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qu1j0t3wow, the Ford brothers are just total fuckheads:May 07 02:39
qu1j0t3  "Rob, fire-breathing conservative, says he’s pretty ideologically balanced and he’s misunderstood that way. Doug tells the mayor—the same one who refuses to attend Pride Week, who refers to social programs as ineffectual “hug-a-thug” plans, and who opposes monthly social assistance being increased from $606 to $620—that he’s two steps to the left of the Liberals on social issues.May 07 02:39
schestowitzUS is Stasi stae, but worse http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/former-fbi-counterterrorism-agent-all-digital-communications-and-phonecalls-are-recorded/May 07 02:50
TechrightsSocialTitle: Former FBI Counterterrorism Agent: "All Digital Communications" and Phone Calls are Recorded - The Vigilant Citizen - The Vigilant Citizen .::. Size~: 114.82 KBMay 07 02:50
qu1j0t3of courseMay 07 02:51
qu1j0t3we have known this for some time :)May 07 02:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598174May 07 02:55
schestowitz"This is freezing the market. No one wants a lock in desktop or laptop. They avoid Vista H8 because it is lock in as well as its unacceptably bad UI."May 07 02:55
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: Despite Vista 8 Failing in the Market, GNU/Linux Slow to Capitalise Due in Part to Microsoft’s UEFI Tricks http://techrights.org/2013/05/06/building-uefi-fences/May 07 02:55
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Despite Vista 8 Failing in the Market, GNU/Linux Slow to Capitalise Due in Part to Microsoft’s UEFI Tricks | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.47 KBMay 07 02:55
schestowitzqu1j0t3: many US citizens (not just US citizens) were in denial over itMay 07 02:56
schestowitzSave that clip, it's coming right from the horse's mouthMay 07 02:56
schestowitzIt also proves that heads of secret agencies have been lyingMay 07 02:56
schestowitzwith help from Murdoch as of lateMay 07 02:56
schestowitzFox helped cover this upMay 07 02:56
qu1j0t3big surpriseMay 07 02:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2597372May 07 02:57
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Pentagon Paying China — Yes, China — To Carry Data http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/china-pentagon-satellite/ media hype over #China 'hacks' not adding upMay 07 02:57
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Pentagon Paying China — Yes, China — To Carry Data | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 125.3 KBMay 07 02:57
schestowitz"Sir, there appears to be a Chink in our armour..."May 07 02:57
qu1j0t3US is also paying Russia to keep its arsenal safeMay 07 02:57
schestowitzqu1j0t3: later on they can data-mine all this to decide who goes into internment, at times of high unrestMay 07 02:57
schestowitzIt starts like thisMay 07 02:57
schestowitzSee the interviewMay 07 02:57
schestowitzthey say, she can own upMay 07 02:57
schestowitzSo they don't have to do the unconstitutionalMay 07 02:57
schestowitzIf she doesn't, they'll do the unconstitutional anywayMay 07 02:58
schestowitzIn other words, they're a bunch of fascistsMay 07 02:58
schestowitzThere is an attack by the police on Tor and now on SIP tooMay 07 02:58
schestowitzSo unless there are many microphones/Glass around, your onlu chance at private conversation is face to face, unless there's some secret bugging which is hard to verify anywayMay 07 02:59
schestowitzCCTV in the UK is being complemented by mics nowMay 07 02:59
schestowitzand people themselves sometimes operate those, with geo- and time-tagging to help locate nearby micsMay 07 02:59
schestowitzTrapWire and others help utilise this type of stuffMay 07 03:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598173May 07 03:00
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Despite #Vista8 Failing in the Market, #GNU #Linux Slow to Capitalise Due in Part to Microsoft’s #UEFI Tricks http://techrights.org/2013/05/06/building-uefi-fences/May 07 03:00
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Despite Vista 8 Failing in the Market, GNU/Linux Slow to Capitalise Due in Part to Microsoft’s UEFI Tricks | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.47 KBMay 07 03:00
schestowitz"That was the dirty trick to be sure GNU/Linux didn't take this chance."May 07 03:00
schestowitz"Anyway they won't succeed, I think Windows is falling quickly on next years."May 07 03:00
schestowitz"I can't wait. :)"May 07 03:00
schestowitz"Government is propping Microsoft up, but it's unlikely they will keep doing it. At some point, the "bailout" money and other corporate welfare will be too embarrassingly obvious."May 07 03:00
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598486May 07 03:01
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston #nsa records and keeps everythingMay 07 03:01
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 126.79 KBMay 07 03:01
schestowitzOf course! Everyone is now subject to US law, the DOJ says so. "When a person located abroad violates the laws of the United States, that person may be held criminally liable despite the fact that the person has never set foot in the United States"May 07 03:01
schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/4VLTp6yF18x https://torrentfreak.com/united-states-fears-end-of-megaupload-case-130505/May 07 03:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Will Hill - Google+ - Wow, They Said That “When a person located abroad violates… .::. Size~: 213.08 KBMay 07 03:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: U.S. Government Fears End of Megaupload Case | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 202.27 KBMay 07 03:01
schestowitzThis makes the US a rogue stateMay 07 03:01
qu1j0t3again , nothing new.May 07 03:01
schestowitzBy the standards they apply to N KoreaMay 07 03:01
qu1j0t3ask Gary McKinnonMay 07 03:01
qu1j0t3they have been operating on this principle for more than 10 yearsMay 07 03:02
schestowitzAP had a headline last month about N Korean charging person with a plot to overhtrow "regime"May 07 03:02
schestowitzI said, how would it be any different in the US?May 07 03:02
qu1j0t3i am starting to be censored on QuoraMay 07 03:02
qu1j0t3for not toe'ing the party line on Israel, I thinkMay 07 03:02
schestowitzThey too would do the same, if their "regime" (AP's headline term) was under such threat, and they already do this PROACTIVELYMay 07 03:02
qu1j0t3i might have discovered a passive censorship feature on the siteMay 07 03:02
qu1j0t3which brings me very close to abandoning itMay 07 03:03
schestowitzso write about itMay 07 03:03
qu1j0t3not sure yetMay 07 03:03
schestowitzI became very active in anti-censorship, I see more and more censorship nowMay 07 03:03
schestowitzWhat they permit you to say is a form of limitation of ideas we're allowed to expressMay 07 03:03
schestowitzPC, self-censorship, "dirty" words, racism, ToSs...May 07 03:04
schestowitzThe problem is not US of the West BTWMay 07 03:04
schestowitzRussia and China, for example, are not much better at all, probably worseMay 07 03:04
schestowitzThey just don't have the money and facility or even the need for massive datacentres that hold calls data, emails, etc.May 07 03:05
schestowitzThe US just had a lot of spare capital and debt (the rich can contribute to the control of the 99%) to make a control griid more sophisticated than the "Red" states, which since the Cold Wa they have called "second world countries"May 07 03:06
qu1j0t3of courseMay 07 03:06
schestowitzIf the US hadn't won the domination game (over the world), another nation would have taken charge, or a league of nationMay 07 03:06
schestowitzSo we're left choosing between evilsMay 07 03:07
schestowitzand sometimes I think, better the devuil I know than another I don't knowMay 07 03:07
schestowitzwhich is OK for me cause I'm CaucasianMay 07 03:07
qu1j0t3if they speak english they can't be evilMay 07 03:07
qu1j0t3rightMay 07 03:07
qu1j0t3white man's burdenMay 07 03:07
qu1j0t3to deal with evils of other racesMay 07 03:08
schestowitzBut Caucasian are a worls minorityMay 07 03:08
qu1j0t3that's why they are so fucking paranoidMay 07 03:08
schestowitzcontrary to common belief, which assume the 10% of the world ("West") is all that countsMay 07 03:08
schestowitzEurope+Canada+Australia+EU only make up about a third of what China isMay 07 03:08
schestowitzIn terms of land, China is much smallerMay 07 03:09
schestowitzRussian has a population side roughly on par with RuissiaMay 07 03:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598214May 07 03:10
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #IncomeTaxMay 07 03:10
TechrightsSocial  Photo by darth_azrael@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e982a8bd9df7a1e86a0a.jpgMay 07 03:10
schestowitz"Yes, because only people who work pay income taxes. Rich people avoid them. This injustice is a real turn off."May 07 03:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598486May 07 03:11
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston #nsa records and keeps everythingMay 07 03:11
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 126.79 KBMay 07 03:11
schestowitz"that just sucks... who do they think they are? Gods of this world?"May 07 03:11
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/100855194May 07 03:14
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-13 16:03:59 UTC - Identi.ca: The funds were not tracked, and apparently used for a variety of purposes contrary to our supposed "mission" in Afghanistan, such as 3 of nMay 07 03:14
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/100855205May 07 03:14
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-13 16:05:14 UTC - Identi.ca: helping fund peripheral ventures of the Taliban etc. It's a small country (population). Meanwhile, Afghanistan is the only country  4 of nMay 07 03:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Gray_is_good/status/330702839468916740May 07 03:20
TechrightsSocial@Gray_is_good: @schestowitz #cia #drones #boston #linux Didn't the Iranians spoof one of our whiz-bang drones into landing? Are drones safe to mass deploy?May 07 03:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/curupa/status/331591432999690240May 07 03:21
TechrightsSocial@curupa: @schestowitz @JorgeStolfi source?May 07 03:21
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qu1j0t3    schestowitz | "that just sucks... who do they think they are? Gods of this world?"    // Yes. they do.May 07 03:28
qu1j0t3 Are drones safe to mass deploy?    // For brown people? no. known to be fatal to brown people.May 07 03:28
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schestowitzthey hate the US because of drones, so it's okay for drones to kill them based on a kill list, never mind the recursiveness of this policy where hate is generated in circularity, justifying deathMay 07 03:31
qu1j0t3since this kind of brutality has never happened in history before, we may as well assume it will end happily.May 07 03:33
qu1j0t3NOBODY COULD POSSIBLY PREDICT retaliation or blowbackMay 07 03:33
schestowitzit helps drive profit for arms dealersMay 07 03:34
schestowitzpeace is war on their businessMay 07 03:35
qu1j0t3right they win while every public losesMay 07 04:09
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schestowitzyou could say it falls under "disaster capitalism"May 07 04:10
schestowitzKeeping us at constant war or constant disaster helpsMay 07 04:11
schestowitzThere is no financial disasterMay 07 04:11
schestowitzThere is a financial passage of power, which is a form of a crisis in and of its ownMay 07 04:11
schestowitzBut it's easier to reduce peoiple's wages, workers' rights etc. when you tell them there is a recession or whateverMay 07 04:11
schestowitzReducing work securityMay 07 04:11
eikonos1that's the funny thing about a recession. it's not a shortage of workers or "value-creators"May 07 04:12
eikonos1it's a shortage of funds...May 07 04:12
schestowitzWe need to reverse this trend, we need active people. I explained this to a friend of mine, Kieran, yesterdayMay 07 04:12
eikonos1but the poor people are spending all their funds/cashMay 07 04:12
schestowitzmoney is man-madeMay 07 04:12
eikonos1so a recession is really rich people hoardingMay 07 04:12
schestowitzthere is no shortage of moneyMay 07 04:12
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eikonosrightMay 07 04:12
schestowitzMaybe resources, but we have far too much food to feed everyone three times overMay 07 04:12
schestowitzso the "crisis" is man-made, just like "money"May 07 04:13
schestowitzAnd that's when you should begin to question the practice of austorit, and paying less for more hours of labourMay 07 04:13
schestowitzBTW, I had a payrise of 33% last month \0/May 07 04:13
schestowitzI always said, there's no economic crisis, just a class crisis, passage of wealth of legalised robberyMay 07 04:14
schestowitzYou could bail out people, not banksMay 07 04:14
schestowitzBut that would be more "socialist" than the socialism which is bank bailoutMay 07 04:14
schestowitzMeaning bailout for the richMay 07 04:14
schestowitzAlternet, IIRC, said some days ago that the top (wage-wise) 800,000 families in the US gained $5.6 TRILLION during the 'recovery' while the rest lost almost a trillion.May 07 04:15
schestowitzThis helped confirm what I had been allegingMay 07 04:16
schestowitzBill Gates got $7 billiob richer last year, based on reports (whether they can be trusted is another matter), and he is the one they call a "giver" (giving pledge, i.e. rich person's/hoarder's PR)May 07 04:16
schestowitzSo if you feel angry, you're not "irrational", you are sane *and* well informedMay 07 04:17
eikonosyeah, totallyMay 07 04:17
qu1j0t3   eikonos1 | it's a shortage of funds...     // the rich are richer than ever, so they have decided to manipulate May 07 04:21
eikonosrightMay 07 04:21
eikonosnot an actual shortage of fundsMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3eikonos: yu made a great pointMay 07 04:22
eikonosthere's still the same amount of money as the day beforeMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3there are more 'available hands' than everMay 07 04:22
eikonosi did?!May 07 04:22
qu1j0t3fully one quarter of SPain is uncommittedMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3imagine that!May 07 04:22
eikonosi like to call them "value creators" :PMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3one quarter of a country is reeady to workMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3but the rich don't want them to workMay 07 04:22
eikonosrightMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3they want to steal more insteadMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3they figured it's better not to have a functioning societyMay 07 04:22
qu1j0t3and you can see how that worksMay 07 04:23
eikonosyeahMay 07 04:23
qu1j0t3if you ruin 25% of the populationMay 07 04:23
qu1j0t3you are making them easier to controlMay 07 04:23
qu1j0t3you can start offering them crumbsMay 07 04:23
qu1j0t3instead of living wageMay 07 04:23
qu1j0t3and best of allMay 07 04:23
qu1j0t3the other 70% is terrifiedMay 07 04:23
qu1j0t3it's economic terrorismMay 07 04:23
eikonoshave you used curlftpfs on osx?May 07 04:23
qu1j0t3the Shock DoctrineMay 07 04:23
eikonosooh…economic terrorismMay 07 04:24
qu1j0t3eikonos: noMay 07 04:24
qu1j0t3eikonos: well there is no other word for it.May 07 04:24
qu1j0t3eikonos: society is in economic terror.May 07 04:24
qu1j0t3eikonos: it makes them fully controllable (via debt, or threat of destitution)May 07 04:24
*eikonos nodsMay 07 04:24
qu1j0t3student loansMay 07 04:24
qu1j0t3no choiceMay 07 04:24
qu1j0t3drone pilots can't afford to be conscientious objectorsMay 07 04:25
qu1j0t3If you want that new car, you better toe the lineMay 07 04:25
qu1j0t3and you do want it, because we made sure to train you toMay 07 04:25
qu1j0t3:)May 07 04:25
qu1j0t3nobody wants to end up like a greek or spaniardMay 07 04:26
qu1j0t3so be goodMay 07 04:26
qu1j0t3vote HarperMay 07 04:26
eikonosthe other thing is that if austerity worked, the third world wouldn't be the third world anymoreMay 07 04:27
qu1j0t3it works on whole countries tooMay 07 04:27
qu1j0t3there's a book, "Diary of an Economic Hit-man"May 07 04:27
qu1j0t3by a whistleblowerMay 07 04:28
qu1j0t3from the US State Dept (iirc)May 07 04:28
schestowitzhttp://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/08/2012810114857984434.htmlMay 07 04:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: US will not prosecute Goldman Sachs for fraud - Americas - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 108.59 KBMay 07 04:51
schestowitz[04:22] <qu1j0t3> but the rich don't want them to workMay 07 04:52
schestowitzIf they work, jobs are not a scracityMay 07 04:52
schestowitzIf there is no scarcity, people don't work as hard or accept very crappy wages/rewards per labourMay 07 04:53
schestowitzso high unemployment can be good to the globalistsMay 07 04:53
schestowitz[04:23] <qu1j0t3> it's economic terrorismMay 07 04:53
schestowitzyesMay 07 04:53
schestowitz[04:25] <qu1j0t3> and you do want it, because we made sure to train you toMay 07 04:54
schestowitzPeer pressure via indiscrimination in mass media - can't get a girl without a nice car May 07 04:54
schestowitzIrc logs recovery is due - mincer, can you pass me logs of this channel please? Thanks.May 07 04:58
MinceR_schestowitz: i'll try to do it todayMay 07 07:15
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schestowitzthanks :-)May 07 09:00
schestowitzqu1j0t3: http://techrights.org/2013/05/07/gates-and-zuckerberg-now-lobby-together/May 07 11:35
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gates, Ballmer, and Zuckerberg Lobby Together Against Public Interests, Relying on Corruptible Officials | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.8 KBMay 07 11:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2599908May 07 11:45
TechrightsSocial@linuxbird@joindiaspora.com: ### The Guardian: #DuckDuckGo offers search results that are just as good as Google's, and often less full of spam http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/02/how-stop-using-google-search-servicesMay 07 11:45
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TechrightsSocial-> Title: How to stop using Google - for search, email, video, maps and more | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 155.71 KBMay 07 11:45
schestowitzDuck Go Go uses Microsoft results. Use Frontpage.com instead.May 07 11:45
schestowitzStartpage.com I meanMay 07 11:45
MinceRbut what about Duck Duck Go?May 07 11:46
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qu1j0t3Duck au Go GoMay 07 15:10
MinceRalso, what's up with blekko?May 07 15:11
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qu1j0t3wait, wait, Science canhelp us????   http://thestar.blogs.com/worlddaily/2013/04/tackle-four-pollutants-to-combat-rising-sea-level-says-study.html May 07 17:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Tackle four pollutants to slow down rising sea levels: study - The World Daily .::. Size~: 61.6 KBMay 07 17:37
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schestowitzI've just started having a bout of hiccups for the first time in MANY years... which made me wonder where these evolved from... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiccupMay 07 18:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: Hiccup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 99.58 KBMay 07 18:03
schestowitz"A more recent explanation by Howes in 2012 suggests that hiccups may have evolved along with other reflexes developed in mammals that allow them to coordinate suckling milk and breathing.[4] Hiccups are only found in mammals, and are most common in infants, becoming rarer as mammals age. This may suggest that they evolved to allow air trapped in the stomach of suckling infants to escape, allowing more milk to be ingested. May 07 18:03
schestowitzThe hypothesis suggests that the air bubble in the stomach stimulates the sensory limb of the reflex at receptors in the stomach, esophagus and along the diaphragm. This triggers the hiccup, which creates suction in the chest, pulling air from the stomach up and out through the mouth, effectively burping the animal. This theory is supported by the strong tendency for infants to get hiccups, the component of the reflex that May 07 18:03
schestowitzsuppresses peristalsis in the esophagus, and the existence of hiccups only in milk-drinking mammals."May 07 18:03
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XFaCEqu1j0t3: schestowitz eikonos http://openmedia.org/FromanMay 07 20:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Michael Froman: Don’t Criminalize Our Internet | openmedia.org .::. Size~: 31.46 KBMay 07 20:05
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2600907May 07 20:14
TechrightsSocial@wildwalkerwoman@diasp.org: This leaves me ashamed of being #British :( #UKIPMay 07 20:14
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qu1j0t3ughMay 07 20:21
XFaCEindeedMay 07 21:08
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Wonder how they think of the Scottish national party XDEMay 07 21:09
XFaCEXDMay 07 21:09
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Which BTW, is actually reasonableMay 07 21:10
eikonosdoes the UKIP want independence from scotland and ireland?May 07 21:10
XFaCEeikonos: that's the question that I was hinting atMay 07 21:12
XFaCEeikonos: if they don't, well that's a little hypocritical at the very leastMay 07 21:13
eikonoswe should contact them and ask!May 07 21:14
qu1j0t3scumMay 07 21:15
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033924 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewow, the Ford brothers are just total fuckheads:
033928 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e "Rob, fire-breathing conservative, says he’s pretty ideologically balanced and he’s misunderstood that way. Doug tells the mayor—the same one who refuses to attend Pride Week, who refers to social programs as ineffectual “hug-a-thug” plans, and who opposes monthly social assistance being increased from $606 to $620—that he’s two steps to the left of the Liberals on social issues.
035020 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eUS is Stasi stae, but worse http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/former-fbi-counterterrorism-agent-all-digital-communications-and-phonecalls-are-recorded/
035023 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Former FBI Counterterrorism Agent: "All Digital Communications" and Phone Calls are Recorded - The Vigilant Citizen - The Vigilant Citizen .::. Size~: 114.82 KB
035156 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eof course
035211 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewe have known this for some time :)
035551 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598174
035553 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"This is freezing the market. No one wants a lock in desktop or laptop. They avoid Vista H8 because it is lock in as well as its unacceptably bad UI."
035555 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@linux@joindiaspora.com: Despite Vista 8 Failing in the Market, GNU/Linux Slow to Capitalise Due in Part to Microsoft’s UEFI Tricks http://techrights.org/2013/05/06/building-uefi-fences/
035556 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e-> Title: Despite Vista 8 Failing in the Market, GNU/Linux Slow to Capitalise Due in Part to Microsoft’s UEFI Tricks | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.47 KB
035606 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g equ1j0t3: many US citizens (not just US citizens) were in denial over it
035617 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eSave that clip, it's coming right from the horse's mouth
035628 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIt also proves that heads of secret agencies have been lying
035636 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ewith help from Murdoch as of late
035642 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eFox helped cover this up
035701 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebig surprise
035704 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2597372
035706 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Pentagon Paying China — Yes, China — To Carry Data http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/china-pentagon-satellite/ media hype over #China 'hacks' not adding up
035706 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e-> Title: Pentagon Paying China — Yes, China — To Carry Data | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 125.3 KB
035709 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Sir, there appears to be a Chink in our armour..."
035721 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eUS is also paying Russia to keep its arsenal safe
035728 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g equ1j0t3: later on they can data-mine all this to decide who goes into internment, at times of high unrest
035733 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIt starts like this
035736 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eSee the interview
035741 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ethey say, she can own up
035755 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eSo they don't have to do the unconstitutional
035803 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIf she doesn't, they'll do the unconstitutional anyway
035810 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIn other words, they're a bunch of fascists
035836 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThere is an attack by the police on Tor and now on SIP too
035912 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eSo unless there are many microphones/Glass around, your onlu chance at private conversation is face to face, unless there's some secret bugging which is hard to verify anyway
035925 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eCCTV in the UK is being complemented by mics now
035946 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eand people themselves sometimes operate those, with geo- and time-tagging to help locate nearby mics
040001 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eTrapWire and others help utilise this type of stuff
040017 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598173
040018 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Despite #Vista8 Failing in the Market, #GNU #Linux Slow to Capitalise Due in Part to Microsoft’s #UEFI Tricks http://techrights.org/2013/05/06/building-uefi-fences/
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040019 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"That was the dirty trick to be sure GNU/Linux didn't take this chance."
040031 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Anyway they won't succeed, I think Windows is falling quickly on next years."
040037 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"I can't wait. :)"
040054 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Government is propping Microsoft up, but it's unlikely they will keep doing it. At some point, the "bailout" money and other corporate welfare will be too embarrassingly obvious."
040129 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g equ1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598486
040131 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston #nsa records and keeps everything
040131 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e-> Title: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 126.79 KB
040132 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eOf course! Everyone is now subject to US law, the DOJ says so. "When a person located abroad violates the laws of the United States, that person may be held criminally liable despite the fact that the person has never set foot in the United States"
040133 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/4VLTp6yF18x https://torrentfreak.com/united-states-fears-end-of-megaupload-case-130505/
040134 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Will Hill - Google+ - Wow, They Said That “When a person located abroad violates… .::. Size~: 213.08 KB
040136 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: U.S. Government Fears End of Megaupload Case | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 202.27 KB
040139 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThis makes the US a rogue state
040147 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eagain , nothing new.
040149 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eBy the standards they apply to N Korea
040150 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eask Gary McKinnon
040203 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethey have been operating on this principle for more than 10 years
040209 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eAP had a headline last month about N Korean charging person with a plot to overhtrow "regime"
040220 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eI said, how would it be any different in the US?
040227 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei am starting to be censored on Quora
040240 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g efor not toe'ing the party line on Israel, I think
040246 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThey too would do the same, if their "regime" (AP's headline term) was under such threat, and they already do this PROACTIVELY
040256 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei might have discovered a passive censorship feature on the site
040305 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewhich brings me very close to abandoning it
040306 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eso write about it
040311 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g enot sure yet
040322 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eI became very active in anti-censorship, I see more and more censorship now
040339 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eWhat they permit you to say is a form of limitation of ideas we're allowed to express
040357 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ePC, self-censorship, "dirty" words, racism, ToSs...
040437 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThe problem is not US of the West BTW
040451 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eRussia and China, for example, are not much better at all, probably worse
040513 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThey just don't have the money and facility or even the need for massive datacentres that hold calls data, emails, etc.
040601 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThe US just had a lot of spare capital and debt (the rich can contribute to the control of the 99%) to make a control griid more sophisticated than the "Red" states, which since the Cold Wa they have called "second world countries"
040651 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eof course
040652 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIf the US hadn't won the domination game (over the world), another nation would have taken charge, or a league of nation
040658 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eSo we're left choosing between evils
040712 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eand sometimes I think, better the devuil I know than another I don't know
040747 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ewhich is OK for me cause I'm Caucasian
040750 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eif they speak english they can't be evil
040751 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eright
040754 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewhite man's burden
040759 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eto deal with evils of other races
040801 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eBut Caucasian are a worls minority
040809 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethat's why they are so fucking paranoid
040819 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g econtrary to common belief, which assume the 10% of the world ("West") is all that counts
040844 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eEurope+Canada+Australia+EU only make up about a third of what China is
040858 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIn terms of land, China is much smaller
040908 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eRussian has a population side roughly on par with Ruissia
041032 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598214
041034 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #IncomeTax
041034 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e Photo by darth_azrael@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e982a8bd9df7a1e86a0a.jpg
041037 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Yes, because only people who work pay income taxes. Rich people avoid them. This injustice is a real turn off."
041057 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2598486
041057 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/04/telephone-calls-recorded-fbi-boston #nsa records and keeps everything
041058 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e-> Title: Are all telephone calls recorded and accessible to the US government? | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 126.79 KB
041105 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"that just sucks... who do they think they are? Gods of this world?"
041421 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://identi.ca/notice/100855194
041424 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-13 16:03:59 UTC - Identi.ca: The funds were not tracked, and apparently used for a variety of purposes contrary to our supposed "mission" in Afghanistan, such as 3 of n
041455 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://identi.ca/notice/100855205
041456 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-13 16:05:14 UTC - Identi.ca: helping fund peripheral ventures of the Taliban etc. It's a small country (population). Meanwhile, Afghanistan is the only country 4 of n
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042007 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/Gray_is_good/status/330702839468916740
042007 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Gray_is_good: @schestowitz #cia #drones #boston #linux Didn't the Iranians spoof one of our whiz-bang drones into landing? Are drones safe to mass deploy?
042135 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/curupa/status/331591432999690240
042135 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@curupa: @schestowitz @JorgeStolfi source?
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042804 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e schestowitz | "that just sucks... who do they think they are? Gods of this world?" // Yes. they do.
042828 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e Are drones safe to mass deploy? // For brown people? no. known to be fatal to brown people.
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043058 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ethey hate the US because of drones, so it's okay for drones to kill them based on a kill list, never mind the recursiveness of this policy where hate is generated in circularity, justifying death
043302 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g esince this kind of brutality has never happened in history before, we may as well assume it will end happily.
043324 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eNOBODY COULD POSSIBLY PREDICT retaliation or blowback
043452 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eit helps drive profit for arms dealers
043458 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g epeace is war on their business
050935 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eright they win while every public loses
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051049 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eyou could say it falls under "disaster capitalism"
051059 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eKeeping us at constant war or constant disaster helps
051106 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThere is no financial disaster
051125 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThere is a financial passage of power, which is a form of a crisis in and of its own
051147 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eBut it's easier to reduce peoiple's wages, workers' rights etc. when you tell them there is a recession or whatever
051153 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eReducing work security
051202 8/<g:/ 9/eikonos1g8/>g ethat's the funny thing about a recession. it's not a shortage of workers or "value-creators"
051208 8/<g:/ 9/eikonos1g8/>g eit's a shortage of funds...
051213 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eWe need to reverse this trend, we need active people. I explained this to a friend of mine, Kieran, yesterday
051217 8/<g:/ 9/eikonos1g8/>g ebut the poor people are spending all their funds/cash
051228 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g emoney is man-made
051231 8/<g:/ 9/eikonos1g8/>g eso a recession is really rich people hoarding
051234 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ethere is no shortage of money
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051237 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eright
051248 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eMaybe resources, but we have far too much food to feed everyone three times over
051303 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eso the "crisis" is man-made, just like "money"
051325 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eAnd that's when you should begin to question the practice of austorit, and paying less for more hours of labour
051335 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eBTW, I had a payrise of 33% last month \0/
051432 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eI always said, there's no economic crisis, just a class crisis, passage of wealth of legalised robbery
051437 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eYou could bail out people, not banks
051450 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eBut that would be more "socialist" than the socialism which is bank bailout
051457 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eMeaning bailout for the rich
051546 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eAlternet, IIRC, said some days ago that the top (wage-wise) 800,000 families in the US gained $5.6 TRILLION during the 'recovery' while the rest lost almost a trillion.
051558 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThis helped confirm what I had been alleging
051640 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eBill Gates got $7 billiob richer last year, based on reports (whether they can be trusted is another matter), and he is the one they call a "giver" (giving pledge, i.e. rich person's/hoarder's PR)
051718 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eSo if you feel angry, you're not "irrational", you are sane *and* well informed
051748 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eyeah, totally
052135 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e eikonos1 | it's a shortage of funds... // the rich are richer than ever, so they have decided to manipulate
052155 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eright
052200 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g enot an actual shortage of funds
052209 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: yu made a great point
052210 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ethere's still the same amount of money as the day before
052216 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethere are more 'available hands' than ever
052217 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei did?!
052223 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g efully one quarter of SPain is uncommitted
052226 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eimagine that!
052228 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei like to call them "value creators" :P
052232 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eone quarter of a country is reeady to work
052236 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebut the rich don't want them to work
052240 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eright
052242 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethey want to steal more instead
052251 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethey figured it's better not to have a functioning society
052308 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand you can see how that works
052312 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eyeah
052318 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eif you ruin 25% of the population
052323 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eyou are making them easier to control
052328 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eyou can start offering them crumbs
052332 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g einstead of living wage
052342 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand best of all
052346 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethe other 70% is terrified
052350 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eit's economic terrorism
052350 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ehave you used curlftpfs on osx?
052354 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethe Shock Doctrine
052357 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eooh…economic terrorism
052359 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: no
052409 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: well there is no other word for it.
052413 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: society is in economic terror.
052426 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: it makes them fully controllable (via debt, or threat of destitution)
052427 =/ * eikonosg nods
052435 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g estudent loans
052441 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eno choice
052504 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g edrone pilots can't afford to be conscientious objectors
052527 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eIf you want that new car, you better toe the line
052540 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand you do want it, because we made sure to train you to
052542 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e:)
052558 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g enobody wants to end up like a greek or spaniard
052600 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eso be good
052603 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g evote Harper
052717 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ethe other thing is that if austerity worked, the third world wouldn't be the third world anymore
052749 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eit works on whole countries too
052756 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethere's a book, "Diary of an Economic Hit-man"
052802 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eby a whistleblower
052810 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g efrom the US State Dept (iirc)
055129 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttp://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/08/2012810114857984434.html
055131 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: US will not prosecute Goldman Sachs for fraud - Americas - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 108.59 KB
055236 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e[04:22] <qu1j0t3> but the rich don't want them to work
055243 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIf they work, jobs are not a scracity
055304 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIf there is no scarcity, people don't work as hard or accept very crappy wages/rewards per labour
055313 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eso high unemployment can be good to the globalists
055340 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e[04:23] <qu1j0t3> it's economic terrorism
055341 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eyes
055417 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e[04:25] <qu1j0t3> and you do want it, because we made sure to train you to
055443 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ePeer pressure via indiscrimination in mass media - can't get a girl without a nice car
055848 8/<g >/schestowitzg8/>g eIrc logs recovery is due - mincer, can you pass me logs of this channel please? Thanks.
081503 8/<g:/ =/MinceR_g8/>g eschestowitz: i'll try to do it today
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100038 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ethanks :-)
123551 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g equ1j0t3: http://techrights.org/2013/05/07/gates-and-zuckerberg-now-lobby-together/
123602 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Gates, Ballmer, and Zuckerberg Lobby Together Against Public Interests, Relying on Corruptible Officials | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.8 KB
124502 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2599908
124505 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@linuxbird@joindiaspora.com: ### The Guardian: #DuckDuckGo offers search results that are just as good as Google's, and often less full of spam http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/may/02/how-stop-using-google-search-services
124505 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e Photo by linuxbird@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ad23e9adc840d027a290.png
124506 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e-> Title: How to stop using Google - for search, email, video, maps and more | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 155.71 KB
124514 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eDuck Go Go uses Microsoft results. Use Frontpage.com instead.
124532 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eStartpage.com I mean
124644 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g ebut what about Duck Duck Go?
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161028 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eDuck au Go Go
161108 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g ealso, what's up with blekko?
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183747 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewait, wait, Science canhelp us???? http://thestar.blogs.com/worlddaily/2013/04/tackle-four-pollutants-to-combat-rising-sea-level-says-study.html
183748 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Tackle four pollutants to slow down rising sea levels: study - The World Daily .::. Size~: 61.6 KB
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190303 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eI've just started having a bout of hiccups for the first time in MANY years... which made me wonder where these evolved from... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiccup
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190320 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"A more recent explanation by Howes in 2012 suggests that hiccups may have evolved along with other reflexes developed in mammals that allow them to coordinate suckling milk and breathing.[4] Hiccups are only found in mammals, and are most common in infants, becoming rarer as mammals age. This may suggest that they evolved to allow air trapped in the stomach of suckling infants to escape, allowing more milk to be ingested.
190322 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThe hypothesis suggests that the air bubble in the stomach stimulates the sensory limb of the reflex at receptors in the stomach, esophagus and along the diaphragm. This triggers the hiccup, which creates suction in the chest, pulling air from the stomach up and out through the mouth, effectively burping the animal. This theory is supported by the strong tendency for infants to get hiccups, the component of the reflex that
190323 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g esuppresses peristalsis in the esophagus, and the existence of hiccups only in milk-drinking mammals."
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210523 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: schestowitz eikonos http://openmedia.org/Froman
210526 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Michael Froman: Don’t Criminalize Our Internet | openmedia.org .::. Size~: 31.46 KB
211436 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g equ1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2600907
211441 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@wildwalkerwoman@diasp.org: This leaves me ashamed of being #British :( #UKIP
211441 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e Photo by wildwalkerwoman@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ab4137d169f47e5b7b96.jpg
212110 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eugh
220849 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g eindeed
220949 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: Wonder how they think of the Scottish national party XDE
220950 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g eXD
221007 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: Which BTW, is actually reasonable
221040 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g edoes the UKIP want independence from scotland and ireland?
221243 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g eeikonos: that's the question that I was hinting at
221316 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g eeikonos: if they don't, well that's a little hypocritical at the very least
221453 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewe should contact them and ask!
221527 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g escum
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