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| schestowitz | "Don't hold on to them, you'll loose your hand!" | Jul 30 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | paypal wants me to pay to send back the fake coupons to the seller at my expense, with a tracking number | Jul 30 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | I sent the seller the following email. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | I am not willing to mail them back for $5 of my own money to get the tracking number that Paypal requires to settle this dispute. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | If you do not issue a refund within three days, I will: | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Contact the manufacturer whose coupons you have counterfeited and report all information I have about you, including your name, your paypal account, your email address, your mailing address, and any other information I have or may discover. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | 2. Contact their coupon redemption contractor with the aforementioned information. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | 3. Report you to the FBI's Internet Crime division. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | 4. Contact my credit card company and get a chargeback, which will come out of your paypal account anyway. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | 5. Leave negative feedback detailing your counterfeit coupons. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | As well as any other course of action I deem appropriate. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | If you doubt that these coupons are fake, then look at this PDF file, specifically item number 4: | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://rpr-coupons.com/rprblog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/CMS-072213-Counterfeits.pdf | Jul 30 01:30 |
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| DaemonFC | I urge you to settle this now so that we can both be on our way. | Jul 30 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | I usually check the Coupon Information Center to see if an alert has been posted, but free product coupons are not necessarily fake. | Jul 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | These weren't in their database, but there's a smaller site that the redemption contractor for this company uses, and they posted them as fakes back in January. | Jul 30 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | If he refunds my money to Paypal, I plan to donate the amount to the next Humble Bundle then close my Paypal account. | Jul 30 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | The terms of their "buyer protection" guarantee just suck. | Jul 30 01:37 |
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| DaemonFC | I urge you to settle this now so that we can both be on our way. | Jul 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | I usually check the Coupon Information Center to see if an alert has been posted, but free product coupons are not necessarily fake. | Jul 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | These weren't in their database, but there's a smaller site that the redemption contractor for this company uses, and they posted them as fakes back in January. | Jul 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | If he refunds my money to Paypal, I plan to donate the amount to the next Humble Bundle then close my Paypal account. | Jul 29 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | The terms of their "buyer protection" guarantee just suck. | Jul 29 20:37 |
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| iophk | http://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2013/papers/4977a080.pdf | Jul 30 02:53 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/07/what-the-ashcroft-hospital-showdown-on-nsa-spying-was-all-about/ | Jul 30 05:41 |
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| iophk | restricted boot : http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/60925-ec-waiting-on-microsoft-over-secure-boot-complaint | Jul 30 06:26 |
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| msb__ | https://fsfe.org/news/2013/news-20130729-01.en.html | Jul 30 06:44 |
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| iophk | http://fsfe.org/news/2013/news-20130712-01.en.html | Jul 30 07:01 |
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| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/20-great-years-of-linux-and-supercomputers-7000018681/ | Jul 30 11:08 |
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| iophk | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/07/obamas_continui.html | Jul 30 11:17 |
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| iophk | http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/obamas-insider-threat-program-a-parody-of-liberal-faith-in-bureaucrats/277653/ | Jul 30 11:18 |
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| iophk | Those match well with the recent removal of protecting whistleblowers from changes.gov | Jul 30 11:18 |
| iophk | http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/why-nsa-surveillance-will-be-more-damaging-than-you-think/278181/ | Jul 30 12:19 |
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| DaemonFC | Does anyone actually believe these fake job postings? | Jul 30 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | "We'll pay you $20 an hour to stand outside a convenience store and give surveys to the customers." | Jul 30 13:12 |
| DaemonFC | Right.... And pigs are flying. | Jul 30 13:12 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was watching a show about how tourists get ripped off in Central and South American countries. | Jul 30 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | There's this guy that has a hidden camera and goes and falls for the scams to document how they all work. | Jul 30 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | It got me thinking.... | Jul 30 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'd make more money if I illegally immigrated to one of those countries and started ripping off tourists. | Jul 30 13:16 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm finding out the darker side of dealing with ebay and paypal. | Jul 30 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's no wonder there's so much fraud going on. They seem to have provided an environment it can thrive in. | Jul 30 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Things I've learned in the last 24 hours.... | Jul 30 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Paypal's money back guarantee is full of gotchas and it will cost you more to return fake coupons than what the fake coupons cost. | Jul 30 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | ebay protects the sellers that sell counterfeit coupons and fake merchandise by refusing to delist fraudulent auctions. | Jul 30 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | ebay protects these sellers from negative feedback by making you wait 7 days before you're allowed to post negative feedback. | Jul 30 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | I assume that most people who are conned out of a few bucks forget all about it and never leave feedback because of this policy. | Jul 30 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | If negative feedback is left over a fraudulent auction and you didn't pay more than the fake merchandise cost to send it back, ebay will remove the negative feedback you left. | Jul 30 13:21 |
| DaemonFC | So these small time coupon scams are the perfect thing to do, because nobody is going to pay $5 to mail back $9 worth of coupons. | Jul 30 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | Thank goodness my credit card company is easy to deal with. I just asked them to list it as disputed and they took the $9 back from Paypal, gave it back to me, and then Paypal took it from the scammer. | Jul 30 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if it's $9 or 9 cents. It makes me mad when I've been had. | Jul 30 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | New rules with coupon buying: $2 limit and nothing that says Free Product. About half of those end up being listed as fakes and the manufacturer discontinues them a few days after they surface on ebay. | Jul 30 13:24 |
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| DaemonFC | The ebay coupon fraud, which ebay and paypal enable, has gotten so bad that real Free Product coupons, or anything worth more than $5-6 is starting to come with a hologram strip. | Jul 30 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how long it will be before criminals figure out how to copy those. | Jul 30 13:25 |
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| DaemonFC | For what good it might do, I've contacted the FBI and the FTC about that seller. | Jul 30 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm keeping the coupons in case they want to press charges against the guy. | Jul 30 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | They've been cracking down on that lately. | Jul 30 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | Just last month, they arrested three women who had what could only be described as a fake coupon factory in their living room. | Jul 30 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | They said they found millions of dollars of fake coupons in the house. | Jul 30 13:29 |
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| iophk | M$ afraid of FOSS in African schools http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241208/Microsoft_to_link_schools_in_South_African_white_spaces_project | Jul 30 13:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JavaBean79924/status/362266985536569344 | Jul 30 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @JavaBean79924: @glynmoody @schestowitz RT @MEF: Security of SIM cards under threat? - mobile industry reaction: http://t.co/TKBpgWdkFN via @MEF | Jul 30 13:45 |
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| DaemonFC | http://abcnews.go.com/Business/extreme-couponer-banned-walmart/story?id=13966540 | Jul 30 14:56 |
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| DaemonFC | You have to do something really bad to get banned from Walmart... | Jul 30 14:57 |
| iophk | http://tarensk.tumblr.com/post/56881327662/mit-report-is-a-whitewash-my-statement-in-response | Jul 30 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkM8Q1n66T8 | Jul 30 15:03 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: tthanks, dented | Jul 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | along with others | Jul 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | the SA story is interesting | Jul 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | I Oxford I spent an hour talking to someone from South African and he explained to me what Microsoft was doing there. | Jul 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | *In | Jul 30 15:15 |
| iophk | The network is probably just cover for other anti-FOSS work and the usual lock-in | Jul 30 15:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2894465 | Jul 30 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Occupy Wall St. #HUMOR #Who #Owns The #Federal #Reserve? http://banoosh.com/?p=49398 | Jul 30 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by sunny_day@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_9135b54eda66285ac4c0.jpg | Jul 30 15:36 |
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| schestowitz | "Organised.... So no government!" | Jul 30 15:36 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#helping | Jul 30 17:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: | Nintendo - Corporate Information | Legal Information (Copyrights, Emulators, ROMs, etc.) .::. Size~: 30.26 KB | Jul 30 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Nintendo is famous for bringing back to life its popular characters for its newer systems" | Jul 30 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo uses emulators in Virtual Console. | Jul 30 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Companies that complain about emulators have even been found distributing emulators under the GPL/LGPL without complying with the license. | Jul 30 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Sega got caught doing that. | Jul 30 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | iirc, they used code from gens to develop a Genesis game collection for the Dreamcast and XBOX Live Arcade. | Jul 30 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why anyone should figure that it's wrong to have a different attitude than the people they're dealing with. | Jul 30 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | If big video game companies figure that violating the GPL is only a problem if they get caught, why should their customers feel differently about ROMs? | Jul 30 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | "No, the current availability of a game in stores is irrelevant as to its copyright status." | Jul 30 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Can I play with your toys? | Jul 30 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | NO! | Jul 30 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Well why not? You're not doing anything with them? | Jul 30 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | THAT'S NOT THE POINT! | Jul 30 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | "U.S. copyright laws state that copyrights owned by corporations are valid for 75 years from the date of first publication. Because video games have been around for less than three decades, the copyrights of all video games will not expire for many decades to come." | Jul 30 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | They're still lobbying for "forever minus one day". | Jul 30 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | The US constitution says that Congress can only grant a copyright for a limited time, so the maximalists are arguing that forever minus one day satisfies that requirement. | Jul 30 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | At the current rate, it won't be long before the shorter wait for copyrights to expire will be to wait until the United States government no longer exists. | Jul 30 17:49 |
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| DaemonFC | It is true that part of Nintendo's revenue stream is emulating old games without fixing any of the bugs. | Jul 30 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the remakes even have most of the same bugs as the old NES version had. | Jul 30 17:59 |
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| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/07/what-the-ashcroft-hospital-showdown-on-nsa-spying-was-all-about/ | Jul 30 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: What the Ashcroft “Hospital Showdown” on NSA spying was all about | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 50.14 KB | Jul 30 10:41 |
| iophk | restricted boot : http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/60925-ec-waiting-on-microsoft-over-secure-boot-complaint | Jul 30 11:26 |
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| msb__ | https://fsfe.org/news/2013/news-20130729-01.en.html | Jul 30 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FSFE objects to claims of 'predatory pricing' in Free Software .::. Size~: 9.19 KB | Jul 30 11:44 |
| iophk | http://fsfe.org/news/2013/news-20130712-01.en.html | Jul 30 12:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Snowden leak: Storing your data at Microsoft is negligent .::. Size~: 10.16 KB | Jul 30 12:01 |
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| iophk | http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/meps-and-advocacy-groups-press-ep-reports-open-source | Jul 30 14:31 |
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| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/20-great-years-of-linux-and-supercomputers-7000018681/ | Jul 30 16:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 20 great years of Linux and supercomputers | ZDNet .::. Size~: 82.35 KB | Jul 30 16:08 |
| iophk | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/07/obamas_continui.html | Jul 30 16:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Schneier on Security: Obama's Continuing War Against Leakers .::. Size~: 65.77 KB | Jul 30 16:17 |
| iophk | http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/07/obamas-insider-threat-program-a-parody-of-liberal-faith-in-bureaucrats/277653/ | Jul 30 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obama's 'Insider Threat Program': A Parody of Liberal Faith in Bureaucrats - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 142 KB | Jul 30 16:18 |
| iophk | Those match well with the recent removal of protecting whistleblowers from changes.gov | Jul 30 16:18 |
| iophk | http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/why-nsa-surveillance-will-be-more-damaging-than-you-think/278181/ | Jul 30 17:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why NSA Surveillance Will Be More Damaging Than You Think - James Fallows - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 160.52 KB | Jul 30 17:19 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/Ah9G9MY.jpg | Jul 30 17:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Does anyone actually believe these fake job postings? | Jul 30 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | "We'll pay you $20 an hour to stand outside a convenience store and give surveys to the customers." | Jul 30 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | Right.... And pigs are flying. | Jul 30 18:12 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was watching a show about how tourists get ripped off in Central and South American countries. | Jul 30 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | There's this guy that has a hidden camera and goes and falls for the scams to document how they all work. | Jul 30 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | It got me thinking.... | Jul 30 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'd make more money if I illegally immigrated to one of those countries and started ripping off tourists. | Jul 30 18:16 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm finding out the darker side of dealing with ebay and paypal. | Jul 30 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's no wonder there's so much fraud going on. They seem to have provided an environment it can thrive in. | Jul 30 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Things I've learned in the last 24 hours.... | Jul 30 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | Paypal's money back guarantee is full of gotchas and it will cost you more to return fake coupons than what the fake coupons cost. | Jul 30 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | ebay protects the sellers that sell counterfeit coupons and fake merchandise by refusing to delist fraudulent auctions. | Jul 30 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | ebay protects these sellers from negative feedback by making you wait 7 days before you're allowed to post negative feedback. | Jul 30 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | I assume that most people who are conned out of a few bucks forget all about it and never leave feedback because of this policy. | Jul 30 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | If negative feedback is left over a fraudulent auction and you didn't pay more than the fake merchandise cost to send it back, ebay will remove the negative feedback you left. | Jul 30 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | So these small time coupon scams are the perfect thing to do, because nobody is going to pay $5 to mail back $9 worth of coupons. | Jul 30 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | Thank goodness my credit card company is easy to deal with. I just asked them to list it as disputed and they took the $9 back from Paypal, gave it back to me, and then Paypal took it from the scammer. | Jul 30 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if it's $9 or 9 cents. It makes me mad when I've been had. | Jul 30 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | New rules with coupon buying: $2 limit and nothing that says Free Product. About half of those end up being listed as fakes and the manufacturer discontinues them a few days after they surface on ebay. | Jul 30 18:24 |
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| DaemonFC | The ebay coupon fraud, which ebay and paypal enable, has gotten so bad that real Free Product coupons, or anything worth more than $5-6 is starting to come with a hologram strip. | Jul 30 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how long it will be before criminals figure out how to copy those. | Jul 30 18:25 |
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| DaemonFC | For what good it might do, I've contacted the FBI and the FTC about that seller. | Jul 30 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm keeping the coupons in case they want to press charges against the guy. | Jul 30 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | They've been cracking down on that lately. | Jul 30 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | Just last month, they arrested three women who had what could only be described as a fake coupon factory in their living room. | Jul 30 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | They said they found millions of dollars of fake coupons in the house. | Jul 30 18:29 |
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| iophk | M$ afraid of FOSS in African schools http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9241208/Microsoft_to_link_schools_in_South_African_white_spaces_project | Jul 30 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft to link schools in South African 'white spaces' project - Computerworld .::. Size~: 121.1 KB | Jul 30 18:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/JavaBean79924/status/362266985536569344 | Jul 30 18:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @JavaBean79924: @glynmoody @schestowitz RT @MEF: Security of SIM cards under threat? - mobile industry reaction: http://t.co/TKBpgWdkFN via @MEF | Jul 30 18:45 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-prince-alwaleed-warns-on-fracking-2013-7#ixzz2aSHGJSmc | Jul 30 19:27 |
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| DaemonFC | http://abcnews.go.com/Business/extreme-couponer-banned-walmart/story?id=13966540 | Jul 30 19:56 |
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| DaemonFC | You have to do something really bad to get banned from Walmart... | Jul 30 19:57 |
| iophk | http://tarensk.tumblr.com/post/56881327662/mit-report-is-a-whitewash-my-statement-in-response | Jul 30 20:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkM8Q1n66T8 | Jul 30 20:03 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: tthanks, dented | Jul 30 20:15 |
| schestowitz | along with others | Jul 30 20:15 |
| schestowitz | the SA story is interesting | Jul 30 20:15 |
| schestowitz | I Oxford I spent an hour talking to someone from South African and he explained to me what Microsoft was doing there. | Jul 30 20:15 |
| schestowitz | *In | Jul 30 20:15 |
| iophk | The network is probably just cover for other anti-FOSS work and the usual lock-in | Jul 30 20:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2894465 | Jul 30 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Occupy Wall St. #HUMOR #Who #Owns The #Federal #Reserve? http://banoosh.com/?p=49398 | Jul 30 20:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by sunny_day@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_9135b54eda66285ac4c0.jpg | Jul 30 20:36 |
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| schestowitz | "Organised.... So no government!" | Jul 30 20:36 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#helping | Jul 30 22:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: | Nintendo - Corporate Information | Legal Information (Copyrights, Emulators, ROMs, etc.) .::. Size~: 30.26 KB | Jul 30 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Nintendo is famous for bringing back to life its popular characters for its newer systems" | Jul 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo uses emulators in Virtual Console. | Jul 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Companies that complain about emulators have even been found distributing emulators under the GPL/LGPL without complying with the license. | Jul 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Sega got caught doing that. | Jul 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | iirc, they used code from gens to develop a Genesis game collection for the Dreamcast and XBOX Live Arcade. | Jul 30 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why anyone should figure that it's wrong to have a different attitude than the people they're dealing with. | Jul 30 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | If big video game companies figure that violating the GPL is only a problem if they get caught, why should their customers feel differently about ROMs? | Jul 30 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | "No, the current availability of a game in stores is irrelevant as to its copyright status." | Jul 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Can I play with your toys? | Jul 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | NO! | Jul 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Well why not? You're not doing anything with them? | Jul 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | THAT'S NOT THE POINT! | Jul 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | "U.S. copyright laws state that copyrights owned by corporations are valid for 75 years from the date of first publication. Because video games have been around for less than three decades, the copyrights of all video games will not expire for many decades to come." | Jul 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | They're still lobbying for "forever minus one day". | Jul 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | The US constitution says that Congress can only grant a copyright for a limited time, so the maximalists are arguing that forever minus one day satisfies that requirement. | Jul 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | At the current rate, it won't be long before the shorter wait for copyrights to expire will be to wait until the United States government no longer exists. | Jul 30 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC | It is true that part of Nintendo's revenue stream is emulating old games without fixing any of the bugs. | Jul 30 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the remakes even have most of the same bugs as the old NES version had. | Jul 30 22:59 |
| abeNd-org | but if nintendo is still selling that game, why should it be legal to pirate it? | Jul 30 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | $5 for a 20 year old video game that's tied to your Wii with DRM. | Jul 30 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | At least if your NES failed you could buy a new one and keep all your games. | Jul 30 23:07 |
| abeNd-org | im pretty sure you can migrate it to your wiiU | Jul 30 23:27 |
| abeNd-org | i know i migrated the few games i had on my DSiXL to my 3DS | Jul 30 23:28 |
| abeNd-org | & the 3DS lets you backup your games to SD | Jul 30 23:35 |
| abeNd-org | at least you can sell used wiiu games (non digital), "rumor mill" sounded like ps4/xbone wouldnt | Jul 30 23:44 |
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