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| tilla | hello | Aug 14 00:35 |
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| tilla | iam windows user looking to switch to linux any suggestion pls? | Aug 14 00:36 |
| tilla | What is Unix, Linux, Ubuntu? Are they the same thing or different versions or completely different stuff? This has always made me confused, any explanation would be great. | Aug 14 00:36 |
| tilla | ad now i read about suse linux and microsoft | Aug 14 00:37 |
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| sebsebseb | ah missed them | Aug 14 00:44 |
| sebsebseb | and this channel isn't usauuy used for support | Aug 14 00:44 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm up to Season 4 Episode 2. | Aug 14 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | That was one of my favorites. | Aug 14 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | (SG-1) | Aug 14 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/The_Other_Side | Aug 14 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | stargate.wikia.com | The Other Side - Stargate Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/f1u79 ] | Aug 14 08:16 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 14 08:42 |
| iophk | spin: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046556/microsofts-surface-rt-snafu-prompts-shareholder-suit.html | Aug 14 08:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Microsoft's Surface RT snafu prompts shareholder suit | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/f1ul3 ] | Aug 14 08:51 |
| iophk | Pogson covered it yesterday. M$ got caught lying to the SEC | Aug 14 08:51 |
| iophk | PCWorld is trying to cover for them now. | Aug 14 08:51 |
| iophk | * not to the SEC but to the investors | Aug 14 08:57 |
| iophk | http://mrpogson.com/2013/08/13/m-in-deep-hot-water/ | Aug 14 08:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mrpogson.com | M$ In Deep Hot Water | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/f1gr6 ] | Aug 14 08:58 |
| schestowitz | iophk: Katherine http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/1-Small-App-1-Giant-Feather-in-Linuxs-Cap-78705.html | Aug 14 08:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.linuxinsider.com | 1 Small App, 1 Giant Feather in Linux's Cap | Community | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/f1uo9 ] | Aug 14 08:59 |
| schestowitz | she also works for IDG | Aug 14 08:59 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I can see your point e IDG | Aug 14 08:59 |
| schestowitz | That article is very promotional | Aug 14 08:59 |
| schestowitz | citing some shill 'reviews' of the Surface | Aug 14 08:59 |
| schestowitz | and downplaying the lawsuit | Aug 14 08:59 |
| iophk | She's repeating the myth that M$ has released an app native to linux. | Aug 14 09:01 |
| iophk | It's not true. | Aug 14 09:01 |
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| iophk | Web apps don't count. If they're not cross-platform, then they are not web apps. If they are web apps they are cross platform by defninition. | Aug 14 09:01 |
| iophk | What' still missing is a local, client native to Linux that does not need WINE or the Web to run. | Aug 14 09:02 |
| iophk | Linux will win when M$ proprietary office format is no longer relevant. | Aug 14 09:03 |
| iophk | That could come soon, if Google and the others put their back into ODF. | Aug 14 09:03 |
| MinceR | google isn't doing that, though | Aug 14 09:04 |
| iophk | No, they stopped. | Aug 14 09:04 |
| iophk | It could be because they have taken on too many M$ retreads. | Aug 14 09:04 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 14 09:04 |
| MinceR | OOXML is still the first item under File/Download as in google drive | Aug 14 09:06 |
| MinceR | just checked | Aug 14 09:06 |
| iophk | Real OOXML or the vaguely similar format .docx (version whatever) | Aug 14 09:06 |
| iophk | ? | Aug 14 09:06 |
| MinceR | something google calls "Microsoft Word (.docx)" | Aug 14 09:07 |
| iophk | From what I remember the 6000+ page specification for OOXML was not only too complex to implement but very incomplete in areas. | Aug 14 09:07 |
| iophk | So it would not be possible for any company, even the large ones, to spend enough resources to implement it. T | Aug 14 09:07 |
| iophk | The specs are not complete even at 6000 pages | Aug 14 09:07 |
| MinceR | google's implementation is more likely to follow the "specification" than m$'s implementation | Aug 14 09:08 |
| iophk | Yeah. .docx is not OOXML though M$ likes to cultivate confusion in that regard. | Aug 14 09:08 |
| MinceR | since the latter is probably not accessible to them | Aug 14 09:08 |
| MinceR | the general term for the various application-specific formats (.docx, .xlsx, .pptx, ...) would still be OOXML, afaict | Aug 14 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Google Docs, IIRC, was an acquisition of a Microsoft-oriented company around 2006 | Aug 14 09:09 |
| MinceR | even then, it was a competitor to m$ | Aug 14 09:10 |
| MinceR | so they would have received rough treatment from m$ anyway | Aug 14 09:10 |
| schestowitz | "Google Docs originated from two separate products, Writely and Google Spreadsheets." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Docs | Aug 14 09:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Google Docs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/f1usi ] | Aug 14 09:10 |
| iophk | OOXML referred to a specific faux standard ISO/IEC 29500, ECMA 376 | Aug 14 09:11 |
| MinceR | that explains why it calls itself "writely" in the URL | Aug 14 09:11 |
| schestowitz | "Writely was a web-based word processor created by the software company Upstartle and launched in August 2005.[7] It began as an experiment by programmer Sam Schillace - who had previously worked on FullWrite and Claris Home Page -, trying out the then new Ajax technology and the "content editable" function in browsers. " | Aug 14 09:11 |
| schestowitz | No article in Wikipedia about this companuy | Aug 14 09:11 |
| iophk | The name Office Open XML was to google-jam Open Office which was gaining ground at the time. | Aug 14 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Aug 14 09:12 | |
| schestowitz | October 8, 2006 | Aug 14 09:12 |
| MinceR | i know | Aug 14 09:12 |
| schestowitz | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/writely-online-word-processor/ | Aug 14 09:12 |
| iophk | Suddenly searches for "Open Office" also turned up hits for OOXML and related noise | Aug 14 09:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.makeuseof.com | Writely - Online Word Processor [ http://ur1.ca/f1usx ] | Aug 14 09:12 |
| schestowitz | IIRC it used MS technologies, but I can' find a reference, it was a long time ago | Aug 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz | I think I saw Scoble gloating about this at the time (he worked for Microsoft) | Aug 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Point is, some of the same people might be running Docs at Google | Aug 14 09:13 |
| schestowitz | They don't have a history of pro-FOSS, their software was never FOSS, just AJAX | Aug 14 09:14 |
| schestowitz | and .NET-based or something | Aug 14 09:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2950432 | Aug 14 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Metro: Last Light is Coming to Linux http://techgage.com/news/metro-last-light-is-coming-to-linux/ | Aug 14 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techgage.com | Metro: Last Light is Coming to Linux – Techgage [ http://ur1.ca/f1utu ] | Aug 14 09:14 |
| schestowitz | "Is this real? No joke? No 1st April fool in mid August?" | Aug 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz | I saw a second article about it later on... | Aug 14 09:15 |
| iophk | https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241612/Microsoft_Patch_Tuesday_The_Ping_of_Death_returns_IPv6_style?taxonomyId=85&pageNumber=2 | Aug 14 09:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.computerworld.com | Microsoft Patch Tuesday: The Ping of Death returns, IPv6-style - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/f1uv5 ] | Aug 14 09:18 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2950457 | Aug 14 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Fedora Linux Set to Build Agile Core http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/fedora-linux-set-to-build-agile-core/ | Aug 14 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Fedora Linux Set to Build Agile Core [ http://ur1.ca/f1uwg ] | Aug 14 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | I might go do some grocery shopping. | Aug 14 09:22 |
| schestowitz | So #Fedora wants to build small core and create rings (name them core, extra and community for now). The idea is to ship smaller system that can be expanded to meet user's needs? | Aug 14 09:22 |
| schestowitz | If I got this right then why not just go the #Arch way? I'm saying this as a former Fedora user (my first distro, I still have some feelings for it). | Aug 14 09:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 14 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | One of the cashiers at Walmart thought I was bullshitting her because I had the prices of a few dozen items memorized and was quoting them without reading the ads. | Aug 14 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | So she went all the way to the customer service desk, got a stack of ads, and verified everything. | Aug 14 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | I've always had this ability to remember numbers, even long sequences of them. | Aug 14 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's funny, because I'll go to a store without my shopper's card and punch them in on the keypad. | Aug 14 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | My Walgreens card has 26 digits on it. | Aug 14 09:24 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/why-ubuntus-creator-still-invests-his-fortune-in-an-unprofitable-company/ | Aug 14 09:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Why Ubuntu’s creator still invests his fortune in an unprofitable company | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/f1uxu ] | Aug 14 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | It makes enough money that the loss is small. | Aug 14 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | As long as it gets closer to break even each year, he can justify making up the difference in the hopes that it eventually turns a profit and keeps growing. | Aug 14 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's the middle of August and the weather has been much like spring. | Aug 14 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | Higher rainfall than usual. | Aug 14 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | The price of corn-based foods will likely decrease. | Aug 14 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | Unless the government steps in to help them keep prices high. | Aug 14 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | It does that sometimes. | Aug 14 09:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2950432 | Aug 14 09:48 |
| schestowitz | "So this is gonna happen.. Nice :)" | Aug 14 09:48 |
| schestowitz | "And it was more a rhetorical question ;)" | Aug 14 09:48 |
| schestowitz | iophk: that article from Ars is from a promoter of Microsoft | Aug 14 09:49 |
| schestowitz | But he has been reforming somewhat | Aug 14 09:49 |
| schestowitz | Over the past few years | Aug 14 09:49 |
| schestowitz | I had some arguments with him over his older bias | Aug 14 09:49 |
| iophk | It seems that those that are not M$ boosters have been culled from most media. | Aug 14 09:51 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: this one is fairly harmless now | Aug 14 10:14 |
| schestowitz | years ago he helpd Microsoft infiltrate FOSS | Aug 14 10:14 |
| iophk | Which method or projects did he affect? | Aug 14 10:23 |
| schestowitz | iophk: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/08/14/0429255/bill-gates-seeking-patent-to-make-shakespeare-less-boring | Aug 14 10:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yro.slashdot.org | Bill Gates Seeking Patent To Make Shakespeare Less Boring - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/f1voe ] | Aug 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | just in.. | Aug 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Nathan and Bill | Aug 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | boosted by the site of Todd Bishop again | Aug 14 10:25 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <schestowitz> GeekWire | Aug 14 10:29 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <schestowitz> The Microsoft booster | Aug 14 10:29 |
| schestowitz | [10:24] <schestowitz> "GeekWire reports that Bill Gates and Nathan Myhrvold are seeking a patent on making textbooks less boring " | Aug 14 10:29 |
| *schestowitz prepares a draft, open for quotes on this | Aug 14 10:29 | |
| iophk | I can't think of any good links at the moment | Aug 14 10:32 |
| *eebrah is now known as eebrah|away | Aug 14 10:51 | |
| DaemonFC | The farm supply store had a sale on the cat food that Jabba eats, so I bought him a little more than a year's worth. | Aug 14 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | (Good sale.) | Aug 14 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Glad I didn't throw the inserts out. I never even look at their ads, because I don't go there. But Walmart matches them. :) | Aug 14 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | The need doesn't arise that often to stock up on chicken fence and horse shampoo. :) | Aug 14 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, But if you have a horse that needs shampooed, now's the time. | Aug 14 11:15 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://www.news9.com/story/23127379/police-arrest-man-accused-of-raping-friend-and-claiming-to-be-cia-agent | Aug 14 11:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.news9.com | Police Arrest Rape Suspect Who Claimed He Was CIA Agent - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | [ http://ur1.ca/f1wac ] | Aug 14 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx1F6C4REZ8NXOZ&newContentID=Mx2AWHBGMC8SQ5W&newContentNum=39#Mx71Q3C0PD60ET | Aug 14 11:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Marijuana stops child's severe seizures [ http://ur1.ca/f1wam ] | Aug 14 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Aug 14 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | What a coincidence. | Aug 14 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | The psychotropic medications that children get drugged with *causes* seizures, and those are legal and encouraged! | Aug 14 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 14 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Aug 14 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | ....and obesity, and diabetes, and tardive dyskinesia, and dizziness, and headaches, and vomiting, and narcolepsy, and a persistent zombie-like vegetative state, and the occasional "sudden unexplained death". | Aug 14 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | (but these drugs are legal and encouraged...sign up today!) | Aug 14 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Aug 14 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | "Hmm, the commercial made me think I'd go rock climbing with my friends if I took this!" | Aug 14 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | *BARF!!!* *SPLAT!* *falls down and dies* | Aug 14 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Aug 14 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | When a drug company figures out how to get an exclusive patent on marijuana, and make $1,000 a month per patient off of it, it will be legal. | Aug 14 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | And not a day sooner! | Aug 14 11:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/war/130812/drones-art-dronestragram-whisler-bridle | Aug 14 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.globalpost.com | Vincent van Drone: They're not just killing machines anymore | GlobalPost [ http://ur1.ca/f1wfl ] | Aug 14 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/13/justin-bieber-naked-gran-guitar-pictures_n_3748486.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular | Aug 14 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.co.uk | Justin Bieber Naked: Singer Serenades His Gran In The Nude. Yes, Really (PICTURES) [ http://ur1.ca/f1whp ] | Aug 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! | Aug 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | My eyes!!!! | Aug 14 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | You have to be rich before you can go crazy without consequences. | Aug 14 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | Who strips naked and plays the guitar for their grandmother? | Aug 14 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | I could understand if it was his girlfriend or something. | Aug 14 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/13/hurt-obamacare-exemption-none-dare-call-it-treason/ | Aug 14 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | HURT: Obamacare exemption — none dare call it treason - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/f1wkx ] | Aug 14 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Politicians. Scheme. Evil plan. Taxpayer money.... | Aug 14 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Yep...It's all there. Nothing has gone missing. | Aug 14 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | As long as they can take as much money as they want and spend it however they like, the suffering will continue. | Aug 14 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/6-nuttiest-right-wing-statements-just-week-alone?page=0%2C2 | Aug 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Aug 14 12:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.alternet.org | 6 of the Nuttiest Right-Wing Statements Just from this Week Alone | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/f1ws1 ] | Aug 14 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | Pat Robertson told someone to burn down his house since it was infested with demons. | Aug 14 12:00 |
| MinceR | maybe they should burn down pat robertson's house since it is infested with pat robertson | Aug 14 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Followed by the 700 Club recording studio. | Aug 14 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | My grandmother will miss her favorite show, but she's spent the last several decades warehousing enough crazy to last for the rest of her life. | Aug 14 12:03 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 14 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | If she does manage to run out, she can always borrow some from my parents. | Aug 14 12:04 |
| MinceR | ooh, pat robertson agrees with the international red cross on video games | Aug 14 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinunderhill/2011/12/06/red-cross-would-like-rules-of-war-applied-to-video-games/ | Aug 14 12:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | Red Cross Would Like Rules of War Applied to Video Games [Updated] - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/f1wz4 ] | Aug 14 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | Can't we apply them to the United States first? | Aug 14 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.alternet.org/environment/fight-brewing-over-plan-build-nations-largest-trash-incinerator | Aug 14 12:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.alternet.org | Fight Brewing Over a Plan to Build the Nation’s Largest Trash Incinerator | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/f1x3j ] | Aug 14 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | Somehow I knew this was in Indiana before I clicked on it. | Aug 14 12:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 14 12:33 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, What we really need is the nation's largest white trash incinerator. | Aug 14 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of building more prisons, you just find all the people selling, making, and using meth, and throw them in the incinerator. | Aug 14 12:38 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 14 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The people making and selling it deserve to die, and the people using it are already dead. | Aug 14 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | Might as well get rid of them in the most cost effective way. | Aug 14 12:42 |
| *eebrah|away is now known as eebrah | Aug 14 12:42 | |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Aug 14 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!" | Aug 14 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | You know. You might not want to go around telling atheists that. One of us might take you up on it. | Aug 14 12:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 14 12:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessinsider.com/breaking-bad-best-quotes-2013-8 | Aug 14 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | 'Breaking Bad' Best Quotes - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/f1xew ] | Aug 14 12:51 |
| MinceR | geekings | Aug 14 12:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nwlinux/status/367604477416587264 | Aug 14 13:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @nwlinux: This reads like the gov't wants a Terminator-like Skynet - RT @schestowitz US said they'd bomb DDOS attacks? Well... http://t.co/5JaTZKxXvW | Aug 14 13:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.irishtimes.com | NSA backlash undermines ‘Star Wars’ US web defence - US News | Latest US News Headlines | The Irish Times - Wed, Aug 14, 2013 | Aug 14 13:02 |
| schestowitz | [11:34] <TechrightsBot-tr> www.huffingtonpost.co.uk | Justin Bieber Naked: Singer Serenades His Gran In The Nude. Yes, Really (PICTURES) [ http://ur1.ca/f1whp ] | Aug 14 13:04 |
| schestowitz | WTF? | Aug 14 13:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.huffingtonpost.co.uk | Justin Bieber Naked: Singer Serenades His Gran In The Nude. Yes, Really (PICTURES) | Aug 14 13:04 |
| MinceR | ew | Aug 14 13:04 |
| schestowitz | I reckon this will actually HELP his career | Aug 14 13:05 |
| MinceR | also, calling that fundie a "singer" is an insult to all singers | Aug 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Welcome to the US | Aug 14 13:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/367606156417843200 | Aug 14 13:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz indeed the American union is becoming much like the soviet one | Aug 14 13:07 |
| schestowitz | so the oppression is not even innovative, but a copycat | Aug 14 13:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CDSRV/status/367610275123322881 | Aug 14 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CDSRV: @schestowitz : and don't forget it aims to quash the first. | Aug 14 13:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/367616354116853760 | Aug 14 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: #Spain demands 'clarification and information' on #NSA surveillance - http://t.co/5PEHdvYszM it's not fooling anyone (v @schestowitz) | Aug 14 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.digitaljournal.com | Spain demands 'clarification and information' on NSA surveillance | Aug 14 13:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pspicerwensley/status/367621538725392384 | Aug 14 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @pspicerwensley: @schestowitz Yes, we scan... | Aug 14 13:23 |
| schestowitz | they lie, too | Aug 14 13:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pspicerwensley/status/367623583792500736 https://twitter.com/partido_pirata/status/367625842832449537 | Aug 14 13:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @pspicerwensley: @schestowitz Good idea to do this to the NSA - now if we can just get them to download everything we watch on the internet... | Aug 14 13:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @partido_pirata: @glynmoody @schestowitz This is only smoke building to cover corruption investigation of the governing party. In fact they never cared #NSA | Aug 14 13:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/367627081435193344 | Aug 14 13:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @partido_pirata @schestowitz indeed | Aug 14 13:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pspicerwensley/status/367626244210176001 | Aug 14 13:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @pspicerwensley: @schestowitz I thought that was a given... | Aug 14 13:51 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/367627769875664896 | Aug 14 13:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz I would argue the modern police state was invented during the Albigensian crusade; the rest are derivative works :) | Aug 14 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Some better funded than other | Aug 14 13:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2950946 | Aug 14 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Deutsche Telekom's plan to offer "secure email"... little more than a marketing gimmick." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/13/deutsche_mail_scorned_by_hackers/ #germany #email | Aug 14 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | NSA-proof email encryption? Cobblers, sniff German hackers • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f1ygc ] | Aug 14 13:55 |
| schestowitz | "cpt obvious" | Aug 14 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Illusion of security and privacy is worse than no illusion at all, incriminates people | Aug 14 13:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951013 | Aug 14 14:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama’s first step in addressing #nsa backlash is commissioning a white paper on NSA spying, with #clapper involvement. Just a PR exercise. | Aug 14 14:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 14 14:06 |
| schestowitz | White House denies intel chief will lead NSA surveillance review | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | The Obama administration is denying that James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, will control a review of the government's surveillance programs. ... | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | President Obama sure has a funny way of trying to rebuild that trust," Mike Masnick wrote on his blog TechDirt . "This seems a lot more like giving the concerns of the American public a giant middle finger." | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/316879-white-house-denies-intel-chief-will-lead-nsa-review#ixzz2bscMeCet | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | looks they found a new vocal defender of NSA surveillance ;) | Aug 14 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | thehill.com | White House denies intel chief will lead NSA surveillance review - The Hill's Hillicon Valley [ http://ur1.ca/f1yn4 ] | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951013 | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Best comment on this news: | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Clapper won't be controlling the group - he's merely establishing it. I feel so much better. | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | yes, i caught the damage control later and reckoned they merely responded to the backlash by issuing some shallowly-appeasing PR | Aug 14 14:07 |
| schestowitz | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130812/13512624147/president-asks-confessed-liar-to-congerss-james-clapper-to-set-up-independent-review-committee-over-nsa-surveillance.shtml | Aug 14 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | Confessed Liar To Congress, James Clapper, Gets To Set Up The 'Independent' Review Over NSA Surveillance | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/f1ynv ] | Aug 14 14:08 |
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| DaemonFC | Uggh. | Aug 14 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | They're out there hammering on stuff, replacing my screen doors. | Aug 14 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | I wish they'd shit or get off the pot. | Aug 14 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | This remodel seems to be going on forever. | Aug 14 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | these people are so fucking rude | Aug 14 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | The guy doesn't even knock, he just walks right in | Aug 14 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to talk to the property manager about this. | Aug 14 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | That is inappropriate. | Aug 14 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | You don't just walk into someone's home. | Aug 14 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | He's lucky I knew who they were. | Aug 14 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why they have to replace the doors. There's nothing wrong with the doors they are removing. | Aug 14 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | They were doing the job of being a door quite well. | Aug 14 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | They say they're updating everything to current standards. | Aug 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'm no door expert, but I don't believe there's been amazing advances in the field lately. | Aug 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR? :) | Aug 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's like that guy on Falling Down. | Aug 14 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | "What's wrong with the street?" | Aug 14 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | "I don't think there's anything wrong with the street. You're just tearing it up to justify your inflated budget! I know how this works! If you don't spend all the money you got this year, they won't give you the same amount next year!" | Aug 14 14:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951587 | Aug 14 14:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What the #boston bombing showed is not that we need #nsa but that NSA doesn't work. What it taught us is the need to avert blowback. | Aug 14 14:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 14 14:48 |
| schestowitz | I guess the Benjamin Franklin quote about privacy and security is going around with the Teabagger types again. And there's a back-and-forth with pundits who agree or disagree and try to pass it off as meaningless. I only know about this from talking to people who watch tv and use fb. | Aug 14 14:48 |
| schestowitz | I was talking about this and the NSA and the recent crap with a friend. He said to me "I don't like the government spying on me, but I DO like them protecting me from terrorists." | Aug 14 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Not sure what that's called. False-equivalence? Begging the question? Post hoc ergo propter hoc? | Aug 14 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, there's no proof whatsoever that one has anything to do with the other. | Aug 14 14:48 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 14 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Repetition makes the fallacy permeate | Aug 14 14:48 |
| schestowitz | The Nazis said they wre protecting Germany, too | Aug 14 14:49 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/367646880588521472 | Aug 14 15:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz Steve Shuttleworth? Last I checked he is called Mark. | Aug 14 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Yes, but I try to pass him a compliment, homage to his idol. | Aug 14 15:03 |
| schestowitz | It is very, very probably that Canonical will be sold one day and not necessary to a very benevolent entity (to monetise it) | Aug 14 15:05 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/367648262695571457 | Aug 14 15:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz which idol? | Aug 14 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | "Steve Jobs. Mark expressed admiration for him on various occasions, publicly." | Aug 14 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | Yesterday I prepared a coming episode of my interview with RMS, where he explains how Jobs is *personally* responsible for malice | Aug 14 15:08 |
| schestowitz | The hallmark of Apple | Aug 14 15:09 |
| iophk | There are still new articles about Steve Jobs | Aug 14 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Followed by Canonical | Aug 14 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Which should be following the FSF really | Aug 14 15:09 |
| iophk | Though the frequency of them has slowed down of late. | Aug 14 15:09 |
| schestowitz | Without those countdowns on their sits, limited previews, and press hype which de-emphasises what really matters about FOSS | Aug 14 15:09 |
| schestowitz | iophk: it's useful to glorify him | Aug 14 15:09 |
| iophk | When Ubuntu had the appearance of caring about FOSS, it had the most momentum. | Aug 14 15:10 |
| schestowitz | THe plutocrats like a guy whom they can portray as modest and rich | Aug 14 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Unlike Trump | Aug 14 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Gates has a lot of crminal post | Aug 14 15:10 |
| schestowitz | but they still use him a bit | Aug 14 15:10 |
| iophk | http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-filed-bankruptcy-times/story?id=13419250 | Aug 14 15:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | abcnews.go.com | Donald Trump's Companies Filed for Bankruptcy 4 Times - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/f1zqp ] | Aug 14 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Though his critics' voice is gaining traction | Aug 14 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Jobs has less of a crime history problm | Aug 14 15:11 |
| iophk | Gates made (makes) his money only through bad, sometimes illegal, dealings. | Aug 14 15:11 |
| schestowitz | What a scam he is | Aug 14 15:11 |
| schestowitz | who will foot the bill? | Aug 14 15:11 |
| schestowitz | iophk: that's how a lot of money is made | Aug 14 15:12 |
| iophk | The world is worse for having Windows instead of a half-dozen promising technologies that he blocked. | Aug 14 15:12 |
| schestowitz | ethical earnings are harder to find | Aug 14 15:12 |
| schestowitz | same with journalism | Aug 14 15:12 |
| schestowitz | paid journalism is often disguised PR | Aug 14 15:12 |
| schestowitz | people don't fund justice | Aug 14 15:12 |
| schestowitz | I stress this to people, when you see a rich person, bear in mind it's quite possible the wealth was acquired by harming other people one way or another | Aug 14 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Conversely, a poor person might be the one who helped make someone else's life better | Aug 14 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Willingly or not willingly (forcibly) | Aug 14 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, Shuttleowrth secretary is chatting with me in Tqwitter right now | Aug 14 15:14 |
| schestowitz | I know ones like him | Aug 14 15:14 |
| schestowitz | There's this guy at my gym called Lawrence | Aug 14 15:14 |
| schestowitz | He created a large business, UK fast | Aug 14 15:14 |
| schestowitz | and he hired some guy whose only role seems to beboosting his ego | Aug 14 15:14 |
| schestowitz | He's not qualified for any offuice job | Aug 14 15:14 |
| schestowitz | And he was originalluy just his personal trainer/coach | Aug 14 15:14 |
| schestowitz | So the very rich people tend to have some people hired to surround themselves like PR bodyguards and ego intoxication | Aug 14 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Getting to the original point, that's probably how Mark views Jono | Aug 14 15:15 |
| iophk | why hire a personal spinmeister? | Aug 14 15:15 |
| schestowitz | I can criticise Ubuntu, but if I mention Mark, then Jono shows up and chastises me | Aug 14 15:16 |
| schestowitz | iophk: to defend the perception | Aug 14 15:16 |
| iophk | but he's not out there proactively creating a positive image. | Aug 14 15:16 |
| schestowitz | If I start criticising King Og Ubuntu, then there will be "buddies" to discourage me | Aug 14 15:16 |
| iophk | He runs around reactively going after perceived slights. | Aug 14 15:16 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 14 15:16 |
| iophk | It makes the whole thing look worse for that. | Aug 14 15:16 |
| schestowitz | and calling RMS "childish": | Aug 14 15:16 |
| MinceR | apparently canonical is allowed to attack anyone so long as everyone bows before canonical, m$ and crApple | Aug 14 15:17 |
| schestowitz | A 30 year old calling a 60 Y-O person with many PhDs and honours "chuldish" | Aug 14 15:17 |
| schestowitz | In front of many Ubuntu fanboys | Aug 14 15:17 |
| iophk | mincer: especially for M$ | Aug 14 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Whom he hopes to convince RMS is passe, chopped liver | Aug 14 15:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: and waves an Open Respect banner | Aug 14 15:18 |
| schestowitz | After he had disrespected many, with foul language too, in LUG Radio | Aug 14 15:18 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 14 15:18 |
| schestowitz | visitign Microsoft about 10 times changes one's mind | Aug 14 15:18 |
| schestowitz | The money comes from building bridges with some bad but rich allies | Aug 14 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Unlike those "stinking" FSF people like RMS /sarcasm | Aug 14 15:19 |
| schestowitz | status by association, hanging around whatever smells like green (no pot).. same business method of elected officials in the US | Aug 14 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Joe C. is the name of the person whom I know does that | Aug 14 15:20 |
| schestowitz | Spoke with a friend who knows him las week, it's him who explained it with thus framing. Some people's job/slary depends heavily on sucking up to the big boss who hires them not for any technical work but for generating a good "buzz" or ego boost | Aug 14 15:21 |
| schestowitz | Joe is to Lawrence what Jono is to Mark | Aug 14 15:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/367651775576150017 | Aug 14 15:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz Mark has expressed admiration for Nelson Mandala more often, if you are going to rename him, that would be better. | Aug 14 15:21 |
| MinceR | "Mandala" | Aug 14 15:21 |
| MinceR | oh snap | Aug 14 15:21 |
| schestowitz | but Mandela is not a computing personality. I too admire Mandela, why does Mark follow Jobs' example? | Aug 14 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Mandela would have hated what Jobs did to computing. Mandela was put in prison after CIA surveillance (which Apple supports). | Aug 14 15:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/367651950004678656 | Aug 14 15:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz as for RMS, I don't define my value system by software, so I tend to disagree with him. :-) | Aug 14 15:23 |
| schestowitz | That's fair enough and we are advantaged when we know who inspires heads of companies | Aug 14 15:23 |
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| schestowitz | If to Ubuntu Apple is an idol and RMS a "liability", then I know what to expect from the project | Aug 14 15:26 |
| MinceR | same practice as when m$ and crApple rips off free software projects, i guess | Aug 14 15:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/367653669241507841 | Aug 14 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz Mark admires some but not aspects of Jobs, you can take up the specifics with Mark. In any case, name-calling is pretty lame. | Aug 14 15:29 |
| schestowitz | There was no name-calling. | Aug 14 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/367655028439265280 | Aug 14 15:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz calling Mark "Steve Shuttleworth" the precise-definition of name-calling. In much the same way Mono Bacon has been used. | Aug 14 15:35 |
| schestowitz | LOL Mono Bacon | Aug 14 15:35 |
| sebsebseb | Boy schestowitz | Aug 14 15:35 |
| schestowitz | heh | Aug 14 15:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: what else can Roy be changed to hmm :d | Aug 14 15:36 |
| schestowitz | "Name calling is abusive or insulting language referred to a person or group, a verbal abuse." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_calling Not applicable. | Aug 14 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Name calling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/f20a6 ] | Aug 14 15:36 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jonobacon/status/367655282362433537 | Aug 14 15:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jonobacon: @schestowitz we respect aspects of both RMS and Jobs and we are critical of aspects too. Not everything has to be 100%. | Aug 14 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Good answer. :-) | Aug 14 15:37 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I hardly use social networking now | Aug 14 15:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: there isn't a time line like befoer showing loads of your messagers on identi.ca/pump.io | Aug 14 15:38 |
| sebsebseb | I have occasonly gone to Diaspora to look through your profile, which is a easier and better way to follow your stuff really | Aug 14 15:38 |
| sebsebseb | ,but eh | Aug 14 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and if I send messages not that many care about them really so eh | Aug 14 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | and I know what sites to go to for Linux news or kind of thing | Aug 14 15:39 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I miss your random images if I don't follow you on something though and hav ea look to see what your putting out there, but eh | Aug 14 15:39 |
| MinceR | 163805 < schestowitz> Good answer. :-) | Aug 14 15:40 |
| MinceR | no, it isn't | Aug 14 15:40 |
| MinceR | it's meaningless bullshit, in a last ditch attempt to make you look bad. | Aug 14 15:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951548 | Aug 14 15:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did You Know that #Mozilla is Hijacking the Internet? http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2013/08/did-you-know-that-mozilla-is-hijacking-the-internet/index.htm #brainwash industry uses more brainwash vs opposition | Aug 14 15:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.computerworlduk.com | Did You Know that Mozilla is Hijacking the Internet? - Open Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/f20ef ] | Aug 14 15:50 |
| MinceR | not just brainwash, but also plain lies | Aug 14 15:50 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 14 15:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951548 | Aug 14 15:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: MinceR oh yeah if that guy comes back from last night, asking about a distro, and I miss him again, remember to recommend Mageia to him :d :) | Aug 14 15:51 |
| schestowitz | "spitting coffee" | Aug 14 15:51 |
| MinceR | i'll remember to recommend crunchbang :> | Aug 14 15:51 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: mageia got a bad reviww frm some popular site this week | Aug 14 15:52 |
| schestowitz | gone in 30 seconds or something | Aug 14 15:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yes yes read it last night | Aug 14 15:52 |
| sebsebseb | was just telling the QA lady etc about it in fact | Aug 14 15:52 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: he had some points in there though or possbily | Aug 14 15:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951717 | Aug 14 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @teslas_moustache@diasp.org: I guess the Benjamin Franklin quote about privacy and security is going around with the Teabagger types again. And there's a back-and-forth with pundits who agree or disagree and try to pass it off as meaningless. I only know about this from talking to people who watch tv and use fb. | Aug 14 15:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951587 | Aug 14 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What the #boston bombing showed is not that we need #nsa but that NSA doesn't work. What it taught us is the need to avert blowback. | Aug 14 15:54 |
| schestowitz | "It also showed us that pervasive private cameras are better at solving crime after the fact than "security" and "traffic" cameras that are mostly good at tracking people." | Aug 14 15:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951757 | Aug 14 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A sellout to large and very evil company is how Steve Shuttleworth got very wealthy in the first place. Ubuntu boosters should remember it. | Aug 14 15:54 |
| schestowitz | "isn't he called Mark?" | Aug 14 15:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2951477 | Aug 14 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "woman was in contact with authorities and informing them of conversations between her and Swartz." Informant http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130812182937201 | Aug 14 15:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - First 104 pages of Aaron Swartz Secret Service File Released - Who is the female on page 97? ~pj [ http://ur1.ca/f20gd ] | Aug 14 15:56 |
| schestowitz | "The agents could have been undercover infiltrators talking to the unidentified woman. They don't always knock at your door looking like stereotypes of themselves." | Aug 14 15:56 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: that bad review was from some Ubuntu user it seems | Aug 14 16:11 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: by the way | Aug 14 16:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2952104 | Aug 14 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open source amphibious tsunami-resistant houses http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2013/08/open-source-amphibious-tsunami-resistant-houses-in-the-ganges.html #opensource | Aug 14 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.computerweekly.com | Open source amphibious tsunami-resistant houses - Open Source Insider [ http://ur1.ca/f20mi ] | Aug 14 16:22 |
| schestowitz | "Too cool! #OpenTech!" | Aug 14 16:23 |
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| iophk | Using company money to feed Icahn's pockets | Aug 14 17:51 |
| iophk | http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-rt-us-apple-icahn-20130813,0,6137421.story | Aug 14 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.chicagotribune.com | Icahn says bigger buybacks can drive Apple shares to $700 - chicagotribune.com [ http://ur1.ca/f21ak ] | Aug 14 17:51 |
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| iophk | https://torrentfreak.com/court-forbids-isohunt-from-indexing-dead-torrent-sites-130814/ | Aug 14 17:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Court Forbids IsoHunt From Indexing Dead Torrent Sites | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/f21co ] | Aug 14 17:56 |
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| iophk | libreoffice and zotero: | Aug 14 17:59 |
| iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046022/must-have-software-for-college-students.html | Aug 14 17:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Must-have software for college students | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/f21dz ] | Aug 14 17:59 |
| iophk | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/10242703/Anonymity-of-internet-to-blame-for-rise-of-online-trolls.html | Aug 14 18:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.telegraph.co.uk | Anonymity of internet to blame for rise of online trolls - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/f21fi ] | Aug 14 18:04 |
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| iophk | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57598496/google-gmail-users-have-no-expectation-of-privacy/ | Aug 14 18:35 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/14/google-gmail-users-privacy-email-lawsuit | Aug 14 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cbsnews.com | Google: Gmail users have no expectation of privacy - CBS News [ http://ur1.ca/f21rk ] | Aug 14 18:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Google: Gmail users shouldn't expect email privacy | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/f21rl ] | Aug 14 18:35 |
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| iophk | http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/new-york-times-web-site-goes-down/2013/08/14/150bc188-04f7-11e3-9259-e2aafe5a5f84_story.html | Aug 14 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtonpost.com | New York Times Web site goes down - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/f21wu ] | Aug 14 18:55 |
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| iophk | http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/outages-hit-microsofts-outlookcom-skydrive-19960320 | Aug 14 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | abcnews.go.com | Outages Hit Microsoft's Outlook.com, SkyDrive - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/f21x0 ] | Aug 14 18:55 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/14/microsoft_cloud_problems/ | Aug 14 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Microsoft SkyDrive, Outlook stricken by cloud outage • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f21yd ] | Aug 14 19:01 |
| MinceR | surprise surprise | Aug 14 19:04 |
| iophk | M$ == downtime | Aug 14 19:04 |
| abeNd-org | who cares, outlook.com is personal mail | Aug 14 19:13 |
| MinceR | hopefully those who were stupid enough to buy into those "services" do | Aug 14 19:17 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Aug 14 19:24 |
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| abeNd-org | mincer office365 & outlook.com arent the same thing | Aug 14 19:26 |
| MinceR | they're both fog computing and both m$, though | Aug 14 19:26 |
| MinceR | both unreliable, both malicious | Aug 14 19:27 |
| MinceR | accessed by a number of governments, etc. | Aug 14 19:27 |
| MinceR | probably standards-violating | Aug 14 19:27 |
| abeNd-org | if you were doing something hippa related over outlook.com? yeah, you get what you deserve | Aug 14 19:28 |
| abeNd-org | o365 is "supposed" to be hippa/etc compliant though | Aug 14 19:28 |
| abeNd-org | same with gmail vs google apps | Aug 14 19:28 |
| MinceR | that's HIPAA | Aug 14 19:29 |
| MinceR | and there's a lot more to privacy, security, availability and interoperability than that | Aug 14 19:29 |
| abeNd-org | good luck finding any on-prem system that is that secure, much less any cloud system | Aug 14 19:32 |
| MinceR | that is as secure as what m$ cobbled together? i could find one by picking randomly. | Aug 14 19:32 |
| abeNd-org | doesnt sound like linux is all that secure these days either, onprem or cloud | Aug 14 19:37 |
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| MinceR | it is not perfectly secure | Aug 14 19:38 |
| MinceR | nothing is | Aug 14 19:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: MinceR that latest HUmble BUndle seems intersting | Aug 14 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | not seen video yet | Aug 14 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | ,but it's EA and Orien | Aug 14 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | and it all going to charities | Aug 14 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | aids, cancer, etc etc | Aug 14 19:39 |
| sebsebseb | and get Sims 3 and Battefiled 3 and such | Aug 14 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | Windows only though, but yeah | Aug 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | there's a huge difference between 'a large group of people collaborating to design a good system for themselves to use' and 'numerous backdoors intentionally built in for NSA & co.', though | Aug 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i don't follow humble bundles yet | Aug 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | also factor in the incompetence and indifference of m$ code monkeys. | Aug 14 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: look here then http://humblebundle.com | Aug 14 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.humblebundle.com | Humble Origin Bundle (pay what you want and help charity) | Aug 14 19:41 |
| MinceR | so, is Origin a DRM platform? | Aug 14 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | I don't know | Aug 14 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | another ocmpany I guess | Aug 14 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | or something | Aug 14 19:42 |
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| abeNd-org | looks like a bunch of lame old games | Aug 14 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Oirign is like Steam apparnatly | Aug 14 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | ,but EA's thing | Aug 14 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | according to someone | Aug 14 19:48 |
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| MinceR | sounds sinister. | Aug 14 19:48 |
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| abeNd-org | who has time to play games anyways? | Aug 14 19:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yes that's what the guy was saying | Aug 14 19:51 |
| sebsebseb | EA is evil etc etc | Aug 14 19:51 |
| MinceR | sometimes i have the time | Aug 14 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | and that Oirign is more evil than Steam etc | Aug 14 19:52 |
| abeNd-org | between work, drive time, keeping in shape, household chores, & the like, there is no time for "fun" | Aug 14 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | sometimes I have the time for games to, but I tend toj ust play Mealstrom and that's about it oh and some Kapman | Aug 14 19:52 |
| MinceR | there's time for what you make time :> | Aug 14 19:52 |
| MinceR | it's often a matter of priorities | Aug 14 19:52 |
| abeNd-org | i already get up at 5am every morning | Aug 14 19:53 |
| abeNd-org | working out, travel time, work, travel time, stuff around the house, dinner, sleep | Aug 14 19:53 |
| sebsebseb | Origin doesn't sound good | Aug 14 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_%28content_delivery%29 | Aug 14 19:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Origin (content delivery) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/f22fl ] | Aug 14 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | DRM etc yeah | Aug 14 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | no Linux port of course etc | Aug 14 19:54 |
| MinceR | sometimes i can make time to play Xonotic | Aug 14 19:56 |
| abeNd-org | weekends are usually working out, library volunteering, triathlons (sprint), house/yard work, sometimes sleep, still no time for fun | Aug 14 19:57 |
| MinceR | All work and no play make Jack a dull boy. | Aug 14 19:58 |
| MinceR | ;) | Aug 14 19:58 |
| abeNd-org | gee, more people telling me im doing everything wrong | Aug 14 20:00 |
| abeNd-org | insert expletive here.... | Aug 14 20:00 |
| MinceR | :D | Aug 14 20:01 |
| MinceR | maybe it's not as valuable for you as it is for others | Aug 14 20:01 |
| abeNd-org | you are still in school eh? havent held a fulltime job yet? | Aug 14 20:01 |
| MinceR | i'm at a full-time job | Aug 14 20:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2952344 | Aug 14 20:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Most people now carry #surveillance devices which, even if they don't actively broadcast while entering other homes, will upload data later | Aug 14 20:02 |
| schestowitz | "True, true. Many of them have cameras and microphones that can be turned on or off remotely as well. Yikes!" | Aug 14 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | One of the guys that was working on my apartment said he'd pay me to fix his laptop. | Aug 14 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | It sounds like the hard disk is getting ready to crash. | Aug 14 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I told him he shouldn't leave it on too much until he gets a chance to back everything up and swap the drive out. | Aug 14 20:04 |
| abeNd-org | spinrite time! | Aug 14 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | When they sound like that, it means they're probably already ruining sectors.... | Aug 14 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | You're lucky if you get a warning at all. Sometimes the drive firmware doesn't even detect it until you've lost something for good. | Aug 14 20:07 |
| *DaemonFC will be glad when the price comes down on SSDs. | Aug 14 20:07 | |
| DaemonFC | Anything with moving parts is unreliable. | Aug 14 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: abeNd-org maybe I should buy it and put in a a nick to do with DRM :d | Aug 14 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | and | Aug 14 20:12 |
| abeNd-org | SSD die too, especially the cheapies | Aug 14 20:12 |
| MinceR | perhaps nothing lasts forever | Aug 14 20:12 |
| abeNd-org | no, but ive heard plenty of horror stories over cheapie ssd/controllers | Aug 14 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: abeNd-org maybe I should buy it in and put in a name such as LInux useres would like ports without DRM | Aug 14 20:14 |
| abeNd-org | do linux users even play games? | Aug 14 20:39 |
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| MinceR | indeed. | Aug 14 20:44 |
| MinceR | both on GNU/Linux and on Android/Linux | Aug 14 20:45 |
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| abeNd-org | android really doesnt count as linux | Aug 14 20:56 |
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| MinceR | what kernel does Android use, then? | Aug 14 21:05 |
| abeNd-org | its a mobile phone os, i wouldnt really classify it as linux proper like rhel/sles/mint | Aug 14 21:07 |
| MinceR | those are GNU/Linux distributions | Aug 14 21:10 |
| MinceR | there were also mobile phone GNU/Linux distros. what about those? | Aug 14 21:11 |
| MinceR | and what about Android/Linux running on tablets? | Aug 14 21:11 |
| abeNd-org | meh, as someone who used slackware since 0.x kernels android isnt "true" linux, just toy linux | Aug 14 21:11 |
| abeNd-org | :P | Aug 14 21:11 |
| MinceR | i don't think the kernel they use is that different | Aug 14 21:12 |
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| MinceR | also, my phone runs both Android and GNU on top of Linux | Aug 14 21:12 |
| abeNd-org | i do need to setup a dualboot with opensuse on my new gateway, got it from an emachines faulty floppy drive settlement (how/why, i dont know) but it is a i5 with 8gb ram, & works with my 5.1 speakers, so its not too bad | Aug 14 21:24 |
| XFaCE | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130813/10472024154/microsoft-folds-again-xbox-one-will-now-work-without-kinect-enabled.shtml | Aug 14 21:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | Microsoft Folds Again: Xbox One Will Now Work Without Kinect Enabled | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/f23bo ] | Aug 14 21:34 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: MinceR DaemonFC the exodus continues | Aug 14 21:34 |
| MinceR | good. | Aug 14 21:34 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Next development: you can run whatever you want and do whatever you want with the Xbox One | Aug 14 21:35 |
| XFaCE | All games will be OpenGL based | Aug 14 21:35 |
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| XFaCE | [/sarcasm] | Aug 14 21:35 |
| XFaCE | Whatever you all do, WD Black hard drives for laptops like to park a little excessively | Aug 14 21:36 |
| XFaCE | just a heads up | Aug 14 21:36 |
| MinceR | hm | Aug 14 21:40 |
| MinceR | good thing my home server has a Scorpio Blue, then :> | Aug 14 21:40 |
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| MinceR | gn | Aug 14 23:07 |
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