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| MinceR | it seems to take little skill to run a company into the ground from the driver's seat | Aug 23 15:39 |
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| iophk | Maybe they can make a Prism/Echelon deal like M$ had and get bailed out through some secret deals. | Aug 23 15:40 |
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| iophk | The board is committed to the effective transformation of Microsoft to a successful devices and services company, | Aug 23 16:13 |
| iophk | http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-device-and-services-2013-8 | Aug 23 16:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft Becoming Device And Services Company - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/f6mug ] | Aug 23 16:13 |
| schestowitz | iophk: yes, I was writing that | Aug 23 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I noticed the same thing | Aug 23 16:36 |
| schestowitz | the whole thing is supposed to distract from his crime | Aug 23 16:37 |
| schestowitz | and he runs away ti escape prosecution | Aug 23 16:37 |
| iophk | bribes and red ink | Aug 23 16:37 |
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| MinceR | gn | Aug 23 18:47 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/what-world/2013/aug/19/londons-heathrow-airport-high-alert-breast-bombers/ | Aug 23 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | communities.washingtontimes.com | Londons Heathrow Airport on high alert for breast implant bombers | Washington Times Communities [ http://ur1.ca/f6pox ] | Aug 23 18:49 |
| schestowitz | take off your bra, mom | Aug 23 18:50 |
| schestowitz | spread hands apart | Aug 23 18:50 |
| schestowitz | mom and ma'am | Aug 23 18:50 |
| schestowitz | and they say "terrorism" is the threat | Aug 23 18:50 |
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| qu1j0t3 | :[ | Aug 23 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2981893 | Aug 24 01:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reports from some months ago were correct. US was preparing to invade Syria around August after the CIA shored up 'rebels' (Iran 53' style) | Aug 24 01:39 |
| schestowitz | "ugh, not again. I saw train loads of armored vehicles moving around last summer, much like the build up to the Iraq invasion but thought nothing had come of it this time. bad times." | Aug 24 01:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/08/22/bradley-mannings-name-is-chelsea-manning/ | Aug 24 01:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fair.org | Bradley Manning's Name Is Chelsea Manning [ http://ur1.ca/f6vun ] | Aug 24 01:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/08/23/the-nyt-thinks-youre-an-idiot/ | Aug 24 02:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fair.org | The NYT Thinks You're an Idiot [ http://ur1.ca/f6w98 ] | Aug 24 02:24 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... Groklae didn't stop, it is still publishing | Aug 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz | again a false alarm? | Aug 24 02:50 |
| schestowitz | *Grolaq | Aug 24 02:50 |
| schestowitz | *Groklaw even | Aug 24 02:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.inquisitr.com/918944/ron-paul-does-reddit-ama-talks-tea-party-and-marijuana/ | Aug 24 03:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.inquisitr.com | Ron Paul Does Reddit AMA, Talks Tea Party And Marijuana [ http://ur1.ca/f6wws ] | Aug 24 03:18 |
| JimmyCarter | brokaw grow claws! http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/tom-brokaw-white-house-correspondents-dinner-90427.html | Aug 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.politico.com | Tom Brokaw says no thanks to White House Correspondents' Dinner - Patrick Gavin - POLITICO.com [ http://ur1.ca/f6wy6 ] | Aug 24 03:21 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/22/guardian_snowden_advice | Aug 24 03:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Four ways the Guardian could have protected Snowden by THE NSA The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f6xep ] | Aug 24 03:58 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/23/guardian_nyt_partnership_on_gchq_disclosures/ | Aug 24 03:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Guardian teams up with New York Times for future Snowden GCHQ coverage The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f6xes ] | Aug 24 03:58 |
| iophk | "For the record: The Independent was not leaked or duped into publishing today's front page story by the Government. @ggreenwald" | Aug 24 03:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/_Phil_Wilson_/status/371169186300452865 | Aug 24 04:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @_Phil_Wilson_: @schestowitz Like those spanish terrorists, El Qaeda? | Aug 24 04:01 |
| schestowitz | Latin America has many examples | Aug 24 04:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2981971 | Aug 24 04:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama marketing: "My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government." http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/TransparencyandOpenGovernment | Aug 24 04:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.whitehouse.gov | Transparency and Open Government | The White House [ http://ur1.ca/d2em0 ] | Aug 24 04:03 |
| schestowitz | :"secrecy is transparancy" | Aug 24 04:03 |
| schestowitz | If we repeat the lie often enough | Aug 24 04:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2982117 | Aug 24 04:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "UK runs a secret internet monitoring station in the Middle East to intercept data" http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/501135/20130823/independent-guardian-row-snowden-middle-east-leaks.htm #uk #nsa #espionage | Aug 24 04:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ibtimes.co.uk | Edward Snowden: Guardian and Independent Row over NSA and GCHQ Middle East Leaks - IBTimes UK [ http://ur1.ca/f6xin ] | Aug 24 04:06 |
| schestowitz | " http://bit.ly/154HBbo http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/23/4650398/snowden-accuses-uk-government-of-leaking-documents-about-itself-in " | Aug 24 04:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theverge.com | Snowden accuses UK government of leaking documents about itself in smear campaign | The Verge | Aug 24 04:06 |
| iophk | old - http://yahoo.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm | Aug 24 04:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yahoo.usatoday.com | USATODAY.com - NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls [ http://ur1.ca/f6xlh ] | Aug 24 04:14 |
| iophk | "The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth" | Aug 24 04:15 |
| iophk | 2006 it was | Aug 24 04:15 |
| iophk | old - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/4/snail-mail-spy-us-postal-service-active-partner-fe/ | Aug 24 04:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | Snail mail spy: U.S. Postal Service active partner with feds for surveillance - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/f6xpd ] | Aug 24 04:22 |
| iophk | http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/23/obama-nsa-surveillance-programs-loaded-gun/ | Aug 24 04:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | Obama: NSA surveillance programs 'loaded gun' that can be abused if unchecked - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/f6y2m ] | Aug 24 04:46 |
| iophk | "The NSA programs were first revealed by leaker Edward Snowden," | Aug 24 04:46 |
| iophk | not so much revealed, as we see from 2006, but more confirmed | Aug 24 04:47 |
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| oiaohm | iophk: snail mail auto scanning. | Aug 24 04:51 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the fun part of some of that tech is you don't need to open letter to read it. | Aug 24 04:51 |
| iophk | yes, collecting the "metadata" | Aug 24 04:51 |
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| oiaohm | No metadata is collecting the addresses of the sender and reciever. | Aug 24 04:52 |
| oiaohm | I am talking about the bright light scan threw the complete letter. | Aug 24 04:52 |
| iophk | How does it deal with multiple pages and folds? | Aug 24 04:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/24/top_10_steve_ballmer_quotes_from_microsoft_history/ | Aug 24 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Top 10 Steve Ballmer quotes: '%#&@!!' and so much more The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f6y8i ] | Aug 24 04:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2981893 | Aug 24 06:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reports from some months ago were correct. US was preparing to invade Syria around August after the CIA shored up 'rebels' (Iran 53' style) | Aug 24 06:39 |
| schestowitz | "ugh, not again. I saw train loads of armored vehicles moving around last summer, much like the build up to the Iraq invasion but thought nothing had come of it this time. bad times." | Aug 24 06:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/08/22/bradley-mannings-name-is-chelsea-manning/ | Aug 24 06:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fair.org | Bradley Manning's Name Is Chelsea Manning [ http://ur1.ca/f6vun ] | Aug 24 06:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/08/23/the-nyt-thinks-youre-an-idiot/ | Aug 24 07:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fair.org | The NYT Thinks You're an Idiot [ http://ur1.ca/f6w98 ] | Aug 24 07:24 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... Groklae didn't stop, it is still publishing | Aug 24 07:49 |
| schestowitz | again a false alarm? | Aug 24 07:50 |
| schestowitz | *Grolaq | Aug 24 07:50 |
| schestowitz | *Groklaw even | Aug 24 07:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.inquisitr.com/918944/ron-paul-does-reddit-ama-talks-tea-party-and-marijuana/ | Aug 24 08:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.inquisitr.com | Ron Paul Does Reddit AMA, Talks Tea Party And Marijuana [ http://ur1.ca/f6wws ] | Aug 24 08:18 |
| JimmyCarter | brokaw grow claws! http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/tom-brokaw-white-house-correspondents-dinner-90427.html | Aug 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.politico.com | Tom Brokaw says ‘no thanks’ to White House Correspondents' Dinner - Patrick Gavin - POLITICO.com [ http://ur1.ca/f6wy6 ] | Aug 24 08:21 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/22/guardian_snowden_advice | Aug 24 08:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Four ways the Guardian could have protected Snowden – by THE NSA • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f6xep ] | Aug 24 08:58 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/23/guardian_nyt_partnership_on_gchq_disclosures/ | Aug 24 08:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Guardian teams up with New York Times for future Snowden GCHQ coverage • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f6xes ] | Aug 24 08:58 |
| iophk | "For the record: The Independent was not leaked or ‘duped’ into publishing today's front page story by the Government. @ggreenwald" | Aug 24 08:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/_Phil_Wilson_/status/371169186300452865 | Aug 24 09:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @_Phil_Wilson_: @schestowitz Like those spanish terrorists, El Qaeda? | Aug 24 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Latin America has many examples | Aug 24 09:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2981971 | Aug 24 09:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Obama marketing: "My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government." http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/TransparencyandOpenGovernment | Aug 24 09:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.whitehouse.gov | Transparency and Open Government | The White House [ http://ur1.ca/d2em0 ] | Aug 24 09:03 |
| schestowitz | :"secrecy is transparancy" | Aug 24 09:03 |
| schestowitz | If we repeat the lie often enough | Aug 24 09:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2982117 | Aug 24 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "UK runs a secret internet monitoring station in the Middle East to intercept data" http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/501135/20130823/independent-guardian-row-snowden-middle-east-leaks.htm #uk #nsa #espionage | Aug 24 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.ibtimes.co.uk | Edward Snowden: Guardian and Independent Row over NSA and GCHQ Middle East Leaks - IBTimes UK [ http://ur1.ca/f6xin ] | Aug 24 09:06 |
| schestowitz | " http://bit.ly/154HBbo http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/23/4650398/snowden-accuses-uk-government-of-leaking-documents-about-itself-in " | Aug 24 09:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theverge.com | Snowden accuses UK government of leaking documents about itself in smear campaign | The Verge | Aug 24 09:06 |
| iophk | old - http://yahoo.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm | Aug 24 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yahoo.usatoday.com | USATODAY.com - NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls [ http://ur1.ca/f6xlh ] | Aug 24 09:14 |
| iophk | "The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth" | Aug 24 09:15 |
| iophk | 2006 it was | Aug 24 09:15 |
| iophk | old - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/4/snail-mail-spy-us-postal-service-active-partner-fe/ | Aug 24 09:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | Snail mail spy: U.S. Postal Service active partner with feds for surveillance - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/f6xpd ] | Aug 24 09:22 |
| iophk | http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/23/obama-nsa-surveillance-programs-loaded-gun/ | Aug 24 09:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtontimes.com | Obama: NSA surveillance programs 'loaded gun' that can be abused if unchecked - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/f6y2m ] | Aug 24 09:46 |
| iophk | "The NSA programs were first revealed by leaker Edward Snowden," | Aug 24 09:46 |
| iophk | not so much revealed, as we see from 2006, but more confirmed | Aug 24 09:47 |
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| oiaohm | iophk: snail mail auto scanning. | Aug 24 09:51 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the fun part of some of that tech is you don't need to open letter to read it. | Aug 24 09:51 |
| iophk | yes, collecting the "metadata" | Aug 24 09:51 |
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| oiaohm | No metadata is collecting the addresses of the sender and reciever. | Aug 24 09:52 |
| oiaohm | I am talking about the bright light scan threw the complete letter. | Aug 24 09:52 |
| iophk | How does it deal with multiple pages and folds? | Aug 24 09:53 |
| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/24/top_10_steve_ballmer_quotes_from_microsoft_history/ | Aug 24 09:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Top 10 Steve Ballmer quotes: '%#&@!!' and so much more • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/f6y8i ] | Aug 24 09:58 |
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| schestowitz | not metadata | Aug 24 09:58 |
| schestowitz | recorded calls | Aug 24 09:58 |
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| schestowitz | with VR | Aug 24 09:58 |
| schestowitz | They do this in GCHQ, I think, as reported by The Reg some years ago | Aug 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | GCHQ=offshore NSA base | Aug 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | different laws | Aug 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | The Yorkshire-based NSA base is intercepting Emails of USians | Aug 24 09:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/open-source/370280/steve-ballmer-retires-dark-day-linux | Aug 24 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itworld.com | Steve Ballmer retires: A dark day for Linux! | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/f6yay ] | Aug 24 10:03 |
| schestowitz | iophk: Lynch | Aug 24 10:03 |
| schestowitz | iophk: need more press coverage of Ballmer's bribe | Aug 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft must have chosen timing for a reason | Aug 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | They knew it was coming | Aug 24 10:04 |
| schestowitz | So now was a good time to bury bad news | Aug 24 10:04 |
| iophk | Yes, Ballmer could have been announced whenever | Aug 24 10:04 |
| iophk | I'd take it as an indication that there is something of real significance with this particular bribery scandal. | Aug 24 10:05 |
| iophk | Maybe it's deep than just Russia. | Aug 24 10:05 |
| iophk | Can it extend to the US, China and Europe? | Aug 24 10:05 |
| iophk | Covering Monkey Boy ensures that M$ takes up most or all of most news services' tech coverage. And then all of that M$ coverage is about Monkey Boy rather than the bribery and tying it to other scandals like ISO / ODF / OOXML | Aug 24 10:09 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-shutdown-hurt-smaller-films-helped-blockbusters-130823/ | Aug 24 10:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-shutdown-hurt-smaller-films-helped-blockbusters-130823/ ) | Aug 24 10:13 |
| iophk | Maybe hurting the smaller films and helping the larger ones was part of the desired effect. | Aug 24 10:13 |
| iophk | [11:59] <schestowitz> GCHQ=offshore NSA base | Aug 24 10:42 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/new-zealand-appears-to-have-used-nsa-spy-network-to-target-kim-dotcom/ | Aug 24 10:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | New Zealand appears to have used NSA spy network to target Kim Dotcom | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/f6yq7 ] | Aug 24 10:42 |
| iophk | Not quite GCHQ but close in concept | Aug 24 10:42 |
| schestowitz | it's NSA-funded | Aug 24 10:50 |
| schestowitz | US citizens pay for it | Aug 24 10:50 |
| schestowitz | to be paied on | Aug 24 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Like the IDF, wose arms are partly funded by US citizens | Aug 24 10:50 |
| iophk | Yes, that's another mess | Aug 24 10:50 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I got pulled away. real mail scaning depends on the fact lines of text normally don't get lined up when letters are folded perfectly. | Aug 24 11:02 |
| oiaohm | iophk: ie a non opened mail reading does not read 100 percent of contents but gives a vastely better overview of what is contained. | Aug 24 11:03 |
| iophk | so poor handwriting is an asset nowadays | Aug 24 11:03 |
| oiaohm | iophk: not really its not a help if the other end cannot read it anyhow. | Aug 24 11:04 |
| oiaohm | Really you want privacy it is encrypt. | Aug 24 11:04 |
| oiaohm | iophk: think about how we have mobile phones and tablets yet we don't have any scanning software on them to read an encrypted letter | Aug 24 11:10 |
| iophk | oiaohm: and mail encryption has not really moved forward at all either | Aug 24 11:28 |
| oiaohm | That is the big problem. | Aug 24 11:31 |
| oiaohm | In the time of messages being sent by morse people used personal code books. | Aug 24 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Reason why intellegance bodys can collect so much is we have got sloppy. | Aug 24 11:32 |
| iophk | Sloppy and no priorities. | Aug 24 11:32 |
| iophk | e-mail encryption is a bad kludge still | Aug 24 11:32 |
| oiaohm | encryption and code books we should all be using. | Aug 24 11:33 |
| oiaohm | For stuff we expect private. | Aug 24 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Its not a new requirement. | Aug 24 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Its simpler to blame the intergance bodys for collecting it than take responsablity for our own data. | Aug 24 11:34 |
| iophk | mkegS VrYYb JTOTU HjMpZ MEKDJ mXBZZ Utvgf RZvNe MeGGY NlhtQ YmGJW VKQjG gCkCU HeDGz gJGNf QpCej cnhlI PzSue JPVUU CEt!e GSgzj WJuri zKIZx jZPIr BkVgt rhwIn nlZLU rYeEn XmFAy UTSks IK!um TLBkO QZAze LUISd UOzxn NUrne OwQhj SdrGt PWQlx | Aug 24 11:37 |
| iophk | ;) | Aug 24 11:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2982336 | Aug 24 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GNU/Linux proponent says that a leaping gorilla running #microsoft was a good thing http://www.itworld.com/open-source/370280/steve-ballmer-retires-dark-day-linux | Aug 24 11:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | Steve Ballmer retires: A dark day for Linux! | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/f6yay ] | Aug 24 11:40 |
| schestowitz | "I had the same thought. It can only get better for Microsoft in regard to human capital." | Aug 24 11:40 |
| iophk | Ballmer only continued down the road that Gates had started. | Aug 24 11:43 |
| iophk | Products, services and staff have always sucked there. | Aug 24 11:44 |
| iophk | !google microsoft vacuum cleaner | Aug 24 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The day Microsoft make a product that doesn't suck is the day they ... | http://coolquotescollection.com/3396/the-day-microsoft-make-a-product-that-doesn-t-suck-is-the-day-they-start-making | Aug 24 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft creative director: 'I don't get the drama' over 'always-on ... | http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/5/4185938/adam-orth-speaks-on-required-internet-connection-for-durango-rumors | Aug 24 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Microsoft Jokes | http://jokes4all.net/microsoft.html | Aug 24 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - An Always-Online Console? 'Deal With It' — Microsoft Studios ... | http://techland.time.com/2013/04/05/an-always-online-console-deal-with-it-microsoft-studios-creative-director-kicks-the-hornets-nest/ | Aug 24 11:44 |
| iophk | That joke is from the 1990's | Aug 24 11:45 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2423525,00.asp | Aug 24 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | Feds Reportedly Expand Microsoft Bribery Probe to Russia, Pakistan | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/f70bx ] | Aug 24 12:22 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2423525,00.asphttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241829/Feds_expand_inquiry_into_Microsoft_bribery_kickback_allegations | Aug 24 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcmag.com | Feds Reportedly Expand Microsoft Bribery Probe to Russia, Pakistan | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/f70c2 ] | Aug 24 12:23 |
| iophk | http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57599680-75/probe-into-alleged-microsoft-partner-bribery-hits-russia/?_escaped_fragment_=#! | Aug 24 12:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.cnet.com | Probe into alleged Microsoft partner bribery hits Russia | Microsoft - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/f70c8 ] | Aug 24 12:23 |
| iophk | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241829/Feds_expand_inquiry_into_Microsoft_bribery_kickback_allegations | Aug 24 12:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.computerworld.com | Feds expand inquiry into Microsoft bribery, kickback allegations - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/f70ce ] | Aug 24 12:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NzUm7UEEIY | Aug 24 13:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | How It's Made - Hot Dogs - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/f710q ] | Aug 24 13:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/371241925568770049 | Aug 24 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz I have decided our response to Groklaw closing is to far more aggressively develop gfc as a secure replacement for #Skype | Aug 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | iophk: added to drafts, thanks | Aug 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Will Android versions of secure SIP clients be made? | Aug 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | hi DrPizza | Aug 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | dyfet I mean | Aug 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/371231481240109056 | Aug 24 13:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz yep, the company that is paid to spy on you, and that gets protection from US anti-trust laws while engaged in fraud too | Aug 24 13:12 |
| dyfet | There are already some which have zrtp, schestowitz, but we will also produce a mobile antisipate gfc client too.... | Aug 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | crime extends to one's authority | Aug 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | the US protects such crimes as though it's part of Microsoft | Aug 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Not sure why DoJ gets involved | Aug 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Maybe to save face | Aug 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | There has to be a broader context | Aug 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | Oracle and IBM bribe too, lots of articles about it | Aug 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/371242207442767872 | Aug 24 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz our task should be to aggressively help put the #NSA out of the surveillance business | Aug 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | That would not help | Aug 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | It got privatised | Aug 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | Booz Allen, Google, MSFT, FB.. | Aug 24 13:13 |
| iophk | DOJ lost a lot of reputation about 10+ years ago when the late Judge Jackson was removed. | Aug 24 13:13 |
| iophk | He was doing a good job but was not allowed to finish the case. | Aug 24 13:14 |
| dyfet | and now they use NSA material to then recreate fake investigations | Aug 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/371242545012953088 | Aug 24 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz so we are focusing on #antisipate, which was a very quiet project to do an easy to use #gfc client for #sipwitch | Aug 24 13:14 |
| dyfet | that makes them illegitimate | Aug 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't work | Aug 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | Not so far, it might fool those who "want to believe" (Hope, CHange) | Aug 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | ven the far right in the US is not proud of their govt. | Aug 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | In fact, the US far-right is more leaning to Nazism than the White House | Aug 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | and they form militias | Aug 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | http://actualidad.rt.com/sociedad/view/103807-neonazi-ciudad-eeuu-racismo-eeuu | Aug 24 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | actualidad.rt.com | El paraíso de los supremacistas: neonazis planean tener su propia localidad en EE.UU. – RT [ http://ur1.ca/f718u ] | Aug 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | http://rt.com/usa/nazi-white-city-dakota-922/ | Aug 24 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | rt.com | Neo-Nazis plan to build all-white city in North Dakota — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/f7196 ] | Aug 24 13:15 |
| dyfet | yes, America's brown shirts... | Aug 24 13:16 |
| MinceR | geekings | Aug 24 13:21 |
| dyfet | hmm...planet.gnu.org seems down... | Aug 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2982175 | Aug 24 13:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The most effective #NSA #surveillance has done is it helped crush protests, shut down sites like Groklaw, and made people nervous. | Aug 24 13:31 |
| schestowitz | :"that's likely to be one of their objectives" | Aug 24 13:31 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2982717 | Aug 24 14:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Drone Strikes in #Pakistan Kill One Terrorist for Every 50 Deaths http://www.policymic.com/articles/15340/drone-strikes-in-pakistan-have-killed-thousands-of-civilians but you won't hear it on CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, etc. | Aug 24 14:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.policymic.com | Drone Strikes in Pakistan Kill One Terrorist for Every 50 Deaths [ http://ur1.ca/f71zy ] | Aug 24 14:00 |
| schestowitz | "It's almost as though it is designed to do Al-Qaida's recruitment for them" | Aug 24 14:00 |
| schestowitz | I think it's a war of terror, like shock and awe. They want to control client states by fear. | Aug 24 14:01 |
| oiaohm | Shock and awe idea historically has never worked. | Aug 24 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Only reason to attempt shock and awe is if you are attempting to sell weapons. | Aug 24 14:02 |
| oiaohm | Thinking USA is one of the world biggest weapon makers. | Aug 24 14:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: start dollar signing those missles from drones the cheepest is 100 000 dollars. | Aug 24 14:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: most expensive is a few million. | Aug 24 14:05 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/2879607 | Aug 24 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | ![Duckduckgo t-sh... [ http://ur1.ca/f724u ] | Aug 24 14:07 |
| schestowitz | DuckDuckGo, hosted by CIA partner Amazon and giving a false sense of privacy | Aug 24 14:07 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Aug 24 14:07 |
| iophk | ddg also is contaminated by content from Bing | Aug 24 14:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/370994287510450176 | Aug 24 14:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @neiltyson: If you need to invoke your academic pedigree or job title for people to believe what you say, then you need a better argument | Aug 24 14:27 |
| schestowitz | iophk: yeah | Aug 24 14:27 |
| iophk | http://help.dukgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216399-sources | Aug 24 14:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | help.dukgo.com | DuckDuckGo | Sources [ http://ur1.ca/f72kr ] | Aug 24 14:31 |
| iophk | It gets bing 3 ways : bing, yahoo, wolfram alpha | Aug 24 14:31 |
| iophk | maye more | Aug 24 14:31 |
| dyfet | contaminated searches | Aug 24 14:34 |
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| iophk | Still painting WL as "anti-secrecy" http://rt.com/usa/michael-hastings-car-neighbor-853/ | Aug 24 17:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | rt.com | Michael Hastings was afraid his car was tampered with — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/f75hc ] | Aug 24 17:12 |
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| iophk | So is the current M$ bribery scandal really about them fighting Linux? | Aug 24 18:07 |
| iophk | http://abcnews.go.com/Health/syndrome-man-movies-ends-morgue/story?id=20046376&singlePage=true | Aug 24 18:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | abcnews.go.com | Down Syndrome Man Goes to Movies, Ends up in Morgue - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/f76su ] | Aug 24 18:16 |
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| JimmyCarter | http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/08/23/nsa-officers-sometimes-spy-on-love-interests/?mod=e2tw | Aug 24 23:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.wsj.com | NSA Officers Spy on Love Interests - Washington Wire - WSJ [ http://ur1.ca/f7cn0 ] | Aug 24 23:11 |
| _0bitcount | schestowitz, congratulations on the new series of videos with RMS. Good job! | Aug 24 23:20 |
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