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qu1j0t3eikonos: letter from Andrew Cash NDP about harper's attack dronesMay 16 01:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100977256May 16 01:32
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-13 21:18:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz why not?May 16 01:32
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100977550May 16 01:32
TechrightsSocial@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-13 21:49:08 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz #CIA ups stake in DB-as-a-service firm http://ur1.ca/dvdll #In-Q-Tel investments: #Cloudera #10Gen, #ArcSight. #cloud #spyMay 16 01:32
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2622435May 16 01:33
eikonoswow… http://www.newyorker.com/strongbox/May 16 01:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Man From #Microsoft Runs the Ubuntu Project Now http://techrights.org/2013/05/15/ubuntu-and-microsoft-veteran/ #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linuxMay 16 01:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Man From Microsoft Runs the Ubuntu Project Now | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.16 KBMay 16 01:33
TechrightsSocialTitle: The New Yorker | Strongbox .::. Size~: 53.33 KBMay 16 01:33
schestowitz"ubuntu 18.04 - weasly windows"May 16 01:33
schestowitzeikonos: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2622548May 16 01:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Strongbox and Aaron #Swartz http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/05/strongbox-and-aaron-swartz.html oddly enough from #wikileaks foe, Kevin PoulsenMay 16 01:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Strongbox and Aaron Swartz : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 112.14 KBMay 16 01:33
schestowitz"Is that a typo? You would or would not trust the author?"May 16 01:34
qu1j0t3eikonos: yeah, i had no idea...May 16 01:37
qu1j0t3eikonos: almost encouraging Serious Journalism!May 16 01:37
qu1j0t3the New Yorker has often surprised me (in a good way)May 16 01:37
qu1j0t3despite being in the same city as the NYT...May 16 01:37
eikonosyou've surprised me, despite being from the same city as rob ford :PMay 16 01:38
qu1j0t3HAHAHAHMay 16 01:39
qu1j0t3i'm not saying that my association there was very rational :DMay 16 01:39
eikonosnor am i :PMay 16 01:39
eikonosyeah, i like the nytMay 16 01:39
eikonoss subscribes to the paper oneMay 16 01:39
eikonosi mean new yorkerMay 16 01:40
eikonosnot the nyt...May 16 01:40
eikonosi'm surprised whenever i read anything worthwhile in the nytMay 16 01:40
eikonosfor example, this http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/opinion/how-austerity-kills.html?_r=5&emc=rss&partner=rss&pagewanted=all&May 16 01:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Log In - The New York Times .::. Size~: 10.42 KBMay 16 01:41
eikonosi can actually recommend thatMay 16 01:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2623047May 16 01:43
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The spy in the blond wig, Ryan Fogle, was not the first CIA agent to be caught by Russian security services this year" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-agent-claims-ryan-fogle-is-not-the-first-cia-agent-caught-this-year-8617901.htmlMay 16 01:43
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Russian agent claims Ryan Fogle is not the first CIA agent caught this year - Europe - World - The Independent .::. Size~: 132.3 KBMay 16 01:43
schestowitz"I'm always amazed on this idea of "fooling the enemy" by wearing something that is totally different from your regular appearance. Come on - if you have dark eyebrows, you should - most probobly - also have dark hair. It is obvious, and people who have that either wear a wig or dye their hair. You don't have to be a genius to figure that out, americans! [or - to be more specific - mistaz CIAs]."May 16 01:43
schestowitzeikonos:can't recommend paywalll... can't sse it. Is it Krugman? He strongly protested against austerity.May 16 01:44
eikonos"By DAVID STUCKLER and SANJAY BASU"May 16 01:45
schestowitz[13:47] <schestowitz> qu1j0t3: what s/w do you use to echo twitter in IRC?May 16 01:46
qu1j0t3schestowitz: A bot I wrote.May 16 02:02
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you saw it running, right?May 16 02:03
schestowitzyes, you see..May 16 02:05
schestowitzidenti.ca is moving to a new platformMay 16 02:06
schestowitzso twitfolk would no longer work, it used to work with Twitter up until OAuth was introduced around 2010May 16 02:06
schestowitzAnd now identi.ca is going to change too, and I'm not good a Perl, so can't rewrite the softwareMay 16 02:07
qu1j0t3i'm a bit time limited. but check the channel i pm'd to you to see if this bot can work for you.May 16 02:07
qu1j0t3today i thought of some improvementsMay 16 02:07
schestowitzdoes it havs ab option for one-line output?May 16 02:08
qu1j0t3it could be modified.May 16 02:09
qu1j0t3i don't like 1 line output.May 16 02:09
qu1j0t3i have some ideas to improve the formattingMay 16 02:11
eikonoslike putting it on one line? ;)May 16 02:11
schestowitzphpirc would expand the tweetMay 16 02:11
schestowitzso a bot that just outputs twitter updates as URL would do the trickMay 16 02:11
qu1j0t3eikonos: well that may be your preference, but it's not mine :)May 16 02:11
schestowitzI've set that channel to join on connectMay 16 02:12
qu1j0t3hahaMay 16 02:12
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's VERY busyMay 16 02:12
qu1j0t3schestowitz: this is unusually quietMay 16 02:12
qu1j0t3eikonos: i find long lines hard to read. typographically speaking, it's known to be less legible :)May 16 02:14
schestowitz"http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/34616/May 16 02:15
schestowitz"May 16 02:15
TechrightsSocialTitle: LXer: This article is pure FUD: Systemd: Got Choice? .::. Size~: 20.42 KBMay 16 02:15
schestowitzLinux Advocates is quickly turning into a schizophrentic version of BoycottNovell. One minute the guy is praising Fedora and Yum, the next he is scaremongering complete nonsense about developers and users being coerced into using systemd.May 16 02:15
schestowitzTo make it worse this guy often gets his facts wrong and then doesn't correct his articles or comments. I believe the Linux Foundation even asked them to remove their mention from the sponsorship page.May 16 02:15
schestowitzLinux Advocates should change its name to Linux Trollcats.May 16 02:15
schestowitz"May 16 02:15
qu1j0t3hahaMay 16 02:17
schestowitzme:May 16 02:22
schestowitz "May 16 02:22
schestowitzI was invited to write for LA. I saw it from the inside for weeks. What a lot of people don't know (or choose not to know) is that Dietrich has some chronic deletionism issue which drove many contributors away from the site. A lot of the comments never ever show up. You may not know this because the suppressed voices never come to light. I, on he contrary, never ever deleted a blog comment. I give my critics courtesy. But I May 16 02:23
schestowitzdidn't Dietrich criticise for his policy of deleting comments (for lack of agreement, not for rudeness, so this was purely censorship and perception management).  When Dietrich attacked members of the community, as he did to Fab (Linux Outlaws), I usually chose to stay quiet. One day I just said "Fab is not a troll" (after Dietrich had attacked him in public) and those 5 words were enough for him  to kick me out. No incidentsMay 16 02:23
schestowitzprior to it. I am not exaggerating. At leas4 4 contributors (now suppressed by him) wrote to me by E-mail about it. I'm not alone.May 16 02:23
schestowitzIt's not what you know about LA. It's what you don't know about LA.May 16 02:23
schestowitz"May 16 02:23
schestowitzalso:May 16 02:30
schestowitz"May 16 02:30
schestowitzBoycott Novell did not call itself "Linux Advocates". Personally, based on what several Linux advocates told me, "Linux Advocates" is not about advocacy. Dietrich, unlike Katherine, admits it's a kind of experiment to see who passes his "advocacy" test (I can find you the direct quote); he already used to site to attack -- in public -- some longterm advocates.May 16 02:30
schestowitzBoycott Novell was created in November 2006 shortly after the campaign to tax GNU/Linux (now Android and Chrome OS) using patents had begun. We needed to contain the bad precedent by removing the bad practice or at least marginalising it. It could become an unchallenged norm if it weren't for activism. A lot of people misunderstood Boycott Novell because Novell and Microsoft employees (among others) worked hard to demonise May 16 02:30
schestowitzand misrepresent the site, including me personally.May 16 02:30
schestowitz"May 16 02:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2622435May 16 02:31
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Man From #Microsoft Runs the Ubuntu Project Now http://techrights.org/2013/05/15/ubuntu-and-microsoft-veteran/ #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linuxMay 16 02:31
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Man From Microsoft Runs the Ubuntu Project Now | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.16 KBMay 16 02:31
schestowitz"LOL@Herzmeister der welten"May 16 02:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/chmod755_/status/334627164370640896May 16 02:52
TechrightsSocial@chmod755_: @schestowitz obviously GIMP'd!May 16 02:52
schestowitzMessage #1May 16 03:04
schestowitz> I'm starting to think it's a set up, that he's solicited authors to waste May 16 03:04
schestowitz> their time and make fun of them.  Time will tell but he's already deleted May 16 03:04
schestowitz> enough legitimate opinion for me to consider his site hostile territory like May 16 03:04
schestowitz> ZDNet.  I never considered the stuff he passed along worth following closely May 16 03:04
schestowitz> because much of it was the usual troll juice.  I avoided commenting in his May 16 03:04
schestowitz> group until he made the posts public but worried all along that Google's May 16 03:04
schestowitz> "communities" gave too much power to one person to censor and waste time.  Now May 16 03:04
schestowitz> I see that some of my concerns were justified.  May 16 03:04
schestowitz> May 16 03:04
schestowitz> I decided to ask him directly what he's doing here and he tried to drag me off May 16 03:04
schestowitz> to his comment system,May 16 03:04
schestowitz> May 16 03:04
schestowitz> https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/CkJ7sFAWCryMay 16 03:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Will Hill - Google+ - What are you trying to do, +Dietrich Schmitz?  If you think… .::. Size~: 283.12 KBMay 16 03:04
schestowitz> May 16 03:04
schestowitz> Now he's acting like a smart ass and calling me names again.May 16 03:04
schestowitz> May 16 03:04
schestowitz> On Wednesday, April 03, 2013, you wrote:May 16 03:04
schestowitz>>   > Why would a "Linux Advocates" site give a voice to either?  May 16 03:04
schestowitz>>May 16 03:04
schestowitz>> He didn't know better...May 16 03:04
schestowitzMessage #3May 16 03:05
schestowitz> That FEWT person who called Pogson "poison"?  Oh, that explains a lot.  May 16 03:05
schestowitz> May 16 03:05
schestowitz> On Tuesday, April 02, 2013, you wrote:May 16 03:05
schestowitz>> He recently gave the platform to someone who trolls Techrights and callsMay 16 03:05
schestowitz>> RMS pedophile. It's one whom he gave a GUEST ARTICLE position; I chooseMay 16 03:05
schestowitz>> not to censor or silence, so I said nothing.May 16 03:05
schestowitzMessage #0:May 16 03:06
schestowitz> Thanks for the heads up, it does not look good.  He was really pulling May 16 03:06
schestowitz> together an interesting community.  I'll have a closer look at it but it would May 16 03:06
schestowitz> be a shame if the purpose of pulling the community together was to troll, May 16 03:06
schestowitz> harass and waste the time of the members.  May 16 03:06
schestowitz> May 16 03:06
schestowitz> He tells us,May 16 03:06
schestowitz> May 16 03:07
schestowitz> "I live in search of finding what is hidden away, just under the surface May 16 03:07
schestowitz> exterior of things.  You get so you realize that instinctively things are not May 16 03:07
schestowitz> quite the way they seem.  You see, people only tell you what they want you to May 16 03:07
schestowitz> know and you see only what they want you to see. "May 16 03:07
schestowitz> May 16 03:07
schestowitz> Maybe he should have named his community, "Paranoid Linux Interrogations".  May 16 03:07
schestowitz> May 16 03:07
schestowitz> May 16 03:07
schestowitz> May 16 03:07
schestowitz> On Tuesday, April 02, 2013, Roy Schestowitz wrote:May 16 03:07
schestowitz>> Dietrich Schmitz has now clashed with no less than three #linuxMay 16 03:07
schestowitz>> advocates including two colleagues. Not good.May 16 03:07
schestowitz>> http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/04/colleague-exhibits-bad-behavior.htmlMay 16 03:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: Colleague Exhibits Bad Behavior   ~ Linux Advocates .::. Size~: 262.56 KBMay 16 03:07
schestowitzMessage #2May 16 03:10
schestowitz> I'm sorry to see more of this hostility.  Yes, he deleted the comment.  He  May 16 03:10
schestowitz> left a comment berating him for trolling, but the overall editorship is May 16 03:10
schestowitz> hostile and dishonest.  That's two posts designed to belittle the people he's May 16 03:10
schestowitz> invited to write for him and later baited.  What a nasty waste of everyone's May 16 03:10
schestowitz> time.May 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> I'm glad you preserved your comment, Roy.  He uses deleted comments to accuse May 16 03:10
schestowitz> people of things that no one can verify.  He did this to me in the thread that May 16 03:10
schestowitz> convinced me that it was a dangerous waste of time to comment in the Google May 16 03:10
schestowitz> group.  He did it to me again when I asked him why he was abusing Robert May 16 03:10
schestowitz> Pogson.  May 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/6XQR4AH5DWtMay 16 03:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Will Hill - Google+ - Dropping +Linux Advocates group.  The moderator deleted my… .::. Size~: 249.65 KBMay 16 03:10
schestowitz> https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/CkJ7sFAWCryMay 16 03:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Will Hill - Google+ - What are you trying to do, +Dietrich Schmitz?  If you think… .::. Size~: 282.85 KBMay 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> I would be very happy, Fabian, for you publish your free software articles to May 16 03:10
schestowitz> my gnu/linux advocates group.  My only condition is that you do not openly May 16 03:10
schestowitz> promote non free software and that you put up with or correct my comments May 16 03:10
schestowitz> warning people about non free components. May 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/106017135473041159744May 16 03:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: GNU/Linux Advocates - Google+ .::. Size~: 350.54 KBMay 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> Swapnil also has an excellent group and feed for his Muktware publication, May 16 03:10
schestowitz> which I'm sure everyone is aware of.May 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109482700546459601738May 16 03:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Muktware - Google+ .::. Size~: 295.37 KBMay 16 03:10
schestowitz> https://plus.google.com/u/0/104354108367295104608/postsMay 16 03:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Muktware - Google+ .::. Size~: 380.81 KBMay 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> That's how free software advocacy on G+ should be done.  May 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> May 16 03:10
schestowitz> /*********** remaining criticism ***************May 16 03:10
schestowitz> G'Kar • 15 hours ago −May 16 03:10
schestowitz> Oh, please, Mr. Schmitz! You're the one embarassing yourself here. If one May 16 03:10
schestowitz> reads your exchange with Mr. Scherschel top to bottom, then a certain pattern May 16 03:10
schestowitz> becomes clear. Your first answer to Mr. Scherschel is NOT an attempt to start a May 16 03:11
schestowitz> serious discussion in any way. In it you merely argue semantics and belittle May 16 03:11
schestowitz> him. And take this gem of yours:May 16 03:11
schestowitz> May 16 03:11
schestowitz> "I hope you didn't hurt yourself when your knee hit your chiny chin chin. ;)"May 16 03:11
schestowitz> May 16 03:11
schestowitz> That's a reasonable mode of discussion? Oh, sure, you added an emoticon. That May 16 03:11
schestowitz> makes it all better.May 16 03:11
schestowitz> May 16 03:11
schestowitz> As I see it, not one of your comments added anything of substance. You just May 16 03:11
schestowitz> threw at Mr. Scherschel meaningless one-liners. And then you are a) surprised May 16 03:11
schestowitz> that he blows a fuse and b) pissed that he doesn't conduct himself properly, May 16 03:11
schestowitz> even though YOU basically did everything possible to make this happen? It's a May 16 03:11
schestowitz> good example of hypocrisy that you hide behind someone (supposedly) being May 16 03:11
schestowitz> impolite instead of bringing forth counter-arguments which have some merit WRT May 16 03:11
schestowitz> to the issue being actually discussed.May 16 03:11
schestowitz> ********** end accurate synopsis *************/May 16 03:11
schestowitz> May 16 03:11
schestowitz> May 16 03:11
schestowitz> On Wednesday, April 17, 2013, Roy Schestowitz wrote:May 16 03:11
schestowitz>> http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/04/of-trolls-individual-accountability-aMay 16 03:11
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schestowitz>> nd.html#comment-formMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>>May 16 03:11
schestowitz>> Mr. Dietrich Schmitz. You sleep in the bed you make. I never heard ofMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> you before a site called "Linux Advocates" was launched. In it, afterMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> you had invited me to contribute, I saw you run provocative (one mightMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> say trollish) pieces that slam Linux stuff -- a site run by theMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> obscure - IMO - self-professed advocate whom I never heard of. -- oneMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> who bans Linux advocates (at least 5 so far). Pogson, Hill, Swapnil,May 16 03:11
schestowitz>> Fab...May 16 03:11
schestowitz>>May 16 03:11
schestowitz>> Some of your posts have been nothing but personal attacks on LinuxMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> advocates.May 16 03:11
schestowitz>>May 16 03:11
schestowitz>> Congratulations on creating a site called Linux Advocates -- a siteMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> whose main function is to invite Linux advocates and then gag orMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> ridicule them. If you delete this comment -- as you often do (yourMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> censorship has earned you bad reputation in private communication), IMay 16 03:11
schestowitz>> will 'Streisand Effect' it.May 16 03:11
schestowitz>>May 16 03:11
schestowitz>> Censorship in a site called Linux Advocates shows either extremeMay 16 03:12
schestowitz>> insecurity or a well-calculated attempt to vilify Linux advocates.May 16 03:12
schestowitz>>May 16 03:12
schestowitz>> Good luck with the site. Based on what I saw behind the scenes, youMay 16 03:12
schestowitz>> are left alone. You sleep in the bed you make.May 16 03:12
qu1j0t3eikonos: HMMMMMay 16 03:15
qu1j0t3 | @ElizabethMay       Andrew Coyne's column on why Mike Duffy should resign:  May 16 03:16
qu1j0t3 |  retweeted by       Brilliant writing and analysis. #cdnpoli                May 16 03:16
qu1j0t3 |  @MuskokaMoneybag   http://t.co/yk5n7iMii4                                  May 16 03:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: The only right thing left for Mike Duffy to do now is resign | Full Comment | National Post .::. Size~: 70.52 KBMay 16 03:16
qu1j0t3 | ........................................  http://ur1.ca/dvhzc               May 16 03:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / ElizabethMay: Andrew Coyne's column on why ... .::. Size~: 92.69 KBMay 16 03:16
qu1j0t3eikonos: i might have to swallow my bile like schestowitz had to do to read LanierMay 16 03:16
schestowitzMessage #5 (last one):May 16 03:16
schestowitz> -------- Original Message --------May 16 03:16
schestowitz> Subject: Re: A comment he'll probably delete...May 16 03:16
schestowitz> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:46:05 +0100May 16 03:16
schestowitz> From: Roy Schestowitz <r@schestowitz.com>May 16 03:16
schestowitz> Reply-To: s@schestowitz.comMay 16 03:16
schestowitz> Organisation: SchestowitzMay 16 03:16
schestowitz> To: Fabian A. Scherschel <fab@sixgun.org>May 16 03:16
schestowitz> Scherschel <fab@h-online.com>May 16 03:16
schestowitz> May 16 03:16
schestowitz>> Thanks for the fair comments, Roy. We may not always see eye toMay 16 03:16
schestowitz>> eye (all of us), but I am glad we all know better than acting like May 16 03:16
schestowitz>> that. :)May 16 03:16
schestowitz> May 16 03:17
schestowitz>> FabMay 16 03:17
schestowitz> May 16 03:17
schestowitz> He has just deleted my comment. This guy, Dietrich, is no better thanMay 16 03:17
schestowitz> 'FOSS' Patents, also using the same platform in which to suppressMay 16 03:17
schestowitz> comments and attack Linux entities while pretending to be pro-Linux.May 16 03:17
schestowitz> May 16 03:17
schestowitz> I suggest we occasionally warn people about this site which bannedMay 16 03:17
schestowitz> every single Linux advocate which was in it.May 16 03:17
schestowitz> May 16 03:17
schestowitz> Will tested him by asking what his goals were. Ask Will what DietrichMay 16 03:17
schestowitz> said in response. It's very telling.May 16 03:17
schestowitz> May 16 03:17
schestowitz> Florian #2.May 16 03:17
qu1j0t3 | @EverettColdwell    Elections Canada budget gets cut 8% during robo-call   May 16 03:34
qu1j0t3 |                     investigation http://t.co/Xk87OAKHjG #cdnpoli          May 16 03:34
qu1j0t3 | ........................................  http://ur1.ca/dviii              May 16 03:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: Robo-Call: Elections Canada budget gets cut during investigation  : The Canadian National Newspaper .::. Size~: 74.74 KBMay 16 03:34
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qu1j0t3Ah Harper. Such a B-movie villian.May 16 03:34
qu1j0t3and fuckhead.May 16 03:34
qu1j0t3villain*May 16 03:34
schestowitzwas his predecessor any better?May 16 03:35
qu1j0t3are you kidding?May 16 03:36
qu1j0t3Harper is an unprecedented nightmare for Canada.May 16 03:36
qu1j0t3unprecedented.May 16 03:36
qu1j0t3think Thatcher. but perhaps worse.May 16 03:36
eikonosyeah, like thatcher, minus the conscienceMay 16 03:44
eikonosoh wait, thatcher didn't have oneMay 16 03:44
qu1j0t3hahaMay 16 03:45
schestowitzshe privatised and sold it with RaeganMay 16 03:45
qu1j0t3they are both in the same bagMay 16 03:45
eikonosLOLMay 16 03:45
qu1j0t3eikonos: did you read about the Brit councillor who said disabled children should be killed at birth?May 16 03:46
eikonoswhaa?May 16 03:46
qu1j0t3the funny thing is.. he's off work due to a series of strokes; Quora commenters said "why wasn't he put down already"May 16 03:46
eikonosyou can't make this stuff up...May 16 03:46
qu1j0t3right.May 16 03:46
qu1j0t3nobody would believe you.May 16 03:47
qu1j0t3 | @thekeenanwire      Man, Mike Duffy's story just keeps getting stranger. Guy has      May 16 03:51
qu1j0t3 |  retweeted by       the chops to be mayor of Toronto one day.                         May 16 03:51
qu1j0t3 |  @PialiRoy                                                                            May 16 03:51
qu1j0t3 | ........................................  http://ur1.ca/dvixq                         May 16 03:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / thekeenanwire: Man, Mike Duffy's story just ... .::. Size~: 91.49 KBMay 16 03:51
eikonoshahahahaMay 16 03:52
eikonosdid you see the replies about car magnets?May 16 03:52
qu1j0t3noMay 16 03:54
qu1j0t3I saw the body type zinger.May 16 03:54
qu1j0t3i've been resisting stooping that, uh, low.May 16 03:54
eikonoshow did duffy get in the senate anyway? did they hold a pie eating contest?May 16 03:55
qu1j0t3OUCHMay 16 03:56
qu1j0t3well,May 16 03:56
qu1j0t3that has been explored May 16 03:56
qu1j0t3in Globe and Mail columns.May 16 03:56
qu1j0t3if you're interested.May 16 03:56
qu1j0t3exactly like Rob Ford, he became a populist-media-heroMay 16 03:56
qu1j0t3a down-home ole boyMay 16 03:56
qu1j0t3which makes the residency thing really funnyMay 16 03:56
qu1j0t3his reaction to the breaking scandal was beyond pathetic.May 16 03:57
qu1j0t3It's kind of like Jimmy Savile saying "Oh, but we were only playing doctors and nurses."May 16 03:57
eikonosouchMay 16 03:57
qu1j0t3it was on that level.May 16 03:57
eikonosyeahMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3it was astoundingly patronising to his constituency.May 16 03:58
qu1j0t3i could dig it upMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3i read it in a G&M column summarising his career.May 16 03:58
qu1j0t3anywayMay 16 03:58
eikonosi believe itMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3his career is a classic trajectoryMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3get knownMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3get famousMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3get electedMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3get richMay 16 03:58
qu1j0t3get crookedMay 16 03:58
eikonosnot sure he was ever elected… was he?May 16 03:58
qu1j0t3it's the most banal career EVER.May 16 03:59
schestowitz"I will give you that, at least BoycottNovell was more honest in regards to what type of site it was. Linux Advocates is a real shame considering the name of the site."May 16 03:59
schestowitz[03:46] <qu1j0t3> eikonos: did you read about the Brit councillor who said disabled children should be killed at birth?May 16 03:59
schestowitzDepends what he defines as disabledMay 16 04:00
schestowitzTHere are some very rare abnormalities that lead to death during pregnancy (abortion)May 16 04:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: let's say he probably hasn't heard of those.May 16 04:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i can get you the citation if you like :)May 16 04:00
schestowitzsyndromes that cause radical anatomical deformations, the parents themselves would be shocked by itMay 16 04:00
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/Symbo1ics/status/334865849657745408 eikonos May 16 04:01
TechrightsSocial@Symbo1ics: Mike Duffy's only following the oldest career trajectory known to man: get known, get famous, get elected, get rich, get crooked, get bustedMay 16 04:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: sure. but that's not relevant to himMay 16 04:01
schestowitzeveryone is a little "disabled" by someone's criteriaMay 16 04:01
qu1j0t3eikonos: shit! https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/334866160778608641May 16 04:01
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Mike Duffy's only following the oldest career trajectory known to man: get known, get famous, get elected, get rich, get crooked, get bustedMay 16 04:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: that's more relevant :)May 16 04:01
schestowitzit can mean "not average"May 16 04:01
schestowitzLesser capable of hearing, seeing (astigmatic), very tall...May 16 04:02
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you're going off topic!May 16 04:03
qu1j0t3schestowitz: but yesMay 16 04:03
qu1j0t3schestowitz: that's kind of the point, when deciding which babies to kill.May 16 04:03
schestowitznot just blind or deafMay 16 04:03
qu1j0t3YOU MIGHT KILL THE NEXT THATCHER!May 16 04:03
schestowitzsome people become diabled during life, maybe in wartimeMay 16 04:03
schestowitzqu1j0t3: China does it and we do it too, but criteria varyMay 16 04:04
schestowitzin china it can be based on genderMay 16 04:04
qu1j0t3schestowitz: he mentions chinaMay 16 04:04
schestowitzSome Chinese policies are good, many are badMay 16 04:04
schestowitzChina has unique problems that we don't have, its situation is inherently differentMay 16 04:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: he thinks Britain should have a 1-child policyMay 16 04:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: at least, for poor people, obvMay 16 04:06
qu1j0t3schestowitz: rich wouldn't be subject to itMay 16 04:06
schestowitzChina has a 1-house policy too, I heard...May 16 04:06
qu1j0t3AHHHAHAAMay 16 04:06
qu1j0t3Mike Duffy would be in troubleMay 16 04:06
schestowitzbut you can buy a house overseas, assign it to your babyMay 16 04:06
qu1j0t3sighMay 16 04:07
schestowitzone-child policy would be OK. I think that if you just penalise for a second then you make get-out clauses for the rich.May 16 04:07
schestowitzMany in Western Europe already have an average of 1.1-1.5 children per couple anywayMay 16 04:07
schestowitzGrowth comes from immigrationMay 16 04:08
schestowitzMy wife and I are not sure if we want children at all, it's a low form of "achievement"May 16 04:08
schestowitzhttp://lxer.com/module/forums/t/34620/May 16 04:12
TechrightsSocialTitle: LXer: Ugh,... This could mean the end of Ubuntu...: Ubuntu Strikes Out on Its Own Again .::. Size~: 15.15 KBMay 16 04:12
schestowitz"Ugh,... This could mean the end of Ubuntu... If they deviate from Debian package management, it will certainly fragment the user base... I for one would not endorse it. I would embrace alien style apps to convert Ubuntu packages to debian before I would switch..."May 16 04:12
schestowitz"Sometimes I wish the people at Canonical would just say what they mean. There is nothing stopping people from building .deb packages with no dependencies. What this is really about is to create a way to make extremely simple self contained 'apps' for Ubuntu mobile devices, like apps for iOS and Android. For any other goal this would be extremely unnecessary and a complete waste of time. As it is, I can't help but wonder if May 16 04:13
schestowitzthis is the best way to do it. There might be a way that they could incorporate what they need into the current package management system."May 16 04:13
schestowitz"I would agree with JaseP while waving goodbye to Ubuntu. "May 16 04:13
schestowitz"I waved goodbye to Ubuntu when 12.04 came out with Unity. I'm still running 10.04 on my laptop, but expect to be replacing it with Debian when I have time (since 10.04 is no longer supported),"May 16 04:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: I've always been sympathetic to the 1-child policyMay 16 04:13
schestowitz"I don't think Ubuntu is going away. Canonical is increasingly successful at getting Ubuntu preloaded on systems and that is the direction the company/distro is going. However, Ubuntu will be much less popular in the Linux community."May 16 04:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: that might make me a Nazi in some eyesMay 16 04:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: to me it's just frugalityMay 16 04:13
schestowitz"I had to do a double take after I read this. I thought this would be something typical of what Dietrich would write...but Katherine? What two have now done will make the whole Linux Community look even worse."May 16 04:14
qu1j0t3http://t.co/vQGl8XgXbKMay 16 04:14
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: it's not a Nazi policyMay 16 04:15
schestowitzand it's becoming less controversial over time; it's nothing to do with  immigration, for instance, so no race distriminationMay 16 04:15
schestowitzand if properly implemented, no class discrimination eitherMay 16 04:15
schestowitzThough I bet the rich will find some loopholes, just like they make tax havensMay 16 04:16
schestowitzMaybe 1 child from each mistress or somethingMay 16 04:16
schestowitzLOL how about obligatory irreversible vasectomy after your first child is born?May 16 04:17
schestowitzsome wan to neuter convicted rapistsMay 16 04:17
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there is no way the rich would submit to itMay 16 04:33
qu1j0t3i am sure in china they never did either.May 16 04:33
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schestowitzhttp://www.jonobacon.org/2013/05/16/on-brainstorm/ May 16 08:48
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schestowitzrevsiionismMay 16 08:48
schestowitzalso, can canonicla blame form community for no longer bothering to contribute?May 16 08:48
schestowitz"May 16 13:11
schestowitzschestowitz, you are indeed not alone. The other day I wrote a response to Dietrich on his systemd article. My comment was trully well intentioned, although admittedly my words were of criticism (constructive). He not only deleted my comment, but also banned me from commenting on his site. Said deletion prevents me from retreiving my comment for your review...but it trully was not agressive at all.May 16 13:11
schestowitzI went back to see if this was a common trend. Well, in one of the earlier articles he deleted a comment from a different person (Package manager article). What is interesting about this case is that I actually challenged ideas in the deleted post. My argument which was more aligned with the opinion of LA was _not_ deleted. And honestly, the comment deleted hardly merited to be so under any standard.May 16 13:11
schestowitzFor these reasons, I find this latest article to be comically ironic at best...and honestly disturbing. Dietrich's other article on "censorship [being a] symptom" is also starting to raise some flags on how trustworthy LA (and by extension the author) is. Without attributing more seriousness than the situation merits, allow me to vent some of the frustration by presenting a disturbingly similar analogy. The personality in May 16 13:11
schestowitzquestion seems to me equally capricious as the current president of my original country (Argentina), who refuses to acknowledge all opposing views and faults of their own. Actively censoring opinions, presenting ridiculous excuses for any questionable offenses, and overblowing retaliations (e.g., censorship as a symptom). Such an oppressive personality has absolutely no place providing _ME_ any news. Being the internet a freeMay 16 13:11
schestowitzplace (sort of), my only recourse is to actively ignore and warn people to stay away from DA. Despite my hilighting of the word "me" to emphasize this as an opinion, I believe the site has no place providing _ANYONE_ with news.May 16 13:11
schestowitzI don't know how LXer operates in this regards, but were it to a vote, I would definitely try to rid the site of all LA contributions. They don't do journalism...all they provide is a platform for discussion which is, clearly, broken by oppresion. LXer is also meant to post opinion pieces, but obviously the bar should be placed somewhere. I think LA is underwhelmingly not up to the standard that open source stands for.May 16 13:11
schestowitzPlease forgive the rant nature of this post...I am trully astonished and frustrated.May 16 13:11
schestowitz"May 16 13:11
schestowitz"May 16 13:12
schestowitzIn this article "Confused by FUSE" on "linuxadvocates.com" The author Dietrich quoted a bad source to make point. Was told of this mistake, stuck with with it anyway and then when off on a totally irreverent comment path. He later corrected the article. This type of journalism blogging is not good for our community. Andrew Wyatt was the lead for Fuduntu. This guy had to go to one of the website sponsors to get some resolutionMay 16 13:12
schestowitz I have no idea if the article correction was because of that, but it sad it had to go there.May 16 13:12
schestowitzWhen your opinion is factually wrong or you base your entire article on wrong info and get called on it, you either make a correction or suffer the wrath of your own arrogance. Your readership will continue to mention this arrogance when you continue to support or work with a writer that is guilty of this. Call them trolls if you want, but whats the worst troll? The "knowledgeable" writer or the "average" reader. Its really May 16 13:12
schestowitzthat simple.May 16 13:12
schestowitzAll of this started because of his link bait opinion on a new distro called Fuse. (name has been changed to Cloverleaf Linux) Please don’t spread hate or FUD on re-spins Re-spins are important to the community. The majority of them help in Linux adoption by filling a niche or getting over a certain issues. Debian, Fedora, or Arch are the most popular parents of re-spins but can be hassle for some. Whether it be desktop May 16 13:12
schestowitzenvironment, installation headaches, or the FOSS religious aspect, re-spins bypass all that and make using Linux easier. If you been using Linux for a while, than your opinion on a respin irrelevant. Its not made for you. Move on!! Adoption no matter what distro, in my eyes should be always be the goal.May 16 13:12
schestowitz*link bait = spreading factually wrong info disguised as opinion to get clicks to a web site.*May 16 13:12
schestowitz"May 16 13:12
schestowitz"Maybe the site should rename itself. Something like linuxprosecutors.com would be more accurate."May 16 13:12
schestowitz"In this article Katherine Noyes fails to see that Linux Advocates is quickly becoming the tabloid section of the Linux press. Don't blame your readers!"May 16 13:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2593498May 16 13:18
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Little Black Box #OpenSource #XBMC Media Centre Unveiled (video) http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/the-little-black-box-open-source-xbmc-media-centre-unveiled-video-29-04-2013/May 16 13:18
schestowitz"funny thing, root access?"May 16 13:18
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,May 16 13:21
schestowitz> May 16 13:21
schestowitz> I've made another key for the account boycottn.  It's a single-purposeMay 16 13:21
schestowitz> key that automatically executes a script that automatically restarts theMay 16 13:21
schestowitz> techrights IRC bot.  It cannot do anything else.  The private key isMay 16 13:21
schestowitz> attached.May 16 13:21
schestowitz> May 16 13:21
schestowitz> Due to a quirk (or design) in how private keys are read, the front endMay 16 13:21
schestowitz> of it can be a script.  I've made a script there to log in.  So if youMay 16 13:21
schestowitz> 'chmod 0500' the private key, you can then execute it as a script and itMay 16 13:21
schestowitz> will automatically restart the bot for you.May 16 13:22
schestowitz> May 16 13:22
schestowitz> This potentially saves several steps.May 16 13:22
schestowitzIn exactly 2 weeks the bot TRIdentica will no longer be compatible with Ident.ca, which is switching platforms. TRT has not worked for years due to OAuth. So I might need to replace that with a bot Toby wrote, then syndicate from Twitter. I fear this will suck until I find the right people to follow. May 16 13:22
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,May 16 13:22
schestowitz> May 16 13:22
schestowitz> This is from IRC at about noon UTCMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> May 16 13:22
schestowitz> pentagoMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> 2:58 hi, i;m interested in advertising on techrights.org, what areMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> chances of that?May 16 13:22
schestowitz> pentagoMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> 2:59 ping iophk MinceRMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> MinceRMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> 3:00 i'm not in charge of the website, ask schestowitzMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> TRIdenticaMay 16 13:22
schestowitz> ...May 16 13:22
schestowitz> pentagoMay 16 13:23
schestowitz> 3:02 schestowitz: pingMay 16 13:23
schestowitzWe don't do advertising. It only helps discredit the site.May 16 13:23
schestowitz>> We don't do advertising. It only helps discredit the site.May 16 13:46
schestowitz> May 16 13:46
schestowitz> Ok.  Sounds good.May 16 13:46
schestowitzIt's pennies for nothing in return. I no longer need that, I recently got a 33% pay rise. What I want is for stuff I spend hours writing to have maximal impact (without pushing it into sites like Dietrich or FLorian) - ads can spoil one's reputation through the profit motive.May 16 13:46
schestowitz> Hi man,May 16 13:59
schestowitz> May 16 13:59
schestowitz> We talked earlier on techrights.org <http://techrights.org/> IRC channelMay 16 13:59
TechrightsSocialTitle: Nothing found for  > .::. Size~: 52.28 KBMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> regarding advertising opportunity there or some other relevant place youMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> might suggest (perhaps your own site if you agree).May 16 13:59
schestowitz> May 16 13:59
schestowitz> I'm marketing consultant for Macquarie TelecomMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> <http://www.macquarietelecom.com/> and they provide secure hosting andMay 16 13:59
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.32 KBMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> access services to government and businesses so they target techy placesMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> to get some additional exposure on.May 16 13:59
schestowitz> May 16 13:59
schestowitz> As you suggested, i might have a piece you could use. it's a DebianMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> tutorial on how to set up Postfix and OpenDKIM to sign outgoing messagesMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> in order to get accepted by GMail, Hotmail and similar large serviceMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> providers. May 16 13:59
schestowitz> May 16 13:59
schestowitz> Basically, mail authentication process which include userspaceMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> applications setup and DNS management afterwards.It's really wellMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> written, concise and works as expected, tested on my private VPS (i'mMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> avid linux/bsd abuser).May 16 13:59
schestowitz> May 16 13:59
schestowitz> I would include 1 link/banner to my company including couple ofMay 16 13:59
schestowitz> relevant/related links to software vendors such as Debian, Postfix,May 16 13:59
schestowitz> Cloudflare etc.. to give readers additional value optionally.May 16 13:59
schestowitz> May 16 13:59
schestowitz> Basically, anything you suggest could work as long as link appears inMay 16 14:00
schestowitz> some form.May 16 14:00
schestowitz> May 16 14:00
schestowitz> Let me know your thoughts on how do we proceed and what are your conditions.May 16 14:00
schestowitzWhat kind of budget does the company have for such an advert?May 16 14:00
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schestowitz> not sure, nothing was specified, usually when it comes to buyingMay 16 14:43
schestowitz> guestposts on relevant sites there are fees ranging from say a 50-200+$May 16 14:44
schestowitz> depending on quality. Would it work for you?May 16 14:44
schestowitzWe don't do promotion guestposts, but if you want ad placement in all pages (at sidebar/footer) for something like 50-200+$, then it's possible.May 16 14:44
schestowitz> Cool, can you tell me where that ad would appear exactly so i can passMay 16 14:49
schestowitz> it to the client?May 16 14:49
schestowitzA place of your choice on the right-hand sidebar/s. For blog posts, that is... almost 17,000 blog posts (i.e. pages)May 16 14:49
schestowitz> ok, sent the offer to the guy in charge, will have the answer tomorrow.May 16 15:18
schestowitz> I reckon it'll be a small linked banner with appropriate ALT.May 16 15:18
schestowitzYes, as soon as they pay for the ad.May 16 15:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/micharism/statuses/334978687420231680May 16 15:21
TechrightsSocial@micharism: http://t.co/uNyQzOiw72May 16 15:21
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schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/FuykV1Y9fMsMay 16 16:02
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schestowitz"The things mentioned in the article were mainly stuff baited out of the people invited to comment.  I expressed disappointment in Katheryn for writing a piece about taking the gnu out of gnu/linux, despite knowing about best practices from Debian.  Nothing I said was really offensive, but we can't see that now.  With the censorship of that comment, previous and further unprofessional behavior from the editors, I decided the May 16 16:02
schestowitzcommunity was not worth my time.  I took the time to ask what was going on, but received no satisfactory answer.  Here they are trolling me and the others mentioned again.  "May 16 16:02
schestowitz"I'd like to ignore this, but can't.  +Katherine Noyes is a journalist sitting in a big publisher bully pulpit.  I'm reasonably outraged she would say these things about me and fellow free software advocates.  These are not just words on a computer screen, with some big publisher action they are the first words people will find about myself and the others attacked.  "May 16 16:03
schestowitz"May 16 16:03
schestowitzF%$ new G+, I have just lost a long post!!!! X-(May 16 16:03
schestowitzI WAS SAYING:  She (Katherine) is a good person. I really think she just took it the wrong way because, being close do Dietrich and co-founding that community, she felt like standing up for him.May 16 16:03
schestowitzBut let's do what they didn't: forget it! I think both you, +Will Hill, and +Andrew Wyatt are bigger than that. And new posts and communities are always showing your true colors: FLOSS all the way!May 16 16:03
schestowitz"May 16 16:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2624760May 16 16:03
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux 'Advocates' site increasingly unpopular in LXer http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/34616/ http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/34626/May 16 16:03
TechrightsSocial-> Title: LXer: This article is pure FUD: Systemd: Got Choice? .::. Size~: 35.66 KBMay 16 16:03
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schestowitz'Ah. This is probably what sAh. This is probably what she was responding to.he was responding to."May 16 16:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2495690May 16 16:04
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What is going on for Kali Linux (Full Version)?  http://samiux.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/what-is-going-on-for-kali-linux-full.html #kalilinux #gnu #linuxMay 16 16:04
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schestowitz"why the hell would someone bother rebuilding kali from scratch to have kde ? it's a live distro , built for a specific task . what does it matter which desktop it has , is the guy gonna watch movies on kali ? when I think about it , I might . This moment I will file a bug cus I can't install VLC player on kali ...."May 16 16:04
qu1j0t3...May 16 16:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2624809May 16 16:05
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 8 Reasons Why Ubuntu Users Should Try Out Linux Mint http://www.junauza.com/2013/05/8-reasons-why-ubuntu-users-should-try-linux-mint.html anything #ubuntu has but betterMay 16 16:05
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schestowitz"Do they have Unity as well? :)"May 16 16:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2605133May 16 16:16
TechrightsSocial@vladze@diasp.org: #Arab's #AggressionMay 16 16:16
TechrightsSocial  Photo by vladze@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ccb119aec05302c11d92.jpgMay 16 16:16
schestowitz"http://youtu.be/sAfENxzv2mc Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: "Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis" Al-Hekma TV (Egypt)"May 16 16:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: Hamas Interior Minister Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip: We are Egyptians! - YouTube .::. Size~: 127.38 KBMay 16 16:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2618384May 16 18:54
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A little look at Debian 7.0 http://technologytales.com/2013/05/12/a-little-look-at-debian-7-0/ #debian #gnu #linux used by #lego http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Debian__the_Linux_distribution_of_choice_for_LEGO_designers_.htmlMay 16 18:54
schestowitz"I didn't like the looks of not seeing "user mangement" in the Kde. What happened to it? did I install it wrong? I would like to have another user added to it."May 16 18:54
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schestowitz[19:06] <tessier> lnooden has filled up /tmp on your serverMay 16 19:12
schestowitz[19:06] <schestowitz> oh..May 16 19:12
schestowitz[19:07] <tessier> Not sure what he's filled it with. Looks like some weird combination of various log files.May 16 19:12
schestowitz[19:08] <tessier> All in one file called xMay 16 19:12
schestowitz[19:08] <schestowitz> I'll try to find what process created itMay 16 19:12
XFaCEqu1j0t3: http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2013/05/14/new-app-lets-you-boycott-koch-brothers-monsanto-and-more-by-scanning-your-shopping-cart/May 16 19:21
TechrightsSocialTitle: New App Lets You Boycott Koch Brothers, Monsanto And More By Scanning Your Shopping Cart - Forbes .::. Size~: 108.48 KBMay 16 19:21
XFaCEhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/05/15/the-feds-are-cracking-down-on-mt-gox-not-on-bitcoin/May 16 19:21
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Feds Are Cracking Down On Mt. Gox (Not On Bitcoin) - Forbes .::. Size~: 74.34 KBMay 16 19:21
schestowitz> It seems we have little space on /tmp/May 16 19:26
schestowitz> May 16 19:26
schestowitz> I killed the process in question and cleared /tmp/x where I wasMay 16 19:26
schestowitz> grepping for which file pupped/nagios has sudoersMay 16 19:26
schestowitzThat's OK, as long as we don't drain crucial partitions like the one with root or the database.May 16 19:26
schestowitz> Is it ok?  I hope. The web server is still serving the recent pages.May 16 19:26
schestowitzFor a short period after the fix requests were timing out... many requests today from sites linking to the article about Spencer, which Ubuntu PR (Jono) responded to as well.May 16 19:26
schestowitz"May 16 19:28
schestowitz> I am glad my experience with Lxer policy has been to allow users decide what and what not to read/post within limited screening.May 16 19:28
schestowitzAbsolutely. That's what the discussion area is for, to let people exchange their views on which articles are worthwhile and which one aren't.May 16 19:28
schestowitz"May 16 19:28
schestowitz> I tried grepping for sudoers but made a mess.  I'd like to help but notMay 16 19:39
schestowitz> sure my efforts are a net gain for the site.May 16 19:39
schestowitzThey are. Availability has been good since the scripts were set in place.May 16 19:39
schestowitz May 16 19:39
schestowitz> Back on topic, was Jono's response useful or was it his usual dismissalMay 16 19:39
schestowitz> through name calling?May 16 19:39
schestowitzI posted a reply calling for substance, he failed to address actual content; it's like the response to RMS. At least he was careful not to mock me like he did RMS before he apologised.May 16 19:39
schestowitz>> They are. Availability has been good since the scripts were set in place.May 16 19:52
schestowitz> May 16 19:52
schestowitz> Thanks.  And sorry for today's close call.  I was looking for the fileMay 16 19:52
schestowitz> that sudoers was getting restored from.  Maybe Tracy would know how toMay 16 19:52
schestowitz> make a change stick in sudoers.  The reason for asking is to so that theMay 16 19:52
schestowitz> locked-down key can be launch the bot restarting script.  But if the botMay 16 19:52
schestowitz> is going to be swapped out for another one, then maybe that's not worthMay 16 19:52
schestowitz> the time right now.May 16 19:52
schestowitz>> I posted a reply calling for substance, he failed to address actualMay 16 19:54
schestowitz>> content; it's like the response to RMS. At least he was careful not toMay 16 19:54
schestowitz>> mock me like he did RMS before he apologised.May 16 19:54
schestowitz> May 16 19:54
schestowitz> Based on his past responses, I suspect he may not have any substance toMay 16 19:54
schestowitz> respond with.  It would be good though if he did have something materialMay 16 19:54
schestowitz> or else conceded the point.  It would be major if he conceded the point.May 16 19:54
schestowitzIt it Jono's boss who is criticised. Jono is showing his loyalty there and in the process he is licking Microsoft's boot, which I actually find a little pathetic and counter-productive for him (his credibility).May 16 19:54
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eikonoshttp://twitter.com/stats_canada/status/335128004864917504May 16 21:22
TechrightsSocial@stats_canada: 91% of Ontarians believe that the LCBO should be considered an essential serviceMay 16 21:22
qu1j0t3LOLMay 16 21:23
qu1j0t3there's an argument for thatMay 16 21:23
qu1j0t3it's the flipside of the monopolyMay 16 21:23
eikonosyou don't have Cold Beer & Wine stores?May 16 21:23
qu1j0t3we do but i don't know if they are lcbo branches or notMay 16 21:23
eikonosno, privateMay 16 21:23
eikonospretty sureMay 16 21:24
qu1j0t3well, i don't know about thatMay 16 21:24
eikonosthe ones with the orange signs?May 16 21:24
qu1j0t3i know there is an article on the Star describing where to get booze ifthe lcbo strikesMay 16 21:24
qu1j0t3it seems all very complicatedMay 16 21:24
qu1j0t3i'll just stock the heck upMay 16 21:24
eikonosalso don't forget to get ammo in case someone comes for your stash! :PMay 16 21:25
eikonosoh wait, you're not in the gunited statesMay 16 21:25
qu1j0t3not gunna go there eitherMay 16 21:28
qu1j0t3the only ammo i need gets fired on TWITTERMay 16 21:28
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