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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2808492Jul 06 07:47
TechrightsBot@harryhaller@joindiaspora.com: An elected dictator isn't that much better than an unelected one when the choices are dictated.   <br> <br><br><br><br><br>  Let's "grow up" and finally go for the real thing - real democracy - lawmaking by the people for the people on the basis of consensus among the people. Let "representatives" just do the routine administration.Jul 06 07:47
schestowitz"@infirit - I completely agree. The process of discussion and investigation is what has been missing and that addresses the points that Roy made. The media can overwhelm us and our sense of perspectives temporarily, but in discussion it loses its monopoly."Jul 06 07:47
schestowitz> Go ahead and make a suggestion for deploying and configuring apache (itJul 06 08:32
schestowitz> will be used many places).  It may be an existing module, but thereJul 06 08:32
schestowitz> needs to be some flexibility for per-node configuration.  Even better,Jul 06 08:32
schestowitz> have a module and suggested manifest ready to deploy.  We're using HieraJul 06 08:32
schestowitz> configuration for nodes (JSON) which in most cases simplifies the nodeJul 06 08:32
schestowitz> manifests.  This is your first priority.Jul 06 08:32
schestowitzAccording to HighLevelProjectPlan Ubuntu LTS (12.04 being the only supported version since May 2013, same version as on my primary desktop, the secondary being Debian Wheezy) will be the operating system of choice. apache2 is readily available for installation and use. Configuration of network access depends on what the client allocates for us to use (I have done this before) and Apache configuration dependent on the purpose of the Jul 06 08:32
schestowitzserver, which may also facicliate some of their content management systems, e.g. Alfresco, Liferay... (although setup of Apache for these is usually part of the installers, e.g. for Alfresco Community Edition):Jul 06 08:32
schestowitzhttp://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Download_and_Install_AlfrescoJul 06 08:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Download and Install Alfresco - alfrescowiki .::. Size~: 23.16 KBJul 06 08:32
schestowitzTo monitor Apache on each page-serving virtual/physical machine I have been learning aboutJul 06 08:32
schestowitzhttp://docs.puppetlabs.com/hiera/1/index.htmlJul 06 08:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Hiera 1: Overview — Documentation — Puppet Labs .::. Size~: 27.75 KBJul 06 08:32
schestowitzAn example to start with and 'hack' on is available inJul 06 08:32
schestowitzhttp://docs.puppetlabs.com/hiera/1/complete_example.htmlJul 06 08:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Hiera 1: Complete Example — Documentation — Puppet Labs .::. Size~: 56.29 KBJul 06 08:32
schestowitzWe monitor for typical attributes and states, which are already available in a module downloadable from Puppet's repository:Jul 06 08:32
schestowitzhttps://ask.puppetlabs.com/question/1549/how-to-create-an-apache-vhost-in-hiera-when-using-puppetlabsapache/Jul 06 08:32
TechrightsBotTitle: How to create an apache vhost in hiera when using puppetlabs/apache - Ask PuppetLabs: Puppet DevOps Q&A Community .::. Size~: 52.06 KBJul 06 08:32
schestowitz> Then for roundcube there may not be a module, in which case grab one ofJul 06 08:32
schestowitz> the ones we already wrote (interfaces for example) and use it to learnJul 06 08:32
schestowitz> how to deploy roundcube and the configuration for it.Jul 06 08:32
schestowitzThere is at least one module:Jul 06 08:32
schestowitzhttps://github.com/bkero/puppet-module-roundcubeJul 06 08:32
TechrightsBotTitle: bkero/puppet-module-roundcube · GitHub .::. Size~: 30 KBJul 06 08:32
schestowitzWe have been using roundcube here for years. It is available from http://www.roundcube.net/download but I see that on the latest Ubuntu LTS it is already packaged and downloadable/installable from the respositories:Jul 06 08:32
TechrightsBotTitle: Downloading Roundcube webmail .::. Size~: 11.88 KBJul 06 08:32
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ sudo apt-get install roundcubeJul 06 08:32
schestowitz[sudo] password for roy: Jul 06 08:32
schestowitzReading package lists... DoneJul 06 08:33
schestowitzBuilding dependency tree       Jul 06 08:33
schestowitzReading state information... DoneJul 06 08:33
schestowitzThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:Jul 06 08:33
schestowitz  linux-image-2.6.31-11-generic linux-image-2.6.31-10-genericJul 06 08:33
schestowitzUse 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.Jul 06 08:33
schestowitzThe following extra packages will be installed:Jul 06 08:33
schestowitz  dbconfig-common javascript-common libjs-jquery-ui libltdl-dev libmcrypt4 libt1-5 libtoolJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  php-auth php-auth-sasl php-mail-mime php-mail-mimedecode php-mdb2 php-mdb2-driver-mysqlJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  php-net-smtp php-net-socket php-pear php5 php5-dev php5-gd php5-intl php5-mcryptJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  php5-mysql php5-pspell roundcube-core roundcube-mysql shtool tinymce wwwconfig-commonJul 06 08:33
schestowitzSuggested packages:Jul 06 08:33
schestowitz  libjs-jquery-ui-docs libtool-doc libmcrypt-dev mcrypt gfortran fortran95-compiler gcjJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  php-log php-soap php-crypt-gpg roundcube-plugins postgresql-clientJul 06 08:33
schestowitzThe following NEW packages will be installedJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  dbconfig-common javascript-common libjs-jquery-ui libltdl-dev libmcrypt4 libt1-5 libtoolJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  php-auth php-auth-sasl php-mail-mime php-mail-mimedecode php-mdb2 php-mdb2-driver-mysqlJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  php-net-smtp php-net-socket php-pear php5 php5-dev php5-gd php5-intl php5-mcryptJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  php5-mysql php5-pspell roundcube roundcube-core roundcube-mysql shtool tinymceJul 06 08:33
schestowitz  wwwconfig-commonJul 06 08:33
schestowitz0 upgraded, 29 newly installed, 0 to remove and 206 not upgraded.Jul 06 08:33
schestowitzNeed to get 4,445 kB of archives.Jul 06 08:33
schestowitzAfter this operation, 22.5 MB of additional disk space will be used.Jul 06 08:33
schestowitzDo you want to continue [Y/n]? Jul 06 08:33
schestowitzroundcube works with the standard directory structure (maildir) and stores configurations files peripherally, so it should be no harder to set up than squirrelmail or Horde (actually, Horde is probably harder for all sorts of reasons). Do you want me to start playing with an actual setup on my boxes or perhaps VMs at Weybridge?Jul 06 08:33
schestowitz> If he's at Seoul, then it's not exactly squeaky clean there:Jul 06 14:22
schestowitz> Jul 06 14:22
schestowitz> http://www.useoul.edu/snunews?bm=v&bbsidx=118022Jul 06 14:22
schestowitz> Jul 06 14:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Bill Gates in SNU – The Voice of Innovation | News | SNU Media | News & Forum | SNU .::. Size~: 30.77 KBJul 06 14:22
TechrightsBot>Jul 06 14:22
schestowitz> Also, the university site uses M$.asp and has many broken links and,Jul 06 14:22
schestowitz> further, Korea does have a rep for being in M$ pocket.  There's not aJul 06 14:22
schestowitz> general faculty search but he's not in the faculty page and theirJul 06 14:22
schestowitz> general search sucks:Jul 06 14:22
schestowitz> Jul 06 14:22
schestowitz> http://cse.snu.ac.kr/en/people/facultyJul 06 14:22
schestowitz> Jul 06 14:22
TechrightsBotTitle: Faculty | SNU Computer Science and Engineering .::. Size~: 90.9 KBJul 06 14:22
schestowitz> I'm not finding recent publications and he was active in publishing inJul 06 14:22
schestowitz> the ACM from 1996 - 2002.  I'll rummage for a while longer and see ifJul 06 14:23
schestowitz> there isn't an article which gives  contact info.Jul 06 14:23
schestowitzHow long before those patches are pushed as a request ("feature") to Linus for merging? Much to Microsoft's chagrin. That's Microsoft's weapon of choice in patent deals, said Keith from the OIN. That's why it's so worrisome...Jul 06 14:23
schestowitzSeoul is the capital of ActiveX.Jul 06 14:23
schestowitz> It can be toxic with patents, but is probably covered by GPL:Jul 06 14:31
schestowitz> Jul 06 14:31
schestowitz> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?81642-Native-Linux-Kernel-Module-Is-Out-For-Microsoft-exFAT/page5Jul 06 14:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Native Linux Kernel Module Is Out For Microsoft exFAT - Page 5 .::. Size~: 89.18 KBJul 06 14:31
schestowitz> I tried to see if Github was like Sourceforge and had usernames act asJul 06 17:55
schestowitz> mail addresses.  But that failed, see below.  So I used their feedbackJul 06 17:55
schestowitz> form to ask Github for contact info for the lead developer(s)Jul 06 17:55
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schestowitz> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:Jul 06 17:55
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schestowitz>      rxrz@github.comJul 06 17:55
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schestowitz> Technical details of permanent failure:Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by theJul 06 17:55
schestowitz> server for the recipient domain github.com by aspmx.l.google.com.Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> [2a00:1450:4008:c01::1b].Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> Hi,Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> I notice that the exfat-nofuse code is posted without a license.  ThereJul 06 17:55
schestowitz> is no 'LICENSE' file and even the 'README' file does not mention  aJul 06 17:55
schestowitz> license.  In most of the world that makes it proprietary, which is theJul 06 17:55
schestowitz> default under the Berne Convention.  Would you consider posting aJul 06 17:55
schestowitz> license, releasing the code under a BSD or GPL license?Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> Regards,Jul 06 17:55
schestowitzIt would be interesting to question him regarding the motivation for the project, and final goals.Jul 06 17:55
schestowitz> Here is the response from Github, I guess the only way is to open a bugJul 06 17:56
schestowitz> in the project asking for a LICENSE or COPYING file to be added.Jul 06 17:56
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schestowitz>> Jul 06 17:56
schestowitz>> We don't disclose contact information for our users. If you have aJul 06 17:56
schestowitz>> question about the project, consider opening an issue.Jul 06 17:56
schestowitz>> Jul 06 17:56
schestowitz>> Cheers, Steven!Jul 06 17:56
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