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| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: i'm going to lcbo to buy more booze. screw php | May 29 01:14 |
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| eikonos | haha | May 29 01:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: unravelling this stupid app is mission_impossible.php | May 29 01:15 |
| eikonos | LOL | May 29 01:16 |
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| qu1j0t3 | wat: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/05/28/northern_ireland_town_turns_into_virtual_potemkin_village_ahead_of_g8.html | May 29 02:59 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Northern Ireland town turns into virtual Potemkin village ahead of G8 | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 79.26 KB | May 29 02:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://boingboing.net/2013/05/28/toronto-cops-hospitalize-hotel.html | May 29 03:26 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Toronto cops hospitalize hotel guest who recorded them arresting another guest - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 82.71 KB | May 29 03:26 |
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| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/nanexllc/status/339571248952655873 | May 29 03:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | @nanexllc: Watch Frontline's Untouchables to the end to learn why DOJ never jailed any bankers. Warning: it will disgust you | May 29 03:53 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6858/125/ | May 29 06:22 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Michael Geist - The Canadian Link to Copyright Enforcement Spyware Tools .::. Size~: 62.68 KB | May 29 06:22 |
| XFaCE | also schestowitz | May 29 06:22 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130526/22281723217/fear-mongering-report-suggests-ip-theft-china-one-biggest-problems-america-faces.shtml | May 29 06:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Fear Mongering Report Suggests 'IP Theft From China' One Of The Biggest Problems America Faces | Techdirt .::. Size~: 101.73 KB | May 29 06:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/WEHI_Director/status/339603813012996096 | May 29 06:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @WEHI_Director: If you missed Bill Gates speaking about philanthropy etc on 730 last night, the video is well worth viewing http://t.co/98goz6R5ql | May 29 06:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Bill Gates calls for higher taxes, greater foreign aid - 28/05/2013 .::. Size~: 18.47 KB | May 29 06:30 |
| XFaCE | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130527/21352923220/dumb-idea-dumbest-idea-letting-companies-use-malware-against-infringers.shtml | May 29 06:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Dumb Idea Or Dumbest Idea: Letting Companies Use Malware Against Infringers | Techdirt .::. Size~: 166.94 KB | May 29 06:30 |
| MinceR | http://rt.com/usa/teacher-discipline-reminding-constitutional-rights-915/ | May 29 06:58 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Teacher facing discipline for reminding students of Constitutional rights — RT USA .::. Size~: 40.17 KB | May 29 06:58 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: good links, shared some.. | May 29 10:42 |
| schestowitz | NSFW http://dangerousminds.net/comments/just_another_ikea_catalog_ikea_furniture_in_amateur_porn_tumblr_nsfw | May 29 11:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Dangerous Minds | ‘Just Another IKEA Catalog’: IKEA furniture in amateur porn Tumblr (NSFW) .::. Size~: 29.76 KB | May 29 11:13 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > At the end of last year I wrote Swapnil at Muktware about avoiding | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > Suse. At the time I did not have many suggestions about alternate | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > distros. Recently, I recalled Mint and Mageia. I wrote him again | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > this weekend but have heard nothing back yet. I suppose Mint could | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > take the place of Ubuntu as a beginner-friendly distro. If things | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > get bad enough with Ubuntu, they can always switch further upstream | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | > and work directly from Debian. | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | I was thinking about Swapnil recently, only a few hours ago. I have | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | hardly seen any articles from his site recently, so I assume he's | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | ultra-busy or on vacation. | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | OpenSUSE is a very bad alternative to advocate; it's literally | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | subsidised by Microsoft to keep the patent tax on GNU/Linux going, | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | and by extension endorse doing the same to Android. | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Mint and Kubuntu are awesome! Now that Kubuntu is detached from | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Canonical (and occasionally criticises Canonical) I can use it happily | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | alongside my Debian desktop. | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | If we believe in the principles of Free software, I don't think | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | OpenSUSE promotion is commendable. I can still recall some | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | anti-Stallman/FSF smears emanating from the SUSE Forums. They're not | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | good flag-bearers. | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | CC Swapnil | May 29 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Grumpy cat smiles https://podmob.net/uploads/images/scaled_full_b0dce8adbeb27f38327e.gif | May 29 12:59 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | May 29 12:59 |
| schestowitz | http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-25/local/39517269_1_annapolis-nsa-army-air-forces | May 29 13:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Donald C. Burkness, NSA electrical engineer - Washington Post .::. Size~: 93.39 KB | May 29 13:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/101108257 | May 29 15:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Perry Garner (perrygarner331)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-13 10:54:59 UTC - Identi.ca: What a benign report on probably the most serious threat to global food security and farmer's well-being. | May 29 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Gina Rinehart Calls For Sterilization of The Poor http://dailycurrant.com/2013/05/28/gina-rinehart-calls-for-sterilization-of-the-poor/ | May 29 15:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Gina Rinehart Calls For Sterilization of The Poor - The Daily Currant .::. Size~: 153.39 KB | May 29 15:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wral.com/melinda-gates-to-speak-at-duke-graduation/12436975/ | May 29 16:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Melinda Gates to Duke grads: 'Connect with the world' :: WRAL.com .::. Size~: 74.21 KB | May 29 16:01 |
| schestowitz | What are her credentials in edu? | May 29 16:01 |
| schestowitz | What a load of PR nonsense http://www.heraldsun.com/news/x1592157733/Gates-Tech-just-tool-for-making-human-connections | May 29 16:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Gates: Tech just tool for making human connections | The Herald-Sun .::. Size~: 64.39 KB | May 29 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Good foe her lobbying ambitions http://www.heraldsun.com/news/x1592157733/Gates-Tech-just-tool-for-making-human-connections | May 29 16:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Gates: Tech just tool for making human connections | The Herald-Sun .::. Size~: 64.39 KB | May 29 16:01 |
| schestowitz | CBS pretends there are two Gateses | May 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | 57584009 | May 29 16:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | wat | May 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/research-innovations/stories/bill-gates-20-from-microsoft-founder-to-disease-eradicator | May 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57584009/bill-gates-2.0/ | May 29 16:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | Gates: "Tech is a tool for stealing money." | May 29 16:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates 2.0: From Microsoft founder to disease eradicator | MNN - Mother Nature Network .::. Size~: 85.05 KB | May 29 16:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates 2.0 - CBS News .::. Size~: 92.99 KB | May 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | From crime at Microsoft to monoppolising research | May 29 16:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | ugh | May 29 16:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | exactly | May 29 16:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | "THe metamorphosis of a thug" | May 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | I don't know of CBS funding of his | May 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Is Oprah CBS? | May 29 16:02 |
| schestowitz | He did pay PBS and NPR | May 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Not sure about CBS | May 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | But this is trend-settign MSM | May 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Charlie Rose lid today about the latest Obama assassination | May 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | i accidentally pressed on a CBS link | May 29 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Here too he is invollved | May 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/bill-gates-60-minutes/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget | May 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Charlie Rose interviews 'Bill Gates 2.0' on 60 Minutes: the man after Microsoft .::. Size~: 30.02 KB | May 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz | He basically whitewashed CIA strike in .pk | May 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Seeding positive press under controlled enviornment with Rose | May 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/13/bill-gates-steve-jobs_n_3266268.html?utm_hp_ref=technology | May 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates On Steve Jobs: Despite Stiffing Him On Dinner, Microsoft Co-Founder Remembers Rival Warmly .::. Size~: 376.51 KB | May 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://gadgets.ndtv.com/others/news/bill-gates-on-steve-jobs-and-how-apple-not-microsoft-got-tablets-right-366328 | May 29 16:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates on Steve Jobs and how Apple, not Microsoft, got tablets right | NDTV Gadgets .::. Size~: 72.95 KB | May 29 16:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.slashgear.com/bill-gates-reflects-steve-jobs-old-rivalries-and-foundation-future-13281699/ | May 29 16:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates reflects: Steve Jobs, old rivalries, and Foundation future - SlashGear .::. Size~: 44.97 KB | May 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Melindda helps him lobby schools | May 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/13/melinda-gates-duke-commencement_n_3266640.html | May 29 16:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Melinda Gates At Duke Commencement: 'Reject The Cynics' Who Label Your Generation (VIDEO) .::. Size~: 210.16 KB | May 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | remember her husband never graduated from college | May 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.christianpost.com/news/bill-gates-on-steve-jobs-microsoft-founder-tears-up-remembering-longtime-rival-video-95826/ | May 29 16:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates on Steve Jobs: Microsoft Founder Tears Up Remembering Longtime Rival (VIDEO) .::. Size~: 66.31 KB | May 29 16:05 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326054/Bill-Gates-worlds-richest-man-time-2007-personal-fortune-72-7BILLION.html | May 29 16:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Bill Gates is the world's richest man for first time since 2007 with a personal fortune of $72.7BILLION | Mail Online .::. Size~: 215.52 KB | May 29 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Don't heckle him, he knows how to steal money | May 29 16:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: tweets | May 29 16:09 |
| schestowitz | While being portrayed as one giving it away | May 29 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Most walth is now "mos generous" | May 29 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Nice lie if you can pass it, and he does | May 29 16:10 |
| schestowitz | He hired some of the best PR people, with connections in the media and strategies for derailing public opinion | May 29 16:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | and it's working | May 29 16:10 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: post a link when you've dented/tweeted | May 29 16:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's impossible to criticise him in public places any more | May 29 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Bill is a good teacher | May 29 16:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/339758951560269824 + https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/339759149376221184 | May 29 16:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: Gates 1.0: "Technology is an awesome tool for stealing your money." | May 29 16:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: Gates 2.0: "Still stealing your money, but now I can pay media to paint me as a saint." | May 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | He taught me you can commit ythe most henous crime and provided you're rich, you might be able to come off as a Saint, like the Mafia Don and the food kicthens/shelter | May 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: LOL | May 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | True, true | May 29 16:11 |
| schestowitz | > I am on vacation to India for a month. Will be back in June...kubintu | May 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > and mint are on super priority and will increase focus on them. | May 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | > Excellent! They are good distros. Enjoy your vacation and good luck | May 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | > with GooglePlay and such things. | May 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2665399 | May 29 16:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk state media said "Cuba to offer public internet access" but editor changed headline to "Cuba 'to offer' limited public internet access" | May 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | " | May 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, well. Charging for slow Internet access by the hour is pretty limiting, and is not much of an offer. | May 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22696637 | May 29 16:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: BBC News - Cuba 'to offer' limited public internet access .::. Size~: 78.75 KB | May 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | " | May 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the US can ease the siege and remove the embargo to stop the collective punishment then | May 29 16:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/i/redirect?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FCandidCanon%2Fstatus%2F339775023281750016%3Frefsrc%3Demail&sig=0bb7d4093442e28d0bdfc5fdc5b65b58ca4dd408&uid=26603208&iid=711c1c94-c51b-4eff-8bae-58e81433d7f6&nid=27+236&t=1 | May 29 17:39 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: NO TITLE .::. Size~: 0.24 KB | May 29 17:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CandidCanon/status/339775023281750016?refsrc=email | May 29 17:39 |
| TechrightsSocial | @CandidCanon: @schestowitz Ah, I see the point now! Yes, they bid Pi. It was a shill bid, in my opinion. Drove up the price, and then walked away, lol! | May 29 17:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2664856 | May 29 18:10 |
| TechrightsSocial | @j4v4m4n@joindiaspora.com: On basic income: Do you think about some people getting lots of money just because their parents are rich? Why not every one get a basic income? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income_guarantee #basicincome #india #economics | May 29 18:10 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Basic income guarantee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 145.3 KB | May 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz | "we are the same in Canada, we have the most valued natural resources on the planet, our government, banks, and corporations flourish, while our people are poor! it's NOT acceptable :)" | May 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2665399 | May 29 18:10 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk state media said "Cuba to offer public internet access" but editor changed headline to "Cuba 'to offer' limited public internet access" | May 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz | " | May 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz | The embargo is not stopping them from offering reasonable Internet access. | May 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz | I wish the US would lift the embargo. I just don't see how it's relavent to this situation. | May 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz | " | May 29 18:10 |
| eikonos | i had an odd experience in cuba. met a woman who spoke english and french perfectly, and she said she hated the govt, wanted to leave, but couldn't | May 29 18:16 |
| eikonos | and she'd been put in a mental hospital a couple times | May 29 18:16 |
| eikonos | she gave me her address, email, etc | May 29 18:16 |
| eikonos | all pre-written on a little scrap of paper | May 29 18:16 |
| eikonos | but the weird bit was that she said she wouldn't reply to email | May 29 18:16 |
| eikonos | because she couldn't or whatever... | May 29 18:16 |
| eikonos | and later we spoke with someone else who said it cost like $6 CUC an hour to use a computer at a web cafe | May 29 18:17 |
| eikonos | which is a lot of money, esp for a cuban | May 29 18:17 |
| eikonos | so how could she possibly afford to check email on the internet? | May 29 18:17 |
| eikonos | also, it was odd that she was just out in the street telling people she was unhappy | May 29 18:18 |
| eikonos | i met her again later with my friends and we all got into a discussion about it | May 29 18:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2645574 | May 29 18:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To me, the principal reason for boycotting #GMO is not health but justice; the idea behind GMO is genetically-monopolised food. | May 29 18:21 |
| schestowitz | "@dysphoria knows what goin on here. How do people not seem to see this?" | May 29 18:22 |
| schestowitz | " | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | I agree with the good Doctor's diagnosis. :) | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | The banksters have corrupted the economy by controlling the currency and the banks. It is the root of all evil in the sense that it is the means by which evil has amassed enormous power. Our use of dollars unwittingly gives energy to evil. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Money is an agreement, an idea, pure information, not tangible, not a physical thing. Currency is a symbol of exchange. What kind of information does it convey? Information about claims on economic productivity. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Under the Federal Reserve system, money is created out of thin air simply by writing on a ledger. This authority is so powerful it is one of the primary reasons for war. This fact is omitted from media publications because the bankers own nearly all the media publications! If you are reading this in an unaltered text, you have a small niche which has miraculously managed to elude their control. Anyway, this fiat currency is | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | issued almost exclusively through loans, i.e. debt. An honest debt is not necessarily amoral. However, one aspect of this that is particularly insidious is that "interest" is charged on these debts, and the money to pay back that interest is not created except through other loans! Thus it is mathematically impossible to ever get out of debt except by default or bankruptcy. It is "usury". It is indentured servitude. It is debt | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | slavery. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Someone is guaranteed to go bankrupt and not necessarily due to inefficiency of business or irresponsibility. In this case, "nice guys finish last", so it is a system that punishes good behavior rather than reward it. It is literally a game of musical chairs. This makes it your job to distance yourself from others, and scramble to avoid being the one who's left out. It gives people implied permission to leave others out, and | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | this breeds callousness. There is an excess of competition and a serious lack of cooperation. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | This system is profoundly evil to the extent that it corrupts our behavior. Most people are unaware of this because they don't understand how money works. And why would they? It's not taught in the schools since these are financed by this money system! | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Money is kept scarce by market competition to acquire money for interest payments. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | This scarcity is the cause of economic recessions and depressions. There is no work done or economic trade when there is no money to facilitate this exchange. During the great depression, there were plenty of willing workers and goods for sale, but no paid jobs, and no sales made because there was no money. We have the work & the workers, what's missing? The currency! This is the so called "credit crisis". In a properly run | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | monetary system there is no scarcity of money liquidity. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | "Complementary currencies" are any agreed upon medium of exchange, other than national currency. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Local currency is issued at the time that it is backed by goods and services in the community. Companies advertises in currency directory, Companies sign a statement to honor and endorse the currency, to agree to back the issuing of the currency in whole or in part with the goods and services offered by the company. In this way the currency becomes "backed". | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | A credit system allows for a negative balance, thus creation of currency through credit. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | One interesting system is a mutual time-exchange, or mutual credit system. A trade or sale generates a credit to one party offset by a debit to the other party, with a net zero-sum. A debit means that I owe something to the community. A credit means that the community owes something to me. In this case a zero balance is ideal. A temporary account imbalance is permitted, and there is a tendency toward long-term balance. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | This sort of economic system is functional, sustainable, moral and ethical. The network provides security of a social nature, a sense of community, economic productivity, a cooperative, supportive, a different experience, a shift in consciousness. It is a social safety-net, with relationship-based economic activity and trade. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | There are over 1000 community economies worldwide. | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | " | May 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | this guy gets a lot of pussy https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2665542 | May 29 18:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | @supertux@nerdpol.ch: Awww :) #kletterberg :)  #cat #catcontent #cute :) | May 29 18:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 29 18:33 |
| MinceR | kitten armor! | May 29 18:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/binarybits/status/338346855928848385 | May 29 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | @binarybits: The Prenda story keeps getting weirder. Details about Alan Cooper's allegedly deteriorating mental state on pp. 7-9. http://t.co/iM3kpL50yp | May 29 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting application/pdf type | May 29 18:46 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: every time you punch this guy a kitten sies | May 29 18:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/survival/tips/how-to-escape-a-submerged-car-15510924?src=soc_fcbks | May 29 18:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: How to Escape a Submerged Car - Popular Mechanics .::. Size~: 66.03 KB | May 29 18:51 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQkZ2CV3Fb0&feature=player_embedded | May 29 19:45 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Apple Promises To Fix Glitches In Map Software By Rearranging Earth's Geography - YouTube .::. Size~: 205.95 KB | May 29 19:45 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: | May 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130528/02012623226/jaron-laniers-ignorance-history-basic-economics-efficiency-is-getting-ridiculous.shtml | May 29 19:52 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Jaron Lanier's Ignorance Of History, Basic Economics And Efficiency Is Getting Ridiculous | Techdirt .::. Size~: 156.07 KB | May 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | makes the points I was making | May 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | citing Slate | May 29 19:52 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: " The Kodak/Instagram comparison comes up over and over again, and it's moronic. It makes no sense. To demonstrate, let's take something else that's old and something else that's modern that sorta-kinda seems similar, and compare the two: Very, very, very few people make money "auctioning" goods via Christie's. Yet, a few years ago, eBay noted that 724,000 Americans made their primary or secondary incomes from eBay | May 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | sales, with another 1.5 million supplementing their income. In the simplistic world of Jaron Lanier, this should be proof that eBay is good, and Christie's is bad, right? But, of course that's silly. " | May 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | "Let's start with Lanier's interview with fellow hater of the internet, Scott Timberg, at Salon, in which Lanier trots out this catchy line that is so braindead it made me wonder why Salon would sully its reputation by publishing something so easily proven stupid.." | May 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | See? | May 29 19:54 |
| schestowitz | it's not just me saying so.. | May 29 19:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | but nobody is attacking his argument. | May 29 19:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | only this example | May 29 19:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | fine, remove the example, then deal with the argument :) | May 29 19:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | the middle class is indeed faced with mcjobs with no security or benefits | May 29 19:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | starting with the creative classes | May 29 19:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | naturally lanier will get some blowback from the technocracy | May 29 19:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | he's saying the emperor has no clothes :) | May 29 19:57 |
| eikonos | maybe they should become economists.. it apparently requires no training or real-world experience :P | May 29 19:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am not saying lanier is 100% right, but he's certainly not 100% wrong. | May 29 19:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | and he's not entirely wrong in his earlier book either (which i read) | May 29 19:58 |
| eikonos | if a musician should get paid every time their song plays on the radio, why don't i get paid every time someone runs one of my old software programs? | May 29 20:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | the musicians aren't making a mint either. | May 29 20:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: there is a model that works | May 29 20:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, the ideal spot for a programmer is "paid to write open source'. | May 29 20:01 |
| eikonos | i don't think we owe musicians a living in that particular way | May 29 20:01 |
| eikonos | i am happy to pay musicians i like because i want to encourage them to continue | May 29 20:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | we aren't really supporting the musician that way anyway. | May 29 20:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | we're supporting the corporate tollbooth :) | May 29 20:02 |
| eikonos | yeah | May 29 20:02 |
| eikonos | exactly | May 29 20:02 |
| eikonos | and it's not a phantom tollbooth | May 29 20:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | which is a capitalistic argument, they own the means of production, & communication :) | May 29 20:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: REMEMBER THEY ARE CREATING JOBS FOR OTHERWISE SOCIALLY USELESS LOONG-HAIRED DOPE SMOKERS | May 29 20:03 |
| eikonos | haha | May 29 20:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2664797 | May 29 20:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Encrypted IM app #Threema now available for #Android http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Encrypted-IM-app-Threema-now-available-for-Android-1872092.html | May 29 20:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Encrypted IM app Threema now available for Android - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 54.48 KB | May 29 20:04 |
| schestowitz | "#Gibberbot supports encryption too." | May 29 20:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: eikonos Ford is going full Enron... see tweets | May 29 20:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | pics were put about of a huge bag of shredded dox in his office | May 29 20:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | a few days ago | May 29 20:18 |
| qu1j0t3 | and now he's apparently ordered electronic documents destroyed :) | May 29 20:18 |
| eikonos | at what point do the police step in? | May 29 20:19 |
| qu1j0t3 | "Maybe about now" ? | May 29 20:19 |
| schestowitz | no more gov subsidies for US car makers? | May 29 20:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: good start | May 29 20:20 |
| schestowitz | to artificially create the illusion of capitalism working in the US? Are they still trying to impress the USSR and win hearts and minds? | May 29 20:20 |
| *qu1j0t3 goes out 4 burrito | May 29 20:20 | |
| schestowitz | Raegan almost took the country into insolvency this way | May 29 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Funding athletes and propping up the army... | May 29 20:21 |
| eikonos | what's the difference between economics and astrology? | May 29 20:22 |
| schestowitz | the former is more glorified | May 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | you seek to justify a system by making awards, paying high wages, and speaking the same lingo | May 29 20:23 |
| schestowitz | pretending economics is a science rather than a religion | May 29 20:23 |
| eikonos | greenspan would be more reliable with a crystal ball and a deck of cards | May 29 20:23 |
| eikonos | "uh.. pluto is in the house of aquarius, so it's a good time to invest in natural resources.." | May 29 20:24 |
| eikonos | maybe we can say that economics is a non-deterministic science ;) | May 29 20:29 |
| eikonos | i'm all for evidence-based policy, and pseudo-science does not constitute evidence | May 29 20:30 |
| schestowitz | LOL https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6luLlRimlFg/UaUOSigfTsI/AAAAAAABB1c/SRyHuUnkmuI/w380-h177-no/B76946D0-7A51-476D-A229-75EB4EB7EC5B.GIF | May 29 20:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | May 29 20:40 |
| schestowitz | eikonos: lol | May 29 20:40 |
| eikonos | it's a cat-herder! | May 29 20:40 |
| schestowitz | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o4PbZ0h8M38/UaWpQGh7YMI/AAAAAAAATJY/g5Mrjk4ktGg/w500-h281-no/%2525D0%25259F%2525D0%2525BE%2525D0%2525BF%2525D1%252583%2525D0%2525B3%2525D0%2525B0%2525D0%2525B9+%2525D0%2525B4%2525D0%2525BE%2525D1%252581%2525D1%252582%2525D0%2525B0%2525D0%2525B5%2525D1%252582+%2525D0%2525BA%2525D0%2525BE%2525D1%252582%2525D0%2525B0.gif | May 29 20:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type | May 29 20:41 |
| MinceR | :) | May 29 20:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_5f77b0e41d1f9cad4b38.gif | May 29 20:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting application/octet-stream type | May 29 20:42 |
| *abeNd-org (~Keith@76.0.113.137) has joined #boycottnovell-social | May 29 20:46 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2666006 | May 29 21:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In Denmark, Online Tracking of Citizens is an Unwieldy Failure http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/23918/denmark-government-will-not-allow-ordinary-citizens-have-digital-privacy #denmark #privacy | May 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | "Now, if the US government would just develop the ability to learn from the mistakes of others . . . . (Greece, UK, hint - hint)" | May 29 21:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: In Denmark, Online Tracking of Citizens is an Unwieldy Failure | TechPresident .::. Size~: 58.18 KB | May 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2664710 | May 29 21:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Alternatives of 13 Most Commonly Used Windows Applications for Linux http://www.tecmint.com/windows-alternatives-for-linux/ #gnu #linux #windows #microsoft | May 29 21:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Alternatives of 13 Most Commonly Used Windows Applications for Linux .::. Size~: 61.4 KB | May 29 21:09 |
| schestowitz | "Nice list. For text editors, I would make one addition. Check out #SciTe http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html Its a great editor." | May 29 21:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Scintilla and SciTE .::. Size~: 7.81 KB | May 29 21:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | "4:45 p.m. | May 29 21:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | Bill heads down to a private room in the basement to get his hair and makeup done. A device that Ailes had installed in every green room in the building methodically sucks the life force out of five adorable baby puppies and deposits it into Bill’s face, keeping him fresh and youthful-looking for one more day. | May 29 21:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.salon.com/2013/05/29/i_was_a_liberal_mole_at_fox_news_from_bill_oreilly_to_roger_ailes_heres_all_the_inside_dope/ | May 29 21:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: I was a liberal mole at Fox News: From Bill O’Reilly to Roger Ailes, here’s all the inside dope - Salon.com .::. Size~: 180.53 KB | May 29 21:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | In 1998, the Harris government forced a shotgun wedding on Toronto and five surrounding suburbs, in spite of local referendum results opposing the move more than three to one. | May 29 21:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | Not a single municipality affected was in favour of the merger, and all but one joined a legal challenge opposing it. The amalgamation bill was rammed through the Ontario legislature in one of the most bitterly contested battles in provincial history with opposition parties tabling 13,000 amendments over a two-week period in an ultimately futile filibuster. | May 29 21:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2013/05/29/how_the_rob_ford_crack_scandal_could_save_toronto.html | May 29 21:38 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: How the Rob Ford crack scandal could save Toronto | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 76.77 KB | May 29 21:39 |
| eikonos | some people want amalgamation here | May 29 21:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/CraigSilverman/status/339850121825116161 | May 29 22:10 |
| TechrightsSocial | @CraigSilverman: Great fact check piece: "Doug Ford says critics ‘can’t go after our fiscal record’ – challenge accepted" http://t.co/FWMP6hLWNU | May 29 22:10 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Doug Ford says critics ‘can’t go after our fiscal record’ – challenge accepted | Metro .::. Size~: 82.46 KB | May 29 22:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2666006 | May 29 22:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In Denmark, Online Tracking of Citizens is an Unwieldy Failure http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/23918/denmark-government-will-not-allow-ordinary-citizens-have-digital-privacy #denmark #privacy | May 29 22:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: In Denmark, Online Tracking of Citizens is an Unwieldy Failure | TechPresident .::. Size~: 58.32 KB | May 29 22:23 |
| schestowitz | "This is what tyranny is about. In better times, police solved crimes. Now they are trying to solve crimes that haven't been committed. Surely now everyone can sympathise (ironically meant) with the Stalin's intelligence services running around trying to find people who might be planning crimes... I don't know how this is going to end - but if brighter heads don't stop cowering in the corner but come out and speak up, this | May 29 22:23 |
| schestowitz | will end up in tragedy and bloodshed." | May 29 22:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | not just Stalin's. | May 29 22:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | every fascist state's. | May 29 22:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | i must have read accounts of at least 10 20thC fascist states, all employ identical methods. | May 29 22:30 |
| eikonos | it would be a bit more visceral if the NSA had jars of samples of your fluids, etc... | May 29 22:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | All define thoughtcrime; all kidnap; all torture; all detain without charge; all disappear citizens. Including USA. | May 29 22:30 |
| eikonos | whatever the east germans did | May 29 22:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | Stasi. | May 29 22:30 |
| eikonos | yeah | May 29 22:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | but there were at least two dozen others who did the same thing | May 29 22:31 |
| *eikonos nods | May 29 22:31 | |
| qu1j0t3 | in 20th C | May 29 22:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | French in Algeria | May 29 22:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | dozens of them in South America | May 29 22:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | Italy | May 29 22:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | Greece | May 29 22:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | the book "The Politics of Cruelty" is a good summary. | May 29 22:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | oh, East Timor; supported by Australia. | May 29 22:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | an under-appreciated example | May 29 22:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | Belarus, Uzbekistan, and another few dozen current banana republics. | May 29 22:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | another dozen African banana republics as of now, incl Zimbabwe | May 29 22:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Georgia | May 29 22:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Chechnya | May 29 22:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Pakistan | May 29 22:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | Burma ofc | May 29 22:35 |
| eikonos | qu1j0t3: http://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/339829658747039746 | May 29 23:42 |
| TechrightsSocial | @JustinTrudeau: Sad to hear of Dr. Henry Morgentaler's death. A crusader for women's reproductive freedom, his contributions will be remembered. #CdnPoli | May 29 23:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | eikonos: you need to make a joke account called JestinTrudeau, or TrudeauInJest | May 29 23:43 |
| eikonos | with a photoshop of justin beiber's hair on trudeau's face for the profile pic? | May 29 23:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | haha | May 29 23:45 |
| qu1j0t3 | not bad | May 29 23:45 |
| eikonos | i don't know enough about trudeau to sustain it | May 29 23:46 |
| eikonos | plus i'm largely indifferent to him | May 29 23:46 |
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