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sebsebsebhi jono_ good news for you!Aug 08 00:00
jono_sebsebseb, oh?Aug 08 00:08
sebsebsebjono_: yep  Ubuntu Edge is on 30 million dollers, so another 5 to go then!Aug 08 00:08
jono_sebsebseb, ?Aug 08 00:09
sebsebsebsomeone bought those big ordersAug 08 00:09
sebsebsebthe enterprise onesAug 08 00:09
jono_rightAug 08 00:09
jono_that was 8kAug 08 00:09
jono_80kAug 08 00:09
jono_anyway, gotta runAug 08 00:09
jono_laters!Aug 08 00:09
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sebsebsebhmm don't think he fell for it, was  worth a try though ! :DAug 08 00:10
*DaemonFC just bid on some more pie couponsAug 08 00:42
DaemonFCI've got a bunch of those in my freezer alreadyAug 08 00:43
DaemonFCI've been talking about PRISM and Microsoft a lot on Amazon Forums lately.Aug 08 00:46
DaemonFCSo far, three people have responded saying that I convinced them to switch to GNU/Linux.Aug 08 00:46
DaemonFCAll of them said it was Ubuntu and that they were very happy with it.Aug 08 00:46
DaemonFCI'm happy they're happy.Aug 08 00:46
DaemonFCschestowitz, I covered that Windows-only malware that the NSA deployed to unmask Tor users.Aug 08 00:47
DaemonFCI said it's no wonder they know exactly where to look for vulnerabilities in Windows, since Microsoft creates some just for them, and gives them information about others at least a month before they're patched.Aug 08 00:48
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DaemonFCI hope for Kubuntu's sake that they can manage to purge those Ubuntu patches to Qt.Aug 08 00:53
DaemonFCNot that that's all that's going wrong with Kubuntu, but it's at least a part of it.Aug 08 00:53
DaemonFCKwin's maintainer says he's getting flooded by crashes caused by Ubuntu's patches to Mesa.Aug 08 00:54
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would trust them with Mir.Aug 08 00:54
DaemonFCThe quality of the rest of their work is chewing gum and popsicle sticks.Aug 08 00:54
*DaemonFC mails jono some of his chewing gum and popsicle coupons.Aug 08 00:55
DaemonFCFor the cause. :)Aug 08 00:55
jonohey DaemonFCAug 08 00:55
jonohows it going?Aug 08 00:55
jonolong time no speak?Aug 08 00:55
DaemonFCIt's going....Aug 08 00:56
*DaemonFC just spent several hours cleaning.Aug 08 00:56
DaemonFCI don't know where this mess comes from.Aug 08 00:56
DaemonFCThere's only one of me.Aug 08 00:56
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sebsebsebjono: 30 million for UBuntu Edge awesome :D heh hehAug 08 01:30
sebsebsebmore seriouslyAug 08 01:30
sebsebseblooks like there won't be an Ubuntu EdgeAug 08 01:30
sebsebsebjono: I can't just  buy it at the moment either, since some Paypal issuesAug 08 01:31
sebsebsebtried to buy it before in fact, but nopeAug 08 01:31
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sebsebseboh ping timeouts, so he may have not got any of that I guess, ah wellAug 08 01:31
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: lolAug 08 01:57
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JimmyCarterhttp://rt.com/news/apple-patent-transmission-block-408/Aug 08 06:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No shooting at protest? Police may block mobile devices via Apple — RT News .::. Size~: 45.68 KBAug 08 06:45
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*DaemonFC reviewed the Swiffer Wetjet refills on Amazon.Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFC Too expensive. Refill yourself and save money., August 8, 2013 Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCThe cheapest that I could find the Swiffer Wetjet refills is $4 a bottle on Subscribe and Save.Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCThat seemed like a waste of money to me, so I got the cap off of an empty bottle and rinsed it out, then refilled it with about a quarter cup of AJAX concentrated orange-scented all purpose cleaner and water. You can find them in the cleaning chemical section at Dollar General, Family Dollar, Walmart, KMart, Kroger, etc.Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCYou can get AJAX multi-purpose cleaner for less than $2 a bottle. It will refill the 1.25 liter Swiffer bottle lots of times.Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCIn other words, you'll go through more than $150 on Swiffer solution for every $2 you spend on AJAX. It's no wonder that the Swiffer bottles are made to be hard to open and include a warning not to refill them.Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCWhat happens if you do? Are the Swiffer Police going to kick down your door?Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCDon't let the Swiffer clean out your wallet.Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCThere are also do it yourself guides online for how to make your own replaceable Swiffer pads, but for 30 cents each on S&S, I think I'd rather just throw the mess away. Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFC...Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCThey're like printer companies.Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCThey sell you the printer real cheap and then sell the refill cartridges for $30Aug 08 08:15
DaemonFCThe Swiffer company actually has a mail in rebate form where you can get a 100% rebate for the starter kit.Aug 08 08:19
DaemonFC"Give them the handle and sell them the blades."Aug 08 08:20
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iophkhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/11/justin-carter-facebook-teen-bail_n_3582251.htmlAug 08 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Justin Carter, Teen Jailed Over 'Terroristic' Facebook Comment, Out On Bail .::. Size~: 296.39 KBAug 08 09:13
iophk"Carter is out on bail as of Thursday, July 11, after his family received a $500,000 donation so they could make bail. The 19-year-old has been in jail since mid-February"Aug 08 09:13
iophk" Carter was offered a plea deal of eight years in prison that he rejected."Aug 08 09:13
iophkhttp://rt.com/usa/texas-teen-bailed-good-samaritan-985/Aug 08 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Good Samaritan' puts up 500K to free Texas teen facing prison time for Facebook post — RT USA .::. Size~: 44 KBAug 08 09:14
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iophkhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130807165626642Aug 08 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Apple, Motorola, ITC - Federal Circuit Remands - The Beat Goes On ~pj .::. Size~: 40.58 KBAug 08 09:41
iophkhttp://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2013/08/senators-ponder-if-bloggers-deserve-first-amendment-protection/Aug 08 09:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Senators ponder if bloggers deserve First Amendment protection .::. Size~: 28.37 KBAug 08 09:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928242 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928246 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928248Aug 08 10:03
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No shooting at protest? Police may block mobile devices via Apple http://rt.com/news/apple-patent-transmission-block-408/ #apple #patent #antifeature #oppressionAug 08 10:03
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: California and Denver Public Schools Bribed by Bill Gates to Promote His Privatisation Agenda http://techrights.org/2013/08/08/common-core-and-bribes/ #billgates #usAug 08 10:03
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Gates Foundation Expands to Africa to Profit From the World’s Poorest http://techrights.org/2013/08/08/occupying-africa/ #billgates #gmo #monsantoAug 08 10:03
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schestowitziophk: lucky for him he wasn't an ethinic minorityAug 08 10:04
schestowitzso he got donationsaAug 08 10:04
iophkThe RSS feed on the main page is still down.Aug 08 10:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928252Aug 08 10:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Senators ponder if bloggers deserve First Amendment protection http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2013/08/senators-ponder-if-bloggers-deserve-first-amendment-protection/http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2013/08/senators-ponder-if-bloggers-deserve-first-amendment-protection/ "wonder" and "ponder"Aug 08 10:09
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schestowitziophk: yes, I am hoping that somehow one day I'll find time and a way to fix itAug 08 10:10
schestowitzeven the redirections still don't work properlyAug 08 10:10
iophkokAug 08 10:10
schestowitzbut there appears to be no penalty in Google, none that's apparentAug 08 10:10
schestowitzso many hours already spent on this in vainAug 08 10:10
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iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-keeps-censoring-pirate-bay-documentary-director-outraged-130807/Aug 08 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hollywood Keeps Censoring Pirate Bay Documentary, Director Outraged | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 97.13 KBAug 08 11:08
iophkhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2287635/enterprise-drops-usd80-000-on-crowdfunded-ubuntu-edge-smartphonesAug 08 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Enterprise drops $80,000 on crowdfunded Ubuntu Edge smartphones- The Inquirer .::. Size~: 62.11 KBAug 08 11:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928548 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928575 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928675 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928679 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928691 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928695Aug 08 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Enterprise drops $80,000 on crowdfunded Ubuntu Edge smartphones http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2287635/enterprise-drops-usd80-000-on-crowdfunded-ubuntu-edge-smartphones #canonical #ubuntuAug 08 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hollywood Keeps Censoring Pirate Bay Documentary, Director Outraged  http://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-keeps-censoring-pirate-bay-documentary-director-outraged-130807/ #hollywood #censorship #tpbAug 08 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Moto X Bet http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2013/08/06/the-moto-x-bet/ #android #linux #motorolaAug 08 13:18
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Performance Penalty Of Xfce/Xubuntu On XMir http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQyOTY #xfce #xubuntu #gnu #linuxAug 08 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: [Phoronix] The Performance Penalty Of Xfce/Xubuntu On XMir .::. Size~: 23.42 KBAug 08 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Review: Linux Mint 15 "Olivia" KDE + Xfce  http://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/review-linux-mint-15-olivia-kde-xfce.html #xfce #kde #linuxmintAug 08 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Linux Mint 15 "Olivia" KDE + Xfce .::. Size~: 93.67 KBAug 08 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stellarium 0.12.2 released!  http://worldofgnome.org/stellarium-0-12-2-released/ #Stellarium a powerful, neat, educational applicationAug 08 13:18
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928710  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928717 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928719 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928723 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928726 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928728Aug 08 13:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Red Hatters Build Lantern of Food for Charity http://ostatic.com/blog/red-hatters-build-lantern-of-food-for-charity #redhat #gnu #linuxAug 08 13:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UberStudent Pushes Users to the Head of the Class http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/UberStudent-Pushes-Users-to-the-Head-of-the-Class-78663.html #ubuntu #gnu #linuxAug 08 13:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is This Finally the Year of Open Source...in China?  http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2013/08/is-this-finally-the-year-of-open-sourcein-china/index.htm #freedom #china #freeswAug 08 13:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Is This Finally the Year of Open Source...in China? - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 89.59 KBAug 08 13:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The blink tag is finally dead, killed off by #Firefox 23 http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046054/the-blink-tag-is-finally-dead-killed-off-by-firefox-23.html http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/firefox-23-lands-with-a-new-logo-and-mixed-content-blocking/Aug 08 13:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: The blink tag is finally dead, killed off by Firefox 23 | PCWorld .::. Size~: 71.12 KBAug 08 13:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Top 10 Open Source Linux Boards Under $200 http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/732197-top-10-open-source-linux-boards-under-200 #linuxAug 08 13:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My Return to Xubuntu: A Review http://www.mylinuxrig.com/post/57612670230/my-return-to-xubuntu-a-review #xfce #gnu #linux #xubuntuAug 08 13:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928734  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928744 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928750Aug 08 13:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Apache OpenOffice 4 vs. LibreOffice 4.1 http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/523078/apache_openoffice_4_vs_libreoffice_4_1/ #libreoffice #openoffice #odf #tdf #apacheAug 08 13:20
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ted Koppel and Terrorism http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/08/07/ted-koppel-and-terrorism/ "unprovoked military attacks on another country is not terrorism."Aug 08 13:20
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: First batch of videos from #LibrePlanet 2013 published! http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/first-batch-of-videos-from-libreplanet-2013-published #fsfAug 08 13:20
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: First batch of videos from LibrePlanet 2013 published!  — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 35.39 KBAug 08 13:20
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sebsebseb Aug 08 13:27
qu1j0t3sebsebseb: holaAug 08 13:28
sebsebsebqu1j0t3: hiAug 08 13:29
s-089@wikileaks     FAIR: Amazon, WikiLeaks, the Washington PostAug 08 13:32
s-089               and the CIA http://t.co/kRmZRNm7rQAug 08 13:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@wikileaks: FAIR: Amazon, WikiLeaks, the Washington Post and the CIA http://t.co/kRmZRNm7rQAug 08 13:32
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: looks like TRBot wasn't upgraded?Aug 08 13:34
s-089@davidgerard   Remember the reason for the season: August 8thAug 08 13:34
s-089               is the International Day of the Female Orgasm.Aug 08 13:34
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TechrightsBot-tr@davidgerard: Remember the reason for the season: August 8th is the International Day of the Female Orgasm. http://t.co/JWtfJkdgvyAug 08 13:34
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s-089@schestowitz   $5 8 GB SD card with NOOBS for Raspberry Pi nowAug 08 13:37
s-089               available  http://t.co/Uo90AglGkO #raspbiAug 08 13:37
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: $5 8 GB SD card with NOOBS for Raspberry Pi now available  http://t.co/Uo90AglGkO #raspbi #linuxAug 08 13:37
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s-089@ggreenwald    Imprison those who made us know this!! RTAug 08 13:39
s-089 retweeted by  @nprnews Report: NSA Is Searching 'VastAug 08 13:39
s-089 @qu1j0t3      Amounts' Of Americans' EmailsAug 08 13:39
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TechrightsBot-tr@qu1j0t3: RT @ggreenwald: Imprison those who made us know this!! RT @nprnews Report: NSA Is Searching 'Vast Amounts' Of Americans' Emails http://t.co…Aug 08 13:39
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928817Aug 08 13:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did Qualcomm force Android’s open source project head to quit?  http://www.muktware.com/5820/did-qualcomm-force-android%E2%80%99s-open-source-project-head-quit #android #linux #qualcommAug 08 13:59
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schestowitz"The link is bad ...."Aug 08 13:59
schestowitzhttp://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=madness_indeed_the_tech_community_has_a&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1Aug 08 14:01
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iophkhttp://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2287682/bloomberg-backs-ubuntu-edge-project-with-usd80-000-pledge-but-may-not-reach-usd32m-goalAug 08 14:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bloomberg backs Ubuntu Edge project with $80,000 pledge but may not reach $32m goal - IT News from V3.co.uk .::. Size~: 99.75 KBAug 08 14:12
sebsebsebiophk: oh that's quite a bitAug 08 14:13
iophkIt's for a bundle of 100 phones at once.Aug 08 14:15
iophkStill good news though.Aug 08 14:16
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sebsebsebiophk: yes yes, but it looks like hardly anything in the actsual number of paymentsAug 08 14:23
sebsebsebiophk: they need more companies like that to back itAug 08 14:23
sebsebsebor it's so going to fail I ThinkAug 08 14:23
iophkIt will be close.  But more companies would definitely help it along.Aug 08 14:24
sebsebsebjono: wooo 10 million now for the Edge :D heh hehAug 08 14:24
jonosebsebseb, why do you keep doing this?Aug 08 14:24
sebsebsebjono: joking with you a bit :)  Aug 08 14:24
sebsebsebiophk: how much marketing is out there for the edge really?Aug 08 14:25
sebsebsebmore marking could help toAug 08 14:25
iophkI wouldn't know.  I think it is picked up word of mouth aside from a few articles.  Everyone wants to watch the progress.Aug 08 14:26
sebsebsebB BC had something and I think Guaridan or something toAug 08 14:26
sebsebseb,but  other than word of mouth marketing, I think it's quite lacking probably reallyAug 08 14:26
sebsebsebiophk: I think this shows also that the Ubuntu Community etc isn't quite big enough yet to raise 32 millionAug 08 14:26
sebsebsebdollersAug 08 14:27
iophkBloomberg is outside the community.  More can come from outside, as they join.Aug 08 14:27
sebsebsebplus most people are cheap etc,  hence the  cheaper one selling out, but not the other one for $5 more, the pledge I mean, people go for the cheaper one usauly first, that's what I mean,  even  if the more expensives aren't much moreAug 08 14:27
sebsebsebiophk: I can't buy it at the moment myself, since Paypal verification issuesAug 08 14:28
iophkPaypal is a liability IMHO if they want to reach the larger audience.Aug 08 14:28
sebsebsebiophk: didn't put in verifiation codes or amounts before, and  well need to nowAug 08 14:29
sebsebsebif going to have any chance at buying Ubuntu Edge or whateverAug 08 14:29
sebsebsebiophk: yes nice to have differnet payment options like Humble Bundle do :dAug 08 14:29
sebsebsebmay not want to do Bitcoin for the Edge though :DAug 08 14:29
sebsebsebanyway it's since the company doing the crowd fudning apparnatly why it's Paypal onlyAug 08 14:29
iophkbitcoin has a wonky exchange rateAug 08 14:29
sebsebsebBitcoin would be kind of useless right now surelyAug 08 14:30
sebsebsebto fund such a deviceAug 08 14:30
sebsebsebok so we got all this money, but it's in kind of token type money uhmm will you accept this,  company we want hardare fromAug 08 14:30
sebsebsebUH No not yet, that's not really established yet, in fact what we just heard of Bitcoin uh what the whatAug 08 14:30
sebsebsebwhat is that?Aug 08 14:30
sebsebsebiophk: see what I mean?Aug 08 14:31
sebsebsebnot everyone see's it as a real currency etc yetAug 08 14:31
sebsebsebmany people don't in factAug 08 14:31
sebsebsebiophk: I thought I would have issues re newing my Linux FOundation membershiop today, since that uses Pay Pal, but no problem, it auto re newed :)Aug 08 14:32
iophkbitcoin is accepted as a currency by the US now : http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/federal-judge-bitcoin-a-currency-can-be-regulated-under-american-law/Aug 08 14:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Federal judge: Bitcoin, “a currency,” can be regulated under American law | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 38.73 KBAug 08 14:32
sebsebsebiophk: oh that's a new linkAug 08 14:32
sebsebseb,but that will mean no Bitcon for online gambling in the US?Aug 08 14:32
iophkMaybe but for the time being no Edge for you via bitcoin.Aug 08 14:33
sebsebsebiophk: I  don't use BItconAug 08 14:36
sebsebsebknow a guy online all into it thoughAug 08 14:36
sebsebsebiophk: anyway that article yeah, Bitcoin is used instead of real moneyhAug 08 14:37
sebsebsebso is money to reallyAug 08 14:37
sebsebsebor can beAug 08 14:37
sebsebsebcan use instead of standard cash etcAug 08 14:37
sebsebsebiophk: and the guy did something ilegal really,  or would have been for sure with standard money, so they go after him, and whateverAug 08 14:37
sebsebsebhe did a Bitcon con basicalyAug 08 14:37
sebsebsebBitcoin aboveAug 08 14:38
iophkthere have been one or two ponzi schemes so farAug 08 14:38
iophkmining is not worth the effort any moreAug 08 14:38
sebsebsebwhat does ponzi mean though?Aug 08 14:38
iophkit's a specific scamAug 08 14:39
iophkuse newcomer's money to pay older investorsAug 08 14:39
iophkso it looks like growthAug 08 14:39
sebsebsebohAug 08 14:39
iophkthe people early in actually get a return on their investment, butAug 08 14:40
iophkat some time those running the scheme take the money and runAug 08 14:40
iophkso those that came later, especially those at the end, lose whatever they put inAug 08 14:40
sebsebsebiophk: someone  know rather well, fell victum to some scheme, and lost loads of moneyAug 08 14:40
sebsebsebthey were going to invest itAug 08 14:41
sebsebseb,but instead went off with itAug 08 14:41
iophkhttps://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htmAug 08 14:41
sebsebsebinvest into land in BrazilAug 08 14:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "Ponzi" Schemes .::. Size~: 15.86 KBAug 08 14:41
sebsebseband did to loads of peopleAug 08 14:41
sebsebsebiophk: not sure if same kind of thing, but anwyayAug 08 14:41
sebsebsebiophk: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-edge-lowers-price-again-now-fixed-at-695Aug 08 14:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Edge Price Lowered Again, Now Fixed At $695 | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 50.46 KBAug 08 14:50
sebsebsebhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-edge-lowers-price-again-now-fixed-at-695Aug 08 14:50
iophkyes through the duration of the campaign it saysAug 08 14:50
iophkThe M$ run media still spins it as a negative Aug 08 14:51
sebsebsebiophk: seems it's starting to sell well at the new priceAug 08 15:00
sebsebsebiophk: also that's a much better price :)Aug 08 15:01
sebsebsebpaying over £500 is a lot for itAug 08 15:01
sebsebseb,but now it's under so :dAug 08 15:01
sebsebseband by quite a bitAug 08 15:01
sebsebsebstill quite a lot, but a good priceAug 08 15:01
sebsebsebphones are expensive, computers are expensiveAug 08 15:01
sebsebsebjono: should work with like any sim card, the edge yeah?Aug 08 15:01
schestowitziophk: yeahAug 08 15:18
schestowitzSome ZDNet anti-FOSSersAug 08 15:18
schestowitzSeen earlierAug 08 15:18
schestowitzI ignore themAug 08 15:18
iophkThey're filling the space / quota for real articles, unfortunately.Aug 08 15:18
schestowitzyeah, in Google News it gets clusteredAug 08 15:19
schestowitzwith clickthrough as parentAug 08 15:19
iophkThat's where the problem gets really bad.Aug 08 15:19
schestowitzSo often you find the negative flamebait as leadingAug 08 15:19
iophkThe negative articles gather thereAug 08 15:19
iophkThe positive ones do not show up.Aug 08 15:19
schestowitzand the usual calm reporting just clustered out of site or in small fonts, or not in RSS feeds at allAug 08 15:19
iophkAnd both are drowned in M$  Nokia spam.Aug 08 15:19
schestowitzjono might notice thatAug 08 15:19
schestowitzI didn't badmouth EdgeAug 08 15:20
schestowitzI think it's important to support stuff like that, but proprietary zealoits don't agreeAug 08 15:20
iophkIt can do two big things.Aug 08 15:20
schestowitzinnovation is one, freedom anotherAug 08 15:20
iophkOne is it makes what looks like a realy sweet device that is a plug-in desktopAug 08 15:20
iophkThe other is that it could change how devices are developed.Aug 08 15:21
schestowitzit also introduces users to GNU/LinuxAug 08 15:21
iophkYes, that's why Google News has to hide it.Aug 08 15:21
schestowitzright, it mightAug 08 15:21
iophkCan't let that news about Gnu/Linux get out or people might try it.Aug 08 15:21
schestowitzwith Tegra a lot of smartphones and talets are as powerful as yesteryear's desktopsAug 08 15:21
schestowitzNo, Google News isn 't the problemAug 08 15:22
schestowitzIt's being gamesAug 08 15:22
schestowitzIt's an automated thing, I think truly autonomous now with no human editorsAug 08 15:22
schestowitzbut it can be manipulated by Android foesAug 08 15:22
iophkIt's gamed well Aug 08 15:22
schestowitzEdge is good for AndroidAug 08 15:22
schestowitzit dual boots with AndroidAug 08 15:22
schestowitzand brings Android nearer to desktopsAug 08 15:22
schestowitzGoogle has no direct equiv. right nowAug 08 15:23
schestowitzit was the same when ODF gained good pressAug 08 15:23
iophkyes, but Google seems not to support ODF that much anymoreAug 08 15:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928765  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928789 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928794 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928807Aug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: gNewSense 3.0 released  http://www.muktware.com/5821/gnewsense-30-released #gNewSense #gnu #linuxAug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: gNewSense 3.0 released | Muktware .::. Size~: 61.08 KBAug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: $5 8 GB SD card with NOOBS for Raspberry Pi now available  http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/5-8-gb-sd-card-with-noobs-for-raspberry-pi-now-available #raspbi #linuxAug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: $5 8 GB SD card with NOOBS for Raspberry Pi now available | Linux User .::. Size~: 50.67 KBAug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Getting lyrics in #Sonata under Ubuntu http://bostonpeng.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/getting-lyrics-in-sonata-under-ubuntu/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxAug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Getting lyrics in Sonata under Ubuntu | Tux + Me .::. Size~: 84.29 KBAug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Alpine 2.6.3 released http://alpinelinux.org/release-2.6.3 #alpine #gnu #linuxAug 08 15:25
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Alpine 2.6.3 released | Alpine Linux .::. Size~: 15.1 KBAug 08 15:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928817 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928832  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928836Aug 08 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did Qualcomm force Android’s open source project head to quit?  http://www.muktware.com/5820/did-qualcomm-force-android%E2%80%99s-open-source-project-head-quit #android #linux #qualcommAug 08 15:26
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android Candy: Hire a Cerberus to Find Your Phone http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/android-candy-hire-cerberus-find-your-phone #android #linuxAug 08 15:26
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mozilla and Bango Bring Phone Bill-based Payments to Firefox OS Users http://ostatic.com/blog/mozilla-and-bango-bring-phone-bill-based-payments-to-firefox-os-users #mozilla #firefoxAug 08 15:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928844 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928895 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928929 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928929 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929043 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929049Aug 08 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Open source is not about you, it's about us, all of us." "http://ostatic.com/blog/for-the-greater-goodAug 08 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: For The Greater Good .::. Size~: 34.6 KBAug 08 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open-Source Apache Flex Finally Comes to Linux http://www.eweek.com/developer/open-source-apache-flex-finally-comes-to-linux #opensource #apache  #gnu #linuxAug 08 15:26
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What To Expect From Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie!   http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=112922 #android #linuxAug 08 15:26
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mac Pro https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_714ff0dd8a0a77d5e787.gifAug 08 15:27
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/octet-stream typeAug 08 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So now it turns out that so-called “smart” meters are part of #nsa #prism - which means they're #surveillance devices in people's homes.Aug 08 15:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928889Aug 08 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Poised for Innovation Explosion http://www.networkcomputing.com/storage-networking-management/open-source-poised-for-innovation-explos/240159543 #opensource #innovationAug 08 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Open Source Poised for Innovation Explosion - Network Computing .::. Size~: 93.75 KBAug 08 15:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929057 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929079 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929079 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929158Aug 08 15:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Japan says Fukushima leak worse than thought  http://preview.reuters.com/2013/8/7/fukushima-plant-operator-cannot-confirm-volume-of #japan #ge #cancer #tepcoAug 08 15:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Reuters Next — Japan says Fukushima leak worse than thought .::. Size~: 85.84 KBAug 08 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firefox easily outperforms Chrome with many tabs open  http://www.geek.com/news/firefox-easily-outperforms-chrome-with-many-tabs-open-1409183/  #chrome also messes up the swap fileAug 08 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Firefox easily outperforms Chrome with many tabs open | News | Geek.com .::. Size~: 75.53 KBAug 08 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Edge Price Lowered Again, Now Fixed At $695 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-edge-lowers-price-again-now-fixed-at-695 #ubuntu #linux #android #gnuAug 08 15:29
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929063Aug 08 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu booster site called #bloomberg "revered US-based financial information  & news service." Really?! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/bloomberg-pledges-80k-to-ubuntu-edge-campaignAug 08 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Bloomberg Pledge $80,000 to Ubuntu Edge Campaign .::. Size~: 49.99 KBAug 08 15:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928817Aug 08 15:35
schestowitz"try this or this"Aug 08 15:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929049Aug 08 15:36
schestowitznow THIS is something virtually NO ONE could foresee !!!1!"Aug 08 15:37
schestowitzI would be more surprised if they had tiny microphones mounted on the meters.Aug 08 15:37
schestowitz"such a shame, since smart metering seems to be a nice technology to lower high usage peaks in an energy network and btw save money to its users."Aug 08 15:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929057Aug 08 15:38
schestowitz"everything under control, no risk!!1! Well, no risk, right as it is here in germany. They say "no risk" and even though such an earthquake is not likely politicians seem not able to imagine that someone steers a plane into a nuclear plant. To me such terrorism is rather likely to happen than unlikely ..."Aug 08 15:38
schestowitzDirty bomb made by a large corporations is labelled "natural disaster"Aug 08 15:39
schestowitzDan Goodin  http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/08/hand-of-thief-banking-trojan-doesnt-do-windows-but-it-does-linux/Aug 08 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “Hand of Thief” banking trojan doesn’t do Windows—but it does Linux | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 47.92 KBAug 08 15:42
schestowitzhe did similar type of covergae in The RegisterAug 08 15:42
schestowitzhttp://threatpost.com/questions-linger-about-new-linux-hand-of-thief-trojanAug 08 15:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Questions Linger About New Linux ‘Hand of Thief’ Trojan  | Threatpost .::. Size~: 69.82 KBAug 08 15:42
iophkSomething for the Edge not to emulate: http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=19892&news=windows+phone+8+bricked+htc+8x+nokia+lumia+920+microsoft+brickingAug 08 16:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BLOG: What's With The Bricked Windows Phones? .::. Size~: 77.53 KBAug 08 16:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2926149Aug 08 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Using Windows With TOR is Like Wearing Makeup to Dodge CCTV http://techrights.org/2013/08/07/windows-with-tor/ #cctv #tor #windows #anonymousAug 08 16:33
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schestowitz"Link to the Diaspora post, if you want to fave it or reshare it: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2918595 "Aug 08 16:33
TechrightsBot-tr@pixelhack@diasp.org: <center> <h2>The exploit of Tor by JavaScript</h2> <p></b>Who were affected?</b></p> <p><ul> <li>Window Users</li> <li>People who enabled JavaScript</li> <li>Used the Tor Browser Bundle</li></ul></p> <p><b>~Windows~</p></b> <p> Most of the users were windows users, I'm not claiming that Linux or Gnu|linux users are superior but to be more accurate, some windows users don't have the mentality of security or common sense Aug 08 16:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2928242Aug 08 16:39
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No shooting at protest? Police may block mobile devices via Apple http://rt.com/news/apple-patent-transmission-block-408/ #apple #patent #antifeature #oppressionAug 08 16:39
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schestowitz"Another reason to choose android over iOS."Aug 08 16:39
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DaemonFCMinceR, Do you have key lime pie in Hungaristan?Aug 08 21:07
MinceRi doubt itAug 08 21:08
DaemonFCI suggest making one. Best breakfast ever.Aug 08 21:08
DaemonFCServe with black coffee.Aug 08 21:08
DaemonFC:)Aug 08 21:08
MinceRmy cooking skills stop at making hot water for tea.Aug 08 21:08
DaemonFCWell, they sell frozen ones at most supermarkets here.Aug 08 21:08
DaemonFCI've made them from scratch and  they turned out about the same as just buying one.Aug 08 21:09
DaemonFCIt's quite a bit cheaper to make your own, but it's the usual time+effort+mess trade off.Aug 08 21:09
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929049Aug 08 22:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So now it turns out that so-called “smart” meters are part of #nsa #prism - which means they're #surveillance devices in people's homes.Aug 08 22:28
schestowitz"where did you read that?"Aug 08 22:28
schestowitz"{Is [object] being used to spy on you?; {IF [object] is connected to the Internet, echo "yes"; {IF [object] is NOT connected to the Internet, echo "check for bugs";}}"Aug 08 22:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929158Aug 08 22:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Edge Price Lowered Again, Now Fixed At $695 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/ubuntu-edge-lowers-price-again-now-fixed-at-695 #ubuntu #linux #android #gnuAug 08 22:29
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schestowitz"well, they need only come up with 1.7M/day for the next 14 days..."Aug 08 22:29
schestowitz"fortunately (or not), they need only generate 1.7M/day - for the next 14 days..."Aug 08 22:30
schestowitz"I don't see that happen, but they might have a trick up their sleeve to make it work."Aug 08 22:30
schestowitzEven if they don't met the target it'll go ahead, so anything which raises some money is a success. The goal is self-set.Aug 08 22:30
DaemonFCMom dropped off an entire bag of coupon inserts.Aug 08 22:31
DaemonFCJackpot!Aug 08 22:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929246 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929255 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929273 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929310 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929313 https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929332Aug 08 22:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dirty bomb made by a large corporation is labelled "natural disaster". #japan #tepco #geAug 08 22:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: STMicro simplifies connection to Linux Systems http://evertiq.com/design/29418 #linux  #STMicroAug 08 22:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Android beating Apple in the tablet market? http://www.itworld.com/open-source/368115/android-beating-apple-tablet-market #android #linuxAug 08 22:32
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Is Android beating Apple in the tablet market? | ITworld .::. Size~: 112.24 KBAug 08 22:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open-Source SDR Board Uses Programmable Radio IC http://electronicdesign.com/communications/open-source-sdr-board-uses-programmable-radio-ic #openhardware #freedomAug 08 22:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The good, the bad and the ugly of #NHS #opensource adoption http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2013/08/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-nhs-open-source-adoption.html #egovAug 08 22:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Space station poised to launch open-source satellites http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24008-space-station-poised-to-launch-opensource-satellites.html #space #freedom #sharingAug 08 22:32
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929340   https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2929373Aug 08 22:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free/libre code comes out of #android vendors http://www.androidos.in/2013/08/nvidia-posts-shield-factory-image-open-source-files/ ttp://www.androidpolice.com/2013/08/05/sony-releases-open-source-files-for-the-gigantic-xperia-z-ultra/ #linuxAug 08 22:33
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A First Look at Pear OS 8's Welcome Screen http://news.softpedia.com/news/A-First-Look-at-Pear-OS-8-s-Welcome-Screen-373718.shtml #pearos #gnu #linuxAug 08 22:33
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s-175@schestowitz   The US under #obama is a lawless countryAug 08 23:43
s-175               http://t.co/d3YRmGrVbW law? Naaa...Aug 08 23:43
s-175               Constitutional lawyer/president changes it atAug 08 23:43
s-175               will.Aug 08 23:43
s-175........................................  http://ur1.ca/eyoftAug 08 23:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The US under #obama is a lawless country http://t.co/d3YRmGrVbW law? Naaa... Constitutional lawyer/president changes it at will.Aug 08 23:43
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JimmyCarterdunno why he specifies "under obama" Aug 08 23:43
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qu1j0t3JimmyCarter: rightAug 08 23:43
qu1j0t3"more lawless" might workAug 08 23:43
qu1j0t3"even more lawless"Aug 08 23:44
JimmyCarteri think perhaps law and order bottomed out at 0 around 9/11Aug 08 23:46
JimmyCartercan't really get more lawlessAug 08 23:46
JimmyCarternegative law and order doesnt make sense to meAug 08 23:46
qu1j0t3Nixon/Kissinger was a bit of a low pointAug 08 23:47
JimmyCarteri would say even packing debtors into fema camps, would be more evil, but equally lawless Aug 08 23:48
JimmyCarteryeah perhaps weve been lawless since ww2Aug 08 23:50
JimmyCarteror since foreverAug 08 23:51
JimmyCarteri cant think of a time "law" hasnt been selectively appliedAug 08 23:52
JimmyCartermy original comments were more about the "illusion of law" which is what most people mean by "law"Aug 08 23:54
JimmyCarteror used toAug 08 23:54
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