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XFaCEqu1j0t3: "#PMHarperMustResign" is a twitter trendMay 21 03:46
XFaCEwootMay 21 03:46
XFaCEqu1j0t3: good jobMay 21 03:46
qu1j0t3i didn't start itMay 21 03:50
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schestowitzMail subscription would have been a nice thing, but I might get scatterback spam from it and it defies progress of RSS. Nevertheless, I looked at several plugins, but found none I find suitable, e.g. http://wordpress.org/plugins/search.php?page=2&q=email+subscribe&sort=top-ratedMay 21 09:11
schestowitzAfter failing to find something that might work well I went to Pogson's site and saw that he had apparently removed this option from his site.May 21 09:11
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101032863 http://identi.ca/notice/101032864May 21 09:16
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 07:45:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that's like saying: Diamond vs Turd: Which is better overall? The former doesn't smell so bad, looks better & will get you ..May 21 09:16
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 07:45:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz .. girlsMay 21 09:16
schestowitz> It's still there.  I get messages with the URL when he writes new posts.May 21 09:30
schestowitz> May 21 09:30
schestowitz> The subscription is attached to posting a comment.  If you post aMay 21 09:30
schestowitz> comment, one of the options (there are two but I can't remember them)May 21 09:30
schestowitz> allows you to get e-mail.  I like it a lot because it saves me time andMay 21 09:30
schestowitz> keeps me up to date on what's new.May 21 09:30
schestowitzTechrights lets you track updates on posts you comment on. Is that not enough. WOuld many people want ~6 updates by email per day?May 21 09:30
schestowitz> Yes, I've seen that check box to get notified of replies to comments.May 21 09:52
schestowitz> May 21 09:52
schestowitz> About the regular posts, maybe it's only me that would like e-mailMay 21 09:52
schestowitz> notification.  I know the links are usually posted to IRC, but I'd likeMay 21 09:52
schestowitz> not to be dependent on IRC.May 21 09:52
schestowitzHTTP and RSS (XML) work for most. The front page (wiki) has a list of latest posts, too.May 21 09:52
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MinceRhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/d6049176ce773aabebca513076168d3b/tumblr_mn14yrulPI1qdlh1io1_400.gifMay 21 13:05
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: Salon has this weird sidebar which seems to feature stories with a right wing slant. I assume it's advertising of some sort. Reminds me of how slashdot runs/ran Microsoft adsMay 21 15:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yet it's captioned with their headline style.... HmmmmmmmmmMay 21 15:00
qu1j0t3s/captioned/headed/May 21 15:00
schestowitz"#LinkedIn has given me nothing but #spam and it is getting worse and worse as #surveillance tool. Maybe time to delete the account?"May 21 17:12
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/101034513May 21 17:12
TechrightsSocial@Kete Foy (kete)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 11:17:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @dubfish @schestowitz I quit using mine.May 21 17:12
schestowitzDeleting and not using are not the same thingMay 21 17:12
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/101034974May 21 17:13
TechrightsSocial@james h jackson jr (jameshjacksonjr)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 12:12:11 UTC - Identi.ca: You want expensive iphone is way more expensive and jolla phone is more valueMay 21 17:13
schestowitztrueMay 21 17:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/101035720May 21 17:13
TechrightsSocial@Patrick Vossen (pdvossen)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 13:41:52 UTC - Identi.ca: Adobe Flash is still necessary for so many things, but using an outdated flash most the time with both my Linux Computers is frustrating.May 21 17:13
schestowitzwhich is why it's better if Trash never existed at allMay 21 17:13
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/101035736May 21 17:13
TechrightsSocial@Patrick Vossen (pdvossen)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 13:43:28 UTC - Identi.ca: The tornadoes were massive.May 21 17:13
schestowitzClimate is changingMay 21 17:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Kallisti/status/336502643507724289May 21 17:14
TechrightsSocial@Kallisti: @schestowitz Waitwut? I missed the memo. What's going on now?May 21 17:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PGPBOARD/status/336434824309010433May 21 17:14
TechrightsSocial@PGPBOARD: @schestowitz #assange is a fugitive, jumped bail in Uk in order to avoid deportation to Sweden where is wanted for alleged sex crimes...May 21 17:14
schestowitz fugitive from the US, like Fischer. The 'crime' is not being pro-US.May 21 17:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ircolle/status/336245141390098432May 21 17:15
TechrightsSocial@ircolle: @MarkHPC - limited set up, but still interesting “@schestowitz: #Btrfs vs. #EXT4 vs. #XFS vs. #F2FS On #Linux 3.10 http://t.co/pPLZvm0lip”May 21 17:15
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightspeedKEN/status/335936456180785153May 21 17:15
TechrightsSocial@lightspeedKEN: @schestowitz Updated your plugins recently? Should work out your issues. Here's the place to refresh http://t.co/Zqxsp4jzPj #fxhelpMay 21 17:15
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schestowitzmailbox:///home/roy/.thunderbird/rtx2dxi3.default/Mail/mail.schestowitz-4.com/LinkedIn?number=10955300+May 21 18:06
schestowitzmailbox:///home/roy/.thunderbird/rtx2dxi3.default/Mail/mail.schestowitz-4.com/LinkedIn?number=10955300May 21 18:06
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101037132May 21 18:07
TechrightsSocial@laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 16:18:29 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz mainstream media doesn't *do* journalism anymore #selfinterest #watchdogpressisdeadMay 21 18:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101037181http://identi.ca/notice/101037182May 21 18:07
TechrightsSocial@james h jackson jr (jameshjacksonjr)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 16:24:18 UTC - Identi.ca: Hope they eventually ship to usa i preordered the 40e phone t shirt package in the event they do part of jollas high cost.is tjey are ..May 21 18:07
TechrightsSocial@james h jackson jr (jameshjacksonjr)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 16:24:19 UTC - Identi.ca: .. not ordering parts in apple size orders so their costs are prob higher but ill take jolla or ubuntu phone over whats currently out ..May 21 18:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101037183May 21 18:08
TechrightsSocial@james h jackson jr (jameshjacksonjr)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 16:24:20 UTC - Identi.ca: .. there ill use my n900 and n9 till thenMay 21 18:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PGPBOARD/statuses/336883188024619009May 21 18:11
TechrightsSocial@PGPBOARD: @schestowitz Fugitive from USA, in his mind only.  Uncle Sam has issued not arrest warrant or charged him with any crime.. #assangeMay 21 18:11
eikonoshow's not having a warrant issued and not being charged with any crime working out for the residents of guantanamo?May 21 18:20
qu1j0t3eikonos: happy fridayMay 21 18:20
qu1j0t3eikonos: rightMay 21 18:20
eikonosthx!May 21 18:20
qu1j0t3eikonos: I'm sure he can march right up to the borderMay 21 18:21
qu1j0t3eikonos: and say "Well, i'm not charged with anything! by the rules, you can admit me without harassment."May 21 18:21
qu1j0t3mehMay 21 18:21
qu1j0t3fuq usaMay 21 18:21
qu1j0t3 | @PGPBOARD: @schestowitz #assange is a fugitive, jumped bail in Uk in order to avoid May 21 18:23
qu1j0t3 | deportation to Sweden where is wanted for alleged sex crimes...                     May 21 18:23
qu1j0t3LOLMay 21 18:23
qu1j0t3last night i met some characters like this on QuoraMay 21 18:23
qu1j0t3one is a former US ambassadorMay 21 18:23
qu1j0t3the naivety is incredibleMay 21 18:23
qu1j0t3and wishful thinkingMay 21 18:23
eikonoswe need a word that describes people who are too dumb to talk tooMay 21 18:23
eikonosie: youtube commentsMay 21 18:23
qu1j0t3"Oh, yeah! I *WISH* the USA wasn't a terrorist state, so i'll just believe it!"May 21 18:24
qu1j0t3i'm not even sure if they wish it.May 21 18:24
qu1j0t3that's the scary part...May 21 18:24
qu1j0t3they are clearly all fine with the status quoMay 21 18:24
schestowitzqu1j0t3: new page http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/New_York_TimesMay 21 18:29
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: days ago I said that by the definitoon of terrorism the CIA is a terrorist orgMay 21 18:31
schestowitzI think tweets like that scare some of my followers, but it's true and someone needs to say itMay 21 18:31
qu1j0t3definitelyMay 21 18:32
qu1j0t3the double standards are everywhereMay 21 18:32
schestowitzusing violence for political aimsMay 21 18:32
qu1j0t3it illustrates the media bubbleMay 21 18:32
qu1j0t3if you're living under that bubble your ideas conform to itMay 21 18:32
qu1j0t3some ideas are unacceptableMay 21 18:33
qu1j0t3in itMay 21 18:33
schestowitzth T word seems like misfit to manyMay 21 18:33
schestowitzT means arab to themMay 21 18:33
qu1j0t3right, because they are groupthinkingMay 21 18:33
schestowitzin fiilms, cia is whiteMay 21 18:33
qu1j0t3decades of indoctrinationMay 21 18:33
schestowitzORLY got angry over the calling of Brevik christian terroristMay 21 18:33
schestowitzalthough he did exactly what a terrorist doesMay 21 18:33
schestowitzhe's just blondMay 21 18:33
schestowitzamagibne a norwgian arab doing the same to those kidsMay 21 18:34
schestowitzassange never used violenceMay 21 18:34
schestowitzso they make up this new term, high tech terroristMay 21 18:34
qu1j0t3it's astonishingMay 21 18:34
schestowitzmeaning, make transparentMay 21 18:34
schestowitzwikileaks does not 'crafck' eitherMay 21 18:34
schestowitzso they can call ACLUA terroristMay 21 18:35
schestowitzor EFFMay 21 18:35
schestowitztoday at the gym I chatted with a mate about the BBCMay 21 18:35
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schestowitzhe says the rich people gloat over it May 21 18:36
qu1j0t3yesMay 21 18:36
schestowitzI said, wealth is not a sign of intelligence, although someimes there are correlationsMay 21 18:36
qu1j0t3nobody seems to even knowMay 21 18:36
qu1j0t3that's the problem, everything happens in secret, nothign is reportedMay 21 18:36
schestowitzseevra; years ago I spoke on the phone with someone about the BBC getting infilatratedMay 21 18:36
qu1j0t3and if you mention it, like the BBC has been co-opted,May 21 18:36
schestowitzthe guy was a UK spookMay 21 18:37
qu1j0t3people think you are making it upMay 21 18:37
schestowitzThey do have pawns in all those publications, and it was recently reported in the MSM tooMay 21 18:37
schestowitzLike it's no big dealMay 21 18:37
qu1j0t3because it's outside of the acceptable ideas they are given... by the media ... by the co-opted orgsMay 21 18:37
qu1j0t3it's almost impossible to combact thisMay 21 18:37
qu1j0t3-cMay 21 18:37
schestowitz"So waht, so James COOL Bond works for the BBC."May 21 18:37
schestowitzBTW, another story I never toldMay 21 18:37
schestowitzI met a guy from Afghanistian at the gymMay 21 18:37
qu1j0t3it's like saying the NYT is co-optedMay 21 18:37
schestowitzHe came here at a young ageMay 21 18:37
qu1j0t3"how can this be? it's a newspaper"May 21 18:37
schestowitzHe father, as it turns out, eas heading the socialists in his countryMay 21 18:38
qu1j0t3or, Gates is a criminal. "But the media isn't saying he is a criminal"May 21 18:38
qu1j0t3"So I can't accept what you are saying"May 21 18:38
schestowitzThe UK bribesd and and gave passports to his family, so he defected, let the countryMay 21 18:38
schestowitzThat's how political games are foughtMay 21 18:38
schestowitzMoney and bribes and stuff, not ideaological winsMay 21 18:38
qu1j0t3yes, since time immemorialMay 21 18:38
qu1j0t3MS always used this tacticMay 21 18:38
schestowitzThe guy was relucctant to discuss aniything which is hostile to Western interestsMay 21 18:38
schestowitzIn all fairness to him, he's a good target for them to harrass if he does get involvedMay 21 18:39
schestowitzIf I was an Arab saying what I write publicly about the CIA and such, I'd probably have been viisted several times by nowMay 21 18:39
qu1j0t3sameMay 21 18:40
schestowitzsince the CIA mostly kills arabs these days, not enough people speak outMay 21 18:40
schestowitzscared toMay 21 18:40
schestowitzthey can be framed as sting op victimMay 21 18:41
schestowitzdid you read the recent reports about Blackwater being closely connected to CIA?May 21 18:42
schestowitzSo,mething about CIA sort of bankrolling or rolling it out with Erik Prince at al.May 21 18:42
schestowitzSo basically, murder by proxy in IraqMay 21 18:42
schestowitzNo name harm for CIA, just "Z", Blackwater, and whatever the mercennaris (profiting from public subsidies for war) call themselvesMay 21 18:43
schestowitzthis is beyong criminal, it's war crimesMay 21 18:43
qu1j0t3  schestowitz | did you read the recent reports about Blackwater being closely connected to CIA?    // is that new?May 21 18:43
schestowitzDid you see the petition set up days ago to defund the CIA?May 21 18:45
schestowitzI jokes about it, saying that they would assassinate Obama by proxy before they let him or anyone who suggests this to him carry onMay 21 18:45
schestowitzCIA is a state-sanctioned ,militia basiclalyMay 21 18:45
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schestowitzwith very good PR, funded by Hollywood directors and producers and suchMay 21 18:45
schestowitzSecret wars, secret budgets. secret agents, secret ties..May 21 18:46
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101037217 http://identi.ca/notice/101037330May 21 18:47
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 16:29:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes, well aluminumMay 21 18:47
TechrightsSocial@Arthur Schiwon (blizzz)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 16:38:13 UTC - Identi.ca: whd, i pair 100 more for my n900 3 yrs ago. Consider it a good price. Still less than a new BB.May 21 18:47
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101035720 http://identi.ca/notice/101035736May 21 18:47
TechrightsSocial@Patrick Vossen (pdvossen)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 13:41:52 UTC - Identi.ca: Adobe Flash is still necessary for so many things, but using an outdated flash most the time with both my Linux Computers is frustrating.May 21 18:47
TechrightsSocial@Patrick Vossen (pdvossen)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-13 13:43:28 UTC - Identi.ca: The tornadoes were massive.May 21 18:47
qu1j0t3flash for linux is only stuck at 11.xMay 21 18:50
qu1j0t3that's pretty recent isn't it?May 21 18:50
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schestowitzI was just saying to the wifeMay 21 18:54
schestowitzthe reason many in the US want to bear arms is distrust of the gocMay 21 18:54
qu1j0t3hehMay 21 18:54
schestowitzmany books, some from former insiders, are puboished about h CIA because they sell wellMay 21 18:54
qu1j0t3"reason" probably isn't the right wordMay 21 18:54
schestowitzand more USians seem to have access to material that educates them about wars motivated by political idealogy and not real threat, just coroirate interestsMay 21 18:55
schestowitzAG Holder recently said he was worried about anti-gov sentiment in thw USMay 21 18:55
eikonosWhat if White people could be terrorists too?May 21 18:55
schestowitzCongress has just 9% <ppproval rateMay 21 18:55
schestowitzthe solution is to defund terror groups like the CIAMay 21 18:55
schestowitzeikonos: terrorists with a small TMay 21 18:56
schestowitzNot the brand TerroristMay 21 18:56
schestowitzEither you are with US, or you are with the Terrorists (Islamists)May 21 18:56
eikonosso this is different than the whole communist thing, because according to mccarthy, whites could be secret communistsMay 21 18:57
eikonosmaybe we can't imagine white people as terrorists, because white people are using terror to incite the other TerroristsMay 21 18:57
eikonossomeone needs to do a political cartoon of a drone plane wearing a suicide vestMay 21 18:59
eikonosi should suggest that to the historic times guyMay 21 18:59
qu1j0t3:[May 21 18:59
eikonoshttp://thisishistorictimes.com/May 21 19:00
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eikonosthat one is … okayMay 21 19:00
schestowitzkamikaze it's notMay 21 19:04
schestowitzIt's not suicideMay 21 19:04
eikonosyeah, but the vests represent TerrorismMay 21 19:04
eikonosand the drones are often not seen as TerrorismMay 21 19:04
schestowitzNot necessarilyMay 21 19:07
schestowitzsome Terrorists don't self-detonateMay 21 19:07
schestowitzThe ones in Boston didn'tMay 21 19:07
eikonosyou want to see a flying pressure cooker? ;)May 21 19:07
schestowitzSome Japanese pilots self-detonate and they were called neither terrorists not TerroristsMay 21 19:08
eikonosyeahMay 21 19:08
schestowitzeikonos: LOL!!!May 21 19:08
schestowitzflying pressure cooker with vests laden with dynamite sticksMay 21 19:08
eikonos"Honey, dinner is ready!"May 21 19:08
schestowitzand a scraftMay 21 19:09
schestowitzand a bin bag at the tailMay 21 19:09
schestowitz*scarfMay 21 19:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sbenejam/statuses/336897792469520384May 21 19:11
TechrightsSocial@sbenejam: Lobbies, MS, be el conte de sempre. Empra GNU/Linux.  http://t.co/MFN0i1owkqMay 21 19:11
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eikonosi can't see a lot of people there being able to afford WindowsMay 21 19:15
qu1j0t3microsoft is a cult thereMay 21 19:16
schestowitzis it?May 21 19:16
schestowitzKerala?May 21 19:16
qu1j0t3not kerala specifically May 21 19:16
qu1j0t3in BRICMay 21 19:16
schestowitzahMay 21 19:16
qu1j0t3it's treated like a cult in many casesMay 21 19:16
schestowitzMS MVPism is seen as a door outMay 21 19:16
schestowitzBUT...May 21 19:16
qu1j0t3a cult of wealthMay 21 19:16
schestowitzWe employ some DBAs who are UNIXy and are from IndiaMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3it's pretty sickMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3yes, there are exceptionsMay 21 19:17
schestowitzSo some of them may find *that* to be their door outMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3but BRIC is pretty much windows infestedMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3MS is very clever marketing in indiaMay 21 19:17
schestowitzBrzil?May 21 19:17
schestowitzChina>?May 21 19:17
qu1j0t3and Brazil is all windowsMay 21 19:17
schestowitzSeems like they are actually gtowth areas for LinuxMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3well, there are pockets of open source, but that's differentMay 21 19:17
schestowitzand Russian has high Linux shareMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3brazil home and business is all windowsMay 21 19:17
schestowitzRussia has higher share of Linux than mostMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3no, russia is mostly windowsMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3noMay 21 19:17
qu1j0t3this is reporting biasMay 21 19:18
schestowitzPigdomMay 21 19:18
qu1j0t3you hear from your contacts about linux  users in BRICMay 21 19:18
schestowitzPingdom et alMay 21 19:18
qu1j0t3but they are pocketsMay 21 19:18
qu1j0t3if you go to BRIC you'll see that it's overwhelmingly windows by defaultMay 21 19:18
schestowitzno AppleMay 21 19:18
schestowitztoo expensiveMay 21 19:18
qu1j0t3the issue of openness isn't even on the radar, mostlyMay 21 19:18
schestowitzbut Linux is the alternative\May 21 19:18
schestowitzit's more Windows %May 21 19:18
schestowitzbut more Linux tooMay 21 19:18
schestowitzBecause Apple ain't thereMay 21 19:18
qu1j0t3the middle class in BRIC is like the western middle class but even more status and ignorance drivenMay 21 19:19
schestowitziphone is not a phoneMay 21 19:19
qu1j0t3they are apoliticalMay 21 19:19
schestowitzit's a fashion accessoryMay 21 19:19
qu1j0t3it's all about having the trappingsMay 21 19:19
qu1j0t3conspicuous consumptionMay 21 19:19
qu1j0t3it's really sickMay 21 19:19
schestowitzand in poor countries they can buy you friendsMay 21 19:19
schestowitzI heard from a friend who works in Spain that some people save FOR A YEAR to buy iPhoneMay 21 19:19
qu1j0t3  ruskie | heh "xbox one" cloud powered                 May 21 19:20
qu1j0t3  ruskie | http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=2278642   May 21 19:20
qu1j0t3  ruskie | looks like a PC, has x86, 8GB RAM            May 21 19:20
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's worse in russiaMay 21 19:20
schestowitzcan it run Vista? :-)May 21 19:20
schestowitz64-bitMay 21 19:20
schestowitzvapour-poweredMay 21 19:20
schestowitzThe engine is not under your controlMay 21 19:21
schestowitzYou get a keyboardMay 21 19:21
schestowitzMicrosoft gets the restMay 21 19:21
schestowitzstart typing... now1May 21 19:21
schestowitzOne of our clients uses MicrosofOnlineMay 21 19:21
schestowitzSo I need to log in via Microsoft to send messages on their behalf, first time I had to do this was yesterday, amid downtimes in SingaporeMay 21 19:21
schestowitzI did a lot of Google Docs for another clientsMay 21 19:22
schestowitzThis is the first time I akm forced to log in through MicrosoftMay 21 19:22
schestowitzKnowing they can track every little thing I doMay 21 19:22
schestowitzWhich I akm forced to doMay 21 19:22
schestowitzMicrosoft is trying to get this junk into schools and collegs nowMay 21 19:22
schestowitzlocki-in plus loss of privacyMay 21 19:22
schestowitzI am being serves some very ugly ads recentlyMay 21 19:22
schestowitzI have no idea why I got flagged as suchMay 21 19:22
schestowitzAnd they infiltrate and insult me by embedding themselves in pagesMay 21 19:23
schestowitzI can't stop these, maybe block the ads, but stil..May 21 19:23
schestowitzImagine a cheating husband talking to mates about it and then getting prostututes ads when he wife is around, or a gay person getting classified ads from gay sites embedded in pages wheile a friend is around. or someone with HIV having AIDS-related marketing when the kids are watching... you get the pointMay 21 19:24
schestowitzThe ads are starting to become a sort of disclosure of what people are saying and doing or searching for, and there's no way to stop this profiling, which in my case is not even correct and very insultingMay 21 19:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2637548May 21 19:25
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free press should not be *entitled* to a business model. It's one of those branches (fourth pillars) that's worth taxpayers' funds.May 21 19:25
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schestowitz"May 21 19:26
schestowitzAccepting taxpayer money only corrupts the 'free' press. Inevitably there are conditions on that money and inevitably those conditions multiply. The free press can only thrive in a free market. How can you honestly expect a press critical of government when they are accepting money from government? It's a conflict of interests at best. Besides, the press doesn't need government money/handouts from the taxpayers. Thanks to theMay 21 19:26
schestowitzinternet, the press is more free and varied than ever and that will only continue as more people migrate from getting most of their news from the tv or a newspaper to online sources.May 21 19:26
schestowitzI see your point with regards to 'news' organizations accepting money from corporations (PBS) but trading corporations for the government doesn't help. Competition is the key.May 21 19:26
schestowitz"May 21 19:26
schestowitz"As soon as it becomes a taxpayer supported entity, some bureaucrat or CONgress critter or idealist or fringe element will want to exert editorial control over the content. You can't have a Free Press that is taxpayer funded."May 21 19:27
schestowitzBoth points convinced me I was wrong.May 21 19:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2622931May 21 19:28
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ZFS vs. #EXT4 On Linux Multi-Disk #RAID Benchmarks http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM1ODk #linuxMay 21 19:28
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schestowitz"Problem is he is using Linux 2.6.32 kernel. I think kernel 3.9 is released and 3.2 is in LTS producton and distributions use something in between."May 21 19:28
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/Symbo1ics/status/336913445733679104May 21 19:36
TechrightsSocial@Symbo1ics: PM Harper and Cons talking points say that "breaking expense rules" is the problem here. #StopHarper #cdnpoliMay 21 19:36
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/fakedansavage/status/336911756519690240May 21 19:37
TechrightsSocial@fakedansavage: And... scene. "Westboro Baptist Church Blames Oklahoma Tornado On Jason Collins' Coming Out http://t.co/AUgdrDHTcA via @huffingtonpost"May 21 19:37
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qu1j0t3http://ipayroadtax.com/no-such-thing-as-road-tax/i-knocked-a-cyclist-off-his-bike-i-have-right-of-way-he-doesnt-even-pay-road-tax/May 21 19:39
TechrightsSocialTitle: “I knocked a cyclist off his bike. I have right of way, he doesn’t even pay road tax” – I Pay Road Tax .::. Size~: 30.12 KBMay 21 19:39
eikonossighMay 21 19:39
eikonosare there psychological studies about how and why pedestrians and cyclists are viewed as second-class citizens/not-quite-people?May 21 19:42
qu1j0t3i think we can trace it back to where these people get all their ideas from.May 21 19:43
qu1j0t3here's another hint: They don't like brown people either.May 21 19:43
qu1j0t3yay humansMay 21 19:44
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/antonioregalado/status/336890260397096962/photo/1May 21 19:44
TechrightsSocial@antonioregalado: Canada's plan to steal Silicon Valley's visa-less entrepreneurs. This billboard appeared on Hwy. 101. http://t.co/B0Z0xWE5pGMay 21 19:44
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eikonoseven Ford has that issue. his driving while reading and flipping the mother and daughter off demonstrate he thinks that wayMay 21 19:45
eikonosi think it's some kind of personal exceptionalismMay 21 19:45
qu1j0t3oh boyMay 21 19:45
qu1j0t3and it isMay 21 19:45
eikonosie: i'm special, therefore i can do what i want, and these other people need to get out of the wayMay 21 19:45
qu1j0t3yesMay 21 19:45
qu1j0t3it's everywhereMay 21 19:45
qu1j0t3look for the common influences :)May 21 19:45
eikonosalso, too big to failMay 21 19:49
eikonos"i'm too rich to be guilty of a crime like that.."May 21 19:49
eikonosor: "i ride the special morality bus"May 21 19:49
qu1j0t3maybe she thinks it's a video game and she gets points for hitting cyclists and standing up to her imaginary tax rightsMay 21 19:54
eikonoshahaMay 21 19:56
eikonosi'm not sure how tax could possibly justify hurting another personMay 21 19:56
eikonosshe probably felt bad subconsciously and made that upMay 21 19:57
eikonosin order to cope with the cognitive dissonance of being a bad personMay 21 19:57
schestowitzhttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/is-it-ever-a-good-thing.htmlMay 21 20:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Is It Ever a Good Thing to Use a Nonfree Program?  - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 11.69 KBMay 21 20:14
schestowitz"For instance, some (not all) of the activities of the Gates Foundation are laudable, but they don't excuse Bill Gates's career, or Microsoft. If the business works directly against the worthy cause it tries to legitimize itself with, that is a self-contradiction and it undermines the cause."May 21 20:14
eikonoswas leni reifenstahl a good filmmaker?May 21 20:14
qu1j0t3making money justifies the means eikonos May 21 20:18
eikonosoh yeah, i remember when jesus said thatMay 21 20:18
qu1j0t3it's like saying "Yes, I shot my neighbour, but apart from that i lead a normal life, so you can't put me in jail."May 21 20:18
eikonoshow rich people are the best and most moralMay 21 20:18
qu1j0t3i'm still not sure whether i'd rather see Gates homeless or in jailMay 21 20:19
qu1j0t3either would work for meMay 21 20:19
eikonos"but my neighbour didn't mow his lawn regularly, and he probably didn't pay property tax.."May 21 20:19
eikonosi'd like to see gates flipping burgers at McDMay 21 20:19
MinceRwas it Supply-Side Jesus?May 21 20:20
qu1j0t3eikonos: nah, too comfortable.May 21 20:21
MinceRi'd see him mine at a quarryMay 21 20:21
qu1j0t3yeah that would be fine.May 21 20:23
qu1j0t3diamond mine in brazil maybe.May 21 20:23
MinceRhttp://www.adafruit.com/catsofengineeringMay 21 20:25
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cats Of Engineering : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits .::. Size~: 72.67 KBMay 21 20:25
eikonoshow about sewing clothes in a bangladeshi garment factory?May 21 20:26
qu1j0t3eikonos: brilliantMay 21 20:26
qu1j0t3one of the ones that his plutocrat bodies won't inspectMay 21 20:26
qu1j0t3buddies*May 21 20:26
eikonosqu1j0t3: an acoyne you might be able to read: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/05/20/andrew-coyne-wrights-resignation-not-the-governments-moral-reclamation-its-the-next-act-in-the-tragedy/May 21 20:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Nigel Wright’s resignation not the government’s moral reclamation | Full Comment | National Post .::. Size~: 72.8 KBMay 21 20:47
eikonosbasically, the Conservatives are simply not capable of acting morallyMay 21 20:49
qu1j0t3eikonos: i'll be honest with you i didn't read the last oneMay 21 20:49
qu1j0t3eikonos: i'm kind of waiting for acoyne to apologise for calling g20 protesters sociopathsMay 21 20:49
*eikonos is shockedMay 21 20:49
qu1j0t3call me pettyMay 21 20:49
eikonossureMay 21 20:50
eikonosbut you can be happy that he's calling the conservative immoral now?May 21 20:50
eikonosconservatives*May 21 20:51
qu1j0t3well, i didn't read the columnMay 21 20:51
qu1j0t3but how do we know it's from real conviction?May 21 20:51
eikonosdoes it matter?May 21 20:52
qu1j0t3well it matters to my personal relationship with ACoyne.May 21 20:52
qu1j0t3do you think his column is the crack in the harper foundationsMay 21 20:52
eikonosit could bMay 21 20:52
eikonoseMay 21 20:52
qu1j0t3ok, so let's say acoyne is saying this without convictionMay 21 20:52
qu1j0t3and it brings down the ConsMay 21 20:53
eikonossomeone should write a column on Ford and call it "crack in the facade"May 21 20:53
qu1j0t3hahahahahMay 21 20:53
qu1j0t3they cancelled their radio showMay 21 20:53
qu1j0t3so that's progressMay 21 20:53
eikonosyeahMay 21 20:53
eikonoswhat if a person speaks the truth, but doesn't actually believe it -- is it still true?May 21 20:54
MinceRyes, then they're lying and speaking the truth at the same timeMay 21 20:54
*qu1j0t3 ponders thisMay 21 20:55
qu1j0t3eikonos: well, i demand accountability for ACoyne *and* Harper. that's the issue.May 21 20:55
qu1j0t3eikonos: just because acoyne might have accidentally switched to a winning side, doesn't mean he shouldn't be accountableMay 21 20:55
eikonosrightMay 21 20:55
eikonosbut if he's right, we can say he's right about that particular thingMay 21 20:56
qu1j0t3sureMay 21 20:58
qu1j0t3i'm just not getting any medals readyMay 21 20:58
eikonosoh, of course notMay 21 20:58
eikonosi'm not saying i like him nowMay 21 20:59
qu1j0t3hahaMay 21 20:59
eikonosjust that i do agree with this one particular articleMay 21 20:59
eikonosif he wrote 5 more things i agreed with, then i'd start to reconsider what i think of himMay 21 21:00
eikonosit's, um, bayesian :PMay 21 21:01
qu1j0t3sure, you'll agree with him until the next set of OWS/globalisation protestsMay 21 21:01
qu1j0t3when he starts cheering badgeless police violence againMay 21 21:01
eikonoswell, i'm trying not to think about him personallyMay 21 21:01
qu1j0t3that may not be a good ideaMay 21 21:02
eikonosput it this way, suppose the article was published without a name, would it be true?May 21 21:02
qu1j0t3would a Thomas Friedman column published without a name be worth reading?May 21 21:02
eikonoshe's not a friedmanMay 21 21:02
eikonoshahhahaMay 21 21:02
qu1j0t3i wouldn't be too sure about thatMay 21 21:02
qu1j0t3mehMay 21 21:02
qu1j0t3anywayMay 21 21:02
qu1j0t3ALRIGHT I'LL READ ITMay 21 21:02
eikonoswith friedman, you know you don't have to read it at allMay 21 21:02
eikonosoh, you don't have to read coyne -- i don't mind either wayMay 21 21:03
qu1j0t3wat, it's on National Post?May 21 21:03
qu1j0t3eikonos: ...May 21 21:03
qu1j0t3National Post carries Blatchford don't they?May 21 21:03
qu1j0t3jesus weptMay 21 21:03
qu1j0t3and syndicates Conrad BlackMay 21 21:03
eikonosewwwMay 21 21:03
qu1j0t3Nat Post is a right wing ragMay 21 21:03
qu1j0t3you know thatMay 21 21:03
qu1j0t3no wonder coyne's all over itMay 21 21:03
*qu1j0t3 tries anywayMay 21 21:04
eikonosread the last two paragraphsMay 21 21:04
qu1j0t3*I* deserve a medal for thisMay 21 21:04
eikonosLOLMay 21 21:04
eikonosfineMay 21 21:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2637548May 21 21:05
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free press should not be *entitled* to a business model. It's one of those branches (fourth pillars) that's worth taxpayers' funds.May 21 21:05
schestowitz"As soon as it becomes a taxpayer supported entity, some bureaucrat or CONgress critter or idealist or fringe element will want to exert editorial control over the content. You can't have a Free Press that is taxpayer funded."May 21 21:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2637547May 21 21:05
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #PBS Killed Uprising Documentary "Citizen Koch" To Appease #Koch   http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/05/12118/pbs-killed-wisconsin-uprising-documentary-citizen-koch-appease-koch-brothers funded by plutocrats http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/public-broadcasting-service-as-instrument/May 21 21:05
TechrightsSocial-> Title: PBS Killed Wisconsin Uprising Documentary "Citizen Koch" To Appease Koch Brothers  | PR Watch .::. Size~: 61.3 KBMay 21 21:05
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schestowitz"No! Money cannot be a corruptive influence [/sarc]"May 21 21:05
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/336935863399358465May 21 21:05
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Harper's talking points ask us to believe the problem here ends with dodgy expense claims. #cdnpoli #StopHarperMay 21 21:06
eikonosschestowitz: might just be me, but i can't be bothered to pay any attention to PBSMay 21 21:07
eikonosthey're just not interestingMay 21 21:07
eikonosmaybe it's that they seem too worried about avoiding appearing controversialMay 21 21:08
eikonosqu1j0t3: re: your tweet … acoyne's point in that article is that the dodgy expense claims are just a symptom of morally bankrupt peopleMay 21 21:14
eikonosso it can't stop with just the expense claimsMay 21 21:15
qu1j0t3sureMay 21 21:17
qu1j0t3it's becoming a popular view i guessMay 21 21:17
qu1j0t3interesting the NP is printing it May 21 21:17
eikonosexactlyMay 21 21:17
eikonosmuch more interesting than if the huffington mail had printed itMay 21 21:18
qu1j0t3i notice acoyne falls far short of naming the real source of the rotMay 21 21:18
qu1j0t3in factMay 21 21:19
qu1j0t3his column dances on that line May 21 21:19
eikonoswell, yeahMay 21 21:19
qu1j0t3of "maybe it is just a string of bad apples in the senate"May 21 21:19
qu1j0t3there is no way he is going to point at harperMay 21 21:19
qu1j0t3he has to hedge his betsMay 21 21:19
qu1j0t3and since Wright has already resignedMay 21 21:20
qu1j0t3the NP is taking no risk at all in printing thisMay 21 21:20
qu1j0t3no other names are mentionedMay 21 21:21
qu1j0t3the conflict of interest code, as quoted by coyne, should put wright in prison, pretty muchMay 21 21:22
eikonosyepMay 21 21:22
qu1j0t3eikonos: i am tired of constantly repeated language like this:May 21 21:25
qu1j0t3  "Whether in fact it broke any laws, it crosses all sorts of ethical red lines that, as a matter of prudence if nothing else, anyone with any sense would wish to avoidMay 21 21:25
qu1j0t3"Whether in fact it broke any laws, it crosses all sorts of ethical red lines"May 21 21:25
eikonoswell.. yeah, that's weasellyMay 21 21:25
qu1j0t3it's language like this they use as fig leavesMay 21 21:25
qu1j0t3every scandalMay 21 21:25
qu1j0t3people come out and write thisMay 21 21:25
qu1j0t3"WHETEHR OR NOT IT WAS ILLEGAL, IT LOOKED BAD"May 21 21:25
eikonosclear double standardMay 21 21:25
qu1j0t3Every. Gooddamn. Time.May 21 21:25
eikonosyeahMay 21 21:25
qu1j0t3it is weasely. and dangerously so.May 21 21:26
qu1j0t3it's like Oh, I see you, robber, here, let me unlock the front door in case you're armed.May 21 21:26
qu1j0t3ACoyne is terrified of making a too-strong statementMay 21 21:26
qu1j0t3this is the problem with columnistsMay 21 21:26
qu1j0t3and famous people in generalMay 21 21:26
qu1j0t3"We must not be seen to be PARTISAN..."May 21 21:27
qu1j0t3"the payment gives every appearance of having been part of a deal"May 21 21:28
qu1j0t3this part is true...May 21 21:28
qu1j0t3and definitely that must be investigated.May 21 21:29
qu1j0t3other people are braver, and asking for the terms of that deal to be made public.May 21 21:29
eikonosyepMay 21 21:30
qu1j0t3eikonos: i give him points for slamming Crockatt.May 21 21:30
qu1j0t3that was amazing.May 21 21:30
*qu1j0t3 closes windowMay 21 21:30
eikonosyeah, that bit was goodMay 21 21:31
eikonosbasically, they're not morally capable of better behaviourMay 21 21:31
eikonosthey're simply corruptMay 21 21:31
qu1j0t3seeMay 21 21:31
qu1j0t3this is where the whole nightmare beganMay 21 21:32
qu1j0t3with the story that the electorate "punished' Martin's liberalsMay 21 21:32
qu1j0t3i'm beginning to doubt that is what happened, exactlyMay 21 21:32
qu1j0t3since the electorate has never punished Harper for much worse, ever.May 21 21:32
eikonosrightMay 21 21:32
eikonosit's a narrativeMay 21 21:32
eikonosand the thing that bugs me most, is that paul martin managed to balance the budget repeatedly, and that's exactly the sort of leader we should haveMay 21 21:33
eikonosand anyone involved in adscam should just go to jailMay 21 21:33
eikonosi suppose i'm assuming martin was unawareMay 21 21:33
qu1j0t3see, the liberals may have screwed up in some way that is surely much less than Harper's institutional amoralityMay 21 21:34
qu1j0t3but: *WE* WERE PUNISHED.May 21 21:34
eikonoslol, yeahMay 21 21:34
qu1j0t3so this narrative makes no sense.May 21 21:34
eikonosrightMay 21 21:34
qu1j0t3except as a way of explaining how Canada got sold off to plutocracy.May 21 21:34
qu1j0t3and China.May 21 21:34
qu1j0t3Why aren't canadians ANGRY?????May 21 21:35
eikonossearch meMay 21 21:35
eikonoschina is awfulMay 21 21:35
eikonosbad on human rights, bad on oligarchy, bad on environmentMay 21 21:35
eikonosi can't think what they're doing rightMay 21 21:35
qu1j0t3nothingMay 21 21:36
qu1j0t3they are a disasterMay 21 21:36
qu1j0t3absolute disasterMay 21 21:37
qu1j0t3and so of course we should give Canada away to themMay 21 21:37
qu1j0t3makes perfect senseMay 21 21:37
eikonosbut they're strong on their "economy"May 21 21:37
qu1j0t3China manages to do the impossible: Make the USA look semi-sustainable.May 21 21:37
eikonosS was telling me how a lot of art galleries are setting up shop in HK because the newly rich chinese are buyingMay 21 21:37
qu1j0t3sighMay 21 21:38
qu1j0t3a gold rushMay 21 21:38
MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/05/obamaleadership1.jpgMay 21 21:43
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/336946220138369026May 21 21:47
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Now let's remember all the scandals out of the headlines thanks to PMO paying off Duffy. Did they find the missing $3bln? #StopHarperMay 21 21:47
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