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| Sosumi | http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/25-facts-about-the-fall-of-detroit-that-will-leave-you-shaking-your-head | Jul 25 00:30 |
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| Sosumi | :( | Jul 25 00:31 |
| Sosumi | shamefull | Jul 25 00:31 |
| abeNd-org | as a former michigander, & son of a GM worker none of that leaves me shaking my head. more like "who didnt see that coming, other than the politicians in detriot" | Jul 25 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://fl23200u.form2go.com/uk-isp-filtering-select.html | Jul 25 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jul 25 01:22 |
| Sosumi | fail | Jul 25 01:55 |
| Sosumi | but still hilarious | Jul 25 01:55 |
| Sosumi | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2366391/Internet-giants-secretly-urged-ministers-pretend-blocking-online-porn-let-Cameron-declare-victory-issue.html | Jul 25 01:55 |
| Sosumi | even more in the light that the porn filter seems to be just a smokescreen | Jul 25 01:56 |
| abeNd-org | http://www.10tvtogo.com/wap/news/text.jsp?sid=40&nid=3355439430&cid=21017 | Jul 25 02:39 |
| abeNd-org | horry crap, someone else other than white people can be fined for being racist in the US! we are all truly equals! http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130627/times-square-theater-district/times-square-club-fined-20k-for-barring-non-korean-patrons | Jul 25 02:46 |
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| MinceR | and apparently even labour's only problem with this is that they aren't really implementing the Great Firewall of Airstrip One | Jul 25 06:25 |
| MinceR | pathetic. | Jul 25 06:25 |
| MinceR | 013422 < Sosumi> http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/25-facts-about-the-fall-of-detroit-that-will-leave-you-shaking-your-head | Jul 25 06:34 |
| MinceR | ""also not honoring the (United States) president, who took (Detroit’s auto companies) out of bankruptcy", and she ordered that a copy of her judgment be sent to Barack Obama." | Jul 25 06:35 |
| MinceR | what the... | Jul 25 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Detroit is facing $20 billion in debt and unfunded liabilities. That breaks down to more than $25,000 per resident." | Jul 25 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Wow. | Jul 25 06:59 |
| *eebrah|away is now known as eebrah | Jul 25 06:59 | |
| DaemonFC | $25,000 is like double what the average Detroit welfare case makes in tax-free benefits. | Jul 25 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | "There are lots of houses available for sale in Detroit right now for $500 or less." | Jul 25 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Jul 25 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | "When you call the police in Detroit, it takes them an average of 58 minutes to respond." | Jul 25 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | That's why you should own a gun. | Jul 25 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/a-nightmare-scenario | Jul 25 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | High interest rates would keep Social Security solvent for a few more years. | Jul 25 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | But only if there are more surpluses, which isn't likely.... | Jul 25 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the people who paid in to create the current Social Security surplus are now retiring, and their children are living with them because they can't find jobs and aren't paying any Social Security taxes themselves. | Jul 25 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | "Anyone that lends the U.S. government money at current rates is being very foolish. You will end up getting back money that has much less purchasing power than you originally invested. | Jul 25 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | Why would anyone do that?" | Jul 25 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's simple really. | Jul 25 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | People invest in government bonds at negative real interest rates if they have no other suitable alternatives. | Jul 25 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | What are you going to do? Invest in government bonds in Europe? | Jul 25 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not optimistic about Obama's pick to replace Ben Bernanke. | Jul 25 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | Larry Summers. | Jul 25 07:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/360200609061797890 | Jul 25 07:21 |
| schestowitz | ""Immortality" as popularly conceived, or dreamed of by the rich, is a material concept, nothing to do with #karma whatsoever." | Jul 25 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | It's not hard to see why Jack Lew is giving the kind of advice he is to Europe. | Jul 25 07:27 |
| DaemonFC | Europe's self-inflicted wounds are the only reason the US federal government is taking on debt so cheaply. | Jul 25 07:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SheriLHerman/status/360289308617342977 | Jul 25 07:45 |
| schestowitz | "Fantastic and beautiful. I see like me you have a distinctive vision. Thank you for sharing you with me." | Jul 25 07:45 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Jul 25 07:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2872635 | Jul 25 07:50 |
| schestowitz | "Android Bionic/Linux has a certain ring to it, I should say. Rooted phones and custom ROMs often use either Busybox or a Busybox-derived set of userland programs, though." | Jul 25 07:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SheriLHerman/status/360291439583830017 | Jul 25 07:53 |
| schestowitz | "YOU are awesome!" | Jul 25 07:54 |
| schestowitz | It looks like some woan is trying to make a move in Twitter. eww... | Jul 25 07:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SheriLHerman/status/360291196469383168 | Jul 25 07:55 |
| schestowitz | "Don't eat it." | Jul 25 07:55 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SheriLHerman/status/360290285479137280 | Jul 25 07:55 |
| schestowitz | "Here I feel free to be all of me. I hope like you, others do If not for seeing the beauty I could not live with the ugly" | Jul 25 07:55 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jul 25 09:31 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: evil http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/262-3/CatWasher.gif | Jul 25 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Looks like a good idea to me. | Jul 25 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | In for one! | Jul 25 09:55 |
| MinceR | is it even necessary? i thought cats were self-cleaning | Jul 25 09:58 |
| iophk | http://stephenwhisler.net/Sculpture/Pages/Speed_Enforced_by_Drones.html | Jul 25 09:59 |
| schestowitz | The incitation against Snowden http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/07/24/Poll-finds-majority-want-NSA-leaker-Snowden-charged-with-a-crime/UPI-21801374676072/ | Jul 25 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | This is depressing. | Jul 25 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking through the employment section of Craigslist. | Jul 25 10:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: so they (cat) say... | Jul 25 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | The hiring process for a $9 an hour job looks like you're trying to become the CEO of Google now. | Jul 25 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | When the hell did this happen? | Jul 25 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | I remember when you could do that right out of high school, and you'd be working with felons, and they didn't care. | Jul 25 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | I went into job interviews in jeans and a t-shirt and had a job the next day. | Jul 25 10:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2878693 | Jul 25 10:23 |
| schestowitz | "up to now it's closed source => we can't trust. Rather I'd use RetroShare android app (app in development)." | Jul 25 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | Now it reads off like "You must come to the interview wearing a suit. A misdemeanor immediately disqualifies you. STABLE work history with no long term unemployment!" | Jul 25 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | If you've been unemployed longer than a month or something, it's probably better to lie and put down that you're working for a relative with a different last name. | Jul 25 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting really bad out here. | Jul 25 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's safe to say that 95% of the people who are still on emergency unemployment are never going to have a job again. | Jul 25 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | The federal and state governments could fix this by putting in hiring incentives for businesses that hire the long term unemployed, but they don't really care. | Jul 25 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's easier to just cut off unemployment checks and let the person figure out which trash can to eat out of. | Jul 25 10:27 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://www.thefastertimes.com/news/2013/07/24/nsa-wiretapping-americans-to-determine-if-theyre-still-mad/ | Jul 25 10:28 |
| iophk | http://www.thefastertimes.com/tech/2013/07/15/ceos-shocked-to-discover-the-cloud-is-just-a-computer-server-in-canada/ | Jul 25 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, fewer and fewer are being monitored every day. | Jul 25 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | It's hard to pay the internet bill when jobs are evaporating by the thousands. | Jul 25 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | The whole outsourcing thing bottomed out a couple of years ago. | Jul 25 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | Now jobs are just being destroyed and they're not "going" anywhere, they're just gone. | Jul 25 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | Jobs are being created to replace them, but they're like fast food and low end retail. | Jul 25 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | The kind where McDonalds figures out how to pay you less than minimum wage by loading your paycheck onto a debit card. | Jul 25 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | and Visa is nice enough to give you a model budget that assumes you're get a second full time job and leaves you with $20 a month to pay the electric bill. | Jul 25 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 25 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | *you'll | Jul 25 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Even McDonalds and Walmart is getting automated. | Jul 25 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | McDonalds has this thing I noticed after they remodeled their restaurant that automatically fills drinks that people are ordering and puts the lid and straws on them... | Jul 25 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart just put in a brand new bank of self-checkouts. | Jul 25 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | They ripped out the four old ones and put in ten brand new ones. | Jul 25 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | They went from having three or four human cashiers per shift to one or two. | Jul 25 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe three during peak hours. | Jul 25 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Their profits are going up while sales are going down because they're figuring out how to cut into payroll, take away health insurance, fire people. | Jul 25 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | In addition to the cashiers they got rid of, they don't have people greeters anymore. | Jul 25 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that theft is probably up. That position was around because the suits figured out that people are less likely to steal when someone is going to watch them as they go out the door. | Jul 25 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | They usually hired old people on Social Security to do those jobs, so it doesn't hurt as much as if they took them away from people with nothing else at all, I guess. | Jul 25 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | I've just noticed that their staffing levels have been cut dramatically. | Jul 25 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm starting to agree with Richard Stallman that a Basic Income is going to have to be implemented. I just don't think it will ever be done. | Jul 25 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | The whole economy depends on people having to buy everything that's for sale. | Jul 25 10:47 |
| schestowitz | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/07/losing-bet/ | Jul 25 10:49 |
| *eebrah|away is now known as eebrah | Jul 25 10:55 | |
| schestowitz | iophk: The Linux Haters blog has recently become just saomepolitical blog, rarely any FOSS stories,. here's the latest: http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/07/role-reversal-how-us-became-ussr.html | Jul 25 11:00 |
| schestowitz | I think that getting blocked from Linux sites pretty much took down his operation | Jul 25 11:01 |
| iophk | I had already forgotten his site. | Jul 25 11:02 |
| iophk | When I realized that he was just pushing BS, I stopped following it. That was more than a month ago when I stopped even checking on it out of idle curiosity. | Jul 25 11:04 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/windows-isnt-dying-its-just-becoming-irrelevant-7000018434/ | Jul 25 11:07 |
| iophk | Again a bit of revisionism about how M$ gained so much marketshare on the desktop | Jul 25 11:09 |
| iophk | There's also the false claim of choice. Right now the OEMs are still locked in and there's been no real offer of GNU/Linux on the desktop. | Jul 25 11:13 |
| iophk | Tablets are another thing, but very separate. | Jul 25 11:13 |
| iophk | That hybrid that Ubuntu is making with the Ubuntu Edge might shake things up if it gets out the door. | Jul 25 11:13 |
| brendyn | iophk: why locked in? they sign deals with M$? | Jul 25 11:21 |
| iophk | Contracts between OEMs and M$ are considered trade secrets by M$ | Jul 25 11:35 |
| iophk | And for a while M$ had illegal per-processor deals | Jul 25 11:35 |
| iophk | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/google-glass-porn_n_3644321.html | Jul 25 11:48 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't read into that zdnet artickle beyond the first two paragraphcs | Jul 25 12:10 |
| schestowitz | I don't think I ever read anything from this author before | Jul 25 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Maybe a new hire | Jul 25 12:11 |
| schestowitz | worth finding out who he works for | Jul 25 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Some Windows people got hired by ZDNet UK for regular Microsoft boosting, especially the Vista series | Jul 25 12:11 |
| schestowitz | As for Googlr's CCTV Glasses, doesn't Google have a policy of app censorship there too? | Jul 25 12:11 |
| schestowitz | So much for 'hackable' | Jul 25 12:12 |
| iophk | Yes, Google has a policy of app censorship. | Jul 25 12:15 |
| iophk | It seems like a whole lot of bother about nothing. | Jul 25 12:15 |
| iophk | on Google's part | Jul 25 12:15 |
| schestowitz | Google is not as aggressive as Apple at app censorship | Jul 25 12:16 |
| schestowitz | And it doesn't make it impossible to bypass restrictions | Jul 25 12:16 |
| schestowitz | by modding or alt "stores" | Jul 25 12:16 |
| schestowitz | but Google is not perfect, nobody is.. | Jul 25 12:16 |
| iophk | About A K-H, ZDNet is usually pretty weak about providing proper bios on their writers. | Jul 25 12:17 |
| iophk | That is probably by intent. | Jul 25 12:17 |
| schestowitz | !google jobs porn android | Jul 25 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Steve Jobs Reiterates: "Folks who want porn can buy an Android ... | http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/19/steve-jobs-android-porn/ | Jul 25 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Want Porn? Buy an Android Phone, Steve Jobs Says | Gadget Lab ... | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/steve-jobs-porn/ | Jul 25 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Steve Jobs: If you want porn, get an Android | Technically Incorrect ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20002922-71.html | Jul 25 12:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Steve Jobs: 'Folks Who Want Porn Can Buy An Android Phone' | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/20/steve-jobs-reiterates-fol_n_544045.html | Jul 25 12:17 |
| schestowitz | iophk: you need to look them up on the Web | Jul 25 12:17 |
| iophk | Few haver their own web pages any more. | Jul 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | Some IDG writers are the same | Jul 25 12:18 |
| iophk | About all ZDNet says about his is that he also runs a blog the 'PC Doctor' | Jul 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | In their own daytime job its like Microsoft contracting | Jul 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | And in IDG it's Linux bashing and Microsoft PR | Jul 25 12:18 |
| iophk | At first glance that suggests a dependency on Windows problems. | Jul 25 12:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I knew about him... | Jul 25 12:19 |
| schestowitz | But he's not the worst | Jul 25 12:19 |
| schestowitz | He trolls Microsoft too sometimes, and Apple... | Jul 25 12:19 |
| schestowitz | He's more like a bait issue | Jul 25 12:19 |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily Microsoft boosting | Jul 25 12:19 |
| schestowitz | http://atthechalkface.com/2013/07/24/why-my-students-do-not-need-teach-for-america/ | Jul 25 12:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why My Students Do Not Need Teach for America – SCHOOLS MATTER @ THE CHALK FACE .::. Size~: 104.06 KB | Jul 25 12:23 |
| schestowitz | These stories about the astroturf of plutocrats are very helpful for my articles... | Jul 25 12:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/AntonLaGuardia/status/360359703756288001 | Jul 25 12:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 12:24 |
| schestowitz | "Why Brazil? Geography of undersea cables RT @glynmoody: What the #NSA Wants in #Brazil - http://flip.it/4gBW9 v @schestowitz) #snowden" | Jul 25 12:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879217 | Jul 25 12:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rocapc@joindiaspora.com: Why my #students do #not #need #teachforamerica. http://atthechalkface.com/2013/07/24/why-my-students-do-not-need-teach-for-america/ | Jul 25 12:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_a3447917d5ed8b0b4395.jpg | Jul 25 12:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Why My Students Do Not Need Teach for America – SCHOOLS MATTER @ THE CHALK FACE .::. Size~: 104.01 KB | Jul 25 12:27 |
| schestowitz | "Glad to be of help :)" | Jul 25 12:27 |
| schestowitz | http://worldtruth.tv/fukushima-radioactive-cesium-levels-jump-9000-percent-in-just-three-days-nobody-knows-why/ | Jul 25 12:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fukushima: Radioactive Cesium Levels Jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why | World Truth.TV .::. Size~: 100.25 KB | Jul 25 12:38 |
| schestowitz | My short experience with this site tells me I need to VERY strongly doubt any claims made in it. Maybe I'm wrong, but this article too barely basses the BS test. | Jul 25 12:39 |
| schestowitz | * | Jul 25 12:39 |
| schestowitz | passes | Jul 25 12:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW8Qwso43wc#at=39 | Jul 25 12:43 |
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| schestowitz | peasants! They're disrupting all the profit and the corporate overlords... | Jul 25 12:43 |
| iophk | Speaking of Chicago, I can't find a decent article on the topic but a point is made about conditions there: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/07/24/nugent-to-hypocrite-celebrities-boycotting-fla-how-about-chicago-80302 | Jul 25 12:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nugent to hypocrite celebrities boycotting Fla: How about Chicago? - BizPac Review .::. Size~: 69.82 KB | Jul 25 12:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879211 | Jul 25 12:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Comcast want a shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later bill... Maddow could ask her employers that" http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/07/24/maddow-tells-the-story-of-alec-and-gun-laws-but-leaves-out-one-character/ #nbs #comcast | Jul 25 12:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Maddow Tells the Story of ALEC and Gun Laws–But Leaves Out One Character .::. Size~: 56.94 KB | Jul 25 12:49 |
| schestowitz | "Great post." | Jul 25 12:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879017 | Jul 25 12:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rocapc@joindiaspora.com: #fukushima: #radioactive #cesium #levels #jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why. http://worldtruth.tv/fukushima-radioactive-cesium-levels-jump-9000-percent-in-just-three-days-nobody-knows-why/ | Jul 25 12:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_3971c5f2f2b8406e8ac6.jpg | Jul 25 12:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Fukushima: Radioactive Cesium Levels Jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why | World Truth.TV .::. Size~: 101.07 KB | Jul 25 12:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23429421 | Jul 25 12:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - New worries for Fukushima workers .::. Size~: 81.69 KB | Jul 25 12:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2013/07/201372445017276196.html | Jul 25 12:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More steam rising from Fukushima reactor - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 118.25 KB | Jul 25 12:50 |
| schestowitz | I read the text but didn't click the videos. I wonder where that number, 9000%, came from. and what it's compared to or where. I don't know about Cesium... | Jul 25 12:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879017 | Jul 25 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rocapc@joindiaspora.com: #fukushima: #radioactive #cesium #levels #jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why. http://worldtruth.tv/fukushima-radioactive-cesium-levels-jump-9000-percent-in-just-three-days-nobody-knows-why/ | Jul 25 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_3971c5f2f2b8406e8ac6.jpg | Jul 25 12:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Fukushima: Radioactive Cesium Levels Jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why | World Truth.TV .::. Size~: 101.07 KB | Jul 25 12:59 |
| schestowitz | "well don't trust all worldtruth.tv writes, but there is definitely something wrong..." | Jul 25 12:59 |
| schestowitz | Yes, agreed | Jul 25 12:59 |
| schestowitz | If I link in a site like twitter to an article which makes inaccurate claims, then it makes *me* take responsibility, hence I check | Jul 25 13:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879017 | Jul 25 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rocapc@joindiaspora.com: #fukushima: #radioactive #cesium #levels #jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why. http://worldtruth.tv/fukushima-radioactive-cesium-levels-jump-9000-percent-in-just-three-days-nobody-knows-why/ | Jul 25 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_3971c5f2f2b8406e8ac6.jpg | Jul 25 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Fukushima: Radioactive Cesium Levels Jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why | World Truth.TV .::. Size~: 101.07 KB | Jul 25 13:09 |
| schestowitz | "Always taste the news before swallowing... :)" | Jul 25 13:09 |
| *DaemonFC is bidding on cat litter coupon auctions...lol | Jul 25 13:21 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm bidding on 6 lots of two free Arm & Hammer cat litter coupons up to $13.99. I seem to be winning at about $9 in total for each set. | Jul 25 13:22 |
| *iophk has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Jul 25 13:22 | |
| DaemonFC | Walmart has 37 pound boxes for $13.98. So I can get $167.76 worth of cat litter for $54. | Jul 25 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's not a bad return on investment. | Jul 25 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | It triples my money right away... | Jul 25 13:23 |
| *DaemonFC does that with all sorts of household supplies. | Jul 25 13:24 | |
| DaemonFC | I buy up years worth with a stack of coupons, and then do it again when I run out. | Jul 25 13:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/360375773728735232 | Jul 25 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 13:30 |
| schestowitz | "majority of cdn school districts use Microsoft and powerschool. School boards are notorious for spending massive $ on propriety" | Jul 25 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Kickbacks and 'sponsorship' can contribute to this... | Jul 25 13:30 |
| MinceR | Confucius say: Man who make mistake in elevator, wrong on many levels. | Jul 25 13:31 |
| schestowitz | "I passed the meat section of the market today xD Those dudes handling the meat.... Seriously? xD Not really a picture of health ." | Jul 25 13:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2877459 | Jul 25 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @teslas_moustache@diasp.org reshared: **Bunny man**<BR>  <BR> #gif | Jul 25 13:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: man who fat in elevator is up to somthing... | Jul 25 13:33 |
| schestowitz | back who run behind car get exhausted | Jul 25 13:33 |
| schestowitz | back who run in front of car get tired | Jul 25 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Confucius say man who stand on toilet high on pot. | Jul 25 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/360377277478998017 | Jul 25 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | " I agree. It's a great waste of money that can be utilized in other areas to better educate the child." | Jul 25 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Schools are being used to make/keep someone very rich, and that someone is never a student. | Jul 25 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I think that Basic Income is coming. | Jul 25 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | Probably not until things are getting close to a crisis. | Jul 25 13:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/360378389040873472 | Jul 25 13:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 13:38 |
| schestowitz | "other organizations are making positive strides in reducing costs by using FLOSS are cdn public libraries." | Jul 25 13:38 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe when people rebel | Jul 25 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | and scare the plutocrats | Jul 25 13:38 |
| schestowitz | and their army, the police | Jul 25 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | We already kind of have it. | Jul 25 13:38 |
| DaemonFC | It's called Supplemental Security Income. | Jul 25 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | It forces people to say they're disabled and then Social Security basically says "Yeah, OK, whatever." and they get a check in the mail each month. | Jul 25 13:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's sort of a twisted compromise so that the politicians don't have to take the fallout for people getting a check for no particular reason. | Jul 25 13:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/360378626404921344 | Jul 25 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 13:41 |
| schestowitz | ""@schestowitz: @GaryArmstrong Schools are being used to make/keep someone very rich, and that someone is never a student." very true." | Jul 25 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | "Disability" has basically become unemployability insurance. | Jul 25 13:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: or like saying you get your food and shelter covered by the state | Jul 25 13:41 |
| schestowitz | and taxpayers | Jul 25 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Many people do. | Jul 25 13:41 |
| schestowitz | and if you want more than that, then you have to do additional work | Jul 25 13:41 |
| schestowitz | debates over whether this would work seem to have become common | Jul 25 13:41 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz, DaemonFC: lol | Jul 25 13:42 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There's no reason why public housing can't work. | Jul 25 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | It's just that the government does it in a very inefficient way. | Jul 25 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | It has these things called Section 8 Vouchers that you take to a private landlord. | Jul 25 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | It makes the system cost twice what it should have to so that private landlords can gorge themselves on tax money. | Jul 25 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | Most cities have old unused buildings that the government could get really cheaply and convert into low rent apartments. | Jul 25 13:44 |
| schestowitz | some say you'd end up with people who sleep or drink all day | Jul 25 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | Private landlords would scream, but it's getting to the point where so many people need the help that it will be the only economically workable option soon. | Jul 25 13:44 |
| schestowitz | [13:42] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, There's no reason why public housing can't work. | Jul 25 13:44 |
| schestowitz | works hre | Jul 25 13:44 |
| schestowitz | it's called "council housing" | Jul 25 13:45 |
| schestowitz | can reduce crime, IMHO | Jul 25 13:45 |
| schestowitz | But those who use those get demonised | Jul 25 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. The apartment I have is "rent controlled". What that means is that they don't get any subsidies from the government for it, but they've agreed (in exchange for low interest loans and lower taxes) to keep rent affordable on a certain number of units. | Jul 25 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | The only income requirement for one person is you have to make less than $49,000 a year. | Jul 25 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | It works out pretty well for all involved. It doesn't cost the government anything and it puts apartments on the market that are $100-$150 a month below market rent. | Jul 25 13:46 |
| schestowitz | poor rich lardlords.. | Jul 25 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | That works if you have a lot of people that are not doing very well but aren't completely broke. | Jul 25 13:47 |
| schestowitz | let them suffer a bit | Jul 25 13:47 |
| schestowitz | the "slum lords" | Jul 25 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | I think they call is Section 42 or something. | Jul 25 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | I forget. It's under the Internal Revenue Code. | Jul 25 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | There's basically three levels of affordable housing that the federal government is involved in. Public housing, which is rare, Section 8 (the vouchers) which is severely underfunded and has a 5 year waiting list just about everywhere, and Section 42. | Jul 25 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | With the sequester, the Section 8 wait list is up to 8 years now in some parts of the country. | Jul 25 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | It can be as "low" as 2-3 in some places. | Jul 25 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | but the income test is pretty severe | Jul 25 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | Most people who get approved are broke because they're on Social Security or have kids. | Jul 25 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | If you're looking for affordable housing without severe income tests and waiting lists, look into Section 42. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | Almost every city has *some* Section 42 apartments. | Jul 25 13:51 |
| DaemonFC | Take this part of Indiana for example. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | A one bedroom at market rent is something like $600-$650 a month, but Section 42 might only be $400 a month. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | So it's worth looking into, and since most people now make a lot less than $49,000 a year, almost everyone qualifies. | Jul 25 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | It's really sad that all the most common jobs now pay less than $30,000 a year. | Jul 25 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | Some people would kill for $30,000 a year. | Jul 25 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | Full time at Walmart (which doesn't really happen too much now) is only like $16,000. | Jul 25 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of people fighting for some really bad jobs, and very few of them to go around. | Jul 25 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | The crisis is happening now, and its getting worse. | Jul 25 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like Spain or Greece, but it's bad. | Jul 25 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | Especially if you're in your 20s. | Jul 25 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | The unemployment rate for people my age is in the 40s now. | Jul 25 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | The government isn't talking about it, people are moving back in with their parents. | Jul 25 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's terrible. | Jul 25 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'll tell you what. Obama had a lot of people fooled, myself included. | Jul 25 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | He lurched sharply to the right as soon as he got in. | Jul 25 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | He's not really doing anything good. The thing his administration does best is manufacturing statistics to hide the problems, on paper. | Jul 25 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | It's disgusting. | Jul 25 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | People know better. The "official" news can say whatever it wants. The people that are hurting know things aren't getting better. | Jul 25 13:58 |
| iophk | Canonical is experimenting with adding lower price ranges for the Edge | Jul 25 14:08 |
| iophk | http://gigaom.com/2013/07/24/canonical-introduces-cheaper-options-in-ubuntu-edge-funding-drive-was-830-too-much/ | Jul 25 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical introduces cheaper options in Ubuntu Edge funding drive — was $830 too much? — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 83.29 KB | Jul 25 14:08 |
| iophk | Still Google news feed seems to be ignoring it in favor of known trash | Jul 25 14:10 |
| iophk | M$ Silver Lake is still involved: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-25/michael-dell-bets-on-rule-change-in-final-push-for-deal-approval.html | Jul 25 14:24 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: Microsoft's Gavin Clarke, | Jul 25 14:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/23/sap_solo_ceo_act/ | Jul 25 14:27 |
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| iophk | SAP makes expensive garbage that can choke a business if it gets inside. | Jul 25 14:28 |
| iophk | Peoplesoft is a bit worse and even more expensive. | Jul 25 14:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879516 | Jul 25 14:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook lets people create accounts for their little kids but not for their dogs. Government doesn't trust dogs to act as active informants. | Jul 25 14:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2878858 | Jul 25 14:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I went to bed and (the UK-based) Canonical unveiled this perk list for the #Ubuntu #Edge in the interim. If you have USD 625 to pledge for a phone, here's your chance once more. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge | Jul 25 14:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by rewarp@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_3edd16c5c7aa4065dc38.png | Jul 25 14:34 |
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| schestowitz | "Question is, would any mobile device produced by Canonical be an asset or liability when it comes to privacy, safety, and user security. I look at all the reasons I left Ubuntu and I think liability... then I look to Google, Apple, and Microsoft and I look back to Ubuntu... and ask the same question." | Jul 25 14:34 |
| schestowitz | What Canonical has done is not yet irreversible. They dropped Mono after a lot of pressure,and Yahoo (Microsoft) search bar plans too | Jul 25 14:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879516 | Jul 25 14:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook lets people create accounts for their little kids but not for their dogs. Government doesn't trust dogs to act as active informants. | Jul 25 14:35 |
| schestowitz | "super doggy !" | Jul 25 14:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/isDavidNelson/status/360394336032145408 | Jul 25 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 14:43 |
| schestowitz | "One of my friends refuses to go out with people who are on #facebook because they inform on 'friends' (photos, geo-tagging, etc.)" | Jul 25 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Now it's commendable, the age of digital whoring. RMS said, if you do this you'll lose real friends have have just FB 'friends' | Jul 25 14:43 |
| iophk | More DRM | Jul 25 14:45 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/top-5-features-in-android-4-3-jelly-bean-7000018522/ | Jul 25 14:45 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/isDavidNelson/status/360395749021851649 | Jul 25 14:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | very true and it's an important distinction that most people (on FB) don't recognise" | Jul 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Friends are people you can trust and count on, not people you can count (Facebook) | Jul 25 14:48 |
| schestowitz | People who upload your photos and broadcast your location without permission are not your friends, they're informants | Jul 25 14:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/isDavidNelson/status/360396828539236352 | Jul 25 14:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 14:52 |
| schestowitz | "particularly when I'm very conscious about what I broadcast about my activities and whereabouts, people should respect that" | Jul 25 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | "because they are pretty much like IMs for the NSA? Say what it is. They are working as spies for the NSA (and more) against their "friends"." | Jul 25 15:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879590 | Jul 25 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One of my friends refuses to go out with people who are on #facebook because they inform on 'friends' (photos, geo-tagging, etc.) | Jul 25 15:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879510 | Jul 25 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bolivian senator proposes national open-source software company http://www.bnamericas.com/news/technology/bolivian-senator-proposes-national-open-source-software-company #bolivia #freedom | Jul 25 15:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Bolivian senator proposes national open-source software company - BNamericas .::. Size~: 52.07 KB | Jul 25 15:01 |
| schestowitz | "behind a wall to read the whole article" | Jul 25 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Sadly... | Jul 25 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Most Bolivians might not be able to even read this thing, which maybe is the general idea.. | Jul 25 15:01 |
| schestowitz | iyeah | Jul 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | to appease the plutocrats | Jul 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | people in Hollywood and all | Jul 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | And master DRM lobbyist Gates | Jul 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Those in power help Androids gain power if it helps THEM gain power | Jul 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | E.g. with surveillance through PRISM | Jul 25 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Google now uses "backup" as a pretext for having people store a copy of /whole/ device memory on NSA DC, through PRISM. | Jul 25 15:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879590 | Jul 25 15:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One of my friends refuses to go out with people who are on #facebook because they inform on 'friends' (photos, geo-tagging, etc.) | Jul 25 15:07 |
| schestowitz | "Ah, Stasi informants of the new age. The worst part is, back in the Stasi days, people actually knew they were working as informant. Now, most of them have no clue." | Jul 25 15:07 |
| schestowitz | They just act "social" | Jul 25 15:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2878858 | Jul 25 15:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I went to bed and (the UK-based) Canonical unveiled this perk list for the #Ubuntu #Edge in the interim. If you have USD 625 to pledge for a phone, here's your chance once more. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge | Jul 25 15:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by rewarp@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_3edd16c5c7aa4065dc38.png | Jul 25 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | "Like you, I very much support the idea of Open Community and F(L)OSS. I can support Ubuntu's movements into the convergence schemata - as long as the end user can still check the code and "neuter" those auto-opt-in features Canonical seems to be so fond of nowadays... (Of course this doesn't address their seeming movement into more closed, "exclusive" systems that impact those distros that are downstream...)." | Jul 25 15:18 |
| schestowitz | "...and thank you, btw." | Jul 25 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879510 | Jul 25 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bolivian senator proposes national open-source software company http://www.bnamericas.com/news/technology/bolivian-senator-proposes-national-open-source-software-company #bolivia #freedom | Jul 25 15:31 |
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| schestowitz | :"information should be free, and better if it's an open-source news which is not open-source by itself" | Jul 25 15:31 |
| schestowitz | Yes, indeed | Jul 25 15:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cnbc.com/id/100913436 | Jul 25 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'We fight on': NSA spying foe says after vote loss .::. Size~: 82.73 KB | Jul 25 15:39 |
| schestowitz | Clapper, Obama and Alexander, and even the hypocrite Biden all pressured Congress on this by misinforming them. So now you know who's the real enemy of the US population. | Jul 25 15:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879524 | Jul 25 15:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jamesprothero@joindiaspora.com reshared: Facebook lets people create accounts for their little kids but not for their dogs. Government doesn't trust dogs to act as active informants. | Jul 25 15:49 |
| schestowitz | "My dog has a facebook account, with a real profile photo, and has never been bothered. I, on the other hand, had my account suspended (I later closed it definitely) because Tri Fólio wasn't a "real name"." | Jul 25 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879635 | Jul 25 16:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @claudiom@joindiaspora.com: So, I'm curious. Do the legislators that voted for continued #NSA surveillance have their information collected as well? It would only seem fair, no? http://www.cnbc.com/id/100913436 | Jul 25 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | "Indeed. Problem is that most of 'murica doesn't and don't inform themselves when they vote. :-/" | Jul 25 16:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879836 | Jul 25 16:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: So, I'm curious. Do the legislators that voted for continued #NSA surveillance have their information collected as well? It would only seem fair, no? http://www.cnbc.com/id/100913436 | Jul 25 16:14 |
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| schestowitz | "I'd be very interested to know what dirt the nsa has on legislators." | Jul 25 16:15 |
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| DaemonFC | LOL | Jul 25 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/Phony-FBI-Virus-Can-Hold-Your-Computer-Hostage-212056411.html | Jul 25 16:28 |
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| brendyn | "Even more disturbing for Sarah’s mother is that her underage daughter was exposed to child pornography." | Jul 25 16:30 |
| brendyn | get over it. id feel more violated about the fbi intrusion ;p | Jul 25 16:30 |
| brendyn | "FBI officials said people should not pay the fee and should replace their hard drives completely to ensure that the virus is off a computer." | Jul 25 16:31 |
| brendyn | Lmao, not mentioning reformatting | Jul 25 16:31 |
| brendyn | so people throw out good drives | Jul 25 16:31 |
| schestowitz | > That's what I thought and this is why I'll post just as Ogg Theora. | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > The issue is WHERE you post the files. | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > WebM is just as free as Ogg Theora. Posting WebM files on your own | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > site is good, just as posting Ogg Theora on your own site is good. | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > Posting on YouTube is bad, regardless of what format you upload to | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | > YouTube. | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | Yes, that's what I intended to do. YouTube has bad importers of Ogg (flawed and limited), never mind the fact that they then require proprietary software to be accessed. | Jul 25 16:33 |
| schestowitz | (to RMS) | Jul 25 16:33 |
| brendyn | webm seems to be superior? | Jul 25 16:34 |
| schestowitz | nnot sure.. | Jul 25 16:34 |
| brendyn | last i checked its on par with the bad alternative, which was technically better than ogg | Jul 25 16:34 |
| brendyn | hence ogg not being used so much | Jul 25 16:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2879875 | Jul 25 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  #Image #Picture #Science - mudskippers - #fish that have evolved to live out of water. These fish are completely amphibious, and use their pectoral fins to walk around on land. They have a large gill chamber that retains water and closes tightly when they are not immersed in water. | Jul 25 16:35 |
| schestowitz | "I do so love mudskippers." | Jul 25 16:35 |
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| schestowitz | brendyn: it's supported more widely in currently used browsers | Jul 25 16:36 |
| brendyn | ogg? | Jul 25 16:36 |
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| iophk | LG goes Android : http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/07/lg-q2-results-makes-strong-play-for-3rd-biggest-smartphone-maker-at-this-time.html | Jul 25 17:00 |
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| iophk | recovers some lost marketshare | Jul 25 17:01 |
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| schestowitz | <li><h5><a href="http://thevarguy.com/information-technology-events-and-conferences/samsung-books-its-own-developers-conference" rel="nofollow">Samsung Books Its Own Developers Conference</a></h5></li> | Jul 25 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | "This kind of thing has happened before. After USN Chief Warrant Officer John Walker sold encryption keys to the Soviets, the Navy implemented two-man control for key material." | Jul 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/07/nsa_implements.html | Jul 25 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2880062 | Jul 25 17:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My wife wants Ubuntu Edge, but I won't pledge to buy one because mobile phones are #privacy bombs and #ubuntu has poor record on privacy | Jul 25 17:56 |
| schestowitz | "get a #Jolla, both of you!" | Jul 25 17:56 |
| schestowitz | iophk: added | Jul 25 17:56 |
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| schestowitz | "How free is a #Jolla device, actually? Does it require proprietary firmware to run? And proprietary pre-installed apps? Anything else?" | Jul 25 17:57 |
| schestowitz | I heard that Jolla uses a proprietary kernel. I personalty look forward to Vivaldi, we use Android now on various devices and, the sotre is the only upside (Play), with free downloads that are easy to handle. | Jul 25 17:58 |
| schestowitz | *store | Jul 25 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/chasebockman/status/360450739635634178 | Jul 25 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | "how special : ) :" | Jul 25 18:28 |
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| iophk | http://www.menafn.com/1093682359/Finnish-startup-launches-smartphone-to-rival-giants | Jul 25 18:53 |
| iophk | "It is to go on sale in the fourth quarter, retailing for 399 euros" | Jul 25 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2880345 | Jul 25 19:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free Software Robin Hood Liberates #Disgusting Code http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/07/samsung_code/ showing GPL violations, apparently. Thanks! #exfat #swpats #gpl | Jul 25 19:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Free Software Robin Hood Liberates Leaked Samsung Code | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 124.24 KB | Jul 25 19:57 |
| schestowitz | "GPL violation?, damn it Microsoft, you never learn uh?" | Jul 25 19:57 |
| iophk | Regardless of the copyright, M$ has patents on FAT. Has it disclosed which ones specifically yet? | Jul 25 20:05 |
| iophk | Or is it still making vague threats? | Jul 25 20:05 |
| iophk | Maybe the licensing violation that "rxrz" uncovered is bigger news than the driver itself. Some of the big companies sure talk about copyright and licensing but don't back up that talk with their actions. | Jul 25 20:15 |
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| schestowitz | Snowden http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130725.png | Jul 25 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: Microsamsung violating GPL again | Jul 25 20:25 |
| schestowitz | and based on this Wired article and the leaker, might be force to relicense as GPLv2 | Jul 25 20:25 |
| schestowitz | which can be good and bad | Jul 25 20:25 |
| schestowitz | helps spread patent trap | Jul 25 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft de facto 'standards' | Jul 25 20:26 |
| iophk | "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids." | Jul 25 20:26 |
| schestowitz | But maybe defanga the patents | Jul 25 20:26 |
| schestowitz | althugh it's not GPLv3 | Jul 25 20:26 |
| iophk | The Wired article had a good quote near the end: | Jul 25 20:27 |
| iophk | “Honestly, I don’t understand how it’s even possible to patent any filesystem. It’s not a concept, it’s a variation of having a structured array of bytes on a block device.” | Jul 25 20:27 |
| iophk | It could defang the patents for that and related technologies, but just as important it could identify the patents. | Jul 25 20:27 |
| iophk | M$ seems to like to keep them secret. | Jul 25 20:27 |
| iophk | They probably know that they are flimsy | Jul 25 20:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130724/02075723919/congressional-reps-should-support-amash-amendment-just-because-white-house-statement-is-so-directly-insulting.shtml | Jul 25 20:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Congress Should Support Amash Amendment Just Because White House Statement Is So Insulting | Techdirt .::. Size~: 100.53 KB | Jul 25 20:56 |
| schestowitz | " President Obama claimed he "welcomed this debate." He might want to speed up that process, because it's happening and all he's doing is stalling and blaming others. But the debate is happening without him, and he might not like where it ends up." | Jul 25 20:56 |
| iophk | So M$ / Samsung seems to have got caught again cheating at licenses / stealing code | Jul 25 21:26 |
| schestowitz | yes, seems so | Jul 25 21:26 |
| schestowitz | This is gonna be good | Jul 25 21:26 |
| schestowitz | I wrote two articles about it, one more coming | Jul 25 21:26 |
| schestowitz | This will help vilify Microsaft and its Ballnux plot | Jul 25 21:27 |
| schestowitz | esp. the FAT-using one | Jul 25 21:27 |
| iophk | It would be great if this could force out a list of some of (or all of) the patents M$ is extorting | Jul 25 21:27 |
| schestowitz | and as I anticipated yesterday, this will be in the media for a whole, Phoronix broke the story and it'\s strating to get picked up by corporate press | Jul 25 21:27 |
| iophk | I bet their hidden code is full of BSD stuff with a little GPL here and there. | Jul 25 21:28 |
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| iophk | Someone with knowledge of statistic ought to be able to guess how much based on the samples we've had so far. | Jul 25 21:29 |
| iophk | I hope that the coverage of the current incident also helps shoot down the myth that M$ is somehow 'contributing' to FOSS in cooperation rather than having painted themselves into a corner with license violations. | Jul 25 21:33 |
| iophk | Also, sloppy code requires a lot of developer time and many commits to clean up. | Jul 25 21:33 |
| iophk | So one mess can make the illusion of a lot of activity. | Jul 25 21:33 |
| MinceR | m$ usually just chooses to not clean up sloppy code, ever :> | Jul 25 21:34 |
| iophk | No, it's usually someone else. | Jul 25 21:35 |
| iophk | In one incident it was Greg K-H that got dumped on. | Jul 25 21:35 |
| iophk | It'll be interesting to see what gets abandoned once the Wintel monopoly cannot be maintained. | Jul 25 21:36 |
| iophk | The desktop is becoming less relevant and with that the monopoly could go at any time. | Jul 25 21:37 |
| MinceR | i think winblows goes before m$ office | Jul 25 21:38 |
| iophk | M$ Office has business documents hostage. | Jul 25 21:38 |
| iophk | Though the newest version of LibreOffice apparently has better support for M$ proprietary, undocumented, non-standard format. | Jul 25 21:39 |
| iophk | — the latest of such formats | Jul 25 21:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/360500007998201856 | Jul 25 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 21:42 |
| schestowitz | "vaccines that inflict for profit funded by gates" | Jul 25 21:42 |
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| schestowitz | It's OK. It's part of Gates' experiment or clinical trials exploring some patents he is investing in (profit) | Jul 25 21:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/17454123916/irony-alert-obama-opposes-amash-amendment-because-its-blunt-approach-not-product-open-process.shtml | Jul 25 21:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Irony Alert: Obama Opposes Amash Amendment Because It's A 'Blunt Approach' And Not A Product Of 'Open' Process | Techdirt .::. Size~: 221.69 KB | Jul 25 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Obama cracks me up | Jul 25 21:51 |
| schestowitz | He's somewhat of a standup comedian, that's for sure... | Jul 25 21:51 |
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| schestowitz | "yes exploiting human subjects for medical experiments" | Jul 25 21:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/360502622706343937 | Jul 25 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 21:54 |
| schestowitz | It's India. It's cheap. And they can't sue. | Jul 25 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Gates took many photos with "brown people", so it's easier for him to sell this stuff to them (imperialism) | Jul 25 21:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/12592523908/nsa-defenders-senate-flip-out-over-amash-amendment-to-stop-dragnet.shtml | Jul 25 21:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NSA Defenders In The Senate Flip Out Over Amash Amendment To Stop Dragnet | Techdirt .::. Size~: 101.35 KB | Jul 25 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | my dad's late aunt was the last of a genaration that understood privacy | Jul 25 22:07 |
| schestowitz | she was furious when her grandchildren put photos of hers or with her on facebook | Jul 25 22:07 |
| schestowitz | thanks to them, the government has a massive stash of photos of hers | Jul 25 22:07 |
| schestowitz | when she's in her 80s | Jul 25 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Who needs to steal people's photo albums when you have stupid kids informing on their family | Jul 25 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Which always really valued privacy BTW... | Jul 25 22:08 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jul 25 22:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/chasebockman/status/360513975642894336 | Jul 25 22:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 22:41 |
| schestowitz | "Please god, purge this beautiful planet of all the ugly socio/psychopathic. corksucking .shit eating humanoid type entity's" | Jul 25 22:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-250713.html | Jul 25 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/for_a_dollar/status/360522886005530624 | Jul 25 23:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 23:32 |
| schestowitz | "" I'd buy that for a dollar!" | Jul 25 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/360530429259952128 | Jul 25 23:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 23:42 |
| schestowitz | "yep, the chickens have come home to roost" | Jul 25 23:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/360533005216923649 | Jul 25 23:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 25 23:54 |
| schestowitz | "Mark Jobs http://cdn.meme.li/instances/600x/40045251.jpg …" that is funny. They may get the donations too. It will be a strange crowdfunding record." | Jul 25 23:54 |
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