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| DaemonFC | http://higgins.house.gov/sites/higgins.house.gov/files/archive/newsroom_ARTICLE3116_6410_PG_9.shtml | Jul 21 00:46 |
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| DaemonFC | LOL | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | 1/23/2006 Live Cockroach in Gravy Tank | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | 2/17/2006 Live Cockroach in Gravy Tank | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | Cockroach on Stairs beside Gravy Tank | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | 4/20/2006 At a 4:40 a.m. inspection, dried food from the previous day or previous days was found on several machines. | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | Live Cockroach in machinery. | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | 6/8/2006 More dried food from previous day or days found on machines | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | Six live German Cockroaches | Jul 21 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | 6/16/06 Letter from Freezer Queen to USDA detailing remediation. This document suggests that parts of the facility are strewn with debris and parts are not routinely cleaned. | Jul 21 00:47 |
| *DaemonFC used to stock this stuff at Walmart. | Jul 21 00:47 | |
| *DaemonFC figured it was really cheap for a reason. | Jul 21 00:47 | |
| DaemonFC | Salisbury Steak with Cockroach Gravy and some of the shit we cooked yesterday. | Jul 21 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | GERMAN cockroach gravy.... | Jul 21 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | high quality | Jul 21 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | you should be paying us more for this! | Jul 21 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | Food poisoning and contamination is getting surprisingly common. | Jul 21 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | The USDA/FDA don't usually do too much actual inspecting, and they get memos from the HQ to overlook things, like how long ago the animals they are cooking today were slaughtered and frozen. | Jul 21 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that they only really do a crackdown when someone misses a bribe payment. | Jul 21 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | Then, just when you thought it was still safe to eat fruit and vegetables, it turns out that due to farm runoff (a nice way of saying "animal shit flowing into the field because of rain water), you get salmonella and die because you ate a salad or melon. | Jul 21 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's gotten so bad here that official government statistics admit that about one in four Americans will suffer from some degree of food poisoning over the course of their life. | Jul 21 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Like most things nowadays, that puts us somewhere between the other "developed nations" and Mexico, even though we pay more. | Jul 21 00:55 |
| *DaemonFC used to work 40 hours a week, every week, stocking frozen foods, 90% of which he wouldn't personally eat. | Jul 21 00:56 | |
| DaemonFC | It's not too hard to figure out why people are getting sick. | Jul 21 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | The stuff comes in 4-5 pallets at a time, even in rural US Walmart stores. | Jul 21 00:57 |
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| DaemonFC | Someone is setting off fireworks. | Jul 21 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | This is what you get when you can't afford to live on the good side of town. | Jul 21 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | I called the police. | Jul 21 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | For whatever good that will do. | Jul 21 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | They said they already have units in the area. | Jul 21 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | Well, they're still going off. | Jul 21 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think the opportunity to fine someone $5,000 would get them off their asses. | Jul 21 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | I always use a caller ID spoofing system when I call the police. It replaces my phone number with 000-0000. | Jul 21 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like talking to them. I don't want my name or number in any reports. | Jul 21 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | You know you're always thinking "What happens if the people I complain about figure out who called?". | Jul 21 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | This is how you know people are getting dumber. | Jul 21 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | Coupon terms have changed from "Limit one coupon per purchase." to "You are not allowed to use more than one coupon per item." | Jul 21 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | I ran into one of those braniac cashiers that argued with me about the former language. She took it to mean one coupon per transaction. I said "It says one per purchase. How many am I purchasing?". | Jul 21 05:05 |
| schestowitz | hi DaemonFC | Jul 21 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | Hello. :) | Jul 21 05:07 |
| schestowitz | did you see th Indiana news re Howard Zinn? | Jul 21 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Jul 21 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Our current governor is censoring the comments people leave on his Facebook page. | Jul 21 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Our former governor is trying to rewrite history. | Jul 21 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Don't blame me. I voted for the other guy. | Jul 21 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Jul 21 05:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864528 | Jul 21 05:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @bumi@joindiaspora.com: #Panama Nails a #CIA #Torture Capo http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/19/panama-nails-a-cia-torture-capo/ | Jul 21 05:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Panama Nails a CIA Torture Capo » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names .::. Size~: 52.38 KB | Jul 21 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | I've said that a lot whenever people give me bad news. | Jul 21 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/18/colorado-town-ponders-drone-bounty | Jul 21 05:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Colorado town ponders bounty for shooting down drones | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 120.66 KB | Jul 21 05:16 |
| DaemonFC | The proposed ordinance would issue drone hunting licenses. LOL | Jul 21 05:16 |
| schestowitz | send this to the censor https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/18963_671594179520605_94656369_n.jpg | Jul 21 05:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jul 21 05:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: cool, shooting them down would risk people on the ground though | Jul 21 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't present the wreckage to claim the $100 though. | Jul 21 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | The federal government will show up and want to know who did it. | Jul 21 05:18 |
| schestowitz | I like this saying: http://www.mysticmamma.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/image2.jpg | Jul 21 05:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jul 21 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | Dear Coupons.com, | Jul 21 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | I would like to use your website, unfortunately your Windows software is incompatible with my GNU/Linux system. | Jul 21 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Even more obnoxiously, some of your coupons also require people to have a Facebook account. | Jul 21 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Is there a way to print out any of your coupons without installing Microsoft Windows or using a Facebook account? Is there an option to have them mailed? | Jul 21 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Would you consider changing your policy of requiring untrusted proprietary software entirely? | Jul 21 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | Thank you. | Jul 21 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | doubt they'll reply to it, but it's nice to let them know they're losing at least some business. | Jul 21 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/3M-Filtrete-Fast-Flow-Filter/dp/B0040N795M | Jul 21 05:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: 3M Filtrete Fast Flow Filter: Kitchen & Dining .::. Size~: 481.7 KB | Jul 21 05:36 |
| DaemonFC | I've been having problems with these. The water here is so hard that the filter (which is supposed to last three months) plugs up in about a month. | Jul 21 05:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2863912 | Jul 21 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 21 05:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 05:53 |
| schestowitz | The U.S. and Israel are conspicuous by their absence from the list. | Jul 21 05:53 |
| schestowitz | And I would include national and international banking amongst the group of criminal gangs, for currency and exotic 'instruments' really only exist ephemerally. | Jul 21 05:53 |
| schestowitz | Perhaps we should treat the real world as we treat cyberspace, free, and supra-national. | Jul 21 05:53 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 05:53 |
| schestowitz | Don't forget corporations that play a part in it. | Jul 21 05:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2863851 :"? wrong link" | Jul 21 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 8 reasons our economy is more dysfunctional http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/17659-what-the-empire-didnt-hear-us-spying-and-resistance-in-latin-america "Self-sacrifice, fear and lowered expectations are the new normal" | Jul 21 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: What the Empire Didn't Hear: US Spying and Resistance in Latin America .::. Size~: 54.64 KB | Jul 21 05:55 |
| schestowitz | Yes, sorry. http://www.salon.com/2013/07/20/recovery_for_whom_americas_new_economy_is_as_dysfunctional_as_ever_partner/ | Jul 21 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 8 reasons our economy is more dysfunctional than ever - Salon.com .::. Size~: 176.88 KB | Jul 21 05:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2863821 | Jul 21 05:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @anonymiss@despora.de:  #Whistleblowing #Journalism #Press #Media #Politics | Jul 21 05:56 |
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| schestowitz | "These days we call it "Terrorism"" | Jul 21 05:57 |
| schestowitz | Aiding the enemy (terrorists) | Jul 21 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.weather.com/news/science/most-painful-insect-stings-20130717?pageno=4 | Jul 21 06:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Most Painful Insect Stings - weather.com .::. Size~: 68.95 KB | Jul 21 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | yellow jackets.... | Jul 21 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | I did find a nest and I killed them all. | Jul 21 06:51 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: The latest Techbytes sounds really awful due to excess gain and clipping on , I think, the local voice. How about editing it with audacity and rerecord the clipped sections, since you know what you said? Audacity is very easy to use. | Jul 21 07:38 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: The anti-Linux propagandists in COLA have been crowing about the bad recording all day. | Jul 21 07:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864822 | Jul 21 07:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In yet another attack from #plutocrat #bloomberg (Ben Moshinsky, Saleha Mohsin, and Cornelius Rahn) #Wikileaks called "antisecrecy website" | Jul 21 07:40 |
| schestowitz | "what are you talking about exactly?" | Jul 21 07:40 |
| schestowitz | Smears against Assange from the plutocrats' press | Jul 21 07:40 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: And if the remote voice is Stallman I think you owe him and GNU a good job. | Jul 21 07:41 |
| schestowitz | msb__: they have nothi better to do | Jul 21 07:41 |
| schestowitz | They also try to lie to create a rift between people | Jul 21 07:41 |
| schestowitz | The video interviews with RMS will have much better sound quality | Jul 21 07:41 |
| msb__ | But you can easily fix this one. | Jul 21 07:41 |
| msb__ | Of course they're lying. They're psychopaths. But cola has an audience of about 60,000 people. | Jul 21 07:42 |
| msb__ | According to google. | Jul 21 07:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2860518 | Jul 21 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Yahoo is destroying #Tumblr with #censorship and #prism http://www.ibtimes.com/yahoo-censors-tumblr-porn-new-policy-makes-10-percent-tumblr-users-invisible-1353471 | Jul 21 07:43 |
| schestowitz | 'The problem is, most blog hosting platforms don't have the social media features that Tumblr has. I have made friends over Tumblr that I never would have met had we been using another service." | Jul 21 07:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Yahoo Censors Tumblr Porn: New Policy Makes 10 Percent Of Tumblr Users Invisible .::. Size~: 168.97 KB | Jul 21 07:43 |
| schestowitz | msb__: no, depends on how you count "audience" | Jul 21 07:43 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: You and RMS are Linux superstars. You should to a good job! | Jul 21 07:44 |
| msb__ | "The truth is the Linux community takes no pride in their work." | Jul 21 07:45 |
| msb__ | "Certainly seems true of Roy and Goblin with their show." Flatfish and Snit. | Jul 21 07:47 |
| schestowitz | I see COLA is making fun of a recent headline, or rather, the troll does | Jul 21 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft p[propagandist | Jul 21 07:48 |
| msb__ | Well, they probably get daily feeds of propaganda from Microsoft. | Jul 21 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Florian is subscribed | Jul 21 07:50 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft pR department | Jul 21 07:50 |
| schestowitz | based on what he was insinuating after I had blasted IBM PR | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz | THey use him to relay their anti-Android propaganda | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz | I gaher much of what he publishes is reused text and talking points passed to him from Microsoft's PR people | Jul 21 07:51 |
| schestowitz | they just need to put it out there BY PROXY | Jul 21 07:52 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/09/01/microsoft-mccarthyism/ | Jul 21 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Comes Antitrust: Microsoft McCarthyism Exposed | Techrights .::. Size~: 142.75 KB | Jul 21 07:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/358845193543352320 | Jul 21 08:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 08:12 |
| schestowitz | "Maths Behind Leak Crackdown: 153 Cases, 4 Years, 0 Indictments - http://nyti.ms/15W6Ur3 escalating war on #whistelblowers (v @schestowitz)" | Jul 21 08:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Log In - The New York Times .::. Size~: 10.48 KB | Jul 21 08:12 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. Groklaw has a headline typo | Jul 21 08:37 |
| schestowitz | "Commision" | Jul 21 08:37 |
| schestowitz | This is why I read my headlines thrice before hitting publish | Jul 21 08:37 |
| iophk | starting up the pr against the Chromebook already: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57594219-1/windows-users-open-letter-to-android-boss-sundar-pichai/ | Jul 21 09:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864812 | Jul 21 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Windows user's open letter to Android boss Sundar Pichai | Crave - CNET .::. Size~: 71.93 KB | Jul 21 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @latomatemasquee@diasp.org: GOP Rep Peter King confirms he may enter White House race Look who wants to be the next President, let us listen to him: “Obviously, the economy is important, but the first requirement in the Constitution is to defend the country against foreign attack and provide for national defense,” “The only way that’s been brought up [so far by other contenders] is to how quickly we can withdraw troops and whether | Jul 21 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by latomatemasquee@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_43ed71c90acdaaea6904.jpg | Jul 21 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by latomatemasquee@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_43ed71c90acdaaea6904.jpg | Jul 21 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: GOP Rep Peter King confirms he may enter White House race | Irish News | IrishCentral .::. Size~: 57.49 KB | Jul 21 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Peter King On Why Wikileaks Should Be Declared A Terrorist Organization [Video] | Observer .::. Size~: 57.16 KB | Jul 21 09:06 |
| schestowitz | The right-right-right wing | Jul 21 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | It won't happen. | Jul 21 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | An idiot like that won't even make it out of the primaries. | Jul 21 09:07 |
| schestowitz | iophk: http://www.ericmackonline.com/ICA/blogs/emonline.nsf/dx/microsoft-save-windows-xp-or-ill-switch-to-a-mac | Jul 21 09:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eric Mack On-Line - Microsoft: Save Windows XP! (or I’ll switch to a Mac?) .::. Size~: 46.8 KB | Jul 21 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Same author | Jul 21 09:08 |
| schestowitz | Eric's Thoughts : http://www.notesonproductivity.com/ICA/NOP.nsf/dx/microsoft-windows---a-more-productive-platform-for-business... | Jul 21 09:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Notes on Productivity - Microsoft Windows - Better for business? .::. Size~: 49.16 KB | Jul 21 09:08 |
| schestowitz | " I'll throw the first salvo in the battle for productivity. I contend that in my experience using both XP and Vista, I have found XP to be far more productive for me. Michael just purchased a new Thinkpad with Vista. Once again, I look forward to learning from Michael's choice. ;-) " | Jul 21 09:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.notesonproductivity.com/ica/nop.nsf/dx/microsoft-raises-the-bar-on-student-expectations-for-email?opendocument&comments | Jul 21 09:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Notes on Productivity - Microsoft raises the bar on student expectations for email .::. Size~: 53.53 KB | Jul 21 09:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ericmackonline.com/ICA/blogs/emonline.nsf/dx/microsoft-buys-groove-what-does-it-all-mean | Jul 21 09:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eric Mack On-Line - Microsoft buys Groove - what does it all mean? .::. Size~: 39.18 KB | Jul 21 09:10 |
| schestowitz | "Michael Sampson, research director at Shared Spaces Research & Consulting attended yesterday's briefing with Bill Gates, Jeff Raikes, and Ray Ozzie; he's put up an informative and thought-provoking post on his site." | Jul 21 09:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft booster in disguise IMGO | Jul 21 09:10 |
| schestowitz | Pretending to be "concenred" about Linux | Jul 21 09:10 |
| schestowitz | The "concerned troll" | Jul 21 09:10 |
| iophk | Thin disguise | Jul 21 09:10 |
| schestowitz | Not the "curious troll" anymore | Jul 21 09:10 |
| schestowitz | So now he speaks 'on behalf' of ChromeOS users | Jul 21 09:10 |
| schestowitz | in CNET, i.e. CBS | Jul 21 09:10 |
| iophk | That seems to be the same tactic they use via Black Duck and OutreCurve | Jul 21 09:17 |
| iophk | http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/19/us-microsoft-research-idUSBRE96I0MO20130719 | Jul 21 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft shares hit by biggest sell-off since 2009 | Reuters .::. Size~: 92.07 KB | Jul 21 09:28 |
| iophk | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/07/nokia-q2-analysis-this-is-textbook-comprehensively-failed-strategy-in-numbers.html | Jul 21 09:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Communities Dominate Brands: Nokia Q2 Analysis - This is Textbook Comprehensively Failed Strategy in Numbers .::. Size~: 107.69 KB | Jul 21 09:30 |
| schestowitz | iophk: biggest since 2000 | Jul 21 09:32 |
| schestowitz | according to CNET's eduitor | Jul 21 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Cooper | Jul 21 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Did he miss something? | Jul 21 09:32 |
| schestowitz | Or are they using as reference a different yardstick? | Jul 21 09:32 |
| iophk | Probably trying to downplay the siginificance. | Jul 21 09:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jsfyfield/status/358866961628807169 | Jul 21 09:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 09:33 |
| schestowitz | "If this was in a speech, have you got a link? Not disputing it, just interested." | Jul 21 09:33 |
| schestowitz | Informal chat, not an interview or talk. | Jul 21 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.moneytalksnews.com/2013/07/03/jailed-seniors-cost-americans-16-billion-per-year/ | Jul 21 09:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jailed Seniors Cost Americans $16 Billion Per Year | Money Talks News .::. Size~: 32.08 KB | Jul 21 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | It makes sense. they're a growing demographic and they have high medical expenses. | Jul 21 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's not especially hard to go to prison. | Jul 21 09:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864656 | Jul 21 09:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Yesterday I saw a very libellous article portraying #snowden as #chemtrails proponent using fake quotes. Making up dirt. #nsa #libel #cia | Jul 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz | "A chemtrails proponent. Is that seriously how we're smearing people these days? Oh, Edward, he's a bloody chemtrails proponent." | Jul 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz | "o.k. maybe it's a satire site, sorry I didn't understand too much about it, I'm just following since about 20 years now the orgon theme and then I heared theories about haarp came up. for me it's not too far to believe that sth. going on like weather experiments...(in the seventies they found place in africa already) I read about james de meo and I think there must be sth. on that. let's talk about that, even when the posted stuff | Jul 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz | should be nonsense..." | Jul 21 09:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2862674 | Jul 21 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Techrights Needs Readers’ Support http://techrights.org/2013/07/20/readers-support/ #Techrights | Jul 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz | The benefit to the subscriber is that they get to give you money painlessly. $10/month is easy for just about anyone and that can be a minimum donation. As the humble bumble and GNU show, people often give more than that. What matters is setting up a way for people who want Techrights to remain advertisement free to keep it that way and pay for itself. | Jul 21 09:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Techrights Needs Readers’ Support | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.32 KB | Jul 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz | You might send out stickers, New Year's cards or other spiffs by mail as a thank you. | Jul 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 09:38 |
| schestowitz | There have only been three donations to the site in 7 years. If there's more, then I'll try to work out such a plan. Phoronix does that and I don't know how well it goes. | Jul 21 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | That's weird. | Jul 21 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | A car insurance company gives a discount if you have a paypal account, even if you don't use it to pay... | Jul 21 09:42 |
| schestowitz | which company? | Jul 21 09:49 |
| schestowitz | Where? | Jul 21 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | esurance | Jul 21 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm checking car insurance rates before I renew with the company I'm with now. | Jul 21 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | esurance ended up being about another $100 a year, so I'll pass. :P | Jul 21 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | The paypal discount would have been $3.60 a year. | Jul 21 09:51 |
| iophk | Ahonen can be a little thick about Elop. He is still going on the premise that Elop is there to work for Nokia, not to drive it into the ground or to advance M$ | Jul 21 09:52 |
| schestowitz | Elop works for Nokia... | Jul 21 09:53 |
| schestowitz | ...under the assumption that Nokia is now a department of Microsoft :-) | Jul 21 09:53 |
| iophk | That would be about it. | Jul 21 09:53 |
| iophk | But it's interesting that he has to destroy Nokia completely as part of the M$ mandate. | Jul 21 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | Not going to check State Farm. Last time I did, I had a local agent calling me every week for a month. | Jul 21 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Nokia is otherwise dangerous to Microsoft | Jul 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Remember why Nokia backed Symbian | Jul 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | It was afrad of having to depend on Microsoft | Jul 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Along with other companies | Jul 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | So they backed Symbian, collectively | Jul 21 09:55 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft devalues hardware companies | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | it had them race to the bottom on the hardware | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | e.g. HP and Dell | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | While sucking up to Microsoft over prices | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | and the only one enjoying high margins is Microsoft | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | So to depend on another company, esp. Microsoft, for margins is a bad idea | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Anyone can make hardware | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | but to use Windows you must go through Microsoft | Jul 21 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is exploiting this to be the main margin gainer, which it can no longer do because there's competition that's not as expensive as "Apple"-branded PCs | Jul 21 09:57 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: James De Meo is severely evil. He's a Zionist. He wrote a book -- _Sharasia_ about how Arabs are inherently evil due to living in a desert, ignoring that Jews lived in the same climate. | Jul 21 09:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft can try to claim it's no longer attackign Linux while it's actively attacking Android and Google | Jul 21 09:58 |
| msb__ | _Saharasia_ | Jul 21 09:58 |
| iophk | Nokia made Symbian open source and had a highly successful Linux phone. | Jul 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | msb__: a lot of people are so brainwashed | Jul 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | They think that Israeli Arabs are not Israelis | Jul 21 09:58 |
| schestowitz | Or that they're not "born here" | Jul 21 09:58 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: De Meo also claims that HIV does not exist: http://www.orgonelab.org/cart/xaids.htm | Jul 21 09:58 |
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| schestowitz | Even though they had been there long before the diaspora into the country (Zionism) | Jul 21 09:59 |
| schestowitz | They also call Russian-born Israelis "Russians" | Jul 21 09:59 |
| msb__ | Yep. | Jul 21 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Imagine if the Brits called people from other countries who are naturalised "not British" | Jul 21 09:59 |
| schestowitz | It's a cultural thing | Jul 21 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Racism is a norm where the statehood is tied to religion and brainwash | Jul 21 10:00 |
| schestowitz | msb__: the other day someone told me that many doctros in Israel are now "Arabs" and "Russians" | Jul 21 10:00 |
| msb__ | The discoveries of Wilhelm Reich are perhaps the most important ever made. It's a real shame that De Meo claims to be the representative and inheritor of Reich's work. | Jul 21 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Ignoring the fact that they're Israelis | Jul 21 10:00 |
| schestowitz | And calling the "others" Israelis | Jul 21 10:01 |
| schestowitz | As though they make the nationality synonymous with a religion and country of birth | Jul 21 10:01 |
| schestowitz | msb__: before long, Zionism was a marginalised opinion treated as extremist and largely disregarded, not accepted, by most | Jul 21 10:01 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, I don't see why it's discussed in #techrights | Jul 21 10:02 |
| msb__ | Regardless of who calls whom "Israelis", the Zionists had no right to invade Palestine in 1948, and gradually conquer over 90% of it and rob and enslave the Palestinians, all with U.S. help. | Jul 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | You mean Arabs | Jul 21 10:02 |
| schestowitz | Many became Israelis | Jul 21 10:02 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Err, you mentioned De Meo. | Jul 21 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Others didn't, and they label themselvs Arabs | Jul 21 10:03 |
| schestowitz | Jerusalem was not occupied by many of them | Jul 21 10:03 |
| schestowitz | If you look at the numbers | Jul 21 10:03 |
| schestowitz | It's not as simple as you put it | Jul 21 10:03 |
| schestowitz | be careful of pro-Palestine propaganda, it can be as inaccurate Zionist propaganda, you need to check both side and compare | Jul 21 10:04 |
| schestowitz | *sides | Jul 21 10:04 |
| schestowitz | Same as reading both CNN and RT | Jul 21 10:04 |
| schestowitz | THey explain each others's lies | Jul 21 10:04 |
| schestowitz | And then you realise you talk of two sides of liars | Jul 21 10:04 |
| schestowitz | and both sides can be bad, don't think like Hollywood wants you to think, of any scenario being reduced to hero and villain, or good guys vs bad guys | Jul 21 10:05 |
| schestowitz | use facts, don't pick sides, educate those who choose a side only based on dogma, conviction, and environmental factors | Jul 21 10:05 |
| schestowitz | A lot of USians are becoming more like you, they challenge the state | Jul 21 10:05 |
| msb__ | Very evil Harry Truman, who nuked Japan when he knew they were going to surrender, pushed the resolution through the UN that gave the Zionists part of Palestine because, "I have lots of Jewish adherents, and no Arabs." | Jul 21 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Like USians who supported the German Nazis, the genocide by the US army and CIA around the world | Jul 21 10:06 |
| schestowitz | ANd that happens because they receive information which was successfully suppressed (for most) before the Internret | Jul 21 10:06 |
| schestowitz | msb__: annexation of that area after WW2 makes it more complicated | Jul 21 10:07 |
| schestowitz | The British Mandate had Jordan too | Jul 21 10:07 |
| schestowitz | And the borders were not long established | Jul 21 10:07 |
| schestowitz | The Germans had aided Iran | Jul 21 10:07 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: The zionists invaded Palestine. Invaders are always morally wrong. | Jul 21 10:07 |
| schestowitz | And as an Iranian recently explained to me, the British/US coup there is more tricky than pro-Iran spin would have us all believe | Jul 21 10:07 |
| schestowitz | The country which had been made was divided | Jul 21 10:08 |
| msb__ | By 1948, the Jews were no longer in danger from the Nazis. They didn't need a "homeland". | Jul 21 10:08 |
| schestowitz | between "Arabs" and "Jews" | Jul 21 10:08 |
| schestowitz | But there was no Israel and Palestine | Jul 21 10:08 |
| schestowitz | The fiction of the people who want statehood under PLO is that there was one country which was then invaded and relablled | Jul 21 10:09 |
| schestowitz | That's not the cas | Jul 21 10:09 |
| schestowitz | It's revisionism | Jul 21 10:09 |
| schestowitz | msb__: not the point | Jul 21 10:09 |
| schestowitz | many had fled there before or during the Holocaust | Jul 21 10:09 |
| schestowitz | the 1930s | Jul 21 10:09 |
| schestowitz | So by 1948 there were already many in there | Jul 21 10:09 |
| schestowitz | You could argue that continued influx was not justified | Jul 21 10:10 |
| msb__ | There were Palestinian arabs living there for hundreds of years, along with a small percentage of jews. They were living there peacefully until the zionists -- with heavy weapons -- invaded and started murdering them wholesale. | Jul 21 10:10 |
| iophk | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/10192789/David-Cameron-Web-firms-have-a-moral-duty-to-wipe-out-indecent-images.html | Jul 21 10:10 |
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| schestowitz | But if you look at demography changes over time, you'll realise that if they hadn't immigrated there and defied British repelling boats, many more would have been murdered by the Nazis | Jul 21 10:10 |
| msb__ | I'm talking about after the nazis were put down. | Jul 21 10:11 |
| schestowitz | That's a different matter | Jul 21 10:11 |
| schestowitz | At that stage I think there were already population parties there, almost... | Jul 21 10:11 |
| schestowitz | It didn't work out too badly for the locals who accepted Israeli nationality and got social care, healthcare, etc. thereafter | Jul 21 10:12 |
| schestowitz | But the brutal expansion and occupation is not excusable | Jul 21 10:12 |
| schestowitz | iophk: UK censorship is worse than the US | Jul 21 10:13 |
| msb__ | Arabs in Palestine had homes, farms, factories, newspapers, etc., and had for a long time. Zionists had been planning as early as 1895 to expel or exterminate the Palestinians. | Jul 21 10:13 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-crowdfunds-massive-10th-anniversary-festival-130719/ | Jul 21 10:13 |
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| DaemonFC | I need to go by the store. I'm out of damned near everything. :P | Jul 21 10:14 |
| schestowitz | msb__: there was hardly extermination of genocide, but there was murder along the way | Jul 21 10:14 |
| *DaemonFC switched to almond milk. | Jul 21 10:14 | |
| DaemonFC | It's actually not bad. | Jul 21 10:14 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: At various times, the zionists murdered many thousands per attack. | Jul 21 10:15 |
| msb__ | They've routinely kidnapped, torture, and thereby permanently crippled, Palestinian males. | Jul 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz | and vice versa | Jul 21 10:16 |
| msb__ | tortured | Jul 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Both sides were brutal | Jul 21 10:16 |
| msb__ | NO!!! | Jul 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Jul 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz | The difference is | Jul 21 10:16 |
| msb__ | Invaders are always morally wrong. | Jul 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz | One side came from the outside | Jul 21 10:16 |
| schestowitz | and was therefore in a less privileged position to do so | Jul 21 10:17 |
| msb__ | The Palestinians sometimes tried to defend themselves with homemade rockets that rarely harmed anyone. | Jul 21 10:17 |
| schestowitz | msb__: that would include the Romans, Turks, and Brits in Palestine | Jul 21 10:17 |
| msb__ | The Zionists have rained down white phosphorus and nerve gas on the Palestinians -- hightech weapons. | Jul 21 10:18 |
| schestowitz | msb__: they didn't have access to good ammo and arms, like the ones imported from Czechoslovakia | Jul 21 10:18 |
| schestowitz | msb__: you're jumping to 60 years later | Jul 21 10:18 |
| schestowitz | With gradual right of return a lot can be resolved | Jul 21 10:19 |
| schestowitz | and dismantling illegal "settlements" | Jul 21 10:19 |
| schestowitz | Independence to another state | Jul 21 10:19 |
| schestowitz | And so on | Jul 21 10:19 |
| schestowitz | But a lot of right-wingers and Zionists now control the politics in a nation that's made devoid of humane folks (brain drain), so there's not much chance of it happening | Jul 21 10:20 |
| schestowitz | Peres will die sooner or later, so only Hawks will rule | Jul 21 10:20 |
| msb__ | And they are totally backed by the US Fascists. | Jul 21 10:20 |
| schestowitz | One who could achieve peace got assassinated by a radical Zionist | Jul 21 10:21 |
| schestowitz | msb__: because of AIPAC et al. | Jul 21 10:21 |
| msb__ | Yes. | Jul 21 10:21 |
| schestowitz | They bribe some people in the Evangelical community to play with the minds of sheep | Jul 21 10:21 |
| schestowitz | and away public opinion in the press | Jul 21 10:21 |
| schestowitz | or retaliate against politicians who view things like European | Jul 21 10:22 |
| schestowitz | See Bobby Fischer to see how far retribution goes | Jul 21 10:22 |
| schestowitz | He was treated like Snowden | Jul 21 10:22 |
| msb__ | The US fascists don't particularly like Jews, but Israel is their pitbull in the oil patch. | Jul 21 10:22 |
| msb__ | 400 nukes. | Jul 21 10:22 |
| schestowitz | From national hero for serving the propaganda machine against the Soviets to a villain for criticising US foreign policy and Zionism | Jul 21 10:22 |
| schestowitz | Iceland gave him asylum after he was robbed of his passport and unjustly sent to prison in Japan, where he was abused | Jul 21 10:23 |
| schestowitz | Holland holds many US nukes | Jul 21 10:23 |
| schestowitz | The former PM said so | Jul 21 10:23 |
| schestowitz | And the press ain't covering it | Jul 21 10:23 |
| schestowitz | They're holding in bunkers nuclear weapons for the US now, acting like an outpost at risk to its own citizens | Jul 21 10:24 |
| msb__ | But Israel has threatened to nuke the major cities of Europe if Israel is attacked. The "Samson Option". | Jul 21 10:25 |
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| schestowitz | [Citation needed] | Jul 21 10:28 |
| schestowitz | (and not some crackpot site) | Jul 21 10:28 |
| msb__ | http://www.amazon.com/Samson-Option-Israels-Nuclear-American/dp/0679743316/ | Jul 21 10:35 |
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| msb__ | http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html | Jul 21 10:36 |
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| msb__ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/IsraelInfoCensored.html | Jul 21 10:36 |
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| schestowitz | I can see the book from Hersh. What does it say about it? | Jul 21 10:38 |
| schestowitz | Looking at some reviews, it's about how the nuclear programme was put together, I don't see anythign supporting your assertion yet, so it might just be an "appeal to authority" unless you can quote him saying that Israel threatened to nuke European cities | Jul 21 10:39 |
| msb__ | Please read this page. It specifies its sources. http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html | Jul 21 10:44 |
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| schestowitz | I've just read it and it doesn't say anything of threats against European cities | Jul 21 10:45 |
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| schestowitz | In fact, it hardly says anything most people didn't already know, it just has many references including that book | Jul 21 10:46 |
| msb__ | Mordechai Vanunu has alleged that Israel uses for purposes of blackmail its ability to "bombard any city all over the world, and not only those in Europe but also those in the United States."[8] | Jul 21 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Any examples? | Jul 21 10:53 |
| msb__ | The Israeli govt, and Zionists in general, are fascist psychopaths. | Jul 21 10:53 |
| schestowitz | that it " threatened to nuke the major cities of Europe," as you put it | Jul 21 10:53 |
| msb__ | They've turned Palestine into a prison for the Palestinians. | Jul 21 10:53 |
| msb__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanunu | Jul 21 10:55 |
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| msb__ | Vanunu is believable. The threats would have been made secretly to avoid bad PR. | Jul 21 10:57 |
| msb__ | You have to look at the character of the Israeli govt. Bombing schoolchildren with white phosphorus. Creating special nerve gas in colored bombs with a nice smell. People who breathed it had seizures and terrible pains for months. | Jul 21 10:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865117 | Jul 21 10:59 |
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| schestowitz | "I'm honestly surprised it's called "1.1" and that they're not instantly jumping to "Firefox OS 2" ;)" | Jul 21 11:00 |
| msb__ | The IDF has T-shirts showing a pregnant Palestinian woman in a gunsight with a caption like "Get two for one". | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | msb__: but that's an appeal to authority again, and extrapolating based on you not liking someone | Jul 21 11:00 |
| schestowitz | it's not an actual example, like person X told person Y in country Z we would bomb you if.. | Jul 21 11:00 |
| msb__ | No it isn't not liking someone, it is an objective evaluation of the group personality of the Israeli govt. | Jul 21 11:01 |
| schestowitz | it's not an example or support of an ellegation you made. I'm just trying to get the facts right. | Jul 21 11:01 |
| msb__ | And as I said, the nuclear threats would have been made secretly to avoid bad PR. | Jul 21 11:01 |
| msb__ | But Vanunu says they were made. | Jul 21 11:01 |
| schestowitz | If you throw around claims which are false, then people will stop listening, so I am trying to help keep the message accurate, so as to make it effective | Jul 21 11:02 |
| msb__ | And he is Israel's greatest whistleblower. | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Vanunu was noa a politician | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | He was not even a senior where he had worked | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | If threats were made, a politician would made them | Jul 21 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Not a plant worker | Jul 21 11:02 |
| msb__ | He told the truth about Israel's nukes and was kidnapped and imprisoned by the for decades. | Jul 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | So I don't see how his claim, which specifies no specific example, is more credible than others | Jul 21 11:03 |
| msb__ | He told the truth about Israel's nukes and was kidnapped and imprisoned by them for decades. | Jul 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | He wasn't 'suicided' like Ben Zygler | Jul 21 11:03 |
| schestowitz | Just smeared to death by the propaganda/state press | Jul 21 11:03 |
| msb__ | imprisoned by Israel for decades. | Jul 21 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Obama and Biden threaten countries which consider giving asylum to Snowden | Jul 21 11:04 |
| schestowitz | And we know this because we have quotes | Jul 21 11:04 |
| schestowitz | from both sides | Jul 21 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Now, show that nuclear threats were made to European leaders | Jul 21 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Not deterrence that's quiet | Jul 21 11:04 |
| schestowitz | But actual threats | Jul 21 11:04 |
| schestowitz | Or withdraw this claim, which you can't support | Jul 21 11:05 |
| msb__ | You are asking the impossible, because the threats could only be secret. But there are plenty of pro- and anti-Zionists who vouch for them. | Jul 21 11:06 |
| msb__ | Just like you don't want to believe the 9-11 research. Regarding which, please watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc | Jul 21 11:08 |
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| msb__ | And remember that F=ma -- Newton's Second Law of Motion -- is a _vector_ equation. | Jul 21 11:09 |
| schestowitz | you are a straw man proponent there | Jul 21 11:17 |
| schestowitz | focus on how the hijackers got this far | Jul 21 11:17 |
| schestowitz | rather than challenge with bogus claims the wrong things | Jul 21 11:18 |
| schestowitz | 9/11 raises many questions | Jul 21 11:18 |
| schestowitz | but not how the buildings fell | Jul 21 11:18 |
| msb__ | The video proves that explosives destroyed the towers. | Jul 21 11:19 |
| schestowitz | you discrdit those who ask the ral question | Jul 21 11:19 |
| schestowitz | like, why did cia hlep the guys get visas | Jul 21 11:19 |
| msb__ | That's another part of it. But I choose to examine the physical evidence. | Jul 21 11:20 |
| schestowitz | No, the Commission's report is flawed for other reasons | Jul 21 11:20 |
| msb__ | It's much more difficult to hand-wave away. | Jul 21 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Stop focusing in unnecessary explanations | Jul 21 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Occams's Razor and scientists explain why the planes took the buildings down | Jul 21 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Now, concentrate on other aspects that are worth exploring | Jul 21 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Like, how did these guys get as far as they did. | Jul 21 11:21 |
| msb__ | What blew all those girders sideways at high speed. Gravitational force pulls downward. | Jul 21 11:21 |
| schestowitz | the 9/11 "truthers" mostly do a disservice by paining with a broad brush anyone who dares to question the involvement from the intel' community | Jul 21 11:22 |
| schestowitz | And in that sense, "truthers" HELP the official story | Jul 21 11:22 |
| schestowitz | They make a false alternatives | Jul 21 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Which sometimes makes me wonder if the government is boosting and shoring up theose guys | Jul 21 11:22 |
| schestowitz | E.g. by giving them a platform on TV | Jul 21 11:22 |
| msb__ | Explain how that video is "false". | Jul 21 11:22 |
| schestowitz | while not giving a platform to those who ask the right questions, RMS for instance | Jul 21 11:23 |
| schestowitz | there are no "explosations" | Jul 21 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Except maybe of the plane's tanks | Jul 21 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Some videos are doctored | Jul 21 11:23 |
| schestowitz | and they have been spread to help discredit the "truthers" or to be all opprtunistic by sexing up stuff | Jul 21 11:24 |
| schestowitz | So you have to ensure you watch the original | Jul 21 11:24 |
| schestowitz | And at right speed | Jul 21 11:24 |
| msb__ | Then what blew all those girders sideway during the collapses. Some so hard they stuck in nearby buildings. | Jul 21 11:24 |
| schestowitz | It's not freefall | Jul 21 11:24 |
| schestowitz | No building fell at freefall speed | Jul 21 11:24 |
| msb__ | So" | Jul 21 11:25 |
| schestowitz | And there were no "explosions"; where it seems compelling it's likely a fake derivative | Jul 21 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Which poisons the well | Jul 21 11:25 |
| msb__ | So? | Jul 21 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Which of course just helps discredit "truthers", as soon as one points it out and proves the base material to be fake | Jul 21 11:25 |
| msb__ | How do you "know" there were no explosions? | Jul 21 11:25 |
| schestowitz | You don't need to argue for them NOT exsiting | Jul 21 11:25 |
| schestowitz | For the same reason you can't ask me to prove god does NOT exist | Jul 21 11:26 |
| schestowitz | The burden of proof is on you | Jul 21 11:26 |
| msb__ | So you claim that Chandler used a faked video? | Jul 21 11:26 |
| schestowitz | To prove that many people planted explosives either at construction or before 9/11 and kept quiet about it all those years | Jul 21 11:26 |
| schestowitz | I saw the collapse many times | Jul 21 11:26 |
| schestowitz | The original | Jul 21 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Never did I see anything resembling explosions, just a collapse | Jul 21 11:27 |
| schestowitz | It happened twice, too | Jul 21 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Which supports the idea that this plane type collision would cause it | Jul 21 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Like a repeated experiment | Jul 21 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Similar observations, similar outcome | Jul 21 11:27 |
| msb__ | The girders flying sideways would be difficult to see with the naked eye. | Jul 21 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the "truthers" who support this theory should have a mock building contructed for them and some plane made to crash into it in a cotnrolled way to prove to them that it leads to collapse, but they wouldn't accept even that as a proof, it has become like a religion to some | Jul 21 11:28 |
| schestowitz | it's a chain reaction | Jul 21 11:29 |
| schestowitz | the more floors as razed, the more pressure there will be on the girders | Jul 21 11:29 |
| schestowitz | The pressure starts at the floor of the collision | Jul 21 11:29 |
| schestowitz | And moving downwards from there | Jul 21 11:29 |
| schestowitz | With DOZENS of higher floors pressuring the base floor by floor | Jul 21 11:29 |
| schestowitz | Thousands of tons | Jul 21 11:29 |
| msb__ | What sideways force blew the girders sideways? | Jul 21 11:29 |
| schestowitz | The question is, when is it warm enough for the girders to start going soft, and we know based on the fuel and the melting/softening point of the girders | Jul 21 11:30 |
| schestowitz | They don't need to melt, just soften | Jul 21 11:30 |
| schestowitz | and then they shift sideways | Jul 21 11:30 |
| schestowitz | the plane hit one side | Jul 21 11:31 |
| schestowitz | At each point | Jul 21 11:31 |
| schestowitz | so it was asymmetric | Jul 21 11:31 |
| schestowitz | There was a plane only in one side of each building | Jul 21 11:31 |
| schestowitz | When one side starts to lose balance, the other, the girders will tild one way and maybe break, too | Jul 21 11:31 |
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| msb__ | You're claiming that "tilting" and "sliding" are enough to accelerate multi-ton girders sideways to 70 mph so they penetrate nearby buildings? | Jul 21 11:34 |
| msb__ | Occam's Razor says F=ma. | Jul 21 11:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2863821# | Jul 21 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @anonymiss@despora.de:  #Whistleblowing #Journalism #Press #Media #Politics | Jul 21 11:35 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 11:36 |
| schestowitz | LoL, I find it kind of funny that media/goverments call our heroes Whistleblowers, do they even know the meaning of the word? | Jul 21 11:36 |
| schestowitz | "A whistleblower (whistle-blower or whistle blower)[1] is a person who exposes misconduct, alleged dishonest or illegal activity occurring in an organization. The alleged misconduct may be classified in many ways; for example, a violation of a law, rule, regulation and/or a direct threat to public interest, such as fraud, health and safety violations, and corruption. Whistleblowers may make their allegations internally (for example, to | Jul 21 11:36 |
| schestowitz | other people within the accused organization) or externally (to regulators, law enforcement agencies, to the media or to groups concerned with the issues)." | Jul 21 11:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 11:36 |
| msb__ | You're claiming that "tilting", "sliding", and "shifting" are enough to accelerate multi-ton girders sideways to 70 mph so they penetrate nearby buildings? | Jul 21 11:36 |
| schestowitz | Think of it like this: | Jul 21 11:36 |
| schestowitz | If I have a large girder bound together with some bolts and nuts | Jul 21 11:37 |
| schestowitz | MAde in some specialised factories like those that make plane wings | Jul 21 11:37 |
| schestowitz | then the girders can break at the connection points, even if there's solid welding | Jul 21 11:37 |
| schestowitz | When the building's weight puts sufficient pressure on the girders they can snap and then exit the building, which forces them the only direction is can, outwards (i.e. sideways | Jul 21 11:38 |
| msb__ | Why wouldn't they just fall DOWN, in the direction that gravity is pulling them. | Jul 21 11:39 |
| msb__ | ? | Jul 21 11:39 |
| schestowitz | Nailed deeper into the underground? | Jul 21 11:43 |
| iophk | pressure builds up until they squirt out sideways like a watermelon seed. | Jul 21 11:44 |
| msb__ | Most of the debris ended up in the subsub...basements. Plenty of space there. | Jul 21 11:45 |
| schestowitz | For steel to accomodate? | Jul 21 11:47 |
| schestowitz | it would snap before it crumbled at its base | Jul 21 11:47 |
| schestowitz | It's not made of jelly | Jul 21 11:47 |
| schestowitz | Even wood would snap sideways first | Jul 21 11:48 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Amazing that you claim that all the researchers investigating the physical evidence are COINTELPRO. First time I've ever heard that degree of bullshit. | Jul 21 12:04 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: You're supposed to be a science-oriented intellectual. But you are grasping at any straw in order to ignore F=ma. | Jul 21 12:06 |
| schestowitz | the vast majority of physicists agree with me on it | Jul 21 12:08 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: You start from an axiom that there were no explosives. Following from that, any explanation no matter how absurd or quantitatively insufficient, must be true. | Jul 21 12:08 |
| schestowitz | you need to prove explosives were put there | Jul 21 12:08 |
| msb__ | So now truth is determined by a majority vote. | Jul 21 12:08 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/07/21/olpc-changes-course-again/ | Jul 21 12:08 |
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| schestowitz | The burden of proof is on those who claim the existence of something that shouldn't be there, like claiming God | Jul 21 12:08 |
| schestowitz | msb__: of those with knowledge when it comes to construction and engineering | Jul 21 12:09 |
| msb__ | "shouldn't" according to what criteria? | Jul 21 12:09 |
| schestowitz | buildings don't generally keep explosives inside them | Jul 21 12:09 |
| schestowitz | If you claim there are some inside the WTC, then show some evidence from those who put explosives there | Jul 21 12:10 |
| schestowitz | or those who did routine checkups of the buildings | Jul 21 12:10 |
| msb__ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/#CORES | Jul 21 12:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli Governments .::. Size~: 22.75 KB | Jul 21 12:10 |
| schestowitz | Ah, Israel | Jul 21 12:11 |
| schestowitz | A classy | Jul 21 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Lumping in them as well | Jul 21 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Like sites that claim Israel runs the world, and somehow *nobody* knows about it | Jul 21 12:11 |
| msb__ | The Mossad video crew across the river was in place before the first plane hit. | Jul 21 12:12 |
| msb__ | Please read Chris Brown's website, linked at http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/#CORES | Jul 21 12:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli Governments .::. Size~: 22.75 KB | Jul 21 12:14 |
| msb__ | A PBS video broadcast in 1990 said that the 3-inch dia. rebars of the concrete cores were coated with an extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating. Required special welders with security clearances. | Jul 21 12:15 |
| schestowitz | "As seen in a PBS documentary, the three-inch diameter rebars were coated with plastic explosive." | Jul 21 12:16 |
| schestowitz | Where is the PBS documentary and what did it actually say? | Jul 21 12:16 |
| msb__ | A PBS video broadcast in 1990 said that the 3-inch dia. rebars of the concrete cores were coated with an extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating. Required special welders with security clearances. | Jul 21 12:17 |
| schestowitz | ah | Jul 21 12:17 |
| schestowitz | "extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating. " | Jul 21 12:17 |
| schestowitz | That's not the same as "coated with plastic explosive" | Jul 21 12:17 |
| schestowitz | You're warping what's saifd | Jul 21 12:17 |
| msb__ | Obviously anti-corrosion coatings don't have to be extremely flammable. | Jul 21 12:17 |
| schestowitz | is "extremely flammable" also worth putting quotes around? | Jul 21 12:17 |
| schestowitz | Or is that added by the demolition theory proponents? | Jul 21 12:18 |
| msb__ | The video was seen by several people, but copies were removed from libraries, and none can be found now. | Jul 21 12:18 |
| schestowitz | I need to see the original | Jul 21 12:18 |
| schestowitz | There tends to be a tendency to reword what was said | Jul 21 12:18 |
| iophk | Is FSDaily down for logins? Or is it shutting down quietly? | Jul 21 12:18 |
| schestowitz | msb__: ok, so it's easiet now to reword what was said | Jul 21 12:18 |
| schestowitz | "the evidence is no longer available, so trust me, I'll try to say from memory what it says" | Jul 21 12:19 |
| schestowitz | Like you said Israel had threatened to nuke European cities | Jul 21 12:19 |
| msb__ | You will always come up with an objection. Occam's Razor means nothing to someone who is emotionally certain. | Jul 21 12:19 |
| schestowitz | iophk: I think shuttinf down quietly | Jul 21 12:19 |
| schestowitz | Recently the site had some downtimes | Jul 21 12:19 |
| schestowitz | It's still a showcase for someone'ds CMS, Drigg | Jul 21 12:19 |
| schestowitz | if this site goes down, then it's probably a CMS running on not a single site | Jul 21 12:20 |
| schestowitz | msb__: you said that there were "plastic explosive" in there | Jul 21 12:20 |
| iophk | It's not got much attention lately | Jul 21 12:20 |
| schestowitz | as per your site | Jul 21 12:20 |
| schestowitz | msb__: and then you said something else | Jul 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | and said the source said nothing of this kind | Jul 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | iophk: true, but it's still running | Jul 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | the widget for Twitter has been banned universally by Twitter | Jul 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Along with some twitter clients | Jul 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | And identi,ca went the way of the dodo, I reckon.. | Jul 21 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Still waiting for Evan to mail me a link to my account data | Jul 21 12:22 |
| schestowitz | So that I can install StatusNet and import my data into it | Jul 21 12:22 |
| msb__ | There's no other explanation for the rebars of the concrete cores being coated with an extremely flammable "anti-corrosion" coating. | Jul 21 12:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe the corrosion :-) | Jul 21 12:24 |
| schestowitz | it's in the name | Jul 21 12:24 |
| msb__ | You're not making sense. | Jul 21 12:25 |
| schestowitz | BTW, your site says there's no such thing as AQ | Jul 21 12:26 |
| schestowitz | but AQ is the label of a Pentagon database | Jul 21 12:26 |
| schestowitz | of many people formerly used by the CIA to provoke the Soviets | Jul 21 12:26 |
| schestowitz | The misconeption is that the AQ thing is like an organisation whose origin is something different, as the corporate press likes to portray it | Jul 21 12:27 |
| msb__ | They were called the "mujahideen" when armed, paid, and trained by the US to attack the secular govt of Afghanistan in the 80's. | Jul 21 12:28 |
| msb__ | Now Obomber is using them to attack Syria. | Jul 21 12:29 |
| schestowitz | "Note: If you got to this page via a link from "Snit Michael Glasser", please click here. " | Jul 21 12:29 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jul 21 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Yes, that's real progessional | Jul 21 12:29 |
| schestowitz | In large fonts at the top | Jul 21 12:29 |
| schestowitz | Citing some weird anti-Linux troll | Jul 21 12:30 |
| msb__ | Glasser has posted thousands of attacks against me. I have to refute him. | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz | It makes it look like a duct-taped page | Jul 21 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Like those infamous very long, very poorly laid-out pages that people say should ring warning signs | Jul 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz | Like they're always work in progress and mostly the result of clippings and afterthoughts | Jul 21 12:31 |
| schestowitz | iophk: https://twitter.com/dvdsgl | Jul 21 12:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: David Siegel (dvdsgl) on Twitter .::. Size~: 173.99 KB | Jul 21 12:32 |
| schestowitz | "Engineer, designer & philosopher interested in technology and human flourishing. Futureproof, Xamarin." | Jul 21 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Xamarin | Jul 21 12:32 |
| schestowitz | No longer Canonical | Jul 21 12:32 |
| schestowitz | I found him now cause Twitter recommended that I follow him | Jul 21 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Interesting how the Mono boosters end up in this proprietary software company which promotes .NET | Jul 21 12:32 |
| iophk | What about Spencer. I he still there? | Jul 21 12:32 |
| iophk | It's maybe better to have them all in thesame nest. | Jul 21 12:33 |
| schestowitz | I wonder when he joined Xamarin, let's use PRISM against him... off to LinkedIn | Jul 21 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Data as being used against people, as usual... | Jul 21 12:33 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickspencer3 | Jul 21 12:33 |
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| schestowitz | Informants against themselves | Jul 21 12:34 |
| schestowitz | I have not updated linkedin data about me for 7 years | Jul 21 12:34 |
| schestowitz | "Head of Design at Xamarin" | Jul 21 12:34 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=13538460&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=r49t&locale=en_US&srchid=87948241374406474157&srchindex=1&srchtotal=837&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A87948241374406474157%2CVSRPtargetId%3A13538460%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary | Jul 21 12:34 |
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| schestowitz | Since June last year | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | "June 2012 – Present (1 year 2 months)San Francsico" | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | Desktop Experience Definition | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | Canonical Ltd. | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | March 2009 – August 2010 (1 year 6 months) | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | "I worked at Canonical as a User Experience Designer for Ubuntu (ubuntu.com). During this time, I spearheaded the Papercuts project, which resulted in over 250 user experience bugs being fixed in Ubuntu. Through this project, I introduced the Ubuntu community to user-centric thinking." | Jul 21 12:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Author & Maintainer | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | GNOME Do | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | August 2007 – March 2009 (1 year 8 months) | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | I started an open-source project named “Do” (do.davebsd.com), which produced a launcher application for Linux, with millions of installations and over 30 contributors. While I was the active leader of the project, Do was widely regarded as one of the most innovative, well executed, and beloved applications for Linux. | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | "In 2006, I worked at Google as a software engineering intern on Google Talk. I created a massively distributed system for analyzing user behavior, and learned a great deal about best practices at Google by attending tech talks and training courses." | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | He still works for this company: | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | "I recently founded Futureproof LLC (iamfutureproof.com), a research and development company that helps individuals use high-tech products in ways that promote health, happiness, and compassion. Projects to date include Awareness, a break timer for Mac and Windows; and Gadget Rules." | Jul 21 12:36 |
| schestowitz | No GNU/Linux | Jul 21 12:36 |
| msb__ | "It makes it look like a duct-taped page. Like those infamous very long, very poorly laid-out pages that people say should ring warning signs | Jul 21 12:37 |
| iophk | They are both then at Futureproof? | Jul 21 12:38 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: So now you reject my info because you don't like my webpage layout. Pretty lame. | Jul 21 12:38 |
| schestowitz | No, but you fed the troll | Jul 21 12:46 |
| schestowitz | by giving him some cookie at the top | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | and it weakens the presntation | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | you'd be easier to slag off | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | iophk: no | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Just David | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | he founded some company that ignores Linux | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | which I found funny | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | Xamarin is largely the same | Jul 21 12:47 |
| schestowitz | some of the mono products were often excluding Linux | Jul 21 12:48 |
| schestowitz | funny coming from a 'FOSS' project | Jul 21 12:48 |
| schestowitz | Miguel calls it "open core" | Jul 21 12:48 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: So, if some psychopath attacks me thousands of times, trashing my website, I should just ignore it? http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html | Jul 21 12:53 |
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| msb__ | His goal is to hurt people. Ignoring him doesn't stop him. | Jul 21 12:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-seen-through-a-syrian-lens-unknown-americans-are-provoking-civil-war-in-iraq-475889.html | Jul 21 13:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Robert Fisk: Seen through a Syrian lens, 'unknown Americans' are provoking civil war in Iraq - Robert Fisk - Commentators - The Independent .::. Size~: 154.18 KB | Jul 21 13:00 |
| schestowitz | msb__: ignoring him saves you time | Jul 21 13:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864965 | Jul 21 13:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### O'Gara and Didio Resurrection? You may remember these ladies for <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/13/138210/sco-asked-ogara-to-smear-groklaw">evil deeds as Microsoft flunkies</a> <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070619092336304">against Groklaw on SCO's behalf</a>, but Laura got her start chasing ghosts. Now there's new misogyny from an the old source and MOG has joined | Jul 21 13:04 |
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| schestowitz | Where is MOG mentioned in this context? I've searched the article... | Jul 21 13:04 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864947 | Jul 21 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @latomatemasquee@diasp.org reshared: Revenge of the mutant #vegetables? Pictures of crops 'deformed by fall-out of #Fukushima #nuclear disaster' sweep #Asia. . . but is it all just a #hoax? - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2367436/Fukushima-mutant-vegetable-images-sweep-region-years-nuclear-disaster.html | Jul 21 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by ii_try@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_73a4503b7d7d6861797d.jpg | Jul 21 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by ii_try@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_73a4503b7d7d6861797d.jpg | Jul 21 13:06 |
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| schestowitz | Hoax or not hoax, is it's DailyFail,. then it's somewhere in the real of fantasy, tabloids, and deception. So I'll wait until i see it in a decent source... | Jul 21 13:07 |
| schestowitz | *realm | Jul 21 13:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865385 | Jul 21 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ubuntuforums dot org got cracked http://osarena.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Screenshot-171.png http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=ubuntuforums.org&x=0&y=0 | Jul 21 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 13:10 |
| schestowitz | As with a lot of things ...... look for the B side on this ....... did they want the Old Style Forum - will get a better idea if they bother to bring the Old style Forum back up again ........ | Jul 21 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Seemed it was starting to die off anyway ....... so why would a hacker target it ........ have seen nothing in the News to give any reasons why anyone would want to do this ....... | Jul 21 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Maybe someone knows something different ....... | Jul 21 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Did a lot of searches last night to see if anyone was complaining or upset with the Forums ..... but nothing of real interest popped up. | Jul 21 13:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 13:10 |
| schestowitz | I heard that the Ubuntu Forums community had gone more quiet in recent years | Jul 21 13:10 |
| msb__ | I'm impatient and always use (Suse) IRC. | Jul 21 13:12 |
| msb__ | "ignoring Snit saves you time". But it also conveys to some people that I can't refute him so he's telling the truth. | Jul 21 13:14 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864656 | Jul 21 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Yesterday I saw a very libellous article portraying #snowden as #chemtrails proponent using fake quotes. Making up dirt. #nsa #libel #cia | Jul 21 13:21 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, I don't believe it. The wording was...off :(" | Jul 21 13:21 |
| schestowitz | msb__: not if you ignore him as matter of principle, only if you feed him | Jul 21 13:21 |
| schestowitz | I can curse the Queen of England | Jul 21 13:22 |
| schestowitz | She doesn't need to reply | Jul 21 13:22 |
| schestowitz | She would be wiser not to reply | Jul 21 13:22 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: The queen gets plenty of positive PR. I tell the truth, so I get chased out of nine villages. | Jul 21 13:24 |
| schestowitz | you missed the point I was trying to make | Jul 21 13:24 |
| schestowitz | If she started replying, then whenever she would stop it would be assumed she had no comeback | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz | many companies, for similar reasons, have a policy of never commenting in "rumours" | Jul 21 13:25 |
| schestowitz | iophk: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865522 | Jul 21 13:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Former #Microsoft employee spreads FUD about #gnu #linux http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-forums-hacked-1-82m-logins-email-addresses-stolen-7000018336/ Zack Whittaker at #cbs #zdnet | Jul 21 13:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Ubuntu forums hacked; 1.82M logins, email addresses stolen | ZDNet .::. Size~: 78 KB | Jul 21 13:26 |
| schestowitz | iophk: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865526 | Jul 21 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ...Sure way to distract from Ubuntu's big announcement tomorrow. Didn't know #zdnet publishes articles on a Sunday... :-) :-) | Jul 21 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865528 | Jul 21 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical’s Ubuntu Edge smartphone leaked, to be announced in the coming days http://phandroid.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-phones-video/ #ubuntu #linux #gnu | Jul 21 13:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Ubuntu for Phones revealed, will be easily compatible with most Android devices [VIDEO] .::. Size~: 30.83 KB | Jul 21 13:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/358925836864331777 | Jul 21 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 13:30 |
| schestowitz | "@schestowitz well thanks to it we know a ZiffGatesNet tech Ed who writes "unbiased" stories ab Java,works for MSFT http://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonperlow" | Jul 21 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Profile Not Found | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 16.8 KB | Jul 21 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Perlow was FOSS-hostile even before he joined Microsoft http://goo.gl/Zysfc | Jul 21 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: perlow - Google Search .::. Size~: 25.89 KB | Jul 21 13:31 |
| iophk | schestowitz: From what I gather the Ubuntu Forums are not much used any more. | Jul 21 13:32 |
| iophk | However M$ Zack is trying to use up the week's quota for Ubuntu news | Jul 21 13:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865385 | Jul 21 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ubuntuforums dot org got cracked http://osarena.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Screenshot-171.png http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=ubuntuforums.org&x=0&y=0 | Jul 21 13:37 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 13:37 |
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| schestowitz | Reading the other reports now coming out ......... | Jul 21 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Wondered when the M$ would attack it ..... | Jul 21 13:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-forums-hacked-1-82m-logins-email-addresses-stolen-7000018336/ | Jul 21 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu forums hacked; 1.82M logins, email addresses stolen | ZDNet .::. Size~: 78.51 KB | Jul 21 13:37 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VBulletin | Jul 21 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: vBulletin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 97.17 KB | Jul 21 13:37 |
| schestowitz | On 22 July 2010 the BBC reported that there was a serious flaw in vBulletin software that allows anyone to easily access the database username and password. | Jul 21 13:37 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 13:37 |
| schestowitz | iophk: there is a massive PR campaign prepared by Canoinical right now | Jul 21 13:37 |
| schestowitz | On Monday they go all Rambo with a hardware (phone) product which will be their leading product and a potential for profit | Jul 21 13:38 |
| schestowitz | Competing with FirefoxOS, Android, etc. | Jul 21 13:38 |
| iophk | Now that their site is cracked and that is in the news too, there will be more of an uphill struggle with any phone announcements | Jul 21 13:38 |
| schestowitz | And welcome Canonical as it's a GNU/Linux phone | Jul 21 13:38 |
| schestowitz | Not Dalvik or browser-oriented like FirefoxOS | Jul 21 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmObwguVmEI … | Jul 21 13:39 |
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| iophk | The N900 had a lot of fans, it was a good phone, if Canonical can pull off something as good with another Gnu/Linux phone, then they can easily get a portion ofthe smartphone market. | Jul 21 13:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vBulletin+ubuntu&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0 | Jul 21 13:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.jorgecastro.org/2013/02/28/ubuntu-forums-upgraded/ | Jul 21 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Forums upgraded! - Jorge's Stompbox .::. Size~: 11.82 KB | Jul 21 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Journalist Barrett Brown could be sentenced to 105 years in prison for journalistic activity, including posting a link to a site with scandalous information that had been obtained by a cracker from HBGary. | Jul 21 13:57 |
| schestowitz | -RMS http://stallman.org/archives/2013-may-aug.html#21_July_2013_%28Barrett_Brown_could_be_sentenced_to_105_years_in_prison_for_journalistic_activity%29 | Jul 21 13:58 |
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| iophk | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323848804578608040780519904.html | Jul 21 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Rise of the Warrior Cop - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 218.59 KB | Jul 21 13:58 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/matthew-david-stewart_n_3332915.html | Jul 21 14:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865117 | Jul 21 14:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FireFox 1.1 OS Update Now Available For Geeksphone Users http://www.muktware.com/5760/firefox-11-os-update-now-available-geeksphone-users #firefox #linux | Jul 21 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 14:17 |
| schestowitz | This document describes how future releases are made: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2013/07/19/mozillas-heartbeat-quarterly-firefox-os-releases/ It also links to a plan that has releases up to 1.4 on it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ait_RA8Il0WWdG5SbS1HNzdlYmR0Y2FXM1RlMGoxckE&usp=sharing&invite=COznr58G | Jul 21 14:17 |
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| schestowitz | So, right now, the plan it to follow up the 1.0.1 that is currently out as stable on released phone with 1.1, 1.2, etc. - I'm pretty sure 2.0 will only come when there's major changes in terms of UI or such. | Jul 21 14:17 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 14:17 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865450 | Jul 21 14:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @karthik_ak@joindiaspora.com: Stupid #gmail has messed up my inbox by putting some tabs in it. How to reverse it? | Jul 21 14:26 |
| schestowitz | quit gmail, use freedom- and privacy-preserving Free software :-) one you control, not one Google controls | Jul 21 14:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358943075743182848 | Jul 21 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | "@psael I'm not sure much of that statement is correct." | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | "Google Earth/StreetView comes from KeyHole,a CIA-funded company. They track users. Another case of corporate-run spying industrial complex." | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Which part/s are not correct? | Jul 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358944598200041473 | Jul 21 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | "I haven't researched and may be wrong. But "CIA funded" probably means CIA are a customer of theirs, like Google..." | Jul 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | The CIA's ventrue (VC) arm gave taxpayers' money to promote KeyHole and its product. See Wikipedia. | Jul 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358944783596658688 | Jul 21 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | :"and what does "track users" mean? Finally, pretty sure street view data is gathered by Google only." | Jul 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Meet #PRISM - even before that reports in the press sais FBI/CIA were using Maps/Earth logs retroactively | Jul 21 14:45 |
| schestowitz | said | Jul 21 14:45 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358947888577003521 | Jul 21 14:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 14:58 |
| schestowitz | "ok. Will read up before digging myself a hole, but with a warrant surely that's ok? Without one, not ok" | Jul 21 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Read about PRISM. They collect everything (NSA and its allies), they bypass the need for warrants this way. | Jul 21 14:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358950556225646592 | Jul 21 15:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:10 |
| schestowitz | "I know I know, but does that include specific location and map search data? If yes, do we know for sure? May have missed smthg" | Jul 21 15:10 |
| schestowitz | yes, map search data noted in recent news (tracked), not just pannign, zooming, etc. | Jul 21 15:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358951078689120259 | Jul 21 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:12 |
| schestowitz | "PS didn't realise that Google owned Keyhole Inc. Thought they just sold data to gov and private customers" | Jul 21 15:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/358951246096375809 | Jul 21 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:13 |
| schestowitz | "OLPC ~> MSFT http://www.fuseproject.com/products-77 I liked the source article, "Has One Laptop Per Child Totally Lost Its Way?"..." | Jul 21 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: fuseproject: One Laptop Per Child XO Tablet .::. Size~: 20.39 KB | Jul 21 15:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/truthdigger/status/358951553744375808 | Jul 21 15:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:14 |
| schestowitz | "Like France is beautiful everywhere the tour goes and beyond" | Jul 21 15:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/358951737530400769 | Jul 21 15:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:15 |
| schestowitz | "... http://bit.ly/15WZQKM more than Mr. Pogson's critique. "Profitable non-profit" evokes "venture philanthropy"." | Jul 21 15:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Has One Laptop Per Child Totally Lost Its Way? | Popular Science .::. Size~: 107.69 KB | Jul 21 15:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358953169163788289 | Jul 21 15:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:16 |
| schestowitz | "https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358953169163788289ok, I didn't realise. So the NSA can definitely view anyone's Google location and location history at any time?" | Jul 21 15:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:16 |
| schestowitz | That's a different thing. With Android devices/IPs/cookies it can track where you are, with Maps, where you look | Jul 21 15:16 |
| schestowitz | A fake apparently http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/angela-merkel-nude-photo-may-not-be-of-angela-merkel http://www.spiegel.de/international/baring-it-all-get-naked-with-the-germans-a-415516.html http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/09/angela-merkel-naked-april-fool-german-chancellor-aged-18-nudist-beach-_n_3043402.html | Jul 21 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "Angela Merkel Nude Photo" May Not Be Of Angela Merkel .::. Size~: 280.99 KB | Jul 21 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Baring It All: Get Naked with the Germans - SPIEGEL ONLINE .::. Size~: 41.73 KB | Jul 21 15:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Angela Merkel Naked? April Fool Or Does Snap Show German Chancellor Aged 18 At Nudist Beach With Two Other Women? .::. Size~: 236.47 KB | Jul 21 15:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexchitty/status/358957538122792962 | Jul 21 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz | "ok, will read more. Thanks!" | Jul 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Read and inform other people so that these practices come to a halt | Jul 21 15:36 |
| schestowitz | These are control mechanisms for plutocrats. | Jul 21 15:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/bbhorne/status/358938007971184640 | Jul 21 15:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:40 |
| schestowitz | "And xactly why the spying revelations have damaged U.S. foreign relations so much more than domestic impact" | Jul 21 15:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kristamonster/status/358904552432480256 | Jul 21 15:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 15:42 |
| schestowitz | "So Germany, get your shit together, because this scares the FUCK out of me." | Jul 21 15:42 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/clown-town-called-police-for-happy-birthday_n_3624409.html | Jul 21 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Clown Town Children's Center Called The Police On U.K. Dad For Singing Happy Birthday .::. Size~: 282.2 KB | Jul 21 16:15 |
| *Cirrus_Minor (~Cirrus_Mi@unaffiliated/cirrus-minor/x-6868843) has joined #techrights | Jul 21 16:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865642 | Jul 21 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: 6,500 of these malfunctioning cashzone ATM machines that charge you £1.80 to get your money out proliferate across London. Cashzone are nasty, greedy and fast taking over the ATM business in the UK thanks to their Tory shareholders and lobbying cronies. I feel deep joy every time I see one of their nasty mugging machines malfunction... #ATM #Mugging #Malfunctioning #Privateers #Cashzone #Tory #Skulldu | Jul 21 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by therealgaryhill@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_a2548371eeafb788deeb.JPG | Jul 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | So where are the Police to charge it with littering ...... not a consistent system and no one cares anymore ........ | Jul 21 16:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Cashzone machine malfunctions on Vimeo .::. Size~: 36.42 KB | Jul 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | We get taken over by machines and we do not even begin to realise that they have more rights than we do ......... | Jul 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | ;) | Jul 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Banks can spread litter, they control the police | Jul 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865722+ | Jul 21 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Spokesman Accidentally Admits that the Government Is Spying On Virtually All Americans http://www.globalresearch.ca/nsa-spokesman-accidentally-admits-that-the-government-is-spying-on-virtually-all-americans/5343428 everyone a suspect. | Jul 21 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: NSA Spokesman Accidentally Admits that the Government Is Spying On Virtually All Americans | Global Research .::. Size~: 84.79 KB | Jul 21 16:23 |
| schestowitz | "Say, wasn't emails that got petraeus booted.. "Kelley allegedly began receiving harassing emails, sent anonymously, in May accusing her of inappropriate flirting with Petraeus. Concerned about the tone of the messages, she sought help from a friend in the FBI." I wonder, who could have had the foresight and skill necessary to instigate a specific person to drop a four star general at the top of the CIA? could it be...the NSATAN?!?! ( | Jul 21 16:23 |
| schestowitz | lol) http://www.slate.com/blogs/theslatest/2012/11/13/davidpetraeuspaulabroadwelljillkelleyalistofwhoswhointhe_petraeus.html" | Jul 21 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Page Not Found (404) - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 31.44 KB | Jul 21 16:23 |
| iophk | http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20130718/COLUMNIST/130719612/2256/NEWS | Jul 21 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lyons: Police raid felt like home invasion | HeraldTribune.com .::. Size~: 65.12 KB | Jul 21 16:38 |
| iophk | http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Unarmed-man-shot-16-times-files-20-million-suit-against-Dept-of-Corrections-214998791.html | Jul 21 16:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unarmed man shot 16 times files $20 million suit against DOC | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News .::. Size~: 173.45 KB | Jul 21 16:41 |
| iophk | http://business.time.com/2013/05/14/the-irs-was-wrong-but-many-political-groups-should-not-be-tax-exempt/ | Jul 21 16:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The IRS Was Wrong — But Many Political Groups Should Not Be Tax-Exempt | TIME.com .::. Size~: 84.31 KB | Jul 21 16:44 |
| iophk | http://business.time.com/2013/07/11/when-retailer-asks-can-i-have-your-zip-code-just-say-no/ | Jul 21 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Next Time a Retailer Asks for Your ZIP Code, Just Say No | TIME.com .::. Size~: 110.3 KB | Jul 21 16:46 |
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| iophk | more militarization of police : "any person who has every worn a uniform of any color or any police organization or military branch, and the family members who have ever lost a loved one serving in the line of duty." | Jul 21 16:56 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-new-arrest-photos_n_3619835.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular | Jul 21 16:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Arrest PHOTOS: New Pictures Emerge From Boston Bombing Suspect Manhunt (UPDATE) .::. Size~: 304.89 KB | Jul 21 16:56 |
| iophk | trying to lump them together with the military instead of identifying them as civilian. | Jul 21 16:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865969 | Jul 21 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It seems like #identica took/paid a massive toll, traffic-wise, since abandoning #statusnet http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/identi.ca#trafficstats | Jul 21 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Speaking of which, are you going to be using your #identica account again? | Jul 21 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: identi.ca#trafficstats - Information from Alexa Internet .::. Size~: 29.9 KB | Jul 21 17:15 |
| schestowitz | If you're looking for something to push into a #pumpio account, brdcst.it supports pumpio. I'm not sure where your crossposting starts from but, maybe it'll help. | Jul 21 17:15 |
| schestowitz | If you need a brdcst invite, let me know as I have a few. ;) | Jul 21 17:15 |
| schestowitz | "Also, identi.ca traffic looks like it started declining once registration was closed. I'd say the bulk of the "lost" traffic was potential spammers being unable to open new accounts. ;)" | Jul 21 17:15 |
| schestowitz | "I still cant log onto my identi.ca account, bug report has been submitted several emails and dents from various users have not even got a response. I'm not sure that I'll go back to identi.ca after this." | Jul 21 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | What we've really had over the last (nearly) 12 years is a sort of soft martial law. | Jul 21 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | The Boston incident was an excuse for a gazillion dollar military parade. | Jul 21 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | And they topped it off by telling people to stay indoors, even though there was no legal basis for that order. | Jul 21 17:21 |
| schestowitz | "Kevie, this was a very difficult and complicated migration. If you care at all, you need to be understanding." | Jul 21 17:24 |
| schestowitz | I've asked Evan 7 times for my data which he said he'd email me to create a statusnet instance and import into it. Evan is ignoring my emails. | Jul 21 17:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864965 | Jul 21 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### O'Gara and Didio Resurrection? You may remember these ladies for <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/13/138210/sco-asked-ogara-to-smear-groklaw">evil deeds as Microsoft flunkies</a> <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070619092336304">against Groklaw on SCO's behalf</a>, but Laura got her start chasing ghosts. Now there's new misogyny from an the old source and MOG has joined | Jul 21 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | "MOG is listed as an author on one of the recent authors. I'm really not sure it's the same MOG, but that's the name." | Jul 21 17:25 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Rita interviews Amityville Horror journalist Laura Didio - The Time Warriors .::. Size~: 63.92 KB | Jul 21 17:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Page Not Found | Ulitzer.com .::. Size~: 2.55 KB | Jul 21 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | <TechrightsBot-tr> -> Title: Amityville Horror: Horror or Hoax? - ABC News .::. Size~: 80.37 KB | Jul 21 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | GET OUT!!!! | Jul 21 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | GTFO!!!! | Jul 21 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | SRSLY!!! | Jul 21 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | The power of Christ compels you! | Jul 21 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | HAHAHA! N00B! | Jul 21 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | I always liked working in the frozen food department at Walmart during the summer. If I got too hot (they keep the air conditioning off at night) and started sweating, I usually just rubbed a bag of frozen vegetables or ice cream containers across my forehead. | Jul 21 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Sure that might sound gross, but it wasn't me that was going to be eating it. | Jul 21 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it was, it would be my own sweat on the container. | Jul 21 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | That really was a miserable place. | Jul 21 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's be the middle of August and 80 degrees in the store because they're so damned cheap. | Jul 21 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | *It'd | Jul 21 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | I mean hot to the point where it makes you physically ill after a while. | Jul 21 17:42 |
| *DaemonFC could probably live in a freezer, hates the heat. | Jul 21 17:43 | |
| DaemonFC | msb__, How can you stand it? | Jul 21 17:43 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/fact-raids-hit-release-groups-and-torrent-site-admin-130721/ | Jul 21 17:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FACT Raids Hit Release Groups and Torrent Site Admin | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 63.07 KB | Jul 21 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I noticed that an investment website was talking about Gain laundry detergent. | Jul 21 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | They said the brand has a "strong ethnic appeal". | Jul 21 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that was kind of racist, maybe even offensive. | Jul 21 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | I just got a picture in my mind of some guy at P&G shouting "We've got a scent that'll make all the ******s, *****s, and *****s pay $15 for laundry detergent!"... | Jul 21 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I just like it because it makes all my stuff smell like pina coladas. | Jul 21 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny that Bank of America is sponsoring videos on how to be frugal. | Jul 21 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | More of your money left for those pirates to siphon off with their fees.... | Jul 21 17:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nobody_special1/status/358995747888300033 | Jul 21 18:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 18:09 |
| schestowitz | "The US Govt is corrupt to the core; gov't believes it is OK to target and kill US citizens without trial. All shud be alarmed" | Jul 21 18:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Erkan_Yilmaz/status/358991218585239553 | Jul 21 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | :"don't bother about 'em come to where people miss you: http://quitter.se/conversation/1887500 …" | Jul 21 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Konversationer - Quitter .::. Size~: 15.79 KB | Jul 21 18:12 |
| schestowitz | First I want to get all my data out of identica statunet (5 accounts) | Jul 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865969 | Jul 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Kevie, I know Evan was working on it a few days ago. He's currently in the US for a wedding so I imagine that things on that front will be slowed down. | Jul 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I know it's frustrating but, hang in there man! ;) | Jul 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It seems like #identica took/paid a massive toll, traffic-wise, since abandoning #statusnet http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/identi.ca#trafficstats | Jul 21 18:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: identi.ca#trafficstats - Information from Alexa Internet .::. Size~: 29.91 KB | Jul 21 18:25 |
| schestowitz | "@JanKusanagi the main issue is that emails are not being acknowledged, even a stock "understand your problem....very busy....will look into when I get the time" would be better than nothing" | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah, regarding emails, I really think he could (have used|use) a second person for some of this. :/" | Jul 21 18:26 |
| iophk | No ticketing system there? | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Kevie, that stock response still requieres reading the whole thing. Someone who receives LOTS of e-mail can't do that every day while travelling and taking care of a million thing. | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | As I said, if you care at all, you need to be understanding. | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | iophk: there is one | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | in github | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | not all that active | Jul 21 18:26 |
| schestowitz | I am waiting to see if I can restore a feed in this channel | Jul 21 18:27 |
| schestowitz | I guess I could do so via twitter | Jul 21 18:27 |
| iophk | All incoming mail regarding bugs should end up in the ticketing system | Jul 21 18:27 |
| *schestowitz checks something | Jul 21 18:27 | |
| iophk | Using personal or work acounts without one went out by the mid-1990's | Jul 21 18:27 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2864965 | Jul 21 18:27 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, it's her but it might just be a news feed item. See, http://web2.sys-con.com/node/2366924 " | Jul 21 18:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### O'Gara and Didio Resurrection? You may remember these ladies for <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/13/138210/sco-asked-ogara-to-smear-groklaw">evil deeds as Microsoft flunkies</a> <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070619092336304">against Groklaw on SCO's behalf</a>, but Laura got her start chasing ghosts. Now there's new misogyny from an the old source and MOG has joined | Jul 21 18:27 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Real-Life American Horror Stories Possess "A HAUNTING," Resurrecting On Destination America This October | Web 2.0 Journal .::. Size~: 112.24 KB | Jul 21 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2865450 | Jul 21 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @karthik_ak@joindiaspora.com: Stupid #gmail has messed up my inbox by putting some tabs in it. How to reverse it? | Jul 21 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "yaaa. it costs. I am a miser. I used my own mail, then my credit card faltered and the server guys threw me off." | Jul 21 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Email hosting is $1 a month or less | Jul 21 18:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/NoBalas/status/359001047685013504 | Jul 21 18:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz | ""@schestowitz Uncle Sam wants YOU... in prison...#SNOWDEN.." / pic.twitter.com/v9xptjnaZI" | Jul 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Ha! | Jul 21 18:29 |
| schestowitz | http://code.google.com/p/twitterircbot/ | Jul 21 18:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: twitterircbot - Twitter IRC Bot - Google Project Hosting .::. Size~: 10.03 KB | Jul 21 18:31 |
| schestowitz | not sure if this still works after the API change | Jul 21 18:31 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Jul 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz | "# the bot will also send a twitter update on topic change. " | Jul 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Wrong thing | Jul 21 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Toby wrotr one, but it runs in another channel of ours | Jul 21 18:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866159 | Jul 21 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jaywink@iliketoast.net: https://twitter.com/RichardWest/status/358993810287624192 #ubuntu #linux | Jul 21 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Someone who thinks Linux is "hard" | Jul 21 18:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866307 | Jul 21 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 21 18:49 |
| schestowitz | won't work. I researched this field, it's not accurate enough to tell apart more than a few dozen people | Jul 21 18:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Huffington Post: Facial Recognition Systems Turn Your Face Into Your Credit Card, PIN,Password: http://t.co/AGaP3BucqJ #WTF #YAN | Jul 21 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Introduction] UNIQUL - Machine inspired by Magic TM - YouTube .::. Size~: 103.27 KB | Jul 21 18:50 |
| schestowitz | — Anonymous (@YourAnonNews) July 21, 2013 | Jul 21 18:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2862674 | Jul 21 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Techrights Needs Readers’ Support http://techrights.org/2013/07/20/readers-support/ #Techrights | Jul 21 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | The Independent does this too, don't they? National Geographic also springs to mind. I think people are paying for the paper or research to be funded more than they are paying for a mass of pulp they can't possibly read everyday. | Jul 21 18:52 |
| schestowitz | One spiff could be an email alert system. This would be reserved for really big news, sort of like the paperboy crying "Extra Edition" in the past. | Jul 21 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | I'll look into the options. For now, hosting costs are the major overhead. :-) | Jul 21 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | I just hope they don't try to pass it off like they have other things as a perfect enough method to put someone in jail over. | Jul 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Reply or view JMnemonic's post > | Jul 21 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866525 | Jul 21 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The most secure prison is the one where iron bars are made out of fear." -Maher Arar | Jul 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866535 | Jul 21 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Where money goes http://media.cagle.com/16/2013/07/19/134837_600.jpg | Jul 21 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866551 | Jul 21 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Razor & LXDE-Qt Desktop Projects To Merge http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxNjA #lxde #razor | Jul 21 19:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866564 | Jul 21 19:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Btrfs Mount Option Performance Tuning On Linux 3.11 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_btrfs_311&num=1 #btrfs #linux #kernel | Jul 21 19:57 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "July 22, written as 22/7 in Europe, has been chosen as π approximation day" http://ageinghacker.net/blog/posts/13/ tomorrow... | Jul 21 19:57 |
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| msb__ | DaemonFC: "msb__, How can you stand it?" I have a good two-hose air-conditioner and fans. | Jul 21 20:13 |
| msb__ | The AC condensate evaporator has long since been clogged and was designed not to be reparable so I'd have to spend another $500 for a new one. | Jul 21 20:15 |
| msb__ | But I have it draining into a bowl with a submersible pump leading to a 2.5 gal bottle. I'm a heck of an engineer. | Jul 21 20:16 |
| msb__ | Anyone who says pi != 22/7 is an abomination before God. I hope you all realize that! | Jul 21 20:18 |
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| MinceR | where exactly is "before" a nonexistent entity? | Jul 21 20:25 |
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| msb__ | I should have a level switch on the bowl, but since I have to get up and walk around anyhow I just run a script that repeatedly sounds Red Alert every hour or so. http://cosmicpenguin.com/audio/alert1.wav | Jul 21 20:27 |
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| msb__ | mplayer is _so_ versatile! | Jul 21 20:28 |
| msb__ | "where exactly is "before" a nonexistent entity?" Where you're less likely to experience its gaseous effluvia. | Jul 21 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866574 | Jul 21 20:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now that #SIM is cracked, remember that phones can be fully modified remotely to film, listen, etc. http://techrights.org/2013/07/19/techbytes-episode-84/ | Jul 21 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | "I'm afraid it's even worse than that. My Samsung Phone does not have a SIM card at all, but it can still make "Emergency Calls". Does this mean that it can be identified and listened to anyway? I think it does, in the same way wifi radios have unique identifying numbers. Once identity is established on the device by Google sign in, the phone radio can be linked to you, even if you don't ever jump through telco hoops. If "Emergency | Jul 21 20:35 |
| schestowitz | Calls" can be placed, the radio is functioning and can be used against you." | Jul 21 20:35 |
| msb__ | "Everyone know Roy is an anti-Linux loon. Right? LOL!" -- Snit | Jul 21 20:36 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Remember that before you have him on your show again. | Jul 21 20:37 |
| MinceR | msb__: oh no, then i'm an abomination everywhere | Jul 21 20:37 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 21 20:37 |
| msb__ | U.S. motto is, lots of bombs in _other_ nations. | Jul 21 20:38 |
| MinceR | i see what you did there | Jul 21 20:38 |
| fewt | abominations, where? | Jul 21 20:38 |
| msb__ | Pretty much everywhere, according to the bibble. | Jul 21 20:39 |
| fewt | orite | Jul 21 20:39 |
| schestowitz | msb__: then reconstruction | Jul 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | with US contractors | Jul 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | issue some national debt | Jul 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | another trillion or two in national debt | Jul 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | money passed to private hands to rebuild after bombing by US Army | Jul 21 20:42 |
| msb__ | You got it! | Jul 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | And the debt will be enslaving the US population for generations to come | Jul 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Perfect deal | Jul 21 20:42 |
| schestowitz | See http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/07/missing-money.html | Jul 21 20:43 |
| schestowitz | It's new | Jul 21 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | and quite amusing | Jul 21 20:43 |
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| msb__ | And let's not forget the millions of people murdered. Some of our leaders are said to be Satan-worshippers. So they want to feed him with souls. | Jul 21 20:44 |
| msb__ | They've been promised air-conditioning in Hell. | Jul 21 20:46 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/359036026825605120 | Jul 21 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 20:48 |
| schestowitz | "I actually do like this outcome." | Jul 21 20:48 |
| schestowitz | msb__: seen the image? | Jul 21 20:48 |
| schestowitz | msb__: it's war | Jul 21 20:48 |
| schestowitz | so we're conditioned not to label it "murder" | Jul 21 20:48 |
| schestowitz | Murder is ragic | Jul 21 20:48 |
| schestowitz | War is a "games" | Jul 21 20:48 |
| msb__ | The number of people murdered by the US govt using 9-11 as an excuse in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc probably now exceeds 2,500,000, the population of Philadelphia when I grew up there. | Jul 21 20:48 |
| schestowitz | *tragic * game | Jul 21 20:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Erkan_Yilmaz/status/359037096100495361 | Jul 21 20:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 21 20:49 |
| schestowitz | "keep on waiting ;-) anyways @McScx says: I think many !statusnet (& #identica) users are missing his postings" | Jul 21 20:49 |
| schestowitz | I am still waiting for identica clarity. | Jul 21 20:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866589 | Jul 21 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #torontopigsave do what they can to ease the suffering of #pigs confined in containers without ventilation on route to being slaughtered. http://youtu.be/1VRZ08sblVw #vegan #animals #cruelty | Jul 21 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | How difficult would it be to have something designed into the trailer to give them water on the journey ...... | Jul 21 20:51 |
| schestowitz | No animal needs to suffer when its avoidable ..... even if they are going to be slaughtered ........ suffering of anything should be something we all understand and try to avoid. | Jul 21 20:51 |
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| schestowitz | My wife found it agonising to watch. We're thinking about going vegan now... | Jul 21 20:53 |
| msb__ | Early in the invasion of, I think, Afghanistan, the US army imprisoned captured soldiers (men who were defending their country against the US invasion and mass murder) and looked a bunch of them in cargo containers with no water in the broiling heat and left them there for days. | Jul 21 20:55 |
| msb__ | Satan was very pleased! | Jul 21 20:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866574 | Jul 21 20:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now that #SIM is cracked, remember that phones can be fully modified remotely to film, listen, etc. http://techrights.org/2013/07/19/techbytes-episode-84/ | Jul 21 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | Jan told me what the number is and I looked it up in Wikipedia. Yep, your phone will always be a bug. | Jul 21 20:56 |
| schestowitz | A target for lawful interception (wiretapping) can be specified by its IMEI number as well as IMSI and MSISDN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InternationalMobileStationEquipmentIdentity | Jul 21 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | So that, and the non free radio control computer, allows location tracking and audio recording without the phone being any value as a phone to the user. As usual, Stallman is right. | Jul 21 20:56 |
| msb__ | looked -> locked | Jul 21 20:56 |
| schestowitz | https://plus.google.com/u/0/113579520393333767984/posts/HSFpNfw3Py6 | Jul 21 20:56 |
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| msb__ | Then there were the "Christians" who murdered millions of Goddess worshippers in Europe, mostly women. Some they did by suspending them by their wrists over a fire, on a rope that passed over a pulley. | Jul 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Phones are so much risk for so little gain. But a lot of other forms of communication, except face-to0-face, are bad for other reasons. | Jul 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz | msb__: yes, but that was a long time ago, we can do better now because we have better info | Jul 21 20:59 |
| schestowitz | and stil we dail to stop some wars | Jul 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | like Libya... | Jul 21 21:00 |
| msb__ | When the woman began losing consciousness due to the unimaginable pain, the "Christians" would raise her up so she wouldn't pass out. And then lower her again, to make the torture last as long as possible. | Jul 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Iran might be next, after August when the CIA-trained people infiltrate Syria | Jul 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | msb__ obamaism | Jul 21 21:00 |
| schestowitz | public displays of torture | Jul 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | like hanging in Iran | Jul 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | to scare the population | Jul 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | you make stories of hellfire in Hell | Jul 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | and then you need to show some Hell on Earth | Jul 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | to scare people | Jul 21 21:01 |
| schestowitz | that's what Obama is doing to truth-tellers now | Jul 21 21:01 |
| msb__ | Libya was an excellent country under Gaddafi until the US destroyed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek | Jul 21 21:04 |
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| msb__ | It had an egalitarian economic system and an interest-free bank. The US will not allow these to exist. | Jul 21 21:05 |
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| msb__ | The first thing the US did after conquering Libya and murdering Gaddafi was to put in a Rothschild bank. | Jul 21 21:07 |
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| msb__ | Al-Qaeda gunmen under US control have already invaded Syria. | Jul 21 21:10 |
| msb__ | Obamaism=Bushism=Clintonism. They all did the same thing. Corporatism ("Fascism is Corporatism" -- Mussolini) | Jul 21 21:12 |
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| MinceR | 220709 < schestowitz> msb__: yes, but that was a long time ago, we can do better now because we have better info | Jul 21 21:21 |
| MinceR | we can. | Jul 21 21:21 |
| MinceR | but they refuse to. | Jul 21 21:21 |
| msb__ | The JCI religions, govt, corporate media, and educational systems all combine to spew out the flood of propaganda -- the Matrix -- that keeps people unaware of their slavery. Works much better than soldiers with machine guns. | Jul 21 21:24 |
| msb__ | But when enough people are starving and homeless here, the gov't will do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y_j2Dbf2a8I | Jul 21 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/metacode/status/359049895606362112 | Jul 21 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | "Gates Foundation to Chronicle of Higher Education: Our Critics are Idiots http://thesunbreak.com/2013/07/16/gates-foundation-to-chronicle-of-higher-education-our-critics-are-idiots/ … by Michael van Baker (@schestowitz)" | Jul 21 21:46 |
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| schestowitz | itweted | Jul 21 21:48 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### O'Gara and Didio Resurrection? You may remember these ladies for <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/13/138210/sco-asked-ogara-to-smear-groklaw">evil deeds as Microsoft flunkies</a> <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070619092336304">against Groklaw on SCO's behalf</a>, but Laura got her start chasing ghosts. Now there's new misogyny from an the old source and MOG has joined | Jul 21 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 22:06 |
| schestowitz | That link did not make it into this article for some reason. | Jul 21 22:06 |
| schestowitz | I wrote this last night when I bumped into the conjuring review. I had my poison ladies confused at the start and found material with MOG and Amityville Horror, but not enough and wondered if MOG was doing a reputation cleanse somehow. That's when I started looking through my bookmarks and corrected my mistake. Didio did have her Wikipedia page cleansed, as you can see from the link where the page is purged with lots of trolling and | Jul 21 22:06 |
| schestowitz | distraction. That MOG may have joined the ghost busting fun was too good not to pass on. | Jul 21 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Now I see I may have been hasty. | Jul 21 22:06 |
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| schestowitz | I checked the Wikipedia article before and I don't think it was covering the ghost nonsense. Maybe I checked too late, ~2 years ago.. | Jul 21 22:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2866578 | Jul 21 22:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### ‘US Constitution overtaken by military' Alfred Lambremont Webre http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/20/314744/us-constitution-overtaken-by-military/ #video #alfredlambremontwebre #webre #interview #bradleymanning #manning #us #constitution #military #court-martial #police-state #lawless #rogue | Jul 21 22:08 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | So what they are trying to say - is he took the data and he wanted it to reach the hands of Osama Bin Laden ....... | Jul 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | The first people he went to was the New York Times ...... | Jul 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | That theory seems to fall flat on its face ......... as they would not have had direct contact with Osama Bin Laden . | Jul 21 22:09 |
| schestowitz | Then to go to Wikileaks which is set up to help whistleblowers again no direct contact with Osama Bin Laden ........ | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | This too falls flat on its face ....... as wikileaks also checked what it was giving out at the time and from what I can remember the data given out had been vetted as well as censored to some degree to stop anyone getting harmed from this information. | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | How do you give information to the Enemy so that they could attack you directly from that information ............ as this is what they seem to be trying to prove ......... | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Would you not send it straight to a contact in a opposing army ( say they had one ) - then if you were meant to be treat as a spy or agent for the other side you could be deemed to have given said information to the enemy . | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Prove that Osama Bin Laden did set up the bombing of the Twin Towers for sure | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | The documentation and the phone calls Bin Laden made to all his associates should have been found and disclosed by now . | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | So maybe after they have had this trial ..... or during it ...... they can prove through the documentation who Bin Laden conversed with to set the whole 9/11 job up - that seems to get skipped over ....... | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | They got documentation at the place where Bin Laden was hiding out. | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | This being in Pakistan ....... so who actually passed over the paperwork was it the CIA - as it would need printing out and sending by mail you would expect ( all traceable ) the paper should be analyzed to find out which country it came from. | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | That then would give some indication that we can trust the CIA in this ...... ( because at the moment it seems not to ring TRUE in any event where someone passed something to the enemy ) | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Would they need to go through a party they feel is on their side the New York Times ........ | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Seems a tad odd to me ....... | Jul 21 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bin+laden+found+in+pakistan&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0 | Jul 21 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | How hard did they look ....... to work out how the main criminal was involved and his contacts ......... | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | If they had spent as much time on a case to work out who all the main contacts were to Bin Laden - we would get a better picture of who set it all up in the first place ...... and how he got into a luxury compound in Pakistan .... with apparently no one knowing. | Jul 21 22:10 |
| schestowitz | Now if it had been Snowden for instance ....... he would be stuck in a airport lounge somewhere ......... but Bin Laden ..... how many Flights did he make to get where he ended up ........ and which airports did he go through. | Jul 21 22:10 |
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