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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3137575 | Oct 13 07:38 |
| TechBytesBot | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Alpha 3 is out! http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/mageia-4-alpha-3-is-out.html "brings KDE 4.11.1, Gnome 3.10.0 and now Mate is found inside the repositories." | Oct 13 07:38 |
| TechBytesBot | -> mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Mageia 4 Alpha 3 is out! [ http://ur1.ca/fvop7 ] | Oct 13 07:38 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy,> | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > From #techrights on Freenode today | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > (12:27:23 PM) oiaohm: Remember MS makes more income | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > from android patent licenses than from Windows Phone sales. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > That reminds me of an idea one of my least technical friends put forth | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the other day. He proposed that someone get together and pull the shell | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > company game on M$ to get these extortion patents out in the open. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Basically some one or some group should set up a shell company to make | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Android phones, then when M$ comes to extort patent "protection" they | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > just publish a list of all the patents that M$ is requesting payment | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > for. If M$ fights, they just fold and go away, being only a shell | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > company. That would get the list out in the open so they could be taken | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > down. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | B&N already put out the list of patents. Many sites inc. Groklaw covered them. There was also a formal complaint. Microsoft then bribed B&N for it to dtop actions. Lots of that in TR. About half a dozen posts. | Oct 13 22:45 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | >> B&N already put out the list of patents. Many sites inc. Groklaw | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> covered them. There was also a formal complaint. Microsoft then bribed | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> B&N for it to dtop actions. Lots of that in TR. About half a dozen posts. | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I should have remembered that. There is getting to be too much to | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > follow. B&N was looking like a good hope for a while before suddenly | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > dropping action. | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > PS. The old encryption problem is back. Your reply was unecrypted but | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > signed. The original message was encrypted but unsigned. | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This was not an error but intentional, due to laziness. Now should be better... | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Been building furniture and stuff over the weekend, can try to post lots of stuff this afternoon... | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Been building furniture and stuff over the weekend, can try to post lots | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> of stuff this afternoon... | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Yeah I should ask how things have been. I notice that you've been quite | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > busy with other things lately. | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > We had snow flurries this morning and the ice in the yard hasn't melted | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the last few days. I should hurry and turn the compost before it gets | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > frozen. | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I've spent some of the last few days with Ubuntu testing verifying that | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the Lubuntu ISOs work as needed for PPC and AMD64+mac. | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | All the links I get from you usually go into the text file for daily links (now part of pro-Linux posts or other issues) and the rest go into novell.txt, which is an out-of-date name for stuff that turns into key posts. I still have some posts in the pipeline, just been busy helping the wife set up her own business, sorting stuff out around the house, sleeping more, going on trips before winter arrives, etc. This winter will be | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | more productive and I hope to have caught up with most/all news by xmas (my RSS feeds in inbox form are growing for months). | Oct 14 13:01 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I'm stumped for real-life examples of piping data from one machine to | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > another. e.g. | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > /bin/foo | ssh server.example.org /bin/bar | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > or | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > ssh server.example.org /bin/foo | /bin/bar | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I know I've done it in the distant past but can't recall anything. tar | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > doesn't count. | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Do you happen to have an example handy that I could use? | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I have never piped using ssh, just tar. | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Search Products now implemented in http://schestowitz.com/tr/ | Oct 14 19:37 |
| TechBytesBot | schestowitz.com | Trends Right » Fashion for All | Oct 14 19:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172719 | Oct 14 20:36 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: First Look at GNOME 3.10 on Arch Linux http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Look-at-GNOME-3-10-on-Arch-Linux-389114.shtml #gnome #gnu #linux #archlinux | Oct 14 20:36 |
| TechBytesBot | -> news.softpedia.com | First Look at GNOME 3.10 on Arch Linux [ http://ur1.ca/fw2cp ] | Oct 14 20:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This is one really big reason why I have been thinking of switching to Arch Linux. They seem to have the latest Gnome up and running the quickest out of all the distros. I am still using 3.4 on Debian stable.?"77" | Oct 14 20:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172740 | Oct 14 20:37 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world needs some good leaks from the SCOTUS and DOJ. Any whistleblowers to come forth? | Oct 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I don't think you understand how SCOTUS actually works. And DOJ already leaks like a sieve." | Oct 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "We don't need more leaks. We need people to stop paying for this shit. #Agorism #CounterEconomics " | Oct 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172738 | Oct 14 20:37 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only "Supreme" thing about the SCOTUS is that it protects the Supreme (multinational mega-corporations) from the majority. | Oct 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "SCOTUS Funny name: bestial attitude." | Oct 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I don't think that that's remotely accurate. While I certainly don't agree with some SCOTUS decisions (Citizens United based on philosophy, Dred Scott on the basis of morality), I don't think that they as a body have a pro-business agenda." | Oct 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | In many areas, such as various patents and copyrights, SCOTUS is pro-Big Business http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SCOTUS | Oct 14 20:39 |
| TechBytesBot | techrights.org | SCOTUS - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/bpuzg ] | Oct 14 20:39 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174562 | Oct 15 07:54 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #bombing for #peace | Oct 15 07:54 |
| TechBytesBot | Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_30f901d90565de7e6735.jpg | Oct 15 07:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "That's an old one...." | Oct 15 07:54 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Copyleft uses copyright law, so FS likes copyright, whereas patents are | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> antithetical to it. Hence, to say anything about "IP" in relation to FS | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> is like saying "stuff" about "something". | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Yes. But he wasn't the only one there making that mistake. Jon | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > "Maddog" Hall in his talk was doing similar and even misrepresenting | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > RMS' position. | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Is Hall closer to Linus' position, being part of "Linux International" and godfather of Linus' daughter? Judging by appeareance, you'd expect him to be on RMS' side. | Oct 16 00:06 |
| MinceR | FS? | Oct 16 00:09 |
| MinceR | not all free software is copyleft | Oct 16 00:10 |
| MinceR | and copyright could be reformed in a way that keeps copyleft | Oct 16 00:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> This guy's talk wasn't the most organized, the last 5 or 6 minutes cover | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> his main point. He builds up to why he now promotes the BSD license | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> over the GPL. | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> https://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/24-Rob_Landley-The_Rise_and_Fall_of_Copyleft.ogg | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> http://www.ohiolinux.org/talks#COPYLEFT | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> His classification of "universal receiver" vs "universal donor" was an | Oct 16 09:15 |
| TechBytesBot | ( status 404 @ http://www.ohiolinux.org/talks#COPYLEFT ) | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> interesting way of putting things. I share some of the misgivings of | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> having a copyright license that dabbles in patents, and having 2 | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> versions of the GPL, but haven't given up on them yet. It was a bit | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> annoying that he kept saying "intellectual property" even though he has | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> enough experience to know better. | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> Copyleft uses copyright law, so FS likes copyright, whereas patents are | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> antithetical to it. Hence, to say anything about "IP" in relation to FS | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> is like saying "stuff" about "something". | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> Yes. But he wasn't the only one there making that mistake. Jon | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> "Maddog" Hall in his talk was doing similar and even misrepresenting | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> RMS' position. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Is Hall closer to Linus' position, being part of "Linux International" | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> and godfather of Linus' daughter? Judging by appeareance, you'd expect | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> him to be on RMS' side. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > It's hard to say. It's been years and years since I've read anything | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > from him and I've only heard him give the one talk. He does start out | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > praising GNU but then at about 14:30 -15:45 he goes into a | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > misrepresentation of RMS. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > https://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/19-Jon_maddog_Hall-GNU_Linux_Around_the_World.ogg | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I think that's where RMS has the most trouble. He's not attacked for | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > what he says or even for his position. He's attacked for what some | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > people think they heard someone else say about what yet another person | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > said about him. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > On the Landley talk*, Landley brought up the Franklin v Apple case as | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the cause of the rise of proprietary software. Apple won on appeal. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2007/aug/06/applevfranklin | Oct 16 09:16 |
| TechBytesBot | www.theguardian.com | Apple Computer v Franklin Computer (1983) | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwdci ] | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://copyright.laws.com/famous-cases/apple-computer-inc-v-franklin-computer-corp | Oct 16 09:16 |
| TechBytesBot | copyright.laws.com | Apple Computer Inc V Franklin Computer Corp [ http://ur1.ca/fwdck ] | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Indeed it *might* be possible to trace the problem back to that case. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Both Mad dog and RMS mention the years immediately following the case as | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the start of the problems caused by proprietary software, even if I've | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > never heard them mention the case. Bill did not make any headway with | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > his 1973 rant against hobbyists but the Franklin case gave companies the | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > leverage they could use to go binary-only. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > An interesting thing that Landley proposed was that the BSD-license | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > strategy was simply to out wait proprietary software, expecting it to go | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > away over time as the result of being inefficient and not maintainable | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > in the long run. I think that we've seen proprietary software diminish | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > somewhat, but for now that has been due to the GPLv2 IMHO. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > * It was interesting but not focused enough to recommend. | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174747 | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why do so many Chinese bitcoiners use Linux? http://www.coindesk.com/why-do-so-many-chinese-bitcoiners-use-linux/ #china #gnu #linux | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | btw, fyi: RMS on Bitcoin: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ofe9o/stallmanweneedanonymouspaymentsanonymousfor/ "77" | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.coindesk.com | Why do so many Chinese bitcoiners use Linux? - CoinDesk [ http://ur1.ca/fwdcn ] | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3175148 | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | www.reddit.com | Stallman: "We need anonymous payments — anonymous for the payer, that is. (We don’t want the payee to dodge taxes.) Bitcoin is not anonymous" : Bitcoin [ http://ur1.ca/fwdco ] | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CE http://i.imgur.com/ZwOavE7.jpg | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "convergence" | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Safe tto assume that for small items no factories remain in NATO nations. | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Some news leads, I've not been able to find followup material elsewhere. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 1) If they went after those responsible for creating and spreading | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Windows and Microsoft products, it might ok. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Natojurister: Okej att döda hackare : | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Efter tre års arbete har en grupp jurister på uppdrag | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > av Nato presenterat en rapport kring hur man ska | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > förhålla sig till cyberattacker. En del av slutsatserna | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > är ganska kontroversiella. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > NATO lawyers: OK to kill hackers | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > After three years of work a group of lawyers commissioned | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > by NATO have presented a report on how to | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > conduct oneself in regards to cyberattackers. A portion | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > of the conclusions are rather controversial. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.498535 | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Natojurister: Okej att döda hackare - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjw8 ] | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 2) | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Försvarsmakten vill kunna genomföra it-attacker | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Det svenska försvaret behöver förmågan att genomföra | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > offensiva it-angrepp. Det skriver Försvarsmakten i en | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > rapport till regeringen. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > The defense forces want to be able to carry out IT attacks | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > The Swedish defenses need the capability to carry out | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > offensive IT attacks. So writes the Defense forces in | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > a report to the government. | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.527858/forsvarsmakten-vill-kunna-genomfora-it-attacker | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Försvarsmakten vill kunna genomföra it-attacker - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjwb ] | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 3) Bush-style fingerprinting seems to be coming to Europe. (Swedish | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > police are really eager for such things and have on other occasions even | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > been calling for a DNA database.) | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > "Alla EU-länder kommer från oktober 2014 att omfattas | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > av det här kravet. Alla som söker visum till | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Schengenländer kommer att få lämna ifrån sig sina | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > fingeravtryck, och sedan kontrollerar vi dem vid | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > gränsen" | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > All EU countries will from Oct 2014 be covered | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > by this requirement. Everyone who applies for a | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > visa to Schengen countries will be required to | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > give their fingerprints, and then we will check them | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > at the border. | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.527335/svensk-polis-ska-ta-fingeravtryck-vid-gransen | Oct 17 09:14 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Svensk polis ska ta fingeravtryck vid gränsen - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjwg ] | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 4) | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > A) pushing "MS Open Tech" company | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > B) M$ Daniel Akenine claims to support royalty-free, | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > open standards | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > C) Same claims that M$ is putting a high priority on | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > interoperability with other products | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > D) M$ is claiming "full" ODF support for MS Office 2013, | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > and trying to use that as a lever to force upgrades. | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > No mention of using LibreOffice instead is mentioned. | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.528256/hur-oppet-ar-microsoft | Oct 17 09:14 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Hur öppet är Microsoft? - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjwj ] | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178782 | Oct 17 09:46 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: News Flash: Oracle Still Hates Open Source Software http://readwrite.com/2013/10/15/oracle-opens-both-barrels-on-open-source-software-in-military-whitepaper http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/oracle_says_open_source_has_no_place_in_military_apps/ #scoracle | Oct 17 09:46 |
| TechBytesBot | -> readwrite.com | News Flash: Oracle Still Hates Open Source Software – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/fwk1x ] | Oct 17 09:46 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle says open source has no place in military apps • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6ab ] | Oct 17 09:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "... and Larry Ellison still puts shoe polish on his beard ..." | Oct 17 09:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Re: Watch "TTA Podcast 131: The Richard Dawkins Interview" on YouTube | Oct 17 22:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I don't know if you got listen to Seth 's excellent interview yet, it | Oct 17 22:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > was great. | Oct 17 22:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJIgvfTPaM&feature=youtube_gdata_player | Oct 17 22:16 |
| TechBytesBot | www.youtube.com | TTA Podcast 131: The Richard Dawkins Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwmwy ] | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will listen to it this Sunday while the wife is out (at Church). I can't quite listen to this stuff when she's around, it would potentially offend her... | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183656 | Oct 18 08:20 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 18 08:20 |
| TechBytesBot | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 18 08:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I hate this OS" | Oct 18 08:20 |
| MinceR | answering the headline: none | Oct 18 09:02 |
| MinceR | (except for some extra uefi crap) | Oct 18 09:02 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi Roy, | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Thanks for the quick response. I can't guarantee publication, but in my | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > experience we have never solicited input for these and not published. | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Let me know what you think and either way, thanks again for the response. | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Siobhan | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Thanks Roy - you raise good points - do you have a brief (2-3 line) bio | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > and photograph that we can include in the post? | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I'm waiting for a couple more responses but am hoping to get this out | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > mid-week next week. I'll be sure to drop a line when it's live. | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This is my more recent bio: "I am a Software Engineer, interdisciplinary researcher, and an advocate of fair competition. I hold a doctoral degree in Medical Biophysics. In the hours of daytime I work for a company where I look after free/libre software and I also perform novel research for one of the world's top computer science departments." | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Photo attached. | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3185724 | Oct 19 01:50 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Truecrypt Cannot be Audited Because It’s Proprietary Software http://techrights.org/2013/10/18/truecrypt/ #Truecrypt | Oct 19 01:50 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | Truecrypt Cannot be Audited Because It’s Proprietary Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwqj1 ] | Oct 19 01:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'The issue is that although TrueCrypt is open source, the binaries you can download from the website don't match the binaries you get if you build the code yourself. There's no good way to know what the differences are, and the developers aren't saying what they are or how they built it. The source code for TrueCrypt has been analyzed and is deemed secure.." | Oct 19 01:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "A discrepancy in binaries does not seem particularly surprising. They are likely built with different libraries with a different version of the compiler. But the bottom line remains the same: whenever you accept binaries from anybody, you are trusting that person/organization.' | Oct 19 01:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.happyassassin.net/2008/08/06/open-letter-to-the-developers-of-truecrypt/ | Oct 19 01:52 |
| TechBytesBot | www.happyassassin.net | AdamW on Linux and more » Blog Archive » Open letter to the developers of TrueCrypt [ http://ur1.ca/fwrm3 ] | Oct 19 01:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Ick. That by itself is more damning than the question about the binaries." | Oct 19 02:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3186870 | Oct 19 03:44 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: IBM Does Not Deserve That Much Credit for Power Systems Agenda http://techrights.org/2013/10/18/ibm-and-power/ #ibm #server #gnu #linux | Oct 19 03:44 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | IBM Does Not Deserve That Much Credit for Power Systems Agenda | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwruk ] | Oct 19 03:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Hard to believe they essentially abandoned AIX. That was a great OS in a lot of ways. Wish they'd open some of it up since Linux basically crushed it." | Oct 19 03:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | IBM refused to open OS/2 even after they had nothing to lose, so i guess the motivations are similar. | Oct 19 03:45 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_minutes_of_fame | Oct 19 06:11 |
| TechBytesBot | en.wikipedia.org | 15 minutes of fame - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fws9j ] | Oct 19 06:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "15 minutes of fame is short-lived media publicity or celebrity of an individual or phenomenon. The expression was coined by Andy Warhol, who said in 1968 that "In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes." The phenomenon is often used in reference to figures in the entertainment industry or other areas of popular culture, such as reality television and YouTube. It is believed that the statement was an adaptation of | Oct 19 06:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | a theory of Marshall McLuhan, explaining the differences of media, where TV differs much from other media using contestants. A similar saying used in the UK is "nine day wonder"." | Oct 19 06:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The British artist Banksy has made a sculpture of a TV that has, written on its screen, "In the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes."" | Oct 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | LOL | Oct 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy | Oct 19 06:13 |
| TechBytesBot | en.wikipedia.org | Banksy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 19 06:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Banksy is a pseudonymous United Kingdom-based graffiti artist, political activist, film director, and painter." | Oct 19 06:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Known for his contempt for the government in labelling graffiti as vandalism, Banksy displays his art on publicly visible surfaces such as walls, even going as far as to build physical prop pieces. Banksy does not sell photos of street graffiti directly himself; however, art auctioneers have been known to attempt to sell his street art on location and leave the problem of its removal in the hands of the winning bidder" | Oct 19 06:14 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Awesome set of posts yesterday. Unfortunately, the site's UI can't | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > handle it. They've run off the end of the stack in both the RSS feed | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > and the storied feed: | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://techrights.org/?stories | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://techrights.org/feed/ | Oct 19 10:36 |
| TechBytesBot | techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Maybe it's time to switch CMS, leave the old posts on the old CMS but | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > put the new ones on a news CMS. Do you think Drupal would be up to the | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > task? | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I thought about it because we're getting new Drupal clients and my employer wants us to get better at Drupal. Wouldn't consistency wrt search etc. be an issue? | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Given my more limited time as of late, I rethought my posting methods, format, tweeting, material collection methods, IRC logs, etc. Please provide suggestions, I am very open to cnanges... I can still put around 50 hours per week into techrights. If we don't change habits, we'll all become passe; D* is big at the moment as a community, but I don't think a techrights pod would gain enough momentum. identi.ca is pretty much dead and | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | last night I spent 10 mins looking at tuxmachines.org logs from the past 6 years, seeing how the site keeps dying every year since 2008 (rapid decline)... I recently donated to motivate Susan to keep it going. Groklaw is gone, Phoronix survives for now, LXer has no original content, and Linux Today is kind of in maintenance mode. Not sure where gaps and opportunities are -- or rather -- what Linux users are truly after. Microsoft | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | is quickly moving off the front pages and the NSA news are not being taken for granted. First time of many exciting political news since late 2010 (cablegate/wikileaks) but nothing too exciting now on the horizon, just lots of Android, taken for granted by now and resistant to FUD. Patents are a boring thing that's just about patent trolls now. | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sorry for the senseless quick tryping. I just need ideas, I think out aloud. We do need some changes; decision on how the hours will be spent can determine the future direction of the site and community. | Oct 19 10:36 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz_bed2: there are interesting things going on. | Oct 19 12:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz_bed2: Microsoft is really attempting to killself. | Oct 19 12:45 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > I think that the current software is hurting the presence of the site. | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > It's too hard to navigate back through old posts and so on. I haven't | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > used Drupal since shortly after it came out and, thank goodness, haven't | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > had to touch PHP since 2003. However, it has come a long way in that | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > time and if you are also using Drupal at work you can reduce some of the | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > overhead by eliminating the extra system, or at least sidelining it. | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I thought about it for an hour today. Still undecided. Need good themes... | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> D* is big at the moment as a community, but I don't think a | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> techrights pod would gain enough momentum. | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I can never get D* to work in my browsers. Overall, the microblogging | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > seems a waste of time unless the output can be automated from a feed. | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Then it is just other people wasting their time. | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Microblogging doesn't take long; it's full articles that do. They require proofreading and outlining sometimes. | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > There is some change. I know of two M$ monkeys that have gone through | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > re-training. Actually one is in the process of retraining. Both on RPM | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > distros RHEL/CentOS. That's only a data set of 2 but they are in | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > different states and previously had never considered non-M$ products. | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Now they see Linux as a career progression. | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cool! | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Microsoft is quickly moving off the front pages and the NSA news are | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> not being taken for granted. | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > As I keep writing, the rents are what keep funding the marketing | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > companies that M$ hires. Once the monopolies on OEMs and on | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > productivity software file formats go away, the rents go and it will | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > suddenly get relatively quiet except for religious types like Icahn and | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > unfunded boosters and co. | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > The US administration and M$ are trying to make the discussion about | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > trolls but the main cause is the software patents themselves. Lessig's | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > approach is right, go upstream. I think Bruce Perens made that move a | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > long time ago. Neither have the money to outbid M$ lobbyists, but face | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > time helps almost as much. | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Maybe Techrights should cover some non-tech aspects? If so, what CMS? And any good themes? If not, it might just complicate the site and make it harder to maintain. | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/DavidKerby/status/391514995864772608 | Oct 19 16:20 |
| TechBytesBot | @DavidKerby: @schestowitz It was many months ago, so I am not surprised that you lack context. This is about electromagnetic mind control experiments. | Oct 19 16:20 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "Sweet.\" | Oct 13 07:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3137575 | Oct 13 07:38 |
| TechBytesBot | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Mageia 4 Alpha 3 is out! http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/mageia-4-alpha-3-is-out.html "brings KDE 4.11.1, Gnome 3.10.0 and now Mate is found inside the repositories." | Oct 13 07:38 |
| TechBytesBot | -> mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Mageia 4 Alpha 3 is out! [ http://ur1.ca/fvop7 ] | Oct 13 07:38 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy,> | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > From #techrights on Freenode today | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > (12:27:23 PM) oiaohm: Remember MS makes more income | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > from android patent licenses than from Windows Phone sales. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > That reminds me of an idea one of my least technical friends put forth | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the other day. He proposed that someone get together and pull the shell | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > company game on M$ to get these extortion patents out in the open. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Basically some one or some group should set up a shell company to make | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Android phones, then when M$ comes to extort patent "protection" they | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > just publish a list of all the patents that M$ is requesting payment | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > for. If M$ fights, they just fold and go away, being only a shell | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > company. That would get the list out in the open so they could be taken | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > down. | Oct 13 22:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | B&N already put out the list of patents. Many sites inc. Groklaw covered them. There was also a formal complaint. Microsoft then bribed B&N for it to dtop actions. Lots of that in TR. About half a dozen posts. | Oct 13 22:45 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | >> B&N already put out the list of patents. Many sites inc. Groklaw | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> covered them. There was also a formal complaint. Microsoft then bribed | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> B&N for it to dtop actions. Lots of that in TR. About half a dozen posts. | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I should have remembered that. There is getting to be too much to | Oct 14 12:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > follow. B&N was looking like a good hope for a while before suddenly | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > dropping action. | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > PS. The old encryption problem is back. Your reply was unecrypted but | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > signed. The original message was encrypted but unsigned. | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This was not an error but intentional, due to laziness. Now should be better... | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Been building furniture and stuff over the weekend, can try to post lots of stuff this afternoon... | Oct 14 12:34 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Been building furniture and stuff over the weekend, can try to post lots | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> of stuff this afternoon... | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Yeah I should ask how things have been. I notice that you've been quite | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > busy with other things lately. | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > We had snow flurries this morning and the ice in the yard hasn't melted | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the last few days. I should hurry and turn the compost before it gets | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > frozen. | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I've spent some of the last few days with Ubuntu testing verifying that | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the Lubuntu ISOs work as needed for PPC and AMD64+mac. | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | All the links I get from you usually go into the text file for daily links (now part of pro-Linux posts or other issues) and the rest go into novell.txt, which is an out-of-date name for stuff that turns into key posts. I still have some posts in the pipeline, just been busy helping the wife set up her own business, sorting stuff out around the house, sleeping more, going on trips before winter arrives, etc. This winter will be | Oct 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | more productive and I hope to have caught up with most/all news by xmas (my RSS feeds in inbox form are growing for months). | Oct 14 13:01 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I'm stumped for real-life examples of piping data from one machine to | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > another. e.g. | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > /bin/foo | ssh server.example.org /bin/bar | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > or | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > ssh server.example.org /bin/foo | /bin/bar | Oct 14 18:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I know I've done it in the distant past but can't recall anything. tar | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > doesn't count. | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Do you happen to have an example handy that I could use? | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I have never piped using ssh, just tar. | Oct 14 18:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Search Products now implemented in http://schestowitz.com/tr/ | Oct 14 19:37 |
| TechBytesBot | schestowitz.com | Trends Right » Fashion for All | Oct 14 19:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172719 | Oct 14 20:36 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: First Look at GNOME 3.10 on Arch Linux http://news.softpedia.com/news/First-Look-at-GNOME-3-10-on-Arch-Linux-389114.shtml #gnome #gnu #linux #archlinux | Oct 14 20:36 |
| TechBytesBot | -> news.softpedia.com | First Look at GNOME 3.10 on Arch Linux [ http://ur1.ca/fw2cp ] | Oct 14 20:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This is one really big reason why I have been thinking of switching to Arch Linux. They seem to have the latest Gnome up and running the quickest out of all the distros. I am still using 3.4 on Debian stable.?"77" | Oct 14 20:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172740 | Oct 14 20:37 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world needs some good leaks from the SCOTUS and DOJ. Any whistleblowers to come forth? | Oct 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I don't think you understand how SCOTUS actually works. And DOJ already leaks like a sieve." | Oct 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "We don't need more leaks. We need people to stop paying for this shit. #Agorism #CounterEconomics " | Oct 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3172738 | Oct 14 20:38 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The only "Supreme" thing about the SCOTUS is that it protects the Supreme (multinational mega-corporations) from the majority. | Oct 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "SCOTUS Funny name: bestial attitude." | Oct 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I don't think that that's remotely accurate. While I certainly don't agree with some SCOTUS decisions (Citizens United based on philosophy, Dred Scott on the basis of morality), I don't think that they as a body have a pro-business agenda." | Oct 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | In many areas, such as various patents and copyrights, SCOTUS is pro-Big Business http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SCOTUS | Oct 14 20:39 |
| TechBytesBot | techrights.org | SCOTUS - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/bpuzg ] | Oct 14 20:39 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174562 | Oct 15 07:55 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #bombing for #peace | Oct 15 07:55 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "That's an old one...." | Oct 15 07:55 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Copyleft uses copyright law, so FS likes copyright, whereas patents are | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> antithetical to it. Hence, to say anything about "IP" in relation to FS | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> is like saying "stuff" about "something". | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Yes. But he wasn't the only one there making that mistake. Jon | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > "Maddog" Hall in his talk was doing similar and even misrepresenting | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > RMS' position. | Oct 16 00:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Is Hall closer to Linus' position, being part of "Linux International" and godfather of Linus' daughter? Judging by appeareance, you'd expect him to be on RMS' side. | Oct 16 00:06 |
| MinceR | FS? | Oct 16 00:09 |
| MinceR | not all free software is copyleft | Oct 16 00:10 |
| MinceR | and copyright could be reformed in a way that keeps copyleft | Oct 16 00:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> This guy's talk wasn't the most organized, the last 5 or 6 minutes cover | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> his main point. He builds up to why he now promotes the BSD license | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> over the GPL. | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> https://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/24-Rob_Landley-The_Rise_and_Fall_of_Copyleft.ogg | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> http://www.ohiolinux.org/talks#COPYLEFT | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> His classification of "universal receiver" vs "universal donor" was an | Oct 16 09:15 |
| TechBytesBot | ( status 404 @ http://www.ohiolinux.org/talks#COPYLEFT ) | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> interesting way of putting things. I share some of the misgivings of | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> having a copyright license that dabbles in patents, and having 2 | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> versions of the GPL, but haven't given up on them yet. It was a bit | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> annoying that he kept saying "intellectual property" even though he has | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>>> enough experience to know better. | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> Copyleft uses copyright law, so FS likes copyright, whereas patents are | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> antithetical to it. Hence, to say anything about "IP" in relation to FS | Oct 16 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>>> is like saying "stuff" about "something". | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> Yes. But he wasn't the only one there making that mistake. Jon | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> "Maddog" Hall in his talk was doing similar and even misrepresenting | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >>> RMS' position. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Is Hall closer to Linus' position, being part of "Linux International" | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> and godfather of Linus' daughter? Judging by appeareance, you'd expect | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> him to be on RMS' side. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > It's hard to say. It's been years and years since I've read anything | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > from him and I've only heard him give the one talk. He does start out | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > praising GNU but then at about 14:30 -15:45 he goes into a | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > misrepresentation of RMS. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > https://ia801008.us.archive.org/7/items/OhioLinuxfest2013/19-Jon_maddog_Hall-GNU_Linux_Around_the_World.ogg | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I think that's where RMS has the most trouble. He's not attacked for | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > what he says or even for his position. He's attacked for what some | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > people think they heard someone else say about what yet another person | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > said about him. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > On the Landley talk*, Landley brought up the Franklin v Apple case as | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the cause of the rise of proprietary software. Apple won on appeal. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2007/aug/06/applevfranklin | Oct 16 09:16 |
| TechBytesBot | www.theguardian.com | Apple Computer v Franklin Computer (1983) | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fwdci ] | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://copyright.laws.com/famous-cases/apple-computer-inc-v-franklin-computer-corp | Oct 16 09:16 |
| TechBytesBot | copyright.laws.com | Apple Computer Inc V Franklin Computer Corp [ http://ur1.ca/fwdck ] | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Indeed it *might* be possible to trace the problem back to that case. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Both Mad dog and RMS mention the years immediately following the case as | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > the start of the problems caused by proprietary software, even if I've | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > never heard them mention the case. Bill did not make any headway with | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > his 1973 rant against hobbyists but the Franklin case gave companies the | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > leverage they could use to go binary-only. | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > An interesting thing that Landley proposed was that the BSD-license | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > strategy was simply to out wait proprietary software, expecting it to go | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > away over time as the result of being inefficient and not maintainable | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > in the long run. I think that we've seen proprietary software diminish | Oct 16 09:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > somewhat, but for now that has been due to the GPLv2 IMHO. | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > * It was interesting but not focused enough to recommend. | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3174747 | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why do so many Chinese bitcoiners use Linux? http://www.coindesk.com/why-do-so-many-chinese-bitcoiners-use-linux/ #china #gnu #linux | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | btw, fyi: RMS on Bitcoin: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ofe9o/stallmanweneedanonymouspaymentsanonymousfor/ "77" | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.coindesk.com | Why do so many Chinese bitcoiners use Linux? - CoinDesk [ http://ur1.ca/fwdcn ] | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3175148 | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | www.reddit.com | Stallman: "We need anonymous payments — anonymous for the payer, that is. (We don’t want the payee to dodge taxes.) Bitcoin is not anonymous" : Bitcoin [ http://ur1.ca/fwdco ] | Oct 16 09:17 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CE http://i.imgur.com/ZwOavE7.jpg | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "convergence" | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Safe tto assume that for small items no factories remain in NATO nations. | Oct 16 09:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Some news leads, I've not been able to find followup material elsewhere. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 1) If they went after those responsible for creating and spreading | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Windows and Microsoft products, it might ok. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Natojurister: Okej att döda hackare : | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Efter tre års arbete har en grupp jurister på uppdrag | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > av Nato presenterat en rapport kring hur man ska | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > förhålla sig till cyberattacker. En del av slutsatserna | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > är ganska kontroversiella. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > NATO lawyers: OK to kill hackers | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > After three years of work a group of lawyers commissioned | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > by NATO have presented a report on how to | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > conduct oneself in regards to cyberattackers. A portion | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > of the conclusions are rather controversial. | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.498535 | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Natojurister: Okej att döda hackare - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjw8 ] | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 2) | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Försvarsmakten vill kunna genomföra it-attacker | Oct 17 09:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Det svenska försvaret behöver förmågan att genomföra | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > offensiva it-angrepp. Det skriver Försvarsmakten i en | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > rapport till regeringen. | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > The defense forces want to be able to carry out IT attacks | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > The Swedish defenses need the capability to carry out | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > offensive IT attacks. So writes the Defense forces in | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > a report to the government. | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.527858/forsvarsmakten-vill-kunna-genomfora-it-attacker | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Försvarsmakten vill kunna genomföra it-attacker - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjwb ] | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 3) Bush-style fingerprinting seems to be coming to Europe. (Swedish | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > police are really eager for such things and have on other occasions even | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > been calling for a DNA database.) | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > "Alla EU-länder kommer från oktober 2014 att omfattas | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > av det här kravet. Alla som söker visum till | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Schengenländer kommer att få lämna ifrån sig sina | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > fingeravtryck, och sedan kontrollerar vi dem vid | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > gränsen" | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > All EU countries will from Oct 2014 be covered | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > by this requirement. Everyone who applies for a | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > visa to Schengen countries will be required to | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > give their fingerprints, and then we will check them | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > at the border. | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.527335/svensk-polis-ska-ta-fingeravtryck-vid-gransen | Oct 17 09:14 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Svensk polis ska ta fingeravtryck vid gränsen - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjwg ] | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 4) | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > A) pushing "MS Open Tech" company | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > B) M$ Daniel Akenine claims to support royalty-free, | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > open standards | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > C) Same claims that M$ is putting a high priority on | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > interoperability with other products | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > D) M$ is claiming "full" ODF support for MS Office 2013, | Oct 17 09:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > and trying to use that as a lever to force upgrades. | Oct 17 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > No mention of using LibreOffice instead is mentioned. | Oct 17 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://computersweden.idg.se/2.2683/1.528256/hur-oppet-ar-microsoft | Oct 17 09:15 |
| TechBytesBot | computersweden.idg.se | Hur öppet är Microsoft? - Computer Sweden [ http://ur1.ca/fwjwj ] | Oct 17 09:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3178782 | Oct 17 09:46 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: News Flash: Oracle Still Hates Open Source Software http://readwrite.com/2013/10/15/oracle-opens-both-barrels-on-open-source-software-in-military-whitepaper http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/15/oracle_says_open_source_has_no_place_in_military_apps/ #scoracle | Oct 17 09:46 |
| TechBytesBot | -> readwrite.com | News Flash: Oracle Still Hates Open Source Software – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/fwk1x ] | Oct 17 09:46 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle says open source has no place in military apps • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fw6ab ] | Oct 17 09:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "... and Larry Ellison still puts shoe polish on his beard ..." | Oct 17 09:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Re: Watch "TTA Podcast 131: The Richard Dawkins Interview" on YouTube | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I don't know if you got listen to Seth 's excellent interview yet, it | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > was great. | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJIgvfTPaM&feature=youtube_gdata_player | Oct 17 22:16 |
| TechBytesBot | www.youtube.com | TTA Podcast 131: The Richard Dawkins Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwmwy ] | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I will listen to it this Sunday while the wife is out (at Church). I can't quite listen to this stuff when she's around, it would potentially offend her... | Oct 17 22:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3183656 | Oct 18 08:21 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ars Technica has its #Microsoft marketer Peter Bright paste an advert for #vista8 Rev 2 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/windows-8-1-what-a-difference-a-year-makes/ | Oct 18 08:21 |
| TechBytesBot | -> arstechnica.com | Windows 8.1: What a difference a year makes | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fwljn ] | Oct 18 08:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I hate this OS" | Oct 18 08:21 |
| MinceR | answering the headline: none | Oct 18 09:02 |
| MinceR | (except for some extra uefi crap) | Oct 18 09:02 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi Roy, | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Thanks for the quick response. I can't guarantee publication, but in my | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > experience we have never solicited input for these and not published. | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Let me know what you think and either way, thanks again for the response. | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Siobhan | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Thanks Roy - you raise good points - do you have a brief (2-3 line) bio | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > and photograph that we can include in the post? | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I'm waiting for a couple more responses but am hoping to get this out | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > mid-week next week. I'll be sure to drop a line when it's live. | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | This is my more recent bio: "I am a Software Engineer, interdisciplinary researcher, and an advocate of fair competition. I hold a doctoral degree in Medical Biophysics. In the hours of daytime I work for a company where I look after free/libre software and I also perform novel research for one of the world's top computer science departments." | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Photo attached. | Oct 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3185724 | Oct 19 01:51 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Truecrypt Cannot be Audited Because It’s Proprietary Software http://techrights.org/2013/10/18/truecrypt/ #Truecrypt | Oct 19 01:51 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | Truecrypt Cannot be Audited Because It’s Proprietary Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwqj1 ] | Oct 19 01:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 'The issue is that although TrueCrypt is open source, the binaries you can download from the website don't match the binaries you get if you build the code yourself. There's no good way to know what the differences are, and the developers aren't saying what they are or how they built it. The source code for TrueCrypt has been analyzed and is deemed secure.." | Oct 19 01:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "A discrepancy in binaries does not seem particularly surprising. They are likely built with different libraries with a different version of the compiler. But the bottom line remains the same: whenever you accept binaries from anybody, you are trusting that person/organization.' | Oct 19 01:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.happyassassin.net/2008/08/06/open-letter-to-the-developers-of-truecrypt/ | Oct 19 01:53 |
| TechBytesBot | www.happyassassin.net | AdamW on Linux and more » Blog Archive » Open letter to the developers of TrueCrypt [ http://ur1.ca/fwrm3 ] | Oct 19 01:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Ick. That by itself is more damning than the question about the binaries." | Oct 19 02:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3186870 | Oct 19 03:45 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: IBM Does Not Deserve That Much Credit for Power Systems Agenda http://techrights.org/2013/10/18/ibm-and-power/ #ibm #server #gnu #linux | Oct 19 03:45 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | IBM Does Not Deserve That Much Credit for Power Systems Agenda | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fwruk ] | Oct 19 03:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Hard to believe they essentially abandoned AIX. That was a great OS in a lot of ways. Wish they'd open some of it up since Linux basically crushed it." | Oct 19 03:45 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | IBM refused to open OS/2 even after they had nothing to lose, so i guess the motivations are similar. | Oct 19 03:45 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_minutes_of_fame | Oct 19 06:11 |
| TechBytesBot | en.wikipedia.org | 15 minutes of fame - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fws9j ] | Oct 19 06:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "15 minutes of fame is short-lived media publicity or celebrity of an individual or phenomenon. The expression was coined by Andy Warhol, who said in 1968 that "In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes." The phenomenon is often used in reference to figures in the entertainment industry or other areas of popular culture, such as reality television and YouTube. It is believed that the statement was an adaptation of | Oct 19 06:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | a theory of Marshall McLuhan, explaining the differences of media, where TV differs much from other media using contestants. A similar saying used in the UK is "nine day wonder"." | Oct 19 06:11 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The British artist Banksy has made a sculpture of a TV that has, written on its screen, "In the future, everyone will be anonymous for 15 minutes."" | Oct 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | LOL | Oct 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy | Oct 19 06:13 |
| TechBytesBot | en.wikipedia.org | Banksy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Oct 19 06:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Banksy is a pseudonymous United Kingdom-based graffiti artist, political activist, film director, and painter." | Oct 19 06:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Known for his contempt for the government in labelling graffiti as vandalism, Banksy displays his art on publicly visible surfaces such as walls, even going as far as to build physical prop pieces. Banksy does not sell photos of street graffiti directly himself; however, art auctioneers have been known to attempt to sell his street art on location and leave the problem of its removal in the hands of the winning bidder" | Oct 19 06:14 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Awesome set of posts yesterday. Unfortunately, the site's UI can't | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > handle it. They've run off the end of the stack in both the RSS feed | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > and the storied feed: | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://techrights.org/?stories | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://techrights.org/feed/ | Oct 19 10:36 |
| TechBytesBot | techrights.org | Techrights | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Maybe it's time to switch CMS, leave the old posts on the old CMS but | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > put the new ones on a news CMS. Do you think Drupal would be up to the | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > task? | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I thought about it because we're getting new Drupal clients and my employer wants us to get better at Drupal. Wouldn't consistency wrt search etc. be an issue? | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Given my more limited time as of late, I rethought my posting methods, format, tweeting, material collection methods, IRC logs, etc. Please provide suggestions, I am very open to cnanges... I can still put around 50 hours per week into techrights. If we don't change habits, we'll all become passe; D* is big at the moment as a community, but I don't think a techrights pod would gain enough momentum. identi.ca is pretty much dead and | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | last night I spent 10 mins looking at tuxmachines.org logs from the past 6 years, seeing how the site keeps dying every year since 2008 (rapid decline)... I recently donated to motivate Susan to keep it going. Groklaw is gone, Phoronix survives for now, LXer has no original content, and Linux Today is kind of in maintenance mode. Not sure where gaps and opportunities are -- or rather -- what Linux users are truly after. Microsoft | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | is quickly moving off the front pages and the NSA news are not being taken for granted. First time of many exciting political news since late 2010 (cablegate/wikileaks) but nothing too exciting now on the horizon, just lots of Android, taken for granted by now and resistant to FUD. Patents are a boring thing that's just about patent trolls now. | Oct 19 10:36 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Sorry for the senseless quick tryping. I just need ideas, I think out aloud. We do need some changes; decision on how the hours will be spent can determine the future direction of the site and community. | Oct 19 10:36 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz_bed2: there are interesting things going on. | Oct 19 12:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz_bed2: Microsoft is really attempting to killself. | Oct 19 12:45 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > I think that the current software is hurting the presence of the site. | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > It's too hard to navigate back through old posts and so on. I haven't | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > used Drupal since shortly after it came out and, thank goodness, haven't | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > had to touch PHP since 2003. However, it has come a long way in that | Oct 19 16:14 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > time and if you are also using Drupal at work you can reduce some of the | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > overhead by eliminating the extra system, or at least sidelining it. | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I thought about it for an hour today. Still undecided. Need good themes... | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> D* is big at the moment as a community, but I don't think a | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> techrights pod would gain enough momentum. | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I can never get D* to work in my browsers. Overall, the microblogging | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > seems a waste of time unless the output can be automated from a feed. | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Then it is just other people wasting their time. | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Microblogging doesn't take long; it's full articles that do. They require proofreading and outlining sometimes. | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > There is some change. I know of two M$ monkeys that have gone through | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > re-training. Actually one is in the process of retraining. Both on RPM | Oct 19 16:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > distros RHEL/CentOS. That's only a data set of 2 but they are in | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > different states and previously had never considered non-M$ products. | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Now they see Linux as a career progression. | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Cool! | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> Microsoft is quickly moving off the front pages and the NSA news are | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | >> not being taken for granted. | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > As I keep writing, the rents are what keep funding the marketing | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > companies that M$ hires. Once the monopolies on OEMs and on | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > productivity software file formats go away, the rents go and it will | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > suddenly get relatively quiet except for religious types like Icahn and | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > unfunded boosters and co. | Oct 19 16:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > The US administration and M$ are trying to make the discussion about | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > trolls but the main cause is the software patents themselves. Lessig's | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > approach is right, go upstream. I think Bruce Perens made that move a | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > long time ago. Neither have the money to outbid M$ lobbyists, but face | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > time helps almost as much. | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Maybe Techrights should cover some non-tech aspects? If so, what CMS? And any good themes? If not, it might just complicate the site and make it harder to maintain. | Oct 19 16:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/DavidKerby/status/391514995864772608 | Oct 19 16:20 |
| TechBytesBot | @DavidKerby: @schestowitz It was many months ago, so I am not surprised that you lack context. This is about electromagnetic mind control experiments. | Oct 19 16:20 |
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