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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2889511 | Jul 29 01:26 |
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| TechrightsBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So stormy in afternoon, *waves* of water in the streets, rain by the bucketloads. Felt like a jungle, umbrella didn't help much. Soaked. #uk | Jul 29 01:26 |
| schestowitz | "That's how it always is here, but it's getting worse. West Coast climates like your should be more gentle. #globalwarming is a curse" | Jul 29 01:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2889694 | Jul 29 01:26 |
| TechrightsBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Fastest Amphibious Car in the World**<BR>  <BR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2150iFXF5Vc <BR>2 min video <BR> #water #car | Jul 29 01:26 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a web page! Aborting application/xml type | Jul 29 01:26 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: WaterCar Panther - Fastest Amphibious Car in the World - www.WaterCar.com - OFFICIAL PROMO VIDEO - YouTube .::. Size~: 122.86 KB | Jul 29 01:26 |
| schestowitz | "I like the fact that someone has designed this - but am not keen on the way it is portrayed ......... be interesting to know how much fuel it uses MPG ........ probably very bad." | Jul 29 01:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2888432 | Jul 29 02:18 |
| TechrightsBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Arch Linux Is the First Stable Distro with Linux Kernel 3.10 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Arch-Linux-Is-the-First-Stable-Distro-with-Linux-Kernel-3-10-371457.shtml #gnu #linux #archlinux | Jul 29 02:18 |
| TechrightsBot | -> Title: Arch Linux Is the First Stable Distro with Linux Kernel 3.10 .::. Size~: 64.76 KB | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | systemd has been a bit problematic. I was an early adopter. A power failure, yes a power failure, broke the graphical environment, and I switched back to Linux Mint for a while. | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | More recently, I encountered problems with the gdm handoff to the graphical environment, but I was able to bypass it by not starting gdm automatically and just running XFCE for a while (there were other problems with cinnamon at this stage, as well). | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | Right now, everything is working well, and I've been running Arch on my server for quite a long time now. | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | But I'm really unhappy with journalctl. It doesn't show complete messages. It makes arbitrary and too often wrong decisions about what messages to store. I have to figure out how to trim the quantity of logging it stores because the default settings accumulate months of cruft that takes a very long time to search. | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | Part of this, I think, is an upstream personality, who is also responsible for a sound system overlay on Linux that was so reliably a disaster that for years I had to deinstall it on every Linux installation I had. (Really, Alsa does just fine, thank you.) | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | So yes, I agree, to call Arch stable is an exaggeration. | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | But then, I don't regard broken apt-get dist-upgrades as stable either. | Jul 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 29 02:18 |
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| TechrightsBN | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.63 | Jul 29 03:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JorgeStolfi/status/361566589054758912 | Jul 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBN | @JorgeStolfi: Free Software Foundation: "Windows 8 is intercepting your stuff and sending it to the NSA" http://t.co/TMnAaaugEH [via @schestowitz ] | Jul 29 03:16 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a tweet? | Jul 29 03:16 |
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| schestowitz | >> Odd. It would need a detailed explanation and it also depends on | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | >> /how/ one uses the DE. KDE4 is a workhorse for me and I adapted to | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | >> it over the past 10+ years (was using also GNOME and Enlightenment | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | >> before it although I first used KDE in 2000). | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | > I started with KDE in around 2001 coming via Enlightenment after a | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | > bunch of years with FVWM and CWM. I tried Gnome a little back then | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | > also, but did not like it as much. Gnome was built from a bad design | Jul 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | > and the UI sucked the more they changed it. Then the KDE4 that was | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > dumped on the world was shocking but since they said it was an Alpha | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > version and promised it would get better. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | I think I used KDE 2.x on Red Hat (before Fedora) and my editor was nedit. I used it in Introduction to Linux or something, in my fist few days in University (I had heard of Linux before but never used it). My friend who was Finnish kept saying that Linux is invented by some guy in Finland. No credit for RMS even back then. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | GNOME I was not really aware of; certainly not the philosophy. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > However, the UI at least has not improved. I had dropped it for XFCE | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > / LXDE and a little FVWM when it was first pushed out. I tried KDE4 | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > again finally all day yesterday. The widgets in the task bar are | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > great, but the contrast for titles and notifications is too poor to | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > use outdoors. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | I have issues with it even indoors. Not enough is done to get my attention, e.g. when space runs low on the disks. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | The task bar I don't pay much attention to. I move between apps by moving between workspace (CTRL+Fx). | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > Then there is the alt-tab problem mentioned above. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > Then the new K menu is hosed. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | ALT+TAB is deprecated to me. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > It's really fiddly with tiny/narrow | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > hotspots and needing to cover an insane amount of ground between | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > clicks for any action, most needing to jog back and forth 3 to 5 | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > times. In KDE3.x those same tasks took one click and a short drag. I | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > don't think I can recommend KDE4 to anyone. It's just clunky and | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > inefficient. KDE needs to make a list of tasks that users normally do | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > (what they really do not what some UI designer wants them to do), then | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > work out some time-motion studies using a mouse odometer and maybe | Jul 29 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | > some eye tracking. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you use it like you use another DE. Maybe that's the problem. Habits. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > I'm back on LXDE today but it lacks support for my 3G modem which KDE | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > could at least use. I'm hoping that's fixable because wireless does | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > not work with either. Battery with either is only 2 hours instead of | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > 5. Also, there's an annoying habit of the trackpad to click without | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > touching it so the cursor jumps around enough that the system is | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > really not usable for writing. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | You can probably change this behaviour. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > On the desktop, with a normal mouse and real ethernet, therle are no | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > significant problems. Mostly everything there is great. LXDE and | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > FVWM run like on rails. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > However the desktop is a dinosaur. Around here there are fewer and | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > fewer homes with desktops. More and more have low-end, disposable | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | > notebooks. | Jul 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Nothing can replace a large set of displays and large peripherals. Not for everything, for now... | Jul 29 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | >> The task bar I don't pay much attention to. I move between apps by | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | >> moving between workspace (CTRL+Fx). | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > When I did development, I kept different activities and projects in | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > different work spaces. I still like best how FVWM allows a window to | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > be dragged completely or partially from one workspace to another. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | I think all major WMs support this now. There's lot of customisation around this function in KDE settings. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Jul 29 14:51 | |
| schestowitz | >> Maybe you use it like you use another DE. Maybe that's the problem. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | >> Habits. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > These are old habits and they end up getting reinforced by switching | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > machines all the time. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | You must consolidate on one to become more productive. I'm still not crazy about using Android. I'd install KDE on the tablet if I got all the apps and hardware working for sure. Keyboards and mice not being there is an issue (also on-screen keyboard); I'm waiting for Vivaldi with Plasma. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Jul 29 14:51 | |
| schestowitz | >> You can probably change this behaviour. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > It's a kernel bug from 2011, but one they are working on. It has | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > improved a bit since it was originally completely unusable. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Maybe preinstalled Linux is still the thing to aim for then. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Jul 29 14:51 | |
| schestowitz | >> Nothing can replace a large set of displays and large peripherals. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | >> Not for everything, for now... | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I should have added the caveat for most home use. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > For work, regular desktops are not going anywhere for a while. | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > (Battery critical now. That was also only 2 hours worth with LXDE and | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | > an ethernet connection, no dongles.) | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Did you test battery life on Windows? Not after heavy use that degrades battery life... | Jul 29 14:51 |
| schestowitz | There are many stories where Gates F****** is being used to bribe countries to embrace Windows rather than GNU/Linux. Some are documented in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Jul 29 17:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2892140 | Jul 29 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rendering 3-D and videos on this machine overheats the GPU, forcing system shutdown. Any trick/script for suspending a process periodically? | Jul 29 18:06 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rendering 3-D and videos on this machine overheats the GPU, forcing system shutdown. Any trick/script for suspending a process periodically? | Jul 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz | "What about some script that would monitor the temperature of the GPU and set the frequency to minimum if hitting certain threshold?" | Jul 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2892225 | Jul 29 18:06 |
| TechrightsBN | Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 29 18:06 |
| TechrightsBot | Not a Diaspora post? | Jul 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah. Sorry to pick on you, Roy." | Jul 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2892325 | Jul 29 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Olympics & international sports promote nationalism by making it obligatory to associate with flag. Imagine sports w/ just names, no flags. | Jul 29 18:07 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Olympics & international sports promote nationalism by making it obligatory to associate with flag. Imagine sports w/ just names, no flags. | Jul 29 18:07 |
| schestowitz | "Then that wouldn't promote nationalism but individualism . A different sickness ..." | Jul 29 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > I bought an Asus Eee 701 with Linux when they were available. It | Jul 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > needs proprietary blobs for the wireless. It's way too small for | Jul 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > regular use, so I have been using it as a utility box and have tiny | Jul 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > OpenBSD on it. | Jul 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > I might get a System 76 next year if nothing else is available by | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > then. But pre-installed is the way to go if we can get past blobs. | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > However that's been the holy grail of desktop Linux since the 1990's. | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > M$ still has the monopoly on OEMs. | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | When it comes to laptops and desktops. | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Jul 29 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | >> Did you test battery life on Windows? Not after heavy use that | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | >> degrades battery life... | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > No. I won't ever install Windows again. I gave it up at home in | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > 2001. I had it on a notebook which I used for games and 1999-2000 to | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > test web site compatibility on. By 2001 I stopped wasting time with | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > MSIE on services I developed. At work we never had Windows except | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > when I did end-user tech support at UMich prior to 1995, even then it | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > was just there to help walk through user support, our main computers | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > were Sparc or Mac. Though my previous job was at a 100% M$ shop, I | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > had ways around that. | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > Back to the point, that machine still dual boots OS X (I'd like to | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | > ditch that) and it is OS X which gets the ~5 hours out of the battery. | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Phoronix energy tests don't show such a stark difference. Something is probably mal-configured. | Jul 29 20:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2892140 | Jul 29 20:11 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rendering 3-D and videos on this machine overheats the GPU, forcing system shutdown. Any trick/script for suspending a process periodically? | Jul 29 20:11 |
| TechrightsBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rendering 3-D and videos on this machine overheats the GPU, forcing system shutdown. Any trick/script for suspending a process periodically? | Jul 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | "you should be able to determine the number of render cycles it completes before OH and take 30% ish off that total and only render that many frames at a time?" | Jul 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | I don't have this option. It renders a fixed number of frames, than I CTRL+Z the program and fg after temp goes down. | Jul 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | I would like to have something that runs the program for x seconds, then suspends for y seconds, and again. Scheduelders and nice'ing don't have such a n option. | Jul 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2892687 | Jul 29 20:26 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rikomagic goes Linux with #Picuntu http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/73251-rikomagic-goes-linux-with-picuntu #linux #ubuntu | Jul 29 20:26 |
| TechrightsBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rikomagic goes Linux with #Picuntu http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/73251-rikomagic-goes-linux-with-picuntu #linux #ubuntu | Jul 29 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | " | Jul 29 20:26 |
| schestowitz | £74.99 http://www.cloudsto.com/new-mk802iv-quad-core.html | Jul 29 20:26 |
| schestowitz | £64.99 GBP http://www.cloudsto.com/mk802iii-le-mini-linux-pc.html | Jul 29 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | "Unfortunately, pricing and availability of the devices have yet to be announced, but TG Daily will keep you posted." | Jul 29 20:26 |
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| TechrightsBN | Title: Linux Mini PC's : MK802III LE (Linux Edition) Picuntu Linux Mini PC .::. Size~: 30.31 KB | Jul 29 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Whatever. | Jul 29 20:26 |
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| schestowitz | [20:26] <TechrightsBN> Title: Rikomagic MK802IV Quad Core .::. Size~: 25.08 KB | Jul 29 20:35 |
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| schestowitz | [20:31] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2892528 | Jul 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <TechrightsBN> @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Police Caught Planting Drugs In Small Business http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMA1Otuat2U last month. #police #setup #framing #trap | Jul 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <TechrightsBN> -> Title: Police Caught Planting Drugs In Small Business - YouTube .::. Size~: 119.99 KB | Jul 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <schestowitz> "It is happening everywhere, it is how they generate revenue for their cities and counties which are going broke because their budgets for cities of the size of 26,000 people is over 13 million. That is the spending budget not the fiscal reserve we have budget. So if you make someone a criminal you can take what they have and make a profit at no cost. Same goes for prisons, that why terms for stays have gotten | Jul 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | longer. #corrupt # | Jul 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <schestowitz> police #government" | Jul 29 20:35 |
| schestowitz | [20:32] <schestowitz> Prison labour is practised a lot in East Asia and the Nazis did a lot of this too before or while they were mass murdering people whom they couldn't make work hard (they 'cost' food and then bullets) | Jul 29 20:35 |
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