May 02 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | i thought you probably had been | May 02 20:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | meanwhile, in false dichotomies: https://twitter.com/amnesty/status/330046686942597120 | May 02 20:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | @amnesty: US #drone strikes being used as alternative to #Guantánamo, lawyer says http://t.co/XdwivMJR4p via @Guardian | May 02 20:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: US drone strikes being used as alternative to Guantánamo, lawyer says | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 129.67 KB | May 02 20:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | "The greatest threat of all is that charter schools are undermining the fundamental American principle that public schools should be governed by the communities they were built to serve. But one need only look at the Board of Directors of these various charter schools to see where education reform is taking us. Hiawatha Academies, for example, has a board of executives from major corporate | May 02 21:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | entities such as United Health, Best Buy, Standard Health, and U.S. Bank. Similar evidence can be found with dozens of other charters. In some cases, the charter chain headquarters are not even located in Minnesota. | May 02 21:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: best one yet. https://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/bill-gates-damage-control-via-student-test-prep-questions/ | May 02 21:10 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates’ Damage Control via Student Test Prep Questions? | Seattle Education .::. Size~: 75.61 KB | May 02 21:10 |
| eikonos | and also the sun shines out of his behind | May 02 21:16 |
| eikonos | they didn't mention that, probably because gates is so humble | May 02 21:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | Gates Foundation is one of the biggest, perhaps /the/ biggest player in ed. reform | May 02 21:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | this sort of thing is entirely predictable, it was predicted in fact | May 02 21:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | as an outcome of corporatising education | May 02 21:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: LOOK WE GOTTA INVADE FAST!!! http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/02/us-uk-syria-chemical-weapons-claims | May 02 21:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: US and UK to wait on fresh evidence over Syria chemical weapons claims | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 133.18 KB | May 02 21:23 |
| eikonos | yeah, but what if we use forensic science discover after 1850? | May 02 21:28 |
| eikonos | discovered* | May 02 21:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: nah, no need, let's just go in and kill em | May 02 21:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | worked in 2003 rite | May 02 21:44 |
| eikonos | "i came to canada. i found the doors of opportunity well-guarded" | May 02 22:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | indeed | May 02 22:52 |
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