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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2970406Aug 21 08:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Father of two, murderer of six http://rt.com/news/bales-laughs-afghanistan-murder-711/ #war as a gameAug 21 08:16
schestowitz"The comment that left me gobsmacked was "FREE SGT BALES!!! IT'S NOT HIS FAULT!!!" Really?!?!? Did the dog order him to do it??????"Aug 21 08:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2970148Aug 21 08:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Which Linux File Browser Is More Productive: Nautilus or Dolphin?Aug 21 08:21
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.makeuseof.com | Which Linux File Browser Is More Productive: Nautilus or Dolphin?  [ http://ur1.ca/f4wkg ]Aug 21 08:21
schestowitz"fish (http://fishshell.com/) "Aug 21 08:22
TechrightsBot-trfishshell.com | fish shellAug 21 08:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2971372Aug 21 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: one leg...Aug 21 08:22
schestowitz"Got to keep switching legs ;)"Aug 21 08:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2970470Aug 21 08:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Entire History of the World—Really, All of It—Distilled Into a Single Gorgeous Chart http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2013/08/12/the_1931_histomap_the_entire_history_of_the_world_distilled_into_a_single.html?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffercd91f&utm_medium=twitter interestingAug 21 08:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.slate.com | The 1931 Histomap: The entire history of the world distilled into a single map/chart.  [ http://ur1.ca/f55fn ]Aug 21 08:23
schestowitz"Well, somebody's interpretation of the "entire history of the world", in any case."Aug 21 08:23
schestowitz"Aug 21 08:23
schestowitzI like how "Jesus of Nazareth" succeeds Julius Caesar to rule the Mediterranean and Alpine people of the Roman Empire.Aug 21 08:23
schestowitzI have a map from Japan which lists Dynasties in regions that does a better job of keeping things straight.Aug 21 08:23
schestowitz"Aug 21 08:23
schestowitzhttp://www.fsf.org/events/20130903-pretoriaAug 21 08:46
TechrightsBot-trFailed to connect to 2001:4830:134:4::a: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ http://www.fsf.org/events/20130903-pretoria )Aug 21 08:47
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/370090513572974592Aug 21 08:51
TechrightsBot-tr@GaryArmstrong: @schestowitz the 5 eyes nations spy/surveillance organizational behaviour is kicking in now.Aug 21 08:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/GaryArmstrong/status/370091257768316929Aug 21 08:56
TechrightsBot-tr@GaryArmstrong: Bloggers beware. "@schestowitz: We become what we criticise http://t.co/nrmVbAlIGd"Aug 21 08:56
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.bbc.co.uk | BBC NEWS | Technology | Blogger arrests hit record highAug 21 08:56
schestowitzhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Aug-20-1.htmlAug 21 09:15
TechrightsBot-trtirania.org | What is new on Mono - Miguel de Icaza  [ http://ur1.ca/f5684 ]Aug 21 09:15
schestowitzStill boosting .NET http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Aug-20.htmlAug 21 09:15
TechrightsBot-trtirania.org | PlayScript - Miguel de Icaza  [ http://ur1.ca/f5689 ]Aug 21 09:15
iophkSo Zynga is getting contaminated.  No wonder it is on the way out.Aug 21 09:29
schestowitzhttp://www.geekwire.com/2013/larry-ellison-pessimistic-apples/Aug 21 09:30
TechrightsBot-trwww.geekwire.com | Larry Ellison pessimistic about Apple's future, shows disdain for Google's evil ways - GeekWire  [ http://ur1.ca/f56ej ]Aug 21 09:30
schestowitz"Aug 21 09:30
schestowitz Rose: But you think they’re evil?Aug 21 09:30
schestowitzEllison: I think what they did was absolutely evil.Aug 21 09:30
schestowitzRose: And you blame Larry Page?Aug 21 09:30
schestowitzEllison: 100 percent Larry Page.Aug 21 09:30
schestowitzRose: So if what they did is evil, that makes Larry Page evil.Aug 21 09:30
schestowitzEllison: No, it makes what he did evil, which is quite different.Aug 21 09:30
schestowitz"Aug 21 09:30
schestowitziophk: yeahAug 21 09:30
schestowitzI noticed thatAug 21 09:30
schestowitzThen it got me thinking, did they dabble in .NET before he joined?Aug 21 09:30
schestowitzDid he join *because* they're .NET-oriented?Aug 21 09:30
schestowitzReminiscent of NetflixAug 21 09:30
schestowitzSilverlightAug 21 09:31
iophkThere are a bunch of games tied to M$ but I'm not sure which companies make them.Aug 21 09:31
schestowitziophk: I don't want to say this in twittr, but back in 2006 I said to PJ, set up PGPAug 21 09:32
schestowitzMaybe that was 2007Aug 21 09:32
schestowitzShe declinedAug 21 09:32
schestowitzI can;'t remember her reasoning, but it  was utter crapAug 21 09:32
schestowitzNothing to do with technical reasonsAug 21 09:32
schestowitzIn 2010 she mailed me because I said I was quitting emailAug 21 09:33
schestowitzcriticising my reasonsAug 21 09:33
schestowitzshe was baited by mail at timesAug 21 09:33
schestowitzmaybe the NSA is a bit of an excuse for her to stop running the site, againAug 21 09:33
schestowitzAnd getting some coverage for itAug 21 09:33
schestowitzand also throwing a job at the NSAAug 21 09:34
schestowitzGroklaw has been a lot less infleuential recently and PJ did not write many articlesAug 21 09:34
schestowitzSo I think it's a bit stageAug 21 09:34
schestowitzThough I won't say that in twitterAug 21 09:34
schestowitzMaybe it was 2007 when I told her, let's use PGPAug 21 09:35
schestowitzShe was using a MacAug 21 09:35
schestowitzIIRCAug 21 09:35
schestowitzNot hardware, software too, the headers gave it awayAug 21 09:35
schestowitzSO I think, sincerely, that there is some -- just *some* -- degree of BS in the reason for stoppingAug 21 09:35
schestowitzThough it works well against the NSAAug 21 09:36
schestowitzShe was here in this IRC channel some weeks agoAug 21 09:36
schestowitzWith IP address showing, I am not sure privacy is really her #1 concernAug 21 09:36
schestowitzYears ago Peter R (mathfox) helped her relay her messages (email) for improved securityAug 21 09:37
schestowitzbut she'd never encrypt messagesAug 21 09:37
schestowitzI think 5 years ago her reason was something to do with making it look more suspiciousAug 21 09:37
schestowitzWHich IMHO is a poor reasonAug 21 09:37
gde33intersting when everyone is looking at your crimes http://www.globalwitness.org/library/south-sudan%E2%80%99s-new-government-must-quickly-enact-oil-lawAug 21 09:43
TechrightsBot-trwww.globalwitness.org | South Sudan’s new government must quickly enact oil law | Global Witness  [ http://ur1.ca/f56lb ]Aug 21 09:43
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2013/08/getty-just-made-4600-incredible-images-public-domain/Aug 21 10:00
TechrightsBot-trblogs.smithsonianmag.com | Getty Just Made 4,600 Incredible Images Free to Download and Use | Smart News  [ http://ur1.ca/f56tu ]Aug 21 10:00
schestowitzto gel with gettyAug 21 10:00
schestowitzand corbisAug 21 10:00
schestowitzmonopolisers of imageryAug 21 10:00
schestowitzbetter to use stuff which was free all alongAug 21 10:00
schestowitzlike the hungarian stock xchangeAug 21 10:00
schestowitzgde33: elaborate...Aug 21 10:02
gde33schestowitz: they have to make an offical account for the government oil proffits. Rather than the unlimited personal credit card.Aug 21 10:10
gde33investors want their transparency :PAug 21 10:11
gde33http://www.globalwitness.org looks like it is doing a ton of heavy liftingAug 21 10:12
TechrightsBot-trwww.globalwitness.org | Global Witness |Aug 21 10:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2971379Aug 21 10:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Journalism in the #uk http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/8/20/1377020151375/5f534bc9-1b28-4da1-8091-515b95274d52-460x276.jpeg #guardian was part of the Establishment, but it too "stepped out of line"Aug 21 10:19
schestowitz"Every day they are getting crazier!"Aug 21 10:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2970148Aug 21 10:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Which Linux File Browser Is More Productive: Nautilus or Dolphin?Aug 21 10:20
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.makeuseof.com | Which Linux File Browser Is More Productive: Nautilus or Dolphin?  [ http://ur1.ca/f4wkg ]Aug 21 10:20
schestowitz"Dolphin."Aug 21 10:20
schestowitzI tried some tasks on both, I prefer Konq and DolphinAug 21 10:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2971598Aug 21 10:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Larry Ellison is a shameless liar http://bigstory.ap.org/article/italian-skipper-says-cup-champ-oracle-cheated remember when he broke aviation rules? Sociopath.Aug 21 10:20
schestowitz"I recently saw an interview where he was cheering on NSA surveillance."Aug 21 10:20
gde33schestowitz: I hated file browsing on linux :PAug 21 10:20
TechrightsBot-tr-> bigstory.ap.org | Italian skipper says Cup champ Oracle cheatedAug 21 10:21
gde33it was just like I couldnt see what was on my diskAug 21 10:21
schestowitzEllison reportedly sold his first database to CIA, it was named Oracle Version 2Aug 21 10:21
gde33no one understands why americans want so much spying in their countryAug 21 10:22
schestowitzthey don'tAug 21 10:22
schestowitztheir govt. is under siegeAug 21 10:22
gde33is it really worth dispelling the whole illusion of freedom over?Aug 21 10:22
schestowitzcoup by plutocratsAug 21 10:22
gde33ilusory freedom is a lot better than non at allAug 21 10:23
schestowitzlike in China basicallyAug 21 10:23
gde33hahaAug 21 10:23
gde33noAug 21 10:23
schestowitzWaitAug 21 10:23
schestowitzI meant the plutocratsAug 21 10:23
gde33they chinese are not doing that badAug 21 10:23
schestowitzusing govt. to abuse the peopleAug 21 10:23
schestowitzthe "free" thing doesn't apply in ChinaAug 21 10:23
schestowitzJust cohesion and collective solidarityAug 21 10:23
gde33I'm very impressed by how hard it is to climb up the ladder in chinaAug 21 10:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/micahflee/status/368207277003534336Aug 21 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr@micahflee: I figured out a great way to cut down on NSA abuse. Only intercept data of people who are terrorism suspects, rather than of everyone.Aug 21 10:24
gde33heeheeAug 21 10:25
schestowitzgde33: yes, I heard it's hardAug 21 10:25
schestowitzdie or die tryingAug 21 10:25
gde33to much fluoride that oneAug 21 10:25
schestowitzit made them very greedyAug 21 10:25
schestowitzand class-consciousAug 21 10:25
schestowitzthe extreme capitalism in China shows what thw US will have when they reach China's level of capitalismAug 21 10:25
schestowitzLow wages, pollution (corporations still work hard to erode regulations)Aug 21 10:26
schestowitzBut in all liklihood they already overcame that with globalisation and outsourcing/offshoringAug 21 10:26
gde33I imagine this was quite the eye opener for many http://www.ted.com/talks/eric_x_li_a_tale_of_two_political_systems.htmlAug 21 10:27
TechrightsBot-trwww.ted.com | Eric X. Li: A tale of two political systems | Video on TED.com  [ http://ur1.ca/ekl03 ]Aug 21 10:27
gde33more for some than for others :PAug 21 10:27
schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/cloud-computing/369304/google-encrypt-cloud-storage-data-defaultAug 21 10:27
schestowitz"I take that last to mean that they don't hand over the keys, but they do unencrypt and hand over your data if the government asks for it. That means you need to encrypt it yourself and keep the keys to yourself. Or keep your data locally and skip the cloud. As Eben Moglen has pointed out, the laws are different if you keep things in your own home. They can't just barge in and take it from you without a warrant or do it in secret Aug 21 10:27
schestowitzbehind your back. At least that's the construct. If Google has it, their concept is that you don't have 4th Amendment rights any more. But if you keep it in your home, you do. Or put it in Switzerland or some country that has more protection built into the law than the US, if you need a cloud. Or get off the Internet if this mess isn't cleaned up soon. Seriously."Aug 21 10:27
TechrightsBot-trwww.itworld.com | Google to encrypt Cloud Storage data by default | ITworldAug 21 10:27
gde33the trick is to make the bad words part of the encyptionAug 21 10:28
gde33every message should decypher to blow up bomb type A in location B on date CAug 21 10:28
gde33hahaAug 21 10:28
gde33mandatory valuesAug 21 10:29
gde33follow up message encryption :PAug 21 10:31
schestowitzhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2013/08/15/the-limits-of-google-s-openness.aspxAug 21 10:37
TechrightsBot-trblogs.technet.com | The limits of Google’s openness - Microsoft on the Issues - Site Home - TechNet Blogs  [ http://ur1.ca/f57bl ]Aug 21 10:37
schestowitz"If you read the most recent FairSearch complaint filed with the EU Commission, which Microsoft and other FairSearch members hope will become an official investigation, I think you'll see that Microsoft is here trying to buttress its case, rather than trying to "work with Google" to solve the issues raised. As you watch this play out, I think you'll find that is what this is really all about. When it's a lawyer writing a blog post, Aug 21 10:37
schestowitzthey're not just whistling Dixie."Aug 21 10:37
gde33schestowitz: I have different perspectivesAug 21 11:01
gde33I dont think google or microsoft want to police their users by their own law book.Aug 21 11:02
gde33I think they want to have it all written down for them so that they can point at the documentAug 21 11:02
gde33from the EU perspective the big boys gave themselves absolute power.Aug 21 11:02
gde33they get to chose your reading list and take it away from you for no specific reason.Aug 21 11:03
gde33If google wants to ban people with blue hair they may do so.Aug 21 11:03
gde33If I control what you get to read I control you :PAug 21 11:04
gde33take yahoo with it's suicide blogger -.-Aug 21 11:05
gde33who should decide? what are our standards?Aug 21 11:05
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DaemonFCGoing back to Justin Bieber....Aug 21 12:42
DaemonFC*someone* put a decompression bomb compressed archive on a warez site that claimed  to be Justin Bieber MP3s.Aug 21 12:43
DaemonFC;)Aug 21 12:43
DaemonFCThe old tricks are the best ones.Aug 21 12:43
DaemonFCSometimes on a Windows system, you don't even have to open the file for it to "explode".Aug 21 12:46
DaemonFCSome antivirus programs will do that for you.Aug 21 12:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jahkarta/status/370164184069066752Aug 21 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr@jahkarta: Playing with terror. Has world op learned how to kill #Islamists without creating new ones?  http://t.co/kMipC4O32Y  via @schestowitzAug 21 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> original.antiwar.com | Obama Seems Unable To Limit the Counterproductive U.S. War on Terror  by Ivan Eland  -- Antiwar.comAug 21 13:52
schestowitzDaemonFC: oh, no... let's not chat about celebritiesAug 21 13:53
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schestowitz"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_interventions_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:History_of_United_States_expansionismAug 21 14:23
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Overseas interventions of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/f5b84 ]Aug 21 14:23
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Category:History of United States expansionism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/f5b85 ]Aug 21 14:23
schestowitzhttps://archive.fosdem.org/2013/schedule/event/freedombox/Aug 21 14:36
TechrightsBot-trarchive.fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2013 - FreedomBox 1.0  [ http://ur1.ca/f5bgm ]Aug 21 14:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972186Aug 21 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA's sister, the NSA, has not exactly a good track record when it comes to truth. At the NSA, saying the truth is the *exception*.Aug 21 14:36
schestowitz"All lies to protect the one lie that matters: assassins run the world."Aug 21 14:36
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2971681Aug 21 14:58
TechrightsBot-trwww.joindiaspora.com | safety instructio...  [ http://ur1.ca/f5bww ]Aug 21 14:58
schestowitzWhat if you're British or Australia (or Japanese, Cypriot..)?Aug 21 14:59
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2971534Aug 21 15:08
schestowitz"Made a conscious decision a while back to start physically interacting with people rather than sending mail/im and the difference is astounding! You learn a great respect and tolerance for what people have to go through in their lives. I do feel like I've become a substitute shrink, but you learn a lot from what you hear. Ramble on!"Aug 21 15:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.joindiaspora.com | Nothing makes you...Aug 21 15:08
schestowitzPeople make friends online for reasons like thatAug 21 15:08
DaemonFCOur local government has finally done something competent.Aug 21 15:20
DaemonFCInstead of continuing to hold onto a growing budget surplus, they decided to pay off our higher interest bonds, repair some roads, invest in some machinery that requires fewer city employees to operate...Aug 21 15:22
DaemonFCThey also decided to cancel the second round of iPad purchases.Aug 21 15:22
DaemonFCThe pilot program that was funded mostly out of federal ARRA grants was out of funding, and they didn't want to come back and demand local tax increases to cover the extra million dollars to hand them out to kids in elementary and middle school.Aug 21 15:23
DaemonFCI wrote a letter to the newspaper that was published about this, and attended a city hall meeting to voice my objections to the second round of iPad purchases.Aug 21 15:23
DaemonFCI brought up all sorts of issues. The up front costs, the cost of buying a new license for each textbook every year even if nothing significant had changed, the fact that kids are hard on electronics, the fact that they'll be obsolete every few years anyway...Aug 21 15:25
DaemonFCWhen the city ran out of federal funding, the high school went back to hard copies of textbooks, and I don't know what they're using the iPads for now.Aug 21 15:26
DaemonFCPorn, most likely.Aug 21 15:26
DaemonFCMaybe there's even a pervert school employee that uses the RAT that they install on them to spy on children in their homes.Aug 21 15:27
DaemonFCThat's happened with Macbooks before.Aug 21 15:27
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DaemonFCWhile I'm thinking about it, I need to put my new car insurance card in my wallet.Aug 21 15:29
DaemonFCIt suddenly struck me while I was out doing my grocery shopping earlier that the card in my wallet was expired.Aug 21 15:30
DaemonFCThey don't automatically fine you for that, but they do give you 15 days to show up at the police headquarters with a copy of your current card showing you had insurance when you were pulled over.Aug 21 15:31
DaemonFCIt gives the pencil pushers a chance to fuck up, fine you, and revoke your driver's license.Aug 21 15:31
DaemonFCIt happened to my mom once and they didn't even tell her they did it.Aug 21 15:31
DaemonFCA year later, something came in the mail saying her license was eligible to be renewed, and she had been driving a full year on a revoked license.Aug 21 15:32
DaemonFC:)Aug 21 15:32
DaemonFCTime to shred the old policy and cards...Aug 21 15:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jahkarta/status/370190526747639808Aug 21 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr@jahkarta: #cong #iran #dr #guate #braz #chile #viet | Mapped: 7 of the govs USA has overthrown http://t.co/fgjwhluDSO via @schestowitzAug 21 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.foreignpolicy.com | Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown - By J. Dana Stuster | Foreign PolicyAug 21 15:35
DaemonFCYep. Take my money. Give it to banana republic third world dictators.Aug 21 15:38
DaemonFC"We give them the old stuff, then use the new stuff on them." -Bill HicksAug 21 15:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2971839Aug 21 15:43
TechrightsBot-tr@rysiek@joindiaspora.com reshared: safety instructions...Aug 21 15:43
schestowitz"If you are Australian, you run into each other upside down and float off into space.""Aug 21 15:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972298Aug 21 15:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: a pic of ur tits...Aug 21 15:44
schestowitz"From a valentine's card: "There are three great tits in the world: Jacques Tits, who received his PhD in mathematics at the age of 20, and yours.""Aug 21 15:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972111Aug 21 15:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Android really a #Linux distribution? http://www.itworld.com/open-source/369810/android-really-linux-distribution "I have never had a problem with distros that contain non-free software."Aug 21 15:44
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.itworld.com | Is Android really a Linux distribution?  | ITworld  [ http://ur1.ca/f5cre ]Aug 21 15:44
schestowitz"it doesn't even have normal terminal and shell. i don't think about it as about linux."Aug 21 15:44
schestowitz"It's Linux, it's just not GNU/Linux."Aug 21 15:45
schestowitz"It's Linux. Case closed."Aug 21 15:45
schestowitziophk: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/78762.htmlAug 21 15:57
TechrightsBot-trwww.linuxinsider.com | Groklaw Shutters Doors Over Email Privacy Concerns | Privacy | LinuxInsider  [ http://ur1.ca/f5d0i ]Aug 21 15:57
schestowitzthis was an excuse IMHOAug 21 15:57
schestowitzA convenient thing to blame while she was planning to secede anyway\Aug 21 15:58
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2013/08/20/bigbrother-stops-groklaw/Aug 21 16:01
TechrightsBot-trmrpogson.com | BigBrother Stops Groklaw  |   Robert Pogson  [ http://ur1.ca/f5d41 ]Aug 21 16:01
schestowitz"What the trolls, and M$ and lots of other bad boys couldn’t do has been accomplished by the US government through its high-handed trampling of the basic human right to privacy. Governments should be serving people, not enslaving them. She responded to the shutdown of Lavabit and the whole Snowden affair the best way she could, by reducing exposure on the Internet. Is this what the USA wants? To shut down the Internet which has been Aug 21 16:01
schestowitza brilliant contribution to technology? Or was this the scheme from the beginning, to connect everyone so they could be manipulated more efficiently?"Aug 21 16:01
schestowitzWas this really new to her?Aug 21 16:01
schestowitzI warned her about email ages agoAug 21 16:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2971821Aug 21 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Forget "DoNotTrack", add to IPv6 "do not route through US" flag http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/154613/nsa-surveillance-covers-75-percent-of-us-internet-traffic-report.html http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/317971-nsa-surveillance-said-to-be-broader-than-initially-believedAug 21 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.turkishweekly.net | NSA surveillance covers 75 percent of US Internet traffic - report , 21 August 2013  [ http://ur1.ca/f5d7w ]Aug 21 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr-> thehill.com | NSA surveillance said to be broader than initially believed - The Hill's Hillicon Valley  [ http://ur1.ca/f5d7x ]Aug 21 16:06
schestowitz"However for those of us in the USA, we're up a creek without a paddle. Trapped in we do, trapped if we don't."Aug 21 16:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/370205059054723073Aug 21 16:28
TechrightsBot-tr@davidgerard: Hey @schestowitz, dig this http://t.co/qBdaSGd2jC and then this http://t.co/CWuOXxrTWE http://t.co/EuStFhqrnWAug 21 16:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.rightscale.com | Cloud Cost Analysis: How Much Could Wikipedia Save in the Cloud?Aug 21 16:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> lists.wikimedia.org | [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to WindowsAug 21 16:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> lists.wikimedia.org | [Wikitech-l] You know, we really should shift to WindowsAug 21 16:28
schestowitzI heard Microsoft shut down its 'encyclopaedia' that it had acquired. Why not just sell WP to MSFT? :-)Aug 21 16:28
schestowitzMaybe we should host #techrights on Azure... http://techrights.org/2013/07/15/surveillance-in-azure/Aug 21 16:30
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Ubuntu and SUSE ‘Cloud’ Users Spied on Through Microsoft Windows Azure (With NSA Back Doors) | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/f5dt3 ]Aug 21 16:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972111Aug 21 16:31
schestowitz"It's bionic Linux. Not compatible with glibc Linux and it creates unhealthy competition on mobile."Aug 21 16:31
schestowitzhttp://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/08/21/what-al-jazeera-america-didnt-say-about-climate/195510Aug 21 16:32
TechrightsBot-trmediamatters.org | What Al Jazeera America Didn't Say About Climate Change | Blog | Media Matters for America  [ http://ur1.ca/f5dux ]Aug 21 16:32
schestowitziophk: http://www.technewsworld.com/story/78760.htmlAug 21 16:44
TechrightsBot-trwww.technewsworld.com | Gotta Access Linux Files? Paragon ExtFS Delivers the Goods | Reviews | TechNewsWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/f5e3j ]Aug 21 16:44
schestowitzECTAug 21 16:44
schestowitz"Linux Files"Aug 21 16:45
schestowitzRating: 5 starsAug 21 16:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972265Aug 21 17:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Woman in court for taking 'waste' food from #Tesco bins http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8548653/Woman-in-court-for-taking-waste-food-from-Tesco-bins.html Africans would #facepalm over itAug 21 17:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.telegraph.co.uk | Woman in court for taking 'waste' food from Tesco bins - Telegraph  [ http://ur1.ca/f5epm ]Aug 21 17:12
schestowitz"even german judges have sentenced people who "containered" for stealing! ( looking for thrown away food in wastebins is called "containern" in germ-money ;-) )"Aug 21 17:12
iophkschestowitz: if it helps bring in EXT as the new standard, it can't be entirely bad. ;)Aug 21 17:14
iophkBut the news here might not be what it does but that it is being covered at all.Aug 21 17:14
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2972631Aug 21 17:17
TechrightsBot-trwww.joindiaspora.com | Reshare by oAnth [soon here inactive]  [ http://ur1.ca/f5esw ]Aug 21 17:17
schestowitz"what do you mean? i need to change my thinkpad again?"Aug 21 17:17
schestowitziophk: Paragon is proprietaryAug 21 17:17
iophkyes, I expected thatAug 21 17:17
schestowitzI don't know if Free SW implmentation would render the patents 'free'Aug 21 17:17
schestowitzBut it mightAug 21 17:17
iophkbut it is interesting that they now see a need or a market for reading EXTAug 21 17:18
schestowitzsee, distrobution of the exfat driver is now... well, not restricted by copyright law, just copyleftAug 21 17:18
iophkFor a long time M$ was keeping other filesystems out completely.Aug 21 17:18
iophkThe grip is weakening, too bad PJ is fading away.Aug 21 17:18
schestowitzSo unless it's a large company distributing it, it can't be stoppedAug 21 17:18
schestowitzcompany can point to download link, like for MPEG codecs, such that people fetch the missing FS driverAug 21 17:18
schestowitzFile system, not Free SoftwareAug 21 17:19
iophkIt would be best if it were Free Aug 21 17:19
schestowitzEssentially it makes the patents easier for end users to get aroundAug 21 17:19
iophkby farAug 21 17:19
schestowitz[17:18] <iophk> but it is interesting that they now see a need or a market for reading EXTAug 21 17:19
schestowitzA lot of USB sticks are formatted wuith FATAug 21 17:20
schestowitzAnd many media players support onlu FATAug 21 17:20
iophkyes USB sticks and CF and SD only formated with FAT but that is a firmware disabilityAug 21 17:20
schestowitzSo I couldn't reflash or reformat it, that would brick the devicesAug 21 17:20
iophkbased on intertiaAug 21 17:20
schestowitzFAT support in Linux is vasly better han in WindowsAug 21 17:20
iophkFAT itself is garbage that should have gone away long ago.Aug 21 17:21
iophkIt's for floppy drives.Aug 21 17:21
schestowitzI tried to copy 1000 or so photos to USB from a Vista7 laptop of my wife's cousin, would take 14 HOURSAug 21 17:21
schestowitzIn Linux it's less than 14 minutesAug 21 17:21
schestowitzI don't know why exactly, the same goes for deletion, but the difference smallerAug 21 17:21
schestowitzThis is the latest v of WIndowsAug 21 17:21
schestowitzMaybe residue of Vista's file transfer bugsAug 21 17:22
schestowitzOr poor desighn ratherAug 21 17:22
schestowitzWhich became infamous and make Vista a no-go in productive enterprrisesAug 21 17:22
iophkSame goes for Windows, on technical merits it should have gone away long ago.Aug 21 17:22
iophkVista and derivatives are apparently extra slow.Aug 21 17:22
iophkhttps://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=cache:nygQkTKCKXQJ:http://answers.microsoft.com/thread/a5b548ad-9102-40f3-a320-6cd1cabd1f3d%2Bvista+slow+copy&oe=utf-8&hl=en&ct=clnkAug 21 17:23
TechrightsBot-trwebcache.googleusercontent.com | Why is Windows 7 still as slow as Vista with File Copy?? - Microsoft Community  [ http://ur1.ca/f5ext ]Aug 21 17:23
schestowitziophk: https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/370219312377643008Aug 21 17:24
TechrightsBot-tr@davidgerard: @schestowitz here is the tweet, with a full selection of WMF smackdowns https://t.co/CUsXSL2B4tAug 21 17:24
TechrightsBot-tr@hassankhosseini: Cloud Cost Analysis: How Much Could Wikipedia Save in the Cloud? http://t.co/wDebUeePp5Aug 21 17:24
schestowitziophk: my wife asked me to install the latest Mint on her laptopAug 21 17:24
schestowitzWhich DE? Not sure...Aug 21 17:25
iophkClean it for mono.  XFCE is a good choice for many.Aug 21 17:25
schestowitzKDE not so similar to what most peopl expect, and they don't use Activities and stuff..Aug 21 17:25
iophkIt's fairly flexible but plain enough.Aug 21 17:25
schestowitzXfce I find a little uglyAug 21 17:25
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DaemonFCThose mosquitoes got me pretty good the other day.Aug 21 17:25
iophkUgly is one of the selling points for some people.Aug 21 17:25
schestowitzI also don't know so well how to configure itAug 21 17:26
schestowitzNeeds to just be fast, good DVD support out of the box, Flash, etc.Aug 21 17:26
schestowitzShe uses all thoseAug 21 17:26
*DaemonFC breaks out the cortisone cream. :PAug 21 17:26
schestowitzNot gaminghAug 21 17:26
schestowitzUnity makes ubuntu out of the questionAug 21 17:27
schestowitzprobably a project for next month, I'm thinking Mint 13/`14 KDEAug 21 17:27
schestowitzGNOME3 is too dumbed downAug 21 17:27
iophkSome of the changes with KDE have been right inconvenient.Aug 21 17:27
schestowitzI have all the major DE on the debian boxAug 21 17:28
iophkthe new applications menu is very clumsy and runs the mouse accross too much screen real estate just accomplising basic functionsAug 21 17:28
schestowitzJust needs to let her try a fewAug 21 17:28
iophkShe may gravitate to one of them naturally.Aug 21 17:28
schestowitzapplications menu won't matterAug 21 17:28
schestowitzshe'd use the browser and media player for the most partAug 21 17:29
schestowitzThe rest is done on androidAug 21 17:29
schestowitzPalm Desktop tooAug 21 17:29
schestowitzor jpilotAug 21 17:29
schestowitzFinnish education http://cdn.slowrobot.com/3420131500195.jpgAug 21 17:31
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2972594Aug 21 17:32
TechrightsBot-trwww.joindiaspora.com | One of the most f...  [ http://ur1.ca/f5f5t ]Aug 21 17:32
schestowitzI have those dreams tooAug 21 17:32
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/08/pamela-jones-voluntarily-shuts-down.htmlAug 21 17:53
TechrightsBot-trwww.linuxadvocates.com | Pamela Jones Voluntarily Shuts Down Groklaw.net ~ Linux Advocates  [ http://ur1.ca/f5fnu ]Aug 21 17:53
schestowitz" In her situation, she deals with and contacts many people throughout the world in the highest echelons and as such she deals with highly sensitive information, naturally."Aug 21 17:53
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abeNd-orgpalm desktop? wow, what palm does she still have? T3? Lifedrive?Aug 21 18:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972875Aug 21 18:14
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: UNIGINE Is Probably the Most Powerful Gaming Engine on Linux http://news.softpedia.com/news/UNIGINE-Is-Probably-the-Most-Powerful-Gaming-Engine-on-Linux-376655.shtmlAug 21 18:14
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.softpedia.com | UNIGINE Is Probably the Most Powerful Gaming Engine on Linux  [ http://ur1.ca/f5g19 ]Aug 21 18:14
schestowitz"I just wish that the engine wasn't so expensive..."Aug 21 18:14
schestowitzabeNd-org: OMG LifeDrive!!Aug 21 18:14
schestowitzI forgot about itAug 21 18:14
schestowitzno, it's Tungsten, we have two, my wife's is newerAug 21 18:15
schestowitzmostly used for stuff like grocery listsAug 21 18:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972594Aug 21 18:16
TechrightsBot-tr@deadsuperhero@joindiaspora.com: One of the most frustrating recurring dreams I have: going to school, only to realize I don't know my schedule or what classes I'm taking.Aug 21 18:16
schestowitz"Aug 21 18:16
schestowitzActually commonly i dream i didn't made it throu highschool and find myself with the same old questions again and again.Aug 21 18:16
schestowitzLike in this case, I understud it was a dream of yours, not your nightmares you where talking about @sean!.Aug 21 18:16
schestowitz"Aug 21 18:17
schestowitzMy dreams about high school have variation; I shared this with my mother only days ago. One variation is me forgetting to take some classes; another is exam without preparation; others are misunderstood absence, but it's never a nightmare, just a nuisance, feeling like there's work to catch up with until the dream is over.Aug 21 18:18
abeNd-orgschestowitz ya, lifedrive with a 4gb compactflash was the bomb in its dayAug 21 18:26
abeNd-orgi couldnt afford one, i had an M105 with the kodak camera addon. it actually took pretty good picturesAug 21 18:36
schestowitzI wanted to buy one of those camsAug 21 18:56
schestowitzfor the m130Aug 21 18:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972981Aug 21 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Most Exciting Linux 3.11 Kernel Features http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ0MDY #linux #kernelAug 21 18:56
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] The Most Exciting Linux 3.11 Kernel Features  [ http://ur1.ca/f5gt9 ]Aug 21 18:56
schestowitz"Ha, I like this the most: "It's still being investigated, but early indications are that the Linux 3.11 kernel is consuming less power at least for Intel CPUs. ""Aug 21 18:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2971392Aug 21 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hope in humanity... resto... lost. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoqmHMPtcPU killing had become a sport.Aug 21 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.youtube.com | Grizzly Hunt - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/f4x2d ]Aug 21 18:57
schestowitz"hunters lost their humanity like centuries ago ..."Aug 21 18:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972111Aug 21 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Android really a #Linux distribution? http://www.itworld.com/open-source/369810/android-really-linux-distribution "I have never had a problem with distros that contain non-free software."Aug 21 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.itworld.com | Is Android really a Linux distribution?  | ITworld  [ http://ur1.ca/f5cre ]Aug 21 18:57
schestowitz"It's Android/Linux"Aug 21 18:57
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schestowitzhttp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/484007/20130627/kate-middleton-duchess-cambridge-shopping-antiques-hungerford.htm?utm_source=taboola&UTM_medium=CPCAug 21 19:33
TechrightsBot-trwww.ibtimes.co.uk | Kate Middleton’s 57-Room 'Apartment' Makeover Costing Taxpayers £1m - IBTimes UKAug 21 19:33
MinceRgeekings Aug 21 19:46
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iophkhttp://linuxgizmos.com/crowdfunding-a-custom-linux-sbc-the-easy-way/Aug 21 20:20
TechrightsBot-trlinuxgizmos.com | Crowdfunding a custom Linux SBC the easy way ·  LinuxGizmos.com  [ http://ur1.ca/f5igr ]Aug 21 20:20
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sebsebseb Aug 21 20:22
msb_Pamela Jones says she is shutting down Groklaw:  http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130818120421175Aug 21 20:29
TechrightsBot-trwww.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Forced Exposure ~pj  [ http://ur1.ca/f4rka ]Aug 21 20:29
msb_PLEASE, EVERYONE, SEND HER A LETTER ASKING HER TO RECONSIDER AND KEEP GROKLAW FUNCTIONING!Aug 21 20:29
MinceRmaybe it could be done if she used a non-usian e-mail providerAug 21 20:30
msb_She already has one, p.jones at mykolab.com in Switzerland.Aug 21 20:32
msb_Groklaw is NOT archived in the Wayback Machine.  If she takes it down, it's lost!Aug 21 20:32
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MinceRsomeone could httrack it :)Aug 21 20:37
msb_I tried looking for the "Comes v. MS" section in Wayback and it says a robots.txt file prevented archiving.Aug 21 20:37
MinceRyou can tell the downloader to ignore robots.txt, though :>Aug 21 20:38
msb_Wonder how big it is?Aug 21 20:39
MinceRthat's what she said.Aug 21 20:39
MinceRno idea, thoughAug 21 20:39
msb_She asked people to download the site?Aug 21 20:40
MinceRnoAug 21 20:40
MinceRjust the joke.Aug 21 20:40
iophkhttps://torrentfreak.com/comcast-threatens-to-sue-torrentfreak-for-copyright-infringement-130821/Aug 21 20:41
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Comcast Threatens to Sue TorrentFreak for Copyright Infringement (updated) | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/f5iuq ]Aug 21 20:41
iophkhttp://techcrunch.com/2013/08/21/jolla-closes-first-pre-sales/Aug 21 20:44
TechrightsBot-trtechcrunch.com | MeeGo Startup Jolla Closes Pre-Sales Campaign For Its First Phone, Booking Orders Of Up To 50,000 Units  |  TechCrunch  [ http://ur1.ca/f5iwt ]Aug 21 20:44
msb_Great article, found by complaint from psychopaths in COLA:  http://techrights.org/2013/08/20/police-state/Aug 21 20:53
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Actions of US Government Shut Down Groklaw Pre-emptively; Observing the US’ Sanctions Economy and the Danger of Expansion to Europe | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/f4ur1 ]Aug 21 20:53
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MinceR< anon> http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2006/04/immortal-technique-rock-the-boat-part-i/Aug 21 22:06
TechrightsBot-trwww.xxlmag.com | Immortal Technique Rock The Boat (Part I) - XXL  [ http://ur1.ca/f5khs ]Aug 21 22:06
MinceR< anon> This guy has unu$ual wi$dom.Aug 21 22:06
MinceR< anon> Check his answer to the second que$tion.Aug 21 22:06
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XFaCEMinceR: why the $Aug 21 22:06
XFaCEiojust saw thatAug 21 22:06
XFaCElooooooolAug 21 22:06
XFaCEoopsAug 21 22:06
MinceRthat guy tends to do thatAug 21 22:07
XFaCEiophk isn''t hereAug 21 22:07
XFaCEdammitAug 21 22:07
MinceRall the time :)Aug 21 22:07
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sebsebsebAnyone here chat about tech to girls they like? heh hehAug 21 23:32

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