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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2914244Aug 05 00:10
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Hole in Our Collective Memory: How #Copyright Made Mid-Century Books Vanish http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/the-hole-in-our-collective-memory-how-copyright-made-mid-century-books-vanish/278209/Aug 05 00:10
TechrightsSocial-> Title: The Hole in Our Collective Memory: How Copyright Made Mid-Century Books Vanish - Rebecca J. Rosen - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 142.95 KBAug 05 00:10
schestowitz"This does not surprise me at all. This is yet another data point supporting shorter copyright terms."Aug 05 00:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2911007Aug 05 00:55
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: Sabayon is So Pretty and Fast http://sabayon.org/article/sabayon-so-pretty-and-fastAug 05 00:55
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Sabayon is So Pretty and Fast | Sabayon | Home .::. Size~: 26.25 KBAug 05 00:55
schestowitz"still 35 secs for a sabayon boot. Need a shorter song than that, Im afraid"Aug 05 00:55
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s-990@JohnFugelsang   If you can't be with the wine you love, love the wine you'reAug 05 02:28
s-990 retweeted by    with.Aug 05 02:28
s-990 @qu1j0t3        Aug 05 02:28
s-990........................................  http://ur1.ca/ewf32Aug 05 02:28
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: RT @JohnFugelsang: If you can't be with the wine you love, love the wine you're with.Aug 05 02:28
qu1j0t335 secs, wowAug 05 02:30
s-990@DrDawg          Hey, Conservatives, are you for letting US cops operateAug 05 02:35
s-990 retweeted by    extraterritorially on Canadian soil? Let's hear from ya!Aug 05 02:35
s-990 @qu1j0t3        http://t.co/tf9eidKW61Aug 05 02:35
s-990........................................  http://ur1.ca/ewf7nAug 05 02:35
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: RT @DrDawg: Hey, Conservatives, are you for letting US cops operate extraterritorially on Canadian soil? Let's hear from ya! http://t.co/tf…Aug 05 02:35
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s-990@TOMayorFrod     Small businesses employ 80% of all employment in #Toronto.Aug 05 02:37
s-990 retweeted by    That's why we need more Wal-Marts. #Ford1010 #TOpoliAug 05 02:37
s-990 @qu1j0t3        Aug 05 02:37
s-990........................................  http://ur1.ca/ewf9cAug 05 02:37
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: RT @TOMayorFrod: Small businesses employ 80% of all employment in #Toronto. That's why we need more Wal-Marts. #Ford1010 #TOpoliAug 05 02:37
s-990@TOMayorFrod     LRTs will cause irritable bowel syndrome and make yourAug 05 02:55
s-990 retweeted by    children cry. We need subways, folks. And rocket boots.Aug 05 02:55
s-990 @qu1j0t3        #TOpoli #torontoAug 05 02:55
s-990........................................  http://ur1.ca/ewflnAug 05 02:55
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: RT @TOMayorFrod: LRTs will cause irritable bowel syndrome and make your children cry. We need subways, folks. And rocket boots. #TOpoli #to…Aug 05 02:55
s-990@TOMayorFrod     Meeting with some young #Toronto residents in the importAug 05 03:03
s-990 retweeted by    business. I foresee a bright future for them.  #TOpoliAug 05 03:03
s-990 @qu1j0t3        http://t.co/LFof6t2IfKAug 05 03:03
s-990........................................  http://ur1.ca/ewfqsAug 05 03:03
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: RT @TOMayorFrod: Meeting with some young #Toronto residents in the import business. I foresee a bright future for them.  #TOpoli http://t.c…Aug 05 03:03
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schestowitz> I assume you saw this:Aug 05 07:25
schestowitz> Aug 05 07:25
schestowitz> http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/extraminutes/8700026/julian-assange-reporter-discussionAug 05 07:25
schestowitzI have not seen it yet, thanks.Aug 05 07:25
TechrightsSocialTitle: Julian Assange: Reporter discussion .::. Size~: 66.26 KBAug 05 07:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.dkriesel.com/en/blog/2013/0802_xerox-workcentres_are_switching_written_numbers_when_scanningAug 05 17:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Xerox scanners/photocopiers randomly alter numbers in scanned documents · D. Kriesel .::. Size~: 30.54 KBAug 05 17:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/08/words_banned_from_bing_and_google_s_autocomplete_algorithms.html?wpisrc=newsletter_slatest_morning_newsletterAug 05 17:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: Words banned from Bing and Google’s autocomplete algorithms. - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 109.2 KBAug 05 17:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2918975Aug 05 19:18
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Home computer" https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_d257393f95723dbc6085.jpgAug 05 19:19
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: is the bot down for upgrade?Aug 05 19:19
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Aug 05 20:19
schestowitz> Aug 05 20:19
schestowitz> Wales kind of dodges on the question of factions or interests camping onAug 05 20:19
schestowitz> articles and preventing any changes:Aug 05 20:19
schestowitz> Aug 05 20:19
schestowitz> http://interviews.slashdot.org/story/13/08/04/1425214/interview-jimmy-wales-answers-your-questionsAug 05 20:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: Interview: Jimmy Wales Answers Your Questions - Slashdot .::. Size~: 210.85 KBAug 05 20:19
schestowitz> Aug 05 20:19
schestowitz> This comment at the end gives specific examples, but basically anythingAug 05 20:19
schestowitz> that is high political (or can be politicized) or controversial becomesAug 05 20:19
schestowitz> victim to the effect.  M$ or its third party marketeers is particularlyAug 05 20:19
schestowitz> active in abusing Wikipedia.Aug 05 20:19
schestowitz> Aug 05 20:19
schestowitz> http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4050741&cid=44477759Aug 05 20:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: Interview: Jimmy Wales Answers Your Questions - Slashdot .::. Size~: 63.28 KBAug 05 20:19
schestowitz"Aug 05 20:19
schestowitzOkay Jimmy, here is some evidence for you. Look at the Nuclear Power [wikipedia.org] article.Aug 05 20:19
schestowitzIt's been heavily spammed by two editors who own the article. Whenever anyone else tries to improve it their edits get reverted. Boundarylayer is particularly bad, inserting loads of industry shill references. I tried to improve it but eventually gave up, and now it has degenerated into a poor quality article with lots of very obvious bias and weasel words.Aug 05 20:20
schestowitzIf you look at Boundarylayer's edits he has a history of doing this sort of thing, along with several others he associates with (or may even be). The situation is the same every time: attack an article and keep going until they either win and take control of it or get driven away by bans and other sanctions.Aug 05 20:20
schestowitzTo pick another total unrelated example look at the naming fiasco for Japanese manga/anime related articles from a few years ago. A group of editors decided to troll by renaming them all to the western version names. We ended up with, for example, the article on Detective Conan, one of the longest running and most well known series ever, being renamed to "Case Closed" because some shitty American company re-wrote a few Aug 05 20:20
schestowitzepisodes and dubbed them into English. I really do mean a few, compared to the 500+ that have been produced. A lot of editors objected but in the end the trolls won and drove all the good guys who added all the well referenced and well written information in the first place away. Unsurprisingly the articles then stagnated and degraded.Aug 05 20:20
schestowitzBeing in denial doesn't help. Wikipedia is supposed to be a community, but actually it's just factions playing some kind of MMORPG by conquering as much of it as possible.Aug 05 20:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2919322Aug 05 20:29
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #nsa can work for corporations in #hollywood www.techdirt.com/articles/20130805/02262624061/other-government-agencies-wanted-access-to-nsa-surveillance-data-other-investigations-including-copyright-infringement.shtmlAug 05 20:29
schestowitz"Not used to hunt all the boogy men of the infopocalypse, used to punish sharing and political dissent."Aug 05 20:29
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3066#comicAug 05 22:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal .::. Size~: 20.99 KBAug 05 22:41
qu1j0t3http://ur1.ca/ewvs5Aug 05 23:53
TechrightsSocial@mathewi: RT @mims: Jeff Bezos now owns both Washington Post, $600 million server cloud for CIA. That won't be a conflict of interest. http://t.co/BD…Aug 05 23:53
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: Please follow this guy. http://ur1.ca/ewvvwAug 05 23:58
TechrightsSocial@umairh: It's almost as if we have to start new newspapers or something.Aug 05 23:58

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