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schestowitznot only MSAug 01 00:00
Chips_B_MalroyXP facing end of life updates next april is in a way a good thingAug 01 00:00
schestowitzbut Microsoft was amongf those who gave BayStar guaranteesAug 01 00:00
schestowitzIn addition to paying themselvesAug 01 00:00
schestowitz20 million dollars I thinkAug 01 00:00
schestowitzand BayStar was used by MS to inject another 30 millionAug 01 00:00
Chips_B_MalroyyepAug 01 00:01
schestowitzI think MS also tried to use SunAug 01 00:01
schestowitzBecause Jonathan Schwartz said something without naming the companyAug 01 00:01
Chips_B_Malroyif XP expires it sort of becomes abandonwareAug 01 00:01
schestowitzalluding to a plot to do such an evil thing like SCO didAug 01 00:01
schestowitzSun did pay SCO, IIRCAug 01 00:01
schestowitzbut didn't go further afterwardsAug 01 00:01
schestowitza lot of people forgot and forgave MSAug 01 00:02
Chips_B_Malroyfalls in a gray area, where it will be harder for MS to sue indivial users that do not pay to use itAug 01 00:02
Chips_B_Malroywell, I do not forgetAug 01 00:02
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Chips_B_MalroyWhen the ship is going down the softies will jump and grab onto anything to stay afloat, even suing users who have not paid copy's of their software.  Heck, they have been doing this to businesses with the BSA for a long time.Aug 01 00:04
Chips_B_MalroyThe memo of Ballmer sort of sounds like Elop's 'burning platform' memo.Aug 01 00:10
Chips_B_Malroyburning platform=W8 in this caseAug 01 00:11
Chips_B_MalroyWell Roy, I have taken up enough of you time.  Later.Aug 01 00:11
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sebsebsebhi DaemonFC about?Aug 01 00:23
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DaemonFC 01 02:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why History Needs Software Piracy .::. Size~: 126.53 KBAug 01 02:21
DaemonFCPeople who list "barely used" goods as new need to be burned alive.Aug 01 02:31
DaemonFCIf it's been out of the box and turned on, it is USED.Aug 01 02:31
*DaemonFC is looking at Wii-U consoles on ebay.Aug 01 02:31
DaemonFCI'm not going to buy one on ebay though.Aug 01 02:31
DaemonFCToo much could go wrong. I'd rather have an actual store with a reputable return policy.Aug 01 02:32
DaemonFCI wonder when the price will come down.Aug 01 02:32
DaemonFC 01 02:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Waiting For Wii U To Drop In Price? Not Going To Happen, Says Nintendo - Wii U News @ Nintendo Life .::. Size~: 258.39 KBAug 01 02:32
DaemonFCI guess that answers it.Aug 01 02:33
DaemonFC"With the PS4 and Xbox One looming on the horizon and Wii U sales in the toilet, it's the most logical way of reigniting consumer interest and making sure there's a large install base to attract vital third-party support."Aug 01 02:33
DaemonFCIf it wasn't for the PS4, then that wouldn't be true.Aug 01 02:34
DaemonFCThe Xbox One sounds truly awful.Aug 01 02:34
DaemonFC"We’ve gone from being the highest-priced console on the market to now being a great value with the announcements from our competitors."Aug 01 02:35
DaemonFCIn other words "We're both rotten." "Yes, but you're just a little bit more rotten.".Aug 01 02:36
DaemonFCI'm just a little uncomfortable paying more than $300 for a video game console. It's happened before, but only in inflation-adjusted dollars, and not in decades.Aug 01 02:37
DaemonFCWith video gaming, it's better to get in when the console is nearing end of life. You grab the console for less than half of what the initial price was, the bugs are worked out, and there's a market flooded with used games.Aug 01 02:38
DaemonFCIt's even more concerning that a lot of people spend $60 on one game.Aug 01 02:41
DaemonFCI don't like to spend more than $10 on any one game, with rare exceptions.Aug 01 02:41
DaemonFCI mean, if it's a collector's item, rare, hard to find, I'll go higher, but with a lot of these, it's just a plastic disc that they made a million copies of, and if one person won't sell it to you for $4-5, someone else will.Aug 01 02:42
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AdmFubarhi all   Aug 01 04:15
AdmFubarin the rss feed, the  Links 31/7/2013:, the link for an article"The State of the Linux Desktop" results in a page not found.. it looks like it is a problem with the "Datamation" site though... someone might want to point it out to themAug 01 04:18
AdmFubarlaters allAug 01 04:18
AdmFubaroh best to give the link 01 04:18
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schestowitz 01 07:37 What makes me curious is, why did Jim Lynch, a GNU/Linux proponent, decide to smear it 90% of the time under IDG as his employer?Aug 01 07:37
schestowitz"Maybe he's writing more but IDG only publishes the FUD."Aug 01 07:37
schestowitzhe has not published reviews in weeks or months.Aug 01 07:37
schestowitzBait gets more hits.Aug 01 07:37
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iophkthe simple is now difficult : 01 12:07
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iophk 01 12:46
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iophk 01 12:48
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iophk 01 13:08
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iophk 01 13:23
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iophk"Dear Google, care to start supporting ODF across your services or do you want us all to drop Google Docs and instead use Microsoft Office?"Aug 01 13:24
brendynwould expect ODF users to go for libreofficeAug 01 13:25
iophkLibreOffice would benefit from Google Docs supporting ODF.Aug 01 13:25
iophkIt would be a larger base to exchange documents with.Aug 01 13:25
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sebsebsebhiAug 01 14:15
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iophk 01 14:28
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iophkDoes the gag restriction still apply?Aug 01 14:28
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__martin__yeah I wish him luck in getting more contacts within that one year of his temporary asylum..Aug 01 14:35
__martin__rysiek|pl: is there any hackerspace near Krakow or borders of which you are aware?Aug 01 14:36
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DaemonFCI have to go by the post office to send a letter certified mail before Paypal will refund my money from that seller.Aug 01 15:05
DaemonFCTheir customer support is fucking awful.Aug 01 15:05
DaemonFCThey make you spend a long time on hold, and then ship counterfeit merchandise you were sold back to the seller with a tracking number, at your own expense.Aug 01 15:06
DaemonFCSo I'll end up recovering about half the money I was cheated out of by the time I pay to send that letter.Aug 01 15:06
DaemonFCI would just say fuck it, but then it would let him keep the money.Aug 01 15:08
DaemonFCSo I left him some nasty feedback and I've been flagging all of his other auctions as Fraud.Aug 01 15:08
DaemonFCebay de-listed a bunch of themAug 01 15:08
DaemonFChe put more up this morning, so I flagged those tooAug 01 15:09
DaemonFCI'm going to do my best to be a pain in his ass and render his account unusableAug 01 15:09
DaemonFCfuck himAug 01 15:09
DaemonFCI'm pissed and he has my attention now.Aug 01 15:09
__martin__not using paypal and co. myself, rather opting for this rms's technique regards using non-free stuff where cannot be evaded.. asking a friend of mine to pay if i need it so much and giving him cash in person Aug 01 15:12
iophk"Right now, any shares not voted are automatically placed in the “no” column"Aug 01 15:14
iophk 01 15:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Icahn to Dell: Let the Vote on Buyout Bid Take Place .::. Size~: 48.88 KBAug 01 15:14
iophkThey are trying to re-write the rules to change the result.Aug 01 15:14
DaemonFCI'm not mailing him his fake coupons backAug 01 15:15
DaemonFCI took a blank sheet of paper and folded it a bunch of times so the envelope looks like it has something in it.Aug 01 15:15
DaemonFCHe'll sign for it, expecting to get the coupons back so he can sell them to someone else, and get a blank sheet of paper.Aug 01 15:16
DaemonFCPaypal already decided the claim in my favor. The evidence that I mailed him something is the tracking number.Aug 01 15:16
DaemonFCThese are high quality fakes. The counterfeiters that sold them to him even reproduced the security holograms.Aug 01 15:19
DaemonFCSo it's not something he could just print out himself.Aug 01 15:19
DaemonFCThe manufacturer realized they were getting more of them back than what they sent out and canceled the offer.Aug 01 15:19
DaemonFCI also know it's fake because the expiration date has been changedAug 01 15:19
DaemonFCall the real ones expired in March and these say they're good until December of next yearAug 01 15:20
abeNd-orgwhich coupon is that?Aug 01 15:20
DaemonFCFree Arm & Hammer product up to $13.99Aug 01 15:21
DaemonFCI think, sadly, that any Free Product coupon on ebay should probably be considered a counterfeit, even if it has the security features.Aug 01 15:22
abeNd-orgyea, i wouldnt trust coupons off ebay/freecycle/craigslistAug 01 15:22
DaemonFCWhoever is producing these has access to some really good equipment.Aug 01 15:22
DaemonFCSo I don't think there's anything wrong with mailing him back an envelope with a blank piece of paper in it.Aug 01 15:23
DaemonFCWhy let him make them someone else's problem?Aug 01 15:23
DaemonFCAs soon as I get my money back, I'm going to shred them.Aug 01 15:23
DaemonFCIt's ridiculous that Paypal makes you return counterfeit coupons.Aug 01 15:24
DaemonFCThey're basically asking me to commit mail fraud to get my refund.Aug 01 15:24
abeNd-orgas long as you include a hard copy of where paypal says to send them, you should be in the clearAug 01 15:24
DaemonFCI'm not going to risk it.Aug 01 15:25
DaemonFCPutting fake coupons in the mail is legally the same thing as mailing counterfeit money to someone.Aug 01 15:25
DaemonFCIf for some reason the post office opened it up and found those, it would be a felony.Aug 01 15:26
DaemonFCBut it's not a crime to mail someone a blank piece of paper.Aug 01 15:26
DaemonFCbrb, I'm going to go take care of this asshole.Aug 01 15:27
iophk 01 16:03
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DaemonFCThere.Aug 01 16:03
DaemonFCThat should fix his little red wagon.Aug 01 16:04
msb__Here's a great collection of articles: 01 16:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Search  |  Global Research .::. Size~: 47.77 KBAug 01 16:18
msb__I think it's organized psychopaths that control the world.  They do it through sophisticated mind control.Aug 01 16:19
msb__They program us not to think!Aug 01 16:20
msb__They  program us to cut off communication with anyone who tries to tell us about them.Aug 01 16:22
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iophk 01 16:38
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sebsebsebjono: dude you need to hype up Ubuntu Edge or it will fail big time probably!Aug 01 16:55
sebsebsebthe goal of all that moneyAug 01 16:55
jonosebsebseb, lolAug 01 16:55
sebsebsebjono: I kind of want one, but I have a feeling the goal of  32 million dollers won't be met, and so no phones thenAug 01 16:56
jonosebsebseb, well, we are doing our best to get it fundedAug 01 16:56
jonoand everyone can play a part, so pledge :-)Aug 01 16:56
sebsebsebwell yeahAug 01 16:57
sebsebseb,but 32 million is a lotAug 01 16:57
sebsebsebjono: about £500 for a phone is quite a bit, but that one would be speicalAug 01 16:57
sebsebsebplus it dual boots with ANdroid right?Aug 01 16:57
sebsebsebthe real proper Android ?Aug 01 16:57
sebsebsebjono: how long is the battery going to last?Aug 01 16:59
sebsebsebsomeone was saying it may have bad battery life last night when I was saying about it onlineAug 01 16:59
sebsebsebjono: is the t-shirt seperate ? seems soAug 01 17:01
jonosebsebseb, 500 is a lot but it is way more powerfulAug 01 17:01
jonoand a beautiful buildAug 01 17:01
jonothere will be god battery lifeAug 01 17:01
jonogoodAug 01 17:01
jonobrbAug 01 17:01
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fewtThe edge looks like a 4.5" surface pro. :)Aug 01 17:55
fewtjono what has Ubuntu done to improve battery life?  Are you using a fork of laptop-mode-tools or something of that nature?Aug 01 17:56
fewton the Edge I meanAug 01 17:56
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sebsebsebfewt: it won't sell unless they get the 32 millionAug 01 19:43
sebsebsebfewt: there won't be a edge if notAug 01 19:43
fewtsebsebseb: I suspect they will fall 10-15 mil shortAug 01 19:44
sebsebsebfewt: yeah probably something like thatAug 01 19:44
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sebsebsebDaemonFC: ping!Aug 01 19:59
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iophkastroturfing 01 21:37
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