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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972874Aug 22 07:13
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UNIGINE Is Probably the Most Powerful Gaming Engine on Linux http://news.softpedia.com/news/UNIGINE-Is-Probably-the-Most-Powerful-Gaming-Engine-on-Linux-376655.shtml #unigine #gamesAug 22 07:13
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.softpedia.com | UNIGINE Is Probably the Most Powerful Gaming Engine on Linux  [ http://ur1.ca/f5g19 ]Aug 22 07:13
schestowitz"If only it could be FOSS ! :("Aug 22 07:13
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972186Aug 22 07:32
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA's sister, the NSA, has not exactly a good track record when it comes to truth. At the NSA, saying the truth is the *exception*.Aug 22 07:32
schestowitz"Can't tell if you mean me or the Doc, but my list of assassin names is found on the voter roles and enlistment lists of every government on the planet."Aug 22 07:33
JimmyCartertweets this fresh get you assassinated #superfly #newnormalAug 22 07:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/370442705374937088Aug 22 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr@gnutelephony: http://t.co/PEEhZrgK1g windows 8 banned by German govt for integrating forced hardware surveillance & backdoors @schestowitzAug 22 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr-> investmentwatchblog.com | LEAKED: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA | InvestmentWatchAug 22 08:13
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/the-nsas-phony-national-firewall-proposal-7000019651/Aug 22 08:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.zdnet.com | The NSA's phony national firewall proposal | ZDNetAug 22 08:39
schestowitzhttp://www.breakingnews.com/item/ahZzfmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy13d3ctaHJkcg0LEgRTZWVkGNPltxMM/2013/08/21/sen-udall-d-colorado-statement-regarding-nsa-doAug 22 08:40
schestowitzwot?Aug 22 08:40
TechrightsBot-trwww.breakingnews.com | Sen. Udall (D-Colorado) statement regarding NSA documents: 'I am glad the NSA is taking this step at owning its mistakes' - @frankthorpNBC - breakingnews.com  [ http://ur1.ca/f5um4 ]Aug 22 08:40
schestowitzhttp://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/no-pleasure-ride-on-a-unicorn-the-case-for-uncivil-civil-rights-activism/0019998Aug 22 08:42
TechrightsBot-trtheamericanmuslim.org | The American Muslim (TAM)  [ http://ur1.ca/f5uni ]Aug 22 08:42
schestowitzhttp://americanfreepress.net/?p=12348Aug 22 08:44
TechrightsBot-tramericanfreepress.net | Shocking Truth About Drones Kept from American Public | American Free PressAug 22 08:44
schestowitzhttp://www.theage.com.au/comment/drones-put-australia-in-firing-line-20130725-2qkdt.htmlAug 22 08:47
schestowitz|Aug 22 08:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.theage.com.au | Drones put Australia in firing line  [ http://ur1.ca/f5urh ]Aug 22 08:47
schestowitzPakistan says the US drone strikes that have killed 3500 of its citizens are war crimes. Now Australia could face legal action for its role in the program.Aug 22 08:47
schestowitzRead more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/drones-put-australia-in-firing-line-20130725-2qkdt.html#ixzz2cgLYq9A1Aug 22 08:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.theage.com.au | Drones put Australia in firing line  [ http://ur1.ca/f5url ]Aug 22 08:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/370454917409804288 https://twitter.com/jackolas/status/370455304976093184 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/370455569338884096Aug 22 09:04
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: German Government Warns Key Entities Not To Use Windows 8 – Links The NSA - http://t.co/n38GYgZ5Sr bombshell from #diezeit (v @schestowitz)Aug 22 09:04
TechrightsBot-tr@jackolas: @glynmoody @schestowitz lol tpm, so is it finally being used for malfeasance? Such a dead story now kinda.Aug 22 09:04
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @jackolas @schestowitz well, the confirmation by german government is importantAug 22 09:04
schestowitzThey also warned against UEFI (for secure boot) about a year agoAug 22 09:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jackolas/status/370456290251640833Aug 22 09:06
TechrightsBot-tr@jackolas: @glynmoody @schestowitz sounds like reasonable institutional paranoia (good for states/spies). I don't know if it adds much data though.Aug 22 09:06
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schestowitzIt's not paranoid. The UK makes mistakes on this http://techrights.org/2013/07/01/ministry-of-defence-and-nsa/Aug 22 09:06
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | The British Military Gives the United States Back Doors Into All of Its Computers | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/ehxmr ]Aug 22 09:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370454450747752448  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370454675897991168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370455179801657344 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370455402481471488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370455688902111232 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370455933551652864 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370456213815054336Aug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: CIA: lots of money to kill people, not enough people to inform people. CIA closes office that declassifies http://t.co/2pm8oNRDFsAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.latimes.com | CIA closes office that declassifies historical materials - latimes.comAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: The "scholars say will mean fewer [CIA] public disclosures about long-buried intelligence secrets and scandals." http://t.co/2pm8oNRDFsAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: There have been hundreds if not thousands of articles last week about declassifying Area 51, Iran coup, illegal CIA surveillance of ChomskyAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: British War Machine gets itself a #Petraeus http://t.co/YZzOyHTaPW will he cheat us, too?Aug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.defencemanagement.com | Former CIA director Petraeus joins UK's RUSI defence think tank - Defence ManagementAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Here is the recent legacy of #Petraeus http://t.co/Zgj4CchBjM #syria #aq #ciaAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.telegraph.co.uk | CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked' - TelegraphAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Gitmo defendant’s lawyer lawyers: CIA gave ‘Zero Dark Thirty’ makers more info than his defense http://t.co/Wn8iyUkRdz #cia #propagandaAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.rawstory.com | Gitmo defendant’s lawyer lawyers: CIA gave ‘Zero Dark Thirty’ makers more info than his defense | The Raw StoryAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: CIA Admits It Hired People to Impersonate Enemies and Commit Terrorism in Iran http://t.co/1zyyiOpN9i covert methodsAug 22 09:09
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.globalresearch.ca | CIA Admits It Hired People to Impersonate Enemies and Commit Terrorism in Iran  |  Global ResearchAug 22 09:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2974685Aug 22 09:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nations are finally waking up to appreciate the threat of a cabal of corporations working with the NSA. First China and Russia, now Germany.Aug 22 09:11
schestowitz"The nsa is the handmaiden working for the cabal of corporations."Aug 22 09:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2974747Aug 22 09:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Lies! NEW New Revelations http://www.benzinga.com/general/politics/13/08/3856070/nsa-lies-new-new-revelations abolish it, shut it downAug 22 09:11
schestowitz"Aug 22 09:11
schestowitzThe thing of it is this, quite simply; You must not believe anything any secretive agency says.Aug 22 09:11
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.benzinga.com | NSA Lies! NEW New Revelations | BenzingaAug 22 09:12
schestowitzThis is obvious.Aug 22 09:12
schestowitz"Aug 22 09:12
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DaemonFChttp://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/rebecca-omonira-oyekanmi/lone-parent-trapAug 22 12:52
TechrightsBot-trwww.opendemocracy.net | The lone parent trap | openDemocracy  [ http://ur1.ca/f5xa8 ]Aug 22 12:52
DaemonFC"Lone parents are obliged to seek work as soon as their youngest child turns 5. "Aug 22 12:53
DaemonFCDoesn't that just create a perverse incentive to space out your kids five years apart?Aug 22 12:53
DaemonFCA couple of decades later, the jobs crisis will be worse because there are now many people without a job when it was only one.Aug 22 12:54
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DaemonFCThere's so many people out there that make themselves unemployable that there's always going to be trouble for them to find work no matter what else they do.Aug 22 12:55
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DaemonFCEmployers can't ask if you have kids or not, but it's not hard for that information to come out in a job interview.Aug 22 12:56
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iophkhttp://www.boston.com/business/innovation/blogs/inside-the-hive/2013/08/21/huffinton-trolls-uglier-than-ever-cutting-off-anonymous-comments/0RQXoqsI5VWD8f3wEs0i2L/blog.htmlAug 22 14:49
TechrightsBot-trwww.boston.com | Huffington: Trolls uglier than ever, so we’re cutting off anonymous comments - Innovation - Boston.com  [ http://ur1.ca/f5yfu ]Aug 22 14:49
abeNd-orghttp://getprsm.com/Aug 22 15:30
TechrightsBot-trgetprsm.com | PRSM - The Sharing NetworkAug 22 15:30
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2975753  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2975816 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2975832 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2975898Aug 22 16:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370555817768280064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370562330180198400 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370565139495653376Aug 22 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Microsoft is Still Cheating in Benchmarks, Gets Banned by Leading Benchmarks Authority http://t.co/EmJV01hVNe #microsoftAug 22 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Microsoft is Still Cheating in Benchmarks, Gets Banned by Leading Benchmarks Authority | TechrightsAug 22 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Huffington attacks free speech with #censorship http://t.co/aiiwWnQg9AAug 22 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Techrights Scope Expansion http://t.co/lIRu2tTGDN #techrightsAug 22 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | Techrights Scope Expansion | TechrightsAug 22 16:20
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2975972Aug 22 16:21
TechrightsBot-trwww.joindiaspora.com | NSA Back Doors Ge...  [ http://ur1.ca/f5zcs ]Aug 22 16:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370566558474436608Aug 22 16:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: NSA Back Doors Get Microsoft Windows Excluded From Procurement in Germany  http://t.co/eIzBzn65pR #germany #nsa #windowsAug 22 16:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> techrights.org | NSA Back Doors Get Microsoft Windows Excluded From Procurement in Germany | TechrightsAug 22 16:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2972186Aug 22 16:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA's sister, the NSA, has not exactly a good track record when it comes to truth. At the NSA, saying the truth is the *exception*.Aug 22 16:23
schestowitz"meant you, was afraid to hear something like, the illuminati, the zionists..."Aug 22 16:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2975753Aug 22 16:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When I type lets #Android decides to always rewrite it as let's, even when lets is correct. This is an antifeature that'd embarrass many.Aug 22 16:23
schestowitz"I also had many misunderstanding with this "feature" until I disabled it completely."Aug 22 16:24
schestowitz"What about "clicking" a few times on lets? Android then should lern the word "lets"..."Aug 22 16:24
schestowitzAssembling a dictionary takes too long. Google could train these better..Aug 22 16:24
schestowitzhttp://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/two-birds-one-stone/Aug 22 16:31
TechrightsBot-trblogs.ec.europa.eu | Neelie Kroes blog -   Guest blog: Two Birds, One Stone - European Commission  [ http://ur1.ca/f5zgb ]Aug 22 16:31
schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370570703739043840   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370569604307107841  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370572336308953088     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370572824978915328  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/370573723646300160Aug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Open source culture thrives in Chattanooga  http://t.co/bUrPvgZxqE #opensourceAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> opensource.com | Chattanooga as a hub of digital innovation | opensource.comAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Hands-on with the Ubuntu superphone that will probably never be made http://t.co/RwJFIt1Qxi why so negative? #ubuntu #linuxAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.wired.co.uk | Hands-on with the Ubuntu superphone that will probably never be made (Wired UK)Aug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Is Linux coming out too fast  http://t.co/15wrFXG0Ok #linuxAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.fudzilla.com | Is Linux coming out too fastAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Review of LXLE 12.04.3 Paradigm Linux Distro http://t.co/Gttgbk91zK #lxle #gnu #linuxAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.product-reviews.net | Review of LXLE 12.04.3 Paradigm Linux Distro | Product Reviews NetAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: On Leaving Ubuntu http://t.co/Ra26pYmcFM #ubuntu #linuxAug 22 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> benjaminkerensa.com | On Leaving Ubuntu - Benjamin Kerensa dot ComAug 22 17:07
DaemonFCSheldon Cooper: No, we have to take in nourishment, expel waste, and breathe in enough oxygen to keep our cells from dying. Everything else is purely optional. Aug 22 17:15
DaemonFC:)Aug 22 17:15
MinceRwe don't have to keep our cells from dyingAug 22 17:16
DaemonFCI was looking around the house to see if I had anything to put on these mosquito bites to stop them from itching.Aug 22 17:17
DaemonFCI could run to the store, but I just don't feel like it.Aug 22 17:17
DaemonFCI ended up settling on my skin bracer after shave.Aug 22 17:18
DaemonFCStrangely enough, it worked.Aug 22 17:18
MinceRskin bracer?Aug 22 17:18
DaemonFCyeahAug 22 17:18
DaemonFCdenatured alcohol and mentholAug 22 17:19
DaemonFCMinceR, Some people who are truly desperate alcoholics end up drinking mouth wash or after shave. I saw a news report recently where another teenager killed themselves with it.Aug 22 17:21
DaemonFCGood riddance.Aug 22 17:21
DaemonFCIf you're stupid enough to drink mouthwash, the world does not require your presence.Aug 22 17:21
DaemonFCThey denature it to get around excise taxes imposed on alcoholic beverages. Drinking *some* shouldn't kill you, it will just make you violently ill. :)Aug 22 17:22
DaemonFCHe drank three liters.Aug 22 17:22
DaemonFCDied of alcohol poisoning.Aug 22 17:22
DaemonFCListerine wouldn't say how they denature it for mouthwash, but the code of federal regulations only lists one process that's approved.Aug 22 17:23
DaemonFCAddition of thymol, menthol, and eucalyptol.Aug 22 17:24
DaemonFCListerine lists all three as ingredients..Aug 22 17:24
DaemonFCThose alone wouldn't kill someone, but be ready to puke your guts out. :)Aug 22 17:24
DaemonFCThere's another process that teenagers are using since the news sensationalized their reporting of it.Aug 22 17:25
DaemonFCMix salt with hand sanitizer, and the alcohol will separate from it.Aug 22 17:26
DaemonFCSo now they're pouring it into drinks.Aug 22 17:26
DaemonFCHmm, they add eucalyptol to cigarettes as a flavoring, according to Wikipedia.Aug 22 17:27
DaemonFCAlong with as many as 598 other additives.Aug 22 17:27
DaemonFCI suppose one of the big ones is free base nicotine.Aug 22 17:28
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DaemonFCThey saturate their cigarettes with it to make them incredibly addictive.Aug 22 17:28
DaemonFCI don't know why American cigarettes are the most popular in the world. They allow stuff in them that most other countries have banned.Aug 22 17:29
DaemonFCThey're probably among the worst for you.Aug 22 17:29
DaemonFCMinceR, That's changing somewhat. I saw cigarettes at the gas station that boasted that they were additive free and organic.Aug 22 17:30
sebsebsebDaemonFC: schestowitz MinceR NO Ubuntu Edges!Aug 22 17:30
DaemonFCI pointed to the display and quipped "Those are some very health conscious smokers!".Aug 22 17:30
DaemonFCI don't see how Ubuntu would be a worse thing than what's already out there.Aug 22 17:31
DaemonFCAndroid and iOS with marginal "Windows" (which doesn't run Windows applications) presence.Aug 22 17:31
DaemonFCDon't get me wrong. I appreciate the irony that the mechanism that Microsoft has been using to trap people on desktop Windows is keeping mobile Windows devices from going anywhere.Aug 22 17:36
sebsebsebDaemonFC: would have been both Android and Ubuntu on the Edge thoughAug 22 17:37
sebsebsebDaemonFC: their's acstual consumer choice that's known about as well by manyAug 22 17:38
sebsebsebwhen it comes to phonesAug 22 17:38
sebsebsebunlike with the desktops/laptopsAug 22 17:38
sebsebsebso that's a major difference right thereAug 22 17:38
sebsebsebDaemonFC: I guess when people get given proper choice, they reolise that running WIndows may not be that goodAug 22 17:38
DaemonFCI'm surprised that Android is doing so well.Aug 22 17:38
DaemonFCIt's pretty sluggish.Aug 22 17:39
sebsebsebI am not it's got Gooble behind itAug 22 17:39
sebsebseba big brandAug 22 17:39
sebsebseba big nameAug 22 17:39
sebsebsebGoogle aboveAug 22 17:39
sebsebsebpeople love GoogleAug 22 17:39
sebsebseboh GoogleAug 22 17:39
sebsebseboh their beloved GoogleAug 22 17:39
sebsebsebheh hehAug 22 17:39
sebsebsebDaemonFC: here's one though, why is that many peopole hardly ever use their computerAug 22 17:39
sebsebseband instead just use a phone instead for most of the kind of stuff theyh would have used a computer forAug 22 17:39
sebsebsebthese daysAug 22 17:39
sebsebsebis Windows really that bad, that running  say Android on a phone instead is so much better, by thes people?Aug 22 17:40
DaemonFCI still use my desktop more than anything else.Aug 22 17:40
sebsebsebI guess their Windows isntalsl don't run wellAug 22 17:40
DaemonFCI might buy a laptop in the future.Aug 22 17:40
sebsebseband then they got this good OS on their phone and so yeah the phoenAug 22 17:40
DaemonFCI really don't like tablets at all.Aug 22 17:40
DaemonFCor smartphonesAug 22 17:40
sebsebsebyeah same here I prefer mouse and keyboardAug 22 17:40
sebsebseb,but that's what I am used to for over 15 years, plus I touch type so yeahAug 22 17:41
sebsebsebwell 15 years touch typing experienc,e used computers longer than thatAug 22 17:41
sebsebsebmain streame touch is only quite recnet really the last few years or soAug 22 17:41
sebsebsebeven thoug hteir were like some touch screen's in the 90's or early 2000's and such evenAug 22 17:41
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2047235/sinofsky-captivated-by-andreessen-horowitz-becomes-board-partner.htmlAug 22 19:00
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Former Windows boss Steven Sinofsky lands at top venture capital firm  | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/f60n0 ]Aug 22 19:00
MinceRDaemonFC: i thought that all cigarettes were organic :>Aug 22 19:08
DaemonFCit means no pesticidesAug 22 19:09
MinceRsebsebseb: i know a couple of people who are too stupid to realize that winblows is a bad choiceAug 22 19:09
MinceRbut pesticides are often organic tooAug 22 19:09
sebsebsebMinceR: oh many of those aroundAug 22 19:12
sebsebsebMinceR: most computer userse in fact sadlyAug 22 19:12
DaemonFCMinceR, Oddly enough, nicotine is a pesticide.Aug 22 19:13
MinceR:>Aug 22 19:13
DaemonFCApparently, the USDA allows it to be used in "organic" farming....Aug 22 19:13
DaemonFCSo, they could just be spraying the tobacco fields with nicotine.Aug 22 19:13
MinceR:DAug 22 19:13
DaemonFCThe whole reason the plant creates the stuff is to keep bugs from eating it.Aug 22 19:14
MinceRand it isn't working well enough?Aug 22 19:14
MinceRhttp://24.media.tumblr.com/04e29d92339f2a0f0ce32908ce5942d3/tumblr_mrxzmgZubs1qdlh1io1_400.gifAug 22 19:14
DaemonFCThey wouldn't have to grow tobacco to extract the nicotine to spray the tobacco with.Aug 22 19:14
DaemonFCSeveral other members of the nightshade family create nicotine.Aug 22 19:15
DaemonFCI don't think they have other commercial uses.Aug 22 19:15
DaemonFCMinceR, They like to maximize crop yield.Aug 22 19:16
DaemonFCIf they're losing any of it, they lose money.Aug 22 19:16
DaemonFCThat's why they use other pesticides in normal tobacco farming.Aug 22 19:16
MinceRusing nicotine as a pesticide in tobacco farming would be useless though, wouldn't it?Aug 22 19:21
DaemonFCNot if the higher concentration kills more bugs.Aug 22 19:22
DaemonFCThey must use other pesticides on non-organic tobacco for a reason.Aug 22 19:23
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DaemonFCWell, I don't ever plan on visiting the Fort Wayne zoo again without liberal application of mosquito repellent.Aug 22 21:10
DaemonFCThey have about enough of those damned things...Aug 22 21:11
DaemonFCI figured I'd get bites when I was riding one of their water rides and saw pools of stagnant water all over the place.Aug 22 21:11
DaemonFCEvidence against a kind and loving god. Viruses, bacteria, fungal infections, parasites, Republicans....Aug 22 21:12
DaemonFC ZOMG PINK PONIES says:Aug 22 21:59
DaemonFC"And then did Tyolus say to the people of the low plains, Seek not wickedness amongst your neighbours, lest it find purchase in your own house."Aug 22 21:59
DaemonFCHallowed are the Ori. Aug 22 21:59
MinceR:>Aug 22 22:06
MinceRgnAug 22 22:18
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