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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/hgfernan/status/350680087353507842Jun 29 14:53
TechrightsBotNot a tweet?Jun 29 14:53
schestowitz> On 06/29/2013 03:54 PM, Roy Schestowitz wrote:Jun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> Articles like these can take thousands of hours of work, including Jun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> meticulous fact-finding and ghost-reading. To let all this downJun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> the drain because some company values nothing but money is to letJun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> the Bad People triumph over science and progress. Oracle did thatJun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> to code. I hope you succeed in restoring all the material, whichJun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> can be indexed by Google over time and found by the article titleJun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> or article slug/unique URL identifier. I know this would help myJun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> future research; Google Cache expires fast and Web Archive isJun 29 14:53
schestowitz>> incomplete.Jun 29 14:53
schestowitz> Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> I hope that the archive can be restored.  IIRC there might have beenJun 29 14:54
schestowitz> some material for one of the sites at Linux.com, but buried a little.Jun 29 14:54
schestowitzLinux.com kept old article. I'm not sure about NewsForge. Even if it's hidden deep inside, the important thing is that URL structure is preserved, hence no "404 history purged".Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> The shutdown may not have been as much about money as it might haveJun 29 14:54
schestowitz> been about ideology.  The site was making some money as it was howeverJun 29 14:54
schestowitz> it was publishing *good* *practical* material about FOSS.  M$Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> ideologues can't handle that.  At work and in private life all theJun 29 14:54
schestowitz> softers I've run across operate about like this, either more or less:Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> http://www.infoworld.com/t/it-jobs/no-facts-allowed-discussions-about-it-strategy-are-sissies-221466Jun 29 14:54
TechrightsBotTitle: No facts allowed: Discussions about IT strategy are for sissies | It jobs - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 100.58 KBJun 29 14:54
schestowitzI already have it in my drafts for today. We don't know what city it's from.Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> The common thread I find is that facts and data are to be shunned andJun 29 14:54
schestowitz> everything is to be shoehorned into a Microsoft "solution" no matterJun 29 14:54
schestowitz> how badly it fails or how much effort and ongoing maintenance is needed.Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> Regards,Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz> PS.  The message was signed but not encrypted.Jun 29 14:54
schestowitzThat's OK, I don't think Rick uses PGP. I had corresponded with him since 2006.Jun 29 14:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/350974392227991552Jun 29 14:54
TechrightsBotNot a tweet?Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz"The promotion of home 'ownership' & family begins our economic slavery as we scramble to stay above a rising tide of debt."Jun 29 14:54
schestowitz'Home ownership', as I keep telling friends is peer-induced bollox. The bank owns the home for many years. Illusions.Jun 29 14:54
schestowitzMy wife's father wise enough not to be pressured into this trap. He bought his nice house when his siblings got theirs from bankJun 29 14:56
schestowitzOne of his siblings could not even keep up with payments, and was forced to sell the house (not sure about details)Jun 29 14:56
schestowitz"I know they have a special place picked out for me. Subversion, Stalin's imagined problem, escalated to paranoia, our problem."Jun 29 14:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/350975148356145153Jun 29 14:57
TechrightsBotNot a tweet?Jun 29 14:57
schestowitzIt all starts with rejection of employment (against you), the roller coaster starts there... Germany, 1938Jun 29 14:58
schestowitz"Jun 29 15:09
schestowitz>> Linux.com kept old article. I'm not sure about NewsForge. Even if it'sJun 29 15:09
schestowitz>> hidden deep inside, the important thing is that URL structure isJun 29 15:09
schestowitz>> preserved, hence no "404 history purged".Jun 29 15:09
schestowitz> Jun 29 15:09
schestowitz> About 10 years ago we used to talk about this kind of thing in gradJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> school.  With printed matter, microfilm and other hard copies, theJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> recipient can hang on to copies as long as they can preserve theJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> physical medium.  It is distributed that way and there is someJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> redundancy in that it might be possible to scare up a replacement copyJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> from the free market, though that option gets harder over time.  What weJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> have now is centralization of both all access and all preservation.  AllJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> access for all users depends on a single chain of custody orJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> stewardship.  All it takes is one bad steward and the chain ends.  NoJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> chance to pull in extra copies or backups.  Then rights over the domainJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> name and the servers bring in additional single points of failure.  ThusJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> it is that all published material can, over time, vanish in much theJun 29 15:09
schestowitz> same way.Jun 29 15:09
schestowitz> Jun 29 15:09
schestowitz> Regards,Jun 29 15:09
schestowitzThat's why Techrights preserves Patent Troll Tracker. I think it's a complete copy, but the author asked me to remove 4 pages that caused him to be SLAPPed.Jun 29 15:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/350978904477020163Jun 29 15:10
TechrightsBotNot a tweet?Jun 29 15:10
schestowitz"The entirety of Bush/Cheney admin described 9/11 as an 'opportunity', not a crime, disaster or tragedy. Their words reveal them"Jun 29 15:10
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