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DaemonFCLOLJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC1/23/2006        Live Cockroach in Gravy TankJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC2/17/2006        Live Cockroach in Gravy TankJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC                        Cockroach on Stairs beside Gravy TankJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC4/20/2006        At a 4:40 a.m. inspection, dried food from the previous day or previous days was found on several machines.Jul 21 00:46
DaemonFCLive Cockroach in machinery.Jul 21 00:46
DaemonFC6/8/2006          More dried food from previous day or days found on machinesJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC                        Six live German CockroachesJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC6/16/06           Letter from Freezer Queen to USDA detailing remediation.  This document suggests that parts of the facility are strewn with debris and parts are not routinely cleaned.Jul 21 00:47
*DaemonFC used to stock this stuff at Walmart. Jul 21 00:47
*DaemonFC figured it was really cheap for a reason.Jul 21 00:47
DaemonFCSalisbury Steak with Cockroach Gravy and some of the shit we cooked yesterday.Jul 21 00:48
DaemonFCB-)Jul 21 00:48
DaemonFCGERMAN cockroach gravy....Jul 21 00:50
DaemonFChigh qualityJul 21 00:50
DaemonFCyou should be paying us more for this!Jul 21 00:50
DaemonFCFood poisoning and contamination is getting surprisingly common.Jul 21 00:51
DaemonFCThe USDA/FDA don't usually do too much actual inspecting, and they get memos from the HQ to overlook things, like how long ago the animals they are cooking today were slaughtered and frozen.Jul 21 00:51
DaemonFCI suspect that they only really do a crackdown when someone misses a bribe payment.Jul 21 00:52
DaemonFCThen, just when you thought it was still safe to eat fruit and vegetables, it turns out that due to farm runoff (a nice way of saying "animal shit flowing into the field because of rain water), you get salmonella and die because you ate a salad or melon.Jul 21 00:53
DaemonFCIt's gotten so bad here that official government statistics admit that about one in four Americans will suffer from some degree of food poisoning over the course of their life.Jul 21 00:55
DaemonFCLike most things nowadays, that puts us somewhere between the other "developed nations" and Mexico, even though we pay more.Jul 21 00:55
*DaemonFC used to work 40 hours a week, every week, stocking frozen foods, 90% of which he wouldn't personally eat.Jul 21 00:56
DaemonFCIt's not too hard to figure out why people are getting sick.Jul 21 00:56
DaemonFCThe stuff comes in 4-5 pallets at a time, even in rural US Walmart stores.Jul 21 00:57
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DaemonFCSomeone is setting off fireworks.Jul 21 03:06
DaemonFCThis is what you get when you can't afford to live on the good side of town.Jul 21 03:08
DaemonFCI called the police.Jul 21 03:08
DaemonFCFor whatever good that will do.Jul 21 03:08
DaemonFCThey said they already have units in the area.Jul 21 03:08
DaemonFCWell, they're still going off.Jul 21 03:08
DaemonFCYou'd think the opportunity to fine someone $5,000 would get them off their asses.Jul 21 03:09
DaemonFCI always use a caller ID spoofing system when I call the police. It replaces my phone number with 000-0000.Jul 21 03:11
DaemonFCI don't like talking to them. I don't want my name or number in any reports.Jul 21 03:12
DaemonFCYou know you're always thinking "What happens if the people I complain about figure out who called?".Jul 21 03:12
DaemonFCThis is how you know people are getting dumber.Jul 21 05:04
DaemonFCCoupon terms have changed from "Limit one coupon per purchase." to "You are not allowed to use more than one coupon per item."Jul 21 05:04
DaemonFCI ran into one of those braniac cashiers that argued with me about the former language. She took it to mean one coupon per transaction. I said "It says one per purchase. How many am I purchasing?".Jul 21 05:05
schestowitzhi DaemonFCJul 21 05:06
DaemonFCHello. :)Jul 21 05:07
schestowitzdid you see th Indiana news re Howard Zinn?Jul 21 05:08
DaemonFCYeah.Jul 21 05:09
DaemonFCOur current governor is censoring the comments people leave on his Facebook page.Jul 21 05:09
DaemonFCOur former governor is trying to rewrite history.Jul 21 05:09
DaemonFCschestowitz, Don't blame me. I voted for the other guy.Jul 21 05:12
DaemonFCB-)Jul 21 05:12
schestowitz 21 05:12 #Panama Nails a #CIA #Torture Capo 21 05:12
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DaemonFCI've said that a lot whenever people give me bad news.Jul 21 05:13
DaemonFC 21 05:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Colorado town ponders bounty for shooting down drones | World news | .::. Size~: 120.66 KBJul 21 05:16
DaemonFCThe proposed ordinance would issue drone hunting licenses. LOLJul 21 05:16
schestowitzsend this to the censor 21 05:17
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schestowitzDaemonFC: cool, shooting them down would risk people on the ground thoughJul 21 05:18
DaemonFCI wouldn't present the wreckage to claim the $100 though.Jul 21 05:18
DaemonFCThe federal government will show up and want to know who did it.Jul 21 05:18
schestowitzI like this saying: 21 05:23
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DaemonFCDear,Jul 21 05:25
DaemonFCI would like to use your website, unfortunately your Windows software is incompatible with my GNU/Linux system.Jul 21 05:25
DaemonFCEven more obnoxiously, some of your coupons also require people to have a Facebook account.Jul 21 05:25
DaemonFCIs there a way to print out any of your coupons without installing Microsoft Windows or using a Facebook account? Is there an option to have them mailed?Jul 21 05:25
DaemonFCWould you consider changing your policy of requiring untrusted proprietary software entirely?Jul 21 05:25
DaemonFCThank you.Jul 21 05:25
DaemonFCdoubt they'll reply to it, but it's nice to let them know they're losing at least some business.Jul 21 05:25
DaemonFC 21 05:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 3M Filtrete Fast Flow Filter: Kitchen & Dining .::. Size~: 481.7 KBJul 21 05:36
DaemonFCI've been having problems with these. The water here is so hard that the filter (which is supposed to last three months) plugs up in about a month.Jul 21 05:37
schestowitz 21 05:53
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Jul 21 05:53
schestowitz"Jul 21 05:53
schestowitzThe U.S. and Israel are conspicuous by their absence from the list.Jul 21 05:53
schestowitzAnd I would include national and international banking amongst the group of criminal gangs, for currency and exotic 'instruments' really only exist ephemerally.Jul 21 05:53
schestowitzPerhaps we should treat the real world as we treat cyberspace, free, and supra-national.Jul 21 05:53
schestowitz"Jul 21 05:53
schestowitzDon't forget corporations that play a part in it.Jul 21 05:54
schestowitz :"? wrong link"Jul 21 05:55 8 reasons our economy is more dysfunctional "Self-sacrifice, fear and lowered expectations are the new normal"Jul 21 05:55
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schestowitzYes, sorry. 21 05:55
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schestowitz 21 05:56 ![whistleblowing]( #Whistleblowing #Journalism #Press #Media #PoliticsJul 21 05:56
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schestowitz"These days we call it "Terrorism""Jul 21 05:57
schestowitzAiding the enemy (terrorists)Jul 21 05:57
DaemonFC 21 06:51
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DaemonFCyellow jackets....Jul 21 06:51
DaemonFCI did find a nest and I killed them all.Jul 21 06:51
msb__schestowitz: The latest Techbytes sounds really awful due to excess gain and clipping on , I think, the local voice.  How about editing it with audacity and rerecord the clipped sections, since you know what you said?  Audacity is very easy to use.Jul 21 07:38
msb__schestowitz: The anti-Linux propagandists in COLA have been crowing about the bad recording all day.Jul 21 07:39
schestowitz 21 07:40 In yet another attack from #plutocrat #bloomberg (Ben Moshinsky, Saleha Mohsin, and Cornelius Rahn) #Wikileaks called "antisecrecy website"Jul 21 07:40
schestowitz"what are you talking about exactly?"Jul 21 07:40
schestowitzSmears against Assange from the plutocrats' pressJul 21 07:40
msb__schestowitz: And if the remote voice is Stallman I think you owe him and GNU a good job.Jul 21 07:41
schestowitzmsb__: they have nothi better to doJul 21 07:41
schestowitzThey also try to lie to create a rift between peopleJul 21 07:41
schestowitzThe video interviews with RMS will have much better sound qualityJul 21 07:41
msb__But you can easily fix this one.Jul 21 07:41
msb__Of course they're lying.  They're psychopaths.  But cola has an audience of about 60,000 people.Jul 21 07:42
msb__According to google.Jul 21 07:42
schestowitz 21 07:43 Yahoo is destroying #Tumblr with #censorship and #prism 21 07:43
schestowitz'The problem is, most blog hosting platforms don't have the social media features that Tumblr has. I have made friends over Tumblr that I never would have met had we been using another service."Jul 21 07:43
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schestowitzmsb__: no, depends on how you count "audience"Jul 21 07:43
msb__schestowitz: You and RMS are Linux superstars.  You should to a good job!Jul 21 07:44
msb__"The truth is the Linux community takes no pride in their work."Jul 21 07:45
msb__"Certainly seems true of Roy and Goblin with their show."  Flatfish and Snit.Jul 21 07:47
schestowitzI see COLA is making fun of a recent headline, or rather, the troll doesJul 21 07:48
schestowitzMicrosoft p[propagandistJul 21 07:48
msb__Well, they probably get daily feeds of propaganda from Microsoft.Jul 21 07:49
schestowitzFlorian is subscribedJul 21 07:50
schestowitzMicrosoft pR departmentJul 21 07:50
schestowitzbased on what he was insinuating after I had blasted IBM PRJul 21 07:51
schestowitzTHey use him to relay their anti-Android propagandaJul 21 07:51
schestowitzI gaher much of what he publishes is reused text and talking points passed to him from Microsoft's PR peopleJul 21 07:51
schestowitzthey just need to put it out there BY PROXYJul 21 07:52
schestowitz 21 07:52
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schestowitz 21 08:12
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jul 21 08:12
schestowitz"Maths Behind Leak Crackdown: 153 Cases, 4 Years, 0 Indictments -  escalating war on #whistelblowers (v @schestowitz)"Jul 21 08:12
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schestowitzWow. Groklaw has a headline typoJul 21 08:37
schestowitz"Commision"Jul 21 08:37
schestowitzThis is why I read my headlines thrice before hitting publishJul 21 08:37
iophkstarting up the pr against the Chromebook already: 21 09:06
schestowitzDaemonFC: 21 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows user's open letter to Android boss Sundar Pichai | Crave - CNET .::. Size~: 71.93 KBJul 21 09:06 GOP Rep Peter King confirms he may enter White House race Look who wants to be the next President, let us listen to him: “Obviously, the economy is important, but the first requirement in the Constitution is to defend the country against foreign attack and provide for national defense,”   “The only way that’s been brought up [so far by other contenders] is to how quickly we can withdraw troops and whether Jul 21 09:06
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schestowitzThe right-right-right wingJul 21 09:06
DaemonFCIt won't happen.Jul 21 09:07
DaemonFCAn idiot like that won't even make it out of the primaries.Jul 21 09:07
schestowitziophk: 21 09:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eric Mack On-Line - Microsoft: Save Windows XP! (or I’ll switch to a Mac?) .::. Size~: 46.8 KBJul 21 09:07
schestowitzSame authorJul 21 09:08
schestowitzEric's Thoughts : 21 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Notes on Productivity - Microsoft Windows - Better for business? .::. Size~: 49.16 KBJul 21 09:08
schestowitz" I'll throw the first salvo in the battle for productivity. I contend that in my experience using both XP and Vista, I have found XP to be far more productive for me. Michael just purchased a new Thinkpad with Vista. Once again, I look forward to learning from Michael's choice. ;-) "Jul 21 09:08
schestowitz 21 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Notes on Productivity - Microsoft raises the bar on student expectations for email .::. Size~: 53.53 KBJul 21 09:09
schestowitz 21 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Eric Mack On-Line - Microsoft buys Groove - what does it all mean? .::. Size~: 39.18 KBJul 21 09:10
schestowitz"Michael Sampson, research director at Shared Spaces Research & Consulting attended yesterday's briefing with Bill Gates, Jeff Raikes, and Ray Ozzie; he's put up an informative and thought-provoking post on his site."Jul 21 09:10
schestowitzMicrosoft booster in disguise IMGOJul 21 09:10
schestowitzPretending to be "concenred" about LinuxJul 21 09:10
schestowitzThe "concerned troll"Jul 21 09:10
iophkThin disguiseJul 21 09:10
schestowitzNot the "curious troll" anymoreJul 21 09:10
schestowitzSo now he speaks 'on behalf'  of ChromeOS usersJul 21 09:10
schestowitzin CNET, i.e. CBSJul 21 09:10
iophkThat seems to  be the same tactic they use via Black Duck and OutreCurveJul 21 09:17
iophk 21 09:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft shares hit by biggest sell-off since 2009 | Reuters .::. Size~: 92.07 KBJul 21 09:28
iophk 21 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Communities Dominate Brands: Nokia Q2 Analysis - This is Textbook Comprehensively Failed Strategy in Numbers .::. Size~: 107.69 KBJul 21 09:30
schestowitziophk: biggest since 2000Jul 21 09:32
schestowitzaccording to CNET's eduitorJul 21 09:32
schestowitzCooperJul 21 09:32
schestowitzDid he miss something?Jul 21 09:32
schestowitzOr are they using as reference a different yardstick?Jul 21 09:32
iophkProbably trying to downplay the siginificance.Jul 21 09:33
schestowitz 21 09:33
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jul 21 09:33
schestowitz"If this was in a speech, have you got a link? Not disputing it, just interested."Jul 21 09:33
schestowitzInformal chat, not an interview or talk.Jul 21 09:33
DaemonFC 21 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jailed Seniors Cost Americans $16 Billion Per Year    | Money Talks News .::. Size~: 32.08 KBJul 21 09:34
DaemonFCIt makes sense. they're a growing demographic and they have high medical expenses.Jul 21 09:34
DaemonFCIt's not especially hard to go to prison.Jul 21 09:34
schestowitz 21 09:37 Yesterday I saw a very libellous article portraying #snowden as #chemtrails proponent using fake quotes. Making up dirt. #nsa #libel #ciaJul 21 09:37
schestowitz"A chemtrails proponent. Is that seriously how we're smearing people these days? Oh, Edward, he's a bloody chemtrails proponent."Jul 21 09:37
schestowitz"o.k. maybe it's a satire site, sorry I didn't understand too much about it, I'm just following since about 20 years now the orgon theme and then I heared theories about haarp came up. for me it's not too far to believe that sth. going on like weather experiments...(in the seventies they found place in africa already) I read about james de meo and I think there must be sth. on that. let's talk about that, even when the posted stuff Jul 21 09:37
schestowitzshould be nonsense..."Jul 21 09:37
schestowitz 21 09:38 Techrights Needs Readers’ Support #TechrightsJul 21 09:38
schestowitz"Jul 21 09:38
schestowitzThe benefit to the subscriber is that they get to give you money painlessly. $10/month is easy for just about anyone and that can be a minimum donation. As the humble bumble and GNU show, people often give more than that. What matters is setting up a way for people who want Techrights to remain advertisement free to keep it that way and pay for itself.Jul 21 09:38
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schestowitzYou might send out stickers, New Year's cards or other spiffs by mail as a thank you.Jul 21 09:38
schestowitz"Jul 21 09:38
schestowitzThere have only been three donations to the site in 7 years. If there's more, then I'll try to work out such a plan. Phoronix does that and I don't know how well it goes.Jul 21 09:39
DaemonFCThat's weird.Jul 21 09:42
DaemonFCA car insurance company gives a discount if you have a paypal account, even if you don't use it to pay...Jul 21 09:42
schestowitzwhich company?Jul 21 09:49
schestowitzWhere?Jul 21 09:49
DaemonFCesuranceJul 21 09:51
DaemonFCI'm checking car insurance rates before I renew with the company I'm with now.Jul 21 09:51
DaemonFCesurance ended up being about another $100 a year, so I'll pass. :PJul 21 09:51
DaemonFCThe paypal discount would have been $3.60 a year.Jul 21 09:51
iophkAhonen can be a little thick about Elop.  He is still going on the premise that Elop is there to work for Nokia, not to drive it into the ground or to advance M$Jul 21 09:52
schestowitzElop works for Nokia...Jul 21 09:53
schestowitz...under the assumption that Nokia is now a department of Microsoft :-)Jul 21 09:53
iophkThat would be about it.Jul 21 09:53
iophkBut it's interesting that he has to destroy Nokia completely as part of the M$ mandate.Jul 21 09:54
DaemonFCNot going to check State Farm. Last time I did, I had a local agent calling me every week for a month.Jul 21 09:54
schestowitzNokia is otherwise dangerous to MicrosoftJul 21 09:55
schestowitzRemember why Nokia backed SymbianJul 21 09:55
schestowitzIt was afrad of having to depend on MicrosoftJul 21 09:55
schestowitzAlong with other companiesJul 21 09:55
schestowitzSo they backed Symbian, collectivelyJul 21 09:55
schestowitzMicrosoft devalues hardware companiesJul 21 09:56
schestowitzit had them race to the bottom on the hardwareJul 21 09:56
schestowitze.g. HP and DellJul 21 09:56
schestowitzWhile sucking up to Microsoft over pricesJul 21 09:56
schestowitzand the only one enjoying high margins is MicrosoftJul 21 09:56
schestowitzSo to depend on another company, esp. Microsoft, for margins is a bad ideaJul 21 09:56
schestowitzAnyone can make hardwareJul 21 09:56
schestowitzbut to use Windows you must go through MicrosoftJul 21 09:56
schestowitzMicrosoft is exploiting this to be the main margin gainer, which it can no longer do because there's competition  that's not as expensive as "Apple"-branded PCsJul 21 09:57
msb__schestowitz: James De Meo is severely evil.  He's a Zionist.  He wrote a book -- _Sharasia_ about how Arabs are inherently evil due to living  in a desert, ignoring that Jews lived in the same climate.  Jul 21 09:57
schestowitzMicrosoft can try to claim it's no longer attackign Linux while it's actively attacking Android and GoogleJul 21 09:58
msb___Saharasia_Jul 21 09:58
iophkNokia made Symbian open source and had a highly successful Linux phone.Jul 21 09:58
schestowitzmsb__: a lot of people are so brainwashedJul 21 09:58
schestowitzThey think that Israeli Arabs are not IsraelisJul 21 09:58
schestowitzOr that they're not "born here"Jul 21 09:58
msb__schestowitz: De Meo also claims that HIV does not exist: 21 09:58
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schestowitzEven though they had been there long before the diaspora into the country (Zionism)Jul 21 09:59
schestowitzThey also call Russian-born Israelis "Russians"Jul 21 09:59
msb__Yep.Jul 21 09:59
schestowitzImagine if the Brits called people from other countries who are naturalised "not British"Jul 21 09:59
schestowitzIt's a cultural thingJul 21 09:59
schestowitzRacism is a norm where the statehood is tied to religion and brainwashJul 21 10:00
schestowitzmsb__: the other day someone told me that many doctros in Israel are now "Arabs" and "Russians"Jul 21 10:00
msb__The discoveries of Wilhelm Reich are perhaps the most important ever made.  It's a real shame that De Meo claims to be the representative and inheritor of Reich's work.Jul 21 10:00
schestowitzIgnoring the fact that they're IsraelisJul 21 10:00
schestowitzAnd calling the "others" IsraelisJul 21 10:01
schestowitzAs though they make the nationality synonymous with a religion and country of birthJul 21 10:01
schestowitzmsb__: before long, Zionism was a marginalised opinion treated as extremist and largely disregarded, not accepted, by mostJul 21 10:01
schestowitzBut anyway, I don't see why it's discussed in #techrightsJul 21 10:02
msb__Regardless of who calls whom "Israelis", the Zionists had no right to invade Palestine in 1948, and gradually conquer over 90% of it and rob and enslave the Palestinians, all with U.S. help.Jul 21 10:02
schestowitzYou mean ArabsJul 21 10:02
schestowitzMany became IsraelisJul 21 10:02
msb__schestowitz: Err, you mentioned De Meo.Jul 21 10:03
schestowitzOthers didn't, and they label themselvs ArabsJul 21 10:03
schestowitzJerusalem was not occupied by many of themJul 21 10:03
schestowitzIf you look at the numbersJul 21 10:03
schestowitzIt's not as simple as you put itJul 21 10:03
schestowitzbe careful of pro-Palestine propaganda, it can be as inaccurate Zionist propaganda, you need to check both side and compareJul 21 10:04
schestowitz*sidesJul 21 10:04
schestowitzSame as reading both CNN and RTJul 21 10:04
schestowitzTHey explain each others's liesJul 21 10:04
schestowitzAnd then you realise you talk of two sides of liarsJul 21 10:04
schestowitzand both sides can be bad, don't think like Hollywood wants you to think, of any scenario being reduced to hero and villain, or good guys vs bad guysJul 21 10:05
schestowitzuse facts, don't pick sides, educate those who choose a side only based on dogma, conviction, and environmental factorsJul 21 10:05
schestowitzA lot of USians are becoming more like you, they challenge the stateJul 21 10:05
msb__Very evil Harry Truman, who nuked Japan when he knew they were going to surrender, pushed the resolution through the UN that gave the Zionists part of Palestine because, "I have lots of Jewish adherents, and no Arabs."Jul 21 10:06
schestowitzLike USians who supported the German Nazis, the genocide by the US army and CIA around the worldJul 21 10:06
schestowitzANd that happens because they receive information which was successfully suppressed (for most) before the InternretJul 21 10:06
schestowitzmsb__: annexation of that area after WW2 makes it more complicatedJul 21 10:07
schestowitzThe British Mandate had Jordan tooJul 21 10:07
schestowitzAnd the borders were not long establishedJul 21 10:07
schestowitzThe Germans had aided IranJul 21 10:07
msb__schestowitz: The zionists invaded Palestine.  Invaders are always morally wrong.Jul 21 10:07
schestowitzAnd as an Iranian recently explained to me, the British/US coup there is more tricky than pro-Iran spin would have us all believeJul 21 10:07
schestowitzThe country which had been made was dividedJul 21 10:08
msb__By 1948, the Jews were no longer in danger from the Nazis.  They didn't need a "homeland".Jul 21 10:08
schestowitzbetween "Arabs" and "Jews"Jul 21 10:08
schestowitzBut there was no Israel and PalestineJul 21 10:08
schestowitzThe fiction of the people who want statehood under PLO is that there was one country which was then invaded and relablledJul 21 10:09
schestowitzThat's not the casJul 21 10:09
schestowitzIt's revisionismJul 21 10:09
schestowitzmsb__: not the pointJul 21 10:09
schestowitzmany had fled there before or during the HolocaustJul 21 10:09
schestowitzthe 1930sJul 21 10:09
schestowitzSo by 1948 there were already many in thereJul 21 10:09
schestowitzYou could argue that continued influx was not justifiedJul 21 10:10
msb__There were Palestinian arabs living there for hundreds of years, along with a small percentage of jews.  They were living there peacefully until the zionists -- with heavy weapons -- invaded and started murdering them wholesale.Jul 21 10:10
iophk 21 10:10
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schestowitzBut if you look at demography changes over time, you'll realise that if they hadn't immigrated there and defied British repelling boats, many more would have been murdered by the NazisJul 21 10:10
msb__I'm talking about after the nazis were put down.Jul 21 10:11
schestowitzThat's a different matterJul 21 10:11
schestowitzAt that stage I think there were already population parties there, almost...Jul 21 10:11
schestowitzIt didn't work out too badly for the locals who accepted Israeli nationality and got social care, healthcare, etc. thereafterJul 21 10:12
schestowitzBut the brutal expansion and occupation is not excusableJul 21 10:12
schestowitziophk: UK censorship is worse than the USJul 21 10:13
msb__Arabs in Palestine had homes, farms, factories, newspapers, etc., and had for a long time.  Zionists had been planning as early as 1895 to expel or exterminate the Palestinians.Jul 21 10:13
iophk 21 10:13
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DaemonFCI need to go by the store. I'm out of damned near everything. :PJul 21 10:14
schestowitzmsb__: there was hardly extermination of genocide, but there was murder along the wayJul 21 10:14
*DaemonFC switched to almond milk. Jul 21 10:14
DaemonFCIt's actually not bad.Jul 21 10:14
msb__schestowitz: At various times, the zionists murdered many thousands per attack.Jul 21 10:15
msb__They've routinely kidnapped, torture, and thereby permanently crippled, Palestinian males.Jul 21 10:16
schestowitzand vice versaJul 21 10:16
msb__torturedJul 21 10:16
schestowitzBoth sides were brutalJul 21 10:16
msb__NO!!!Jul 21 10:16
schestowitzYesJul 21 10:16
schestowitzThe difference isJul 21 10:16
msb__Invaders are always morally wrong.Jul 21 10:16
schestowitzOne side came from the outsideJul 21 10:16
schestowitzand was therefore in a less privileged position to do soJul 21 10:17
msb__The Palestinians sometimes tried to defend themselves with homemade rockets that rarely harmed anyone.Jul 21 10:17
schestowitzmsb__: that would include the Romans, Turks, and Brits in PalestineJul 21 10:17
msb__The Zionists have rained down white phosphorus and nerve gas on the Palestinians -- hightech weapons.Jul 21 10:18
schestowitzmsb__: they didn't have access to good ammo and arms, like the ones imported from CzechoslovakiaJul 21 10:18
schestowitzmsb__: you're jumping to 60 years laterJul 21 10:18
schestowitzWith gradual right of return a lot can be resolvedJul 21 10:19
schestowitzand dismantling illegal "settlements"Jul 21 10:19
schestowitzIndependence to another stateJul 21 10:19
schestowitzAnd so onJul 21 10:19
schestowitzBut a lot of right-wingers and Zionists now control the politics in a nation that's made devoid of humane folks (brain drain), so there's not much chance of it happeningJul 21 10:20
schestowitzPeres will die sooner or later, so only Hawks will ruleJul 21 10:20
msb__And they are totally backed by the US Fascists. Jul 21 10:20
schestowitzOne who could achieve peace got assassinated by a radical ZionistJul 21 10:21
schestowitzmsb__: because of AIPAC et al.Jul 21 10:21
msb__Yes.Jul 21 10:21
schestowitzThey bribe some people in the Evangelical community to play with the minds of sheepJul 21 10:21
schestowitzand away public opinion in the pressJul 21 10:21
schestowitzor retaliate against politicians who view things like EuropeanJul 21 10:22
schestowitzSee Bobby Fischer to see how far retribution goesJul 21 10:22
schestowitzHe was treated like SnowdenJul 21 10:22
msb__The US fascists don't particularly like Jews, but Israel is their pitbull in the oil patch.Jul 21 10:22
msb__400 nukes.Jul 21 10:22
schestowitzFrom national hero for serving the propaganda machine against the Soviets to a villain for criticising US foreign policy and ZionismJul 21 10:22
schestowitzIceland gave him asylum after he was robbed of his passport and unjustly sent to prison in Japan, where he was abusedJul 21 10:23
schestowitzHolland holds many US nukesJul 21 10:23
schestowitzThe former PM said soJul 21 10:23
schestowitzAnd the press ain't covering itJul 21 10:23
schestowitzThey're holding in bunkers nuclear weapons for the US now, acting like an outpost at risk to its own citizensJul 21 10:24
msb__But Israel has threatened to nuke the major cities of Europe if Israel is attacked.  The "Samson Option".Jul 21 10:25
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schestowitz[Citation needed]Jul 21 10:28
schestowitz(and not some crackpot site)Jul 21 10:28
msb__ 21 10:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal & American Foreign Policy: Seymour M. Hersh: 9780679743316: Books .::. Size~: 372.68 KBJul 21 10:35
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Israel, Palestine, the 9/11 Attacks, "Terrorism" .::. Size~: 9.6 KBJul 21 10:36
schestowitzI can see the book from Hersh. What does it say about it?Jul 21 10:38
schestowitzLooking at some reviews, it's about how the nuclear programme was put together, I don't see anythign supporting your assertion yet, so it might just be an "appeal to authority" unless you can quote him saying that Israel threatened to nuke European citiesJul 21 10:39
msb__Please read this page.  It specifies its sources. 21 10:44
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schestowitzI've just read it and it doesn't say anything of threats against European citiesJul 21 10:45
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schestowitzIn fact, it hardly says anything most people didn't already know, it just has many references including that bookJul 21 10:46
msb__Mordechai Vanunu has alleged that Israel uses for purposes of blackmail its ability to "bombard any city all over the world, and not only those in Europe but also those in the United States."[8]Jul 21 10:50
schestowitzAny examples?Jul 21 10:53
msb__The Israeli govt, and Zionists in general, are fascist psychopaths.Jul 21 10:53
schestowitzthat it " threatened to nuke the major cities of Europe," as you put itJul 21 10:53
msb__They've turned Palestine into a prison for the Palestinians.Jul 21 10:53
msb__ 21 10:55
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msb__Vanunu is believable.  The threats would have been made secretly to avoid bad PR.Jul 21 10:57
msb__You have to look at the character of the Israeli govt.  Bombing schoolchildren with white phosphorus.  Creating special nerve gas in colored bombs with a nice smell.  People who breathed it had seizures and terrible pains for months.Jul 21 10:59
schestowitz 21 10:59 FireFox 1.1 OS Update Now Available For Geeksphone Users #firefox #linuxJul 21 10:59
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schestowitz"I'm honestly surprised it's called "1.1" and that they're not instantly jumping to "Firefox OS 2" ;)"Jul 21 11:00
msb__The IDF has T-shirts showing a pregnant Palestinian woman in a gunsight with a caption like "Get two for one".Jul 21 11:00
schestowitzmsb__: but that's an appeal to authority again, and extrapolating based on you not liking someoneJul 21 11:00
schestowitzit's not an actual example, like person X told person Y in country Z we would bomb you if..Jul 21 11:00
msb__No it isn't not liking someone, it is an objective evaluation of the group personality of the Israeli govt.Jul 21 11:01
schestowitzit's not an example or support of an ellegation you made. I'm just trying to get the facts right.Jul 21 11:01
msb__And as I said, the nuclear threats would have been made secretly to avoid bad PR.Jul 21 11:01
msb__But Vanunu says they were made.Jul 21 11:01
schestowitzIf you throw around claims which are false, then people will stop listening, so I am trying to help keep the message accurate, so as to make it effectiveJul 21 11:02
msb__And he is Israel's greatest whistleblower.Jul 21 11:02
schestowitzVanunu was noa a politicianJul 21 11:02
schestowitzHe was not even a senior where he had workedJul 21 11:02
schestowitzIf threats were made, a politician would made themJul 21 11:02
schestowitzNot a plant workerJul 21 11:02
msb__He told the truth about Israel's nukes and was kidnapped and imprisoned by the for decades.Jul 21 11:03
schestowitzSo I don't see how his claim, which specifies no specific example, is more credible than othersJul 21 11:03
msb__He told the truth about Israel's nukes and was kidnapped and imprisoned by them for decades.Jul 21 11:03
schestowitzHe wasn't 'suicided' like Ben  ZyglerJul 21 11:03
schestowitzJust smeared to death by the propaganda/state pressJul 21 11:03
msb__imprisoned by Israel for decades.Jul 21 11:04
schestowitzObama and Biden threaten countries which consider giving asylum to SnowdenJul 21 11:04
schestowitzAnd we know this because we have quotesJul 21 11:04
schestowitzfrom both sidesJul 21 11:04
schestowitzNow, show that nuclear threats were made to European leadersJul 21 11:04
schestowitzNot deterrence that's quietJul 21 11:04
schestowitzBut actual threatsJul 21 11:04
schestowitzOr withdraw this claim, which you can't supportJul 21 11:05
msb__You are asking the impossible, because the threats could only be secret.  But there are plenty of pro- and anti-Zionists who vouch for them.Jul 21 11:06
msb__Just like you don't want to believe the 9-11 research.  Regarding which, please watch this: 21 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: North Tower Exploding by David Chandler - YouTube .::. Size~: 108.96 KBJul 21 11:08
msb__And remember that F=ma -- Newton's Second Law of Motion -- is a _vector_ equation.Jul 21 11:09
schestowitzyou are a straw man proponent thereJul 21 11:17
schestowitzfocus on how the hijackers got this farJul 21 11:17
schestowitzrather than challenge with bogus claims the wrong thingsJul 21 11:18
schestowitz9/11 raises many questionsJul 21 11:18
schestowitzbut not how the buildings fellJul 21 11:18
msb__The video proves that explosives destroyed the towers.Jul 21 11:19
schestowitzyou discrdit those who ask the ral questionJul 21 11:19
schestowitzlike, why did cia hlep the guys get visasJul 21 11:19
msb__That's another part of it.  But I choose to examine the physical evidence.Jul 21 11:20
schestowitzNo, the Commission's report is flawed for other reasonsJul 21 11:20
msb__It's much more difficult to hand-wave away.Jul 21 11:20
schestowitzStop focusing in unnecessary explanationsJul 21 11:20
schestowitzOccams's Razor and scientists explain why the planes took the buildings downJul 21 11:21
schestowitzNow, concentrate on other aspects that are worth exploringJul 21 11:21
schestowitzLike, how did these guys get as far as they did.Jul 21 11:21
msb__What blew all those girders sideways at high speed.  Gravitational force pulls downward.Jul 21 11:21
schestowitzthe 9/11 "truthers" mostly do a disservice by paining with a broad brush anyone who dares to question the involvement from the intel' communityJul 21 11:22
schestowitzAnd in that sense, "truthers" HELP the official storyJul 21 11:22
schestowitzThey make a false alternativesJul 21 11:22
schestowitzWhich sometimes makes me wonder if the government is boosting and shoring up theose guysJul 21 11:22
schestowitzE.g. by giving them a platform on TVJul 21 11:22
msb__Explain how that video is "false".Jul 21 11:22
schestowitzwhile not giving a platform to those who ask the right questions, RMS for instanceJul 21 11:23
schestowitzthere are no "explosations"Jul 21 11:23
schestowitzExcept maybe of the plane's tanksJul 21 11:23
schestowitzSome videos are doctoredJul 21 11:23
schestowitzand they have been spread to help discredit the "truthers" or to be all opprtunistic by sexing up stuffJul 21 11:24
schestowitzSo you have to ensure you watch the originalJul 21 11:24
schestowitzAnd at right speedJul 21 11:24
msb__Then what blew all those girders sideway during the collapses.  Some so hard they stuck in nearby buildings.Jul 21 11:24
schestowitzIt's not freefallJul 21 11:24
schestowitzNo building fell at freefall speedJul 21 11:24
msb__So"Jul 21 11:25
schestowitzAnd there were no "explosions"; where it seems compelling it's likely a fake derivativeJul 21 11:25
schestowitzWhich poisons the wellJul 21 11:25
msb__So?Jul 21 11:25
schestowitzWhich of course just helps discredit "truthers", as soon as one points it out and proves the base material to be fakeJul 21 11:25
msb__How do you "know" there were no explosions?Jul 21 11:25
schestowitzYou don't need to argue for them NOT exsitingJul 21 11:25
schestowitzFor the same reason you can't ask me to prove god does NOT existJul 21 11:26
schestowitzThe burden of proof is on youJul 21 11:26
msb__So you claim that Chandler used a faked video?Jul 21 11:26
schestowitzTo prove that many people planted explosives either at construction or before 9/11 and kept quiet about it all those yearsJul 21 11:26
schestowitzI saw the collapse many timesJul 21 11:26
schestowitzThe originalJul 21 11:27
schestowitzNever did I see anything resembling explosions, just a collapseJul 21 11:27
schestowitzIt happened twice, tooJul 21 11:27
schestowitzWhich supports the idea that this plane type collision would cause itJul 21 11:27
schestowitzLike a repeated experimentJul 21 11:27
schestowitzSimilar observations, similar outcomeJul 21 11:27
msb__The girders flying sideways would be difficult to see with the naked eye.Jul 21 11:27
schestowitzMaybe the "truthers" who support this theory should have a mock building contructed for them and some plane made to crash into it in a cotnrolled way to prove to them that it leads to collapse, but they wouldn't accept even that as a proof, it has become like a religion to someJul 21 11:28
schestowitzit's a chain reactionJul 21 11:29
schestowitzthe more floors as razed, the more pressure there will be on the girdersJul 21 11:29
schestowitzThe pressure starts at the floor of the collisionJul 21 11:29
schestowitzAnd moving downwards from thereJul 21 11:29
schestowitzWith DOZENS of higher floors pressuring the base floor by floorJul 21 11:29
schestowitzThousands of tonsJul 21 11:29
msb__What sideways force blew the girders sideways?Jul 21 11:29
schestowitzThe question is, when is it warm enough for the girders to start going soft, and we know based on the fuel and the melting/softening point of the girdersJul 21 11:30
schestowitzThey don't need to melt, just softenJul 21 11:30
schestowitzand then they shift sidewaysJul 21 11:30
schestowitzthe plane hit one sideJul 21 11:31
schestowitzAt each pointJul 21 11:31
schestowitzso it was asymmetricJul 21 11:31
schestowitzThere was a plane only in one side of each buildingJul 21 11:31
schestowitzWhen one side starts to lose balance, the other, the girders will tild one way and maybe break, tooJul 21 11:31
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msb__You're claiming that "tilting" and "sliding" are enough to accelerate multi-ton girders sideways to 70 mph so they penetrate nearby buildings?Jul 21 11:34
msb__Occam's Razor says F=ma.Jul 21 11:35
schestowitz 21 11:35 ![whistleblowing]( #Whistleblowing #Journalism #Press #Media #PoliticsJul 21 11:35
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schestowitz"Jul 21 11:36
schestowitzLoL, I find it kind of funny that media/goverments call our heroes Whistleblowers, do they even know the meaning of the word?Jul 21 11:36
schestowitz"A whistleblower (whistle-blower or whistle blower)[1] is a person who exposes misconduct, alleged dishonest or illegal activity occurring in an organization. The alleged misconduct may be classified in many ways; for example, a violation of a law, rule, regulation and/or a direct threat to public interest, such as fraud, health and safety violations, and corruption. Whistleblowers may make their allegations internally (for example, toJul 21 11:36
schestowitzother people within the accused organization) or externally (to regulators, law enforcement agencies, to the media or to groups concerned with the issues)."Jul 21 11:36
schestowitz"Jul 21 11:36
msb__You're claiming that "tilting", "sliding", and "shifting" are enough to accelerate multi-ton girders sideways to 70 mph so they penetrate nearby buildings?Jul 21 11:36
schestowitzThink of it like this:Jul 21 11:36
schestowitzIf I have a large girder bound together with some bolts and nutsJul 21 11:37
schestowitzMAde in some specialised factories like those that make plane wingsJul 21 11:37
schestowitzthen the girders can break at the connection points, even if there's solid weldingJul 21 11:37
schestowitzWhen the building's weight puts sufficient pressure on the girders they can snap and then exit the building, which forces them the only direction is can, outwards (i.e. sidewaysJul 21 11:38
msb__Why wouldn't they just fall DOWN, in the direction that gravity is pulling them.Jul 21 11:39
msb__?Jul 21 11:39
schestowitzNailed deeper into the underground?Jul 21 11:43
iophkpressure builds up until they squirt out sideways like a watermelon seed.Jul 21 11:44
msb__Most of the debris ended up in the subsub...basements.  Plenty of space there.Jul 21 11:45
schestowitzFor steel to accomodate?Jul 21 11:47
schestowitzit would snap before it crumbled at its baseJul 21 11:47
schestowitzIt's not made of jellyJul 21 11:47
schestowitzEven wood would snap sideways firstJul 21 11:48
msb__schestowitz: Amazing that you claim that all the researchers investigating the physical evidence are COINTELPRO.  First time I've ever heard that degree of bullshit.Jul 21 12:04
msb__schestowitz: You're supposed to be a science-oriented intellectual.  But you are grasping at any straw in order to ignore F=ma.Jul 21 12:06
schestowitzthe vast majority of physicists agree with me on itJul 21 12:08
msb__schestowitz: You start from an axiom that there were no explosives.  Following from that, any explanation no matter how absurd or quantitatively insufficient, must be true.                     Jul 21 12:08
schestowitzyou need to prove explosives were put thereJul 21 12:08
msb__So now truth is determined by a majority vote.Jul 21 12:08
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schestowitzThe burden of proof is on those who claim the existence of something that shouldn't be there, like claiming GodJul 21 12:08
schestowitzmsb__: of those with knowledge when it comes to construction and engineeringJul 21 12:09
msb__"shouldn't" according to what criteria?Jul 21 12:09
schestowitzbuildings don't generally keep explosives inside themJul 21 12:09
schestowitzIf you claim there are some inside the WTC, then show some evidence from those who put explosives thereJul 21 12:10
schestowitzor those who did routine checkups of the buildingsJul 21 12:10
msb__ 21 12:10
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schestowitzAh, IsraelJul 21 12:11
schestowitzA classyJul 21 12:11
schestowitzLumping in them as wellJul 21 12:11
schestowitzLike sites that claim Israel runs the world, and somehow *nobody* knows about itJul 21 12:11
msb__The Mossad video crew across the river was in place before the first plane hit.Jul 21 12:12
msb__Please read Chris Brown's website, linked at 21 12:14
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msb__A PBS video broadcast in 1990 said that the 3-inch dia. rebars of the concrete cores were coated with an extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating.  Required special welders with security clearances.Jul 21 12:15
schestowitz"As seen in a PBS documentary, the three-inch diameter rebars were coated with plastic explosive."Jul 21 12:16
schestowitzWhere is the PBS documentary and what did it actually say?Jul 21 12:16
msb__A PBS video broadcast in 1990 said that the 3-inch dia. rebars of the concrete cores were coated with an extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating.  Required special welders with security clearances.Jul 21 12:17
schestowitzahJul 21 12:17
schestowitz"extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating. "Jul 21 12:17
schestowitzThat's not the same as "coated with plastic explosive"Jul 21 12:17
schestowitzYou're warping what's saifdJul 21 12:17
msb__Obviously anti-corrosion coatings don't have to be extremely flammable.Jul 21 12:17
schestowitzis "extremely flammable" also worth putting quotes around?Jul 21 12:17
schestowitzOr is that added by the demolition theory proponents?Jul 21 12:18
msb__The video was seen by several people, but copies were removed from libraries, and none can be found now.Jul 21 12:18
schestowitzI need to see the originalJul 21 12:18
schestowitzThere tends to be a tendency to reword what was saidJul 21 12:18
iophkIs FSDaily down for logins?  Or is it shutting down quietly?Jul 21 12:18
schestowitzmsb__: ok, so it's easiet now to reword what was saidJul 21 12:18
schestowitz"the evidence is no longer available, so trust me, I'll try to say from memory what it says"Jul 21 12:19
schestowitzLike you said Israel had threatened to nuke European citiesJul 21 12:19
msb__You will always come up with an objection.  Occam's Razor means nothing to someone who is emotionally certain.Jul 21 12:19
schestowitziophk: I think shuttinf down quietlyJul 21 12:19
schestowitzRecently the site had some downtimesJul 21 12:19
schestowitzIt's still a showcase for someone'ds CMS, DriggJul 21 12:19
schestowitzif this site goes down, then it's probably a CMS running on not a single siteJul 21 12:20
schestowitzmsb__: you said that there were "plastic explosive" in thereJul 21 12:20
iophkIt's not got much attention latelyJul 21 12:20
schestowitzas per your siteJul 21 12:20
schestowitzmsb__: and then you said something elseJul 21 12:21
schestowitzand said the source said nothing of this kindJul 21 12:21
schestowitziophk: true, but it's still runningJul 21 12:21
schestowitzthe widget for Twitter has been banned universally by TwitterJul 21 12:21
schestowitzAlong with some twitter clientsJul 21 12:21
schestowitzAnd identi,ca went the way of the dodo, I reckon..Jul 21 12:21
schestowitzStill waiting for Evan to mail me a link to my account dataJul 21 12:22
schestowitzSo that I can install StatusNet and import my data into itJul 21 12:22
msb__There's no other explanation for the rebars of the concrete cores being coated with an extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating.Jul 21 12:22
schestowitzmaybe the corrosion :-)Jul 21 12:24
schestowitzit's in the nameJul 21 12:24
msb__You're not making sense.Jul 21 12:25
schestowitzBTW, your site says there's no such thing as AQJul 21 12:26
schestowitzbut AQ is the label of a Pentagon databaseJul 21 12:26
schestowitzof many people formerly used by the CIA to provoke the SovietsJul 21 12:26
schestowitzThe misconeption is that the AQ thing is like an organisation whose origin is something different, as the corporate press likes to portray itJul 21 12:27
msb__They were called the "mujahideen" when armed, paid, and trained by the US to attack the secular govt of Afghanistan in the 80's.Jul 21 12:28
msb__Now Obomber is using them to attack Syria.Jul 21 12:29
schestowitz"Note: If you got to this page via a link from "Snit Michael Glasser", please click here. "Jul 21 12:29
schestowitzLOLJul 21 12:29
schestowitzYes, that's real progessionalJul 21 12:29
schestowitzIn large fonts at the topJul 21 12:29
schestowitzCiting some weird anti-Linux trollJul 21 12:30
msb__Glasser has posted thousands of attacks against me.  I have to refute him.Jul 21 12:30
schestowitzIt makes it look like a duct-taped pageJul 21 12:30
schestowitzLike those infamous very long, very poorly laid-out pages that people say should ring warning signsJul 21 12:31
schestowitzLike they're always work in progress and mostly the result of clippings and afterthoughtsJul 21 12:31
schestowitziophk: 21 12:32
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schestowitz"Engineer, designer & philosopher interested in technology and human flourishing. Futureproof, Xamarin."Jul 21 12:32
schestowitzXamarinJul 21 12:32
schestowitzNo longer CanonicalJul 21 12:32
schestowitzI found him now cause Twitter recommended that I follow himJul 21 12:32
schestowitzInteresting how the Mono boosters end up in this proprietary software company which promotes .NETJul 21 12:32
iophkWhat about Spencer.  I he still there?Jul 21 12:32
iophkIt's maybe better to have them all in thesame nest.Jul 21 12:33
schestowitzI wonder when he joined Xamarin, let's use PRISM against him... off to LinkedInJul 21 12:33
schestowitzData as being used against people, as usual...Jul 21 12:33
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schestowitzInformants against themselvesJul 21 12:34
schestowitzI have not updated linkedin data about me for 7 yearsJul 21 12:34
schestowitz"Head of Design at Xamarin"Jul 21 12:34
schestowitz 21 12:34
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schestowitzSince June last yearJul 21 12:35
schestowitz"June 2012 – Present (1 year 2 months)San Francsico"Jul 21 12:35
schestowitz"Jul 21 12:35
schestowitzDesktop Experience DefinitionJul 21 12:35
schestowitzCanonical Ltd.Jul 21 12:35
schestowitzMarch 2009 – August 2010 (1 year 6 months)Jul 21 12:35
schestowitz"Jul 21 12:35
schestowitz"I worked at Canonical as a User Experience Designer for Ubuntu ( During this time, I spearheaded the Papercuts project, which resulted in over 250 user experience bugs being fixed in Ubuntu. Through this project, I introduced the Ubuntu community to user-centric thinking."Jul 21 12:35
schestowitz"Jul 21 12:36
schestowitzAuthor & MaintainerJul 21 12:36
schestowitzGNOME DoJul 21 12:36
schestowitzAugust 2007 – March 2009 (1 year 8 months)Jul 21 12:36
schestowitzI started an open-source project named “Do” (, which produced a launcher application for Linux, with millions of installations and over 30 contributors. While I was the active leader of the project, Do was widely regarded as one of the most innovative, well executed, and beloved applications for Linux.Jul 21 12:36
schestowitz"Jul 21 12:36
schestowitz"In 2006, I worked at Google as a software engineering intern on Google Talk. I created a massively distributed system for analyzing user behavior, and learned a great deal about best practices at Google by attending tech talks and training courses."Jul 21 12:36
schestowitzHe still works for this company:Jul 21 12:36
schestowitz"I recently founded Futureproof LLC (, a research and development company that helps individuals use high-tech products in ways that promote health, happiness, and compassion. Projects to date include Awareness, a break timer for Mac and Windows; and Gadget Rules."Jul 21 12:36
schestowitzNo GNU/LinuxJul 21 12:36
msb__"It makes it look like a duct-taped page. Like those infamous very long, very poorly laid-out pages that people say should ring warning signsJul 21 12:37
iophkThey are both then at Futureproof?Jul 21 12:38
msb__schestowitz: So now you reject my info because you don't like my webpage layout.  Pretty lame.Jul 21 12:38
schestowitzNo, but you fed the trollJul 21 12:46
schestowitzby giving him some cookie at the topJul 21 12:47
schestowitzand it weakens the presntationJul 21 12:47
schestowitzyou'd be easier to slag offJul 21 12:47
schestowitziophk: noJul 21 12:47
schestowitzJust DavidJul 21 12:47
schestowitzhe founded some company that ignores LinuxJul 21 12:47
schestowitzwhich I found funnyJul 21 12:47
schestowitzXamarin is largely the sameJul 21 12:47
schestowitzsome of the mono products were often excluding LinuxJul 21 12:48
schestowitzfunny coming from a 'FOSS' projectJul 21 12:48
schestowitzMiguel calls it "open core"Jul 21 12:48
msb__schestowitz: So, if some psychopath attacks me thousands of times, trashing my website, I should just ignore it? 21 12:53
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msb__His goal is to hurt people.  Ignoring him doesn't stop him.Jul 21 12:55
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schestowitzmsb__: ignoring him saves you timeJul 21 13:00
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schestowitz 21 13:06 reshared: Revenge of the mutant #vegetables? Pictures of crops 'deformed by fall-out of #Fukushima #nuclear disaster' sweep #Asia. . . but is it all just a #hoax? - 21 13:06
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schestowitzHoax or not hoax, is it's DailyFail,. then it's somewhere in the real of fantasy, tabloids, and deception. So I'll wait until i see it in a decent source...Jul 21 13:07
schestowitz*realmJul 21 13:07
schestowitz 21 13:10 ubuntuforums dot org got cracked 21 13:10
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schestowitz"Jul 21 13:10
schestowitzAs with a lot of things ...... look for the B side on this ....... did they want the Old Style Forum - will get a better idea if they bother to bring the Old style Forum back up again ........Jul 21 13:10
schestowitzSeemed it was starting to die off anyway ....... so why would a hacker target it ........ have seen nothing in the News to give any reasons why anyone would want to do this .......Jul 21 13:10
schestowitzMaybe someone knows something different .......Jul 21 13:10
schestowitzDid a lot of searches last night to see if anyone was complaining or upset with the Forums ..... but nothing of real interest popped up.Jul 21 13:10
schestowitz"Jul 21 13:10
schestowitzI heard that the Ubuntu Forums community had gone more quiet in recent yearsJul 21 13:10
msb__I'm impatient and always use (Suse) IRC.Jul 21 13:12
msb__"ignoring Snit saves you time".  But it also conveys to some people that I can't refute him so he's telling the truth.Jul 21 13:14
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schestowitz 21 13:21 Yesterday I saw a very libellous article portraying #snowden as #chemtrails proponent using fake quotes. Making up dirt. #nsa #libel #ciaJul 21 13:21
schestowitz"Yes, I don't believe it. The wording :("Jul 21 13:21
schestowitzmsb__: not if you ignore him as matter of principle, only if you feed himJul 21 13:21
schestowitzI can curse the Queen of EnglandJul 21 13:22
schestowitzShe doesn't need to replyJul 21 13:22
schestowitzShe would be wiser not to replyJul 21 13:22
msb__schestowitz: The queen gets plenty of positive PR.  I tell the truth, so I get chased out of nine villages.Jul 21 13:24
schestowitzyou missed the point I was trying to makeJul 21 13:24
schestowitzIf she started replying, then whenever she would stop it would be assumed she had no comebackJul 21 13:25
schestowitzmany companies, for similar reasons, have a policy of never commenting in "rumours"Jul 21 13:25
schestowitziophk: 21 13:26 Former #Microsoft employee spreads FUD about #gnu #linux Zack Whittaker  at #cbs #zdnetJul 21 13:26
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schestowitziophk: 21 13:29 ...Sure way to distract from Ubuntu's big announcement tomorrow. Didn't know #zdnet publishes articles on a Sunday... :-) :-)Jul 21 13:29
schestowitz 21 13:29 Canonical’s Ubuntu Edge smartphone leaked, to be announced in the coming days #ubuntu #linux #gnuJul 21 13:29
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schestowitz 21 13:30
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schestowitz"@schestowitz well thanks to it we know a ZiffGatesNet tech Ed who writes "unbiased" stories ab Java,works for MSFT"Jul 21 13:30
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schestowitzPerlow was FOSS-hostile even before he joined Microsoft 21 13:31
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iophkschestowitz: From what I gather the Ubuntu Forums are not much used any more.  Jul 21 13:32
iophkHowever M$ Zack is trying to use up the week's quota for Ubuntu newsJul 21 13:33
schestowitz 21 13:37 ubuntuforums dot org got cracked 21 13:37
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schestowitzReading the other reports now coming out .........Jul 21 13:37
schestowitzWondered when the M$ would attack it .....Jul 21 13:37
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schestowitzOn 22 July 2010 the BBC reported that there was a serious flaw in vBulletin software that allows anyone to easily access the database username and password.Jul 21 13:37
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schestowitziophk: there is a massive PR campaign prepared by Canoinical right nowJul 21 13:37
schestowitzOn Monday they go all Rambo with a hardware (phone) product which will be their leading product and a potential for profitJul 21 13:38
schestowitzCompeting with FirefoxOS, Android, etc.Jul 21 13:38
iophkNow that their site is cracked and that is in the news too, there will be more of an uphill struggle with any phone announcementsJul 21 13:38
schestowitzAnd welcome Canonical as it's a GNU/Linux phoneJul 21 13:38
schestowitzNot Dalvik or browser-oriented like FirefoxOSJul 21 13:38
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iophkThe N900 had a lot of fans, it was a good phone, if Canonical can pull off something as good with another Gnu/Linux phone, then they can easily get a portion ofthe smartphone market.Jul 21 13:39
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schestowitz Journalist Barrett Brown could be sentenced to 105 years in prison for journalistic activity, including posting a link to a site with scandalous information that had been obtained by a cracker from HBGary. Jul 21 13:57
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schestowitz 21 14:16 FireFox 1.1 OS Update Now Available For Geeksphone Users #firefox #linuxJul 21 14:16
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schestowitz"Jul 21 14:17
schestowitzThis document describes how future releases are made: It also links to a plan that has releases up to 1.4 on it: 21 14:17
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schestowitzSo, right now, the plan it to follow up the 1.0.1 that is currently out as stable on released phone with 1.1, 1.2, etc. - I'm pretty sure 2.0 will only come when there's major changes in terms of UI or such.Jul 21 14:17
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schestowitz"Jul 21 14:17
schestowitz 21 14:26 Stupid #gmail has messed up my inbox by putting some tabs in it. How to reverse it?Jul 21 14:26
schestowitzquit gmail, use freedom- and privacy-preserving Free software :-) one you control, not one Google controlsJul 21 14:27
schestowitz 21 14:37
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schestowitz"@psael I'm not sure much of that statement is correct."Jul 21 14:37
schestowitz"Google Earth/StreetView comes from KeyHole,a CIA-funded company. They track users. Another case of corporate-run spying industrial complex."Jul 21 14:37
schestowitzWhich part/s are not correct?Jul 21 14:37
schestowitz 21 14:43
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schestowitz"I haven't researched and may be wrong. But "CIA funded" probably means CIA are a customer of theirs, like Google..."Jul 21 14:43
schestowitzThe CIA's ventrue (VC) arm gave taxpayers' money to promote KeyHole and its product. See Wikipedia.Jul 21 14:44
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schestowitz:"and what does "track users" mean? Finally, pretty sure street view data is gathered by Google only."Jul 21 14:44
schestowitzMeet #PRISM - even before that reports in the press sais FBI/CIA were using Maps/Earth logs retroactivelyJul 21 14:45
schestowitzsaid Jul 21 14:45
schestowitz 21 14:58
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schestowitz"ok. Will read up before digging myself a hole, but with a warrant surely that's ok? Without one, not ok"Jul 21 14:58
schestowitzRead about PRISM. They collect everything (NSA and its allies), they bypass the need for warrants this way.Jul 21 14:58
schestowitz 21 15:10
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schestowitz"I know I know, but does that include specific location and map search data? If yes, do we know for sure? May have missed smthg"Jul 21 15:10
schestowitzyes, map search data noted in recent news (tracked), not just pannign, zooming, etc.Jul 21 15:11
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schestowitz"PS didn't realise that Google owned Keyhole Inc. Thought they just sold data to gov and private customers"Jul 21 15:12
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schestowitz"OLPC ~> MSFT  I liked the source article, "Has One Laptop Per Child Totally Lost Its Way?"..."Jul 21 15:13
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schestowitz"Like France is beautiful everywhere the tour goes and beyond"Jul 21 15:14
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schestowitz"...  more than Mr. Pogson's critique. "Profitable non-profit" evokes "venture philanthropy"."Jul 21 15:15
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schestowitz 21 15:16
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schestowitz", I didn't realise. So the NSA can definitely view anyone's Google location and location history at any time?"Jul 21 15:16
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schestowitzThat's a different thing. With Android devices/IPs/cookies it can track where you are, with Maps, where you lookJul 21 15:16
schestowitzA fake apparently 21 15:30
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schestowitz 21 15:36
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schestowitz"ok, will read more. Thanks!"Jul 21 15:36
schestowitzRead and inform other people so that these practices come to a haltJul 21 15:36
schestowitzThese are control mechanisms for plutocrats.Jul 21 15:37
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schestowitz"And xactly why the spying revelations have damaged U.S. foreign relations so much more than domestic impact"Jul 21 15:40
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schestowitz"So Germany, get your shit together, because this scares the FUCK out of me."Jul 21 15:42
iophk 21 16:15
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schestowitz 21 16:21 reshared: 6,500 of these malfunctioning cashzone ATM machines that charge you £1.80 to get your money out proliferate across London. Cashzone are nasty, greedy and fast taking over the ATM business in the UK thanks to their Tory shareholders and lobbying cronies. I feel deep joy every time I see one of their nasty mugging machines malfunction... #ATM #Mugging #Malfunctioning #Privateers #Cashzone #Tory #SkullduJul 21 16:21
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schestowitzSo where are the Police to charge it with littering ...... not a consistent system and no one cares anymore ........Jul 21 16:21
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schestowitzWe get taken over by machines and we do not even begin to realise that they have more rights than we do .........Jul 21 16:21
schestowitz;)Jul 21 16:21
schestowitz"Jul 21 16:21
schestowitzBanks can spread litter, they control the policeJul 21 16:21
schestowitz 21 16:23 NSA Spokesman Accidentally Admits that the Government Is Spying On Virtually All Americans everyone a suspect.Jul 21 16:23
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schestowitz"Say, wasn't emails that got petraeus booted.. "Kelley allegedly began receiving harassing emails, sent anonymously, in May accusing her of inappropriate flirting with Petraeus. Concerned about the tone of the messages, she sought help from a friend in the FBI." I wonder, who could have had the foresight and skill necessary to instigate a specific person to drop a four star general at the top of the CIA? could it be...the NSATAN?!?! (Jul 21 16:23
schestowitzlol)"Jul 21 16:23
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iophkmore militarization of police : "any person who has every worn a uniform of any color or any police organization or military branch, and the family members who have ever lost a loved one serving in the line of duty."Jul 21 16:56
iophk 21 16:56
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iophktrying to lump them together with the military instead of identifying them as civilian.Jul 21 16:57
schestowitz 21 17:15 It seems like #identica took/paid a massive toll, traffic-wise, since abandoning #statusnet 21 17:15
schestowitzSpeaking of which, are you going to be using your #identica account again?Jul 21 17:15
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schestowitzIf you're looking for something to push into a #pumpio account, supports pumpio. I'm not sure where your crossposting starts from but, maybe it'll help.Jul 21 17:15
schestowitzIf you need a brdcst invite, let me know as I have a few. ;)Jul 21 17:15
schestowitz"Also, traffic looks like it started declining once registration was closed. I'd say the bulk of the "lost" traffic was potential spammers being unable to open new accounts. ;)"Jul 21 17:15
schestowitz"I still cant log onto my account, bug report has been submitted several emails and dents from various users have not even got a response. I'm not sure that I'll go back to after this."Jul 21 17:16
DaemonFCWhat we've really had over the last (nearly) 12 years is a sort of soft martial law.Jul 21 17:20
DaemonFCThe Boston incident was an excuse for a gazillion dollar military parade.Jul 21 17:21
DaemonFCAnd they topped it off by telling people to stay indoors, even though there was no legal basis for that order.Jul 21 17:21
schestowitz"Kevie, this was a very difficult and complicated migration. If you care at all, you need to be understanding."Jul 21 17:24
schestowitzI've asked Evan 7 times for my data which he said he'd email me to create a statusnet instance and import into it. Evan is ignoring my emails.Jul 21 17:24
schestowitz 21 17:25 ### O'Gara and Didio Resurrection?   You may remember these ladies for <a href="">evil deeds as Microsoft flunkies</a> <a href="">against Groklaw on SCO's behalf</a>, but Laura got her start chasing ghosts.  Now there's new misogyny from an the old source and MOG has joined Jul 21 17:25
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schestowitz"MOG is listed as an author on one of the recent authors. I'm really not sure it's the same MOG, but that's the name."Jul 21 17:25
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DaemonFCGET OUT!!!!Jul 21 17:32
DaemonFCGTFO!!!!Jul 21 17:32
DaemonFCSRSLY!!!Jul 21 17:33
DaemonFCThe power of Christ compels you!Jul 21 17:33
DaemonFCHAHAHA! N00B!Jul 21 17:33
DaemonFCI always liked working in the frozen food department at Walmart during the summer. If I got too hot (they keep the air conditioning off at night) and started sweating, I usually just rubbed a bag of frozen vegetables or ice cream containers across my forehead.Jul 21 17:39
DaemonFCSure that might sound gross, but it wasn't me that was going to be eating it.Jul 21 17:39
DaemonFCEven if it was, it would be my own sweat on the container.Jul 21 17:39
DaemonFCThat really was a miserable place.Jul 21 17:40
DaemonFCIt's be the middle of August and 80 degrees in the store because they're so damned cheap.Jul 21 17:40
DaemonFC*It'dJul 21 17:41
DaemonFCI mean hot to the point where it makes you physically ill after a while.Jul 21 17:42
*DaemonFC could probably live in a freezer, hates the heat.Jul 21 17:43
DaemonFCmsb__, How can you stand it?Jul 21 17:43
iophk 21 17:49
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I noticed that an investment website was talking about Gain laundry detergent.Jul 21 17:49
DaemonFCThey said the brand has a "strong ethnic appeal".Jul 21 17:49
DaemonFCI thought that was kind of racist, maybe even offensive.Jul 21 17:49
DaemonFCI just got a picture in my mind of some guy at P&G shouting "We've got a scent that'll make all the ******s, *****s, and *****s pay $15 for laundry detergent!"...Jul 21 17:50
DaemonFCI just like it because it makes all my stuff smell like pina coladas.Jul 21 17:51
DaemonFCIt's funny that Bank of America is sponsoring videos on how to be frugal.Jul 21 17:57
DaemonFCMore of your money left for those pirates to siphon off with their fees....Jul 21 17:57
schestowitz 21 18:09
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schestowitz"The US Govt is corrupt to the core; gov't believes it is OK to target and kill US citizens without trial. All shud be alarmed"Jul 21 18:09
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schestowitz:"don't bother about 'em come to where people miss you: …"Jul 21 18:12
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schestowitzFirst I want to get all my data out of identica statunet (5 accounts)Jul 21 18:13
schestowitz 21 18:25
schestowitz"Jul 21 18:25
schestowitzKevie, I know Evan was working on it a few days ago. He's currently in the US for a wedding so I imagine that things on that front will be slowed down.Jul 21 18:25
schestowitzI know it's frustrating but, hang in there man! ;)Jul 21 18:25
schestowitz"Jul 21 18:25 It seems like #identica took/paid a massive toll, traffic-wise, since abandoning #statusnet 21 18:25
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schestowitz"@JanKusanagi the main issue is that emails are not being acknowledged, even a stock "understand your problem....very busy....will look into when I get the time" would be better than nothing"Jul 21 18:26
schestowitz"Yeah, regarding emails, I really think he could (have used|use) a second person for some of this. :/"Jul 21 18:26
iophkNo ticketing system there?Jul 21 18:26
schestowitz"Jul 21 18:26
schestowitzKevie, that stock response still requieres reading the whole thing. Someone who receives LOTS of e-mail can't do that every day while travelling and taking care of a million thing.Jul 21 18:26
schestowitzAs I said, if you care at all, you need to be understanding.Jul 21 18:26
schestowitz"Jul 21 18:26
schestowitziophk: there is oneJul 21 18:26
schestowitzin githubJul 21 18:26
schestowitznot all that activeJul 21 18:26
schestowitzI am waiting to see if I can restore a feed in this channelJul 21 18:27
schestowitzI guess I could do so via twitterJul 21 18:27
iophkAll incoming mail regarding bugs should end up in the ticketing systemJul 21 18:27
*schestowitz checks somethingJul 21 18:27
iophkUsing personal or work acounts without one went out by the mid-1990'sJul 21 18:27
schestowitz 21 18:27
schestowitz"Yes, it's her but it might just be a news feed item. See, "Jul 21 18:27 ### O'Gara and Didio Resurrection?   You may remember these ladies for <a href="">evil deeds as Microsoft flunkies</a> <a href="">against Groklaw on SCO's behalf</a>, but Laura got her start chasing ghosts.  Now there's new misogyny from an the old source and MOG has joined Jul 21 18:27
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schestowitz 21 18:28 Stupid #gmail has messed up my inbox by putting some tabs in it. How to reverse it?Jul 21 18:28
schestowitz"yaaa. it costs. I am a miser. I used my own mail, then my credit card faltered and the server guys threw me off."Jul 21 18:28
schestowitzEmail hosting is $1 a month or lessJul 21 18:28
schestowitz 21 18:29
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schestowitz""@schestowitz Uncle Sam wants YOU... in prison...#SNOWDEN.." /"Jul 21 18:29
schestowitzHa!Jul 21 18:29
schestowitz 21 18:31
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schestowitznot sure if this still works after the API changeJul 21 18:31
schestowitzOhJul 21 18:32
schestowitz"# the bot will also send a twitter update on topic change. "Jul 21 18:32
schestowitzWrong thingJul 21 18:32
schestowitzToby wrotr one, but it runs in another channel of oursJul 21 18:33
schestowitz 21 18:39 #ubuntu #linuxJul 21 18:39
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schestowitzSomeone who thinks Linux is "hard"Jul 21 18:39
schestowitz 21 18:49
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schestowitzwon't work. I researched this field, it's not accurate enough to tell apart more than a few dozen peopleJul 21 18:49
schestowitz"Jul 21 18:50
schestowitzHuffington Post: Facial Recognition Systems Turn Your Face Into Your Credit Card, PIN,Password: #WTF #YANJul 21 18:50
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schestowitz— Anonymous (@YourAnonNews) July 21, 2013Jul 21 18:50
schestowitz"Jul 21 18:50
schestowitz 21 18:52 Techrights Needs Readers’ Support #TechrightsJul 21 18:52
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schestowitzThe Independent does this too, don't they? National Geographic also springs to mind. I think people are paying for the paper or research to be funded more than they are paying for a mass of pulp they can't possibly read everyday.Jul 21 18:52
schestowitzOne spiff could be an email alert system. This would be reserved for really big news, sort of like the paperboy crying "Extra Edition" in the past.Jul 21 18:52
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schestowitzI'll look into the options. For now, hosting costs are the major overhead. :-)Jul 21 18:52
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schestowitzI just hope they don't try to pass it off like they have other things as a perfect enough method to put someone in jail over.Jul 21 19:49
schestowitzReply or view JMnemonic's post >Jul 21 19:49
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schestowitz 21 19:53 "The most secure prison is the one where iron bars are made out of fear." -Maher ArarJul 21 19:53
schestowitz 21 19:53 Where money goes 21 19:53
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schestowitz 21 19:53 Three more years 21 19:53
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schestowitz 21 19:53 Razor & LXDE-Qt Desktop Projects To Merge #lxde #razorJul 21 19:53
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schestowitz 21 19:57 Btrfs Mount Option Performance Tuning On Linux 3.11 #btrfs #linux #kernelJul 21 19:57
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schestowitz 21 19:57 "July 22, written as 22/7 in Europe, has been chosen as π approximation day" tomorrow...Jul 21 19:57
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msb__DaemonFC: "msb__, How can you stand it?"  I have a good two-hose air-conditioner and fans.Jul 21 20:13
msb__The AC condensate evaporator has long since been clogged and was designed not to be reparable so I'd have to spend another $500 for a new one.Jul 21 20:15
msb__But I have it draining into a bowl with a submersible pump leading to a 2.5 gal bottle.  I'm a heck of an engineer.Jul 21 20:16
msb__Anyone who says pi != 22/7 is an abomination before God.  I hope you all realize that!Jul 21 20:18
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MinceRwhere exactly is "before" a nonexistent entity?Jul 21 20:25
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msb__I should have a level switch on the bowl, but since I have to get up and walk around anyhow I just run a script that repeatedly sounds Red Alert every hour or so. Jul 21 20:27
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msb__mplayer is _so_ versatile!Jul 21 20:28
msb__"where exactly is "before" a nonexistent entity?" Where you're less likely to experience its gaseous effluvia.Jul 21 20:30
schestowitz 21 20:35 Now that #SIM is cracked, remember that phones can be fully modified remotely to film, listen, etc. 21 20:35
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schestowitz"I'm afraid it's even worse than that. My Samsung Phone does not have a SIM card at all, but it can still make "Emergency Calls". Does this mean that it can be identified and listened to anyway? I think it does, in the same way wifi radios have unique identifying numbers. Once identity is established on the device by Google sign in, the phone radio can be linked to you, even if you don't ever jump through telco hoops. If "Emergency Jul 21 20:35
schestowitzCalls" can be placed, the radio is functioning and can be used against you."Jul 21 20:35
msb__"Everyone know Roy is an anti-Linux loon. Right? LOL!" -- SnitJul 21 20:36
msb__schestowitz: Remember that before  you have him on your show again.Jul 21 20:37
MinceRmsb__: oh no, then i'm an abomination everywhereJul 21 20:37
MinceR:)Jul 21 20:37
msb__U.S. motto is, lots of bombs in _other_ nations.Jul 21 20:38
MinceRi see what you did thereJul 21 20:38
fewtabominations, where?Jul 21 20:38
msb__Pretty much everywhere, according to the bibble.Jul 21 20:39
fewtoriteJul 21 20:39
schestowitzmsb__: then  reconstructionJul 21 20:42
schestowitzwith US contractorsJul 21 20:42
schestowitzissue some national debtJul 21 20:42
schestowitzanother trillion or two in national debtJul 21 20:42
schestowitzmoney passed to private hands to rebuild after bombing by US ArmyJul 21 20:42
msb__You got it!Jul 21 20:42
schestowitzAnd the debt will be enslaving the US population for generations to comeJul 21 20:42
schestowitzPerfect dealJul 21 20:42
schestowitzSee 21 20:43
schestowitzIt's newJul 21 20:43
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schestowitzand quite amusingJul 21 20:43
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msb__And let's not forget the millions of people murdered.  Some of our leaders are said to be Satan-worshippers.  So they want to feed him with souls.Jul 21 20:44
msb__They've been promised air-conditioning in Hell.Jul 21 20:46
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schestowitz"I actually do like this outcome."Jul 21 20:48
schestowitzmsb__: seen the image?Jul 21 20:48
schestowitzmsb__: it's warJul 21 20:48
schestowitzso we're conditioned not to label it "murder"Jul 21 20:48
schestowitzMurder is ragicJul 21 20:48
schestowitzWar is a "games"Jul 21 20:48
msb__The number of people murdered by the US govt using 9-11 as an excuse in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc probably now exceeds 2,500,000, the population of Philadelphia when I grew up there.Jul 21 20:48
schestowitz*tragic * gameJul 21 20:49
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schestowitz"keep on waiting ;-) anyways @McScx says: I think many !statusnet (& #identica) users are missing his postings"Jul 21 20:49
schestowitzI am still waiting for identica clarity.Jul 21 20:49
schestowitz 21 20:51 reshared: #torontopigsave do what they can to ease the suffering of #pigs confined in containers without ventilation on route to being slaughtered. #vegan #animals #crueltyJul 21 20:51
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schestowitzHow difficult would it be to have something designed into the trailer to give them water on the journey ......Jul 21 20:51
schestowitzNo animal needs to suffer when its avoidable ..... even if they are going to be slaughtered ........ suffering of anything should be something we all understand and try to avoid.Jul 21 20:51
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schestowitzMy wife found it agonising to watch. We're thinking about going vegan now...Jul 21 20:53
msb__Early in the invasion of, I think, Afghanistan, the US army imprisoned captured soldiers (men who were defending their country against the US invasion and mass murder) and looked a bunch of them in cargo containers with no water in the broiling heat and left them there for days.Jul 21 20:55
msb__Satan was very pleased!Jul 21 20:55
schestowitz 21 20:55 Now that #SIM is cracked, remember that phones can be fully modified remotely to film, listen, etc. 21 20:55
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schestowitzJan told me what the number is and I looked it up in Wikipedia. Yep, your phone will always be a bug.Jul 21 20:56
schestowitzA target for lawful interception (wiretapping) can be specified by its IMEI number as well as IMSI and MSISDN 21 20:56
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schestowitzSo that, and the non free radio control computer, allows location tracking and audio recording without the phone being any value as a phone to the user. As usual, Stallman is right.Jul 21 20:56
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msb__Then there were the "Christians" who murdered millions of Goddess worshippers in Europe, mostly women.  Some they did by suspending them by their wrists over a fire, on a rope that passed over a pulley.Jul 21 20:59
schestowitzPhones are so much risk for so little gain. But a lot of other forms of communication, except face-to0-face, are bad for other reasons.Jul 21 20:59
schestowitzmsb__: yes, but that was a long time ago, we can do better now because we have better infoJul 21 20:59
schestowitzand stil we dail to stop some warsJul 21 21:00
schestowitzlike Libya...Jul 21 21:00
msb__When the woman began losing consciousness due to the unimaginable pain, the "Christians" would raise her up so she wouldn't pass out.  And then lower her again, to make the torture last as long as possible.Jul 21 21:00
schestowitzIran might be next, after August when the CIA-trained people infiltrate SyriaJul 21 21:00
schestowitzmsb__ obamaismJul 21 21:00
schestowitzpublic displays of tortureJul 21 21:01
schestowitzlike hanging in IranJul 21 21:01
schestowitzto scare the populationJul 21 21:01
schestowitzyou make stories of hellfire in HellJul 21 21:01
schestowitzand then you need to show some Hell on EarthJul 21 21:01
schestowitzto scare peopleJul 21 21:01
schestowitzthat's what Obama is doing to truth-tellers nowJul 21 21:01
msb__Libya was an excellent country under Gaddafi until the US destroyed it. 21 21:04
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msb__It had an egalitarian economic system and an interest-free bank.  The US will not allow these to exist.Jul 21 21:05
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msb__The first thing the US did after conquering Libya and murdering Gaddafi was to put in a Rothschild bank.Jul 21 21:07
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msb__Al-Qaeda gunmen under US control have already invaded Syria.Jul 21 21:10
msb__Obamaism=Bushism=Clintonism.  They all did the same thing.  Corporatism ("Fascism is Corporatism" -- Mussolini)Jul 21 21:12
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MinceR220709 < schestowitz> msb__: yes, but that was a long time ago, we can do better now because we have better infoJul 21 21:21
MinceRwe can.Jul 21 21:21
MinceRbut they refuse to.Jul 21 21:21
msb__The JCI religions, govt, corporate media, and educational systems all combine to spew out the flood of propaganda -- the Matrix -- that keeps people unaware of their slavery.  Works much better than soldiers with machine guns.Jul 21 21:24
msb__But when enough people are starving and homeless here, the gov't will do this: 21 21:28
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schestowitz 21 22:06 ### O'Gara and Didio Resurrection?   You may remember these ladies for <a href="">evil deeds as Microsoft flunkies</a> <a href="">against Groklaw on SCO's behalf</a>, but Laura got her start chasing ghosts.  Now there's new misogyny from an the old source and MOG has joined Jul 21 22:06
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schestowitz"Jul 21 22:06
schestowitzThat link did not make it into this article for some reason.Jul 21 22:06
schestowitzI wrote this last night when I bumped into the conjuring review. I had my poison ladies confused at the start and found material with MOG and Amityville Horror, but not enough and wondered if MOG was doing a reputation cleanse somehow. That's when I started looking through my bookmarks and corrected my mistake. Didio did have her Wikipedia page cleansed, as you can see from the link where the page is purged with lots of trolling and Jul 21 22:06
schestowitzdistraction. That MOG may have joined the ghost busting fun was too good not to pass on.Jul 21 22:06
schestowitzNow I see I may have been hasty.Jul 21 22:06
schestowitz"Jul 21 22:06
schestowitzI  checked the Wikipedia article before and I don't think it was covering the ghost nonsense. Maybe I checked too late, ~2 years ago..Jul 21 22:07
schestowitz 21 22:08 reshared: ### ‘US Constitution overtaken by military'   Alfred Lambremont Webre #video #alfredlambremontwebre #webre #interview #bradleymanning #manning #us #constitution #military #court-martial #police-state #lawless #rogueJul 21 22:08
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schestowitzSo what they are trying to say - is he took the data and he wanted it to reach the hands of Osama Bin Laden .......Jul 21 22:09
schestowitz    The first people he went to was the New York Times ......Jul 21 22:09
schestowitzThat theory seems to fall flat on its face ......... as they would not have had direct contact with Osama Bin Laden .Jul 21 22:09
schestowitz    Then to go to Wikileaks which is set up to help whistleblowers again no direct contact with Osama Bin Laden ........Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzThis too falls flat on its face ....... as wikileaks also checked what it was giving out at the time and from what I can remember the data given out had been vetted as well as censored to some degree to stop anyone getting harmed from this information.Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzHow do you give information to the Enemy so that they could attack you directly from that information ............ as this is what they seem to be trying to prove .........Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzWould you not send it straight to a contact in a opposing army ( say they had one ) - then if you were meant to be treat as a spy or agent for the other side you could be deemed to have given said information to the enemy .Jul 21 22:10
schestowitz    Prove that Osama Bin Laden did set up the bombing of the Twin Towers for sureJul 21 22:10
schestowitzThe documentation and the phone calls Bin Laden made to all his associates should have been found and disclosed by now .Jul 21 22:10
schestowitz    So maybe after they have had this trial ..... or during it ...... they can prove through the documentation who Bin Laden conversed with to set the whole 9/11 job up - that seems to get skipped over .......Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzThey got documentation at the place where Bin Laden was hiding out.Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzThis being in Pakistan ....... so who actually passed over the paperwork was it the CIA - as it would need printing out and sending by mail you would expect ( all traceable ) the paper should be analyzed to find out which country it came from.Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzThat then would give some indication that we can trust the CIA in this ...... ( because at the moment it seems not to ring TRUE in any event where someone passed something to the enemy )Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzWould they need to go through a party they feel is on their side the New York Times ........Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzSeems a tad odd to me .......Jul 21 22:10
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schestowitzHow hard did they look ....... to work out how the main criminal was involved and his contacts .........Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzIf they had spent as much time on a case to work out who all the main contacts were to Bin Laden - we would get a better picture of who set it all up in the first place ...... and how he got into a luxury compound in Pakistan .... with apparently no one knowing.Jul 21 22:10
schestowitzNow if it had been Snowden for instance ....... he would be stuck in a airport lounge somewhere ......... but Bin Laden ..... how many Flights did he make to get where he ended up ........ and which airports did he go through.Jul 21 22:10
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