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qu1j0t3eikonos: i'm going to lcbo to buy more booze. screw php May 29 01:14
eikonoshahaMay 29 01:15
qu1j0t3eikonos: unravelling this stupid app is mission_impossible.phpMay 29 01:15
eikonosLOLMay 29 01:16
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TechrightsSocialTitle: Northern Ireland town turns into virtual Potemkin village ahead of G8 | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 79.26 KBMay 29 02:59
qu1j0t3 29 03:26
TechrightsSocialTitle: Toronto cops hospitalize hotel guest who recorded them arresting another guest - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 82.71 KBMay 29 03:26
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qu1j0t3 29 03:53
TechrightsSocial@nanexllc: Watch Frontline's Untouchables to the end to learn why DOJ never jailed any bankers. Warning: it will disgust youMay 29 03:53
XFaCEqu1j0t3: 29 06:22
TechrightsSocialTitle: Michael Geist - The Canadian Link to Copyright Enforcement Spyware Tools .::. Size~: 62.68 KBMay 29 06:22
XFaCEalso schestowitz May 29 06:22
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TechrightsSocialTitle: Fear Mongering Report Suggests 'IP Theft From China' One Of The Biggest Problems America Faces | Techdirt .::. Size~: 101.73 KBMay 29 06:29
qu1j0t3 29 06:29
TechrightsSocial@WEHI_Director: If you missed Bill Gates speaking about philanthropy etc on 730 last night, the video is well worth viewing 29 06:30
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Bill Gates calls for higher taxes, greater foreign aid - 28/05/2013 .::. Size~: 18.47 KBMay 29 06:30
XFaCE 29 06:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: Dumb Idea Or Dumbest Idea: Letting Companies Use Malware Against Infringers | Techdirt .::. Size~: 166.94 KBMay 29 06:30
MinceR 29 06:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: Teacher facing discipline for reminding students of Constitutional rights — RT USA .::. Size~: 40.17 KBMay 29 06:58
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: good links, shared some..May 29 10:42
schestowitzNSFW 29 11:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: Dangerous Minds  |  ‘Just Another IKEA Catalog’: IKEA furniture in amateur porn Tumblr (NSFW) .::. Size~: 29.76 KBMay 29 11:13
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,May 29 11:39
schestowitz> May 29 11:39
schestowitz> At the end of last year I wrote Swapnil at Muktware about avoidingMay 29 11:39
schestowitz> Suse. At the time I did not have many suggestions about alternateMay 29 11:39
schestowitz> distros. Recently, I recalled Mint and Mageia.  I wrote him againMay 29 11:39
schestowitz> this weekend but have heard nothing back yet.  I suppose Mint couldMay 29 11:39
schestowitz> take the place of Ubuntu as a beginner-friendly distro.  If thingsMay 29 11:39
schestowitz> get bad enough with Ubuntu, they can always switch further upstreamMay 29 11:39
schestowitz> and work directly from Debian.May 29 11:39
schestowitzI was thinking about Swapnil recently, only a few hours ago. I haveMay 29 11:39
schestowitzhardly seen any articles from his site recently, so I assume he'sMay 29 11:39
schestowitzultra-busy or on vacation.May 29 11:39
schestowitzOpenSUSE is a very bad alternative to advocate; it's literallyMay 29 11:39
schestowitzsubsidised by Microsoft to keep the patent tax on GNU/Linux going,May 29 11:39
schestowitzand by extension endorse doing the same to Android.May 29 11:39
schestowitzMint and Kubuntu are awesome! Now that Kubuntu is detached fromMay 29 11:39
schestowitzCanonical (and occasionally criticises Canonical) I can use it happilyMay 29 11:39
schestowitzalongside my Debian desktop.May 29 11:39
schestowitzIf we believe in the principles of Free software, I don't thinkMay 29 11:39
schestowitzOpenSUSE promotion is commendable. I can still recall someMay 29 11:39
schestowitzanti-Stallman/FSF smears emanating from the SUSE Forums. They're notMay 29 11:39
schestowitzgood flag-bearers.May 29 11:39
schestowitzCC SwapnilMay 29 11:39
schestowitzGrumpy cat smiles 29 12:59
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schestowitz 29 13:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: Donald C. Burkness, NSA electrical engineer - Washington Post .::. Size~: 93.39 KBMay 29 13:02
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schestowitz 29 15:18
TechrightsSocial@Perry Garner (perrygarner331)'s status on Tuesday, 28-May-13 10:54:59 UTC - What a benign report on probably the most serious threat to global food security and farmer's well-being.May 29 15:18
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: Gina Rinehart Calls For Sterilization of The Poor 29 15:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gina Rinehart Calls For Sterilization of The Poor - The Daily Currant .::. Size~: 153.39 KBMay 29 15:41
schestowitz 29 16:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Melinda Gates to Duke grads: 'Connect with the world' :: .::. Size~: 74.21 KBMay 29 16:01
schestowitzWhat are her credentials in edu?May 29 16:01
schestowitzWhat a load of PR nonsense 29 16:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gates: Tech just tool for making human connections | The Herald-Sun .::. Size~: 64.39 KBMay 29 16:01
schestowitzGood foe her lobbying ambitions 29 16:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gates: Tech just tool for making human connections | The Herald-Sun .::. Size~: 64.39 KBMay 29 16:01
schestowitzCBS pretends there are two GatesesMay 29 16:02
schestowitz57584009May 29 16:02
qu1j0t3watMay 29 16:02
schestowitz 29 16:02
schestowitz 29 16:02
qu1j0t3Gates: "Tech is a tool for stealing money."May 29 16:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates 2.0: From Microsoft founder to disease eradicator | MNN - Mother Nature Network .::. Size~: 85.05 KBMay 29 16:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates 2.0 - CBS News .::. Size~: 92.99 KBMay 29 16:02
schestowitzFrom crime at Microsoft to monoppolising researchMay 29 16:02
qu1j0t3ughMay 29 16:02
qu1j0t3exactlyMay 29 16:02
qu1j0t3"THe metamorphosis of a thug"May 29 16:02
schestowitzI don't know of CBS funding of hisMay 29 16:02
schestowitzIs Oprah CBS?May 29 16:02
schestowitzHe did pay PBS and NPRMay 29 16:03
schestowitzNot sure about CBSMay 29 16:03
schestowitzBut this is trend-settign MSMMay 29 16:03
schestowitzCharlie Rose lid today about the latest Obama assassinationMay 29 16:03
schestowitzi accidentally pressed on a CBS linkMay 29 16:03
schestowitzHere too he is invollvedMay 29 16:04
schestowitz 29 16:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Charlie Rose interviews 'Bill Gates 2.0' on 60 Minutes: the man after Microsoft .::. Size~: 30.02 KBMay 29 16:04
schestowitzHe basically whitewashed CIA strike in .pkMay 29 16:04
schestowitzSeeding positive press under controlled enviornment with RoseMay 29 16:04
schestowitz 29 16:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates On Steve Jobs: Despite Stiffing Him On Dinner, Microsoft Co-Founder Remembers Rival Warmly .::. Size~: 376.51 KBMay 29 16:04
schestowitz 29 16:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates on Steve Jobs and how Apple, not Microsoft, got tablets right | NDTV Gadgets .::. Size~: 72.95 KBMay 29 16:04
schestowitz 29 16:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates reflects: Steve Jobs, old rivalries, and Foundation future - SlashGear .::. Size~: 44.97 KBMay 29 16:05
schestowitzMelindda helps him lobby schoolsMay 29 16:05
schestowitz 29 16:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Melinda Gates At Duke Commencement: 'Reject The Cynics' Who Label Your Generation (VIDEO) .::. Size~: 210.16 KBMay 29 16:05
schestowitzremember her husband never graduated from collegeMay 29 16:05
schestowitz 29 16:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates on Steve Jobs: Microsoft Founder Tears Up Remembering Longtime Rival (VIDEO) .::. Size~: 66.31 KBMay 29 16:05
schestowitzqu1j0t3: 29 16:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bill Gates is the world's richest man for first time since 2007 with a personal fortune of $72.7BILLION  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 215.52 KBMay 29 16:09
schestowitzDon't heckle him, he knows how to steal moneyMay 29 16:09
qu1j0t3schestowitz: tweetsMay 29 16:09
schestowitzWhile being portrayed as one giving it awayMay 29 16:09
schestowitzMost walth is now "mos generous"May 29 16:09
schestowitzNice lie if you can pass it, and he doesMay 29 16:10
schestowitzHe hired some of the best PR people, with connections in the media and strategies for derailing public opinionMay 29 16:10
qu1j0t3and it's workingMay 29 16:10
schestowitzqu1j0t3: post a link when you've dented/tweetedMay 29 16:10
qu1j0t3it's impossible to criticise him in public places any moreMay 29 16:10
schestowitzBill is a good teacherMay 29 16:10
qu1j0t3 + 29 16:11
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Gates 1.0: "Technology is an awesome tool for stealing your money."May 29 16:11
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Gates 2.0: "Still stealing your money, but now I can pay media to paint me as a saint."May 29 16:11
schestowitzHe taught me you can commit ythe most henous crime and provided you're rich, you might be able to come off as a Saint, like the Mafia Don and the food kicthens/shelterMay 29 16:11
schestowitzqu1j0t3: LOLMay 29 16:11
schestowitzTrue, trueMay 29 16:11
schestowitz> I am on vacation to India for a month. Will be back in June...kubintuMay 29 16:24
schestowitz> and mint are on super priority and will increase focus on them.May 29 16:24
schestowitz> Excellent! They are good distros.  Enjoy your vacation and good luckMay 29 16:25
schestowitz> with GooglePlay and such things.May 29 16:25
schestowitz 29 16:53 #uk state media said "Cuba to offer public internet access" but editor changed headline to "Cuba 'to offer' limited public internet access"May 29 16:53
schestowitz"May 29 16:53
schestowitzYeah, well. Charging for slow Internet access by the hour is pretty limiting, and is not much of an offer.May 29 16:53
schestowitz 29 16:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: BBC News - Cuba 'to offer' limited public internet access .::. Size~: 78.75 KBMay 29 16:53
schestowitz"May 29 16:53
schestowitzMaybe the US can ease the siege and remove the embargo to stop the collective punishment thenMay 29 16:53
schestowitz 29 17:39
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TechrightsSocial@CandidCanon: @schestowitz Ah, I see the point now!  Yes, they bid Pi.  It was a shill bid, in my opinion.  Drove up the price, and then walked away, lol!May 29 17:39
schestowitz 29 18:10 On basic income: Do you think about some people getting lots of money just because their parents are rich? Why not every one get a basic income? #basicincome #india #economicsMay 29 18:10
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Basic income guarantee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 145.3 KBMay 29 18:10
schestowitz"we are the same in Canada, we have the most valued natural resources on the planet, our government, banks, and corporations flourish, while our people are poor! it's NOT acceptable :)"May 29 18:10
schestowitz 29 18:10 #uk state media said "Cuba to offer public internet access" but editor changed headline to "Cuba 'to offer' limited public internet access"May 29 18:10
schestowitz"May 29 18:10
schestowitzThe embargo is not stopping them from offering reasonable Internet access.May 29 18:10
schestowitzI wish the US would lift the embargo. I just don't see how it's relavent to this situation.May 29 18:10
schestowitz"May 29 18:10
eikonosi had an odd experience in cuba. met a woman who spoke english and french perfectly, and she said she hated the govt, wanted to leave, but couldn'tMay 29 18:16
eikonosand she'd been put in a mental hospital a couple timesMay 29 18:16
eikonosshe gave me her address, email, etcMay 29 18:16
eikonosall pre-written on a little scrap of paperMay 29 18:16
eikonosbut the weird bit was that she said she wouldn't reply to emailMay 29 18:16
eikonosbecause she couldn't or whatever...May 29 18:16
eikonosand later we spoke with someone else who said it cost like $6 CUC an hour to use a computer at a web cafeMay 29 18:17
eikonoswhich is a lot of money, esp for a cubanMay 29 18:17
eikonosso how could she possibly afford to check email on the internet?May 29 18:17
eikonosalso, it was odd that she was just out in the street telling people she was unhappyMay 29 18:18
eikonosi met her again later with my friends and we all got into a discussion about itMay 29 18:18
schestowitz 29 18:21 To me, the principal reason for boycotting #GMO is not health but justice; the idea behind GMO is genetically-monopolised food.May 29 18:21
schestowitz"@dysphoria knows what goin on here. How do people not seem to see this?"May 29 18:22
schestowitz"May 29 18:26
schestowitzI agree with the good Doctor's diagnosis. :)May 29 18:26
schestowitzThe banksters have corrupted the economy by controlling the currency and the banks. It is the root of all evil in the sense that it is the means by which evil has amassed enormous power. Our use of dollars unwittingly gives energy to evil.May 29 18:26
schestowitzMoney is an agreement, an idea, pure information, not tangible, not a physical thing. Currency is a symbol of exchange. What kind of information does it convey? Information about claims on economic productivity.May 29 18:26
schestowitzUnder the Federal Reserve system, money is created out of thin air simply by writing on a ledger. This authority is so powerful it is one of the primary reasons for war. This fact is omitted from media publications because the bankers own nearly all the media publications! If you are reading this in an unaltered text, you have a small niche which has miraculously managed to elude their control. Anyway, this fiat currency is May 29 18:26
schestowitzissued almost exclusively through loans, i.e. debt. An honest debt is not necessarily amoral. However, one aspect of this that is particularly insidious is that "interest" is charged on these debts, and the money to pay back that interest is not created except through other loans! Thus it is mathematically impossible to ever get out of debt except by default or bankruptcy. It is "usury". It is indentured servitude. It is debtMay 29 18:26
schestowitzslavery.May 29 18:26
schestowitzSomeone is guaranteed to go bankrupt and not necessarily due to inefficiency of business or irresponsibility. In this case, "nice guys finish last", so it is a system that punishes good behavior rather than reward it. It is literally a game of musical chairs. This makes it your job to distance yourself from others, and scramble to avoid being the one who's left out. It gives people implied permission to leave others out, and May 29 18:26
schestowitzthis breeds callousness. There is an excess of competition and a serious lack of cooperation.May 29 18:26
schestowitzThis system is profoundly evil to the extent that it corrupts our behavior. Most people are unaware of this because they don't understand how money works. And why would they? It's not taught in the schools since these are financed by this money system!May 29 18:26
schestowitzMoney is kept scarce by market competition to acquire money for interest payments.May 29 18:26
schestowitzThis scarcity is the cause of economic recessions and depressions. There is no work done or economic trade when there is no money to facilitate this exchange. During the great depression, there were plenty of willing workers and goods for sale, but no paid jobs, and no sales made because there was no money. We have the work & the workers, what's missing? The currency! This is the so called "credit crisis". In a properly run May 29 18:26
schestowitzmonetary system there is no scarcity of money liquidity.May 29 18:26
schestowitz"Complementary currencies" are any agreed upon medium of exchange, other than national currency.May 29 18:26
schestowitzLocal currency is issued at the time that it is backed by goods and services in the community. Companies advertises in currency directory, Companies sign a statement to honor and endorse the currency, to agree to back the issuing of the currency in whole or in part with the goods and services offered by the company. In this way the currency becomes "backed".May 29 18:26
schestowitzA credit system allows for a negative balance, thus creation of currency through credit.May 29 18:26
schestowitzOne interesting system is a mutual time-exchange, or mutual credit system. A trade or sale generates a credit to one party offset by a debit to the other party, with a net zero-sum. A debit means that I owe something to the community. A credit means that the community owes something to me. In this case a zero balance is ideal. A temporary account imbalance is permitted, and there is a tendency toward long-term balance.May 29 18:26
schestowitzThis sort of economic system is functional, sustainable, moral and ethical. The network provides security of a social nature, a sense of community, economic productivity, a cooperative, supportive, a different experience, a shift in consciousness. It is a social safety-net, with relationship-based economic activity and trade.May 29 18:26
schestowitzThere are over 1000 community economies worldwide.May 29 18:26
schestowitz"May 29 18:26
schestowitzthis guy gets a lot of pussy 29 18:33 Awww :) #kletterberg :)  ![](  #cat #catcontent #cute :)May 29 18:33
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MinceRkitten armor!May 29 18:45
schestowitz 29 18:46
TechrightsSocial@binarybits: The Prenda story keeps getting weirder. Details about Alan Cooper's allegedly deteriorating mental state on pp. 7-9. 29 18:46
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schestowitzMinceR: every time you punch this guy a kitten siesMay 29 18:46
schestowitz 29 18:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: How to Escape a Submerged Car - Popular Mechanics .::. Size~: 66.03 KBMay 29 18:51
MinceR 29 19:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: Apple Promises To Fix Glitches In Map Software By Rearranging Earth's Geography - YouTube .::. Size~: 205.95 KBMay 29 19:45
schestowitzqu1j0t3: May 29 19:52
schestowitz 29 19:52
TechrightsSocialTitle: Jaron Lanier's Ignorance Of History, Basic Economics And Efficiency Is Getting Ridiculous | Techdirt .::. Size~: 156.07 KBMay 29 19:52
schestowitzmakes the points I was makingMay 29 19:52
schestowitzciting SlateMay 29 19:52
schestowitzqu1j0t3: " The Kodak/Instagram comparison comes up over and over again, and it's moronic. It makes no sense. To demonstrate, let's take something else that's old and something else that's modern that sorta-kinda seems similar, and compare the two: Very, very, very few people make money "auctioning" goods via Christie's. Yet, a few years ago, eBay noted that 724,000 Americans made their primary or secondary incomes from eBay May 29 19:54
schestowitzsales, with another 1.5 million supplementing their income. In the simplistic world of Jaron Lanier, this should be proof that eBay is good, and Christie's is bad, right? But, of course that's silly. "May 29 19:54
schestowitz"Let's start with Lanier's interview with fellow hater of the internet, Scott Timberg, at Salon, in which Lanier trots out this catchy line that is so braindead it made me wonder why Salon would sully its reputation by publishing something so easily proven stupid.."May 29 19:54
schestowitzSee?May 29 19:54
schestowitzit's not just me saying so..May 29 19:54
qu1j0t3but nobody is attacking his argument.May 29 19:55
qu1j0t3only this exampleMay 29 19:55
qu1j0t3fine, remove the example, then deal with the argument :)May 29 19:55
qu1j0t3the middle class is indeed faced with mcjobs with no security or benefitsMay 29 19:56
qu1j0t3starting with the creative classesMay 29 19:56
qu1j0t3naturally lanier will get some blowback from the technocracyMay 29 19:57
qu1j0t3he's saying the emperor has no clothes :)May 29 19:57
eikonosmaybe they should become economists.. it apparently requires no training or real-world experience :PMay 29 19:57
qu1j0t3i am not saying lanier is 100% right, but he's certainly not 100% wrong.May 29 19:57
qu1j0t3and he's not entirely wrong in his earlier book either (which i read)May 29 19:58
eikonosif a musician should get paid every time their song plays on the radio, why don't i get paid every time someone runs one of my old software programs?May 29 20:00
qu1j0t3the musicians aren't making a mint either.May 29 20:01
qu1j0t3eikonos: there is a model that worksMay 29 20:01
qu1j0t3well, the ideal spot for a programmer is "paid to write open source'.May 29 20:01
eikonosi don't think we owe musicians a living in that particular wayMay 29 20:01
eikonosi am happy to pay musicians i like because i want to encourage them to continueMay 29 20:02
qu1j0t3we aren't really supporting the musician that way anyway.May 29 20:02
qu1j0t3we're supporting the corporate tollbooth :)May 29 20:02
eikonosyeahMay 29 20:02
eikonosexactlyMay 29 20:02
eikonosand it's not a phantom tollboothMay 29 20:03
qu1j0t3which is a capitalistic argument, they own the means of production, & communication :)May 29 20:03
eikonoshahaMay 29 20:03
schestowitz 29 20:04 Encrypted IM app #Threema now available for #Android 29 20:04
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Encrypted IM app Threema now available for Android - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 54.48 KBMay 29 20:04
schestowitz"#Gibberbot supports encryption too."May 29 20:04
qu1j0t3XFaCE: eikonos Ford is going full Enron... see tweetsMay 29 20:17
qu1j0t3pics were put about of a huge bag of shredded dox in his office May 29 20:17
qu1j0t3a few days agoMay 29 20:18
qu1j0t3and now he's apparently ordered electronic documents destroyed :)May 29 20:18
eikonosat what point do the police step in?May 29 20:19
qu1j0t3"Maybe about now" ?May 29 20:19
schestowitzno more gov subsidies for US car makers?May 29 20:20
qu1j0t3schestowitz: good startMay 29 20:20
schestowitzto artificially create the illusion of capitalism working in the US? Are they still trying to impress the USSR and win hearts and minds?May 29 20:20
*qu1j0t3 goes out 4 burritoMay 29 20:20
schestowitzRaegan almost took the country into insolvency this wayMay 29 20:20
schestowitzFunding athletes and propping up the army...May 29 20:21
eikonoswhat's the difference between economics and astrology?May 29 20:22
schestowitzthe  former is more glorifiedMay 29 20:23
schestowitzyou seek to justify a system by making awards, paying high wages, and speaking the same lingoMay 29 20:23
schestowitzpretending economics is a science rather than a religionMay 29 20:23
eikonosgreenspan would be more reliable with a crystal ball and a deck of cardsMay 29 20:23
eikonos"uh.. pluto is in the house of aquarius, so it's a good time to invest in natural resources.."May 29 20:24
eikonosmaybe we can say that economics is a non-deterministic science ;)May 29 20:29
eikonosi'm all for evidence-based policy, and pseudo-science does not constitute evidenceMay 29 20:30
schestowitzLOL 29 20:40
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schestowitzeikonos: lolMay 29 20:40
eikonosit's a cat-herder!May 29 20:40
schestowitz 29 20:41
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MinceR:)May 29 20:41
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schestowitz 29 21:09 In Denmark, Online Tracking of Citizens is an Unwieldy Failure #denmark #privacyMay 29 21:09
schestowitz"Now, if the US government would just develop the ability to learn from the mistakes of others . . . . (Greece, UK, hint - hint)"May 29 21:09
TechrightsSocial-> Title: In Denmark, Online Tracking of Citizens is an Unwieldy Failure | TechPresident .::. Size~: 58.18 KBMay 29 21:09
schestowitz 29 21:09 Alternatives of 13 Most Commonly Used Windows Applications for Linux #gnu #linux #windows #microsoftMay 29 21:09
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Alternatives of 13 Most Commonly Used Windows Applications for Linux .::. Size~: 61.4 KBMay 29 21:09
schestowitz"Nice list. For text editors, I would make one addition. Check out #SciTe Its a great editor."May 29 21:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Scintilla and SciTE .::. Size~: 7.81 KBMay 29 21:09
qu1j0t3  "4:45 p.m.May 29 21:34
qu1j0t3Bill heads down to a private room in the basement to get his hair and makeup done. A device that Ailes had installed in every green room in the building methodically sucks the life force out of five adorable baby puppies and deposits it into Bill’s face, keeping him fresh and youthful-looking for one more day.May 29 21:34
qu1j0t3 29 21:35
TechrightsSocialTitle: I was a liberal mole at Fox News: From Bill O’Reilly to Roger Ailes, here’s all the inside dope - .::. Size~: 180.53 KBMay 29 21:35
qu1j0t3  In 1998, the Harris government forced a shotgun wedding on Toronto and five surrounding suburbs, in spite of local referendum results opposing the move more than three to one.May 29 21:38
qu1j0t3Not a single municipality affected was in favour of the merger, and all but one joined a legal challenge opposing it. The amalgamation bill was rammed through the Ontario legislature in one of the most bitterly contested battles in provincial history with opposition parties tabling 13,000 amendments over a two-week period in an ultimately futile filibuster. May 29 21:38
qu1j0t3 29 21:38
TechrightsSocialTitle: How the Rob Ford crack scandal could save Toronto | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 76.77 KBMay 29 21:39
eikonossome people want amalgamation hereMay 29 21:43
qu1j0t3 29 22:10
TechrightsSocial@CraigSilverman: Great fact check piece: "Doug Ford says critics ‘can’t go after our fiscal record’ – challenge accepted" 29 22:10
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Doug Ford says critics ‘can’t go after our fiscal record’ – challenge accepted | Metro .::. Size~: 82.46 KBMay 29 22:10
schestowitz 29 22:23 In Denmark, Online Tracking of Citizens is an Unwieldy Failure #denmark #privacyMay 29 22:23
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schestowitz"This is what tyranny is about. In better times, police solved crimes. Now they are trying to solve crimes that haven't been committed. Surely now everyone can sympathise (ironically meant) with the Stalin's intelligence services running around trying to find people who might be planning crimes... I don't know how this is going to end - but if brighter heads don't stop cowering in the corner but come out and speak up, this May 29 22:23
schestowitzwill end up in tragedy and bloodshed."May 29 22:23
qu1j0t3not just Stalin's.May 29 22:29
qu1j0t3every fascist state's.May 29 22:30
qu1j0t3i must have read accounts of at least 10 20thC fascist states, all employ identical methods.May 29 22:30
eikonosit would be a bit more visceral if the NSA had jars of samples of your fluids, etc...May 29 22:30
qu1j0t3All define thoughtcrime; all kidnap; all torture; all detain without charge; all disappear citizens. Including USA.May 29 22:30
eikonoswhatever the east germans didMay 29 22:30
qu1j0t3Stasi.May 29 22:30
eikonosyeahMay 29 22:30
qu1j0t3but there were at least two dozen others who did the same thingMay 29 22:31
*eikonos nodsMay 29 22:31
qu1j0t3in 20th CMay 29 22:31
qu1j0t3French in AlgeriaMay 29 22:31
qu1j0t3dozens of them in South AmericaMay 29 22:31
qu1j0t3ItalyMay 29 22:31
qu1j0t3GreeceMay 29 22:31
qu1j0t3the book "The Politics of Cruelty" is a good summary.May 29 22:32
qu1j0t3oh, East Timor; supported by Australia.May 29 22:32
qu1j0t3an under-appreciated exampleMay 29 22:32
qu1j0t3Belarus, Uzbekistan, and another few dozen current banana republics.May 29 22:33
qu1j0t3another dozen African banana republics as of now, incl ZimbabweMay 29 22:33
qu1j0t3GeorgiaMay 29 22:33
qu1j0t3ChechnyaMay 29 22:33
qu1j0t3PakistanMay 29 22:34
qu1j0t3Burma ofcMay 29 22:35
eikonosqu1j0t3: 29 23:42
TechrightsSocial@JustinTrudeau: Sad to hear of Dr. Henry Morgentaler's death. A crusader for women's reproductive freedom, his contributions will be remembered. #CdnPoliMay 29 23:42
qu1j0t3eikonos: you need to make a joke account called JestinTrudeau, or TrudeauInJestMay 29 23:43
eikonoswith a photoshop of justin beiber's hair on trudeau's face for the profile pic?May 29 23:44
qu1j0t3hahaMay 29 23:45
qu1j0t3not badMay 29 23:45
eikonosi don't know enough about trudeau to sustain itMay 29 23:46
eikonosplus i'm largely indifferent to himMay 29 23:46

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