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DaemonFChttp://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-7-2010/the-big-bank-theoryJul 24 03:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Big Bank Theory - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 12/07/10 - Video Clip | Comedy Central .::. Size~: 74.94 KBJul 24 03:25
DaemonFClolJul 24 03:25
DaemonFChmmm, seems to be broken there, but it works here...Jul 24 03:26
DaemonFChttp://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-ben-bernanke-2010-12Jul 24 03:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Watch Jon Stewart's Takedown Of Ben Bernanke's 'Not Printing Money' Claims - Business Insider .::. Size~: 157.18 KBJul 24 03:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2872694Jul 24 07:30
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google Play Store serves up more than 50 billion downloads http://androidandme.com/2013/07/applications/google-play-store-serves-up-more-than-50-billion-downloads/ including updates? #androidJul 24 07:30
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schestowitz"Yes! :D"Jul 24 07:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/359339861355921408Jul 24 08:08
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schestowitz" case law not made by judges without a law degree?"Jul 24 08:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/AntiSoftwarePat/status/359290116541394944Jul 24 08:08
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schestowitz"Boken patent system is 1 of the major causes of economic stagnation"Jul 24 08:09
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SheriLHerman/status/359938043391655936Jul 24 08:28
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schestowitz"Why does the CIA exist? Only to conduct inside ops and commit MURDER?"Jul 24 08:28
schestowitzTo suck in taxpayers' money and heighten threats, e.g. by summoning blowbackJul 24 08:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SheriLHerman/status/359938315673280514Jul 24 08:29
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schestowitz"Maybe its time the CIA was DEFUNDED I don't want all this KILLING IN MY NAME!"Jul 24 08:29
schestowitzThey might have to kill you for suggesting it. The superorganism recognises threats to itself.Jul 24 08:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SheriLHerman/status/359938813386174465Jul 24 08:31
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schestowitz"Let Them Try"Jul 24 08:31
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_TihqEqBpUJul 24 08:53
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DaemonFCI had one of those for dinner.Jul 24 08:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PMCrunk/status/359944258440015872Jul 24 09:07
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schestowitz"they tap everything, interesting enough i learned about this about 10 years ago from Television, there was a show about it."Jul 24 09:07
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DaemonFCschestowitz, In the last ten years.....Jul 24 09:26
DaemonFCThe average price of essentials has gone up by more than half.Jul 24 09:27
DaemonFCand my income has been reduced by about a thirdJul 24 09:27
DaemonFC"Scream all you want. Nobody will hear you."Jul 24 09:27
DaemonFCYou know?Jul 24 09:27
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DaemonFCThe official news is about how things are getting better, but they're not.Jul 24 09:29
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DaemonFCEvery year, I have to figure out something else to get rid of so I can still afford to live.Jul 24 09:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2873392Jul 24 09:31
TechrightsBot-tr@lxle@ilikefreedom.org: Recently Richard Stallman was asked this question “What are your opinions about the companies that work with Free Software, notably Red Hat and Canonical, and are, every time, distancing themselves more and more from the ideals of Free Software and making small proprietary walled gardens in their so-called ‘ecosystems’ (which, of course, harm the whole GNU/Linux ‘ecosystem’ and community). Specifically, CanoJul 24 09:31
schestowitz"Jul 24 09:31
schestowitzThe examples within the question describe a false premise and do damage to the actual question at hand. Having your own init system, package format, and/or graphics manager doesn't mean that you're harming free software. Last I checked, APT, dpkg, etc were free software. In fact, APT is one of the oldest package managers on Linux, which is fitting as Debian is one of the oldest distributions.Jul 24 09:31
schestowitzFree (as in speech) Software is there to be used, viewed, and edited by whomever has a copy of the software. Dr. Stallman has even said that he has no problem with people selling their software, he has a problem (and always has) with software and software developers that infringes on the core freedoms to view the source code, edit the source code (contributions, customization, etc), and redistribute the source code.Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzIf RedHat (for example) users don't like Plymouth, they don't have to use it, they can uninstall it and place whatever init system they want on it because RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora are still just Linux under the hood. Sure, it takes time, but it can be done and there are sites all over the internet that explain how to create custom packages and repos for all sorts of Linux distros, so after the initial investment of time to customize Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzyour distro, you can rest assured that your custom package will always remain the default. That's in keeping with the core freedoms that Free Software is about and Dr. Stallman would agree (as he's alluded to in several interviews over the years).Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzIf developers didn't break away from the mold every once in a while and create something that they felt was an improvement on an older piece of software that performed some task or solved some problem, we wouldn't have the plethora of choices in Free Software that we do today. Imagine if when Debian came out nobody said "I think I can make a distro better suited to X needs", we wouldn't have RedHat/CentOS/Fedora, Gentoo, Arch, Funtoo, Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzSlackware, Ubuntu, SuSE/OpenSuSE/Novell, Sabayon, Mint, etc.Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzPersonally, I think people in Free (as in speech) Software need to spend more time taking a step back and thinking about what they are actually saying. Free Software is all about choice and the ability to have the power over your system (even if complex) to customize that system to your personal needs. If Free Software advocates spent slightly less time being activists and more time developing and/or contributing to (great) Free Jul 24 09:32
schestowitzSoftware, the entire movement would have much sharper teeth than it has today. I mean, hell, Free Software inspired tons of us to become developers in the first place. Let's not lose that inspiration and motivation. You can be an activist in Free Software all you want, but if you're not developing anything, what are people going to use when you've changed their minds?Jul 24 09:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nickhencher/status/359954648481792002Jul 24 09:36
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schestowitz" trust you always check text on photos... RT @schestowitz: Bad angle http://buff.ly/167FYVv"Jul 24 09:36
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nj3maYou speak truth Doc!Jul 24 09:51
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nj3maOften, the whole point of Free Software is lost on it's very proponents.Jul 24 09:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2872801Jul 24 10:03
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "the world of journalism has contracted in nasty ways in recent years," http://ostatic.com/blog/sadly-the-h-goes-silent#buzzJul 24 10:03
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schestowitz"Warren Buffett to note that without journalism, bad people will find it much easier to get away with bad things What's he planning now?"Jul 24 10:03
schestowitzPlutocrats need to lie to keep their power.Jul 24 10:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2872635Jul 24 10:04
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Once upon a time there were many desktop distros of GNU and Linux competing and now it's phone platforms based on Linux, sometimes GNU/JavaJul 24 10:04
schestowitz"If you meant Android, it would be more accurately Busybox/Java/Linux instead of GNU/Java. Those guys at the big G got sure to avoid copyleft almost altogether, by using Busybox instead of GNU."Jul 24 10:05
schestowitz"Jul 24 10:05
schestowitzI have been told that Android has it's own userland to avoid copyleft but I'm not really familiar with it. Did they really use Bussybox? It's not a bad choice but it is GPL and they usually mean it,Jul 24 10:05
schestowitzhttp://www.busybox.net/shame.htmlJul 24 10:05
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schestowitz"Jul 24 10:05
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iophkThe Ubuntu Edge got good news coverage https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=ubuntu&gbv=1&sei=4ZPvUfmPCuXO4QTl6oE4Jul 24 10:31
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iophkBut still manages to stay out of Google's news indexJul 24 10:31
iophkhttps://www.google.com/news/section?pz=1&js=0&cf=all&ned=us&topic=tcJul 24 10:31
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DaemonFCI think Walmart changed their peanut butter supplier.Jul 24 10:43
DaemonFCIt's gross now.Jul 24 10:43
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2872663Jul 24 10:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Crimes of "possession" can render, overnight, many law-abiding people "criminals". The assumption is that possession leads to *action*.Jul 24 10:52
schestowitz"Except for firearms. No one will bother you for having a killing machine."Jul 24 10:52
schestowitzIf you have a loaded pistol in one pocket and a plant in another you're in trouble. And now because of the pistol. :-)Jul 24 10:52
schestowitziophk: yes, it did wellJul 24 10:53
schestowitziophk: my wife wants oneJul 24 10:53
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2874790Jul 24 10:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does the NSA's SE Linux code need a review?  http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/60838-does-the-nsas-se-linux-code-need-a-review rules are written in cryptic ways. #nsaJul 24 10:54
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schestowitz"Anything they've touched needs a thorough code review. I'm sure they've popped a back door or two in there for good measure."Jul 24 10:54
schestowitzPeople need to look for cyrptic code where back doors (vulns) could have been put; it would not be made obviousJul 24 10:54
DaemonFC ZOMG PINK PONIES says:Jul 24 10:58
DaemonFCOh well. I've made no huge secret that I'm just trying to live and die.Jul 24 10:58
DaemonFCI think it's fair to say that I agree with George Carlin's "This country is basically finished." comment.Jul 24 10:58
DaemonFCI also don't think the world itself is too far behind.Jul 24 10:58
DaemonFCSome politicians (the same ones that got us into this mess, no less) say "What we're doing to our children is criminal!". Some talk about debt, others about the environment, but really what I always come back with when I hear that is. "No, what these other people are doing to their children is criminal. I have no stake in this. Good luck America, you're on your own.".Jul 24 10:58
DaemonFC40 years, 50 tops, and I'll clock out, and you can explain the smoldering smoking shell of a planet, $60 trillion of debt, and the social safety net that's in flames, that YOU have left YOUR kids with.Jul 24 10:58
DaemonFCI'm just hoping that I get out before the whole thing collapses. It's not looking like I will. They're already telling me I have to wait until I'm 69 to retire. My dad gets to go at 65. His dad went at 62. Jul 24 10:59
DaemonFC ZOMG PINK PONIES says:Jul 24 11:00
DaemonFCAlso, I'm gay, but that's another issue entirely.Jul 24 11:00
DaemonFCRichard Stallman made some excellent points about why he didn't have kids. Among them was that he's always tried to live cheaply, like a student, and having kids sends a wrecking ball right through that. He said that he didn't want to end up being compelled, like so many men, to work long hours to pay child support on kids he could hardly see.Jul 24 11:00
DaemonFCA lot of men figure this one out after the woman has left them, and the state is docking their paycheck for $400-$500 a month or more, and they never even get to see their kids. Ouch. Jul 24 11:00
DaemonFC ZOMG PINK PONIES says: Keep your **** in your pants and throw that $400-500 a month into a retirement account. Jul 24 11:01
DaemonFC:)Jul 24 11:02
schestowitzSE Android is aimed at companies and organizations that need to implement strict access-control policies similar to those mandated by the U.S. Department of Defense.Jul 24 11:02
schestowitz"http://www.pcworld.com/article/248275/nsa_releases_a_securityenhanced_version_of_android.html"Jul 24 11:02
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schestowitzBut DOD encourages SPYING Jul 24 11:02
schestowitzNot privacyJul 24 11:02
DaemonFCI don't see any reason why SEAndroid shouldn't be used, as long as it is Free Software.Jul 24 11:03
DaemonFCWe use SELinux don't we? It's Free, so we don't have to trust that the NSA didn't bury something nasty in it that nobody knows about.Jul 24 11:03
DaemonFCEconomists are freaking out that inflation is not "on target".Jul 24 11:07
DaemonFCFor inflation to be happening, there needs to be growth in demand. There won't be growth in demand until people are secure in their jobs and earning enough money to spend.Jul 24 11:07
DaemonFCI mean, you get some inflation even without that because certain people will get away with demanding higher prices no matter what the economy is doing, but for the most part we can expect them to be afraid to raise prices too much for fear of choking on their own inventory.Jul 24 11:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2872620Jul 24 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Internet rallies behind bill to unplug NSA surveillance funding  http://gigaom.com/2013/07/23/internet-rallies-behind-bill-to-unplug-nsa-surveillance-funding/ #nsa #surveillance #internetJul 24 11:12
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schestowitz"Total Information Awareness was defunded once. They changed the name and did it anyway. I hope they do things better this time."Jul 24 11:12
schestowitzDaemonFC: we need to ehcek it closely, SE AndroidJul 24 11:12
schestowitz[11:07] <DaemonFC> Economists are freaking out that inflation is not "on target".Jul 24 11:13
schestowitzEconomists are like popesJul 24 11:13
schestowitzThey preach their fictionJul 24 11:13
DaemonFCI wrote my Representative and Senators and asked them to defund the NSA.Jul 24 11:13
schestowitzthat they themselves made upJul 24 11:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: clapper and alexander are worriedJul 24 11:13
DaemonFCEverything else gets cut and the NSA gets a black budget of $8 billion a year.Jul 24 11:13
schestowitzemergency meetings at the NSA, based on reportsJul 24 11:13
schestowitzWhite House/Obama opposes defunding the NSAJul 24 11:14
schestowitzOf course it does, unlike the Congress, where it's a growing goalJul 24 11:14
schestowitz$8 a yearJul 24 11:14
DaemonFCHomeland Security has spent about $1.2 TRILLION so far.Jul 24 11:14
schestowitzthat's like $30 a personJul 24 11:14
schestowitzi.e.Jul 24 11:15
DaemonFCIt admits that it doesn't even know what it spent over $200 billion on.Jul 24 11:15
schestowitzabout $150 per US family per yearJul 24 11:15
DaemonFCOfficially, it "lost track of that money".Jul 24 11:15
schestowitzand I mean, with that money you can buy a 3TTB HDDJul 24 11:15
DaemonFCIt's even worse than the DoD.Jul 24 11:15
schestowitzOn which to store far less than all of the family's videos, calls, etc.Jul 24 11:15
schestowitzso someone is making a killing and pocketingtons of money here, probably Clapper's Booz AllenJul 24 11:16
DaemonFCI doubt they lost $200 billion.Jul 24 11:16
schestowitzit's an open chequeJul 24 11:16
DaemonFCThey're probably using incompetence as an excuse to prevent telling us what they really spent it on, because most people would not approve.Jul 24 11:16
schestowitzyour government is out of controlJul 24 11:16
schestowitzImperialism over the welfare of the domestic popuilationJul 24 11:16
schestowitzDomestic interests are an afterthoughtJul 24 11:17
DaemonFCYeah.Jul 24 11:17
schestowitzNSA is spying on the whle worldJul 24 11:17
schestowitzEven China, by cracking network backbonesJul 24 11:17
schestowitzJust a mechanism to help the CIA know who to assassinateJul 24 11:17
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DaemonFCIf they cut military and "homeland security" by half, it would solve the federal deficit problem.Jul 24 11:17
schestowitzTo keep the world order whre Gates et al. rule societyJul 24 11:17
DaemonFCand they'd both still get way more money than they need.Jul 24 11:17
schestowitzIn countries like Nigeria or the Philippines they can just murder activists with impunityJul 24 11:18
DaemonFCThe problem isn't unsolvable, they just don't want to solve it in the way that they should.Jul 24 11:18
schestowitzIn other nations they need to make assassinations look like "natural causes"Jul 24 11:18
schestowitzoR intimidate or drive to poverty those actistsJul 24 11:18
schestowitzEmpire of aggressionJul 24 11:18
schestowitzThe law of rule, no rule of lawJul 24 11:18
schestowitz[11:17] <DaemonFC> If they cut military and "homeland security" by half, it would solve the federal deficit problem.Jul 24 11:19
schestowitzThere is no such problemJul 24 11:19
schestowitzIt's a problem for bankersJul 24 11:19
schestowitzThey could zero those /"debtS" nd nothing in the world would changeJul 24 11:19
schestowitzDay in, day out. People working etc.Jul 24 11:19
schestowitzBut without mortgage some might stop going to the job they hateJul 24 11:19
schestowitzSo coercion gets created by these perceptions of owing somethingJul 24 11:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2872602Jul 24 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lifeless http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/137403012484441.jpgJul 24 11:20
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schestowitz"Yes, TV was awful. Then came the internet and I've been interacting with more people than I could possibly have imagined when I was young."Jul 24 11:20
DaemonFCschestowitz, There was a game where you get to run the federal budget and the point they were trying to make is that you should cut Social Security and Medicare.Jul 24 11:21
DaemonFCInstead, I set the corporate taxes higher, reduced military and DHS spending, implemented universal healthcare, Social Security at age 62, and free college education.Jul 24 11:22
DaemonFCIn the end, I still had a surplus, so I posted my results, and they changed the game to make that impossible to do a little later on.Jul 24 11:22
DaemonFCThere's this steady drumbeat that says we need to cut into Social Security, and not even ask about all the money that gets spent everywhere else.Jul 24 11:23
DaemonFCThe sad part is that there's not much left to cut out of Social Security.Jul 24 11:24
DaemonFCThe average benefit is only about $1,150 a month right now.Jul 24 11:24
DaemonFCThat's basically enough to just barely scrape by.Jul 24 11:25
DaemonFCAnd a lot of people get less than that.Jul 24 11:25
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iophkhttp://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/23/why-steam-trading-cards-embarrass-microsoft-and-sonyJul 24 12:56
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schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/112157387623314703001/posts/Ubyi1b9TZhsJul 24 12:58
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schestowitz"Such optimism is shared by Community Manager Jono Bacon, who adds to his boss' arguments the weight of Canonical's experience. "We are the company who advertised a 75% cut on donations as a positive change for Banshee's developers. We also completely forgot to notify the Kubuntu community about the money that was supposed to reach them. We are no strangers to financial blunders, and that gives us an edge against competitors", he puns.Jul 24 12:58
schestowitzLOLJul 24 12:58
schestowitzFoss NewsJul 24 12:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2874609Jul 24 13:06
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: TechBytes Episode 85: Richard Stallman Answers Questions From JoinDiaspora http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/07/22/techbytes-episode-85-richard-stallman-answers-questions-from-joindiaspora/Jul 24 13:06
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schestowitz"thanks for my question :)"Jul 24 13:06
schestowitzI've just published the ninth part of last month's telephone conversation:Jul 24 13:39
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/07/24/richard-stallman-on-firmware/Jul 24 13:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Richard Stallman on Firmware .::. Size~: 36.74 KBJul 24 13:40
schestowitzLater parts I published as audio-only (Ogg) and next month I'll start posting videos of the Oxford dialogue, with Ogg versions only. Is YouTube acceptable if uploaded as WebM (in which case Google should support browsers with VP8)?Jul 24 13:40
schestowitz(to RMS)Jul 24 13:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2874790Jul 24 13:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does the NSA's SE Linux code need a review?  http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/60838-does-the-nsas-se-linux-code-need-a-review rules are written in cryptic ways. #nsaJul 24 13:40
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schestowitz"Agreed. Alternatives to SELinux? I know that it is more paranoid thinking than anything else, but we've learned to trust very few."Jul 24 13:40
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2875616Jul 24 17:30
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Richard Stallman on Firmware http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2013/07/24/richard-stallman-on-firmware/ #gnu #debian #freedomJul 24 17:30
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schestowitz"Rms is about to bust my fucking speakers."Jul 24 17:30
schestowitzhi linqJul 24 17:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Nutzwert/status/360031192713658368Jul 24 17:38
TechrightsBot-trNot a tweet?Jul 24 17:38
schestowitz"Translation: "I am already against the next war." pic.twitter.com/sbhhBDm5Su"Jul 24 17:38
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iophkhttp://linuxgizmos.com/linux-based-in-vehicle-infotainment-on-the-rise/Jul 24 19:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2014 Lexus IS heralds rise of Linux in automotive IVI .::. Size~: 38.49 KBJul 24 19:13
iophkThey need to differentiate between control systems and infotainment.  Jul 24 19:13
iophkInfotainment is not necessarily something to be proud of.Jul 24 19:14
iophkThe firmware and even the hardware becomes outdated quickly.  Jul 24 19:14
iophkThey'd be better off with a patch of velcro for a 3rd party tabletJul 24 19:14
iophkhttp://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-edge-might-just-change-the-computing-world-7000018464/Jul 24 19:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Edge might just change the computing world | ZDNet .::. Size~: 81.91 KBJul 24 19:31
iophkhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23432769Jul 24 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Arctic methane 'time bomb' could have huge economic costs .::. Size~: 83.32 KBJul 24 19:40
iophkhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23923-huge-methane-belch-in-arctic-could-cost-60-trillion.htmlJul 24 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Huge methane belch in Arctic could cost $60 trillion - environment - 24 July 2013 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 52.17 KBJul 24 19:41
iophkSo are these what the proposed porn ban is to distract discussion from? http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21929263.400-no-evidence-behind-british-cigarette-pack-decision.htmlJul 24 19:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No evidence behind British cigarette pack decision - opinion - 18 July 2013 - New Scientist .::. Size~: 80.35 KBJul 24 19:49
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Cirrus_Minorhi can someone tell me if this is up http://cirrusnas.servehttp.com/Jul 24 20:30
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Cirrus_Minorheh cheers broJul 24 20:33
Cirrus_Minorcirrusmpd.no-ip.org  :/Jul 24 20:35
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schestowitziophk: the exFAT dev is a femaleJul 24 20:35
iophkwhooshJul 24 20:36
schestowitzI can't find much personal stuff, just patents and paywall-fenced IEEE publicationJul 24 20:36
schestowitzI wrote s damning articleJul 24 20:36
schestowitzI will post it tomorrowJul 24 20:36
schestowitzseems like a GPL violationJul 24 20:36
schestowitzI spent 2 hours researching this, plus writingJul 24 20:36
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iophkschestowitz: this developer? https://github.com/rxrz/exfat-nofuseJul 24 20:39
iophkThere's still no license posted, so it's still proprietary code.Jul 24 20:39
iophkhttps://github.com/rxrz/exfat-nofuse/commit/dbf695748ab5e90a48cf9987d84c3d8a3177491fJul 24 20:41
iophkThat would depend on who initially wrote exfat_api.cJul 24 20:42
schestowitz[20:39] <iophk> schestowitz: this developer? https://github.com/rxrz/exfat-nofuseJul 24 20:43
schestowitzNo, someone leaked itJul 24 20:43
schestowitzapparently some Russian dudeJul 24 20:43
schestowitzsee Phoronix forumsJul 24 20:43
schestowitzbut the attribution in the code shows a proprietary software developer grabbing lots of GPL-licensed codeJul 24 20:44
schestowitzunless it was adapted from BSD codeJul 24 20:44
iophkThe one line summary at github claims it is derived from Android.  Jul 24 20:44
iophkIIRC that is GPLJul 24 20:44
iophkHere's the Phoronix linkJul 24 20:44
iophkhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxNzgJul 24 20:45
iophkExt2 would be better in firmware any wayJul 24 20:46
iophkThe "developer" did a poor job of posting licensing and contact info.  github should require both for a project to be published.Jul 24 20:54
iophkLicense could be chosen from a pulldown menu or even a matrix.Jul 24 20:54
MinceRwell, the GitHub ToS seem to imply that public repos may be viewed and forkedJul 24 21:00
MinceRhttps://help.github.com/articles/github-terms-of-service   "By setting your repositories to be viewed publicly, you agree to allow others to view and fork your repositories."Jul 24 21:00
MinceR(IANAL)Jul 24 21:00
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iophkIt's a little vague for these modern times.Jul 24 21:02
MinceRindeed.Jul 24 21:02
iophkLicenses have been done to death and there is a nice catalog of them over at the Open Source InitiativeJul 24 21:03
iophkhttp://opensource.org/licensesJul 24 21:03
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=3060Jul 24 21:39
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Cirrus_Minorwhy is mail.copilotco usin my resources TechrightsBot ?Jul 24 22:50
Cirrus_Minorhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/irc-log-27062013.htmlJul 24 22:50
Cirrus_Minoraskin coz i see its same domain ^Jul 24 22:50
MinceRthere's no AI in that bot, no point in asking it natural language questions :>Jul 24 22:51
Cirrus_Minorusualy has owner or sominJul 24 22:52
Cirrus_Minorwho gets alertd in their shell when highlightedJul 24 22:52
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Cirrus_Minor<is a dick,sory 4 noiseJul 24 22:54
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