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schestowitz_bed 04 17:49
schestowitz_bed""Oct 04 17:49
schestowitz_bed"Sounds like the installer isn't free software - if you cant use it without being bound by requirements to video the process, and must use it on only a few permitted devices, then freedom #1 is not provided."Oct 04 17:49
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schestowitz_bed 04 17:52
MinceRsounds like some beta testing-specific restrictionOct 04 18:35
MinceRi'd wait and see how the release is licensedOct 04 18:36
schestowitz_bed 04 19:08
schestowitz_bed"Has Microsoft given up trying to fool them?"Oct 04 19:08
schestowitz_bedMinceR: maybeOct 04 19:08
schestowitz_bedbut I don't view them as pro-freedom, just  pro-choiceOct 04 19:09
schestowitz_bedThey're not ReplicantOct 04 19:09
schestowitz_bedReplicant is the one FSF is backingOct 04 19:09
schestowitz_bedCM is not a good ethial company anymore, this is from one of the use-to-be-cm-developers: ""Oct 04 19:09
schestowitz_bed 04 19:09
schestowitz_bed"Oct 04 19:10
schestowitz_bedI remained silent about the whole Focal relicensing troubles for now. There was a lot of drama between the app being GPL, and the fact Cyanogen Inc wanted to use it, which drove some frustration between me, some CM contributors, and CM leaders. As a result, to avoid any problem, Focal has been removed from CyanogenMod. I think you deserve explanations and “behind the scenes” view on how all of this happened, and to know itâ€Oct 04 19:10
schestowitz_beds not just a last-minute decision or ragequit.Oct 04 19:10
schestowitz_bedThis is the true, fully-featured story of the “Focal drama”. It's not a rant about how Cyanogen Inc is bad or anything (and it can be a good thing, with a few conditions, see at the end of the post), but just an insight on how this all happened, and how some people were and are feeling. Oct 04 19:10
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schestowitz_bed 04 19:18
schestowitz_bed"I don't se m smartphone. I don't like keyhole computing :) A gsm phone, a digital camera and a netbook are fine if I'm travelling. Just the gsm for moving around town. Plus a moleskin diary and a book :)'Oct 04 19:18
MinceRbut is it made of genuine mole skin?Oct 04 19:22
MinceRi see, i've read the Focal post to the relicensing partOct 04 19:27
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schestowitz_bed 04 20:13
schestowitz_bed"By perusing the paleo-anthropolgy literature one finds that we had ethics before we had sophisticated culture, maybe even before we had complex language. It's built into what we are; a weak, tailless, fangless, clawless mammal that has to cooperate to survive in nature."Oct 04 20:13
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