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*Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010May 11 03:55
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schestowitzblech UKIP http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2013/05/07/godfrey-bloom-of-ukip-central-bankers-should-be-arraigned-as-war-criminals/May 11 07:49
TechrightsSocialTitle: Godfrey Bloom of UKIP:  Central Bankers Should be Arraigned as “War Criminals” | A Lightning War for Liberty .::. Size~: 36.86 KBMay 11 07:49
schestowitzSchools are about occupying children's time (school is derived from a Greek word meaning leisure time) and are typically orthogonal to education. In other languages too the word for school does not correlate with education, not directly anyway. Some activities, like hiking or sports, is being rebranded education, e.g. PE (physical education), even though it's not. Indoctrination in line with the state's rulers (public schoolsMay 11 10:03
schestowitz or parents' desire (private school) or a sect (religious schools) is the primary goal.May 11 10:03
schestowitzLikewise, police is not for policingMay 11 10:04
schestowitzIt's a case of rich people paying *some* of the poor to protect them from the other poor. They label those who are paid "policemen" and help legitimise those, esp. riot police (guardians between classes, separators)May 11 10:04
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100924718May 11 10:20
TechrightsSocial@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Saturday, 11-May-13 08:57:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz after a while you will not know who's the android. you or the phone ;)May 11 10:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2610811May 11 10:20
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Identica over in less than 20 days, D* activity own significantly this month, #Twitter participation falling rapidly too (based on stats)May 11 10:20
schestowitz"I wonder where people are going?"May 11 10:20
schestowitzExactly. That's wy I posted it. GPlus/YouTube are not big as social networks, LinkedIn actually seems to have grown a lot, but it's different in nature...May 11 10:21
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100924835May 11 10:21
TechrightsSocial@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Saturday, 11-May-13 09:17:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that is creepyMay 11 10:21
schestowitz(linkedin) http://identi.ca/conversation/99785210#notice-100924835May 11 10:21
TechrightsSocialTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.86 KBMay 11 10:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/firusvg/statuses/333141795515019264May 11 10:29
TechrightsSocial@firusvg: What #usaid really is about http://t.co/MGuxEzAZFp ? /via @schestowitz #fbMay 11 10:29
TechrightsSocial-> Title: L.A. Times' Distorted Report on USAID .::. Size~: 52.29 KBMay 11 10:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/normnz/status/333031868037488641May 11 10:35
TechrightsSocial@normnz: "At its most basic, a computer is just a calculator capable of performing mental steps faster than a human could" #ttrtptMay 11 10:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jamie_love/status/332911225174372355May 11 10:39
TechrightsSocial@jamie_love: @glynmoody There are times when comments do make a difference. But recently, IP coordination is tightly controlled by corporate lobbies.May 11 10:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/333135011748397056May 11 10:42
TechrightsSocial@zoobab: @ipwatchdog tangible components? My brain is also tangible, but that does not make a mental act patentable hein.May 11 10:42
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100925314May 11 11:34
TechrightsSocial@Glyn Moody (glynmoody)'s status on Saturday, 11-May-13 10:25:47 UTC - Identi.ca: regrettableMay 11 11:34
schestowitzre drpizza http://identi.ca/conversation/99784674#notice-100925314May 11 11:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.67 KBMay 11 11:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2610961May 11 11:35
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just noticed that the latest #thunderbird build has support (off by default) for #donottrack - #mozilla #email #privacyMay 11 11:35
schestowitz"How is that managed for email, though? Or is it just for HTML-prompted resource fetching?"May 11 11:35
schestowitzI use Thunderbird as a browser, using ThuderBrowse; some use it to open pages less casually.May 11 11:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611114May 11 11:51
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Thank you, Debian, for all your hard work. We'll take it from here. Love, Mark. http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-working-on-new-linux-application-installer-7000015174/May 11 11:51
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Ubuntu working on new Linux application installer | ZDNet .::. Size~: 65.98 KBMay 11 11:51
schestowitz"Another step into a new #Apple?!"May 11 11:51
schestowitzThey wish. Mark admires Apple, which is said to be a profitable company.May 11 11:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611209May 11 12:33
TechrightsSocial@ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: ## **Balancing Privacy and Free Expression in the ['Right To Be Forgotten'](https://www.cdt.org/blogs/gs-hans/0905-right-be-forgotten-challenges-and-suggested-change-data-protection-regulation?utm_content=buffer9a20f&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer)** #CenterForDemocracyAndTechnology #RightToBeForgotten #Right-To-Be-Forgotten #privacy #FreeExpressionMay 11 12:33
TechrightsSocial  Photo by ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_b8fd85f62cee61390b2f.PNGMay 11 12:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Balancing Privacy and Free Expression in the 'Right To Be Forgotten' | Center for Democracy & Technology .::. Size~: 34.71 KBMay 11 12:33
schestowitz"Right to be forgotten" need not have anything to do with publication. Is someone wrote a truthful article about you which you don't like, you should not impede that free speech. It's not libel. However, when it comes to corporations collecting data on you and never letting it loose (data retention), then your political views 50 years down the line might not "be forgotten", which is a real threat to freedom. It's surveillanceMay 11 12:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611241May 11 12:55
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #UK #Libel #Law Gets Much Needed Update – But Also Threatens Online #Anonymity https://www.cdt.org/blogs/andrew-mcdiarmid/0805uk-libel-law-gets-much-needed-update-%25E2%2580%2593-also-threatens-online-anonymity?utm_content=buffer4f036&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=BufferMay 11 12:55
TechrightsSocial-> Title: UK Libel Law Gets Much Needed Update – But Also Threatens Online Anonymity | Center for Democracy & Technology .::. Size~: 37.16 KBMay 11 12:55
schestowitz"Link is no more working for me"May 11 12:55
schestowitzShould work fine, I've checked.May 11 12:55
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*Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010May 11 14:26
schestowitzMinceR: are the IRC logs still available for this channel? I hope to process+publish  tomorrowMay 11 15:38
MinceRyesMay 11 15:38
MinceRwhich time interval do you want?May 11 15:38
MinceRand which channels?May 11 15:38
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schestowitzpreferably social and techrights, april 1st to present. The more crucial one is social, as I didn't have a second box on itMay 11 16:06
MinceRvia email?May 11 16:08
schestowitzthat would be goodMay 11 16:10
MinceRokMay 11 16:14
schestowitz"May 11 16:19
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,May 11 16:19
schestowitz> May 11 16:19
schestowitz> Groklaw has been around for a decade as of next Thursday.May 11 16:20
schestowitz> May 11 16:20
schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroklawMay 11 16:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: Groklaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 88.09 KBMay 11 16:20
schestowitz> May 11 16:20
schestowitz> It's worth noting with a post, I think.May 11 16:20
schestowitzI donated to Groklaw last Christmas. A lot of post ideas of mine are derived by what PJ collects and back in the days I provided her with post ideas for years. TR is now more independent, it grew a followers base since the days I helped PJ (until around 2009). It is worth noting that "Linux Advocates" hardly has any new posts anymore; Dietrich shot his own foot, he had had some potential before that.May 11 16:20
schestowitz"May 11 16:20
schestowitz> Ten years is a good milestone, especially since she had to be convincedMay 11 17:11
schestowitz> not to throw in the towel a few years ago.  I think the site hadMay 11 17:11
schestowitz> influenced several of the big cases in a positive way, but cannot recallMay 11 17:11
schestowitz> specific examples.May 11 17:11
schestowitz> May 11 17:11
schestowitz>> It is worth noting that "Linux Advocates" hardly has any new postsMay 11 17:11
schestowitz>> anymore; Dietrich shot his own foot, he had had some potential beforeMay 11 17:11
schestowitz>> that.May 11 17:11
schestowitz> May 11 17:11
schestowitz> Yeah.  I don't know what Dietrich can do now to recover.May 11 17:11
schestowitzHe relied on mass-submission of the articles to LXer, LT, etc. I think they're more reluctant to let a controversial character in the Linux community do this...May 11 17:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611241May 11 17:12
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #UK #Libel #Law Gets Much Needed Update – But Also Threatens Online #Anonymity https://www.cdt.org/blogs/andrew-mcdiarmid/0805uk-libel-law-gets-much-needed-update-%25E2%2580%2593-also-threatens-online-anonymity?utm_content=buffer4f036&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=BufferMay 11 17:12
TechrightsSocial-> Title: UK Libel Law Gets Much Needed Update – But Also Threatens Online Anonymity | Center for Democracy & Technology .::. Size~: 37.16 KBMay 11 17:12
schestowitz"May 11 17:13
schestowitzThe law is bad since it encourages defamation trolling and fails to recognise the essential difference between forums and social networks on the one hand where accusation and defence can be freely exchanged without restriction, while on the other hand, print media, tv, radio, news/info sites don't allow free access to people to deny accusations.May 11 17:13
schestowitzIt fails to recognise the essential character of a media of free exchange such as the internet which is that one is NOT supposed to believe everything one reads on the internet, whereas people are encouraged to believe what they read in the newspapers, tv and radio.May 11 17:13
schestowitzThis is why I think the internet is so healthy - it forces one, after a time, to take a "street-wise" attitude.May 11 17:13
schestowitzThat's why the ruling class hate it ;)May 11 17:13
schestowitz"May 11 17:13
schestowitz> I have to say I did not enjoy his take on perl nor the claim that thereMay 11 17:58
schestowitz> is stigma on the name 'linux'.  Both are M$ talking points.  Perl is aMay 11 17:58
schestowitz> very useful language that has no substitute for many tasks, yet it (andMay 11 17:58
schestowitz> the shell) get attacked constantly by M$.  The attacks mainly come,May 11 17:58
schestowitz> IMHO, because M$ has no answer to them.  Dietrich should be building theMay 11 17:58
schestowitz> community not repeating M$ talking points.  There's controversy and thenMay 11 17:58
schestowitz> there's being plain wrong.May 11 17:58
schestowitzHe says he chooses provocative issues and I think he does it for traffic. It's different from advocacy.May 11 17:58
schestowitzhttps://en.wikispedia.org/wiki/BjörkMay 11 18:55
TechrightsSocialCouldn't resolve host 'en.wikispedia.org' ( https://en.wikispedia.org/wiki/Björk )May 11 18:55
schestowitz"Björk was born and raised in Reykjavík, Iceland. Her mother is Hildur Rúna Hauksdóttir, an activist who protested against Kárahnjúkar, a controversial hydro-electric development in Iceland,[10] and her father is Guðmundur Gunnarsson, a union leader and electrician."May 11 18:55
schestowitz"Björk's father, Guðmundur Gunnarsson, is a well known union leader in Iceland and was nationally recognized before his daughter became famous. Her mother, Hildur Rúna Hauksdóttir, has also been politically active."May 11 18:56
schestowitz"On 12 September 1996, obsessed fan Ricardo López mailed an acid-spraying letter bomb to Björk's London home and then killed himself, but the package was intercepted by the Metropolitan Police Service.[81] López filmed himself in the process of making the acid bomb which was intended to severely scar the singer's face and torso. The nearly 18 hours of videotape described López's obsession with Björk, the construction of May 11 19:00
schestowitzthe device, his thoughts on love and other subjects, including racial remarks against Björk's then-boyfriend Goldie. The video footage continues after his mailing the bomb to Björk's London home and ends as López shaves his head, applies face paint, and commits suicide by shooting himself on camera"May 11 19:00
schestowitzNutcaseMay 11 19:00
schestowitz>> He says he chooses provocative issues and I think he does it forMay 11 19:08
schestowitz>> traffic. It's different from advocacy.May 11 19:08
schestowitz> May 11 19:08
schestowitz> I haven't seen much advocacy out of him.  If he hasn't already gone tooMay 11 19:08
schestowitz> far, he will soon.  It's not the issues that are provocative it's takingMay 11 19:08
schestowitz> M$ stance on them that are provoking the one audience that the siteMay 11 19:08
schestowitz> purports to aim for.  I hope this is not a repeat of staropenoffice.May 11 19:08
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/333303449938706433 May 11 20:38
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: #Windows dev flags dysfunction: "We started caring about security because…XP was…existential threat to the business" http://t.co/s5p35SioTbMay 11 20:38
qu1j0t3schestowitz: nothing surprisingMay 11 20:38
TechrightsSocial-> Title: "I Contribute to the Windows Kernel. We Are Slower Than Other Operating Systems. Here Is Why." - Zorinaq .::. Size~: 41.96 KBMay 11 20:38
MinceRfunny how that m$ drone insist their programmers are still oh-so-good considering the quality of their productsMay 11 20:40
qu1j0t3lolMay 11 20:41
qu1j0t3i think the stuff in this post was obvious to an outside observerMay 11 20:41
qu1j0t3morale is known to be very bad within the companyMay 11 20:42
MinceRprobably also that they believe themselves to be better than anyone else despite all evidence to the contraryMay 11 20:42
qu1j0t3hehMay 11 20:44
qu1j0t3they wouldn't be alone in thatMay 11 20:44
qu1j0t3but most of them are just lyiongMay 11 20:44
qu1j0t3lying(May 11 20:44
qu1j0t3and it's not actually "belief"May 11 20:44
MinceRwell, i don't know if they believe their own propaganda or notMay 11 20:45
qu1j0t3i doubt most canMay 11 20:46
MinceRschestowitz: do you want #techbytes logs as well?May 11 20:49
eikonosMS would be better off if it was broken up into different companiesMay 11 20:50
MinceRi don't care for m$ being better offMay 11 20:50
qu1j0t3eikonos: ikr?May 11 20:51
eikonoswell, yeahMay 11 20:51
MinceRi care for the rest of the world being better offMay 11 20:51
qu1j0t3eikonos: that was suggested a little while backMay 11 20:51
qu1j0t3eikonos: but Bush happenedMay 11 20:51
MinceRand that would be better without m$May 11 20:51
qu1j0t3MinceR: yesMay 11 20:51
qu1j0t3MinceR: strictly speaking that is the optimal answer.May 11 20:51
eikonosballmer is the perfect leader -- totally cluelessMay 11 20:51
qu1j0t3eikonos: it would be funny if it weren't so damaging.May 11 20:51
qu1j0t3they really do need to not exist.May 11 20:51
qu1j0t3in factMay 11 20:51
qu1j0t3many of us are surprised they do exist.May 11 20:51
qu1j0t3in 2000 it wasn't at all obvious that MS would be alive and thriving in 2013.May 11 20:52
MinceRonly a handful of people need m$ to exist, and those people don't matterMay 11 20:52
qu1j0t3those people actually need to be homelessMay 11 20:52
qu1j0t3(Gates)May 11 20:52
qu1j0t3i hope Gates is living under a bridge, within my lifetimeMay 11 20:52
qu1j0t3or in prisonMay 11 20:52
qu1j0t3even betterMay 11 20:52
eikonosGates behind Bars :PMay 11 20:52
qu1j0t3actually i'm not sure which is betterMay 11 20:52
qu1j0t3either would doMay 11 20:52
eikonoswell, whatever MS is up to now, seems to be aimed at proving without a doubt that their past success was accidentalMay 11 20:53
MinceRdead or in prison would be fineMay 11 20:53
eikonosdid you see this? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2013/05/08/calgary-acad-chicken-teacher-fired.htmlMay 11 20:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: Alberta art college instructor fired after chicken slaughter - Calgary - CBC News .::. Size~: 57.38 KBMay 11 20:54
eikonosand then they all went to KFC for dinner… (not really)May 11 20:54
eikonosi blame radical vegans :PMay 11 20:55
qu1j0t3eikonos: that soup doesn't look very appetising.May 11 20:56
eikonosright. i don't think they ate itMay 11 20:56
eikonoswhy would the public need to donate money for a stenographer at Manning's trial?May 11 21:29
eikonossurely the govt doesn't need to hold a bake sale for that?May 11 21:29
qu1j0t3weirdMay 11 21:34
eikonosoh, the govt has one, but won't release the transcriptsMay 11 21:34
eikonoshttps://pressfreedomfoundation.org/May 11 21:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: Freedom of the Press Foundation .::. Size~: 23.51 KBMay 11 21:34
qu1j0t3...May 11 21:34
eikonosseems oddMay 11 21:34
eikonoshow much does a stenographer cost?May 11 21:34
eikonosand then to post it on a website.. May 11 21:35
eikonoscan't be more than $500 a day?May 11 21:35
qu1j0t3no ideaMay 11 21:36
qu1j0t3but it seems like we are solving the wrong problemMay 11 21:37
eikonosare you even allowed to bring a stenotype into the courtroom?May 11 21:39
eikonosas a member of the publicMay 11 21:40
schestowitzhttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7296459264/hC76C1262/May 11 21:45
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMay 11 21:45
MinceR:3May 11 21:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2610915May 11 21:48
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Researchers establish link between #racism and #stupidity Findings taken from numerous research projects strongly indicate that #prejudice, #racism and #intolerance are more likely to be present in individuals with greater #cognitiverigidity, less #cognitiveflexibility and lower #integrativecomplexity.  http://www.ucanews.com/news/researchers-establish-link-between-intolerance-racism-and-stuMay 11 21:48
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TechrightsSocial-> Title: Researchers establish link between racism and stupidity  ucanews.com .::. Size~: 21.31 KBMay 11 21:48
schestowitz"I established that link decades ago. -.-"May 11 21:48
eikonoshttp://www.mendeley.com/research/intolerance-psychopathology-toward-general-diagnosis-racism-sexism-homophobia/May 11 22:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Intolerance and psychopathology: ... preview & related info | Mendeley .::. Size~: 54.28 KBMay 11 22:01
eikonosnot entirely sure what to think of thatMay 11 22:02
eikonosseems to me that racism and homophobia and such intolerant attitudes seem to occur often in groupsMay 11 22:18
eikonosand that such ideas are even signs of group membershipMay 11 22:19
eikonosmaybe less intelligent people hold such ideas in order to belong to groups, and thus feel safeMay 11 22:19
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qu1j0t3certainlyMay 11 22:22
qu1j0t3it's not like 'the idea of hating black people' comes from a vacuum or is naturalMay 11 22:22
eikonosyeahMay 11 22:22
qu1j0t3it's learnedMay 11 22:22
qu1j0t3my favourite racists are the ones in places like FloridaMay 11 22:22
qu1j0t3who say "crime is genetic"May 11 22:23
qu1j0t3(real quote from a guy i worked for)May 11 22:23
qu1j0t3so first they learn the beliefMay 11 22:23
eikonosi was thinking/wondering if stupidity is based on biological scarcity of whatever brain capacity determines intelligence, or if stupidity might also be caused by prioritising group membership over actually considering whether ideas are true or notMay 11 22:23
qu1j0t3then they learn how to wrap it up so they can believe the belief is axiomaticMay 11 22:23
qu1j0t3the latter seems very commonMay 11 22:24
qu1j0t3because questioning is uncomfortableMay 11 22:24
qu1j0t3i mean, why bother?May 11 22:24
eikonoshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22222219May 11 22:25
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bright minds and dark attitudes: lower cognitive... [Psychol Sci. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI .::. Size~: 80.68 KBMay 11 22:25
eikonosdoes the study predict that people with more interactions with social out-groups will tend to be more intelligent?May 11 22:26
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roy_I hear this in the UK too, justifying race for discrimination, ignoring class factor    May 11 22:29
roy_https://twitter.com/kaigara_online/statuses/333302808159854593May 11 22:29
TechrightsSocial@kaigara_online: @schestowitz aha! You're here also. :-)May 11 22:29
-tomaw-[Global Notice] Hi all. We're just completing some administrative tasks after services extended tea break. They'll return shortly. Sorry for the outage!May 11 22:29
roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2612372May 11 22:31
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Is there any #organization that is #not #funded by #gates ? http://dianeravitch.net/2013/05/09/is-there-any-organization-that-is-not-funded-by-gates/May 11 22:31
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roy_"Mozilla?"May 11 22:31
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Is There Any Organization That Is Not Funded by Gates? | Diane Ravitch's blog .::. Size~: 103.68 KBMay 11 22:31
MinceRFSF?May 11 22:31
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qu1j0t3eikonos: https://www.quora.com/Racism/Why-does-racism-still-persist-in-the-First-World/answer/Gary-Payton-1 May 11 22:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: Answer to Racism: Why does racism still persist in the First World? - Quora .::. Size~: 50.92 KBMay 11 22:45
eikonoswhat does "monetarily efficient" mean in this sentence? "Modern economics are most monitarily efficient when there's maximum differences in economic power in society."May 11 22:46
qu1j0t3i don't know. but his first sentence was pretty cogent.May 11 22:47
eikonosthe second paragraph is goodMay 11 22:48
eikonosyeah, the first sentence is godMay 11 22:48
eikonosgood*May 11 22:48
qu1j0t3:)May 11 22:54
qu1j0t3eikonos: r u working today?May 11 22:54
eikonosnoMay 11 22:55
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roy_MinceR: I looked up a fewMay 11 23:32
roy_mozilla, ACLUMay 11 23:32
roy_Not listedMay 11 23:32
roy_didn't try EFFMay 11 23:32
roy_http://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database#q/k=Urban%20leagueMay 11 23:33
TechrightsSocialTitle: Awarded Grants - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation .::. Size~: 47.57 KBMay 11 23:33
roy_ASPMay 11 23:33
roy_EFF not listedMay 11 23:33
roy_ACLU has board members from Gatds Foundation thoughMay 11 23:34
MinceRthat's sadMay 11 23:34
roy_civil liberties..May 11 23:35
roy_from plutocratsMay 11 23:35
roy_those who are actully behind those violations that ACLU strives to fightMay 11 23:35
roy_And CLU spreads Google and Android FUD now, lobbying politicians on itMay 11 23:35
MinceRdoes ACLU otherwise recognize that m$ is part of the problem?May 11 23:35
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roy_I can't recall them ever ciriticising MSFTMay 11 23:53
roy_Cryptome did, maybe ACLU just cited thatMay 11 23:53
roy_!google aclu microsoftMay 11 23:54
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084907 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eblech UKIP http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2013/05/07/godfrey-bloom-of-ukip-central-bankers-should-be-arraigned-as-war-criminals/
084910 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Godfrey Bloom of UKIP: Central Bankers Should be Arraigned as “War Criminals” | A Lightning War for Liberty .::. Size~: 36.86 KB
110344 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eSchools are about occupying children's time (school is derived from a Greek word meaning leisure time) and are typically orthogonal to education. In other languages too the word for school does not correlate with education, not directly anyway. Some activities, like hiking or sports, is being rebranded education, e.g. PE (physical education), even though it's not. Indoctrination in line with the state's rulers (public schools)
110346 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e or parents' desire (private school) or a sect (religious schools) is the primary goal.
110358 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eLikewise, police is not for policing
110436 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIt's a case of rich people paying *some* of the poor to protect them from the other poor. They label those who are paid "policemen" and help legitimise those, esp. riot police (guardians between classes, separators)
112001 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttp://identi.ca/notice/100924718
112002 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Saturday, 11-May-13 08:57:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz after a while you will not know who's the android. you or the phone ;)
112026 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2610811
112027 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Identica over in less than 20 days, D* activity own significantly this month, #Twitter participation falling rapidly too (based on stats)
112030 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"I wonder where people are going?"
112100 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eExactly. That's wy I posted it. GPlus/YouTube are not big as social networks, LinkedIn actually seems to have grown a lot, but it's different in nature...
112128 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttp://identi.ca/notice/100924835
112129 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Saturday, 11-May-13 09:17:17 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that is creepy
112143 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e(linkedin) http://identi.ca/conversation/99785210#notice-100924835
112143 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.86 KB
112914 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/firusvg/statuses/333141795515019264
112916 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@firusvg: What #usaid really is about http://t.co/MGuxEzAZFp ? /via @schestowitz #fb
112919 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e-> Title: L.A. Times' Distorted Report on USAID .::. Size~: 52.29 KB
113507 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/normnz/status/333031868037488641
113507 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@normnz: "At its most basic, a computer is just a calculator capable of performing mental steps faster than a human could" #ttrtpt
113947 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/jamie_love/status/332911225174372355
113948 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@jamie_love: @glynmoody There are times when comments do make a difference. But recently, IP coordination is tightly controlled by corporate lobbies.
114157 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/333135011748397056
114158 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@zoobab: @ipwatchdog tangible components? My brain is also tangible, but that does not make a mental act patentable hein.
123432 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttp://identi.ca/notice/100925314
123435 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Glyn Moody (glynmoody)'s status on Saturday, 11-May-13 10:25:47 UTC - Identi.ca: regrettable
123444 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ere drpizza http://identi.ca/conversation/99784674#notice-100925314
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123518 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2610961
123521 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just noticed that the latest #thunderbird build has support (off by default) for #donottrack - #mozilla #email #privacy
123524 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"How is that managed for email, though? Or is it just for HTML-prompted resource fetching?"
123607 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eI use Thunderbird as a browser, using ThuderBrowse; some use it to open pages less casually.
125133 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611114
125134 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Thank you, Debian, for all your hard work. We'll take it from here. Love, Mark. http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-working-on-new-linux-application-installer-7000015174/
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125136 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Another step into a new #Apple?!"
125151 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThey wish. Mark admires Apple, which is said to be a profitable company.
133318 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611209
133319 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: ## **Balancing Privacy and Free Expression in the ['Right To Be Forgotten'](https://www.cdt.org/blogs/gs-hans/0905-right-be-forgotten-challenges-and-suggested-change-data-protection-regulation?utm_content=buffer9a20f&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer)** #CenterForDemocracyAndTechnology #RightToBeForgotten #Right-To-Be-Forgotten #privacy #FreeExpression
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133443 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Right to be forgotten" need not have anything to do with publication. Is someone wrote a truthful article about you which you don't like, you should not impede that free speech. It's not libel. However, when it comes to corporations collecting data on you and never letting it loose (data retention), then your political views 50 years down the line might not "be forgotten", which is a real threat to freedom. It's surveillance.
135523 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611241
135524 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #UK #Libel #Law Gets Much Needed Update – But Also Threatens Online #Anonymity https://www.cdt.org/blogs/andrew-mcdiarmid/0805uk-libel-law-gets-much-needed-update-%25E2%2580%2593-also-threatens-online-anonymity?utm_content=buffer4f036&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer
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135531 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Link is no more working for me"
135536 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eShould work fine, I've checked.
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163804 8/<g:/ </schestowitzg8/>g eMinceR: are the IRC logs still available for this channel? I hope to process+publish tomorrow
163810 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eyes
163823 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g ewhich time interval do you want?
163827 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eand which channels?
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170651 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g epreferably social and techrights, april 1st to present. The more crucial one is social, as I didn't have a second box on it
170840 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g evia email?
171052 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ethat would be good
171419 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eok
171952 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
171954 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> Hi, Roy,
171955 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>
171957 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> Groklaw has been around for a decade as of next Thursday.
171958 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>
172000 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groklaw
172001 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Groklaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 88.09 KB
172001 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>
172003 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> It's worth noting with a post, I think.
172005 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eI donated to Groklaw last Christmas. A lot of post ideas of mine are derived by what PJ collects and back in the days I provided her with post ideas for years. TR is now more independent, it grew a followers base since the days I helped PJ (until around 2009). It is worth noting that "Linux Advocates" hardly has any new posts anymore; Dietrich shot his own foot, he had had some potential before that.
172006 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
181122 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> Ten years is a good milestone, especially since she had to be convinced
181123 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> not to throw in the towel a few years ago. I think the site had
181125 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> influenced several of the big cases in a positive way, but cannot recall
181126 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> specific examples.
181128 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>
181129 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>> It is worth noting that "Linux Advocates" hardly has any new posts
181131 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>> anymore; Dietrich shot his own foot, he had had some potential before
181132 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>> that.
181134 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>
181135 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> Yeah. I don't know what Dietrich can do now to recover.
181137 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eHe relied on mass-submission of the articles to LXer, LT, etc. I think they're more reluctant to let a controversial character in the Linux community do this...
181210 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2611241
181213 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #UK #Libel #Law Gets Much Needed Update – But Also Threatens Online #Anonymity https://www.cdt.org/blogs/andrew-mcdiarmid/0805uk-libel-law-gets-much-needed-update-%25E2%2580%2593-also-threatens-online-anonymity?utm_content=buffer4f036&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer
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181302 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
181303 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThe law is bad since it encourages defamation trolling and fails to recognise the essential difference between forums and social networks on the one hand where accusation and defence can be freely exchanged without restriction, while on the other hand, print media, tv, radio, news/info sites don't allow free access to people to deny accusations.
181305 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eIt fails to recognise the essential character of a media of free exchange such as the internet which is that one is NOT supposed to believe everything one reads on the internet, whereas people are encouraged to believe what they read in the newspapers, tv and radio.
181307 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThis is why I think the internet is so healthy - it forces one, after a time, to take a "street-wise" attitude.
181308 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThat's why the ruling class hate it ;)
181309 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
185815 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> I have to say I did not enjoy his take on perl nor the claim that there
185817 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> is stigma on the name 'linux'. Both are M$ talking points. Perl is a
185818 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> very useful language that has no substitute for many tasks, yet it (and
185820 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> the shell) get attacked constantly by M$. The attacks mainly come,
185821 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> IMHO, because M$ has no answer to them. Dietrich should be building the
185823 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> community not repeating M$ talking points. There's controversy and then
185824 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> there's being plain wrong.
185826 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eHe says he chooses provocative issues and I think he does it for traffic. It's different from advocacy.
195503 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://en.wikispedia.org/wiki/Björk
195506 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eCouldn't resolve host 'en.wikispedia.org' ( https://en.wikispedia.org/wiki/Björk )
195507 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Björk was born and raised in Reykjavík, Iceland. Her mother is Hildur Rúna Hauksdóttir, an activist who protested against Kárahnjúkar, a controversial hydro-electric development in Iceland,[10] and her father is Guðmundur Gunnarsson, a union leader and electrician."
195636 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"Björk's father, Guðmundur Gunnarsson, is a well known union leader in Iceland and was nationally recognized before his daughter became famous. Her mother, Hildur Rúna Hauksdóttir, has also been politically active."
200006 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"On 12 September 1996, obsessed fan Ricardo López mailed an acid-spraying letter bomb to Björk's London home and then killed himself, but the package was intercepted by the Metropolitan Police Service.[81] López filmed himself in the process of making the acid bomb which was intended to severely scar the singer's face and torso. The nearly 18 hours of videotape described López's obsession with Björk, the construction of
200007 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ethe device, his thoughts on love and other subjects, including racial remarks against Björk's then-boyfriend Goldie. The video footage continues after his mailing the bomb to Björk's London home and ends as López shaves his head, applies face paint, and commits suicide by shooting himself on camera"
200009 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eNutcase
200757 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>> He says he chooses provocative issues and I think he does it for
200759 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>> traffic. It's different from advocacy.
200800 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>
200802 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> I haven't seen much advocacy out of him. If he hasn't already gone too
200803 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> far, he will soon. It's not the issues that are provocative it's taking
200805 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> M$ stance on them that are provoking the one audience that the site
200806 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> purports to aim for. I hope this is not a repeat of staropenoffice.
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213850 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eschestowitz: https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/333303449938706433
213852 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@qu1j0t3: #Windows dev flags dysfunction: "We started caring about security because…XP was…existential threat to the business" http://t.co/s5p35SioTb
213853 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eschestowitz: nothing surprising
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214012 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g efunny how that m$ drone insist their programmers are still oh-so-good considering the quality of their products
214145 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g elol
214153 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei think the stuff in this post was obvious to an outside observer
214200 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g emorale is known to be very bad within the company
214242 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eprobably also that they believe themselves to be better than anyone else despite all evidence to the contrary
214357 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eheh
214403 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethey wouldn't be alone in that
214413 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebut most of them are just lyiong
214415 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g elying(
214420 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand it's not actually "belief"
214540 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g ewell, i don't know if they believe their own propaganda or not
214647 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei doubt most can
214908 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eschestowitz: do you want #techbytes logs as well?
215034 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eMS would be better off if it was broken up into different companies
215055 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g ei don't care for m$ being better off
215059 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: ikr?
215059 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewell, yeah
215103 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g ei care for the rest of the world being better off
215104 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: that was suggested a little while back
215107 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: but Bush happened
215108 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eand that would be better without m$
215112 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: yes
215118 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: strictly speaking that is the optimal answer.
215120 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eballmer is the perfect leader -- totally clueless
215129 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: it would be funny if it weren't so damaging.
215143 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethey really do need to not exist.
215148 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ein fact
215153 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g emany of us are surprised they do exist.
215206 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ein 2000 it wasn't at all obvious that MS would be alive and thriving in 2013.
215210 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eonly a handful of people need m$ to exist, and those people don't matter
215221 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethose people actually need to be homeless
215223 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e(Gates)
215239 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei hope Gates is living under a bridge, within my lifetime
215243 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eor in prison
215245 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeven better
215251 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eGates behind Bars :P
215252 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eactually i'm not sure which is better
215254 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeither would do
215342 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewell, whatever MS is up to now, seems to be aimed at proving without a doubt that their past success was accidental
215356 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g edead or in prison would be fine
215418 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g edid you see this? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2013/05/08/calgary-acad-chicken-teacher-fired.html
215419 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Alberta art college instructor fired after chicken slaughter - Calgary - CBC News .::. Size~: 57.38 KB
215427 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eand then they all went to KFC for dinner… (not really)
215503 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei blame radical vegans :P
215635 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: that soup doesn't look very appetising.
215647 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eright. i don't think they ate it
222915 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewhy would the public need to donate money for a stenographer at Manning's trial?
222926 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g esurely the govt doesn't need to hold a bake sale for that?
223357 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eweird
223401 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eoh, the govt has one, but won't release the transcripts
223402 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ehttps://pressfreedomfoundation.org/
223404 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Freedom of the Press Foundation .::. Size~: 23.51 KB
223413 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e...
223438 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eseems odd
223444 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ehow much does a stenographer cost?
223457 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eand then to post it on a website..
223504 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ecan't be more than $500 a day?
223649 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eno idea
223657 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebut it seems like we are solving the wrong problem
223941 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eare you even allowed to bring a stenotype into the courtroom?
224002 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eas a member of the public
224538 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7296459264/hC76C1262/
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224601 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g e:3
224815 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2610915
224818 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Researchers establish link between #racism and #stupidity Findings taken from numerous research projects strongly indicate that #prejudice, #racism and #intolerance are more likely to be present in individuals with greater #cognitiverigidity, less #cognitiveflexibility and lower #integrativecomplexity. http://www.ucanews.com/news/researchers-establish-link-between-intolerance-racism-and-stup
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224818 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"I established that link decades ago. -.-"
230129 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ehttp://www.mendeley.com/research/intolerance-psychopathology-toward-general-diagnosis-racism-sexism-homophobia/
230130 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Intolerance and psychopathology: ... preview & related info | Mendeley .::. Size~: 54.28 KB
230206 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g enot entirely sure what to think of that
231843 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eseems to me that racism and homophobia and such intolerant attitudes seem to occur often in groups
231902 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eand that such ideas are even signs of group membership
231932 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g emaybe less intelligent people hold such ideas in order to belong to groups, and thus feel safe
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232133 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ecertainly
232149 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eit's not like 'the idea of hating black people' comes from a vacuum or is natural
232154 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eyeah
232155 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eit's learned
232223 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g emy favourite racists are the ones in places like Florida
232228 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewho say "crime is genetic"
232239 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e(real quote from a guy i worked for)
232303 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eso first they learn the belief
232317 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei was thinking/wondering if stupidity is based on biological scarcity of whatever brain capacity determines intelligence, or if stupidity might also be caused by prioritising group membership over actually considering whether ideas are true or not
232318 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethen they learn how to wrap it up so they can believe the belief is axiomatic
232402 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethe latter seems very common
232406 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebecause questioning is uncomfortable
232419 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei mean, why bother?
232539 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ehttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22222219
232541 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Bright minds and dark attitudes: lower cognitive... [Psychol Sci. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI .::. Size~: 80.68 KB
232558 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g edoes the study predict that people with more interactions with social out-groups will tend to be more intelligent?
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232925 8/<g:/ 9/roy_g8/>g eI hear this in the UK too, justifying race for discrimination, ignoring class factor
232929 8/<g:/ 9/roy_g8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/kaigara_online/statuses/333302808159854593
232930 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@kaigara_online: @schestowitz aha! You're here also. :-)
233113 8/<g:/ 9/roy_g8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2612372
233122 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Is there any #organization that is #not #funded by #gates ? http://dianeravitch.net/2013/05/09/is-there-any-organization-that-is-not-funded-by-gates/
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233123 8/<g:/ 9/roy_g8/>g e"Mozilla?"
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233152 8/<g:/ =/MinceRg8/>g eFSF?
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