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SosumishamefullJul 25 00:31
abeNd-orgas a former michigander, & son of a GM worker none of that leaves me shaking my head. more like "who didnt see that coming, other than the politicians in detriot"Jul 25 00:43
DaemonFC 25 01:22
DaemonFClolJul 25 01:22
SosumifailJul 25 01:55
Sosumibut still hilariousJul 25 01:55
Sosumi 25 01:55
Sosumieven more in the light that the porn filter seems to be just a smokescreenJul 25 01:56
abeNd-org 25 02:39
abeNd-orghorry crap, someone else other than white people can be fined for being racist in the US! we are all truly equals! 25 02:46
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MinceRand apparently even labour's only problem with this is that they aren't really implementing the Great Firewall of Airstrip OneJul 25 06:25
MinceRpathetic.Jul 25 06:25
MinceR013422 < Sosumi> 25 06:34
MinceR""also not honoring the (United States) president, who took (Detroit’s auto companies) out of bankruptcy", and she ordered that a copy of her judgment be sent to Barack Obama."Jul 25 06:35
MinceRwhat the...Jul 25 06:35
DaemonFC"Detroit is facing $20 billion in debt and unfunded liabilities.  That breaks down to more than $25,000 per resident."Jul 25 06:59
DaemonFCWow.Jul 25 06:59
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DaemonFC$25,000 is like double what the average Detroit welfare case makes in tax-free benefits.Jul 25 07:00
DaemonFC"There are lots of houses available for sale in Detroit right now for $500 or less."Jul 25 07:00
DaemonFChmmmJul 25 07:01
DaemonFC"When you call the police in Detroit, it takes them an average of 58 minutes to respond."Jul 25 07:02
DaemonFCThat's why you should own a gun.Jul 25 07:02
DaemonFC 25 07:04
DaemonFCHigh interest rates would keep Social Security solvent for a few more years.Jul 25 07:04
DaemonFCBut only if there are more surpluses, which isn't likely....Jul 25 07:04
DaemonFCMost of the people who paid in to create the current Social Security surplus are now retiring, and their children are living with them because they can't find jobs and aren't paying any Social Security taxes themselves.Jul 25 07:05
DaemonFC"Anyone that lends the U.S. government money at current rates is being very foolish.  You will end up getting back money that has much less purchasing power than you originally invested.Jul 25 07:07
DaemonFCWhy would anyone do that?"Jul 25 07:07
DaemonFCIt's simple really.Jul 25 07:07
DaemonFCPeople invest in government bonds at negative real interest rates if they have no other suitable alternatives.Jul 25 07:07
DaemonFCWhat are you going to do? Invest in government bonds in Europe?Jul 25 07:07
DaemonFCI'm not optimistic about Obama's pick to replace Ben Bernanke.Jul 25 07:15
DaemonFCLarry Summers.Jul 25 07:15
schestowitz 25 07:21
schestowitz""Immortality" as popularly conceived, or dreamed of by the rich, is a material concept, nothing to do with #karma whatsoever."Jul 25 07:21
DaemonFCIt's not hard to see why Jack Lew is giving the kind of advice he is to Europe.Jul 25 07:27
DaemonFCEurope's self-inflicted wounds are the only reason the US federal government is taking on debt so cheaply.Jul 25 07:27
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schestowitz 25 07:45
schestowitz"Fantastic and beautiful. I see like me you have a distinctive vision. Thank you for sharing you with me."Jul 25 07:45
schestowitzThanks Jul 25 07:45
schestowitz 25 07:50
schestowitz"Android Bionic/Linux has a certain ring to it, I should say. Rooted phones and custom ROMs often use either Busybox or a Busybox-derived set of userland programs, though."Jul 25 07:50
schestowitz 25 07:53
schestowitz"YOU are awesome!"Jul 25 07:54
schestowitzIt looks like some woan is trying to make a move in Twitter. eww...Jul 25 07:55
schestowitz 25 07:55
schestowitz"Don't eat it."Jul 25 07:55
schestowitz 25 07:55
schestowitz"Here I feel free to be all of me. I hope like you, others do If not for seeing the beauty I could not live with the ugly"Jul 25 07:55
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schestowitzMinceR: evil 25 09:51
DaemonFCschestowitz, Looks like a good idea to me.Jul 25 09:54
DaemonFCIn for one!Jul 25 09:55
MinceRis it even necessary? i thought cats were self-cleaningJul 25 09:58
iophk 25 09:59
schestowitzThe incitation against Snowden 25 10:21
DaemonFCThis is depressing.Jul 25 10:21
DaemonFCI'm looking through the employment section of Craigslist.Jul 25 10:22
schestowitzMinceR: so they (cat) say... Jul 25 10:22
DaemonFC  The hiring process for a $9 an hour job looks like you're trying to become the CEO of Google now.Jul 25 10:22
DaemonFCWhen the hell did this happen?Jul 25 10:22
DaemonFCI remember when you could do that right out of high school, and you'd be working with felons, and they didn't care.Jul 25 10:23
DaemonFCI went into job interviews in jeans and a t-shirt and had a job the next day.Jul 25 10:23
schestowitz 25 10:23
schestowitz"up to now it's closed source => we can't trust. Rather I'd use RetroShare android app (app in development)."Jul 25 10:23
DaemonFCNow it reads off like "You must come to the interview wearing a suit. A misdemeanor immediately disqualifies you. STABLE work history with no long term unemployment!"Jul 25 10:24
DaemonFCIf you've been unemployed longer than a month or something, it's probably better to lie and put down that you're working for a relative with a different last name.Jul 25 10:25
DaemonFCIt's getting really bad out here.Jul 25 10:25
DaemonFCIt's safe to say that 95% of the people who are still on emergency unemployment are never going to have a job again.Jul 25 10:26
DaemonFCThe federal and state governments could fix this by putting in hiring incentives for businesses that hire the long term unemployed, but they don't really care.Jul 25 10:27
DaemonFCIt's easier to just cut off unemployment checks and let the person figure out which trash can to eat out of.Jul 25 10:27
schestowitzLOL 25 10:28
iophk 25 10:38
DaemonFCWell, fewer and fewer are being monitored every day.Jul 25 10:38
DaemonFCIt's hard to pay the internet bill when jobs are evaporating by the thousands.Jul 25 10:38
DaemonFCThe whole outsourcing thing bottomed out a couple of years ago.Jul 25 10:39
DaemonFCNow jobs are just being destroyed and they're not "going" anywhere, they're just gone.Jul 25 10:39
DaemonFCJobs are being created to replace them, but they're like fast food and low end retail.Jul 25 10:40
DaemonFCThe kind where McDonalds figures out how to pay you less than minimum wage by loading your paycheck onto a debit card.Jul 25 10:40
DaemonFCand Visa is nice enough to give you a model budget that assumes you're get a second full time job and leaves you with $20 a month to pay the electric bill.Jul 25 10:41
DaemonFC:)Jul 25 10:41
DaemonFC*you'llJul 25 10:41
DaemonFCEven McDonalds and Walmart is getting automated.Jul 25 10:42
DaemonFCMcDonalds has this thing I noticed after they remodeled their restaurant that automatically fills drinks that people are ordering and puts the lid and straws on them...Jul 25 10:42
DaemonFCWalmart just put in a brand new bank of self-checkouts.Jul 25 10:42
DaemonFCThey ripped out the four old ones and put in ten brand new ones.Jul 25 10:42
DaemonFCThey went from having three or four human cashiers per shift to one or two.Jul 25 10:43
DaemonFCMaybe three during peak hours.Jul 25 10:43
DaemonFCTheir profits are going up while sales are going down because they're figuring out how to cut into payroll, take away health insurance, fire people.Jul 25 10:44
DaemonFCIn addition to the cashiers they got rid of, they don't have people greeters anymore.Jul 25 10:44
DaemonFCI suspect that theft is probably up. That position was around because the suits figured out that people are less likely to steal when someone is going to watch them as they go out the door.Jul 25 10:45
DaemonFCThey usually hired old people on Social Security to do those jobs, so it doesn't hurt as much as if they took them away from people with nothing else at all, I guess.Jul 25 10:46
DaemonFCI've just noticed that their staffing levels have been cut dramatically.Jul 25 10:46
DaemonFCI'm starting to agree with Richard Stallman that a Basic Income is going to have to be implemented. I just don't think it will ever be done.Jul 25 10:47
DaemonFCThe whole economy depends on people having to buy everything that's for sale.Jul 25 10:47
schestowitz 25 10:49
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schestowitziophk: The Linux Haters blog has recently become just saomepolitical blog, rarely any FOSS stories,. here's the latest: 25 11:00
schestowitzI think that getting blocked from Linux sites pretty much took down his operationJul 25 11:01
iophkI had already forgotten his site. Jul 25 11:02
iophkWhen I realized that he was just pushing BS, I stopped following it.  That was more than a month ago when I stopped even checking on it out of idle curiosity.Jul 25 11:04
iophk 25 11:07
iophkAgain a bit of revisionism about how M$ gained so much marketshare on the desktopJul 25 11:09
iophkThere's also the false claim of choice.  Right now the OEMs are still locked in and there's been no real offer of GNU/Linux on the desktop.Jul 25 11:13
iophkTablets are another thing, but very separate.Jul 25 11:13
iophkThat hybrid that Ubuntu is making with the Ubuntu Edge might shake things up if it gets out the door.Jul 25 11:13
brendyniophk: why locked in? they sign deals with M$?Jul 25 11:21
iophkContracts between OEMs and M$ are considered trade secrets by M$Jul 25 11:35
iophkAnd for a while M$ had illegal per-processor dealsJul 25 11:35
iophk 25 11:48
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schestowitzI didn't read into that zdnet artickle beyond the first two paragraphcsJul 25 12:10
schestowitzI don't think I ever read anything from this author beforeJul 25 12:11
schestowitzMaybe a new hireJul 25 12:11
schestowitzworth finding out who he works forJul 25 12:11
schestowitzSome Windows people got hired by ZDNet UK for regular Microsoft boosting, especially the Vista seriesJul 25 12:11
schestowitzAs for Googlr's CCTV Glasses, doesn't Google have a policy of app censorship there too?Jul 25 12:11
schestowitzSo much for 'hackable'Jul 25 12:12
iophkYes, Google has a policy of app censorship.Jul 25 12:15
iophkIt seems like a whole lot of bother about nothing.Jul 25 12:15
iophkon Google's partJul 25 12:15
schestowitzGoogle is not as aggressive as Apple at app censorshipJul 25 12:16
schestowitzAnd it doesn't make it impossible to bypass restrictionsJul 25 12:16
schestowitzby modding or alt "stores"Jul 25 12:16
schestowitzbut Google is not perfect, nobody is..Jul 25 12:16
iophkAbout A K-H, ZDNet is usually pretty weak about providing proper bios on their writers.Jul 25 12:17
iophkThat is probably by intent.Jul 25 12:17
schestowitz!google jobs porn androidJul 25 12:17
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schestowitziophk: you need to look them up on the WebJul 25 12:17
iophkFew haver their own web pages any more.Jul 25 12:18
schestowitzSome IDG writers are the sameJul 25 12:18
iophkAbout all ZDNet says about his is that he also runs a blog the 'PC Doctor'Jul 25 12:18
schestowitzIn their own daytime job its like Microsoft contractingJul 25 12:18
schestowitzAnd in IDG it's Linux bashing and Microsoft PRJul 25 12:18
iophkAt first glance that suggests a dependency on Windows problems.Jul 25 12:18
schestowitzYes, I knew about him...Jul 25 12:19
schestowitzBut he's not the worstJul 25 12:19
schestowitzHe trolls Microsoft too sometimes, and Apple...Jul 25 12:19
schestowitzHe's more like a bait issueJul 25 12:19
schestowitzNot necessarily Microsoft boostingJul 25 12:19
schestowitz 25 12:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why My Students Do Not Need Teach for America – SCHOOLS MATTER @ THE CHALK FACE .::. Size~: 104.06 KBJul 25 12:23
schestowitzThese stories about the astroturf of plutocrats are very helpful for my articles...Jul 25 12:23
schestowitz 25 12:24
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schestowitz"Why Brazil? Geography of undersea cables RT @glynmoody: What the #NSA Wants in #Brazil -  v @schestowitz) #snowden"Jul 25 12:25
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schestowitz 25 12:27 Why my #students do #not #need #teachforamerica. 25 12:27
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schestowitz"Glad to be of help :)"Jul 25 12:27
schestowitz 25 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fukushima: Radioactive Cesium Levels Jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why | World Truth.TV .::. Size~: 100.25 KBJul 25 12:38
schestowitzMy short experience with this site tells me I need to VERY strongly doubt any claims made in it. Maybe I'm wrong,  but this article too barely basses the BS test.Jul 25 12:39
schestowitz*Jul 25 12:39
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schestowitz 25 12:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chicago Students Take Over the Board of Education Meeting - YouTube .::. Size~: 108.95 KBJul 25 12:43
schestowitzpeasants! They're disrupting all the profit and the corporate overlords...Jul 25 12:43
iophkSpeaking of Chicago, I can't find a decent article on the topic but a point is made about conditions there: 25 12:47
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schestowitz 25 12:49 "Comcast want a shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later bill... Maddow could ask her employers that" #nbs #comcastJul 25 12:49
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schestowitz"Great post."Jul 25 12:49
schestowitz 25 12:50 #fukushima: #radioactive #cesium #levels #jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why. 25 12:50
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schestowitz 25 12:50
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schestowitz 25 12:50
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schestowitzI read the text but didn't click the videos. I wonder where that number, 9000%, came from. and what it's compared to or where.  I don't know about Cesium...Jul 25 12:52
schestowitz 25 12:59 #fukushima: #radioactive #cesium #levels #jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why. 25 12:59
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schestowitz"well don't trust all writes, but there is definitely something wrong..."Jul 25 12:59
schestowitzYes, agreedJul 25 12:59
schestowitzIf I link in a site like twitter to an article which makes inaccurate claims, then it makes *me* take responsibility, hence I checkJul 25 13:01
schestowitz 25 13:09 #fukushima: #radioactive #cesium #levels #jump 9,000 Percent in Just Three Days, Nobody Knows Why. 25 13:09
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schestowitz"Always taste the news before swallowing... :)"Jul 25 13:09
*DaemonFC is bidding on cat litter coupon auctions...lolJul 25 13:21
DaemonFCI'm bidding on 6 lots of two free Arm & Hammer cat litter coupons up to $13.99. I seem to be winning at about $9 in total for each set.Jul 25 13:22
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DaemonFCWalmart has 37 pound boxes for $13.98. So I can get $167.76 worth of cat litter for $54.Jul 25 13:22
DaemonFCThat's not a bad return on investment.Jul 25 13:23
DaemonFCIt triples my money right away...Jul 25 13:23
*DaemonFC does that with all sorts of household supplies.Jul 25 13:24
DaemonFCI buy up years worth with a stack of coupons, and then do it again when I run out.Jul 25 13:24
schestowitz 25 13:30
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schestowitz"majority of cdn school districts use Microsoft and powerschool. School boards are notorious for spending massive $ on propriety"Jul 25 13:30
schestowitzKickbacks and 'sponsorship' can contribute to this...Jul 25 13:30
MinceRConfucius say: Man who make mistake in elevator, wrong on many levels.Jul 25 13:31
schestowitz"I passed the meat section of the market today xD Those dudes handling the meat.... Seriously? xD Not really a picture of health ."Jul 25 13:32
schestowitz 25 13:32 reshared: **Bunny man**<BR> ![]( <BR> #gifJul 25 13:32
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schestowitzMinceR: man who fat in elevator is up to somthing...Jul 25 13:33
schestowitzback who run behind car get exhaustedJul 25 13:33
schestowitzback who run in front of car get tiredJul 25 13:33
DaemonFCMinceR, Confucius say man who stand on toilet high on pot.Jul 25 13:37
DaemonFC:)Jul 25 13:37
schestowitz 25 13:37
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schestowitz" I agree. It's a great waste of money that can be utilized in other areas to better educate the child."Jul 25 13:37
schestowitzSchools are being used to make/keep someone very rich, and that someone is never a student.Jul 25 13:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think that Basic Income is coming.Jul 25 13:37
DaemonFCProbably not until things are getting close to a crisis.Jul 25 13:38
schestowitz 25 13:38
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schestowitz"other organizations are making positive strides in reducing costs by using FLOSS are cdn public libraries."Jul 25 13:38
schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe when people rebelJul 25 13:38
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schestowitzand scare the plutocratsJul 25 13:38
schestowitzand their army, the policeJul 25 13:38
DaemonFCWe already kind of have it.Jul 25 13:38
DaemonFCIt's called Supplemental Security Income.Jul 25 13:39
DaemonFCIt forces people to say they're disabled and then Social Security basically says "Yeah, OK, whatever." and they get a check in the mail each month.Jul 25 13:39
DaemonFCIt's sort of a twisted compromise so that the politicians don't have to take the fallout for people getting a check for no particular reason.Jul 25 13:40
schestowitz 25 13:41
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schestowitz""@schestowitz: @GaryArmstrong Schools are being used to make/keep someone very rich, and that someone is never a student." very true."Jul 25 13:41
DaemonFC"Disability" has basically become unemployability insurance.Jul 25 13:41
schestowitzDaemonFC: or like saying you get your food and shelter covered by the stateJul 25 13:41
schestowitzand taxpayersJul 25 13:41
DaemonFCMany people do.Jul 25 13:41
schestowitzand if you want more than that, then you have to do additional workJul 25 13:41
schestowitzdebates over whether this would work seem to have become commonJul 25 13:41
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MinceRschestowitz, DaemonFC: lolJul 25 13:42
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DaemonFCschestowitz, There's no reason why public housing can't work.Jul 25 13:42
DaemonFCIt's just that the government does it in a very inefficient way.Jul 25 13:42
DaemonFCIt has these things called Section 8 Vouchers that you take to a private landlord.Jul 25 13:43
DaemonFCIt makes the system cost twice what it should have to so that private landlords can gorge themselves on tax money.Jul 25 13:43
DaemonFCMost cities have old unused buildings that the government could get really cheaply and convert into low rent apartments.Jul 25 13:44
schestowitzsome say you'd end up with people who sleep or drink all dayJul 25 13:44
DaemonFCPrivate landlords would scream, but it's getting to the point where so many people need the help that it will be the only economically workable option soon.Jul 25 13:44
schestowitz[13:42] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, There's no reason why public housing can't work.Jul 25 13:44
schestowitzworks hreJul 25 13:44
schestowitzit's called "council housing"Jul 25 13:45
schestowitzcan reduce crime, IMHOJul 25 13:45
schestowitzBut those who use those get demonisedJul 25 13:45
DaemonFCYeah. The apartment I have is "rent controlled". What that means is that they don't get any subsidies from the government for it, but they've agreed (in exchange for low interest loans and lower taxes) to keep rent affordable on a certain number of units.Jul 25 13:45
DaemonFCThe only income requirement for one person is you have to make less than $49,000 a year.Jul 25 13:46
DaemonFCIt works out pretty well for all involved. It doesn't cost the government anything and it puts apartments on the market that are $100-$150 a month below market rent.Jul 25 13:46
schestowitzpoor rich lardlords..Jul 25 13:47
DaemonFCThat works if you have a lot of people that are not doing very well but aren't completely broke.Jul 25 13:47
schestowitzlet them suffer a bitJul 25 13:47
schestowitzthe "slum lords"Jul 25 13:47
DaemonFCI think they call is Section 42 or something.Jul 25 13:48
DaemonFCI forget. It's under the Internal Revenue Code.Jul 25 13:48
DaemonFCThere's basically three levels of affordable housing that the federal government is involved in. Public housing, which is rare, Section 8 (the vouchers) which is severely underfunded and has a 5 year waiting list just about everywhere, and Section 42.Jul 25 13:49
DaemonFCWith the sequester, the Section 8 wait list is up to 8 years now in some parts of the country.Jul 25 13:50
DaemonFCIt can be as "low" as 2-3 in some places.Jul 25 13:50
DaemonFCbut the income test is pretty severeJul 25 13:50
DaemonFCMost people who get approved are broke because they're on Social Security or have kids.Jul 25 13:50
DaemonFCIf you're looking for affordable housing without severe income tests and waiting lists, look into Section 42.Jul 25 13:51
DaemonFCAlmost every city has *some* Section 42 apartments.Jul 25 13:51
DaemonFCTake this part of Indiana for example.Jul 25 13:52
DaemonFCA one bedroom at market rent is something like $600-$650 a month, but Section 42 might only be $400 a month.Jul 25 13:52
DaemonFCSo it's worth looking into, and since most people now make a lot less than $49,000 a year, almost everyone qualifies.Jul 25 13:52
DaemonFCIt's really sad that all the most common jobs now pay less than $30,000 a year.Jul 25 13:53
DaemonFCSome people would kill for $30,000 a year.Jul 25 13:54
DaemonFCFull time at Walmart (which doesn't really happen too much now) is only like $16,000.Jul 25 13:54
DaemonFCThere's a lot of people fighting for some really bad jobs, and very few of them to go around.Jul 25 13:54
DaemonFCThe crisis is happening now, and its getting worse.Jul 25 13:54
DaemonFCIt's not like Spain or Greece, but it's bad.Jul 25 13:55
DaemonFCEspecially if you're in your 20s.Jul 25 13:55
DaemonFCThe unemployment rate for people my age is in the 40s now.Jul 25 13:56
DaemonFCThe government isn't talking about it, people are moving back in with their parents.Jul 25 13:56
DaemonFCIt's terrible.Jul 25 13:56
DaemonFCI'll tell you what. Obama had a lot of people fooled, myself included.Jul 25 13:57
DaemonFCHe lurched sharply to the right as soon as he got in.Jul 25 13:57
DaemonFCHe's not really doing anything good. The thing his administration does best is manufacturing statistics to hide the problems, on paper.Jul 25 13:58
DaemonFCIt's disgusting.Jul 25 13:58
DaemonFCPeople know better. The "official" news can say whatever it wants. The people that are hurting know things aren't getting better.Jul 25 13:58
iophkCanonical is experimenting with adding lower price ranges for the EdgeJul 25 14:08
iophk 25 14:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canonical introduces cheaper options in Ubuntu Edge funding drive — was $830 too much? — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 83.29 KBJul 25 14:08
iophkStill Google news feed seems to be ignoring it in favor of known trashJul 25 14:10
iophkM$ Silver Lake is still involved: 25 14:24
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schestowitziophk: Microsoft's Gavin Clarke,Jul 25 14:27
schestowitz 25 14:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SAP CEOs are like Highlanders - there can be only one • The Register .::. Size~: 45.79 KBJul 25 14:27
iophkSAP makes expensive garbage that can choke a business if it gets inside.Jul 25 14:28
iophkPeoplesoft is a bit worse and even more expensive.Jul 25 14:28
schestowitz 25 14:33 Facebook lets people create accounts for their little kids but not for their dogs. Government doesn't trust dogs to act as active informants.Jul 25 14:33
schestowitz 25 14:34 reshared: I went to bed and (the UK-based) Canonical unveiled this perk list for the #Ubuntu #Edge in the interim. If you have USD 625 to pledge for a phone, here's your chance once more. 25 14:34
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schestowitz"Question is, would any mobile device produced by Canonical be an asset or liability when it comes to privacy, safety, and user security. I look at all the reasons I left Ubuntu and I think liability... then I look to Google, Apple, and Microsoft and I look back to Ubuntu... and ask the same question."Jul 25 14:34
schestowitzWhat Canonical has done is not yet irreversible. They dropped Mono after a lot of pressure,and Yahoo (Microsoft) search bar plans tooJul 25 14:34
schestowitz 25 14:35 Facebook lets people create accounts for their little kids but not for their dogs. Government doesn't trust dogs to act as active informants.Jul 25 14:35
schestowitz"super doggy !"Jul 25 14:35
schestowitz 25 14:43
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schestowitz"One of my friends refuses to go out with people who are on #facebook because they inform on 'friends' (photos, geo-tagging, etc.)"Jul 25 14:43
schestowitzNow it's commendable, the age of digital whoring. RMS said, if you do this you'll lose real friends have have just FB 'friends'Jul 25 14:43
iophkMore DRM Jul 25 14:45
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schestowitz very true and it's an important distinction that most people (on FB) don't recognise"Jul 25 14:48
schestowitzFriends are people you can trust and count on, not people you can count (Facebook)Jul 25 14:48
schestowitzPeople who upload your photos and broadcast your location without permission are not your friends, they're informantsJul 25 14:49
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schestowitz"particularly when I'm very conscious about what I broadcast about my activities and whereabouts, people should respect that"Jul 25 14:52
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schestowitz"because they are pretty much like IMs for the NSA? Say what it is. They are working as spies for the NSA (and more) against their "friends"."Jul 25 15:00
schestowitz 25 15:00 One of my friends refuses to go out with people who are on #facebook because they inform on 'friends' (photos, geo-tagging, etc.)Jul 25 15:00
schestowitz 25 15:01 Bolivian senator proposes national open-source software company #bolivia #freedomJul 25 15:01
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schestowitz"behind a wall to read the whole article"Jul 25 15:01
schestowitzSadly...Jul 25 15:01
schestowitzMost Bolivians might not be able to even read this thing, which maybe is the general idea..Jul 25 15:01
schestowitziyeahJul 25 15:02
schestowitzto appease the plutocratsJul 25 15:02
schestowitzpeople in Hollywood and allJul 25 15:02
schestowitzAnd master DRM lobbyist GatesJul 25 15:02
schestowitzThose in power help Androids gain power if it helps THEM gain powerJul 25 15:02
schestowitzE.g. with surveillance through PRISMJul 25 15:02
schestowitzGoogle now uses "backup" as a pretext for having people store a copy of /whole/ device memory on NSA DC, through PRISM.Jul 25 15:03
schestowitz 25 15:07 One of my friends refuses to go out with people who are on #facebook because they inform on 'friends' (photos, geo-tagging, etc.)Jul 25 15:07
schestowitz"Ah, Stasi informants of the new age. The worst part is, back in the Stasi days, people actually knew they were working as informant. Now, most of them have no clue."Jul 25 15:07
schestowitzThey just act "social"Jul 25 15:08
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schestowitz 25 15:18 reshared: I went to bed and (the UK-based) Canonical unveiled this perk list for the #Ubuntu #Edge in the interim. If you have USD 625 to pledge for a phone, here's your chance once more. 25 15:18
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schestowitz"Like you, I very much support the idea of Open Community and F(L)OSS. I can support Ubuntu's movements into the convergence schemata - as long as the end user can still check the code and "neuter" those auto-opt-in features Canonical seems to be so fond of nowadays... (Of course this doesn't address their seeming movement into more closed, "exclusive" systems that impact those distros that are downstream...)."Jul 25 15:18
schestowitz"...and thank you, btw."Jul 25 15:18
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schestowitz 25 15:31 Bolivian senator proposes national open-source software company #bolivia #freedomJul 25 15:31
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schestowitz:"information should be free, and better if it's an open-source news which is not open-source by itself"Jul 25 15:31
schestowitzYes, indeedJul 25 15:31
schestowitz 25 15:39
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schestowitzClapper, Obama and Alexander, and even the hypocrite Biden all pressured Congress on this by misinforming them. So now you know who's the real enemy of the US population.Jul 25 15:40
schestowitz 25 15:49 reshared: Facebook lets people create accounts for their little kids but not for their dogs. Government doesn't trust dogs to act as active informants.Jul 25 15:49
schestowitz"My dog has a facebook account, with a real profile photo, and has never been bothered. I, on the other hand, had my account suspended (I later closed it definitely) because Tri Fólio wasn't a "real name"."Jul 25 15:49
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schestowitz 25 16:11 So, I'm curious.  Do the legislators that voted for continued #NSA surveillance have their information collected as well?  It would only seem fair, no? 25 16:11
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schestowitz"Indeed. Problem is that most of 'murica doesn't and don't inform themselves when they vote. :-/"Jul 25 16:11
schestowitz 25 16:14 reshared: So, I'm curious.  Do the legislators that voted for continued #NSA surveillance have their information collected as well?  It would only seem fair, no? 25 16:14
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schestowitz"I'd be very interested to know what dirt the nsa has on legislators."Jul 25 16:15
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brendyn"Even more disturbing for Sarah’s mother is that her underage daughter was exposed to child pornography."Jul 25 16:30
brendynget over it. id feel more violated about the fbi intrusion ;pJul 25 16:30
brendyn"FBI officials said people should not pay the fee and should replace their hard drives completely to ensure that the virus is off a computer."Jul 25 16:31
brendynLmao, not mentioning reformattingJul 25 16:31
brendynso people throw out good drivesJul 25 16:31
schestowitz>     That's what I thought and this is why I'll post just as Ogg Theora.Jul 25 16:33
schestowitz> Jul 25 16:33
schestowitz> The issue is WHERE you post the files.Jul 25 16:33
schestowitz> Jul 25 16:33
schestowitz> WebM is just as free as Ogg Theora.  Posting WebM files on your ownJul 25 16:33
schestowitz> site is good, just as posting Ogg Theora on your own site is good.Jul 25 16:33
schestowitz> Jul 25 16:33
schestowitz> Posting on YouTube is bad, regardless of what format you upload toJul 25 16:33
schestowitz> YouTube.Jul 25 16:33
schestowitzYes, that's what I intended to do. YouTube has bad importers of Ogg (flawed and limited), never mind the fact that they then require proprietary software to be accessed.Jul 25 16:33
schestowitz(to RMS)Jul 25 16:33
brendynwebm seems to be superior?Jul 25 16:34
schestowitznnot sure..Jul 25 16:34
brendynlast i checked its on par with the bad alternative, which was technically better than oggJul 25 16:34
brendynhence ogg not being used so muchJul 25 16:34
schestowitz 25 16:35 reshared: ![]( #Image #Picture #Science - mudskippers - #fish that have evolved to live out of water. These fish are completely amphibious, and use their pectoral fins to walk around on land. They have a large gill chamber that retains water and closes tightly when they are not immersed in water.Jul 25 16:35
schestowitz"I do so love mudskippers."Jul 25 16:35
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schestowitzbrendyn: it's supported more widely in currently used browsersJul 25 16:36
brendynogg?Jul 25 16:36
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iophkLG goes Android : 25 17:00
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iophkrecovers some lost marketshareJul 25 17:01
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schestowitz<li><h5><a href="" rel="nofollow">Samsung Books Its Own Developers Conference</a></h5></li>Jul 25 17:39
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schestowitz"This kind of thing has happened before. After USN Chief Warrant Officer John Walker sold encryption keys to the Soviets, the Navy implemented two-man control for key material."Jul 25 17:39
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schestowitz 25 17:56 My wife wants Ubuntu Edge, but I won't pledge to buy one because mobile phones are #privacy bombs and #ubuntu has poor record on privacyJul 25 17:56
schestowitz"get a #Jolla, both of you!"Jul 25 17:56
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schestowitz"How free is a #Jolla device, actually? Does it require proprietary firmware to run? And proprietary pre-installed apps? Anything else?"Jul 25 17:57
schestowitzI heard that Jolla uses a proprietary kernel. I personalty look forward to Vivaldi, we use Android now on various devices and, the sotre is the only upside (Play), with free downloads that are easy to handle.Jul 25 17:58
schestowitz*storeJul 25 17:58
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schestowitz"how special : ) :"Jul 25 18:28
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iophk"It is to go on sale in the fourth quarter, retailing for 399 euros"Jul 25 18:53
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schestowitz 25 19:57 Free Software Robin Hood Liberates #Disgusting Code showing GPL violations, apparently. Thanks! #exfat #swpats #gplJul 25 19:57
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schestowitz"GPL violation?, damn it Microsoft, you never learn uh?"Jul 25 19:57
iophkRegardless of the copyright, M$ has patents on FAT.  Has it disclosed which ones specifically yet?Jul 25 20:05
iophkOr is it still making vague threats?Jul 25 20:05
iophkMaybe the licensing violation that "rxrz" uncovered is bigger news than the driver itself.  Some of the big companies sure talk about copyright and licensing but don't back up that talk with their actions.Jul 25 20:15
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schestowitzSnowden 25 20:25
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schestowitziophk: Microsamsung violating GPL againJul 25 20:25
schestowitzand based on this Wired article and the leaker, might be force to relicense as GPLv2Jul 25 20:25
schestowitzwhich can be good and badJul 25 20:25
schestowitzhelps spread patent trapJul 25 20:26
schestowitzMicrosoft de facto 'standards'Jul 25 20:26
iophk"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids."Jul 25 20:26
schestowitzBut maybe defanga the patentsJul 25 20:26
schestowitzalthugh it's not GPLv3Jul 25 20:26
iophkThe Wired article had a good quote near the end:Jul 25 20:27
iophk“Honestly, I don’t understand how it’s even possible to patent any filesystem. It’s not a concept, it’s a variation of having a structured array of bytes on a block device.”Jul 25 20:27
iophkIt could defang the patents for that and related technologies, but just as important it could identify the patents.Jul 25 20:27
iophkM$ seems to like to keep them secret.Jul 25 20:27
iophkThey probably know that they are flimsyJul 25 20:28
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schestowitz" President Obama claimed he "welcomed this debate." He might want to speed up that process, because it's happening and all he's doing is stalling and blaming others. But the debate is happening without him, and he might not like where it ends up."Jul 25 20:56
iophkSo M$ / Samsung seems to have got caught again cheating at licenses / stealing codeJul 25 21:26
schestowitzyes, seems soJul 25 21:26
schestowitzThis is gonna be goodJul 25 21:26
schestowitzI wrote two articles about it, one more comingJul 25 21:26
schestowitzThis will help vilify Microsaft and its Ballnux plotJul 25 21:27
schestowitzesp. the FAT-using oneJul 25 21:27
iophkIt would be great if this could force out a list of some of (or all of) the patents M$ is extortingJul 25 21:27
schestowitzand as I anticipated yesterday, this will be in the media for a whole, Phoronix broke the story and it'\s strating to get picked up by corporate pressJul 25 21:27
iophkI bet their hidden code is full of BSD stuff with a little GPL here and there.  Jul 25 21:28
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iophkSomeone with knowledge of statistic ought to be able to guess how much based on the samples we've had so far.Jul 25 21:29
iophkI hope that the coverage of the current incident also helps shoot down the myth that M$ is somehow 'contributing' to FOSS in cooperation rather than having painted themselves into a corner with license violations.Jul 25 21:33
iophkAlso, sloppy code requires a lot of developer time and many commits to clean up.Jul 25 21:33
iophkSo one mess can make the illusion of a lot of activity.Jul 25 21:33
MinceRm$ usually just chooses to not clean up sloppy code, ever :>Jul 25 21:34
iophkNo, it's usually someone else.Jul 25 21:35
iophkIn one incident it was Greg K-H that got dumped on.Jul 25 21:35
iophkIt'll be interesting to see what gets abandoned once the Wintel monopoly cannot be maintained.Jul 25 21:36
iophkThe desktop is becoming less relevant and with that the monopoly could go at any time.Jul 25 21:37
MinceRi think winblows goes before m$ officeJul 25 21:38
iophkM$ Office has business documents hostage.Jul 25 21:38
iophkThough the newest version of LibreOffice apparently has better support for M$ proprietary, undocumented, non-standard format.Jul 25 21:39
iophk— the latest of such formatsJul 25 21:41
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schestowitz"vaccines that inflict for profit funded by gates"Jul 25 21:42
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schestowitzIt's OK. It's part of Gates' experiment or clinical trials exploring some patents he is investing in (profit)Jul 25 21:48
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schestowitzObama cracks me upJul 25 21:51
schestowitzHe's somewhat of a standup comedian, that's for sure...Jul 25 21:51
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schestowitz"yes exploiting human subjects for medical experiments"Jul 25 21:54
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schestowitzIt's India. It's cheap. And they can't sue.Jul 25 21:54
schestowitzGates took many photos with "brown people", so it's easier for him to sell this stuff to them (imperialism)Jul 25 21:55
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schestowitzmy dad's late aunt was the last of a genaration that understood privacyJul 25 22:07
schestowitzshe was furious when her grandchildren put photos of hers or with her on facebookJul 25 22:07
schestowitzthanks to them, the government has a massive stash of photos of hersJul 25 22:07
schestowitzwhen she's in her 80sJul 25 22:07
schestowitzWho needs to steal people's photo albums when you have stupid kids informing on their familyJul 25 22:08
schestowitzWhich always really valued privacy BTW...Jul 25 22:08
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MinceRgnJul 25 22:21
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schestowitz"Please god, purge this beautiful planet of all the ugly socio/psychopathic. corksucking .shit eating humanoid type entity's"Jul 25 22:41
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schestowitz"" I'd buy that for a dollar!"Jul 25 23:32
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schestowitz"yep, the chickens have come home to roost"Jul 25 23:42
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schestowitz"Mark Jobs …" that is funny. They may get the donations too. It will be a strange crowdfunding record."Jul 25 23:54
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