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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QgWRycd7I | Sep 19 04:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | the simpsons canyonero - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/flpty ] | Sep 19 04:42 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/massive-music-piracy-plunge-fails-to-halt-decline-in-sales-130919/ | Sep 19 09:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Massive Music Piracy Plunge Fails to Halt Decline in Sales | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fltme ] | Sep 19 09:27 |
| iophk | on copyright levies : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxmWYN88wc0 | Sep 19 09:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Pirate MEP: Abolish Copyright Levies Now! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fltoc ] | Sep 19 09:31 |
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| iophk | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57603245-93/how-facebook-stands-to-gain-by-sharing-its-trade-secrets/ | Sep 19 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.cnet.com | How Facebook stands to gain by sharing its trade secrets | Internet & Media - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/flvwq ] | Sep 19 12:21 |
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| iophk1 | http://www.zdnet.com/intel-the-year-of-the-linux-desktop-is-here-7000020849/ | Sep 19 13:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Intel: The year of the Linux desktop is here | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/flwo8 ] | Sep 19 13:15 |
| iophk1 | M$ Ohloh / M$ Blackduck - http://readwrite.com/2013/09/17/a-visual-history-of-the-last-20-years-of-open-source-code | Sep 19 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | readwrite.com | A Visual History Of The Last 20 Years Of Open Source Code – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/flwq1 ] | Sep 19 13:19 |
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| iophk | http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/09/nokia-corporation-adr-nok-ex-ceo-to-get-e18-8-million/ | Sep 19 18:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.valuewalk.com | Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK) ex-CEO Elop To Get €18.8 Million [ http://ur1.ca/fm2wt ] | Sep 19 18:38 |
| iophk | "Elop’s proposed €18.8 million compensationElop’s proposed €18.8 million compensation" | Sep 19 18:38 |
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| iophk | a bit more revisionism here : | Sep 19 19:35 |
| iophk | http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-331996/ | Sep 19 19:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | stream.wsj.com | Nokia’s Stephen Elop to Receive About $25.5 Million - Wall Street Journal - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/fm475 ] | Sep 19 19:35 |
| iophk | Symbian was still profitable. The article is also one of many which neglect the rising start, Meego, which was getting great reviews. | Sep 19 19:35 |
| iophk | There's no "mixed legacy" at all. | Sep 19 19:38 |
| iophk | With Elop it was all down hill. | Sep 19 19:38 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/nokia-resurrect-newkia-gets-warm-reception-7000020710/ | Sep 19 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Nokia-resurrect Newkia gets warm reception | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fm4fr ] | Sep 19 19:44 |
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| iophk | http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/09/nokia-corporation-adr-nok-ex-ceo-to-get-e18-8-million/ | Sep 19 13:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.valuewalk.com | Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK) ex-CEO Elop To Get 18.8 Million [ http://ur1.ca/fm2wt ] | Sep 19 13:38 |
| iophk | "Elops proposed 18.8 million compensationElops proposed 18.8 million compensation" | Sep 19 13:38 |
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| iophk | a bit more revisionism here : | Sep 19 14:35 |
| iophk | http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-331996/ | Sep 19 14:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | stream.wsj.com | Nokias Stephen Elop to Receive About $25.5 Million - Wall Street Journal - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/fm475 ] | Sep 19 14:35 |
| iophk | Symbian was still profitable. The article is also one of many which neglect the rising start, Meego, which was getting great reviews. | Sep 19 14:35 |
| iophk | There's no "mixed legacy" at all. | Sep 19 14:38 |
| iophk | With Elop it was all down hill. | Sep 19 14:38 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/nokia-resurrect-newkia-gets-warm-reception-7000020710/ | Sep 19 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Nokia-resurrect Newkia gets warm reception | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fm4fr ] | Sep 19 14:44 |
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| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3080820 | Sep 19 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: $500,000 Sweetheart Deal for Koch-Tied GOP Lobby Group Moves Forward http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/08/12228/500000-sweetheart-deal-koch-tied-gop-lobby-group-moves-forward "promoting hunting" (killing) | Sep 19 20:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.prwatch.org | $500,000 Sweetheart Deal for Koch-Tied GOP Lobby Group Moves Forward | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/fmalo ] | Sep 19 20:32 |
| schestowitz_mob | |Gosh, sometimes I can't believe things like this. Lets start with Promoting hunting. Only make the grant available to a certain group without public knowledge or the competing groups. What is wrong with our government! Gosh.|" | Sep 19 20:32 |
| tessier | ROFL: https://fsfe.org/activities/policy/eu/20130729.EC.Fairsearch.letter.en.html | Sep 19 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fsfe.org | FSFE objects to claims of 'predatory pricing' in Free Software [ http://ur1.ca/fmays ] | Sep 19 21:07 |
| tessier | As usual, they get ZERO sympathy from me. | Sep 19 21:07 |
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| DaemonFC | I went to the dealership today and test drove that Pontiac Montana... | Sep 19 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | It had filthy engine coolant, filthy oil, sludge in the engine, and transmission fluid that was probably due to be replaced a few years ago. | Sep 19 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Test drove it. | Sep 19 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | The transmission had trouble shifting from gear 2 to gear 3. | Sep 19 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | I brought it up to the salesman and mentioned that it would probably be the torque converter clutch solenoid. | Sep 19 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | That's a $500 repair. | Sep 19 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Didn't buy the van. | Sep 19 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | He just got in a new one that I'm looking over though. | Sep 19 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Basically the same kind of van, it's just called an Oldsmobile Silhouette instead. | Sep 19 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | The pictures look good, but Carfax says this one has been in two accidents, including a deer strike. | Sep 19 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | So when I go back there tomorrow I'm going to say to the salesman "If you can make me an offer on this van that's in the ballpark of the price you wanted on the Montana, and I look it over and test drive it and like it, I will consider this one." | Sep 19 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Someone repaired the accident damage. They did a decent job too. | Sep 19 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | But it's something to bring up when you're talking price. | Sep 19 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cityautomall.com/VehicleDetails/used-2004-Ford-Crown_Victoria-4dr_Sdn_LX-Columbia_City-IN/2050909453 | Sep 19 23:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.cityautomall.com | 2004 Ford Crown Victoria for sale in Columbia City - 2FAFP74W24X115791 - City Automall [ http://ur1.ca/fmcpd ] | Sep 19 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Also looking at this. | Sep 19 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | I looked at it today. | Sep 19 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | I pointed out that it has an exhaust manifold leak and possibly a bad ABS sensor. | Sep 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | The guy said it's close to going to an auction. | Sep 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Asked him what he'd get for it at an auction. He said "Probably $2400 to $2500.". | Sep 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | So I think I can lean on him and get him down to 24 or 25 myself so he doesn't have to auction it. | Sep 19 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | The leaking exhaust manifold is a $650 repair. The ABS sensor job is probably $150-200. | Sep 19 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'm having my mechanic check it out tomorrow. | Sep 19 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | If that's all it is, and I can get the salesman down to 24 or 25, I'll probably buy it. | Sep 19 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | GM vehicles have serious reliability problems. | Sep 19 23:29 |
| DaemonFC | A few common ones seem to be failure of the fuel tank sensor (causes the gas gauge to go from reading full to empty and never telling you how much gas you really have), failure of windshield wiper motors, questionable transmissions, and various engine problems, especially with the earlier 3400 V6 where the intake manifold gaskets. | Sep 19 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen a Ford that does weird shit like that. | Sep 19 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody can afford to drive a GM vehicle really. | Sep 19 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's another $500 repair every month. | Sep 19 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was telling my mother how Ford and Nissan cooperated to design a van. | Sep 19 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | One became the Nissan Quest and one became the Mercury (which was a Ford brand) Villager. | Sep 19 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | I told her that the Quest was made in Japan and the Villager was made in Ohio. | Sep 19 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | I said "I'd rather have the Nissan Quest". | Sep 19 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | She said "Aren't they the same van?" | Sep 19 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | I told her "Yeah, basically, but when I think about the Japanese, I don't think of a 400 pound man picking his butt and smoking a cigarette, saying 'I can assemble this shit backwards and upside down all day and you can't fire me because I'm in a union!'". | Sep 19 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Although.... I would much rather drive a Ford van than a GM van. | Sep 19 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | same goes for cars | Sep 19 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Stuff does break/wear out on Fords, but it's not usually something else every week, or "I replaced this same part three times this year!". | Sep 19 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Ford just makes better stuff. It's a fact. | Sep 19 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone can go on Edmunds.com and pull up a vehicle and compare reliability. | Sep 19 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.carsdirect.com/car-repair/exhaust-manifold-leak-repair-cost-average-prices-to-expect | Sep 19 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.carsdirect.com | Exhaust Manifold Leak Repair Cost: Average Prices to Expect - CarsDirect [ http://ur1.ca/fmd0k ] | Sep 19 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | "An exhaust manifold leak can be very damaging to your engine if it's not taken care of in a timely manner. A leaking exhaust manifold gasket can cause a burned exhaust valve, which can cause exhaust from the combustion chamber to flow the wrong way into the the intake manifold." | Sep 19 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, well, my Ford Taurus has had an exhaust manifold leak that I've never fixed. | Sep 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | It has been leaking for about 5 years now. | Sep 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | The car still runs. :) | Sep 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | Now how stupid would I feel right now if I paid $650 to fix it? :) | Sep 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty damned stupid. | Sep 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | In the end though, I am on a budget, so what I drive will be what I can get the best deal on. | Sep 19 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I can check into that van. They're asking too much, but from what I know about the guy, he'll come down. | Sep 19 23:51 |
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| DaemonFC | It's almost impossible to find a low mileage used van. | Sep 19 23:59 |
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| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Awful_Green_Things_From_Outer_Space | Sep 20 01:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | The Awful Green Things From Outer Space - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fmedq ] | Sep 20 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | One of my favorites. | Sep 20 01:19 |
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| DaemonFC | http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/coca-cola-apologizes-offensive-bottle-cap/story?id=20308898 | Sep 20 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | abcnews.go.com | Coca-Cola Apologizes for Offensive Bottle Cap - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/fmeuo ] | Sep 20 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Sep 20 01:56 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 20 02:18 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Back to wheeling and dealing tomorrow | Sep 20 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think I can get a good deal on this van. | Sep 20 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Sep 20 02:28 |
| *DaemonFC goes to bed. | Sep 20 02:28 | |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 20 02:29 |
| MinceR | o/ | Sep 20 02:29 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Sep 20 03:42 |
| iophk | http://www.infoworld.com/t/hybrid-cloud/microsofts-deal-att-shows-the-new-path-cloud-partnerships-227164 | Sep 20 03:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.infoworld.com | Microsoft's deal with AT&T shows the new path for cloud partnerships | Hybrid cloud - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fmg7w ] | Sep 20 03:44 |
| JimmyCarter | bill gates still #1 richest man? | Sep 20 03:47 |
| JimmyCarter | his charity isnt trying as hard as i thought | Sep 20 03:47 |
| iophk | It's about maneuvering for power and influence, not actually about giving money away. | Sep 20 03:47 |
| iophk | It's used in part to fight Linux and FOSS | Sep 20 03:47 |
| MinceR | the Colbert Report i saw yesterday said he was, according to Forbes | Sep 20 03:47 |
| MinceR | but then the top 5 were all douchebags | Sep 20 03:47 |
| iophk | That's how you get to the top. | Sep 20 03:48 |
| MinceR | gates, buffett, Law Suit Larry, the koch brothers | Sep 20 03:48 |
| iophk | http://techrights.org/2013/05/28/marching-against-monopoly/ | Sep 20 03:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Time for People to March Against Bill Gates, Not Just Monsanto | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/e2tkl ] | Sep 20 03:49 |
| iophk | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Sep 20 03:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1e8bh ] | Sep 20 03:49 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/stop-using-nsa-influence-code-in-our-product-rsa-tells-customers/ | Sep 20 03:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Stop using NSA-influenced code in our products, RSA tells customers | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fmgbv ] | Sep 20 03:52 |
| iophk | Things accidentally turned out ok : http://torrentfreak.com/facebook-added-to-russian-website-blocklist-joins-30000-unofficial-others-130920/ | Sep 20 03:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Facebook Added to Russian Website Blocklist, Joins 30,000 Unofficial Others | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fmgc8 ] | Sep 20 03:53 |
| iophk | wrong direction, ODF is the appropriate way : https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/news/renewed-german-swiss-support-office-interoperability-project | Sep 20 03:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | Renewed German Swiss support office interoperability project | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/fmgdb ] | Sep 20 03:55 |
| iophk | though M$ will never properly support it. | Sep 20 03:55 |
| iophk | But letting M$ control the data via control of the file format is a bad idea. | Sep 20 03:56 |
| iophk | Actively working to extend that control into FOSS applications is even stupider. | Sep 20 03:56 |
| iophk | http://www.eweek.com/database/30-years-ago-the-rise-fall-and-survival-of-ashton-tates-dbase.html | Sep 20 04:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.eweek.com | 30 Years Ago: The Rise, Fall and Survival of Ashton-Tate's dBASE [ http://ur1.ca/fmghu ] | Sep 20 04:06 |
| iophk | dBase saved a lot of work back in its day | Sep 20 04:06 |
| iophk | based on Public Domain code | Sep 20 04:09 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-and-riaa-to-teach-copyright-at-kindergartens-130918/ | Sep 20 04:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | MPAA and RIAA Teach Copyright at Kindergartens | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/flxy0 ] | Sep 20 04:10 |
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| JimmyCarter | Should the NSA be considered bureaucratically sentient? | Sep 20 06:08 |
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| iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2049060/ballmer-strongly-hints-at-office-for-ipad-and-android-tablets.html | Sep 20 06:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Ballmer strongly hints at Office for iPad and Android tablets | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fmi0v ] | Sep 20 06:13 |
| iophk | There won't ever be a real version for Android. | Sep 20 06:13 |
| iophk | First, they don't have the skill. | Sep 20 06:13 |
| iophk | Second, they're trying to trick users into letting their data be hostage in "the cloud" | Sep 20 06:13 |
| iophk | "Bob Muglia, the former Microsoft executive" | Sep 20 06:23 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/juniper-throws-its-hat-into-the-open-source-sdn-ring-7000020909/ | Sep 20 06:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Juniper throws its hat into the open-source SDN ring | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/fmi53 ] | Sep 20 06:23 |
| iophk | "former" | Sep 20 06:23 |
| iophk | https://www.gnu.org/gnu30/ | Sep 20 07:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gnu.org | GNU 30th anniversary - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation | Sep 20 07:00 |
| iophk | next Friday | Sep 20 07:00 |
| iophk | https://groups.google.com/d/msg/net.unix-wizards/8twfRPM79u0/1xlglzrWrU0J | Sep 20 07:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | groups.google.com | Grupos de Google [ http://ur1.ca/few22 ] | Sep 20 07:00 |
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| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3087327 | Sep 20 07:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android HDMI-stick mini-PC includes Ethernet port http://linuxgizmos.com/android-hdmi-stick-mini-pc-includes-ethernet/ #linux #android | Sep 20 07:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> linuxgizmos.com | Android HDMI-stick mini-PC includes Ethernet port LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/fmizm ] | Sep 20 07:14 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Why cable...?" | Sep 20 07:14 |
| schestowitz_mob | bandwidth, radiation, etc. I still prefer wired where possible... | Sep 20 07:15 |
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| schestowitz_mob | Still catching up with news, hard to keep a decent posting pace this month | Sep 20 07:21 |
| iophk | Posts are great when you can do them but keeping a sustainable pace. | Sep 20 07:21 |
| iophk | http://www.april.org/en/celebrating-30-years-gnu-paris-8-university-september-21-2013 | Sep 20 07:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.april.org | Celebrating 30 years of GNU, at Paris 8 University, on September 21, 2013 | April [ http://ur1.ca/fmj6o ] | Sep 20 07:28 |
| schestowitz_mob | still waiting for RMS' answers | Sep 20 07:28 |
| schestowitz_mob | I could do some [psy | Sep 20 07:28 |
| schestowitz_mob | posts today, I guess | Sep 20 07:28 |
| iophk | I expect that he will be increasingly busy leading up to next weekend. | Sep 20 07:29 |
| schestowitz_mob | yes, he told me | Sep 20 07:35 |
| schestowitz_mob | anyway, this weekend I'm more free | Sep 20 07:35 |
| schestowitz_mob | back to work Monday night | Sep 20 07:35 |
| schestowitz_mob | And we haven't made plans for this weekend, it's cloudy | Sep 20 07:35 |
| iophk | As long at it's not windy or raining, cloudy is ok | Sep 20 07:41 |
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| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3087340 | Sep 20 07:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Did Apple copy Android in iOS 7? http://www.itworld.com/open-source/373903/did-apple-copy-android-ios-7 #apple still, as always, tries to imitate market leaders | Sep 20 07:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.itworld.com | Did Apple copy Android in iOS 7? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fmjjs ] | Sep 20 07:51 |
| schestowitz_mob | "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3087340" | Sep 20 07:52 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Didn't you just post something about Pear imitating iOS?" | Sep 20 07:52 |
| schestowitz_mob | iMITATION CYCLES - the think Apple loves to deny, pretending everyone copies Apple (esp. Android) while its CEO admitted that it was always shameless about "stealing" great ideas. | Sep 20 07:53 |
| iophk | steal with pride | Sep 20 07:54 |
| iophk | "We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." . | Sep 20 07:54 |
| schestowitz_mob | *IMITATION CYCLES - the thing Apple loves to deny | Sep 20 07:55 |
| schestowitz_mob | and its boosters too | Sep 20 07:55 |
| iophk | Good artists copy, Great artists steal | Sep 20 07:55 |
| schestowitz_mob | pretending Apple is some kind of trailblazer | Sep 20 07:55 |
| iophk | compared to M$, it is. Sadly | Sep 20 07:56 |
| schestowitz_mob | using the latest chips and microchips from Asian companies in Korea, Taipei/Taiwan, and Japan | Sep 20 07:56 |
| iophk | IBM is putting another $1 billion into Linux | Sep 20 07:56 |
| iophk | this time on PowerPC mostly | Sep 20 07:56 |
| iophk | too bad Apple dropped PPC | Sep 20 07:56 |
| iophk | The previous $1 billion investment brought a lot of activity | Sep 20 07:58 |
| iophk | It will be interesting 2 3 years out to see what happened as the result of this one. | Sep 20 07:58 |
| schestowitz_mob | markleting hype | Sep 20 08:02 |
| schestowitz_mob | it's lile the R&D catchphrases | Sep 20 08:02 |
| schestowitz_mob | *like\ | Sep 20 08:02 |
| schestowitz_mob | I am going to do an article about this IBM thing | Sep 20 08:02 |
| schestowitz_mob | inc. OIN | Sep 20 08:02 |
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| iophk | Even if the IBM news is marketeering, something good can come out of it if it advances PPC marketshare, especially in servers. I was hoping that Oracle would take a similar role when it acquired SPARC, but they seem to have teamed up with their frenemy M$ and put an end to that advantage. | Sep 20 10:05 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3087340 | Sep 20 12:43 |
| schestowitz | "I haven't seen Apple denying that they copy others, certainly Android has copied Apple (look at Android pre-iPhone). I think competition has a way of focusing on the winning ideas. My point is that you seem to want it both ways: it's bad for Apple to copy Android, but somehow it's good for Pear to copy Apple. Good artists copy; great artists steal. Pablo Picasso" | Sep 20 12:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3087778 | Sep 20 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Gabe Newell (Formerly Microsoft, Now Valves Head) and Intel Declare GNU/Linux Desktop Victorious http://techrights.org/2013/09/20/intel-valve-on-gnu-linux-desktop/ #gnu #linux | Sep 20 12:43 |
| schestowitz | "Most of us have known this for years." | Sep 20 12:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Gabe Newell (Formerly Microsoft, Now Valves Head) and Intel Declare GNU/Linux Desktop Victorious | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fmp1h ] | Sep 20 12:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3088002 | Sep 20 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Net Neutrality is Under Attack in the US (Verizon Strikes Again), Neelie Kroes Helps Abolish Net Neutrality in EU http://techrights.org/2013/09/20/net-neutrality-under-attack/ | Sep 20 12:44 |
| schestowitz | "Glad I am not on their service anymore" | Sep 20 12:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Net Neutrality is Under Attack in the US (Verizon Strikes Again), Neelie Kroes Helps Abolish Net Neutrality in Europe | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fmp1u ] | Sep 20 12:44 |
| MinceR | "I haven't seen Apple denying that they copy others," -- yeah, it's not like they went "thermonuclear" on anyone or anything, ever... | Sep 20 12:53 |
| MinceR | crApple cultists lie like politicians | Sep 20 12:54 |
| iophk | http://gizmodo.com/5872483/this-new-steve-jobs-action-figure-is-so-good-its-freaky/ | Sep 20 13:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gizmodo.com | New Steve Jobs Action Figure Is So Good It's Freaky [ http://ur1.ca/fmpfx ] | Sep 20 13:04 |
| schestowitz_mob | http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/what-are-we-going-do-what-we-can-do | Sep 20 13:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ec.europa.eu | What are we going to do, with what we can do? - European Commission [ http://ur1.ca/fmpgc ] | Sep 20 13:05 |
| MinceR | if it's good then it isn't accurate :> | Sep 20 13:05 |
| iophk | schestowitz_mob: did I read that right in that she calls people "civilians" ? | Sep 20 13:06 |
| schestowitz_mob | iophk, who buys this stuff? | Sep 20 13:07 |
| iophk | don't you have any? :: | Sep 20 13:07 |
| schestowitz_mob | I'm not sure she writes this | Sep 20 13:07 |
| schestowitz_mob | She runs the brand | Sep 20 13:07 |
| schestowitz_mob | Kroes brand | Sep 20 13:07 |
| schestowitz_mob | But others write her speech and blog | Sep 20 13:08 |
| iophk | Well that misuse of the word belies an attitude that just screams for dismissal from the job. | Sep 20 13:08 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/381102709539352576 | Sep 20 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Neelie Kroes calls us people "civilians" http://t.co/q2zlLs0FhS | Sep 20 13:09 |
| iophk | It's really damn offensive. Speech writer or not, there is no excuse. | Sep 20 13:14 |
| iophk | It's especially nasty if it is a true indication of how she is thinking. | Sep 20 13:16 |
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| flatr0ze | Hello. A QQ: what's the text of the Cat Public License? I cannot seem to find it anywhere... | Sep 20 13:25 |
| iophk | flatr0ze, where are you seeing the license used? | Sep 20 13:26 |
| flatr0ze | in my future project | Sep 20 13:26 |
| flatr0ze | I want to have a catpl license there... it's like beerware, but you have to stroke your cat | Sep 20 13:26 |
| flatr0ze | I thought about using WTFPL | Sep 20 13:26 |
| flatr0ze | but CatPL will be much much better | Sep 20 13:27 |
| flatr0ze | and it's a very rare license, I cannot seem to find the text for it | Sep 20 13:27 |
| iophk | I've seen quite few unusual license but not a cat public license of any kind | Sep 20 13:28 |
| iophk | You'll probably just have to reconstruct it from memory. | Sep 20 13:29 |
| flatr0ze | :( | Sep 20 13:30 |
| flatr0ze | I'll better stick with WTFPL then, otherwise will end up writing a license instead of a program | Sep 20 13:31 |
| iophk | http://yle.fi/uutiset/elop_enjoyed_preferential_tax_status_in_finland/6842147 | Sep 20 13:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | yle.fi | Elop enjoyed preferential tax status in Finland | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/fmq23 ] | Sep 20 13:32 |
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| iophk | schestowitz_mob: it was the guest blogger Puttnam who had written that for her | Sep 20 13:42 |
| iophk | what business does he have with Kroes? | Sep 20 13:42 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/381113874550124545 | Sep 20 13:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Obama should receive a No Peace Prize, Bell won't mind... | Sep 20 13:57 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/381114294676783104 | Sep 20 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fracking advocacy in New York Times http://t.co/Bvug9y2vtm | Sep 20 13:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.fair.org | Is Oil Industry Funding of a Fracking Study a Problem? Let's Ask an Oil-Funded Expert | Sep 20 13:58 |
| schestowitz_mob | iophk, not sure who that is | Sep 20 14:00 |
| schestowitz_mob | there's ryan. claire, and that bhur guy or something | Sep 20 14:00 |
| schestowitz_mob | she has a team of younger people working under her Brand | Sep 20 14:00 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/381115396147142656 | Sep 20 14:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Mole gets tax advantage in Finland while destroying Finnish economy http://t.co/xkefy79FZ3 #elop #microsoft | Sep 20 14:18 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3088768 | Sep 20 14:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: They couldn't sell a war on one of Iraq's (US colony) neighbour, now they try another https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_1718b8bbe60cb249f5d5.jpg arsenal full, must unload | Sep 20 14:38 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Warmongers: Can't expend the arsenal on Syria? Attack Iran instead. Sen. Lindsey Graham to seek authorization for U.S. attack on Iran Sen. Lindsey Graham is one of the strongest advocates of an American military strike against the Assad regime in Syria. He was unhappy when President Obama decided to seek congressional authorization for an attack, and then unhappy when his fellow lawmakers voiced disapproval of the | Sep 20 14:38 |
| schestowitz_mob | president's plan. Graham believes the diplomatic path chosen by the administration will lead to a debacle. Of course attacking Iran would not lead to a debacle... {/sarc}" | Sep 20 14:38 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/381121227882242048 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/381123658049404928 | Sep 20 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "When did the role of the National Security agency change from keeping USA safe to sabotaging the worlds IT?" http://t.co/sCWtCJ9f9X | Sep 20 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> mrpogson.com | NSA: GNU/Linux TOO SECURE | Robert Pogson | Sep 20 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Cassandra 2.0: The next generation of big data http://t.co/WJ2zLrkJld big data loved by spies and PR people, too | Sep 20 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Cassandra 2.0: The next generation of big data | ZDNet | Sep 20 14:42 |
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| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3088768 | Sep 20 16:31 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Graham believes the diplomatic path chosen by the administration will lead to a debacle Graham always had a one-solution approach: Everyone who does not agree with his demands needs to be punished. This guy has a delusional Napoleon complex in that he proposed that the most fair court in the US is a military trial ... maybe he should taste some of his own desires. Small minds for small people!" | Sep 20 16:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz_mob: did you ever explain about opensource/freesoftware to your wife? | Sep 20 16:39 |
| sebsebseb | or try too ? | Sep 20 16:39 |
| sebsebseb | oh ThistleWeb is in here | Sep 20 16:39 |
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| MinceR | gn | Sep 20 18:55 |
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| DaemonFC | https://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/4051135032.html | Sep 21 01:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fortwayne.craigslist.org | clean 1994 mercury grand marquis ls [ http://ur1.ca/fn1mq ] | Sep 21 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Sep 21 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | Pimpmobile | Sep 21 01:04 |
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| DaemonFC | https://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/4058847816.html | Sep 21 01:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fortwayne.craigslist.org | 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Clean Car [ http://ur1.ca/fn1rj ] | Sep 21 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | That's not bad. | Sep 21 01:14 |
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