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schestowitz | not only MS | Aug 01 00:00 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | XP facing end of life updates next april is in a way a good thing | Aug 01 00:00 |
schestowitz | but Microsoft was amongf those who gave BayStar guarantees | Aug 01 00:00 |
schestowitz | In addition to paying themselves | Aug 01 00:00 |
schestowitz | 20 million dollars I think | Aug 01 00:00 |
schestowitz | and BayStar was used by MS to inject another 30 million | Aug 01 00:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yep | Aug 01 00:01 |
schestowitz | I think MS also tried to use Sun | Aug 01 00:01 |
schestowitz | Because Jonathan Schwartz said something without naming the company | Aug 01 00:01 |
Chips_B_Malroy | if XP expires it sort of becomes abandonware | Aug 01 00:01 |
schestowitz | alluding to a plot to do such an evil thing like SCO did | Aug 01 00:01 |
schestowitz | Sun did pay SCO, IIRC | Aug 01 00:01 |
schestowitz | but didn't go further afterwards | Aug 01 00:01 |
schestowitz | a lot of people forgot and forgave MS | Aug 01 00:02 |
Chips_B_Malroy | falls in a gray area, where it will be harder for MS to sue indivial users that do not pay to use it | Aug 01 00:02 |
Chips_B_Malroy | well, I do not forget | Aug 01 00:02 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | When the ship is going down the softies will jump and grab onto anything to stay afloat, even suing users who have not paid copy's of their software. Heck, they have been doing this to businesses with the BSA for a long time. | Aug 01 00:04 |
Chips_B_Malroy | The memo of Ballmer sort of sounds like Elop's 'burning platform' memo. | Aug 01 00:10 |
Chips_B_Malroy | burning platform=W8 in this case | Aug 01 00:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Well Roy, I have taken up enough of you time. Later. | Aug 01 00:11 |
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sebsebseb | hi DaemonFC about? | Aug 01 00:23 |
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DaemonFC | http://technologizer.com/2012/01/23/why-history-needs-software-piracy/ | Aug 01 02:21 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why History Needs Software Piracy .::. Size~: 126.53 KB | Aug 01 02:21 |
DaemonFC | People who list "barely used" goods as new need to be burned alive. | Aug 01 02:31 |
DaemonFC | If it's been out of the box and turned on, it is USED. | Aug 01 02:31 |
*DaemonFC is looking at Wii-U consoles on ebay. | Aug 01 02:31 | |
DaemonFC | I'm not going to buy one on ebay though. | Aug 01 02:31 |
DaemonFC | Too much could go wrong. I'd rather have an actual store with a reputable return policy. | Aug 01 02:32 |
DaemonFC | I wonder when the price will come down. | Aug 01 02:32 |
DaemonFC | http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/06/waiting_for_wii_u_to_drop_in_price_not_going_to_happen_says_nintendo | Aug 01 02:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Waiting For Wii U To Drop In Price? Not Going To Happen, Says Nintendo - Wii U News @ Nintendo Life .::. Size~: 258.39 KB | Aug 01 02:32 |
DaemonFC | I guess that answers it. | Aug 01 02:33 |
DaemonFC | "With the PS4 and Xbox One looming on the horizon and Wii U sales in the toilet, it's the most logical way of reigniting consumer interest and making sure there's a large install base to attract vital third-party support." | Aug 01 02:33 |
DaemonFC | If it wasn't for the PS4, then that wouldn't be true. | Aug 01 02:34 |
DaemonFC | The Xbox One sounds truly awful. | Aug 01 02:34 |
DaemonFC | "We’ve gone from being the highest-priced console on the market to now being a great value with the announcements from our competitors." | Aug 01 02:35 |
DaemonFC | In other words "We're both rotten." "Yes, but you're just a little bit more rotten.". | Aug 01 02:36 |
DaemonFC | I'm just a little uncomfortable paying more than $300 for a video game console. It's happened before, but only in inflation-adjusted dollars, and not in decades. | Aug 01 02:37 |
DaemonFC | With video gaming, it's better to get in when the console is nearing end of life. You grab the console for less than half of what the initial price was, the bugs are worked out, and there's a market flooded with used games. | Aug 01 02:38 |
DaemonFC | It's even more concerning that a lot of people spend $60 on one game. | Aug 01 02:41 |
DaemonFC | I don't like to spend more than $10 on any one game, with rare exceptions. | Aug 01 02:41 |
DaemonFC | I mean, if it's a collector's item, rare, hard to find, I'll go higher, but with a lot of these, it's just a plastic disc that they made a million copies of, and if one person won't sell it to you for $4-5, someone else will. | Aug 01 02:42 |
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AdmFubar | hi all | Aug 01 04:15 |
AdmFubar | in the rss feed, the Links 31/7/2013:, the link for an article"The State of the Linux Desktop" results in a page not found.. it looks like it is a problem with the "Datamation" site though... someone might want to point it out to them | Aug 01 04:18 |
AdmFubar | laters all | Aug 01 04:18 |
AdmFubar | oh best to give the link http://www.datamation.com/news/the-state-of-the-linux-desktop.html | Aug 01 04:18 |
TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 404 @ http://www.datamation.com/news/the-state-of-the-linux-desktop.html ) | Aug 01 04:18 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2902010 | Aug 01 07:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What makes me curious is, why did Jim Lynch, a GNU/Linux proponent, decide to smear it 90% of the time under IDG as his employer? | Aug 01 07:37 |
schestowitz | "Maybe he's writing more but IDG only publishes the FUD." | Aug 01 07:37 |
schestowitz | he has not published reviews in weeks or months. | Aug 01 07:37 |
schestowitz | Bait gets more hits. | Aug 01 07:37 |
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iophk | old - http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/31/82-year-old-nun-about-to-be-sentenced-as-a-terrorist | Aug 01 10:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 82 year old nun about to be sentenced as a terrorist | The Top Information Post .::. Size~: 62.5 KB | Aug 01 10:10 |
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iophk | the simple is now difficult : http://askubuntu.com/questions/67925/how-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut-in-unity | Aug 01 12:07 |
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iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/01/android-apple-google-play-apps | Aug 01 12:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android overtakes iOS for app downloads, but Apple's platform still more lucrative for developers | Technology | theguardian.com .::. Size~: 112.45 KB | Aug 01 12:46 |
iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/07/got-an-account-on-a-site-like-github-hackers-may-know-your-e-mail-address/ | Aug 01 12:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Got an account on a site like Github? Hackers may know your e-mail address | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 44.99 KB | Aug 01 12:48 |
iophk | http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-07/31/mit-aaron-swartz-report | Aug 01 13:08 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MIT not to blame for Aaron Swartz prosecution, MIT report says (Wired UK) .::. Size~: 58.92 KB | Aug 01 13:08 |
iophk | http://www.muktware.com/5798/microsoft-office-comes-android-i-wont-be-installing-it | Aug 01 13:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Office comes to Android, I won't be installing it | Muktware .::. Size~: 74.53 KB | Aug 01 13:23 |
iophk | "Dear Google, care to start supporting ODF across your services or do you want us all to drop Google Docs and instead use Microsoft Office?" | Aug 01 13:24 |
brendyn | would expect ODF users to go for libreoffice | Aug 01 13:25 |
iophk | LibreOffice would benefit from Google Docs supporting ODF. | Aug 01 13:25 |
iophk | It would be a larger base to exchange documents with. | Aug 01 13:25 |
iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law | Aug 01 13:26 |
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sebsebseb | hi | Aug 01 14:15 |
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iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23535524 | Aug 01 14:28 |
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iophk | Does the gag restriction still apply? | Aug 01 14:28 |
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__martin__ | yeah I wish him luck in getting more contacts within that one year of his temporary asylum.. | Aug 01 14:35 |
__martin__ | rysiek|pl: is there any hackerspace near Krakow or borders of which you are aware? | Aug 01 14:36 |
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DaemonFC | I have to go by the post office to send a letter certified mail before Paypal will refund my money from that seller. | Aug 01 15:05 |
DaemonFC | Their customer support is fucking awful. | Aug 01 15:05 |
DaemonFC | They make you spend a long time on hold, and then ship counterfeit merchandise you were sold back to the seller with a tracking number, at your own expense. | Aug 01 15:06 |
DaemonFC | So I'll end up recovering about half the money I was cheated out of by the time I pay to send that letter. | Aug 01 15:06 |
DaemonFC | I would just say fuck it, but then it would let him keep the money. | Aug 01 15:08 |
DaemonFC | So I left him some nasty feedback and I've been flagging all of his other auctions as Fraud. | Aug 01 15:08 |
DaemonFC | ebay de-listed a bunch of them | Aug 01 15:08 |
DaemonFC | he put more up this morning, so I flagged those too | Aug 01 15:09 |
DaemonFC | I'm going to do my best to be a pain in his ass and render his account unusable | Aug 01 15:09 |
DaemonFC | fuck him | Aug 01 15:09 |
DaemonFC | I'm pissed and he has my attention now. | Aug 01 15:09 |
__martin__ | not using paypal and co. myself, rather opting for this rms's technique regards using non-free stuff where cannot be evaded.. asking a friend of mine to pay if i need it so much and giving him cash in person | Aug 01 15:12 |
iophk | "Right now, any shares not voted are automatically placed in the “no” column" | Aug 01 15:14 |
iophk | http://www.eweek.com/pc-hardware/icahn-to-dell-let-the-vote-on-buyout-bid-take-place/ | Aug 01 15:14 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Icahn to Dell: Let the Vote on Buyout Bid Take Place .::. Size~: 48.88 KB | Aug 01 15:14 |
iophk | They are trying to re-write the rules to change the result. | Aug 01 15:14 |
DaemonFC | I'm not mailing him his fake coupons back | Aug 01 15:15 |
DaemonFC | I took a blank sheet of paper and folded it a bunch of times so the envelope looks like it has something in it. | Aug 01 15:15 |
DaemonFC | He'll sign for it, expecting to get the coupons back so he can sell them to someone else, and get a blank sheet of paper. | Aug 01 15:16 |
DaemonFC | Paypal already decided the claim in my favor. The evidence that I mailed him something is the tracking number. | Aug 01 15:16 |
DaemonFC | These are high quality fakes. The counterfeiters that sold them to him even reproduced the security holograms. | Aug 01 15:19 |
DaemonFC | So it's not something he could just print out himself. | Aug 01 15:19 |
DaemonFC | The manufacturer realized they were getting more of them back than what they sent out and canceled the offer. | Aug 01 15:19 |
DaemonFC | I also know it's fake because the expiration date has been changed | Aug 01 15:19 |
DaemonFC | all the real ones expired in March and these say they're good until December of next year | Aug 01 15:20 |
abeNd-org | which coupon is that? | Aug 01 15:20 |
DaemonFC | Free Arm & Hammer product up to $13.99 | Aug 01 15:21 |
DaemonFC | I think, sadly, that any Free Product coupon on ebay should probably be considered a counterfeit, even if it has the security features. | Aug 01 15:22 |
abeNd-org | yea, i wouldnt trust coupons off ebay/freecycle/craigslist | Aug 01 15:22 |
DaemonFC | Whoever is producing these has access to some really good equipment. | Aug 01 15:22 |
DaemonFC | So I don't think there's anything wrong with mailing him back an envelope with a blank piece of paper in it. | Aug 01 15:23 |
DaemonFC | Why let him make them someone else's problem? | Aug 01 15:23 |
DaemonFC | As soon as I get my money back, I'm going to shred them. | Aug 01 15:23 |
DaemonFC | It's ridiculous that Paypal makes you return counterfeit coupons. | Aug 01 15:24 |
DaemonFC | They're basically asking me to commit mail fraud to get my refund. | Aug 01 15:24 |
abeNd-org | as long as you include a hard copy of where paypal says to send them, you should be in the clear | Aug 01 15:24 |
DaemonFC | I'm not going to risk it. | Aug 01 15:25 |
DaemonFC | Putting fake coupons in the mail is legally the same thing as mailing counterfeit money to someone. | Aug 01 15:25 |
DaemonFC | If for some reason the post office opened it up and found those, it would be a felony. | Aug 01 15:26 |
DaemonFC | But it's not a crime to mail someone a blank piece of paper. | Aug 01 15:26 |
DaemonFC | brb, I'm going to go take care of this asshole. | Aug 01 15:27 |
iophk | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/07/the-2013-nexus-7-review-meet-the-new-standard-for-android-tablets/ | Aug 01 16:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cheaper than most, better than all: the 2013 Nexus 7 reviewed | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 54.92 KB | Aug 01 16:03 |
DaemonFC | There. | Aug 01 16:03 |
DaemonFC | That should fix his little red wagon. | Aug 01 16:04 |
msb__ | Here's a great collection of articles: http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=psychopaths | Aug 01 16:18 |
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msb__ | I think it's organized psychopaths that control the world. They do it through sophisticated mind control. | Aug 01 16:19 |
msb__ | They program us not to think! | Aug 01 16:20 |
msb__ | They program us to cut off communication with anyone who tries to tell us about them. | Aug 01 16:22 |
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iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/07/senators-take-intelligence-officials-to-the-mat-over-secret-courts-phone-metadata/ | Aug 01 16:38 |
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iophk | http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/08/01/german-newspaper-publishers-seem-not-to-understand-google-news/ | Aug 01 16:55 |
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sebsebseb | jono: dude you need to hype up Ubuntu Edge or it will fail big time probably! | Aug 01 16:55 |
sebsebseb | the goal of all that money | Aug 01 16:55 |
jono | sebsebseb, lol | Aug 01 16:55 |
sebsebseb | jono: I kind of want one, but I have a feeling the goal of 32 million dollers won't be met, and so no phones then | Aug 01 16:56 |
jono | sebsebseb, well, we are doing our best to get it funded | Aug 01 16:56 |
jono | and everyone can play a part, so pledge :-) | Aug 01 16:56 |
sebsebseb | well yeah | Aug 01 16:57 |
sebsebseb | ,but 32 million is a lot | Aug 01 16:57 |
sebsebseb | jono: about £500 for a phone is quite a bit, but that one would be speical | Aug 01 16:57 |
sebsebseb | plus it dual boots with ANdroid right? | Aug 01 16:57 |
sebsebseb | the real proper Android ? | Aug 01 16:57 |
sebsebseb | jono: how long is the battery going to last? | Aug 01 16:59 |
sebsebseb | someone was saying it may have bad battery life last night when I was saying about it online | Aug 01 16:59 |
sebsebseb | jono: is the t-shirt seperate ? seems so | Aug 01 17:01 |
jono | sebsebseb, 500 is a lot but it is way more powerful | Aug 01 17:01 |
jono | and a beautiful build | Aug 01 17:01 |
jono | there will be god battery life | Aug 01 17:01 |
jono | good | Aug 01 17:01 |
jono | brb | Aug 01 17:01 |
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fewt | The edge looks like a 4.5" surface pro. :) | Aug 01 17:55 |
fewt | jono what has Ubuntu done to improve battery life? Are you using a fork of laptop-mode-tools or something of that nature? | Aug 01 17:56 |
fewt | on the Edge I mean | Aug 01 17:56 |
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sebsebseb | fewt: it won't sell unless they get the 32 million | Aug 01 19:43 |
sebsebseb | fewt: there won't be a edge if not | Aug 01 19:43 |
fewt | sebsebseb: I suspect they will fall 10-15 mil short | Aug 01 19:44 |
sebsebseb | fewt: yeah probably something like that | Aug 01 19:44 |
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sebsebseb | DaemonFC: ping! | Aug 01 19:59 |
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iophk | astroturfing http://sdt.bz/61968 | Aug 01 21:37 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/31/exactly-how-bad-is-the-nintendo-situation | Aug 01 22:51 |
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