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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Dynastic succession http://ur1.ca/ec4c7Jun 16 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2013: March - June Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 1279.55 KBJun 16 00:39
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101305026Jun 16 01:09
TechrightsBot-tr@Marcio B. Jr. (mbjunior)'s status on Saturday, 15-Jun-13 22:36:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @duckduckgo Special thanks to @schestowitz right? xDJun 16 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Awareness of global heating in China http://ur1.ca/ec4spJun 16 01:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2013: March - June Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 1279.55 KBJun 16 01:41
DaemonFCI wish that these coupon companies would join the 21st century.Jun 16 01:48
DaemonFCIt really sucks having to buy a Sunday newspaper and throw everything else out.Jun 16 01:48
DaemonFCThey could just as easily set up a website where you ask for a card to load coupons on, and then you slide it at the store.Jun 16 01:49
DaemonFCI miss out on a lot of coupons because they require some sort of Windows program to print them out.Jun 16 01:49
cubezzzmaybe use wine?Jun 16 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mako/@mako] Did @TheIndianVeg hire @DrBronner as their interior decorator? http://mako.cc/go/hJun 16 01:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Indian Veg | copyrighteous .::. Size~: 15.04 KBJun 16 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm not in the mood for it.Jun 16 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, it will not.Jun 16 02:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hi, folks. Still not moved yet. Had some small issues, fixing them tonight, hopefully start a final import tomorrow morning.Jun 16 02:09
DaemonFCcubezzz: There's more to it than that.Jun 16 02:23
DaemonFCIt crashes in Wine. I submitted a bug report, but I don't think they ever fixed it.Jun 16 02:24
DaemonFChttp://www.coupons.com/install/nosupportJun 16 02:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Install the Coupon Printer | Coupons.com .::. Size~: 6.81 KBJun 16 02:25
DaemonFCIt won't even let you download the program if it detects Linux in your user agentJun 16 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's part of my secret plan to make everyone really want to switch over.Jun 16 02:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] What must be done about Monsanto http://ur1.ca/ec5etJun 16 02:41
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DaemonFCplugin-container.exe has crashed.Jun 16 02:45
DaemonFCWell, that was an improvement. Older versions just failed and didn't pop up a crash dialog.Jun 16 02:45
Sosumican't you USB boot windows?Jun 16 02:46
Sosumior use a VM?Jun 16 02:46
DaemonFCI don't know.Jun 16 02:48
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DaemonFCNot sure if I even have any Windows discs.Jun 16 02:48
DaemonFCI suppose that one of those 180 day trial copies would be good enough.Jun 16 02:48
SosumiyeahJun 16 02:48
Sosumion a VMJun 16 02:48
Sosumiand then install it again when it's expiredJun 16 02:49
Sosumior just do some vodoo and keep it from ever expiringJun 16 02:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/13/us-walmart-hires-temps-idUSBRE95C05820130613Jun 16 02:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exclusive - Wal-Mart's everyday hiring strategy: Add more temps | Reuters .::. Size~: 92.05 KBJun 16 02:56
DaemonFCEven the local Dollar General pays better than Walmart.Jun 16 02:56
DaemonFCThe only reason I still go to Walmart sometimes is because it's a way I can shop other stores sales all in one trip.Jun 16 02:57
DaemonFCGets the grocery bill down considerably.Jun 16 02:57
SosumiyeahJun 16 02:57
DaemonFCTheir ad match policy is sort of weird. They consider anyone that puts an ad in any newspaper with a local delivery to be a local competitor.Jun 16 02:57
Sosumibut wallmart kind of got a bad rapJun 16 02:58
Sosumifrom selling crap meatJun 16 02:58
Sosumito "the people of wallmart"Jun 16 02:58
Sosumifrom what I heardJun 16 02:58
DaemonFCSince we get newspapers here from Fort Wayne and Marion, I can shop their ads without driving 30 miles and negating any savings by driving there.Jun 16 02:58
DaemonFCI get those post-it noted and write down the store, the price, the page number on the ad, and the sale dates, and stick them over the UPC barcode.Jun 16 02:59
DaemonFCThe item won't scan until the cashier pulls it off and overrides the register.Jun 16 02:59
DaemonFCThat way I don't have to remember to tell them every single item.Jun 16 02:59
DaemonFC*notesJun 16 02:59
DaemonFCYeah, most of the meat they carry is not good.Jun 16 03:00
DaemonFCTheir meat cutters formed a union, so Walmart fired them all.Jun 16 03:00
DaemonFCStarted getting pre-packaged pre-cut meat.Jun 16 03:00
Sosumiwallmart union busterJun 16 03:00
Sosumithat's not goodJun 16 03:00
DaemonFCWalmart isn't "directly" liable for the hiring practices of their suppliers.Jun 16 03:00
DaemonFCSo if the supplier illegally busts unions or hires illegal immigrants, it's the supplier's problem.Jun 16 03:01
SosumiyeahJun 16 03:01
DaemonFCWhen I was a manager at Walmart, they had an entire day of the training program called "Labor Relations".Jun 16 03:02
DaemonFCIt taught you how to keep labor unions out.Jun 16 03:02
Sosumibut it sounds depressing that you have to go out to get coupons Jun 16 03:03
DaemonFCIf the "problem" is serious enough, there's a 1-800 number you can call, that goes directly to Walmart's headquarters.Jun 16 03:03
DaemonFCThey'll assemble a group of lawyers and send them out to your store.Jun 16 03:03
Sosumia couple of chains here have membership cardsJun 16 03:03
DaemonFCWell, the good coupons have mostly dried up.Jun 16 03:04
Sosumithey may track your buying/shopping patterns but they mail you discounts according to the things you buyJun 16 03:04
DaemonFCWith the economy the way it is, people are more aggressive about getting lower prices, so coupon redemption rates have doubled.Jun 16 03:04
DaemonFCSo manufacturers keep their coupon budget under control in a number of ways.Jun 16 03:04
DaemonFCThe good coupons now say "Limit one per shopping trip." or instead of "50 cents off one box of tea", they say "$1 off two boxes of tea".Jun 16 03:05
Sosumiand a percentage of the money wasted at the store get is added to your card as creditJun 16 03:05
DaemonFCThe idea is that it pushes sales, so they can make up for the lower margins with higher volumes.Jun 16 03:05
Sosumiwell, chump change for the info they collect and sellJun 16 03:06
DaemonFCMy credit card doesn't work that way.Jun 16 03:06
DaemonFCThey pay me to use it, but only if I pay the entire amount off every month.Jun 16 03:06
Sosumiit's not to credit cardJun 16 03:06
Sosumi*theJun 16 03:06
Sosumiit's added to the store cardJun 16 03:06
DaemonFCOh, yeah, we have Kroger and KMart using loyalty cards.Jun 16 03:06
DaemonFCSo does Ace Hardware and Sears.Jun 16 03:06
Sosumiand you may choose to accumulate that money and use it later to buy your groceriesJun 16 03:07
DaemonFCI have their cards on my keychain.Jun 16 03:07
SosumiyeahJun 16 03:07
DaemonFCStudies have shown that stores that start using "discount cards" have their average prices go up.Jun 16 03:07
Sosumiit's something like thatJun 16 03:07
DaemonFCWhat happens is they start saying "A dozen eggs for $1 with your card. A gallon of milk for $1.88. A can of coffee for $5.99."Jun 16 03:08
DaemonFCThat's because those are staple items.Jun 16 03:08
DaemonFCBut the prices in other parts of the store rise to make up for the lost margin on ad items.Jun 16 03:08
Sosumiwell I haven't noticed any real increasesJun 16 03:08
DaemonFCThey shift prices around.Jun 16 03:08
DaemonFCThe ad items lose money, but that's OK if they can get you to do the rest of your shopping there.Jun 16 03:09
Sosumiyes, that may be trueJun 16 03:09
DaemonFCSo, I go to Walmart with 5-6 ads from other stores.Jun 16 03:09
Sosumibut remember the info they get to collect from youJun 16 03:09
DaemonFCSince there's always stuff on one store's ad that's not in another store's ad, you can take advantage of this.Jun 16 03:10
DaemonFCYour total grocery bill ends up being the lowest possible amount, because you shop 5-6 sales at one store.Jun 16 03:10
DaemonFCAnd Walmart ends up losing money on you.Jun 16 03:10
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 03:10
DaemonFCAnything that's not on sale anywhere else, I go to ALDI for. ALDI is on the way back home anyway.Jun 16 03:11
Sosumiplaying the system against itselfJun 16 03:11
DaemonFCYeah. You learn their rules and turn the game around on them.Jun 16 03:11
DaemonFCPlus, ALDI isn't *always* cheaper, just usually.Jun 16 03:12
DaemonFCI eat so many jalapeno peppers that I can save money buying them in bulk at Walmart.Jun 16 03:13
DaemonFCA two pound jar is like $3.40.Jun 16 03:13
DaemonFCI'd have to buy like 6-7 jars at ALDI for $1.49 each to get two pounds.Jun 16 03:13
Sosumijalapeno peppers, never heard of thatJun 16 03:13
DaemonFCYou *can* grow them here, but Indiana's climate is not well suited for it.Jun 16 03:14
DaemonFCYou'll end up getting peppers that are not very hot.Jun 16 03:14
SosumiI see, jalapeno peppers are what we call "cornicho"Jun 16 03:15
DaemonFCYou can't grow potatoes here. They'll grow, but they'll be hard as a rock.Jun 16 03:16
Sosumimy grandparents grow them on their backyardJun 16 03:16
DaemonFCAlmost every field in the state grows corn or soybeans.Jun 16 03:16
DaemonFCSo, you can get those very cheap.Jun 16 03:16
DaemonFCMy grandfather on my dad's side was a major alcoholic.Jun 16 03:17
DaemonFCHe spent so much of his money on that, that the kids went without food sometimes.Jun 16 03:17
Sosumi:8Jun 16 03:18
DaemonFCI remember my dad telling me that his dad would drive out to a corn field and have the kids go out and steal corn.Jun 16 03:18
Sosumi:(Jun 16 03:18
Sosumimy great-grandfather from my mother's side was a small business owner and a small farmerJun 16 03:19
DaemonFCHe worked for the UAW union, so it was impossible for him to get fired.Jun 16 03:19
DaemonFCHe'd show up to work drunk and start assembling cars.Jun 16 03:19
DaemonFCSometimes he wouldn't show up, and some of his fellow UAW members would go to the bar and make him get to work.Jun 16 03:20
DaemonFCIf he had to get by today, he'd be screwed.Jun 16 03:20
DaemonFCUnion or no union.Jun 16 03:20
Sosumias for my grandfather side I don't know much, probably a farmer tooJun 16 03:21
DaemonFCSo, sometimes unionization can tilt the table too far the other way.Jun 16 03:21
Sosumithis is southern portugal anywaysJun 16 03:21
DaemonFCBut, having the situation as it exists now with Walmart is unacceptable.Jun 16 03:21
Sosumioops, I meant, on my father's sideJun 16 03:21
DaemonFCIf people want to fight for better working conditions, I understand that.Jun 16 03:21
DaemonFCIf I saw the SEIU organize a strike at the local Walmart, I wouldn't cross their lines and shop there.Jun 16 03:22
DaemonFCI'm sort of hoping this does spread.Jun 16 03:22
DaemonFCSome stores have had it go that far recently.Jun 16 03:22
SosumiyeahJun 16 03:23
Sosumiwhen it comes to strikes here in portugalJun 16 03:23
DaemonFCThe stores where that's going on have responded by offering "incentives" to employees that cross the picket lines and go back to work.Jun 16 03:24
Sosumiit's usually the teachers unionJun 16 03:24
DaemonFCLike higher wages, more vacation time, etc.Jun 16 03:24
DaemonFCThe only condition is that they forget about the union.Jun 16 03:24
SosumiyeahJun 16 03:25
DaemonFCThe police technically can't do anything as long as the strikers don't go onto Walmart property or prevent customers from going in there.Jun 16 03:25
SosumitrueJun 16 03:25
DaemonFCI'm sort of hoping that when the US government starts unloading its shares of GM, that the employee union gets together and starts buying them.Jun 16 03:27
DaemonFCIf they can get to a point where they control more than half the shares, they'll be running the company they work for.Jun 16 03:27
Sosumiwell, that depends if the union isn't "controlled"Jun 16 03:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] If a float? Made of milk? Tries to ride on top of, like, your mind? Don't let it do that.Jun 16 03:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] THE GHOST OF FOOTBALLERS PAST WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOJun 16 03:28
DaemonFCIt's not, but some of the suppliers have ditched the union by outsourcing.Jun 16 03:28
DaemonFCThat's why a lot of these car parts say Made in Mexico nowJun 16 03:28
SosumisadJun 16 03:28
DaemonFCIt also happens to be the case that those parts are frequently of very low quality.Jun 16 03:29
Sosumijust like china stuffJun 16 03:29
DaemonFCI'll give you an example. The idler pulley on my car failed after about 15 years.Jun 16 03:29
DaemonFCI replaced it with one that said "Made in Mexico."Jun 16 03:29
DaemonFCIt lasted two years.Jun 16 03:29
Sosumiwell, a brand new 1250w seasonic PSU of mine failed after 4 months of useJun 16 03:30
DaemonFCWhen it came time to replace it, I decided I didn't want another one from Mexico, and went out to a junkyard.Jun 16 03:30
Sosumimade in china Jun 16 03:30
DaemonFCI pulled one off of another car.Jun 16 03:30
SosumiyeahJun 16 03:30
DaemonFCSome parts aren't even available new for my car anymore.Jun 16 03:30
Sosumiit's the same for my cardJun 16 03:31
DaemonFCThe air intake box snapped, and the cover would no longer seal properly. I called around to see if I could get a new one, and nobody made them.Jun 16 03:31
DaemonFCSo, back to the junkyard.Jun 16 03:31
DaemonFCI talked the guy there into selling me one for $10.Jun 16 03:31
Sosumiwhat car do you have?Jun 16 03:31
DaemonFCA 1995 Ford Taurus.Jun 16 03:31
Sosumimine's a bit olderJun 16 03:32
Sosumi1991 renault 21 turboJun 16 03:32
DaemonFCI've also replaced a headlight mounting bracket, the radiator, the heater core, and the air conditioner compressor.Jun 16 03:32
DaemonFCI did that all myself.Jun 16 03:32
DaemonFCThe old radiator was in such bad shape that I was putting in about a gallon of coolant each week.Jun 16 03:33
DaemonFCEvery day before I started the car, I had to pop the hood and put more coolant in until I finally got around to replacing it. :/Jun 16 03:33
Sosumithat sounds badJun 16 03:34
DaemonFCOh yeah, I also replaced the water pump.Jun 16 03:34
DaemonFCYeah, someone didn't do their maintenance. Jun 16 03:34
DaemonFCI got a good deal on the car though.Jun 16 03:34
Sosumimine, outside the AC unit of which I'm hunting for a working oneJun 16 03:34
Sosumieverything is in good shapeJun 16 03:34
DaemonFCSometimes, if it's just a small leak, you're better off recharging it with something that has a leak stopper in it.Jun 16 03:35
DaemonFCIf you charge it and it doesn't work for at least a couple of months, you've got a major leak, and the entire compressor needs to be replaced.Jun 16 03:36
Sosumino compliant gas for it anymoreJun 16 03:36
DaemonFCYou can convert it.Jun 16 03:36
DaemonFCYou just have to make sure there's no R-12 in the system first.Jun 16 03:36
Sosumiit has a leak, I had it recharged with a compliant gas at time, 2004, but it only lasted for 3 monthsJun 16 03:37
DaemonFCIf there is any left, a lot of shops here (at least) will pay you to let them drain it.Jun 16 03:37
DaemonFCIt's illegal to manufacture more of it, but they can use anything they've recovered. So the price for it has skyrocketed.Jun 16 03:37
Sosumiillegal because of the whole CFC thingJun 16 03:39
DaemonFCYeah.Jun 16 03:39
Sosumiwhich destroys the *cough* ozone layerJun 16 03:39
Sosumiwhich is falseJun 16 03:39
DaemonFCOh well, I never liked Australia anyway....Jun 16 03:39
Sosumithe ozone layer doesn't even existJun 16 03:39
DaemonFC(j/k)Jun 16 03:39
DaemonFCSure it does.Jun 16 03:40
Sosumiit is created by the bombardment of oxigen molecules in the ionosphereJun 16 03:40
Sosumiby solar radiationJun 16 03:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Arpaio racially profiled Latinos http://ur1.ca/ec5s1Jun 16 03:41
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Sosumibut since it's a very unstable molecule it returns back to O2Jun 16 03:42
Sosumiso it's not the ozone layerJun 16 03:42
Sosumiit's oxigen layerJun 16 03:42
Sosumiso when you hear about holes in the ozone layerJun 16 03:44
Sosumicheck if there's solar light in the area of the holeJun 16 03:44
Sosumibecause there are areas on the planet that because of the planet's hobble don't see light for almost a yearJun 16 03:44
Sosumi*wobbleJun 16 03:46
DaemonFChttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebugJun 16 03:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: RawhideKernelNodebug - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 15.34 KBJun 16 03:47
*DaemonFC has been using this.Jun 16 03:47
DaemonFCI used to maintain my own local git clone of the latest longterm upstream kernel and then patch it with the latest direct rendering manager stuff.Jun 16 03:48
DaemonFCThat was when I was using Kubuntu.Jun 16 03:48
SosumiI haven't looked into that yetJun 16 03:48
Sosumibut then again I'm still mastering linuxJun 16 03:49
DaemonFCWell, the idea is that Fedora has Rawhide and branched releases that will later become a stable release.Jun 16 03:49
DaemonFCBut, people have been averse to using a Branched release because they build the kernel for that with debug options all enabled.Jun 16 03:50
DaemonFCThat is a major drag on system performance.Jun 16 03:50
SosumiI seeJun 16 03:52
DaemonFC"Will not "just work" with secure boot."Jun 16 03:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, I do not. I'm not going to make estimates for a while.Jun 16 03:54
DaemonFCIf I ever do get a system with uEFI, I'm just going to set it to load the BIOS compatibility module and then use it like that.Jun 16 03:54
DaemonFCAs far as the operating system is aware, it's just like using any other BIOS-based system.Jun 16 03:55
DaemonFCIt doesn't start trying to use weird uEFI "features" that could lead to bricked hardware.Jun 16 03:55
Sosumijust use master boot recordJun 16 03:56
Sosumiand your board'll fall back to bios compatibility modeJun 16 03:56
DaemonFCRight now I'm using guid partition labels with a BIOS system.Jun 16 03:56
DaemonFCThe BIOS doesn't have to know what they are as long as it can load grub.Jun 16 03:57
DaemonFCSo the MBR is marked executable and has grub stage 1 on it, which then calls stage 2, which is on a 1 MB MBR partitioned label.Jun 16 03:57
DaemonFCAnd that knows how to deal with the rest of the partitions.Jun 16 03:58
DaemonFCIt avoids the 2.2 TB partition size limit on a BIOS system.Jun 16 03:58
DaemonFC*labeled partitionJun 16 03:58
DaemonFC:PJun 16 03:58
SosumiI seeJun 16 03:58
DaemonFCWindows doesn't support doing that.Jun 16 03:58
Sosumibut you don't have to use secure bootJun 16 03:58
Sosumijust disable itJun 16 03:59
DaemonFCUsing Secure Boot on a distribution that supports it means that you can't use a kernel you built yourself.Jun 16 03:59
DaemonFCIt also means you can't load any unsigned kernel modules, so the proprietary video drivers won't work.Jun 16 03:59
Sosumiplus you won't be able to use nvidia proprietary drivers with it enabledJun 16 03:59
Sosumiyeap all thatJun 16 04:00
DaemonFCIt's better to just avoid using anything from Nvidia at all.Jun 16 04:00
Sosumiyeah, but I need CUDAJun 16 04:00
DaemonFCI've been having so many problems with their driver that I finally just removed the card and stuck a Radeon in.Jun 16 04:00
Sosumino problems so far hereJun 16 04:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.9.6-gnu, 3.4.49-gnu1, and 3.0.82-gnu1 mipsel .debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now availableJun 16 04:01
Sosumialthough I have to admitJun 16 04:01
Sosumithat I've screwed 7 installs getting the drivers installed, CUDA package and required librariesJun 16 04:02
Sosumibut it payed offJun 16 04:04
DaemonFCTrying to install their proprietary driver from RPM Fusion made the system unbootable.Jun 16 04:04
Sosumiat least I got rid of the issues I was getting on my macproJun 16 04:04
DaemonFCI had to remove it to get my system running again.Jun 16 04:04
SosumiRPM Fusion drivers are extremely out of dateJun 16 04:05
DaemonFCIt doesn't always matter.Jun 16 04:06
DaemonFC18 seems to be following Nvidia's long term stable branch.Jun 16 04:06
DaemonFC19 seems to be following the latest release.Jun 16 04:07
Sosumibut RPM fusion drivers are still 304 seriesJun 16 04:08
DaemonFCyeah, 304 is a long term stable branch according to NvidiaJun 16 04:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You have to provide a client ID. I might loosen that in the future, but that's how it works right now.Jun 16 04:11
Sosumithat I don't knowJun 16 04:11
Sosumibut still an option for the most recent release would be niceJun 16 04:12
Sosumikind of like ubuntu hadJun 16 04:13
Sosumifor current and experimental driversJun 16 04:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's trivial to get a client ID and request the data. Maybe you could explain your application.Jun 16 04:14
DaemonFCToo many things are going wrong in Ubuntu right now. It's affecting the quality of their derivatives as well.Jun 16 04:14
DaemonFChttp://www.sundaycouponpreview.com/Jun 16 04:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sunday Coupon Preview .::. Size~: 45.08 KBJun 16 04:15
DaemonFCThere's how I know if I want to buy a newspaper or not.Jun 16 04:15
Sosumiyeah, but to tell you the truth I just want to see canonical burn alongside xamarin, M$ and appleJun 16 04:15
DaemonFCIt beats buying one every week just to find out that the coupons are worthless.Jun 16 04:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @jrobertson Reject Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Amazon web services, and avoid cloud web services where possible.Jun 16 04:16
Sosumimaybe add SCO to the fireplace tooJun 16 04:17
DaemonFCAnd they're no good this week.Jun 16 04:18
DaemonFCNo reason to buy a paper for $2.50 to get $1.50 in coupons out of it. :PJun 16 04:18
DaemonFCGenerally, the only one worth buying is the first Sunday of the month.Jun 16 04:18
DaemonFCThat's around the time that the old folks get their retirement checks.Jun 16 04:19
Sosumiprobably ^^Jun 16 04:20
Sosumibut dam, those coupons are only for junk productsJun 16 04:20
DaemonFCYeah. The only exception is usually the first Sunday of the month.Jun 16 04:20
DaemonFCSometimes I can dig $20-30 worth out of that one.Jun 16 04:20
DaemonFCMy mom works at a retirement home though, so she grabs a bunch of Sunday newspapers for me.Jun 16 04:21
DaemonFCThe people living there are so rich, they don't even bother with them.Jun 16 04:21
Sosumithat's niceJun 16 04:22
Sosumibut retirement homes... I'd rather hire a maidJun 16 04:23
DaemonFCThe people living there are loaded.Jun 16 04:24
DaemonFCThe assisted living apartments go for $8,000 a month or more.Jun 16 04:24
DaemonFCNobody in that area is on Medicaid. :PJun 16 04:24
Sosumiassisted living apartments?Jun 16 04:25
SosumiI meant, living in their homes and have a maid do the cleaningJun 16 04:25
Sosumiand foodJun 16 04:25
DaemonFCYeah. It's for people who are retired and need some help but they aren't ready for the nursing home.Jun 16 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @x11r5 beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the flourish open source productivity gameJun 16 04:26
Sosumiwell I just hope life extension tech comes in the near futureJun 16 04:27
Sosumias well age reversionJun 16 04:27
DaemonFCHey, cool...Jun 16 04:29
DaemonFCI got the Smartsource coupon printer working with IcedteaJun 16 04:29
Sosumi?Jun 16 04:35
Sosumiactually, to tell you the truth I've been downloading all I could get about gene therapyJun 16 04:36
Sosumibut not for the purpose of life extension just by itselfJun 16 04:37
Sosumionly curiosityJun 16 04:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Koch brother blocked movie that criticized him http://ur1.ca/ec64dJun 16 04:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Well this worked ! #android   #nexus   #linux    #mtp  http://www.circuidipity.com/mtp.html http://ur1.ca/ec64vJun 16 04:44
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DaemonFCsounds expensiveJun 16 04:45
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 04:45
DaemonFCcan't have all those peasants wandering around forever :)Jun 16 04:45
Sosumiwell, don't you want to colonize at least the solar system?Jun 16 04:51
Sosumior keep the folks that still use their heads for something productive around?Jun 16 04:51
Sosumifor space colonization you'll need ways to repair your cells from space radiationJun 16 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @mlinksva ...also I doubt a lawyer will provide best advice on what I suspect as much a question of community best practices as of la ...Jun 16 04:53
Sosumiwell it's just not space colonizationJun 16 04:57
Sosumithink short termJun 16 04:57
Sosumiman mission to marsJun 16 04:58
Sosumilead platting just wont doJun 16 04:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the flourish open source productivity gameJun 16 04:59
Sosumiand you need ways to mitigate the body damageJun 16 05:00
Sosumiand repair some of itJun 16 05:00
Sosumiactually, if all the money was changed from mindless geopolitics to space explorationJun 16 05:03
Sosumiyou'd not only bring a scenario of post-war but you'd also see tech actually advancing at a much faster paceJun 16 05:04
DaemonFCIn just about every science fiction depiction of the future, there's a planetary government in power.Jun 16 05:07
Sosumiin just about every science fiction there's an AI that turns on humansJun 16 05:08
Sosumithat doesn't necessarily have to be trueJun 16 05:09
Sosumithat's why it's fiction, plus, in about every science fiction book there's a major war that ends in world governmentJun 16 05:11
Sosumithat doesn't mean it needs to happenJun 16 05:14
DaemonFClarger regional governments are more likely in the near futureJun 16 05:16
DaemonFCI'm not sure that we'll ever see a world government.Jun 16 05:16
Sosumiyou'll see a federal europe for sureJun 16 05:17
DaemonFCProbably a united North America too.Jun 16 05:18
DaemonFCThat one might take another 20 years, but it's coming.Jun 16 05:18
Sosumiand later a standardization in between the free trade agreements areasJun 16 05:18
SosumiNAFTA and the new free trade agreement with the EUJun 16 05:18
Sosumithe only way to build world government is that wayJun 16 05:19
Sosumithrough free tradeJun 16 05:19
Sosumiand the creation of overseeing bodies within the free zoneJun 16 05:20
Sosumilike for example the EU,Jun 16 05:22
Sosuminot that I disagree with a european federationJun 16 05:23
Sosumiwhich I don'tJun 16 05:23
Sosumibut I disagree in the way has been evolvingJun 16 05:23
Sosumifollowing the soviet modelJun 16 05:23
Sosumibasically all I can say about the current EU is that the USSR didn't dissolve, it just moved westJun 16 05:24
Sosumiif you're interested in geopolitics, you might want to have look at Jacques Attali booksJun 16 05:33
SosumiCarroll Quigley and Brzezinski booksJun 16 05:34
DaemonFCMy sinuses are draining and I'm drenched with sweat. I think I'll use a few less peppers next time.Jun 16 05:38
DaemonFCI'm in the habit of putting those on just about everything.Jun 16 05:39
Sosumiwhy not replace peppers with garlic?Jun 16 05:39
DaemonFCgood questionJun 16 05:39
Sosumi:)Jun 16 05:40
DaemonFCI got a good deal on frozen pizzas yesterday and now my freezer is full of them.Jun 16 05:40
DaemonFCCan't have a pizza without plenty of peppers.Jun 16 05:40
DaemonFCI take a supreme pizza, and cover it with jalapeno slices.Jun 16 05:40
DaemonFCThen when it's done cooking, I put a bunch of crushed red pepper on it.Jun 16 05:41
Sosuminot a big fan pizzaJun 16 05:41
DaemonFCThen I sprinkle it with cayenne pepper sauce.Jun 16 05:41
DaemonFCI could live off of those.Jun 16 05:42
DaemonFCMy other favorite is crunchy peanut butter on whole wheat with bananas.Jun 16 05:42
DaemonFCSome people put bacon on those, but I don't.Jun 16 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Prohibitionists try to make pot seem dangerous http://ur1.ca/ec6mcJun 16 05:43
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DaemonFCI'm using Chromium as my default browser now. I agree it's probably time for distributions to think about defaulting to this instead of Firefox.Jun 16 05:50
DaemonFCMozilla only seems to sneer at Linux more and more.Jun 16 05:51
DaemonFCBefore Firefox 3, all ports of Firefox had roughly the same featureset.Jun 16 05:51
DaemonFCNow, they're always giving the Windows version the new features.Jun 16 05:51
DaemonFCThe Linux version maybe gets them years later.Jun 16 05:52
SosumiI'm using a mix of firefox and konquerorJun 16 05:53
DaemonFCThey see no reason to implement Pepper because there's no pressure on them to do that.Jun 16 05:53
DaemonFCAdobe still releases NPAPI Flash for Windows and Mac.Jun 16 05:53
DaemonFCIn the Bugzilla entry that suggested implementing Pepper, the poster noted that they're basically abandoning Linux to Chrome.Jun 16 05:54
DaemonFCand the response was basically "Yeah, so? Who cares?"Jun 16 05:54
Sosumi:(Jun 16 05:54
Sosumiwell we have konqueror, chromium, iceweasel...Jun 16 05:54
Sosumithey wont be missed for sureJun 16 05:54
DaemonFCWhoever puts Flash in their website should kill themselves.Jun 16 05:55
SosumiyepJun 16 05:55
Sosumiand whoever puts RMS's videos also requiring flash should be eternally torturedJun 16 05:56
DaemonFCI wasn't very concerned with Adobe's announcement that Linux Flash would remain at 11.2, because they said they'd be fixing security problems for five years.Jun 16 05:56
Sosumiyeah, that's trueJun 16 05:56
DaemonFCI figured that by that time, Flash would be dying anyway, but it doesn't seem to have gotten less popular.Jun 16 05:56
DaemonFCAnd every time Adobe updates Flash 11.2, some site stops working, and they don't care.Jun 16 05:56
DaemonFCI've written to them about that and their response was that they no longer take bug reports for Flash on Linux.Jun 16 05:57
DaemonFCAlso, Flash 11.2 only enables hardware acceleration if you have the proprietary Nvidia driver loaded.Jun 16 05:57
DaemonFCYou can force Pepper Flash to do that if you force Chromium to do it.Jun 16 05:58
DaemonFCSo it does hardware accelerated rendering on Mesa drivers if you override Chromium with flags.Jun 16 05:58
Sosumido it like, use flash on another machine or windows partitionJun 16 05:58
Sosumi*meJun 16 05:59
DaemonFCFlash 11.7 works if you install it into Chromium.Jun 16 05:59
DaemonFCThe process is not straightforward, and you have to upgrade it manually.Jun 16 05:59
DaemonFCEach time you do it, it involves downloading Google Chrome and ripping the plugin out of the RPM Jun 16 05:59
SosumiI'd never have something like flash installed specially since I have sensible info always laying aroundJun 16 06:00
DaemonFCIt's annoying to download a 60 MB RPM every time Flash gets updated.Jun 16 06:00
DaemonFCI got bored a while back and started working on a family tree.Jun 16 06:01
DaemonFCI got stuck.Jun 16 06:01
DaemonFCOn my dad's side, records don't seem to go back past the 1700s.Jun 16 06:01
Sosumiemigrant?Jun 16 06:03
DaemonFCThe oldest ancestor I was able to find was a sixth great grandmother who was born in the 1740s in New Jersey, while it was still a British colony.Jun 16 06:03
DaemonFCIt seems that they had moved to Kentucky by the start of the American Revolution.Jun 16 06:03
DaemonFCso my fifth great grandmother was born in Kentucky in April of 1776.Jun 16 06:04
SosumiI seeJun 16 06:04
DaemonFCFrom what I've been able to gather, I have ancestors who fought in the civil war.Jun 16 06:05
DaemonFCon both sidesJun 16 06:05
DaemonFCMy father's side had moved to Indiana by this time and some of them joined the Union army.Jun 16 06:05
DaemonFCand my mother's side of the family was living in Arkansas, Lousiana, and Texas.Jun 16 06:05
DaemonFCSome of them joined the Confederates.Jun 16 06:06
DaemonFCMy grandfather on my mother's side was the one that decided to move from Louisiana to Indiana, because the job market wasn't so great around there in the late 1950s, and he had a friend here that said he could guarantee him a job at General Motors.Jun 16 06:07
DaemonFCIt was interesting doing the family tree until I got stuck where I did, so I started working forward in time from there.Jun 16 06:08
DaemonFCI've managed to branch it out and locate some distant cousins.Jun 16 06:09
Sosumi:)Jun 16 06:09
DaemonFCIt's a mess. One thing that very nearly stopped me at one point was that a courthouse in Tennessee had burned to the ground back in the 1860s, and lots of records were destroyed.Jun 16 06:12
DaemonFCSo it's very likely that anything I would have learned from that is just gone.Jun 16 06:12
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SosumiI seeJun 16 06:12
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/article/20130612/NEWS05/306120072/Indiana-lawmakers-override-Gov-Mike-Pence-s-veto-resolve-county-tax-mixupJun 16 06:13
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DaemonFCThat's likely to be the first of many.Jun 16 06:13
DaemonFCOur current governor is not popular.Jun 16 06:13
DaemonFCIf the election had been much closer there would have been a mandatory recount.Jun 16 06:14
DaemonFCHis own party can't seem to run away from him fast enough.Jun 16 06:14
DaemonFCThey're worried that he'll be so unpopular by 2016 that there will be a "reverse coattails" effect that might bring them down too.Jun 16 06:15
DaemonFCSo they're trying to put some distance between them.Jun 16 06:15
DaemonFC"Something something something won't expand Medicaid.....something something cut food stamps....something something that's what Jesus wants."Jun 16 06:17
DaemonFC"Something something raise taxes on everyone...."Jun 16 06:17
DaemonFC"Something something except those rich people."Jun 16 06:17
DaemonFC"Something something Jesus."Jun 16 06:18
DaemonFC"God bless you!"Jun 16 06:18
DaemonFChttp://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpgJun 16 06:19
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Sosumiwell that sounds kind of like bishop RomneyJun 16 06:19
DaemonFC"How much more of this idiot do we have to listen to?"Jun 16 06:20
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 06:20
DaemonFCIt's political theater.Jun 16 06:21
DaemonFCThanks to a federal law from 1986, hospital emergency rooms have to treat everyone, regardless of their ability to pay.Jun 16 06:22
DaemonFCSo, in most cases, they end up writing off the entire bill as a loss and forwarding their costs to patients who can pay in the form of higher bills.Jun 16 06:22
DaemonFCThe Medicaid expansion that Governor Pence is refusing would cost less than half the amount of money that it would save taxpayers and people who are currently insured.Jun 16 06:23
DaemonFCSo, by the time he's done with his first term, Indiana will be the only state that refused the expansion.Jun 16 06:24
DaemonFCIndiana already has a workforce quality problem.Jun 16 06:24
DaemonFCPeople get a college education and then leave.Jun 16 06:24
DaemonFCOr they graduate high school, can't find any jobs, and leave.Jun 16 06:25
SosumiyeahJun 16 06:25
DaemonFCSo, the demographics of the state are changing rapidly.Jun 16 06:25
DaemonFCThe median age is going up, and employers can't find people who are qualified to work for them.Jun 16 06:25
DaemonFCOver the last 20 years, the city where I was born has gone from a population of over 50,000, to roughly 27,000.Jun 16 06:26
Sosumithat's a huge declineJun 16 06:28
DaemonFCIf things keep going this way, by 2020, Indiana will lose two more electoral votes, and two seats in Congress.Jun 16 06:28
DaemonFCYeah, I don't think people appreciate how fucked this state is.Jun 16 06:28
Sosumiis that Pence guy one of those libertarian republicans?Jun 16 06:29
DaemonFCTea PartyJun 16 06:29
Sosumiwho think big gov is bad and that medicare/medicaid is unconstitutionalJun 16 06:29
DaemonFCPro-Big Business, and inserts fundamentalist Christianity into everything.Jun 16 06:29
Sosumioh, ouchJun 16 06:29
DaemonFCI've started referring to Indiana as the trashcan of the midwest.Jun 16 06:30
Sosumiwell, I always make fun of the libertarian typesJun 16 06:30
Sosumibecause they're all against the governmentJun 16 06:30
DaemonFCWell, their ideology falls apart when you consider what would happen if government just disappeared.Jun 16 06:31
Sosumibut if there wasn't the "governenment" an actually functional oneJun 16 06:31
Sosumithey'd be at the mercy of the financial powerJun 16 06:31
Sosumiwith nothing in betweenJun 16 06:31
DaemonFCThere would be roaming gangs of marauders that just took whatever they wanted and would eventually become another form of government.Jun 16 06:32
Sosumiwell and let's not forget the Ron Paul tardsJun 16 06:32
DaemonFCThat's really what government is in the first place.Jun 16 06:32
DaemonFCIt takes whatever it wants and ensures support for itself by buying enough people off.Jun 16 06:32
DaemonFCIf the carrot doesn't work, you get the stick.Jun 16 06:32
Sosumiyeah, that'd in fact be a tyrannyJun 16 06:33
Sosumiwith feudal lordsJun 16 06:33
DaemonFCThat's really what welfare programs in a police state really boils down to.Jun 16 06:33
DaemonFCIf they can't pacify people with bribes, they send the police out to deal with them.Jun 16 06:34
Sosumiand the breakup of the union aka Brezinski doctrine, states and mini statesJun 16 06:34
SosumiyeahJun 16 06:34
DaemonFCI don't think the US will break apart or lose control of its territory.Jun 16 06:35
Sosumitrue to a certain extentJun 16 06:35
DaemonFCIt has stopped expanding though.Jun 16 06:35
DaemonFCProbably forever.Jun 16 06:35
Sosumibut a real welfare state or should I say nanny state also conditions folks to look at the government for everythingJun 16 06:35
Sosumilike a big daddyJun 16 06:35
DaemonFCThat's the point.Jun 16 06:35
SosumiBill Cooper used to talk about that all the timeJun 16 06:36
DaemonFCThey want to make sure that enough people depend on the government that the idea of getting rid of it or making huge reforms seems terrifying.Jun 16 06:36
Sosumithat also play with the current inflow of emigrantsJun 16 06:37
Sosumiand making them dependent on social welfareJun 16 06:37
Sosuminot that the emigrants and illigals are to blameJun 16 06:38
DaemonFCYou have two cows. The government  shoots one of the cows, pours half the milk from the other one down the drain, and then lets your neighbors vote on who gets the rest.Jun 16 06:38
DaemonFCThen you have to fill out paperwork to account for the missing cow.Jun 16 06:38
Sosumiwhich they aren't, they just want better living conditionsJun 16 06:38
DaemonFCSort of a cross between democracy and bureaucracy from the "politics explained" joke.Jun 16 06:38
Sosumibut they're being used as cannon fodder for a war on the middle classJun 16 06:38
Sosumithat be well seen in britainJun 16 06:39
Sosumi*canJun 16 06:39
DaemonFCThe backlash against immigration into the US isn't about racism. (Mostly.)Jun 16 06:39
DaemonFCFrom what I can see, the people who support it are business owners that want to drive down wages.Jun 16 06:39
DaemonFCMost of the people who oppose it are people who don't want their wages to go down.Jun 16 06:40
Sosumiwell you knowJun 16 06:40
Sosumiin order to compete with chinaJun 16 06:40
Sosumiit's race to the bottomJun 16 06:40
DaemonFCYeah. It would be better if our jobs market was really growing, and growing so fast that we couldn't keep up with the demand.Jun 16 06:41
Sosumiand if you get a high influx of emigrants you may hire them at a lower wage than a nativeJun 16 06:41
DaemonFCThen the immigration would be necessary and good policy.Jun 16 06:41
DaemonFCWhat we have is a jobs deficit that keeps getting larger.Jun 16 06:41
DaemonFCEven if 100% of them were filled, we'd still have about 16 million people out of work.Jun 16 06:42
Sosumiwell, everything is being shipped to slave labour nationsJun 16 06:42
Sosumijust like it is happening here in portugal and across europeJun 16 06:42
DaemonFCChina isn't going to be the maker of cheap crap for much longer.Jun 16 06:42
DaemonFCWages are rising, and so are fuel costs.Jun 16 06:42
Sosumiindonesia and vietnam areJun 16 06:43
SosumiyeahJun 16 06:43
DaemonFCThe US has become so decadent that I don't see very much of it coming back here.Jun 16 06:43
DaemonFCThe unemployment rate for my generation is about one in three.Jun 16 06:43
DaemonFCMany of them are still living with their parents.Jun 16 06:44
Sosumiwell, I see the loan sharks coming for the money when the wars are overJun 16 06:44
DaemonFCThe obesity rate is so high that nearly 30% of them are unfit for military service because of that alone.Jun 16 06:44
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 06:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Obama should follow international law http://ur1.ca/ec6z8Jun 16 06:44
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DaemonFCI think that's why we have the current first lady doing a fight that flab campaign.Jun 16 06:45
DaemonFCAimed at children.Jun 16 06:45
Sosumijust hand them a gamepad and copy of modern warfare :PJun 16 06:45
DaemonFCTrying to make more of them fit for the military.Jun 16 06:45
SosumiI thought that was just michele's way to show how ridiculous she isJun 16 06:46
cubezzzum, just been wonderingJun 16 06:48
DaemonFCIf they want the obesity rate to crash, they'll get rid of some of the "shit that passes for food".Jun 16 06:48
cubezzzis there NSA code in the linux kernel?Jun 16 06:48
DaemonFCcubezzz: There's the selinux module.Jun 16 06:48
DaemonFCThat was initially developed by them.Jun 16 06:48
cubezzzwhen did that first appear?Jun 16 06:48
DaemonFCI use it (Fedora does by default).Jun 16 06:48
DaemonFCI don't think there's a good reason not to use it. It's under the GPL and has been part of the kernel since around 2000.Jun 16 06:49
DaemonFCThe overhead is small. The targeted policy doesn't interfere with most applications.Jun 16 06:50
DaemonFCThe biggest drawback is that the file system must support security labels, so you can't use jfs or reiserfs.Jun 16 06:50
DaemonFCBut, I don't think many people still use those anyway.Jun 16 06:50
DaemonFCThe biggest user of jfs is probably ecomstation.Jun 16 06:50
cubezzzthat's interesting because I use fc1 still, and I can't recall ever using it on fc1Jun 16 06:51
DaemonFCI don't think Fedora defaulted to using it until like version 3?Jun 16 06:52
DaemonFCcould be wrongJun 16 06:52
DaemonFCThey switched to the targeted policy in version 5 iirc.Jun 16 06:52
cubezzzah, so I'm still pre-selinux thenJun 16 06:52
cubezzzdoes bsd have an equivalent to selinux?Jun 16 06:52
DaemonFCFedora Core 1 used kernel 2.4.19.Jun 16 06:53
DaemonFCI think Red Hat Linux 9 used that kernel as well.Jun 16 06:53
DaemonFCThere wasn't a huge difference between RHL 9 and FC1 other than a major rebranding.Jun 16 06:53
cubezzzactually before it went EOL it was 2.4.22Jun 16 06:53
DaemonFCyeah, the BSDs have a port of SELinux.Jun 16 06:54
DaemonFCselinux is just the Linux-specific name for FLASK.Jun 16 06:54
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLASKJun 16 06:54
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DaemonFChttp://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/index.shtmlJun 16 06:55
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_LinuxJun 16 06:55
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DaemonFCThere are other implementations of mandatory access control on Linux.Jun 16 06:56
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOMOYO_LinuxJun 16 06:56
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmorJun 16 06:56
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DaemonFCTomoyo basically went nowhere.Jun 16 06:56
DaemonFCMandriva and TurboLinux both used it, but Mandriva is defunct.Jun 16 06:56
DaemonFCNovell bought the company that developed AppArmor, then fired them.Jun 16 06:57
DaemonFCThe main developer now works for Microsoft.Jun 16 06:57
DaemonFCCanonical maintains AppArmor now, and ships it in Ubuntu.Jun 16 06:57
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 06:57
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Mandatory_Access_Control_KernelJun 16 06:57
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DaemonFCThere's also that, but I don't think anyone is actually using it.Jun 16 06:58
DaemonFCWell, anyone worth mentioning.Jun 16 06:58
DaemonFCYou can use SELinux in Debian or Ubuntu if you want to.Jun 16 06:59
DaemonFCYou have to disable AppArmor in Ubuntu first, then enable SELinux, choose a policy to enforce, and then label the file system.Jun 16 06:59
DaemonFCIn Debian, the module is loaded but has no policy to enforce, so it's effectively disabled by default.Jun 16 07:00
DaemonFCIt's easy to enable it.Jun 16 07:00
DaemonFCAppArmor doesn't work properly with a stock kernel.Jun 16 07:00
DaemonFCIt's not fully upstreamed, so Ubuntu has a series of kernel patches that have to be applied in order to use it fully.Jun 16 07:00
DaemonFCIf you try to use a vanilla kernel on Ubuntu, AppArmor can't be used.Jun 16 07:01
DaemonFCThey've broken out the patches, but they're not always kept up to date with the current kernel.Jun 16 07:01
DaemonFCThey patch the Ubuntu kernel with them.Jun 16 07:01
DaemonFCHeh, looks like that information is outdated now.Jun 16 07:03
DaemonFCIt's fully upstreamed since Linux 3.4Jun 16 07:03
DaemonFCI guess that means that it should work.Jun 16 07:03
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DaemonFCIt's getting ready to storm.Jun 16 07:36
*DaemonFC was just hobbling around, cleaning the bathroom.Jun 16 07:36
DaemonFCNot easy to do with a broken toe.Jun 16 07:36
DaemonFCI haven't been walking around much since I did that.Jun 16 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Internet repression http://ur1.ca/ec7c8Jun 16 07:44
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DaemonFCIt's the little things, really....Jun 16 07:52
DaemonFCChromium even does native KDE file dialogs.Jun 16 07:52
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DaemonFChttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/037250.htmlJun 16 08:01
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DaemonFCFrom the post:Jun 16 08:02
DaemonFCFor Kubuntu the options are:Jun 16 08:02
DaemonFC- Use Mir - infeasable as upstream can't support it as described aboveJun 16 08:02
DaemonFC- Use Wayland with packages from Debian and hope we can make those packagesJun 16 08:02
DaemonFC  live with Mir as best as possibleJun 16 08:02
DaemonFC- End of KubuntuJun 16 08:02
DaemonFCThere's no question about whether or not Fedora with KDE will go on.Jun 16 08:04
DaemonFCThe only question is *when* it will default to Wayland.Jun 16 08:04
DaemonFCFirefox has an interesting proposal for killing Flash.Jun 16 08:06
DaemonFCReplace it with a shim that runs Flash content with native browser features.Jun 16 08:06
*DaemonFC wonders if that means that it will eventually play flash videos natively.Jun 16 08:07
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DaemonFChttps://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/9076Jun 16 08:23
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DaemonFCdoesn't seem to be available yet for me.Jun 16 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Obama's talk about drones and Guantanamo insufficient http://ur1.ca/ec7ozJun 16 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt280/@lnxwalt280] Remembering the "six months of silence" after Ubuntu 8.04 and #PulseAudio. Five years later, it is still a problem.Jun 16 08:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 130615 - http://bit.ly/158QNF1 yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDDJun 16 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Der Bundesüberwachungsminister informiert: Unsere US-Freunde dürfen uns natürlich überwachen - http://bit.ly/13OO4kz witless & patheticJun 16 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Mike Elgan http://ur1.ca/ec7uvJun 16 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Turkish police storm protest camp using teargas and rubber bullets - http://bit.ly/11pS1uz Erdoğan shows himself an autocratic bullyJun 16 09:08
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DaemonFChttp://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/15/leno-obama-lgbt-crowd-americans-regardless-sexual-orientation-will-beJun 16 09:08
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DaemonFCThat's good. I'd hate to be left out.Jun 16 09:08
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 09:08
DaemonFChttp://www.startribune.com/business/211626871.htmlJun 16 09:10
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DaemonFCWhole Foods fired two Spanish-speaking employees for speaking to each other in Spanish.Jun 16 09:10
DaemonFCWell, the CEO of that company is a right-wing extremist.Jun 16 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Worried about NSA surveillance? Meet the proposed laws to curb the agency’s authority - http://tnw.co/11Hg4oC quite a fewJun 16 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Schneier: it doesn't matter how Prism works, technically" - http://bit.ly/1aeIZah "assume gov collects everything" (v @BiellaColeman)#nsaJun 16 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secret to Prism program: Even bigger data seizure .::. Size~: 87.72 KBJun 16 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The NSA has us snared in its trap – and there's no way out - http://bit.ly/10mQmuL pessimistic I think; some alternatives already existJun 16 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ...and many more will now be created (re last tweet)Jun 16 09:21
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DaemonFCComcast is advertising for a UFC fight on Pay Per View for $20, but it has already been uploaded to The Pirate Bay.Jun 16 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] meanwhile, I'm moving over to ixquick - http://ur1.ca/ec80o and StartPage - http://ur1.ca/5h79p both look good so far - why not try?Jun 16 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US intelligence outlines checks it says validate surveillance - http://bit.ly/1ah8Ka0 it also has a bridge to sell if you're interested...Jun 16 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] also, this: @GlynMoody's#PGP Key - http://bit.ly/156AxED I strongly advise you to set up one yourself... #nsa #prismJun 16 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US surveillance architecture includes collection of revealing Net, phone metadata - http://wapo.st/19Fnml0 amazing stuff, all due 2 #snowdenJun 16 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Jan Dennis Bungart http://ur1.ca/ec83oJun 16 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Snowden Had a Breaking Point, Where He Decided to Risk It All to Fix This Country -- What's Yours? - http://bit.ly/1ahaH6q good postJun 16 09:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Edward Snowden Had a Breaking Point, Where He Decided to Risk It All to Fix This Country -- What's Yours? | Alternet .::. Size~: 101.1 KBJun 16 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Burma imposed limit of two children http://ur1.ca/ec86oJun 16 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Fascinating New Theory About the Human #Mind, Evolution and Mortality - http://bit.ly/11R1j5R maybe #consciousness on its own is fatalJun 16 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 100-Millionen-Programm: BND will Internet-Überwachung massiv ausweiten - http://bit.ly/168oCsj the surveillance cancer spreadsJun 16 09:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #google: Our continued commitment to combating child exploitation online - http://bit.ly/10mTvKY fighting this at source is the wayJun 16 09:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government of Kenya attacks self-help program in Mombasa slums - http://bit.ly/11hoPcC so short-sighted #keJun 16 09:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government of Kenya attacks self-help program in Mombasa slums | Beyond Money .::. Size~: 106.22 KBJun 16 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nepal belatedly takes action on slavery following Srijana Chaudhary tragedy - http://bit.ly/1ahedgY shameful for 21st centuryJun 16 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nepal belatedly takes action on slavery following Srijana Chaudhary tragedy | Global development | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 121.99 KBJun 16 10:04
schestowitzhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/edc07a7c13ba8e6adef6b7d412c7b5e5/tumblr_mnmxtngVYX1r83cgjo1_500.jpgJun 16 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @glynmoody: #google: Our continued commitment to combating child exploitation online - bit.ly/10mTvKY fighting this at source is the wayJun 16 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The genie of unlimited filth is out of the bottle and no law can stop us polishing our lamps - http://bit.ly/158XXZO (v @kisumii @Glinner)Jun 16 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The genie of unlimited filth is out of the bottle and no law can stop us polishing our lamps .::. Size~: 110.86 KBJun 16 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "As much as possible, change to #open source software on local servers." - http://huff.to/122nYbg why #freesw matters (v @AnnieMachon)Jun 16 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rep. Grayson: Let Me Tell #NSA: There Is No Threat To Our Nation When I Call My Mother - http://bit.ly/12wcdQh "this has gone way too far."Jun 16 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ### #ChrisHedges: Without #Whistleblowers Like Edward #Snowden & #BradleyManning, There Is No Free Press http://ur1.ca/ec8d4Jun 16 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The companies that create GE crops do their own food safety assessments, which the FDA reviews" - http://huff.to/149W5B3 key issue here #gmJun 16 10:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Carole Bartolotto: Is the Movement to Label GMOs Anti-Science? .::. Size~: 271.07 KBJun 16 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] re last tweet: problem with #GM crops is not the technology, but how they are approved, and how patents allow food chain to be monopolisedJun 16 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants - http://cnet.co/11Egc7j "appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too"Jun 16 10:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants | Politics and Law - CNET News .::. Size~: 93.45 KBJun 16 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wi-Fi Light Bulbs Shipping Soon - http://bit.ly/13Qw8WS running #opensource, of course...Jun 16 10:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ladies and Gentlemen, SCO v. IBM Is Officially Reopened - http://bit.ly/13KU2EM the zombie lawsuitJun 16 10:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Ladies and Gentlemen,  SCO v. IBM Is Officially Reopened ~pj .::. Size~: 66 KBJun 16 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Xbox One will divide EU into different markets - http://bit.ly/10mXcjG bonkers and retrogressive #microsoftJun 16 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] also, re Xbox One, I wonder whether this goes against EU regulations for a single market? #MSJun 16 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The NSA story and the negative security it delivers to everyone - http://bit.ly/17Q6OGa exactly #negativesecurityJun 16 10:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DATA Dystopia.  The NSA Scandal and Beyond.  - Global Guerrillas .::. Size~: 67.87 KBJun 16 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Our Top-Secret Message to NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden - http://bit.ly/16u0XDc just to keep NSA computers busy for a while, I supposeJun 16 10:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Our Top-Secret Message to NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 120.93 KBJun 16 10:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] For #Snowden, a Life of Ambition, Despite the Drifting - http://nyti.ms/11hqNtz useful summary of what we know about himJun 16 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Tugaleaks - Cópia para fins legais de um CD ou DVD pode vir a ter novas regras mais justas http://goo.gl/MMerx #pt #arJun 16 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Photographers arrested in Spain http://ur1.ca/ec8m6Jun 16 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #NSA's Favorite Techdirt Posts Of The Week - http://bit.ly/11IcScl ha! nicely doneJun 16 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why I will NOT use 23andme.com genetical analysis. It's in the consent document:"If we are required to do so by law, 2... http://b1t.it/dqPyJun 16 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Why I will NOT use 23andme.com genetical analysis. It's in… .::. Size~: 263.1 KBJun 16 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to photograph riots. - http://bit.ly/1248SBQ not that I want to, but wise words if you doJun 16 10:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Legalizing solely marijuana is misguided goal http://ur1.ca/ec95bJun 16 11:48
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DaemonFCI'm downloading a timebombed copy of Windows 8.Jun 16 12:28
DaemonFCHopefully, I can install it in Virtualbox and just use it to print off coupons.Jun 16 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Anonymous US gov't spokesman claim presented as certainty http://ur1.ca/ec9n6Jun 16 12:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2013-Jun-19: Philipp Hoschka gives a talk entitled: "HTML5 and The Open Web Platform for Automotive" - http://kwz.me/2hJun 16 12:51
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DaemonFCSetting up Windows 8 in Virtualbox.Jun 16 12:59
DaemonFCNow we'll see if that stupid program works.Jun 16 12:59
DaemonFC:PJun 16 12:59
DaemonFCApparently, after 90 days you can use the software license manager to extend the trial for another 30 days.Jun 16 13:00
DaemonFCSo I should only have to reinstall every 120 days.Jun 16 13:00
DaemonFCThis setup program is as slow as the seven year itch.Jun 16 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Noticias ao Minuto - Recebe 1,4 milhões para transformar gemas de ovo em antibióticos http://goo.gl/OTF8x #pt #scitek #healthJun 16 13:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Noticias ao Minuto - Recebe 1,4 milhões para transformar gemas de ovo em antibióticos .::. Size~: 55.79 KBJun 16 13:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2727780Jun 16 13:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Choqok Twitter client handed over to community http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Choqok-Twitter-client-handed-over-to-community-1887989.html very good application, my favouriteJun 16 13:24
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schestowitz"Are there any recommendations for a Choqok-like client in the interim?"Jun 16 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Brasil http://ur1.ca/eca1yJun 16 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slam dunk http://ur1.ca/eca23Jun 16 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Scripps reporters branded "hackers" http://ur1.ca/eca60Jun 16 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 2/27/2013 -- US Navy Labs create Plasma Spheres (rings) using #HAARP - YouTube http://goo.gl/EOF0J #micJun 16 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ARLIER THIS month the server running Techrights got migrated and upgraded (from Linux http://ur1.ca/58b5k 2.6.18-308.el http://ur1.ca/eca7zJun 16 13:56
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schestowitziophk: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/06/16/techrights-migration/Jun 16 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Pardon Edward Snowden | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government http://goo.gl/5eLPoJun 16 14:09
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2730871Jun 16 14:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Migration and Upgrading of #Techrights http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/06/16/techrights-migration/ rough notes, nothing too fascinating (still work in progress)Jun 16 14:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Experimental coding project opens up Sony SmartWatch http://ur1.ca/ecac9 #sony #openwashingJun 16 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Former NSA Whistleblower Bill #Binney: The #NSA Is Making Itself Dysfunctional With Too Much Data | Techdirt http://goo.gl/7734bJun 16 14:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Options http://ur1.ca/ecacpJun 16 14:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Experimental coding project opens up Sony SmartWatch - Open Source Insider .::. Size~: 28.81 KBJun 16 14:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Success http://ur1.ca/ecacuJun 16 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Senator Biden Teaches President Obama A Lesson About NSA Spying From The Past | Techdirt http://goo.gl/gn4MhJun 16 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #jitsi is not #skype - Jitsi is better, has better noise cancellation, better chat facilities,& it's private+audible. FOSS leapfrogs blobs.Jun 16 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] THE RECENT SNOOPING SCANDALS: #GERMANY MOST SNOOPED COUNTRY IN #EU http://goo.gl/rfGrg #nsaJun 16 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu up and running on Android min PCs with RK3188 chips http://ur1.ca/ecaf6 #ubuntu #linux #androidJun 16 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: THE RECENT SNOOPING SCANDALS: GERMANY MOST SNOOPED COUNTRY IN EU .::. Size~: 69.24 KBJun 16 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] System76 Jumps on the Haswell Bandwagon with Two New Ubuntu Laptops http://ur1.ca/ecafv #gnu #linux #ubuntuJun 16 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] WPA2 is vulnerable http://ur1.ca/ecagp #security #privacy #wap #wirelessJun 16 14:28
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schestowitzFB is trying to stay relevant http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/06/15/facebook-adopts-twitters-golden-child-the-hashtag/Jun 16 14:38
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schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22882119Jun 16 14:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] SCO v. IBM reopened http://ur1.ca/ecajeJun 16 14:39
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DaemonFCIt's kind of depressing to see all the people using utorrent.Jun 16 14:43
DaemonFCEspecially now that it is spyware/adware.Jun 16 14:43
DaemonFCI saw that article on GNOME's self-destruction.Jun 16 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Following http://ur1.ca/ecal9Jun 16 14:46
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DaemonFCI have to agree. People who love it love it, and people who hate it really hate it.Jun 16 14:46
DaemonFCIt looks like 90/10 in favor of "really hate it".Jun 16 14:46
DaemonFCThere's now at least four different ways of using it.Jun 16 14:47
DaemonFCShell, Classic Mode, Cinnamon, and MATE.Jun 16 14:47
DaemonFCEach one has its own peculiarities.Jun 16 14:47
DaemonFCCinnamon has basically turned into another Unity.Jun 16 14:48
DaemonFCLinux Mint developers don't really care if/how it works on other distributions, so it has been abandoned by other distributions.Jun 16 14:49
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DaemonFCDistribution specific software has a way of becoming buggy and ultimately untenable.Jun 16 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Math art http://ur1.ca/ecamsJun 16 14:51
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101308586Jun 16 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 13:53:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz how does an indovidual close this hole?Jun 16 15:03
schestowitznew specs or another standardJun 16 15:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/346258876498321409?refsrc=emailJun 16 15:06
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jun 16 15:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/346258876498321409Jun 16 15:07
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jun 16 15:07
schestowitz"♺ @schestowitz #Jitsi beats #skype… https://jitsi.org/  better noise cancellation/chat facilities…private+audible. #FOSS leapfrogs blobs"Jun 16 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] QFusion Game Engine Advanced With New Features http://ur1.ca/ecaq6Jun 16 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] QFusion Game Engine Advanced With New Features .::. Size~: 18.11 KBJun 16 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google: The Thin Line between #Search and #Surveillance http://ur1.ca/ecaqc use ixquick dot com insteadJun 16 15:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google: The Thin Line between Search and Surveillance « FOSS ForceFOSS Force .::. Size~: 49.9 KBJun 16 15:11
schestowitzhttp://fossforce.com/2013/06/seeking-surveillance-safe-search-engines/Jun 16 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seeking Surveillance Safe Search Engines « FOSS ForceFOSS Force .::. Size~: 55.83 KBJun 16 15:12
schestowitz"Also try https://startpage.com doesnt record your IP address! Been using it for a while, and although ‘instant’ doesnt work still a good search engine IMHO"Jun 16 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Startpage Web Search .::. Size~: 31.54 KBJun 16 15:12
schestowitz"Indeed it is Peter! It’s actually owned by the same people who do Ixquick. It’s nice to hear from someone who actually has some experience using it."Jun 16 15:12
schestowitzInteresting map http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Meyers_b11_s0476a.jpgJun 16 15:31
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schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_raceJun 16 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 137.83 KBJun 16 15:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jolla smartphone: First carrier takes the plunge http://ur1.ca/ecaxp #jolla #linux #nokia #meegoJun 16 15:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jolla smartphone: First carrier takes the plunge | ZDNet .::. Size~: 45.63 KBJun 16 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ardour 3.2 adds video support http://ur1.ca/ecaqz #gnu #linux the focusJun 16 15:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ardour 3.2 adds video support - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 53.45 KBJun 16 15:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It's not surveillance, that's such a dirty word. Lets call it Preemptive Risk International Security Measures. #PRISM. Oops ;-)Jun 16 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2013-Jun-21: Phil Archer participates at a panel entitled: Achieving Interoperability with Core Vocabularies" - http://kwz.me/2hJun 16 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C Presentations - Advanced Search .::. Size~: 103.9 KBJun 16 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Hezbollah fighting to stop control of Syria http://ur1.ca/ecb0gJun 16 15:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 6 Unidirectional CF EDCs - YouTube http://goo.gl/zDNb1 #edc #preppersJun 16 15:54
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101308709Jun 16 15:54
TechrightsBot-tr@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 14:17:49 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz So, the user can do nothing but wait?Jun 16 15:54
schestowitzThere are some privately maintained enc algos, but they're not widely supported. The NSA has vast teams of people whose job it to crack enc.Jun 16 15:55
schestowitz*isJun 16 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It's not surveillance, that's such a dirty word. Lets call it Preemptive Risk Insurance Security Measures. #PRISM. Oops ;-)Jun 16 16:04
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Sosumiis to crack or bypass encryption altogetherJun 16 16:05
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schestowitzSamsung to produce new iPad screens: report http://www.zdnet.com/samsung-to-produce-new-ipad-screens-report-7000016840/Jun 16 16:12
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2731138Jun 16 16:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google: The Thin Line between #Search and #Surveillance http://fossforce.com/2013/06/google-the-thin-line-between-search-and-surveillance/ use ixquick dot com insteadJun 16 16:26
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schestowitz"The author is confused about copyright being a basic human right. It is not, it is a crated right because ideas and expressions are not actual property. Ideas and expressions can be enjoyed by everyone without loss by others. In fact, it can be said that ideas and expression only have value when shared and that the actual value is proportional to the number of people enjoying the ideas. Copyright was made to encourage sharing on paperJun 16 16:27
schestowitzby granting temporary monopolies over publishing. Technology has changed so too must the law."Jun 16 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @andyc Next episode of #tinap will be 'sometime this year'. Just so you know.Jun 16 16:31
schestowitziophk: Phoronic chose the same weekend as us to migrate http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM4OTkJun 16 16:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux 3.10-rc6 Kernel Brings In More Fixes http://ur1.ca/ecbaa #linux #kernelJun 16 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When Linux 3.10 is out it'll be the equivalent of 2.6.50. #linuxJun 16 16:33
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iophkIt's a trend?  :)Jun 16 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Perspective http://ur1.ca/ecbbcJun 16 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shadow http://ur1.ca/ecbbh #cat #homourJun 16 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2009: “IDC research finds that Linux users are clearly satisfied about their choice to deploy Linux” http://ur1.ca/ecbbu #gnu #linuxJun 16 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Filmmaker picks a copyright fight with “Happy Birthday” http://ur1.ca/ecbc5 #copyrightJun 16 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] USDA responded to WTO http://ur1.ca/ecbflJun 16 16:54
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101309126Jun 16 17:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 15:35:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz my intuition tells me there's more to this response, but not in a way that my current experience (or lack of) enables.Jun 16 17:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2728035Jun 16 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #PeppermintOS 4 out now  http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/peppermint-os-4-out-now #gnu #linuxJun 16 17:05
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schestowitz"Ah, thanks for sharing."Jun 16 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] There's dynamic client registration in pump.io; see http://identi.ca/url/75977355Jun 16 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] So it's an extra POST, but you do it once per site. I don't think it's prohibitive.Jun 16 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: pump.io/API.md at master · e14n/pump.io · GitHub .::. Size~: 54.29 KBJun 16 17:06
schestowitzMinceR: http://3.asset.soup.io/asset/4469/1939_5e40.gifJun 16 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants http://ur1.ca/ec56r it's only getting worse, illegal tooJun 16 17:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants | Politics and Law - CNET News .::. Size~: 86.74 KBJun 16 17:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NSA rignleader Keith Alexander should be sacked, but it's unlikely to happen as that would be an admission of misconduct. #privacyJun 16 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Now that the illegalities of the #NSA are public knowledge *all around the world* can stop focusing on it and move on to other subjectsJun 16 17:11
Sosumihttp://www.globalresearch.ca/the-history-of-americas-secret-wars-corporate-espionage-and-the-outsourcing-of-national-security/5338982Jun 16 17:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The History of America’s Secret Wars: Corporate Espionage and the Outsourcing of National Security  |  Global Research .::. Size~: 97.25 KBJun 16 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] As +Adrianus Warmenhoven once said: "There is a fine line between being watched and being a prisoner."#PRISM etc put u... http://b1t.it/dqSgJun 16 17:19
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schestowitziophk: got message from RMS:Jun 16 17:20
schestowitz>     I've been thinking, since the show is intended to promote FreeJun 16 17:21
schestowitz>     software as a tool assuring privacy (or at least auditing code forJun 16 17:21
schestowitz>     privacy), do you prefer speaking over SIP with encryption? The FSF canJun 16 17:21
schestowitz>     facilitate this, I think.Jun 16 17:21
schestowitz> Jun 16 17:21
schestowitz> Is there free software which does that?  I don't know of any.Jun 16 17:21
schestowitzOn my desktop I have half a dozen SIP clients; my favourite is jitsi, which I first tried 2+ years ago while it was in beta. I use it more than 10 hours a day. On Android, which most of my family uses, Linphone (Free software) does SIP (with TLS).Jun 16 17:21
schestowitzBy the way, minutes ago CNET made this public:Jun 16 17:21
schestowitzNSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrantsJun 16 17:21
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/Jun 16 17:21
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schestowitzMaybe one worth posting in stallman.org as it's now confirmed by the NSA and not just conjecture.Jun 16 17:21
schestowitzThis weekend I saw people starting to promote PGP. It seems like so-called "paranoia" is the new normal. My cellphones, which are obligatory for work, are bought and topped up only with cash (no ID at any stage although I researched shops and published analysis showing that some UK-based shops mandate ID) and when unused or inside the house the batteries are removed. I think that prism-break.org and other advocacy focusing on freedom Jun 16 17:21
schestowitzas it relates to privacy can help the Free software movement. Freedom is not free; and 'free' services often mine our data to make us their product/s -- something which a growing number of people can understand now.Jun 16 17:21
iophkCoolJun 16 17:25
iophkI hope there is new growth in using SIP over Free Software softphonesJun 16 17:26
schestowitzAnd Glyn:Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz>>> I fear this might be my old public key - I don't have the private keyJun 16 17:28
schestowitz>>> any more.  my new one is here:Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz>>> Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz>>> http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/glyn-moodys-pgp-key.htmlJun 16 17:28
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schestowitz>> Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz>> You might want to remove the old one from the keyserver.Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz> Jun 16 17:28
schestowitz> I don't have the revocation cert for it - it got lost when I reformattedJun 16 17:28
schestowitz> a system...that's why I added the comment on the web page aboveJun 16 17:28
schestowitzI think that this whole NSA fiasco will have people rethink services they use not just in so-called 'clouds'. Will interview RMS about it next week...Jun 16 17:28
schestowitzFortunately for me, my wife totally understand and cooperates on issues of FOSS and privacy. My parents -- barely. But they use Android (we bought them tablets).Jun 16 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Derya Unutmaz http://ur1.ca/ecbogJun 16 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Obama in #China http://ur1.ca/ecbpkJun 16 17:31
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2731243Jun 16 17:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ardour 3.2 adds video support http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Ardour-3-2-adds-video-support-1888652.html #gnu #linux the focusJun 16 17:32
schestowitz"Very good news :D"Jun 16 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Diaspora http://ur1.ca/ecbpy #freedom #privacyJun 16 17:38
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iophkA lot of mail software does PGP poorly.Jun 16 17:40
iophkThere could be a lot better integration.Jun 16 17:40
iophkThis was an obvious next step for Thunderbird, but devel seems to have suddenly dropped off.Jun 16 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] NAACP launching civil disobedience protests http://ur1.ca/ecbxvJun 16 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Turkey unrest: more clashes in Istanbul as Erdoğan holds rally - http://bit.ly/1bKnX1p sadly, I won't be going to turkey for my hols...Jun 16 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TAFTA: la bataille post ACTA est lancée! - http://bit.ly/12P4f6o good analysis (v Måns Rullgård) #TTIPJun 16 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NSA Leaks Are Forcing More Transparency on Both Companies and The Government - http://bit.ly/124Kxfl the response equally importantJun 16 18:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The NSA Leaks Are Forcing More Transparency on Both Companies and The Government | Freedom of the Press Foundation .::. Size~: 22.6 KBJun 16 18:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Health and Medical: Back Pain: Causes and cures http://goo.gl/FVCQR #docsJun 16 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Zero Knowledge for Cloud Storage: A Proposed Internet Privacy Mandate - http://bit.ly/11qV9Xf we need something like this #nsaJun 16 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Snowden NSA Claims Partially Confirmed, Says Rep. Jerrold Nadler - http://bit.ly/11EPUC0 in this rapidly-developing story...Jun 16 18:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Snowden NSA Claims Partially Confirmed, Says Rep. Jerrold Nadler - Slashdot .::. Size~: 133.3 KBJun 16 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Hi! This blog has become kind of Dianara-centric lately, but you know… The program is in very active development thes http://ur1.ca/ecc2mJun 16 18:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dianara 0.7 is out! | Jan+KDE .::. Size~: 72.56 KBJun 16 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In Turkey doctors helping th eprotestors in #geziparkı  are arrested. Last week they arrested their lawyers. Turkey... http://b1t.it/dqSDJun 16 18:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - In Turkey doctors helping the protestors in #geziparkı  are… .::. Size~: 285.76 KBJun 16 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] What Is the Government’s Agenda? by Paul Craig Roberts http://goo.gl/hxWoPJun 16 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Just in time for identi.ca's migration to !pumpio this week, !Dianara 0.7 is out! http://ur1.ca/ecc7vJun 16 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dianara 0.7 is out! | Jan+KDE .::. Size~: 72.8 KBJun 16 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] In Turkey doctors helping the protestors in #geziparkı  are arrested. Last week they arrested their lawyers. Turke... http://b1t.it/dqSDJun 16 18:29
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iophkhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2013061516065416Jun 16 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Six ways to protect yourself from the #NSA and other eavesdroppers http://ur1.ca/eccb6 "1) Abandon the cloud"Jun 16 18:38
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schestowitziophk: seen it, thanksJun 16 18:39
iophkIt's bizarreJun 16 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A third of American adults now own tablet computers http://ur1.ca/eccc9 #linux #android will benefit from thisJun 16 18:39
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iophkSCO had nothing the first time around.  Now it's less than nothing.Jun 16 18:39
iophkYet the judge is letting them have another go.Jun 16 18:40
schestowitzPJ declared CO dead many times beforeJun 16 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ditching #MySQL : #RedHat shows its prowess in spin http://ur1.ca/eccda http://ur1.ca/eccdb http://ur1.ca/eccdcJun 16 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What KDE can learn from Cinnamon http://ur1.ca/ecceh #kde #gnu #linuxJun 16 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cost to Store All US Phonecalls Made in a Year in Cloud Storage so it could be Datamined | Internet Archive Blogs http://goo.gl/veEMMJun 16 18:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What KDE can learn from Cinnamon | Netrunner MAG .::. Size~: 64.81 KBJun 16 18:46
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iophkMaybe the ease of surveillance is the driving factor behind adoption of "the cloud"Jun 16 18:48
iophkEarlier pushes for hosted services didn't take off for whatever reason, including privacy.Jun 16 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2013-Jun-21: Phil Archer gives a talk entitled: "The evolution of the eGov Core Vocabularies and ADMS" - http://kwz.me/2hJun 16 18:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C Presentations - Advanced Search .::. Size~: 103.9 KBJun 16 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Another Lebanese civil war http://ur1.ca/ecch1Jun 16 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Updated Debian 7: 7.1 released http://ur1.ca/ebycn #debian #gnu #linuxJun 16 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux Setup - Gregor Herrmann, Debian Developer http://ur1.ca/eccj1 #debian #gnu #linuxJun 16 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wie das im Polizeistaat Freistaat Bayern so ist mit der Justizministerin. #Merkbefreit, wie wir alten Hasen sagen. Ins... http://b1t.it/dqSNJun 16 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NSA Has Code Running in #Linux #Kernel and #Android http://ur1.ca/eccjeJun 16 18:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Wie das im Polizeistaat Freistaat Bayern so ist mit der… .::. Size~: 267.22 KBJun 16 18:59
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schestowitzBlech http://www.freebsdnews.net/2013/06/13/linux-skype-4-0-0-8-freebsd-working/Jun 16 19:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Skype 4.0.0.8 on FreeBSD working | FreeBSD News .::. Size~: 27.74 KBJun 16 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Half-Life 2 for Linux Finally Updated to Fix Save Game Corruption http://ur1.ca/ecclp #gnu #linux #halflifeJun 16 19:06
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/100129605#notice-101309808Jun 16 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.93 KBJun 16 19:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2731869Jun 16 19:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA Has Code Running in #Linux #Kernel and #Android http://news.softpedia.com/news/NSA-Has-Legitimate-Code-Running-in-Linux-Kernel-and-Android-361289.shtmlJun 16 19:07
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schestowitz"how dangerous is this? is there any line of code in SElinux that can go against our privacy?"Jun 16 19:07
schestowitzEncryption with intricate back doors which only the mathematicians at the NSA can understand and circumvent (the NSA recruits loads of people like this, including at hackers' conferences, not just colleges) is what worries me the most. I don't have evidence to show this, but given what we know about the NSA, it wants security for itself and none for everyone else; it's an instrument of power and power for one nation/govt. only. They Jun 16 19:10
schestowitzalso ban encryption which is FOSS-based in nations like NK and Syria. They try embargo through Google Code and Sourceforge.Jun 16 19:10
schestowitz"Such criticism of the treatment of Manning could make Hong Kong judges less willing to accept any U.S. request for extradition."Jun 16 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "treatment of Manning could make Hong Kong judges less willing to accept any U.S. request for extradition." http://ur1.ca/eccpmJun 16 19:14
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schestowitzPJ was echoing a lot of corporate press propaganda against Snowden, she should be more sceptical of those, e.g. http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-snowden-gone-hong-kong-hotel-20130610,0,6912122.storyJun 16 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Edward Snowden gone from Hong Kong hotel, whereabouts unknown - latimes.com .::. Size~: 221.51 KBJun 16 19:17
schestowitzActually, it wasn't too hard to find him, but to harm him is harderJun 16 19:18
iophkHe's open about where he is but much of the corporate press still labels him as "hiding"Jun 16 19:18
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2731810Jun 16 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A third of American adults now own tablet computers http://www.zdnet.com/a-third-of-american-adults-now-own-tablet-computers-7000016867/ #linux #android will benefit from thisJun 16 19:21
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schestowitz"I really hate those keyboards. Hopefully they improve with time."Jun 16 19:21
schestowitziophk: he speaks to the press thereJun 16 19:21
schestowitzNot sure how one can 'leak' public policyJun 16 19:22
schestowitzHe informed the public using docs that should have been public all along.Jun 16 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why #PRISM kills the cloud http://ur1.ca/eccsp #fogcomputing #privacy #suicide #darwintestJun 16 19:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why PRISM kills the cloud | Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 102.66 KBJun 16 19:23
iophkThere's interesting, in an unfortunate kind of way, spin in regards to metadata vs data.  They seem to think that any level of metadata collection is not an invasion of privacy at all.Jun 16 19:23
iophkActually with the standardized headers that are used, it can be more automated and thus encompass a larger population.Jun 16 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #snowden should not even be labeled a "leaker". He informed the public using docs that should have been public *all along*. #nsa #thugsJun 16 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To understand Edward Snowden's motivations, look to Aaron Swartz http://ur1.ca/eccu0# #swartz leaked to #wikileaksJun 16 19:24
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Popehat/status/344229294412800000Jun 16 19:25
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jun 16 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark Jaquith agrees that @ggreenwald should release the #nsa docs, or pass them to #wikileaks http://ur1.ca/eaamk http://ur1.ca/eb8vmJun 16 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Conspiracy Thinking and Intolerance http://goo.gl/7uR57 #911 #psyopsJun 16 19:31
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schestowitzhttps://community.rackspace.com/general/f/34/p/791/1347#1347Jun 16 19:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Expert says Kiwis under constant #surveillance http://ur1.ca/eccyu it's a global issue that's not going away. Ask #dotcomJun 16 19:34
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schestowitzhttp://johnkoenig.com/patents-illustrate-crafty-surveillance-techniques/Jun 16 19:34
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schestowitzCarlyle Group connections: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-06-10/booz-allen-contracts-seen-at-risk-with-leaked-government-secretsJun 16 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Booz Allen U.S. Contracts Seen at Risk With Leaked Secrets - Businessweek .::. Size~: 67.07 KBJun 16 19:36
schestowitz!google techrights Carlyle Group Jun 16 19:36
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2011 January 07 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/01/07/Jun 16 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Links 26/7/2012: Serious Sam 3 for GNU/Linux, Rekonq ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2012/07/26/rekonq-reaches-1-0/Jun 16 19:36
schestowitzhttp://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-06-10/news/sns-rt-us-usa-security-contractor-falloutbre95911p-20130610_1_nsa-leak-good-contractors-general-dynamicsJun 16 19:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NSA leak prompts questions over U.S. reliance on contractors - Chicago Tribune .::. Size~: 44.35 KBJun 16 19:36
schestowitz"Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp"Jun 16 19:37
schestowitzFollow the moneyJun 16 19:37
schestowitzJust some way to embezzle taxpayers money and use it for high wages and illegal surveillance on the taxpayersJun 16 19:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2731869Jun 16 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA Has Code Running in #Linux #Kernel and #Android http://news.softpedia.com/news/NSA-Has-Legitimate-Code-Running-in-Linux-Kernel-and-Android-361289.shtmlJun 16 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: NSA Has Legitimate Code Running in Linux Kernel and Android .::. Size~: 55.32 KBJun 16 19:37
schestowitz"By "no evidence" you mean = purely guessing and scaring people for no reason :)"Jun 16 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Expert says Kiwis under constant #surveillance - http://bit.ly/17R0IFs now is time to expose & address this global problem (v @schestowitz)Jun 16 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Expert Says Kiwis Under Constant Surveillance | Stuff.co.nz .::. Size~: 75.62 KBJun 16 19:39
schestowitzThe NSA has bad track record. See  http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/nsa_helps_micro_1.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/12/dual_ec_drbg_ad.html http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19990903S0014 http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2007/11/securitymatters_1115 http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/nsa_backdoors_i.html The NSAJun 16 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How NSA access was built into Windows | Telepolis .::. Size~: 52.15 KBJun 16 19:39
schestowitzs contributions to Linux are brought in not in source code form, not high-level anyway, which I found conspicuous as far back as 2007.Jun 16 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: NSA Helps Microsoft with Windows Vista .::. Size~: 97.84 KBJun 16 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: Dual_EC_DRBG Added to Windows Vista .::. Size~: 89.35 KBJun 16 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ::Brought to you by TechWeb .::. Size~: 33.47 KBJun 16 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Did NSA Put a Secret Backdoor in New Encryption Standard? .::. Size~: 100.55 KBJun 16 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: NSA Backdoors in Crypto AG Ciphering Machines .::. Size~: 56.6 KBJun 16 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The NSA in Windows http://ur1.ca/ecd1h http://ur1.ca/ecd1i http://ur1.ca/45szu http://ur1.ca/ecd1j http://ur1.ca/ecd1k http://ur1.ca/ecd1lJun 16 19:41
schestowitzI should dent itJun 16 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How NSA access was built into Windows | Telepolis .::. Size~: 52.15 KBJun 16 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: NSA Helps Microsoft with Windows Vista .::. Size~: 97.84 KBJun 16 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: Dual_EC_DRBG Added to Windows Vista .::. Size~: 89.35 KBJun 16 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ::Brought to you by TechWeb .::. Size~: 33.51 KBJun 16 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Did NSA Put a Secret Backdoor in New Encryption Standard? .::. Size~: 100.55 KBJun 16 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: NSA Backdoors in Crypto AG Ciphering Machines .::. Size~: 56.6 KBJun 16 19:41
schestowitzArticle $4 is goneJun 16 19:42
schestowitzIt was titled "Chip Design Flaw Could Subvert Encryption"Jun 16 19:42
schestowitz"Jun 16 19:42
schestowitz     Shamir said that if an intelligence organization discovered such a flaw, security software on a computer with a compromised chip could be “trivially broken with a single chosen message.” The attacker would send a “poisoned” encrypted message to a protected computer, he wrote. It would then be possible to compute the value of the secret key used by the targeted system.Jun 16 19:42
schestowitz    Trouble with Design SecretsJun 16 19:42
schestowitz    “Millions of PCs can be attacked simultaneously, without having to manipulate the operating environment of each one of them individually,” Shamir wrote. Jun 16 19:42
schestowitz"Jun 16 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NSA's contributions to #Linux are brought in not in source code form, not high-level anyway, which I found conspicuous as far back as 2007.Jun 16 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat's latest press releases (from its summit) were mostly vomit-inducing, with unprecedented density for the "cloud" buzzword.Jun 16 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brutal crackdown on Turkish protests - http://bit.ly/19GLDqO depressing; I fear this may end badly #turkeyJun 16 19:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Brutal crackdown on Turkish protests - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 53.14 KBJun 16 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who watches the watchers? Apparently, no one http://ur1.ca/ecd3j more importantly, who can charge them with crimes? Nobody. Impunity.Jun 16 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who watches the watchers? Apparently, no one | Jay Bookman  | www.ajc.com .::. Size~: 90.21 KBJun 16 19:48
schestowitzhttp://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/10/3444043/us-spy-programs-raise-ire-both.htmlJun 16 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WASHINGTON: Senator says program goes deeper than believed - Politics Wires - MiamiHerald.com .::. Size~: 106.56 KBJun 16 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #NSA is an extension of the #CIA in some sense. The CIA is good at killing people and funding "rebels". #NSA is more technical.Jun 16 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Corp is strongly connected to the notorious Carlyle Group. For the uninitiated: http://ur1.ca/ecd5eJun 16 19:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Carlyle Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 169.35 KBJun 16 19:51
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/google-fisa-requests/Jun 16 19:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Seeks OK From Feds to Disclose Stats on Secret Court Orders | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 120.8 KBJun 16 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Find out where your cloud provider’s data centers are located - http://bit.ly/12B1zb5 no, location on its own irrelevant; ownership countsJun 16 19:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One lesson from the NSA scandal: Find out where your cloud provider’s data centers are located — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 73.72 KBJun 16 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FBI guy: "all digital communications are [stored] — there's a way to look at digital communications in the past." http://ur1.ca/ecd7zJun 16 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Turkish EU minister: protesters will be treated as terrorists - http://bit.ly/ZVtvUt if so, #Turkey no longer a civilised countryJun 16 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Big Is the NSA Police State, Really? - Philip Bump - The Atlantic Wire .::. Size~: 77.09 KBJun 16 19:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Turkish EU minister: protesters will be treated as terrorists - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 64.31 KBJun 16 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Austerity myth http://ur1.ca/ecd8lJun 16 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #apple alliance with #microsoft (against #linux #android and FOSS) goes further than #swpats and #frand now http://ur1.ca/ecd93Jun 16 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2013: March - June Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 1285.36 KBJun 16 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Boots Google for Microsoft in Siri - Digits - WSJ .::. Size~: 82.55 KBJun 16 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Überwachungsprogramm Prism: Innenpolitiker fordern ein deutsches Google - http://bit.ly/ZVudkG now that's *very* interesting #deJun 16 19:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Überwachungsprogramm Prism: Politiker fordern ein Staats-Google - SPIEGEL ONLINE .::. Size~: 85.79 KBJun 16 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Leaking something like private firm's trade secret should not be classified as id to bringing public policy to the public or #warcrime docsJun 16 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People@corp-press now turn attention to demonising #snowden (personal life, like Manning); all that's left from anger: http://ur1.ca/ecdbbJun 16 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACLU Files Lawsuit Challenging NSA's Patriot Act Phone Surveillance  | American Civil Liberties Union .::. Size~: 81.97 KBJun 16 20:01
schestowitziophk: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57588941/edward-snowden-i-am-not-here-to-hide/Jun 16 20:02
schestowitzhe makes that clearJun 16 20:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Edward Snowden: "I am not here to hide" - CBS News .::. Size~: 119.22 KBJun 16 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Senators propose bill to declassify orders behind NSA spying http://ur1.ca/ecdbh which should free #snowdenJun 16 20:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Senators propose bill to declassify orders behind NSA spying | The Verge .::. Size~: 147.25 KBJun 16 20:03
schestowitziophk: Consumer 'Watchdog' http://www.pcworld.com/article/2041567/group-wants-antitrust-agencies-to-block-googles-waze-deal.htmlJun 16 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Group wants antitrust agencies to block Google's Waze deal | PCWorld .::. Size~: 69.51 KBJun 16 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corporate press falsely tries to label #snowden as "in hiding" (patently false). He even responded himself: http://ur1.ca/ecdceJun 16 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Edward Snowden: "I am not here to hide" - CBS News .::. Size~: 119.22 KBJun 16 20:04
schestowitzhttp://www.c-spanvideo.org/event/220078#Jun 16 20:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cybersecurity Threats - C-SPAN Video Library .::. Size~: 13.65 KBJun 16 20:05
iophkSnowden's statement was pre-emptive, but since there is an agenda to follow, it is ignored. Jun 16 20:06
iophkI'm surprised he has been able to stay out of the press as much as he has.Jun 16 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "supreme court justices are favoring the corporate interests that finance their election campaigns" #scotus #corrupt http://ur1.ca/ecddaJun 16 20:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Business donations to judges’ campaigns often equal friendly rulings | McClatchy .::. Size~: 77.94 KBJun 16 20:06
iophkI guess M$, Failbook and Skype all want that to blow over quietly.Jun 16 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #scotus is corrupted in the same way #us #senate is -- it's all down to 'politics', meaning that corporations control http://ur1.ca/bpuzgJun 16 20:08
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schestowitziophk: some people are back to their 'cloud'Jun 16 20:08
schestowitzPress propaganda  http://www.theeagle.com/news/politics/article_543c16e1-ce45-5233-baee-e1033b1489d6.htmlJun 16 20:09
iophkIf it's encrypted *before* transfer to the remote host, then it's less bad.Jun 16 20:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Current, former officials back secret surveillance   - The Eagle: Politics .::. Size~: 262.45 KBJun 16 20:09
schestowitzTechDirt leaked their talking points memoJun 16 20:09
schestowitzThe PR campaignJun 16 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] US is far more interested in structure of law and vengeance than in justice. Hence if they can claim it was a crime at the time (1/2)Jun 16 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] they will prosecute nonetheless and even if it is unjust to do so after (2/2)Jun 16 20:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/amac/status/344534042454130691Jun 16 20:11
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jun 16 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #treason is destroying a nation's civil liberties. Patriotism is defending against this treason. http://ur1.ca/ecdfg http://ur1.ca/ecdfhJun 16 20:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Treason charges for Snowden would be rare, challenging .::. Size~: 30.2 KBJun 16 20:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No, Edward Snowden probably didn’t commit treason .::. Size~: 121.8 KBJun 16 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] And this is real reason; to be able to selectively blackmail & prosecute political opposition in future for past things. #NSA must goJun 16 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "German Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger characterised PRISM as "dangerous"." http://ur1.ca/ecdgdJun 16 20:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Europe rallies against PRISM- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 62.44 KBJun 16 20:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2727491Jun 16 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Best Newbie Distro? You Say Linux Mint. http://fossforce.com/2013/06/best-newbie-distro-you-say-linux-mint/ #gnu #linux #linutmintJun 16 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Best Newbie Distro? You Say Linux Mint. « FOSS ForceFOSS Force .::. Size~: 64.13 KBJun 16 20:15
schestowitz"I used to , up until about a year ago. Now I would go with Hybryde, due to the ease of checking out various desktop environments/window managers"Jun 16 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Government's Word Games When Talking About #NSA Domestic Spying http://ur1.ca/ecdq1 how to lie, still w/o liabilityJun 16 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Government's Word Games When Talking About NSA Domestic Spying | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 34.81 KBJun 16 20:36
schestowitzhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-14/fbi-launches-criminal-investigation-into-edward-snowden/4753094Jun 16 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FBI confirms ex-CIA contractor Edward Snowden is under criminal investigation - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 39.65 KBJun 16 20:37
schestowitzCrime of being awesome:-)Jun 16 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apple is driving up the cost of stuff http://ur1.ca/ecdrq #drm #ebook #pricefixingJun 16 20:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Exec Eddy Cue Fends Off DOJ E-Book Allegations - John Paczkowski - Media - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 66.08 KBJun 16 20:39
schestowitzihttp://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/06/13/nsa_surveillance_leaks_suggest_microsoft_may_have_misled_public_on_skype.htmlJun 16 20:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NSA surveillance leaks suggest Microsoft may have misled public on Skype eavesdropping. .::. Size~: 91.03 KBJun 16 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "336,837 emails will be generated, at a minimum; each person has two Representatives and one Senator." http://ur1.ca/ecdsjJun 16 20:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla-backed Stop Watching Us blows past 100,000 signatures to fight NSA surveillance - The Next Web .::. Size~: 48.47 KBJun 16 20:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rothken/status/344152045206519810Jun 16 20:43
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jun 16 20:43
schestowitzor don't use 'clouds' at allJun 16 20:43
schestowitz"Economics play an important role in acting as a check on Gov behavior - use cloud services in privacy protective nations & US will change."Jun 16 20:43
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324688404578548483924738800.html?mod=us_news_newsreelJun 16 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: North Korea Seeks Talks With U.S. - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 156.82 KBJun 16 20:47
schestowitz"offered no indication it would move to wind down its nuclear-weapons program to initiate dialogue."Jun 16 20:48
schestowitzMurdochJun 16 20:48
schestowitzAlways have to demonise themJun 16 20:48
schestowitzHpw many nuclear weapons does the US have?Jun 16 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] North Korea says it wants to talk to the US (today's news) and the corporate press already spins that as the country being /more/ evil.Jun 16 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple. Think the same. http://ur1.ca/ecdv7Jun 16 20:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Design Student Creates Side-by-Side iOS 6 and iOS 7 Icon Comparison | TIME.com .::. Size~: 93.44 KBJun 16 20:51
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schestowitzhttp://nplusonemag.com/leave-your-cellphone-at-homeJun 16 20:53
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schestowitzworst ida everJun 16 20:53
schestowitzif you want to have an anonymous cellphoneJun 16 20:53
schestowitznever xwatch on at homeJun 16 20:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Patent on a simple of timing in IVF http://ur1.ca/ecdwnJun 16 20:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2013: March - June Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 1285.36 KBJun 16 20:58
MinceR(animated) https://ribanc.com/files/tumblr_moc82f3VkX1qjqzoeo4_250.gifJun 16 20:58
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iophkhttp://www.whistleblower.org/blog/44-2013/2760-gap-statement-on-edward-snowden-a-nsa-domestic-surveillanceJun 16 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GAP Statement on Edward Snowden & NSA Domestic Surveillance - Government Accountability Project .::. Size~: 42.18 KBJun 16 21:09
iophkhttp://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/13/us-walmart-hires-temps-idUSBRE95C05820130613Jun 16 21:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exclusive - Wal-Mart's everyday hiring strategy: Add more temps | Reuters .::. Size~: 92.24 KBJun 16 21:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2731896Jun 16 21:23
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Half-Life 2 for Linux Finally Updated to Fix Save Game Corruption http://news.softpedia.com/news/Half-Life-2-for-Linux-Finally-Updated-to-Fix-Save-Game-Corruption-360856.shtmlJun 16 21:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Half-Life 2 for Linux Finally Updated to Fix Save Game Corruption .::. Size~: 52.07 KBJun 16 21:23
schestowitz"finnally"Jun 16 21:23
schestowitzMinceR: context?Jun 16 21:24
MinceRunknown yetJun 16 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GAP Statement on Edward #Snowden & #NSA Domestic Surveillance http://ur1.ca/ece4oJun 16 21:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GAP Statement on Edward Snowden & NSA Domestic Surveillance - Government Accountability Project .::. Size~: 42.16 KBJun 16 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Walmart hates its staff http://ur1.ca/ece51Jun 16 21:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exclusive - Wal-Mart's everyday hiring strategy: Add more temps | Reuters .::. Size~: 92.24 KBJun 16 21:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101310015Jun 16 21:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101310053Jun 16 21:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 18:43:12 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz they don't? And this is accepted? Weird/badJun 16 21:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 18:49:33 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yes, very worryingJun 16 21:27
schestowitzTyranny it's calledJun 16 21:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101310163 http://identi.ca/notice/101310166Jun 16 21:28
TechrightsBot-tr@David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 19:09:29 UTC - Identi.ca: US is far more interested in structure of law and vengeance than in justice.  Hence if they can claim it was a crime at the time (1/2)Jun 16 21:28
TechrightsBot-tr@David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 19:10:09 UTC - Identi.ca: they will prosecute nonetheless and even if it is unjust to do so after (2/2)Jun 16 21:28
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101310176Jun 16 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr@David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 19:13:57 UTC - Identi.ca: And this is real reason; to be able to selectively blackmail & prosecute political opposition in future for past things.  #NSA must goJun 16 21:29
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101310320Jun 16 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 19:42:50 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz and their customers applaud itJun 16 21:29
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/101310216Jun 16 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jun-13 19:21:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz does this specifically mean they have direct access or no? Is this a community oversight? #active #backdoor? I don't undrstand.Jun 16 21:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2731515Jun 16 21:30
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-admits-listening-to-u.s-phone-calls-without-warrants/ it's only getting worse, illegal tooJun 16 21:30
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: NSA spying flap extends to contents of U.S. phone calls | Politics and Law - CNET News .::. Size~: 90.05 KBJun 16 21:30
schestowitz"This gentleman appears to have been mistaken."Jun 16 21:30
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9idlHwGPqK8#t=54sJun 16 21:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obama: NSA Is Not Listening to Your Phone Calls - YouTube .::. Size~: 177.71 KBJun 16 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] You know who controls you when you know who you're afraid of criticising. Conquering this fear is a route to independence.Jun 16 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Being /sympathetic/ towards something (drugs, rituals, etc.) is not in itself a crime. #fbi expanded it to "crime" realms using Sting Ops.Jun 16 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #GCHQ intercepted foreign politicians' communications at G20 summits - http://bit.ly/16vYt7A can't wait to hear the spin on this.. #snowdenJun 16 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GCHQ intercepted foreign politicians' communications at G20 summits | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 127.2 KBJun 16 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 2013-Jun-17: Phil Archer participates at a panel entitled: Collaborative governance panel" - http://kwz.me/2hJun 16 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C Presentations - Advanced Search .::. Size~: 103.9 KBJun 16 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Other documents record apparently successful efforts to penetrate the security of #BlackBerry smartphones" - http://bit.ly/16vYt7A whoopsJun 16 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GCHQ intercepted foreign politicians' communications at G20 summits | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 127.3 KBJun 16 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] so if UK was spying on G20, presumably many of the #TPP meetings were also spied on: so there are no secrets. so release the drafts...Jun 16 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Companies to size forest from indigenous people http://ur1.ca/ecefnJun 16 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2013: March - June Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 1285.36 KBJun 16 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] #w3ccommunity Proposed Group: Hydra Community Group http://dlvr.it/3Wyp69Jun 16 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Proposed Group: Hydra Community Group | Community and Business Groups .::. Size~: 20.36 KBJun 16 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mray/@mray] RT @grote A civil drone films the events at #Taksim square as the police is marching in on #DirenGeziParki b4 it's shot down http://ur1. ...Jun 16 22:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Korruptionsaffäre: Tschechiens Premier kündigt Rücktritt an - http://bit.ly/13RYxfc serious stuff #czJun 16 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Finnish Minister of Environment just "suggested" that Finland should offer asylum for #snowden." - http://bit.ly/11SdVd8 interestingJun 16 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Korruptionsaffäre in Tschechien: Premier Necas will zurücktreten - SPIEGEL ONLINE .::. Size~: 69.02 KBJun 16 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Phil Mickelson 70 plus yard eagle to take the lead in USA Open.Jun 16 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Justin Rose birdie to take a share of the lead.Jun 16 22:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Protesting Piracy in China with...Blow-Up Dolls - http://bit.ly/11rnf4o #china is obviously progressing in leaps and bounds...Jun 16 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The whistleblowers are the new generation of American patriots - http://bit.ly/11ichSa people are beginning to wake up...Jun 16 22:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NSA-proof encryption exists. Why doesn’t anyone use it? - http://wapo.st/16wap9g usability, of course; we must make it easier #pgpJun 16 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Rose birdies again to take the lead.Jun 16 22:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Apple refuses to pay fair share of taxes http://ur1.ca/ecevmJun 16 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Looks like being an exciting finish to US open.Jun 16 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mray/@mray] it is sad to see so few posts on the #diaspora blog - is it dead? or will there happen something newsworthy next year?Jun 16 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mray/@mray] @mray http://ur1.ca/58sgm is <- damn those people forgetting to include links!Jun 16 23:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] People that do the most complex shell and grep stuff, code like wizards but disable SELinux because it's too complicat... http://b1t.it/dqT1Jun 16 23:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Compare Hong Kong extradition process http://ur1.ca/ecf7c to #Eclipse due diligence process http://ur1.ca/94jfw cc: @bkuhnJun 16 23:41
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