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| schestowitz | > [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider | Jul 15 08:30 |
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| schestowitz | > [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, | Jul 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | > [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. | Jul 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:30 |
| schestowitz | > RSS: The next bunch of things I'd like to speak about is the data, | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > showing whole data security, | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > That doesn't make sense. Is it garbled? | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I don't think I said "whole" (I'm pretty sure I didn't), but the whole audio got distorted there. | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > I mean, security from the point of view | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > of the user, not security from the point of view of, you know, | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > "national security", which could mean just about anything. | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > RMS: Well, if you're going to deal with a company and it's going to get | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > some personal information about you and that company's servers are | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > hosted by a US company -- whether in the US (????????????????????) -- | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > Whether in the US or not? | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I moved the recording device when you said it, so it came out a mess and I had to interpolate a bit based on context. | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > If a country wants to provide data protection to its citizens, part of | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > their data protection must include not permitting that data to be | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > searched in any way as part of the company's operations, to have [...] | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > fully reliable and cooperating data protection. | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > I must have made a general statement of which the following sentence | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > is an example. | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > So for instance, a | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > European company should not be allowed to host its data on an Amazon server. | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > RMS: Well, okay, the point is, the encryption of a network hub is not | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > something that you can depend on for your own privacy because, you know, | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > if other people are getting on the network hub, they can listen to your | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > packets too, so if you want to maintain your privacy, you do that with | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > something else like communicating with SSH. Now, the relevance of | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > encryption on the network hub -- that's not just a way of controlling | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > who can use it and it's very important for people to maintain Wi-Fi | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > networks without any kind of password because if you don't, then you're | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > becoming an [infringer????//] of the war on sharing, so one way to | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > resist the act of laws (?????/?) such as the Digital Economy Act is by | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > not having a key on your Wi-Fi network. | Jul 15 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > This should be punctuated differently: | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > RMS: Well, okay, the point is, the encryption of a network hub is not | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > something that you can depend on for your own privacy because, you know, | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > if other people are getting on the network hub, they can listen to your | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > packets too, so if you want to maintain your privacy, you do that with | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > something else like communicating with SSH. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > Now, the relevance of | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > encryption on the network hub -- that's not just a way of controlling | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > who can use it. It's very important for people to maintain Wi-Fi | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > networks without any kind of password, because if you don't, then you're | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > becoming an enforcer in the war on sharing. One way to | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > resist the application of unjust laws such as the Digital Economy Act is by | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > not having a key on your Wi-Fi network. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > RSS: That increases the depression through liability claims, so... | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > Did you really say "depression"? That word doesn not make much sense here. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | I listened again. said. "The pressure". Corrected now. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > Collective responsibility is the policy that says, if you don't help | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > keep everyone else checked, we'll punish you. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > I don't think I said "checked". Did I say "in line"? "Subjected"? | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | Subjected. That's the one. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > Right the UK government is | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > using the system of collective responsibility to divide people and turn | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > everybody into an enforcer against everybody else and that's why it's | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > people's duty to refuse to do it. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > should be | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > Right now the UK government is | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > using the system of collective responsibility to divide people and turn | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > everybody into an enforcer against everybody else, and that's why it's | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > people's duty to refuse to do it. | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:32 |
| schestowitz | > arranged to exchange keys with. But the other thing to point out is that | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > E-mail doesn't disguise any of the metadata, so the NSA can still track | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > who sends E_mail to whom, even if the contents are encrypted. | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > should be | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > arranged to exchange keys with. But the other thing to point out is that | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > encrypting E-mail doesn't disguise any of the metadata, so the NSA can still track | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > who sends E_mail to whom, even if the contents are encrypted. | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > RMS: They've been doing that since 19... | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > RSS: Fifty? | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > RMS: ...*9 or so. | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > RSS: I think the NSA was only founded in 19... | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > You need to find the correct years! I don't remember them. | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > I had read an article not long before, so I knew them then, | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > but I don't recall any more. | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > Either that or delete this section entirely. It is worthless | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | > the way it is here. | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | I've just checked Wikipedia and it's 1949, so I am adding it to the above. | Jul 15 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Later today I'll test the audibility in advance to ensure next time there will be no issues transcribing. :-) | Jul 15 08:33 |
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