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DaemonFCI really don't like tablets at all.Aug 22 12:40
DaemonFCor smartphonesAug 22 12:40
sebsebsebyeah same here I prefer mouse and keyboardAug 22 12:40
sebsebseb,but that's what I am used to for over 15 years, plus I touch type so yeahAug 22 12:41
sebsebsebwell 15 years touch typing experienc,e used computers longer than thatAug 22 12:41
sebsebsebmain streame touch is only quite recnet really the last few years or soAug 22 12:41
sebsebsebeven thoug hteir were like some touch screen's in the 90's or early 2000's and such evenAug 22 12:41
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2047235/sinofsky-captivated-by-andreessen-horowitz-becomes-board-partner.htmlAug 22 14:00
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Former Windows boss Steven Sinofsky lands at top venture capital firm  | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/f60n0 ]Aug 22 14:00
MinceRDaemonFC: i thought that all cigarettes were organic :>Aug 22 14:08
DaemonFCit means no pesticidesAug 22 14:09
MinceRsebsebseb: i know a couple of people who are too stupid to realize that winblows is a bad choiceAug 22 14:09
MinceRbut pesticides are often organic tooAug 22 14:09
sebsebsebMinceR: oh many of those aroundAug 22 14:12
sebsebsebMinceR: most computer userse in fact sadlyAug 22 14:12
DaemonFCMinceR, Oddly enough, nicotine is a pesticide.Aug 22 14:13
MinceR:>Aug 22 14:13
DaemonFCApparently, the USDA allows it to be used in "organic" farming....Aug 22 14:13
DaemonFCSo, they could just be spraying the tobacco fields with nicotine.Aug 22 14:13
MinceR:DAug 22 14:13
DaemonFCThe whole reason the plant creates the stuff is to keep bugs from eating it.Aug 22 14:14
MinceRand it isn't working well enough?Aug 22 14:14
MinceRhttp://24.media.tumblr.com/04e29d92339f2a0f0ce32908ce5942d3/tumblr_mrxzmgZubs1qdlh1io1_400.gifAug 22 14:14
DaemonFCThey wouldn't have to grow tobacco to extract the nicotine to spray the tobacco with.Aug 22 14:14
DaemonFCSeveral other members of the nightshade family create nicotine.Aug 22 14:15
DaemonFCI don't think they have other commercial uses.Aug 22 14:15
DaemonFCMinceR, They like to maximize crop yield.Aug 22 14:16
DaemonFCIf they're losing any of it, they lose money.Aug 22 14:16
DaemonFCThat's why they use other pesticides in normal tobacco farming.Aug 22 14:16
MinceRusing nicotine as a pesticide in tobacco farming would be useless though, wouldn't it?Aug 22 14:21
DaemonFCNot if the higher concentration kills more bugs.Aug 22 14:22
DaemonFCThey must use other pesticides on non-organic tobacco for a reason.Aug 22 14:23
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DaemonFCWell, I don't ever plan on visiting the Fort Wayne zoo again without liberal application of mosquito repellent.Aug 22 16:10
DaemonFCThey have about enough of those damned things...Aug 22 16:11
DaemonFCI figured I'd get bites when I was riding one of their water rides and saw pools of stagnant water all over the place.Aug 22 16:11
DaemonFCEvidence against a kind and loving god. Viruses, bacteria, fungal infections, parasites, Republicans....Aug 22 16:12
DaemonFC ZOMG PINK PONIES says:Aug 22 16:59
DaemonFC"And then did Tyolus say to the people of the low plains, Seek not wickedness amongst your neighbours, lest it find purchase in your own house."Aug 22 16:59
DaemonFCHallowed are the Ori. Aug 22 16:59
MinceR:>Aug 22 17:06
MinceRgnAug 22 17:18
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iophkLOL http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/TransparencyandOpenGovernmentAug 23 09:41
TechrightsBot-trwww.whitehouse.gov | Transparency and Open Government  | The White House  [ http://ur1.ca/d2em0 ]Aug 23 09:41
MinceRgeekingsAug 23 09:49
iophkhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/08/21/why-did-red-hat-ultimately-win-the-battle-for-monetizing-linux-support/Aug 23 09:50
TechrightsBot-trwww.forbes.com | Why Did Red Hat Ultimately Win The Battle For Monetizing Linux Support? - Forbes  [ http://ur1.ca/f6b0g ]Aug 23 09:50
iophkhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324619504579027200320722342.htmlAug 23 10:09
TechrightsBot-tronline.wsj.com | Microsoft Bribe Probe Touches Russia, Pakistan Deals - WSJ.com  [ http://ur1.ca/f6b7f ]Aug 23 10:09
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Anarchy-XI see plenty of idlers, but any other #IdleNoMore'ers?Aug 23 13:38
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iophkMisses the point about the pragmatic problems that proprietary drivers and blobs cause: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/369810/android-really-linux-distributionhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/369810/android-really-linux-distributionAug 23 15:43
TechrightsBot-tr ( status 404 @ http://www.itworld.com/open-source/369810/android-really-linux-distributionhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/369810/android-really-linux-distribution )Aug 23 15:43
iophkhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/369810/android-really-linux-distributionAug 23 15:43
TechrightsBot-trwww.itworld.com | Is Android really a Linux distribution?  | ITworld  [ http://ur1.ca/f5cre ]Aug 23 15:43
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr9tfPowsMIAug 23 16:22
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Sheldon talks about Raj's pinworms - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/f6h5t ]Aug 23 16:22
DaemonFClolAug 23 16:22
DaemonFCThat's easily one of the funnier moment's in that show.Aug 23 16:27
DaemonFC*momentsAug 23 16:27
DaemonFCThen Youtube ruins it by recommending an actual video of pinworms taken during someone's colonoscopy.Aug 23 16:28
DaemonFCNow I'll have that in my head all day.Aug 23 16:28
DaemonFCThanks Google...Aug 23 16:28
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinwormAug 23 16:32
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Pinworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaAug 23 16:32
DaemonFCAgain, more than you ever wanted to know...Aug 23 16:32
DaemonFC11.4% in the US? I had never even heard of them.Aug 23 16:32
DaemonFCIf I ever have something like that living in me, remind me to shoot myself.Aug 23 16:32
iophkhttp://qje.oxfordjournals.org/content/122/1/73.shortAug 23 16:34
TechrightsBot-trqje.oxfordjournals.org | Disease and Development: Evidence from Hookworm Eradication in the American South  [ http://ur1.ca/f6hej ]Aug 23 16:34
iophkIt was the basis for the reputation of stupid and lazyAug 23 16:34
DaemonFCIt's a good reason to remember to wash your hands frequently and not bite your fingernails...Aug 23 16:35
DaemonFCiophk, The southern states in 1910 did have third world living standards.Aug 23 16:37
iophkLonger than that in some places.  Aug 23 16:37
DaemonFCThe only thing that really brought them forward was the federal redistribution of wealth from other states.Aug 23 16:37
DaemonFCI remember my mother telling me about her grandmother, living in Arkansas.Aug 23 16:38
DaemonFCThey went to stay with her for a few days back in the 1960s.Aug 23 16:39
DaemonFCNo indoor plumbing. Outhouse.Aug 23 16:39
DaemonFCHow did people live like that?Aug 23 16:39
DaemonFCPoisonous snakes in the yard.... There's a disincentive to use the restroom at night.Aug 23 16:40
DaemonFCNo wait, her great grandmother.Aug 23 16:40
DaemonFCYeah...Aug 23 16:40
DaemonFCSome people still live like that down there.Aug 23 16:40
DaemonFCIt's practically unheard of anywhere else in the country.Aug 23 16:41
iophkThere were still barefoot people in some areas in the 60s and even into the 70sAug 23 16:42
iophkThat and a pit toilet that was not deep enough ensured the worms got recirculated.Aug 23 16:42
DaemonFCThey still have pit toilets at some of the state parks here in Indiana.Aug 23 16:43
iophkThey're deeper and lined.Aug 23 16:43
DaemonFCThe smell is so bad that you know you're near one well before you see it.Aug 23 16:43
DaemonFCI don't use them. I find a tree or a bush. :PAug 23 16:44
iophkSpread the smell aroundAug 23 16:44
iophkhttp://www.valuewalk.com/2013/08/microsoft-bribe-probe/Aug 23 16:45
TechrightsBot-trwww.valuewalk.com | Microsoft Bribe Probe Extends To Pakistan, Russia  [ http://ur1.ca/f6hne ]Aug 23 16:45
DaemonFCThose mosquito bites aren't itching so bad today.Aug 23 16:46
DaemonFCI decided to scrub down with lava soap yesterday.Aug 23 16:46
iophkhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324619504579027200320722342.htmlAug 23 16:46
TechrightsBot-tronline.wsj.com | Microsoft Bribe Probe Touches Russia, Pakistan Deals - WSJ.com  [ http://ur1.ca/f6b7f ]Aug 23 16:46
DaemonFCWhenever I get bit by a mosquito, the entire area breaks out in hives.Aug 23 16:47
DaemonFCIt only takes two or three bites to have hives all over my arms and neck.Aug 23 16:47
DaemonFCThey heal quickly.Aug 23 16:47
DaemonFCThis entire area is infested with those damned things.Aug 23 16:48
DaemonFCNasty things.Aug 23 16:48
iophkagueAug 23 16:48
DaemonFCIf you open your window without a bug screen, you'll have them in your house for days.Aug 23 16:48
DaemonFCThe maintenance person asked me what I was doing because she saw me down by the river spraying several cans of mosquito fog.Aug 23 16:49
DaemonFCThe city does nothing about them. Aug 23 16:49
DaemonFCI went around a few weeks ago, looking for wasp nests and spraying them.Aug 23 16:53
DaemonFCHaven't seen any since then.Aug 23 16:54
abeNd-orgwhy couldnt they have had this option in 2k12/w8 to start with (woo pun!) http://www.petri.co.il/bypass-start-screen-windows-8-1-server-2012-r2.htmAug 23 17:05
TechrightsBot-trwww.petri.co.il | Skip the Start Screen in Windows 8.1 and Server 2012 R2  [ http://ur1.ca/f6i2i ]Aug 23 17:05
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: do you have issues with mosquito carried diseases in you area?Aug 23 17:08
DaemonFCWest Nile VirusAug 23 17:48
iophkhttp://www.in.gov/isdh/23592.htmAug 23 17:49
TechrightsBot-trwww.in.gov | ISDH: Mosquito-Borne Diseases HomeAug 23 17:49
DaemonFCencephalitisAug 23 17:49
DaemonFCyeahAug 23 17:49
DaemonFCIt says Dengue Fever, but that's unheard of this far north.Aug 23 17:49
DaemonFCOf course, in 20-30 years it may not be.Aug 23 17:49
DaemonFCThe EPA says that climate change will cause Indiana's climate to become more like Missouri's by 2050.Aug 23 17:50
iophkague (malaria) will come backAug 23 17:50
roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2974824Aug 23 17:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://24.media.tumblr.com/7b627ae3574a9b70edda4882d72220cb/tumblr_moz1pmg4hD1s6r1vho1_1280.png)Aug 23 17:51
roy_"Don't know if it makes me want to buy it."Aug 23 17:51
roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2974631Aug 23 17:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The open source Tizen operating system could be your next mobile device experience." http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-source-insider/2013/08/tizen-is-your-next-html5-mobile-operating-system.html #linuxAug 23 17:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.computerweekly.com | Tizen, your next HTML5 mobile operating system - Open Source Insider  [ http://ur1.ca/f6j2u ]Aug 23 17:51
roy_"This same article could have been posted 2 years ago. Nothing to see here...move along."Aug 23 17:51
*roy_ is now known as schestowitzAug 23 17:51
DaemonFCSpraying for mosquitoes is not done  until there's a confirmed outbreak of disease in the area.Aug 23 17:54
DaemonFC20 years ago, it was something that almost every town did regularly.Aug 23 17:54
DaemonFCWe're lucky enough to have a lot of bats in this area.Aug 23 17:55
schestowitziophk: http://webmink.com/2013/08/23/ballmer-to-leave-microsoft/Aug 23 18:00
TechrightsBot-trwebmink.com | Ballmer to leave Microsoft | Wild Webmink  [ http://ur1.ca/f6i9g ]Aug 23 18:00
schestowitzabout time..Aug 23 18:00
schestowitzPhipps posted the video I likeAug 23 18:02
schestowitzNot badAug 23 18:02
schestowitzSlashdot's Microsoft Nick (Nick Kolakowski) <a href="Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Resigning" title="http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer-resigning/">already did some whitewashing for this criminal</a>, as usual Aug 23 18:04
schestowitzhttp://slashdot.org/topic/bi/microsoft-ceo-steve-ballmer-resigning/Aug 23 18:04
TechrightsBot-trslashdot.org | Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Resigning  [ http://ur1.ca/f6jc2 ]Aug 23 18:04
schestowitzSladhfot is becomign Microsoft luithpieceAug 23 18:04
schestowitzit hired a Microsoft moleAug 23 18:04
iophkThe whitewashing is also directly and indirectly covering Gates.Aug 23 18:05
schestowitz"MS shares are up 8% with the news "Aug 23 18:06
schestowitzme/: "nonsense like "During Ballmer’s tenure, Microsoft also launched the highly successful Windows 7" and grooming of Bill Gates, which Microsoft Nick habitually does."Aug 23 18:06
schestowitz[drsaft]Aug 23 18:06
schestowitzGatewashing MSFTAug 23 18:06
schestowitzAfter he charitywashed himselfAug 23 18:06
schestowitzdisgustingAug 23 18:06
schestowitzhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324619504579027200320722342.html http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/08/microsoft-bribe-probe/\Aug 23 18:07
TechrightsBot-tronline.wsj.com | Microsoft Bribe Probe Touches Russia, Pakistan Deals - WSJ.com  [ http://ur1.ca/f6b7f ]Aug 23 18:07
TechrightsBot-trwww.valuewalk.com | Page Not Found » ValueWalk  [ http://ur1.ca/f6jdt ]Aug 23 18:07
schestowitzI will link those itemsAug 23 18:07
schestowitzthe mafia don leaves as mafia tactics exposed furtherAug 23 18:07
schestowitz"a trend among the Microsoft boosters, who try to use the groomed villain, Bill Gates, to somehow paint a gentle picture of Microsoft in light of the news."Aug 23 18:09
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would buy a Microsoft mobile device.Aug 23 18:11
DaemonFCThey're going to get Zuned again.Aug 23 18:11
iophkIt's better if M$ just goes away, with or without Ballmer.Aug 23 18:12
DaemonFChttp://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/r-i-p-zune/?_r=0Aug 23 18:13
TechrightsBot-trCouldn't resolve host 'www10.nytimes.com' ( status 0 @ http://www10.nytimes.com/2012/06/04/r-i-p-zune/?=_r=6& )Aug 23 18:13
DaemonFC“Zune is a big investment for us,” Bill Gates, Microsoft’s chairman, said at the time, adding, “It’s a vision that will carry us forward for years.”Aug 23 18:13
DaemonFCFour years anyway....Aug 23 18:13
iophkThe 'visionary'Aug 23 18:15
DaemonFCIt carried their vision forward four years, right to the clearance aisle.Aug 23 18:24
schestowitzLOLAug 23 18:27
DaemonFChttp://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/902.jpgAug 23 18:35
DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/59726/are-you-siri-ous/Aug 23 18:40
TechrightsBot-trwww.peopleofwalmart.com | Funny Pictures at WalMart Are You Siri-ous?  [ http://ur1.ca/f6k0q ]Aug 23 18:40
DaemonFCCarrying an iphone in her back fat.Aug 23 18:40
iophkAll the news is about Monkey Boy instead : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=microsoft+briberyAug 23 18:49
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.com | microsoft bribery - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/f6k6w ]Aug 23 18:49
MinceR194043 < DaemonFC> Carrying an iphone in her back fat.Aug 23 19:00
MinceRweight loss by overheating hypePhones, the new craze?Aug 23 19:00
DaemonFCThe thermogenic iphone back fat fad.Aug 23 19:01
DaemonFCEat all you want. The tumor will kill you in a few years anyway...Aug 23 19:01
MinceR:>Aug 23 19:02
MinceRtoo bad it won't cause a tumorAug 23 19:02
DaemonFCA tumor shaped like an apple logo.Aug 23 19:03
DaemonFCNow everyone will want to have one!Aug 23 19:03
MinceR:>Aug 23 19:04
DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/52327/honk-honk/Aug 23 19:04
TechrightsBot-trwww.peopleofwalmart.com | Funny Pictures at WalMart Honk! Honk!  [ http://ur1.ca/f6kh5 ]Aug 23 19:04
MinceR:)Aug 23 19:06
DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/49837/sht-happens-2/Aug 23 19:06
TechrightsBot-trwww.peopleofwalmart.com | Funny Pictures at WalMart Sh*t Happens  [ http://ur1.ca/f6ki2 ]Aug 23 19:06
MinceRfuck if you like to honkAug 23 19:08
DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/46747/two-cars-one-post/Aug 23 19:08
DaemonFCLOLAug 23 19:09
TechrightsBot-trwww.peopleofwalmart.com | Funny Pictures at WalMart Two Cars, One Post  [ http://ur1.ca/f6kjv ]Aug 23 19:09
iophkhttp://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/08/the-only-thing-worse-for-nokia-to-do-than-launch-a-tablet-now-is-to-launch-a-windows-based-tablet.htmlAug 23 20:32
TechrightsBot-trcommunities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: The Only Thing Worse for Nokia to Do, than Launch a Tablet Now - Is to launch a Windows based tablet  [ http://ur1.ca/f6m34 ]Aug 23 20:33
MinceR:>Aug 23 20:35
iophk"That is taking a totally suicidal strategy - handset maker launching a tablet - and compounding it with the most hated platform going - Windows."Aug 23 20:36
MinceRmore like washed-up handset maker launching a tabletAug 23 20:37
iophkOr former handset maker.Aug 23 20:37
MinceRi can understand nokia not understanding how to make a flip phone hinge (6101), but there's no excuse for the phone having little to no idea about the actual status of its battery (n97)Aug 23 20:38
iophkElop's not incompetent, they need to drop that tune.  He's working quite convincingly for M$Aug 23 20:38
MinceRit seems to take little skill to run a company into the ground from the driver's seatAug 23 20:39
iophkMaybe they can make a Prism/Echelon deal like M$ had and get bailed out through some secret deals.Aug 23 20:40
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iophk“The board is committed to the effective transformation of Microsoft to a successful devices and services company,” Aug 23 21:13
iophkhttp://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-device-and-services-2013-8Aug 23 21:13
TechrightsBot-trwww.businessinsider.com | Microsoft Becoming Device And Services Company - Business Insider  [ http://ur1.ca/f6mug ]Aug 23 21:13
schestowitziophk: yes, I was writing thatAug 23 21:36
schestowitzI noticed the same thingAug 23 21:36
schestowitzthe whole thing is supposed to distract from his crimeAug 23 21:37
schestowitzand he runs away ti escape prosecutionAug 23 21:37
iophkbribes and red inkAug 23 21:37
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MinceRgnAug 23 23:47
schestowitzLOL http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/what-world/2013/aug/19/londons-heathrow-airport-high-alert-breast-bombers/Aug 23 23:49
TechrightsBot-trcommunities.washingtontimes.com | London’s Heathrow Airport on high alert for breast implant bombers | Washington Times Communities  [ http://ur1.ca/f6pox ]Aug 23 23:49
schestowitztake off your bra, momAug 23 23:50
schestowitzspread hands apartAug 23 23:50
schestowitzmom and ma'amAug 23 23:50
schestowitzand they say "terrorism" is the threatAug 23 23:50
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