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| DaemonFC | That Foamy the squirrel cartoon had me laughing my ass off. | Sep 14 00:01 |
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| DaemonFC | The one where he said they say "MP3 Ready" as an excuse to up the price of the car a thousand dollars. | Sep 14 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | Then pointed out the special cassette tapes they have that you plug into your MP3 player. | Sep 14 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | $12. | Sep 14 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | My other favorite is when you blow a speaker, and the speaker is like $15 at Auto Zone, but they have a $35 connector adapter. | Sep 14 00:02 |
| DaemonFC | I took out my pocket knife and stripped some insulation off both wires and twisted them together. | Sep 14 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'm with Stallman on that much at least. | Sep 14 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | I try to live cheaply. | Sep 14 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | That means learning how to do a lot of things yourself. | Sep 14 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | The more money you need, the more "they" have you by the balls. | Sep 14 00:05 |
| MinceR | or you could just buy a car stereo that has mp3 (or at least aux in) capability | Sep 14 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | Yout could. | Sep 14 00:06 |
| MinceR | then again, the original might have an aux input | Sep 14 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | Ford did something nasty there. | Sep 14 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | In the newer Taurus models at least. | Sep 14 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | You not only have to buy the deck, you have to buy a replacement cover plate for all the controls that surround the factory deck. | Sep 14 00:07 |
| MinceR | do those new decks have an aux input? | Sep 14 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Not all of them. | Sep 14 00:09 |
| MinceR | ic | Sep 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | From the 1997 redesign to the 2004-2005 (not really sure). | Sep 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Those don't have it. | Sep 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | The 2006 and later does. | Sep 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | And I think the 2005 SES and SEL does. | Sep 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | But not the LX or SE. | Sep 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | Stay away from the LX models. | Sep 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | The lowest you want to go with the Taurus is the GL/SE. | Sep 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | The LX don't even have a cassette deck or CD player. | Sep 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | No cruise control either. | Sep 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Which is a pain in the ass on long trips. | Sep 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | There's not a huge price difference between LX and GL/SE. | Sep 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | There is a huge price difference with the SES and SEL. | Sep 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | The SES has power everything and a moonroof, and a CD player. | Sep 14 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | It has an option for the 24 valve DOHC V6, but not all of them have that. | Sep 14 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | The SEL has the 24 valve DOHC V6 standard, along with everything on the SEL. | Sep 14 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | err, SES | Sep 14 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | I think the SEL also has some minor upgrades over SES, but I can't remember what. | Sep 14 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | The moon roof upgrade alone ran an extra $600 when the car was new. | Sep 14 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | If you're looking at a 2002 Taurus LX and a 2002 SEL with identical mileage, you might pay $200-300 more for the SEL, which is totally worth it. | Sep 14 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | You get a lot more car for the money. | Sep 14 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | When it was new, it was about a $12,000 difference I believe. | Sep 14 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | Base model cars suck. | Sep 14 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | They only exist because it lets them list a lower price on the commercials, and some of the people who can't afford the good one still want to say they drive that car. | Sep 14 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's like what Apple has going on with the $599 Mac Mini. | Sep 14 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a great computer, but you can still say you have a Mac. | Sep 14 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | So they rope in some of the poorer customers. :) | Sep 14 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's a hook. It gets them the lower end of the market, and it's a lead in to get people looking for what they really want to buy. | Sep 14 00:17 |
| MinceR | no mac is great, though | Sep 14 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. Same parts as any other PC. | Sep 14 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Huge markup. | Sep 14 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | The biggest difference is some lockout crap so their OS won't work on other PCs. | Sep 14 00:20 |
| MinceR | and the gimmicks that occasionally make their products extra unreliable and/or extra dangerous | Sep 14 00:20 |
| MinceR | because they weren't designed or tested thoroughly, just thrown in | Sep 14 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | That's kind of how I feel about Chevrolet. | Sep 14 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Their quality control is really terrible. | Sep 14 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | They unleash all kinds of dangerous and unreliable crap on an unsuspecting public. | Sep 14 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know who owns Jeep now. | Sep 14 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | I just know I'll never buy one because that's what my aunt was driving when she was in the wreck that killed her a couple weeks ago. | Sep 14 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | A 2007 Jeep Liberty. | Sep 14 00:22 |
| MinceR | wp says it's a division of chrysler | Sep 14 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | I honestly believe that if she had had the same wreck in my car, she'd still be alive right now. | Sep 14 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | My car probably wouldn't have flipped 8 times. | Sep 14 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | It would have been totaled. | Sep 14 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | The driver might be in the hospital. | Sep 14 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | But I don't believe my car would have flipped 8 times and landed upside down. | Sep 14 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have a few broken bones than be dead. | Sep 14 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | I do believe that Jeep is the reason my aunt is dead. | Sep 14 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | She had a thing for SUVs. | Sep 14 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | They're not as safe as people think. | Sep 14 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Ford had a similar problem with the early 2000s Explorer. | Sep 14 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | But that traced back to the Firestone tires they came with. | Sep 14 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | The tire would just explode while you were driving. | Sep 14 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | Big lawsuit. | Sep 14 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'm only interested in 4 door sedans and minivans. | Sep 14 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | One thing you find out is those are a LOT cheaper to insure. | Sep 14 00:27 |
| MinceR | at least they threaten other cars more | Sep 14 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Insurance companies seem to think those appeal to more responsible drivers. | Sep 14 00:27 |
| MinceR | so maybe some of those assholes will be less likely to cut you off | Sep 14 00:27 |
| MinceR | then again, an APC would be better | Sep 14 00:27 |
| MinceR | (but those use even more fuel) | Sep 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Sep 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Drive a Stryker around in Fort Wayne. | Sep 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | That'll make them give you some room. :) | Sep 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just waiting for a civilian model vehicle with the name Stryker. | Sep 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | They did it with Hummer. | Sep 14 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's also useful if the Aliens and Predators invade. | Sep 14 00:30 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 14 00:30 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?vin=1FAHP56S82A256233&partner=VSR_0 | Sep 14 00:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.carfax.com | CARFAX Vehicle History Report for this 2002 FORD TAURUS SEL [ http://ur1.ca/fj279 ] | Sep 14 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | Free carfax report on the Taurus I'm looking at. | Sep 14 00:31 |
| DaemonFC | It says there were three owners and accident damage reported. | Sep 14 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | accident damage doesn't really matter to me, as long as it was fixed properly. | Sep 14 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | Insurance usually covers that. | Sep 14 00:32 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder what this car would do to my insurance. | Sep 14 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Probably not much, I'd imagine. I'm already insuring a car that could do a similar amount of damage in a crash. | Sep 14 00:38 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm quite fond of my current VIN number though. | Sep 14 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | It was really easy to remember because of the first several characters. | Sep 14 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | The string after the 1FALP starts with SG1 | Sep 14 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 14 00:42 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 14 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.debtsmart.com/pages/article_car_on_credit.html | Sep 14 00:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.debtsmart.com | Consider Financing Your Next Car with a Credit Card - DebtSmart.com [ http://ur1.ca/fj2hf ] | Sep 14 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | "First, when you use a credit card, the loan is unsecured. That means that if for some reason you have financial problems in the future, your car is not in jeopardy of being repossessed. You own it outright. The bank can't visit you in the middle of the night and drive it away." | Sep 14 00:49 |
| DaemonFC | Well, your credit card company could sue you and get a wage garnishment, but yeah, they can't drive off with your car... | Sep 14 00:49 |
| MinceR | now i know which country my car was made in :> | Sep 14 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2665/v43v.jpg | Sep 14 01:22 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.paulrichardgm.com/VehicleDetails/used-2000-Ford-Windstar_Wagon-3dr_LX-Peru-IN/2075396193 | Sep 14 01:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.paulrichardgm.com | 2000 Ford Windstar Wagon for sale in Peru - 2FMZA5147YBB05594 - Paul-Richard GM Center [ http://ur1.ca/fj3h7 ] | Sep 14 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | Might go look at this. | Sep 14 01:44 |
| MinceR | is it worth shipping from Peru? :> | Sep 14 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Peru, Indiana? | Sep 14 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | That's only 35 miles from here. | Sep 14 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's also a Kokomo, Indiana. | Sep 14 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | And a Palestine, Indiana. | Sep 14 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | And a Mexico, Indiana. | Sep 14 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I just have to go look at that van. | Sep 14 02:03 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 14 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | If it checks out, I'll pay cash for it and I'll own a van tomorrow. | Sep 14 02:03 |
| MinceR | it's a small world ;) | Sep 14 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I can't believe he only wants $2,000 for it. | Sep 14 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if he'd give me anything for the Taurus. Probably not. | Sep 14 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be better off to sell it myself. | Sep 14 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Put it up for like $800, and it'll sell within a week. | Sep 14 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | I just want rid of it. | Sep 14 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if the guy will let me put some of it on my credit card. | Sep 14 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | That's one thing I hate about online banks. | Sep 14 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | You can only get your money out $500 per day. | Sep 14 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | I could write him a check if he'd take it. | Sep 14 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | I have a feeling they'd let me use credit. | Sep 14 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | They get paid right away, and the car is off their lot. | Sep 14 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Tax, title, and registration would add about $200. | Sep 14 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | #%@$ing state. | Sep 14 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | I know what I can do. I'm on my mom's account at her credit union. | Sep 14 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | I can write myself a check for $1,100 and cash it. | Sep 14 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | hah! | Sep 14 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Some dealerships are jerks about accepting credit cards. | Sep 14 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I'll just call and ask | Sep 14 02:20 |
| MinceR | gn | Sep 14 02:24 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-launches-ipad-trade-in-promotion-7000020629/ Hmmm | Sep 14 08:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Microsoft launches iPad trade-in promotion | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fj8nq ] | Sep 14 08:27 |
| msb__ | Dilbert gets political: http://hf.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-09-14 | Sep 14 08:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hf.dilbert.com | Dilbert comic strip for 09/14/2013 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. [ http://ur1.ca/fj8sc ] | Sep 14 08:35 |
| oiaohm | msb__: did you find the start of that one. | Sep 14 08:39 |
| msb__ | Of that sequence of comic strips? | Sep 14 08:40 |
| oiaohm | msb__: yep. | Sep 14 08:40 |
| msb__ | hold on | Sep 14 08:40 |
| oiaohm | msb__: starts with the company having no operational backups. | Sep 14 08:40 |
| msb__ | right! | Sep 14 08:40 |
| msb__ | So Dilbert steals them back from the NSA. | Sep 14 08:41 |
| oiaohm | http://hf.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-09-06/ | Sep 14 08:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hf.dilbert.com | Dilbert comic strip for 09/06/2013 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. [ http://ur1.ca/fj8us ] | Sep 14 08:41 |
| oiaohm | msb__: really it going to be interesting to see where the strip goes. | Sep 14 08:43 |
| msb__ | Started: http://hf.dilbert.com/2013-09-06 | Sep 14 08:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hf.dilbert.com | The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' color comic strips, animation, mashups and more! | Sep 14 08:43 |
| oiaohm | msb__: same link 2 different ways of getting there. | Sep 14 08:44 |
| oiaohm | msb__: really no dogbert yet. | Sep 14 08:44 |
| oiaohm | All these major Dilbert disasters dogbert has to apper someone. | Sep 14 08:45 |
| msb__ | I doubt that this subplot will go any further. | Sep 14 08:45 |
| oiaohm | msb__: there are a lot more paths it can go yet. | Sep 14 08:46 |
| msb__ | But this Syrian false-flag affair has killed almost all the trust people had in the U.S. govt. | Sep 14 08:47 |
| msb__ | We'll see. I hope you're right. | Sep 14 08:47 |
| msb__ | What little trust was left. | Sep 14 08:48 |
| oiaohm | http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-09-02/ msb__ I guess you missed this one. | Sep 14 08:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | dilbert.com | Dilbert comic strip for 09/02/2013 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. [ http://ur1.ca/fj8xn ] | Sep 14 08:50 |
| msb__ | The last one, the Boston Marathon bombing, where the head of the FBI went on TV and told everyone not to look at those pictures all over the Web of govt operatives with backpacks with bombs in them... that was pretty funny. You have to wonder what those people are thinking. | Sep 14 08:52 |
| msb__ | Yes, 9/02 was cute. | Sep 14 08:54 |
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| oiaohm | msb__: I am waiting for the embency seigh in that recent political strip. | Sep 14 08:55 |
| oiaohm | msb__: Its going to look really wrong. | Sep 14 08:55 |
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| msb__ | oiaohm: Maybe the Elbonians will fortify their embassy with a wall of mud. | Sep 14 08:57 |
| msb__ | Dilbert could hide out in Elbonia, half submerged, until it all blows over. | Sep 14 09:00 |
| oiaohm | msb__: mud there is the option of a moat where the forces watching are having trouble. | Sep 14 09:01 |
| oiaohm | msb__: so proven that the embassy is in a good location. | Sep 14 09:01 |
| oiaohm | msb__: basically there are a few options. | Sep 14 09:02 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: He's a tech genius. He could create missiles for Elbonia that would make it the most powerful nation on Earth. | Sep 14 09:02 |
| oiaohm | msb__: rember dogbert deals with the russias at times. | Sep 14 09:02 |
| oiaohm | Yes dogbert to the resuce | Sep 14 09:02 |
| msb__ | oiaohm: One of them would fire accidently, and hit Washington DC, but would turn out to have a mud warhead. | Sep 14 09:03 |
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| msb__ | Big splat on the Whitehouse. | Sep 14 09:03 |
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| msb__ | We'll see in a couple of days. | Sep 14 09:07 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Sep 14 13:58 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: hi | Sep 14 14:05 |
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| iophk | Is there any merit in having a link aggregation site like FSDaily? | Sep 14 16:03 |
| iophk | http://www.fsdaily.com/ | Sep 14 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.fsdaily.com | Published | fsdaily.com - Free Software News | Sep 14 16:03 |
| iophk | It seems neglected these days. | Sep 14 16:03 |
| MinceR | they can be useful sources for a news feed | Sep 14 16:04 |
| iophk | Is there not much FOSS news to highlight any more? | Sep 14 16:04 |
| MinceR | dunno | Sep 14 16:10 |
| iophk | The H also went away. That had a lot of FOSS news. | Sep 14 16:16 |
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| sebsebseb | iophk: ping? | Sep 14 16:24 |
| iophk | sebsebseb: pong | Sep 14 16:24 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/munich-distributes-linux-cds | Sep 14 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | Munich distributes Linux CDs | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/fjdlz ] | Sep 14 16:24 |
| sebsebseb | yes I already read about that | Sep 14 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | they are going to give out loads of Lubuntu's | Sep 14 16:25 |
| iophk | Lubuntu would be a better fit for ancient hardware. | Sep 14 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | Mageia, has LXDE, and XFCE and Enlightment and such to :d | Sep 14 16:25 |
| sebsebseb | LXDE and XFCE look rather nice in Magiea :d | Sep 14 16:25 |
| iophk | Yes, you should show those desktops on Mageia at the Installfest | Sep 14 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Sep 14 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | also looks like got a venue now or probably | Sep 14 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | I mean got to confirm stuff on Tuesday with others and all that, but yeah | Sep 14 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | the hotel no no something else, and they use open source stuff | Sep 14 16:26 |
| sebsebseb | probably the best one to go with really to, since ther's a hall with loads of plugs by the sounds of it | Sep 14 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | that's accessible etc | Sep 14 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | plus can probably get them quite cheap | Sep 14 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: anyway I am thinking again hmm to the classical installer for Magiea | Sep 14 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | I mean I am doing a Mageia 4 Alpha 2 vm again, but using the classicla this time | Sep 14 16:27 |
| iophk | What's the main difference? | Sep 14 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | since some issue with other one | Sep 14 16:27 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: classical installer is a full DVD ISO | Sep 14 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | then it's just Live Media's really | Sep 14 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | and a dual CD with whatever it was, and that's for both 32bit and 64bit, but I don't use that | Sep 14 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | for install fest | Sep 14 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | with the clasical installer I can tell it to install all or pretty much all of the de's and wm's :) in an option and that's what I have done in the vm | Sep 14 16:28 |
| sebsebseb | thing is when doing that kind of thing, the install will then take an hour or more | Sep 14 16:29 |
| iophk | I would have both i386 and AMD64 available. You won't know what people are going to bring. | Sep 14 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | so using classical installer has it's advantages, but also it's diadvantages | Sep 14 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | I think I have Live Media availalbe, but also classical installers :d | Sep 14 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: not sure what the intenret is like at that other place, but probably resaonably good, and better than the hotels :d | Sep 14 16:31 |
| sebsebseb | so in that case may not need to set up local repo's etc | Sep 14 16:31 |
| iophk | I'd check it in advance to be sure. If the net is no good, that can be a real downer for an installation | Sep 14 16:32 |
| sebsebseb | yep indeed | Sep 14 16:32 |
| sebsebseb | need a venue visit before booking them probably | Sep 14 16:32 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: also if they can have loads of computers on the Internet at once in the hall | Sep 14 16:33 |
| sebsebseb | that's good :) | Sep 14 16:33 |
| iophk | Yes, but depending on the bandwidth you might want something to help | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: classical installer has it's advantages and disadvantges | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | you just say I want this and that desktop and it installs and takes an hour or so | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | or you go with one desktop, and then if want others have to get from repo's | Sep 14 16:34 |
| iophk | An hour!?!? | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: yes an hour | Sep 14 16:34 |
| iophk | Is there a net-install version? | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | seems to always take an hour or more | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | when usinsg the classical installer | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | and telling to to do al the desktops | Sep 14 16:34 |
| sebsebseb | be that on pshyicall installer or virtual machines | Sep 14 16:35 |
| iophk | !google mageia netinstall | Sep 14 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Installation Media - Mageia wiki | https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media | Sep 14 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Installing Mageia - Mageia wiki | https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installing_Mageia | Sep 14 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Boot.iso install - Mageia wiki | https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Boot.iso_install | Sep 14 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Mageia Linux VMware Install 2 of 3 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DEP7W8kv0qrI | Sep 14 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | pshciall hardware or virtual machines | Sep 14 16:35 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: the boot iso is the dual I think | Sep 14 16:35 |
| iophk | https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media#Network_Installs | Sep 14 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | wiki.mageia.org | Installation Media - Mageia wiki [ http://ur1.ca/fjdq1 ] | Sep 14 16:35 |
| iophk | If you have a fast LAN and a local repository, you might be able to cut the install time significantly. I used to be able to do a Debian installation in about 10-15 minutes with a local repository. | Sep 14 16:36 |
| iophk | Have you figured out a list of things to talk about or show the new users during the 1-hour install process? | Sep 14 16:39 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: use the boot.iso to point to the local repo's, where got all the desktops already installed etC? | Sep 14 16:40 |
| sebsebseb | and then do installs like that, and then make sure it's pointing to the real Internet repo's before people leave? | Sep 14 16:40 |
| iophk | Yes, like that. Point them at the local repos. I guess the old machines (non-Apple) will have only 100Mbps connections though. | Sep 14 16:40 |
| iophk | But that ought to be faster than DVD | Sep 14 16:40 |
| sebsebseb | yeah and Live CD can take about 20 minutes or more | Sep 14 16:41 |
| sebsebseb | ,but then that's only KDE or GNOME | Sep 14 16:41 |
| sebsebseb | for the Live CD's/DVD's | Sep 14 16:41 |
| sebsebseb | also the Live CD is only 32bit, but then there are Live Media's with more langauges etc that are also 64bit | Sep 14 16:41 |
| sebsebseb | Live DVD's that was for the second bit | Sep 14 16:41 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: ,but downloading loads of desktops etc, from Internet repo's takes quite a long time | Sep 14 16:42 |
| sebsebseb | nad oh I know | Sep 14 16:42 |
| sebsebseb | and that's what need to try and avoide I think | Sep 14 16:42 |
| sebsebseb | if possible, I mean these people won't want to sit there waiting for stuff to get installed really? | Sep 14 16:42 |
| sebsebseb | iophk: us geeks may like watching the installer, I do :d | Sep 14 16:42 |
| sebsebseb | ,but average people uh no | Sep 14 16:43 |
| sebsebseb | plus we want to do one install, guide people through a bit etc, then to th next, etc etc | Sep 14 16:43 |
| sebsebseb | not spend say an hour with one person | Sep 14 16:43 |
| iophk | ok. As long as there is a plan to keep them occupied and happy during the hour. | Sep 14 16:44 |
| iophk | If the wait can be shortened that is even better. | Sep 14 16:44 |
| sebsebseb | or have them coming back later, when helping someone else to get an instal done, since there install is done, and now want some help with programs | Sep 14 16:44 |
| sebsebseb | well local repo's is the way to shorten stuff | Sep 14 16:45 |
| sebsebseb | isn't it? | Sep 14 16:45 |
| iophk | I think so. It's what I would try. | Sep 14 16:45 |
| sebsebseb | make sure that got all programs tht want them to possibly leave with, installed in the local repo's and yeah | Sep 14 16:45 |
| sebsebseb | Tuxpaint, educaiton stuff the lot | Sep 14 16:45 |
| iophk | As mentioned before, be sure they are comfortable installing packages. | Sep 14 16:47 |
| iophk | You can use Tuxpaint to have them try their hand at installation to see that it is neither hard nor scary. | Sep 14 16:47 |
| iophk | gtg | Sep 14 16:48 |
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| Sosumi | yay, and here I am, having to boot winblows just to watch a flash video on youtube | Sep 14 19:40 |
| Sosumi | sometimes I just think in building a cheapo pc just to reproduce flash based content | Sep 14 19:41 |
| *MinceR is watching Trash video on youtube on GNU/Linux right now | Sep 14 19:42 | |
| Sosumi | with chrome? | Sep 14 19:43 |
| Sosumi | or using the deprecated "trash" player from adobe | Sep 14 19:44 |
| MinceR | no, with firefox | Sep 14 19:44 |
| MinceR | and with the deprecated trash plugin, yes :> | Sep 14 19:44 |
| Sosumi | the deprecated trash player doesn't even let you "easily" block the thing from storing files on your pc | Sep 14 19:45 |
| MinceR | at least it can function outside Crashe and Crashium :> | Sep 14 19:46 |
| Sosumi | yes, but then again, it's a pain to configure it | Sep 14 19:48 |
| Sosumi | also, the last time I had the trash player on my fedora install, I was forced to close firefox to disable/enable the plugin | Sep 14 19:51 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Sep 14 19:53 |
| MinceR | i've created a separate profile for it | Sep 14 19:54 |
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| cubezzz | test | Sep 14 22:08 |
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| DaemonFC | They sold that van before I even called them. | Sep 14 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | damn it | Sep 14 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | So, now I'm still shopping for a van. :( | Sep 14 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cityautomall.com/VehicleDetails/used-2001-Chevrolet-Venture-4dr_Ext_WB_Plus_Y3H_Mobility_Pkg-Columbia_City-IN/2046997143 | Sep 14 23:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cityautomall.com | 2001 Chevrolet Venture for sale in Columbia City - 1GNDX03E91D153157 - City Automall [ http://ur1.ca/fjkcw ] | Sep 14 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | Sent an email about this one. | Sep 14 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'll go check it out on Monday. | Sep 14 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-EjwTifgbY | Sep 14 23:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 2001 Chevrolet Chevy Venture 3400 GM Engine 3.4 Liter Dual Sliding Doors - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fjkic ] | Sep 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 14 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'll try to talk the guy down a bit. | Sep 14 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | If it checks out, I'd pay $2,000-$2,200 for the one I'm looking at. | Sep 14 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cityautomall.com/VehicleDetails/used-2000-Chevrolet-Venture-4dr_Ext_WB_LS_1SC_Pkg-Columbia_City-IN/2067803803 | Sep 14 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cityautomall.com | 2000 Chevrolet Venture for sale in Columbia City - 1GNDX03E5YD121073 - City Automall [ http://ur1.ca/fjkli ] | Sep 14 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Definitely not interested in this one. | Sep 14 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | It's got rust and it's been in at least two accidents. :P | Sep 14 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khDdRExFF-k | Sep 14 23:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Toddler Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fjko2 ] | Sep 14 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Sep 14 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DO9nXs18js | Sep 14 23:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Labor Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fjkos ] | Sep 14 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsfyxoL2ME4 | Sep 14 23:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Home Sweet Home Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fjkr3 ] | Sep 14 23:45 |
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