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| XFaCE | MinceR: theoretically move to possibly in a hypothetical future | May 23 00:11 |
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| roy_ | > Hi Dr. Schestowitz, | May 23 00:12 |
| roy_ | > | May 23 00:12 |
| roy_ | > That would be fine with us. I will send you a calendar invite with dial-in information for this call, which is set for Friday, May 24, at 5 p.m. GMT. If you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. We look forward to speaking with you then. | May 23 00:12 |
| roy_ | > | May 23 00:12 |
| roy_ | > Thanks, | May 23 00:12 |
| roy_ | > Christine | May 23 00:12 |
| *roy_ is now known as schestowitz | May 23 00:12 | |
| schestowitz | You know what I was thinking? I the s/w world there are some parallels to the wars of religions on society | May 23 00:12 |
| eikonos | yep | May 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | There is some rogue element, let's call it nonfree s/w, and saying bad things about it is "insulting and extreme" | May 23 00:13 |
| eikonos | java is terrorism | May 23 00:13 |
| eikonos | :P | May 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | So then you have leftists and such | May 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | "leave Microsoft al;one" | May 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft -- they're people, let's sing kumbayah with them | May 23 00:13 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft RELIES and feeds on these people | May 23 00:14 |
| eikonos | it's a good idea to leave MS alone | May 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | it needs to appease them with PR and stuff | May 23 00:14 |
| eikonos | and their software too | May 23 00:14 |
| eikonos | especially their software | May 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | Like "reigious of peace", Microsoft "come in peace" | May 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | And then those who antagonise Gates, MSFT etc. are like the racists equiv. | May 23 00:14 |
| eikonos | with a gun in a their right, and a bible in their left hand | May 23 00:14 |
| schestowitz | The question is then, how to go about avoiding the claims of Microsoftobia and such | May 23 00:15 |
| eikonos | i avoid MS because i don't like the way their software works | May 23 00:15 |
| schestowitz | And insists with information that to build biidges for the Trojan horse will help them become a majority and then crush us from the inside, as Microsoft already destoryed many FOSS-leaning companies, projects, consortia.. | May 23 00:15 |
| eikonos | it's just not well-designed | May 23 00:15 |
| eikonos | depending on the specific circumstances, i'd argue why using MS software isn't a good idea | May 23 00:17 |
| eikonos | whether it's file-format interop | May 23 00:17 |
| eikonos | or network protocols | May 23 00:17 |
| eikonos | or browser standards support | May 23 00:17 |
| eikonos | basically, their stuff doesn't play well with anyone else | May 23 00:17 |
| eikonos | and i'd argue the same when google drops support for an open standard | May 23 00:17 |
| eikonos | or apple | May 23 00:18 |
| schestowitz | that's aside from the point I was making, but yes, I agree | May 23 00:18 |
| eikonos | if a person likes MS, or is even indifferent, then trying to convince them that MS is some kind of conspiracy isn't going to work | May 23 00:20 |
| eikonos | not that it isn't a conspiracy | May 23 00:20 |
| schestowitz | conspiracy? No... | May 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz | There are conspiracies that involve Microsoft though | May 23 00:23 |
| eikonos | yeah | May 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz | But Microsoft itself is not a conspiracy | May 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz | People *Can* be shown that Apple works with Microsoft on the patent front | May 23 00:23 |
| schestowitz | Or that Nokia dn yahoo are Microsoft-run to a degree | May 23 00:23 |
| eikonos | well that explains the increasing irrelevance of nokia | May 23 00:24 |
| eikonos | and yahoo… well, they'll keep shuffling along | May 23 00:25 |
| eikonos | like a katamari damancy zombie | May 23 00:25 |
| eikonos | tumblering through acquisitions | May 23 00:25 |
| schestowitz | no qcquisitions | May 23 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Disruptions, entruism, infiltration | May 23 00:28 |
| schestowitz | *yism | May 23 00:28 |
| schestowitz | > Hi Dr. Schestowitz, | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > Below is the dial-in information for your briefing with UEFI | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > spokespersons Mark Doran, UEFI President, and Michael Krau, UEFI Forum’s | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > Industry Communications Working Group (ICWG) Chair, scheduled for 5 p.m. | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > GMT and 10 a.m PT on Friday, May 24. | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > *Toll-free: 866-906-7447* | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > *Toll/International: 617-939-0999* | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > When prompted, dial the following access code, followed by the # sign: | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | > *Participant Code: 3705185* | May 23 00:30 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, Christine. | May 23 00:30 |
| eikonos | you're in PT? | May 23 00:31 |
| eikonos | i always assume people are out east, or in europe | May 23 00:31 |
| eikonos | or is that them? | May 23 00:31 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_EFI_Forum | May 23 00:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Unified EFI Forum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 30.55 KB | May 23 00:32 |
| schestowitz | eikonos: personal training? | May 23 00:33 |
| eikonos | Pacific Time Zone | May 23 00:34 |
| eikonos | 10AM PT | May 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz | Ah | May 23 00:34 |
| schestowitz | She made an error | May 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz | > Of course. To clarify, I scheduled this meeting at 5pm GMT (not BST). Does that work best for you, given your location? | May 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I will be home all afternoon. I don't work that day, except for conference call at 10 AM. | May 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz | Their aim is to appease critics | May 23 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I just spent a few minutes reading up on some background information, my only issue to take up on with them is Secure Boot, and I will make that clear | May 23 00:36 |
| eikonos | yeah, i was wondering about that | May 23 00:36 |
| schestowitz | "The board of directors includes representatives from eleven "Promoter" companies: AMD, American Megatrends, Apple, Dell, HP, IBM, Insyde Software, Intel, Lenovo, Microsoft, and Phoenix Technologies." | May 23 00:36 |
| schestowitz | Let me see if anyone on that call is from Microsoft | May 23 00:36 |
| schestowitz | or Apple | May 23 00:36 |
| schestowitz | " | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Current | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Intel | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Previous | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Insyde Software, | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | AZAD, | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Hewlett-Packard | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | " | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | That's the president | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | oh, wzait.. | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | That's the Working Grouo guy | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Mark Doran is the president | May 23 00:37 |
| schestowitz | They did a similar briefing with a zdnet uk blogger to appease his criticism | May 23 00:38 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/f?keywords=Mark+Doran+&orig=GLHD&pageKey=voltron_federated_search_internal_jsp | May 23 00:39 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Sign In | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 26.23 KB | May 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | "Writer and lecturer who thinks this site is just another self-deceiving business-world jerk-off that achieves nothing." | May 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | He is wright | May 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | But it's not him.. | May 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | "Global Technology Services Programme Manager at IBM"N | May 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | Not him ither | May 23 00:39 |
| schestowitz | "Outsourcing/Offshoring" | May 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | At IBM | May 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | That's their biz model now it seems | May 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | increasing profit by paying less | May 23 00:40 |
| schestowitz | His talking points are here http://www.zdnet.com/uefi-and-secure-boot-in-depth-7000012138/ I can't find if he works only for the group or still works/ed for others | May 23 00:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: UEFI and secure boot in depth | ZDNet .::. Size~: 56.31 KB | May 23 00:41 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't even ask him about Restricted Boot ther | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | just softball questions for his PR talking points | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Not a god job from Jamie Watson | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | *good | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | He shoudl question him about freedom and such | May 23 00:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.uefi.org/about/ | May 23 00:47 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: UEFI - About UEFI .::. Size~: 16.65 KB | May 23 00:47 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to see where he comes from | May 23 00:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.uefi.org/about/ | May 23 00:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: UEFI - About UEFI .::. Size~: 16.65 KB | May 23 00:49 |
| schestowitz | No, we need none | May 23 00:49 |
| schestowitz | re http://www.zdnet.com/uefi-and-secure-boot-in-depth-7000012138/ | May 23 00:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: UEFI and secure boot in depth | ZDNet .::. Size~: 56.3 KB | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | crap, wait.. | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | effin Firefox | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.networkworld.com/research/2013/022813-uefi-president-we-need-more-267245.html | May 23 00:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: UEFI president: We need more key providers - Network World .::. Size~: 105.93 KB | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | we need none | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | they miss the point that this is like DRM in W3C | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | We nned this eliminated, not legitimised | May 23 00:50 |
| schestowitz | Ah, he is in Intel | May 23 00:51 |
| schestowitz | "IDG News Service spoke with the UEFI Forum President Mark Doran, who is also an Intel senior principal engineer, about what UEFI does, how Secure Boot works, and the reaction that Microsoft has gotten from its use of UEFI. " | May 23 00:51 |
| eikonos | how is DRM like that supposed to help consumers? | May 23 00:52 |
| eikonos | actually, you might ask them that | May 23 00:52 |
| schestowitz | yes | May 23 00:52 |
| schestowitz | It does nothing for security | May 23 00:52 |
| schestowitz | or for choice | May 23 00:53 |
| eikonos | and then when they give BS points, ask how each of the points will /specifically/ help | May 23 00:53 |
| eikonos | like a real scenario | May 23 00:53 |
| schestowitz | they might do some spin-doctrinign like thuis (which I doubt) | May 23 00:53 |
| schestowitz | COmpanies can lock h/w to an OS | May 23 00:53 |
| schestowitz | or image with s/w and ties to ads, etc. | May 23 00:53 |
| schestowitz | And then they can offer you th hardware susidised | May 23 00:53 |
| schestowitz | basiclaly like tivoisation and DRM | May 23 00:53 |
| schestowitz | the razor blade analogy | May 23 00:53 |
| eikonos | or cellphones | May 23 00:53 |
| schestowitz | which hardly excuses it | May 23 00:54 |
| eikonos | with the contract | May 23 00:54 |
| schestowitz | yes | May 23 00:54 |
| schestowitz | jailbreaking was almost made illegal in the US | May 23 00:54 |
| schestowitz | Obama was petitioned to death, they said they'll revise the law | May 23 00:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | fuq obama | May 23 00:55 |
| schestowitz | They will definitely try to drag me into a technicla discussion | May 23 00:55 |
| schestowitz | they know UEFI inside out so they can beat me on that, I ned to keep them talking about consumers (meaning customers), freedom, preservation and access to hardware past its lifetime, wartime lockouts etc. | May 23 00:56 |
| schestowitz | UEFI is very dangerous | May 23 00:56 |
| schestowitz | it reduces your ssecurity if these can be revoked to make yoiur army's computers unbootable | May 23 00:56 |
| schestowitz | e.g. by remote update | May 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | brocking it | May 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | *bricking | May 23 00:57 |
| eikonos | right | May 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Germany banned UEFI Secure Boot | May 23 00:57 |
| eikonos | how does any of this help the average person | May 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | So much for 'security' | May 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | So on these grounds I can hopefully leave them stuttering, and I'll record for a poissible episode of techbytes | May 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | last episode was with RMS, we made it into front page of /. | May 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | UEFI got cracked | May 23 00:58 |
| schestowitz | the keys leaked | May 23 00:58 |
| schestowitz | more than once | May 23 00:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/mileskahn/status/337354652481880066 | May 23 00:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | @mileskahn: I just spent 10 minutes reading a internet troll battle between an atheist and an Evangelical and now I hate everyone ever everywhere. | May 23 00:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: ^^ | May 23 00:58 |
| schestowitz | Showing that on these grounds a rogue entity can bypass UEFI security nonsense easily | May 23 00:58 |
| eikonos | qu1j0t3: Negative Feedback Loop | May 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz | I don't do atheist discussion | May 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz | I like watching youtube videos about those topics, for entertainment onlu, maybe while doing the dishes | May 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz | These arguments where you have ideaology at one side are not to be won based on argument | May 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz | dogma transcends logic | May 23 00:59 |
| schestowitz | transcendance nonense that makses magic somehow superior and more moral than all else | May 23 01:00 |
| schestowitz | Technical discussion usually adhere to both morals and technical merits (absolutes for the most part) | May 23 01:00 |
| eikonos | just tell them you believe in their god. and all the other ones too | May 23 01:00 |
| eikonos | then try to convert them to multitheism ;) | May 23 01:00 |
| schestowitz | also, technical argumetns change | May 23 01:00 |
| schestowitz | e.g. to invclude UEFI, DRM, new stuff... | May 23 01:00 |
| schestowitz | The religious arguments become repetitive, it's an old problem, even if it's not yet a resolved one and won;'t be resolved for a long time to come | May 23 01:01 |
| schestowitz | eikonos: they are atheists too | May 23 01:01 |
| schestowitz | re all Gods | May 23 01:01 |
| schestowitz | except one | May 23 01:01 |
| schestowitz | "the difference between you and me, I believe one God less" | May 23 01:01 |
| eikonos | yeah, i love that quote | May 23 01:01 |
| schestowitz | It helps show them the absurdity | May 23 01:02 |
| schestowitz | wwithout being too rude | May 23 01:02 |
| eikonos | right | May 23 01:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz | I don't do atheist discussion // Thank God! | May 23 01:05 |
| *qu1j0t3 doesn't either. | May 23 01:05 | |
| qu1j0t3 | i upset my trainer today | May 23 01:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | by mentioning hinduism | May 23 01:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | he called Buddha "a loser" | May 23 01:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | that abandoning the material existence was a cop-out | May 23 01:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | and the real heroes embrace materiality and their responsibilities | May 23 01:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | hahahaha | May 23 01:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | i never heard somebody dis Buddha before | May 23 01:06 |
| eikonos | odd | May 23 01:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | it was funny | May 23 01:06 |
| eikonos | he clearly failed to understand nonattachment | May 23 01:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | definitely | May 23 01:07 |
| eikonos | probably drives one of those cars... | May 23 01:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | he said that in buddha's area, near tibet, there are thousands of "losers" living in the mountains | May 23 01:07 |
| eikonos | haha | May 23 01:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | he sees them as abandoning their responsibilities | May 23 01:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | exectly as buddha did | May 23 01:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | buddha left his wife, a 3 yo son, and such | May 23 01:08 |
| eikonos | ah | May 23 01:08 |
| schestowitz | [01:05] * qu1j0t3 doesn't either. | May 23 01:18 |
| schestowitz | I like memes and cartoons, they're good for entertainment value, MinceR posts many of them here | May 23 01:18 |
| trmanco | http://www.reddit.com/tb/1eudck | May 23 01:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Hi Reddit, I reverse engineered leaked Windows 8.1 OS images and wrote about the upcoming Win8.1 Metro apps developer APIs. Includes: Bluetooth 4.0, HDR Cameras, multiple screens, super high-res displays, smart cards, VPN, barcode scanner, magnetic card, scanners, new XAML & WinJS controls and more. : programming .::. Size~: 294.11 KB | May 23 01:18 |
| schestowitz | Some videos too, like the Hitchens slap | May 23 01:18 |
| schestowitz | fake leak? | May 23 01:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft leaks like a 100-yar-old who ran out of adult diapers | May 23 01:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | !! | May 23 01:22 |
| eikonos | hahaha | May 23 01:22 |
| eikonos | reverse engineered? | May 23 01:23 |
| eikonos | yeah, i'm totally buying that | May 23 01:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | sigh | May 23 01:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | there's also a big who-the-fuck-cares factor here | May 23 01:23 |
| eikonos | lol | May 23 01:24 |
| eikonos | yes there is | May 23 01:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | eh Specimen? | May 23 01:24 |
| eikonos | he would be disappoint if he were here | May 23 01:24 |
| eikonos | i'm going to be interested in the next version of Windows if they're offering to pay me to use it | May 23 01:26 |
| eikonos | that's my "must have" feature list | May 23 01:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: in the "Oh yeah, that'll work" department: https://twitter.com/legalizepotusa/status/337371685483323393 | May 23 02:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | @legalizepotusa: Paul McCartney Writes Letters to Russian Officials Supporting Pussy Riot http://t.co/p7vfZ5cWJA via @billboard @stormof69 4u | May 23 02:08 |
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| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: oh look, a murder. oops, no, a non-white person; ergo terrorism: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/05/22/london_machete_attack_prime_minister_david_cameron_suggests_attack_on_london.html | May 23 03:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: London machete attack: Prime Minister David Cameron suggests attack on London street may be act of terror. .::. Size~: 94.82 KB | May 23 03:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | LOL | May 23 03:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | what a f***ing idiot | May 23 03:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | (Cameron) | May 23 03:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/05/xbox_one_announced_steve_jobs_dream_device_has_arrived_and_it_s_made_by.html | May 23 03:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Xbox One announced: Steve Jobs' dream device has arrived, and it's made by Microsoft. - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 200.59 KB | May 23 03:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/05/22/american_drone_strikes_tamerlan_s_friend_oklahoma_death_toll_holds_steady.html | May 23 03:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: American drone strikes, Tamerlan's friend, Oklahoma death toll holds steady, and more from The Slatest PM. .::. Size~: 103.12 KB | May 23 03:29 |
| trmanco | what a joke -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2025703 | May 23 03:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Renaming a network folder in Windows 7 Explorer fails with "the action can't be completed..." .::. Size~: 116.98 KB | May 23 03:36 |
| trmanco | it's happening to me all the time now | May 23 03:36 |
| trmanco | and i can't find the damn registry entry | May 23 03:39 |
| trmanco | awesome | May 23 03:39 |
| trmanco | just awesome | May 23 03:39 |
| *qu1j0t3 shrugs | May 23 03:41 | |
| trmanco | LOL, i tried there stupid fixit thingy and it's "not compatible" with my windows version, i give up | May 23 03:44 |
| XFaCE | [10:25:20 PM]<qu1j0t3> LOL {05/22/13 [10:16:57 PM]} | May 23 06:43 |
| XFaCE | [10:25:20 PM]<qu1j0t3> what a f***ing idiot {05/22/13 [10:17:01 PM]} | May 23 06:43 |
| XFaCE | [10:25:20 PM]<qu1j0t3> (Cameron) {05/22/13 [10:17:06 PM]} | May 23 06:43 |
| XFaCE | behold, the british harper | May 23 06:44 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Farhad Manjoo is doing Microsoft boosting agai | May 23 09:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2641899 | May 23 10:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There are laws by which to convict people who disseminate child porn. Going after the domains just lets the perverts wander elsewhere. | May 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz | "Wait, it affects children. Shouldn't we throw our rights away to Government when it involves children? We should start burning books and hunting down the FOSS community. Only Microsoft/AOL/ATT/Apple/Time-Warner can be trusted to govern information!" | May 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz | "Just another step in shutting everything down, and destroying wealth so we can't be 'uppity' or consume "their" resources." | May 23 10:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2642008 | May 23 10:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Deep State: Inside the Government Secrecy Industry http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/books/item/15454-book-review-deep-state-inside-the-government-secrecy-industry The #surveillance industrial complex | May 23 10:37 |
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| schestowitz | "meanwhile back in the UK, we have the centuries old Privy Council - revealing what is said there is an act of treason. Those who think that the monarch is just for show will be in for a nasty surprise if they understand it - and she - does.." | May 23 10:37 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yeah i saw his name the other day for the first time in years | May 23 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he used to write for Salon | May 23 16:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE | behold, the british harper // precisely | May 23 16:51 |
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| trmanco | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22624104 | May 23 18:20 |
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| Therac25 | lurl | May 23 18:21 |
| *Therac25 is now known as qu1j0t3 | May 23 18:33 | |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: also: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2013/05/23/canadian_politicians_fail_to_learn_lessons_from_richard_nixon.html | May 23 19:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Canadian politicians fail to learn lessons from Richard Nixon | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 72.59 KB | May 23 19:34 |
| eikonos | yeah, good stuff | May 23 19:34 |
| eikonos | most politicians will never admit they've made a mistake | May 23 19:35 |
| eikonos | so the coverup is about the only (tacit) admission we see of guilt | May 23 19:35 |
| eikonos | and the bigger the coverup, the bigger the guilt | May 23 19:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | sigh | May 23 19:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | ikr? | May 23 19:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | well | May 23 19:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | I don't see accountability looming, because the biggest crimes of my lifetime never met any. | May 23 19:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | time after time. | May 23 19:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | even Nixon never really met accountability | May 23 19:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | never | May 23 19:36 |
| eikonos | maybe it's not even guilt; maybe it's just a realization that people might be upset (for some unknown reason..) | May 23 19:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | it was just "move from this comfy chair to this comfy chair" | May 23 19:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: right, we are dealing with amoral people. | May 23 19:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://www.quora.com/Ken-Larson/Posts/Holder-We%E2%80%99ve-Droned-4-Americans-3-by-Accident-Oops | May 23 20:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Holder: We’ve Droned 4 Americans, 3 by Accident... - Posts - Quora .::. Size~: 52.87 KB | May 23 20:02 |
| eikonos | woops | May 23 20:58 |
| eikonos | finger slipped on the trigger | May 23 20:59 |
| MinceR | :> | May 23 20:59 |
| MinceR | http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2013/05/20/the-mad-strip-club-mister-morals-the-library | May 23 21:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: The MAD Strip Club — Mister Morals: The Library | Mad Magazine .::. Size~: 49.99 KB | May 23 21:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: Hint: They were brown americans. | May 23 21:07 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: "Sir! An Honest mistake sir! They were camouflaged as Terrorists sir!" | May 23 21:08 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/101062467 http://identi.ca/notice/101062340 | May 23 22:47 |
| TechrightsSocial | @estado de Pablo Sepúlveda (psep) en Thursday, 23-May-13 17:08:47 CLT - STAFF GNUCHILE: QT @schestowitz: Microsoft Violates Google Licences http://techrights.org/2013/05/23/google-licence-in-youtube/ | May 23 22:47 |
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| TechrightsSocial | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Thursday, 23-May-13 20:53:53 UTC - Identi.ca: #Skype Teaches Us That All #Microsoft Software Should be Assumed #Spyware Unless Proven Otherwise http://ur1.ca/e09ch #privacy | May 23 22:47 |
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| eikonos | qu1j0t3: http://twitter.com/sunlorrie/status/337687354410151938 | May 23 23:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | @sunlorrie: Credit Mike Filey, TO Sun: Mark Towhey was off to City Hall cafeteria and asked Mayor Ford "Can I bring you a Coke?" Haven't seen him since | May 23 23:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: aha | May 23 23:57 |
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