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iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/valve-details-specs-for-linux-based-steam-machine-prototype-gaming-pcs-7000021607/ | Oct 07 09:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | Valve details specs for Linux-based Steam Machine prototype gaming PCs | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/funjb ] | Oct 07 09:07 |
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schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144541 | Oct 07 10:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## Hate the "Sign in to Chrome" spyware feature of Chrome? | Oct 07 10:22 |
schestowitz_bed2 | "actually that would be step 0 :)" | Oct 07 10:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.chromium.org | Policy List - The Chromium Projects [ http://ur1.ca/funzf ] | Oct 07 10:22 |
schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144544 | Oct 07 10:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/we-are-terrifyingly-close-to-the-climates-point-of-no-return/280076/ what's terrifying is the success of the denial | Oct 07 10:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' - Eric Holthaus - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/fuko1 ] | Oct 07 10:22 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | There's no actual way to know. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | And there's some ambiguity as to what is meant by a "point of no return." One point of return is the one beyond which we will have climate change. We have climate change, ergo, we have passed that one. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Another point of no return is beyond which climate will change "irrevocably," and beyond which climate may change in unpredictable ways. There is no guarantee that the emergent system would be conducive to human (or non-human) life. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | As I understand it, in order to "revoke" such changes, we would have to recreate the factors that produced the change to what we had in the recent past, that is, the factors in the change from the Paleolithic to the Neolithic. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | My reasoning is that, with the thaw of ice/permafrost around the Arctic, we have reached the point where, even if we stop all our carbon burning today, the thawing clathrates will continue to release more than enough methane to continue and increase the current greenhouse effect. When all the easily-released methane is gone, the process will stop. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | However, there is enough of it to more or less double the greenhouse effect from the existing atmospheric carbon load. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Will some geoengineering project be able to offset all that greenhouse gas? I doubt it. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Methane is bad stuff. In terms of global warming, it's about 20-25 times as potent as carbon dioxide. The good news, however, is that it breaks down relatively quickly. So it doesn't accumulate like carbon dioxide does. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Still, I don't think anyone knows just how much methane, in various forms, is locked up in the tundra and in Arctic sea beds that might be released in a thaw. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
iophk | A Venus-like atmosphere would be bad for most current multi-cellular life | Oct 07 10:32 |
oiaohm | iophk: exactly what is a Venus-like atmosphere good for fairly much nothing. | Oct 07 10:38 |
oiaohm | iophk: venus surface is rock melting hot. | Oct 07 10:39 |
iophk | Ours might not get rock-melting hotk, but it could potentially get way to hot for current land life. | Oct 07 10:39 |
iophk | http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/energy/methane-hydrates/ | Oct 07 10:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | worldoceanreview.com | Methane hydrates « World Ocean Review [ http://ur1.ca/fuo3g ] | Oct 07 10:41 |
iophk | There's a lot of methane in the water that could boil off if it gets too hot. That will in turn make it even hotter. | Oct 07 10:41 |
oiaohm | Yes the true point of no return. | Oct 07 10:41 |
oiaohm | The point of no return currently talked about is the point that is insanely hard to return from. | Oct 07 10:41 |
iophk | Most people aren't facing that. They're too used to laws and limits that can be bent or exceeded without consequence. | Oct 07 10:42 |
iophk | Pay a small fine and say "sorry" and all that. | Oct 07 10:42 |
iophk | Planets don't work that way. | Oct 07 10:42 |
oiaohm | The big worry is the melting Ice | Oct 07 10:43 |
oiaohm | But that was always a fairly much universal clock to the next ice age. | Oct 07 10:43 |
iophk | Yeah in the short term. | Oct 07 10:43 |
oiaohm | Earth is not Venus. | Oct 07 10:43 |
iophk | Florida is gone no matter what happens next. | Oct 07 10:43 |
oiaohm | Earth normal operation system is to self iceage itself. | Oct 07 10:44 |
oiaohm | Melt enough ice over heat get too much cloud then freeze our nuts off. | Oct 07 10:44 |
oiaohm | Normal earth cycle. | Oct 07 10:44 |
oiaohm | Of course the dieing creatures form a new oil resovers and that kind of things. | Oct 07 10:45 |
oiaohm | Basically Earth will reset it self. The question is can we live out the few thousand years required. | Oct 07 10:45 |
oiaohm | In fact what is the stuff up at the moment is a process called global dimming reducing water evaporation. | Oct 07 10:46 |
iophk | If the change is mild, like another ice age, there will be homids. | Oct 07 10:46 |
iophk | Civilization is much more fragile that that, though. | Oct 07 10:47 |
iophk | It's only a veneer. | Oct 07 10:47 |
iophk | and easily removed. | Oct 07 10:47 |
oiaohm | iophk: yes there were clivilzations before the last iceage that went by by. | Oct 07 10:50 |
iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/07/drm_html_5_point_1/ | Oct 07 10:59 |
iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052148/webs-gatekeepers-embrace-drm-for-next-html5-standard.html | Oct 07 10:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Web Daddy Berners-Lee DRMs HTML5 into 2016 • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7i ] | Oct 07 10:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Web's gatekeepers embrace DRM for next HTML5 standard | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7j ] | Oct 07 10:59 |
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iophk | old - http://www.thestreet.com/story/11958450/1/theres-no-question-now-apple-is-dead.html | Oct 07 11:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.thestreet.com | There's No Question Now: Apple is Dead - TheStreet [ http://ur1.ca/fuok0 ] | Oct 07 11:48 |
iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24335517 | Oct 07 12:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Ace cafe with quite a nice ancient monument attached? [ http://ur1.ca/fuon9 ] | Oct 07 12:11 |
schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3148583 | Oct 07 12:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2013/10/libe-whistleblower-hearing-at-the-european-parliament.html #libe #privacy | Oct 07 12:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> anniemachon.ch | LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament - Using Our Intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/fuolt ] | Oct 07 12:12 |
schestowitz_bed2 | "Not so sure about their children ....... check up on some of the really greedy ones ......... They stop their children becoming as bad as themselves for some reason unknown to us ............ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=billionaires+children+problems&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0#hl=en&q=billionaires+children+inheritance" | Oct 07 12:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | billionaires children problems - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fuonf ] | Oct 07 12:12 |
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MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1274/ | Oct 07 14:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | xkcd.com | xkcd: Open Letter | Oct 07 14:07 |
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DaemonFC | I'm cashing out all my survey money as Amazon gift cards. | Oct 07 17:15 |
DaemonFC | By the time I'm done posting them to my account, I'll have enough to go in and get a free Chromebook. | Oct 07 17:16 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 07 17:16 |
DaemonFC | I'm told that the process for getting Fedora to run on one of those things isn't that hard. | Oct 07 17:16 |
*DaemonFC is still interested in that Crown Vic that needed a lot of repairs. | Oct 07 17:29 | |
DaemonFC | I'm going to just let it sit. Eventually they'll come down on the price some more or send it off to auction. | Oct 07 17:30 |
DaemonFC | It needs at least $1,200 worth of work to make it right, and that's just what I know about. | Oct 07 17:30 |
DaemonFC | It makes me mad because we were so close on price. Like, within $200-$300. | Oct 07 17:30 |
DaemonFC | But I've got to get it at the right price to make the repairs worth it. | Oct 07 17:31 |
DaemonFC | I was looking into a 2002 Lincoln Town Car but it sold before I could get down there. | Oct 07 17:34 |
DaemonFC | The guy said that there was a problem with the air ride suspension. Those cost a fortune to fix, but you can just replace them with the coil spring system meant for the Crown Victoria, and then it shouldn't ever be a problem again. | Oct 07 17:35 |
DaemonFC | http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=46750&mmt=[FORD[CROWNVIC[]][]LINC[LINCTC[]][]MERC[MERCGRAND[]][]]&modelCode1=CROWNVIC&makeCode2=LINC&modelCode2=LINCTC&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode3=MERCGRAND&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=67414707&makeCode3=MERC&searchRadius=50&bodyStyleCodes=SEDAN&listingId=352693481&listingIndex=6&Log=0 | Oct 07 17:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.autotrader.com | AutoTrader.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqch ] | Oct 07 17:37 |
DaemonFC | That would be alright. :) | Oct 07 17:37 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/ | Oct 07 19:08 |
DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 07 19:08 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | www.infowars.com | » FBI unable to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from Silk Road operator Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! [ http://ur1.ca/fuqpq ] | Oct 07 19:08 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/ | Oct 07 19:08 |
DaemonFC | So really what this will amount to is taking 5% of all bitcoins permanently out of circulation. | Oct 07 19:09 |
DaemonFC | That will have the effect of making the remaining bitcoins worth more. | Oct 07 19:09 |
DaemonFC | The only way a currency can suffer from inflation is when there are more of them in circulation. | Oct 07 19:10 |
DaemonFC | You can create a billion dollars and it wouldn't have an inflationary effect until those dollars are actually circulating in the economy. | Oct 07 19:10 |
DaemonFC | If you put them in a safe and never spent them on anything, they wouldn't have an inflationary effect on the rest of the money supply. | Oct 07 19:11 |
DaemonFC | The Federal Reserve is actually falling short of its inflation goals because people are saving more than they used to. | Oct 07 19:11 |
DaemonFC | http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/07/supreme-court-new-term-virginia-sodomy | Oct 07 19:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Supreme court begins new term by throwing out Virginia sodomy law | Law | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqt1 ] | Oct 07 19:26 |
_Goblin | Bit coin is not wise to mention around the conspiracy folk....its mysterious beginnings are to do with a "new world order" or something like that... | Oct 07 19:34 |
MinceR | https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_776225eed68bbb5ffbcd.jpeg | Oct 07 19:59 |
iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/google-berners-lee-alliance-broadband-africa | Oct 07 20:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Google and Sir Tim Berners-Lee lead coalition for cheaper internet | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzc ] | Oct 07 20:04 |
iophk | Affordable but not open? | Oct 07 20:04 |
iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-groups-demand-pirate-bay-blockade-in-iceland-131007/ | Oct 07 20:08 |
TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Copyright Groups Demand Pirate Bay Blockade in Iceland | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzs ] | Oct 07 20:08 |
iophk | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/windows-phone-htc-licence-fee-128881 | Oct 07 20:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Willing To Let HTC USe Windows Phone For Free [ http://ur1.ca/fur0a ] | Oct 07 20:10 |
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MinceR | that still doesn't quite reach the value of winblows phone | Oct 07 21:16 |
Sosumi | M$ hemorraging money = good | Oct 07 21:24 |
MinceR | if they'd pay HTC lots for each winblows phone, yes | Oct 07 21:26 |
MinceR | it would be even better if it was similar to their licensing, i.e. paid for every cpu sold, regardless of whether it's running winblows or not | Oct 07 21:26 |
Sosumi | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_ending_support_for_meego_and_symbian_january_1-news-6923.php | Oct 07 22:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.gsmarena.com | Nokia ending support for MeeGo and Symbian January 1 - GSMArena.com news [ http://ur1.ca/furk0 ] | Oct 07 22:03 |
Sosumi | Elop should be run over by a truck | Oct 07 22:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I guess loads more go to Androdinstead | Oct 07 22:06 |
sebsebseb | and some toIphone | Oct 07 22:07 |
sebsebseb | and Ubutu Touch won't be out on ertian phones until next year it seems | Oct 07 22:07 |
sebsebseb | and Firefox Os is developing world and geeks | Oct 07 22:07 |
Sosumi | yes, there's options, but I actually like symbian | Oct 07 22:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Nokia = Microsoft now | Oct 07 22:09 |
sebsebseb | or pretty much | Oct 07 22:09 |
sebsebseb | they want Windows PHone out there, not these otherones | Oct 07 22:09 |
Sosumi | yeah | Oct 07 22:09 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: you may like Smybian but at the endof the day, its a project/product from a commericial company | Oct 07 22:10 |
sebsebseb | so when they decide to kil it, that's t realyl | Oct 07 22:10 |
Sosumi | well, also don't forget nokia had the best cameraphones around | Oct 07 22:10 |
sebsebseb | I don't know | Oct 07 22:11 |
Sosumi | it's just shamefull the way the company went | Oct 07 22:11 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ,buts seems maybe so going by a coment on that ink | Oct 07 22:11 |
MinceR | symbian jumped the shark with mandatory app signing | Oct 07 22:12 |
Sosumi | that I don't know | Oct 07 22:14 |
Sosumi | but for now on the only viable option is "pure" android | Oct 07 22:14 |
Sosumi | even I'm waiting for the nexus 5 despite it's week battery | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yeah the only main streame consumer Linux option will be Andorid | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | unles Ubuntu Phone hitsoff | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | well FIrefox OS may become main | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | well FIrefox OS may become main stremae in AFrica, but therest of the world nonot realy any time soon Iguess | Oct 07 22:15 |
Sosumi | to replace my E90 | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | what's a E90 | Oct 07 22:16 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 22:16 |
Sosumi | nokia E90 | Oct 07 22:16 |
sebsebseb | no don't know what that is | Oct 07 22:28 |
Sosumi | it's one of those last communicator series from nokia | Oct 07 22:28 |
*sebsebseb feels a bit uh after all thoe crisps, and the mik shakeshm | Oct 07 22:28 | |
sebsebseb | I Thni | Oct 07 22:28 |
sebsebseb | I thinkit'st he crisps makng me feel uh though | Oct 07 22:28 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Do you know what Crisps are ? what country were you fromagain? | Oct 07 22:29 |
MinceR | is debian in a chroot on android impure? :> | Oct 07 22:29 |
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Sosumi | portugal | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ok | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | and actsualy let's ask MinceR this one as well :d | Oct 07 22:29 |
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sebsebseb | and no chating to look up | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | if your not sure | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | plea | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | no cheating | Oct 07 22:29 |
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sebsebseb | Sosumi: MinceR Do you know what crisps are? | Oct 07 22:29 |
Sosumi | potato chips? | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | ok that was his answer | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | what's your | Oct 07 22:29 |
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sebsebseb | s MinceR | Oct 07 22:29 |
MinceR | i think that's what brits call chips :> | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | yeah what they call chips in mainlandEurope or most of it hwatever | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | we call crisps | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | and we don't really say French fries | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | we say chips | Oct 07 22:29 |
MinceR | they're belgian anyway :> | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | uh which is from Beligum > | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 22:29 |
MinceR | fries | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | I don't know | Oct 07 22:29 |
sebsebseb | that's all over the place really | Oct 07 22:29 |
MinceR | it's just that about half of them speak french | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | oh ok | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | well Dutch and Frenh | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | and there's Flemish too | Oct 07 22:32 |
MinceR | indeed | Oct 07 22:32 |
MinceR | apparently Flemish is the common name for the Dutch language | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | and English of coure as an unoffical language | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | of the country | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | :D | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | there's a Fleish speaing part | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | andthen the dutchspeaing part | Oct 07 22:32 |
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sebsebseb | Brussues being in the dutch speaking part | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | oh yeah reminds me, I was thinking about booking my plane today forFOSDEM | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | so it's qutieearly | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | and cheap stil :d | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | coud have done that like two months ago | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | should still be cheap fo r those dates | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi nearly time fo me too go to a rather well Ubuntu ths and that, but not only event | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi to hopefully speak about Mageia :) | Oct 07 22:32 |
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sebsebseb | like wanted too do lat year, but now may just do a short one | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | hopineg to both ashort lightning talk and a longer my own room | Oct 07 22:32 |
MinceR | :) | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | 5 minute LightningTalk on the mainstage | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | with timeforprobably 1 quesiton | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | seems ok | Oct 07 22:32 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi means I got ot sort out my slides | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | and this time round should do it eary enough! | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | make two lots of slides, for a lighting talk, and a longer tal | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | and then what happens happes I guess | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but evenif I ony get to do the lightning talk, that's better than nothing | Oct 07 22:32 |
Sosumi | sebsebseb, turn into stallman whille you're at it | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | didn't reolie there was lightning talks lastyear | Oct 07 22:32 |
MinceR | :D | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: nope I can't, also Magiea in't quite considered free softwareonly distor | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | sine hwatever | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but neary | Oct 07 22:32 |
Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ | Oct 07 22:32 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/9z7ny ] | Oct 07 22:32 |
Sosumi | or at least do that | Oct 07 22:32 |
MinceR | is that important? | Oct 07 22:32 |
Sosumi | no, but epic | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | I have seen the foot vide before | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | I hae also spoke to Richard STallman monthsago | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but not qute how I wnated | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but ha well | Oct 07 22:32 |
Sosumi | well, in St. iGNUcious we trust | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | well none of that in Android | Oct 07 22:33 |
sebsebseb | Android does have a special penguin inside it though | Oct 07 22:33 |
sebsebseb | ,but there's no couple | Oct 07 22:33 |
MinceR | i don't, i use vim :> | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | it's like the special penguin broke up with it's GNU, for Android | Oct 07 22:34 |
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sebsebseb | broken love | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | for Andorid anyway | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | weird relationshop hehheh | Oct 07 22:34 |
Sosumi | yeah, but android ins't that great because it's tied to google | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | Destop Inux etc they are tgether | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | ,but no no not Anroid | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | for soe reason they don't like eah | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | each other when it comes to Android | Oct 07 22:34 |
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sebsebseb | Sosumi: right bingo | Oct 07 22:35 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: and Symbian and Meego weren't that great either | Oct 07 22:35 |
sebsebseb | since they were tighed toNokia | Oct 07 22:35 |
sebsebseb | and then well your article | Oct 07 22:35 |
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Sosumi | nop, they weren't, but at least they weren't used by google in order to snoop on me | Oct 07 22:35 |
Sosumi | that's on what I wanted to get on when I mentioned the nexus 5 | Oct 07 22:36 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: watch out GOogle GLass is behind you | Oct 07 22:36 |
MinceR | they were tied to a non-m$ nokia, though | Oct 07 22:36 |
sebsebseb | watch out evene more so, if your using a public toilet and Google glass is around! | Oct 07 22:36 |
Sosumi | since the phone comes with the bootloader unlocked and android is free software | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | Google gass is scary | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | in a wya | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | Google Glass will turn peoe into Googl agents to | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | if it hti oss | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | off | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | in fact it may b a bit ike the Matrix | Oct 07 22:37 |
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MinceR | they can be rooted | Oct 07 22:37 |
Sosumi | why not make a "security" enhanced android? with all the google stuff out | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | with the evil super computer being in Google etc | Oct 07 22:38 |
MinceR | Sosumi: i think it's called AOSP :> | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Google glass can be rooted? | Oct 07 22:38 |
MinceR | afaik it was already rooted long ago | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | so can gan root | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | anddo hwatever | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | withit | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 22:38 |
Sosumi | glass is waste | Oct 07 22:38 |
Sosumi | no steroscopic 3d view | Oct 07 22:39 |
MinceR | doesn't need it, it's just a HUD ;) | Oct 07 22:39 |
sebsebseb | a HUD ????? | Oct 07 22:40 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: watch ut, Google glass is right htere, and there and that person wearing it too etc, and hidden away in your home to a pair etc | Oct 07 22:40 |
Sosumi | heads up display | Oct 07 22:40 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: your every move well neary all going to GOogle | Oct 07 22:40 |
MinceR | Head-Up Display | Oct 07 22:40 |
sebsebseb | Google agents spying on Sosumi | Oct 07 22:40 |
Sosumi | just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they not out to get ya | Oct 07 22:41 |
Sosumi | *are | Oct 07 22:41 |
Sosumi | :) | Oct 07 22:41 |
sebsebseb | oh MinceR those people are following you with Google glass too oh and the Hungarian goverment made a deal with Google, and have access to all the Hungarian Google glass streas and well they are coming after you, since they don't like you since you want freedom, and use Linux, you can't hide, Google glass is all over, they are coming to get you, to put you under arrest for wanting freedom and using LInux | Oct 07 22:42 |
MinceR | joke is on them, glass runs linux | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: heh heh I was just typing n something about that :d | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | basicaly this: | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | no no you can't tell them that Google Glass uses Linux, and use that | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | it's about deskto linux etc | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | your not allowed to have freedom using Desktop Linux in Hungary, it's illegal in the new HUn | Oct 07 22:44 |
sebsebseb | hungary adyou | Oct 07 22:44 |
sebsebseb | and to use a desktop or a laptop computer you must use Windows or Mac OS X | Oct 07 22:44 |
MinceR | i'll be gone before they get around to that | Oct 07 22:46 |
Sosumi | just embed a computer into a bathtub so you can can have a bathtub computer | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: so you said before, whe nI put something ike that | Oct 07 22:46 |
MinceR | or embed a bathtub into a computer | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | ,but non no | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | the borers will be bocked | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | a wall will come up against borders well for most parts | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | etc | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | yu wil | Oct 07 22:46 |
MinceR | they can't afford walls | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | you willl be shot if attemtping to cross and caught as well | Oct 07 22:47 |
MinceR | they've spent all the money on stadia | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | on what? | Oct 07 22:47 |
MinceR | stadiums | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | football ? | Oct 07 22:47 |
MinceR | indeed | Oct 07 22:47 |
Sosumi | meh football | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | they willgo cheap an put machine guns that are autoaticalll detecting of peoleetc, in border crossings | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | so either way you will most liely get shot | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | automatiallicaly detecting of people | Oct 07 22:48 |
sebsebseb | uh net book keyboard | Oct 07 22:48 |
MinceR | that too will end my problems | Oct 07 22:48 |
MinceR | but it's another thing they can't afford anyway | Oct 07 22:48 |
sebsebseb | it will be like this film I saw, when Scoltand apparaty had a vius or whateve,r and then teh border crossing with Englad, a machine gun | Oct 07 22:48 |
sebsebseb | any detection of movement, and shoot, poor rabbit | Oct 07 22:49 |
MinceR | that's the uk and this is hungary | Oct 07 22:49 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: no no that was a film | Oct 07 22:49 |
sebsebseb | fiction | Oct 07 22:49 |
MinceR | hungary is stranger than fiction | Oct 07 22:50 |
sebsebseb | fiction make beie | Oct 07 22:50 |
MinceR | we're having trouble telling real news from fake news | Oct 07 22:50 |
sebsebseb | anyway watch out Sosumi is reallly a spy from your goverment | Oct 07 22:50 |
MinceR | this channel is publicly logged | Oct 07 22:50 |
sebsebseb | specificaly here too spy on you | Oct 07 22:50 |
Sosumi | I spy with my little, | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | yes, but een though the public logs, they want a witness of the ince | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | MinceR in here so they sent Sosumi | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | a Hungairan MinceR spy living in Portugal, heh heh | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | better watch out or may take some questionable pics of you | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | and demmand some ransom money | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | :) | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: of MinceR yeah | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | and of you | Oct 07 22:52 |
sebsebseb | yeah you black mail people | Oct 07 22:52 |
sebsebseb | you bad boy! | Oct 07 22:52 |
Sosumi | lol | Oct 07 22:53 |
Sosumi | but actually, I saw a guy very similar to you today at my university | Oct 07 22:53 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: uh you don't know what I look like | Oct 07 22:53 |
Sosumi | yes I do | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | unlless | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: well i was going to say | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | unless you saw my video | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | ,but | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | those slides..... | Oct 07 22:54 |
Sosumi | yeah the slides | Oct 07 22:54 |
Sosumi | from like back in may or so | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yeah that slide show was horrile | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I Think the talk got a bit messed up as a result | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | hence also why I don't want the site for the event too just link to them | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | altough an option | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: plus I lost Mageia enthuusiasm at the time | Oct 07 22:55 |
sebsebseb | and tried to do something more general but hardwr than I Thought orwhtever | Oct 07 22:55 |
sebsebseb | no videos of those talks may hae been for beset this tie hmm | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | go back next year, and do something simiar and better :) | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh and speak at an event in just under two weeks :) | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | as I was saying | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | make sure slies are nicey done before even tralling to that city this time too | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | or done enough | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: get vidoed etc | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | get a bog ost written up | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | and yep :) | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | put video onine as well ype | Oct 07 22:56 |
Sosumi | every time I had to present something | Oct 07 22:57 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yep chat at theat eevent that's coming up soon | Oct 07 22:57 |
sebsebseb | and then that one I went to again next year | Oct 07 22:57 |
Sosumi | usually ment going to the blackboard do some crazy calculus stuff | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | really want to d a really good talk next year and such | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: got a cub to hep me learn speaking skills ore, before the one I went too again | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | as well | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: what's nice is I get to do a short talk there t he day before tralvilng off to the city | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | for the one that's coming up oson | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | should be speaking thre a short talk about something the day before so a kind of warm up in a wa then | Oct 07 22:59 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: what's also awesome is that got a awesome Magiea welcome screne new feature | Oct 07 22:59 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: that I can show and talk about :) | Oct 07 22:59 |
Sosumi | don't forget to show up as gandalf too | Oct 07 22:59 |
Sosumi | since mageia basically means magic | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | I am thinking Mageia 2 for the control centre screenshots | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | in Gnome and KDE | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | and then Mageia 4 Alpha 3 fo the welcoe screen, screenshots and well that looks like Mageia 3 at the moment | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I don't like the look of Mageia 3 much | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | and for my Lightning Talk not to bother with the Mageia 1 look | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | unles very quck | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | it lolks ugy too | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | paine I mean, and that release han't been supported for qutie a whie now | Oct 07 23:01 |
Sosumi | bash looks the same everywhere :P | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: KDE ad Gnome | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | look pretty much the same everywehre too | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | and XCE and LXDE nad what not | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | slight chage of icons, and theme maybe, and that's about it | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | where icons go etc | Oct 07 23:02 |
Sosumi | kde with all those permanent notifications in their later releases is kind of dumb | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | ,but htose are upstrea projects | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: they want too see distro specific stuf more so | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | at the event I am going to | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | it will be in front of loads of Linuxusers | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | well many Ubuntu users and such | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I'll do a talk about the community | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | how it's set up | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | how we contribute to upstream projects to | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | so yeah like I did before for the LIghtning Talk then | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | and longer fo the other one etc if doinga longer one | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yep control centre, wecleom scree, event photos | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | the diagrom about how the projet is set up | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | and some talk about this and that, and that's that really | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: did you ever see my Lighting Talk ? | Oct 07 23:05 |
Sosumi | no | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Mageia Lightning Talk | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | findi t on Youtube | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | there's a eent descripton and the ink to slides too | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: so I plan to do a simia talk to that one, but at http://oggcamp.org | Oct 07 23:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | oggcamp.org | OggCamp | Oct 07 23:06 |
sebsebseb | to do a similar Lighting Talk at least | Oct 07 23:06 |
sebsebseb | ,but hopefuly can get my own room too, then can do one about going fro uer to contributer etc and why, that's longer | Oct 07 23:06 |
MinceR | gn | Oct 07 23:06 |
sebsebseb | !google Magiea Lightining Talk | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mageia Lightning Talk - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRo7UrIivYBo | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Mageia has been visiting Europe | Mageia Blog (English) | http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/07/17/mageia-has-been-visiting-europe/ | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - bjoernvold.com • View topic - Mageia 3 | http://bjoernvold.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D32%26t%3D2710%26start%3D12 | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - What so special about Mageia ? - SlideShare | http://www.slideshare.net/eurolinux/what-so-special-about-mageia | Oct 07 23:07 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: night | Oct 07 23:07 |
Sosumi | how many ppl fell asleep or burst into laughter? | Oct 07 23:07 |
Sosumi | :P | Oct 07 23:07 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: for the LIghtning Talk I did beore | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | oh it was good | Oct 07 23:08 |
Sosumi | I'm just joking | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: five guys or so coming up afterowulds wanting tofndout more | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: talking at that event this year, didn't seem to go that well | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | or welll the general talk anyway | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | the LUG one ok, but wnet over a bit | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | time wise | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I feel like I Need too go back next year, and really make sure, that I deliver really good talks when I do :) | Oct 07 23:09 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ,but yeah Liverpool in justunde two weeks :D | Oct 07 23:09 |
sebsebseb | should get to speak there this year too :) unike last year | Oct 07 23:10 |
Sosumi | that's nice | Oct 07 23:10 |
sebsebseb | so yeah got sides to sort out before then | Oct 07 23:10 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh and tommorwo I findout omething to, that's not related | Oct 07 23:10 |
Sosumi | well man, I'm exausted | Oct 07 23:14 |
Sosumi | and tomorrow the metro workers are on strike | Oct 07 23:15 |
Sosumi | so gn :) | Oct 07 23:15 |
DaemonFC | The US needs someone that has the authority to dismiss Congress and call new elections. | Oct 07 23:15 |
DaemonFC | This is really just about as low as I've ever seen Congress get. | Oct 07 23:16 |
DaemonFC | Most other countries would have dissolved their parliament if this kind of thing actually happened. | Oct 07 23:16 |
Sosumi | dissolve parliament and call in new elections... | Oct 07 23:17 |
Sosumi | but if obozo had any guts, all we'd need was to do an executive order scrapping the debt ceiling (like you said) and declare all gov essential | Oct 07 23:18 |
DaemonFC | Declare it all essential and not subject to shutdown, and then invoke the 14th Amendment. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | That would effectively neuter Congress. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | They'd never be able to bullshit us like this again. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | If they don't want to pay for a program, they shouldn't enact that program. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | They shouldn't be able to enact a program and then refuse to pay for it. | Oct 07 23:20 |
DaemonFC | If they want to repeal a program or specifically pass a law that changes the funding level, then that's a valid exercise. | Oct 07 23:20 |
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DaemonFC | But what they're doing is refusing to pay for anything, at all, even though they've passed programs and funding levels that have not been changed. | Oct 07 23:21 |
DaemonFC | The only thing they've been doing since the Republican minority took over is using the debt ceiling to threaten us with every six months or so. | Oct 07 23:22 |
DaemonFC | Sosumi, I think Obama will get to the point where he has to do what I said he should do. | Oct 07 23:23 |
DaemonFC | For political reasons, he needs to wait until Congress fails to act. | Oct 07 23:23 |
DaemonFC | Then he can declare an emergency and invoke his authority to ignore the debt ceiling. | Oct 07 23:23 |
DaemonFC | They might see that coming and agree to raise the debt ceiling to prevent him from setting that precedent. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | They know that if he ever gets that power, he'd never give it back. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | and neither would any other president | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | So he's doing the right thing for once. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | When he says there will be no negotiations under these circumstances. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | The other thing that might happen is the discharge petition. | Oct 07 23:27 |
DaemonFC | The Democrats in the House can force a vote to raise the debt ceiling if they can get enough Republicans to sign on to that. | Oct 07 23:28 |
DaemonFC | Then they'd only need to find 18 Republicans that would do that. Enough Republicans probably want this whole thing to go away so they don't lose their next election, that this might happen. | Oct 07 23:28 |
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schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144544 | Oct 07 10:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/we-are-terrifyingly-close-to-the-climates-point-of-no-return/280076/ what's terrifying is the success of the denial | Oct 07 10:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' - Eric Holthaus - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/fuko1 ] | Oct 07 10:22 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | There's no actual way to know. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | And there's some ambiguity as to what is meant by a "point of no return." One point of return is the one beyond which we will have climate change. We have climate change, ergo, we have passed that one. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Another point of no return is beyond which climate will change "irrevocably," and beyond which climate may change in unpredictable ways. There is no guarantee that the emergent system would be conducive to human (or non-human) life. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | As I understand it, in order to "revoke" such changes, we would have to recreate the factors that produced the change to what we had in the recent past, that is, the factors in the change from the Paleolithic to the Neolithic. | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | My reasoning is that, with the thaw of ice/permafrost around the Arctic, we have reached the point where, even if we stop all our carbon burning today, the thawing clathrates will continue to release more than enough methane to continue and increase the current greenhouse effect. When all the easily-released methane is gone, the process will stop. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | However, there is enough of it to more or less double the greenhouse effect from the existing atmospheric carbon load. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Will some geoengineering project be able to offset all that greenhouse gas? I doubt it. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Methane is bad stuff. In terms of global warming, it's about 20-25 times as potent as carbon dioxide. The good news, however, is that it breaks down relatively quickly. So it doesn't accumulate like carbon dioxide does. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Still, I don't think anyone knows just how much methane, in various forms, is locked up in the tundra and in Arctic sea beds that might be released in a thaw. | Oct 07 10:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 10:24 |
iophk | A Venus-like atmosphere would be bad for most current multi-cellular life | Oct 07 10:32 |
oiaohm | iophk: exactly what is a Venus-like atmosphere good for fairly much nothing. | Oct 07 10:38 |
oiaohm | iophk: venus surface is rock melting hot. | Oct 07 10:39 |
iophk | Ours might not get rock-melting hotk, but it could potentially get way to hot for current land life. | Oct 07 10:39 |
iophk | http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/energy/methane-hydrates/ | Oct 07 10:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | worldoceanreview.com | Methane hydrates « World Ocean Review [ http://ur1.ca/fuo3g ] | Oct 07 10:41 |
iophk | There's a lot of methane in the water that could boil off if it gets too hot. That will in turn make it even hotter. | Oct 07 10:41 |
oiaohm | Yes the true point of no return. | Oct 07 10:41 |
oiaohm | The point of no return currently talked about is the point that is insanely hard to return from. | Oct 07 10:41 |
iophk | Most people aren't facing that. They're too used to laws and limits that can be bent or exceeded without consequence. | Oct 07 10:42 |
iophk | Pay a small fine and say "sorry" and all that. | Oct 07 10:42 |
iophk | Planets don't work that way. | Oct 07 10:42 |
oiaohm | The big worry is the melting Ice | Oct 07 10:43 |
oiaohm | But that was always a fairly much universal clock to the next ice age. | Oct 07 10:43 |
iophk | Yeah in the short term. | Oct 07 10:43 |
oiaohm | Earth is not Venus. | Oct 07 10:43 |
iophk | Florida is gone no matter what happens next. | Oct 07 10:43 |
oiaohm | Earth normal operation system is to self iceage itself. | Oct 07 10:44 |
oiaohm | Melt enough ice over heat get too much cloud then freeze our nuts off. | Oct 07 10:44 |
oiaohm | Normal earth cycle. | Oct 07 10:44 |
oiaohm | Of course the dieing creatures form a new oil resovers and that kind of things. | Oct 07 10:45 |
oiaohm | Basically Earth will reset it self. The question is can we live out the few thousand years required. | Oct 07 10:45 |
oiaohm | In fact what is the stuff up at the moment is a process called global dimming reducing water evaporation. | Oct 07 10:46 |
iophk | If the change is mild, like another ice age, there will be homids. | Oct 07 10:46 |
iophk | Civilization is much more fragile that that, though. | Oct 07 10:47 |
iophk | It's only a veneer. | Oct 07 10:47 |
iophk | and easily removed. | Oct 07 10:47 |
oiaohm | iophk: yes there were clivilzations before the last iceage that went by by. | Oct 07 10:50 |
iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/07/drm_html_5_point_1/ | Oct 07 10:59 |
iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052148/webs-gatekeepers-embrace-drm-for-next-html5-standard.html | Oct 07 10:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Web Daddy Berners-Lee DRMs HTML5 into 2016 • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7i ] | Oct 07 10:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Web's gatekeepers embrace DRM for next HTML5 standard | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7j ] | Oct 07 10:59 |
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iophk | old - http://www.thestreet.com/story/11958450/1/theres-no-question-now-apple-is-dead.html | Oct 07 11:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.thestreet.com | There's No Question Now: Apple is Dead - TheStreet [ http://ur1.ca/fuok0 ] | Oct 07 11:48 |
iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24335517 | Oct 07 12:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Ace cafe with quite a nice ancient monument attached? [ http://ur1.ca/fuon9 ] | Oct 07 12:11 |
schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3148583 | Oct 07 12:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2013/10/libe-whistleblower-hearing-at-the-european-parliament.html #libe #privacy | Oct 07 12:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> anniemachon.ch | LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament - Using Our Intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/fuolt ] | Oct 07 12:12 |
schestowitz_bed2 | "Not so sure about their children ....... check up on some of the really greedy ones ......... They stop their children becoming as bad as themselves for some reason unknown to us ............ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=billionaires+children+problems&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0#hl=en&q=billionaires+children+inheritance" | Oct 07 12:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | billionaires children problems - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fuonf ] | Oct 07 12:12 |
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MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1274/ | Oct 07 14:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | xkcd.com | xkcd: Open Letter | Oct 07 14:07 |
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DaemonFC | I'm cashing out all my survey money as Amazon gift cards. | Oct 07 17:15 |
DaemonFC | By the time I'm done posting them to my account, I'll have enough to go in and get a free Chromebook. | Oct 07 17:16 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 07 17:16 |
DaemonFC | I'm told that the process for getting Fedora to run on one of those things isn't that hard. | Oct 07 17:16 |
*DaemonFC is still interested in that Crown Vic that needed a lot of repairs. | Oct 07 17:29 | |
DaemonFC | I'm going to just let it sit. Eventually they'll come down on the price some more or send it off to auction. | Oct 07 17:30 |
DaemonFC | It needs at least $1,200 worth of work to make it right, and that's just what I know about. | Oct 07 17:30 |
DaemonFC | It makes me mad because we were so close on price. Like, within $200-$300. | Oct 07 17:30 |
DaemonFC | But I've got to get it at the right price to make the repairs worth it. | Oct 07 17:31 |
DaemonFC | I was looking into a 2002 Lincoln Town Car but it sold before I could get down there. | Oct 07 17:34 |
DaemonFC | The guy said that there was a problem with the air ride suspension. Those cost a fortune to fix, but you can just replace them with the coil spring system meant for the Crown Victoria, and then it shouldn't ever be a problem again. | Oct 07 17:35 |
DaemonFC | http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=46750&mmt=[FORD[CROWNVIC[]][]LINC[LINCTC[]][]MERC[MERCGRAND[]][]]&modelCode1=CROWNVIC&makeCode2=LINC&modelCode2=LINCTC&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode3=MERCGRAND&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=67414707&makeCode3=MERC&searchRadius=50&bodyStyleCodes=SEDAN&listingId=352693481&listingIndex=6&Log=0 | Oct 07 17:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.autotrader.com | AutoTrader.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqch ] | Oct 07 17:37 |
DaemonFC | That would be alright. :) | Oct 07 17:37 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/ | Oct 07 19:08 |
DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 07 19:08 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | www.infowars.com | » FBI unable to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from Silk Road operator Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! [ http://ur1.ca/fuqpq ] | Oct 07 19:08 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/ | Oct 07 19:08 |
DaemonFC | So really what this will amount to is taking 5% of all bitcoins permanently out of circulation. | Oct 07 19:09 |
DaemonFC | That will have the effect of making the remaining bitcoins worth more. | Oct 07 19:09 |
DaemonFC | The only way a currency can suffer from inflation is when there are more of them in circulation. | Oct 07 19:10 |
DaemonFC | You can create a billion dollars and it wouldn't have an inflationary effect until those dollars are actually circulating in the economy. | Oct 07 19:10 |
DaemonFC | If you put them in a safe and never spent them on anything, they wouldn't have an inflationary effect on the rest of the money supply. | Oct 07 19:11 |
DaemonFC | The Federal Reserve is actually falling short of its inflation goals because people are saving more than they used to. | Oct 07 19:11 |
DaemonFC | http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/07/supreme-court-new-term-virginia-sodomy | Oct 07 19:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Supreme court begins new term by throwing out Virginia sodomy law | Law | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqt1 ] | Oct 07 19:26 |
_Goblin | Bit coin is not wise to mention around the conspiracy folk....its mysterious beginnings are to do with a "new world order" or something like that... | Oct 07 19:34 |
MinceR | https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_776225eed68bbb5ffbcd.jpeg | Oct 07 19:59 |
iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/google-berners-lee-alliance-broadband-africa | Oct 07 20:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Google and Sir Tim Berners-Lee lead coalition for cheaper internet | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzc ] | Oct 07 20:04 |
iophk | Affordable but not open? | Oct 07 20:04 |
iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-groups-demand-pirate-bay-blockade-in-iceland-131007/ | Oct 07 20:08 |
TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Copyright Groups Demand Pirate Bay Blockade in Iceland | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzs ] | Oct 07 20:08 |
iophk | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/windows-phone-htc-licence-fee-128881 | Oct 07 20:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Willing To Let HTC USe Windows Phone For Free [ http://ur1.ca/fur0a ] | Oct 07 20:10 |
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MinceR | that still doesn't quite reach the value of winblows phone | Oct 07 21:16 |
Sosumi | M$ hemorraging money = good | Oct 07 21:24 |
MinceR | if they'd pay HTC lots for each winblows phone, yes | Oct 07 21:26 |
MinceR | it would be even better if it was similar to their licensing, i.e. paid for every cpu sold, regardless of whether it's running winblows or not | Oct 07 21:26 |
Sosumi | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_ending_support_for_meego_and_symbian_january_1-news-6923.php | Oct 07 22:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.gsmarena.com | Nokia ending support for MeeGo and Symbian January 1 - GSMArena.com news [ http://ur1.ca/furk0 ] | Oct 07 22:03 |
Sosumi | Elop should be run over by a truck | Oct 07 22:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I guess loads more go to Androdinstead | Oct 07 22:07 |
sebsebseb | and some toIphone | Oct 07 22:07 |
sebsebseb | and Ubutu Touch won't be out on ertian phones until next year it seems | Oct 07 22:07 |
sebsebseb | and Firefox Os is developing world and geeks | Oct 07 22:07 |
Sosumi | yes, there's options, but I actually like symbian | Oct 07 22:09 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Nokia = Microsoft now | Oct 07 22:09 |
sebsebseb | or pretty much | Oct 07 22:09 |
sebsebseb | they want Windows PHone out there, not these otherones | Oct 07 22:09 |
Sosumi | yeah | Oct 07 22:09 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: you may like Smybian but at the endof the day, its a project/product from a commericial company | Oct 07 22:10 |
sebsebseb | so when they decide to kil it, that's t realyl | Oct 07 22:10 |
Sosumi | well, also don't forget nokia had the best cameraphones around | Oct 07 22:10 |
sebsebseb | I don't know | Oct 07 22:11 |
Sosumi | it's just shamefull the way the company went | Oct 07 22:11 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ,buts seems maybe so going by a coment on that ink | Oct 07 22:11 |
MinceR | symbian jumped the shark with mandatory app signing | Oct 07 22:12 |
Sosumi | that I don't know | Oct 07 22:14 |
Sosumi | but for now on the only viable option is "pure" android | Oct 07 22:14 |
Sosumi | even I'm waiting for the nexus 5 despite it's week battery | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yeah the only main streame consumer Linux option will be Andorid | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | unles Ubuntu Phone hitsoff | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | well FIrefox OS may become main | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | well FIrefox OS may become main stremae in AFrica, but therest of the world nonot realy any time soon Iguess | Oct 07 22:15 |
Sosumi | to replace my E90 | Oct 07 22:15 |
sebsebseb | what's a E90 | Oct 07 22:16 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 22:16 |
Sosumi | nokia E90 | Oct 07 22:16 |
sebsebseb | no don't know what that is | Oct 07 22:17 |
Sosumi | it's one of those last communicator series from nokia | Oct 07 22:17 |
*sebsebseb feels a bit uh after all thoe crisps, and the mik shakeshm | Oct 07 22:17 | |
sebsebseb | I Thni | Oct 07 22:17 |
sebsebseb | I thinkit'st he crisps makng me feel uh though | Oct 07 22:18 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Do you know what Crisps are ? what country were you fromagain? | Oct 07 22:19 |
MinceR | is debian in a chroot on android impure? :> | Oct 07 22:19 |
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Sosumi | portugal | Oct 07 22:20 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ok | Oct 07 22:20 |
sebsebseb | and actsualy let's ask MinceR this one as well :d | Oct 07 22:20 |
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sebsebseb | and no chating to look up | Oct 07 22:20 |
sebsebseb | if your not sure | Oct 07 22:20 |
sebsebseb | plea | Oct 07 22:20 |
sebsebseb | no cheating | Oct 07 22:20 |
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sebsebseb | Sosumi: MinceR Do you know what crisps are? | Oct 07 22:21 |
Sosumi | potato chips? | Oct 07 22:21 |
sebsebseb | ok that was his answer | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | what's your | Oct 07 22:30 |
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sebsebseb | s MinceR | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | i think that's what brits call chips :> | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | yeah what they call chips in mainlandEurope or most of it hwatever | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | we call crisps | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | and we don't really say French fries | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | we say chips | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | they're belgian anyway :> | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | uh which is from Beligum > | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | fries | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | I don't know | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | that's all over the place really | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | it's just that about half of them speak french | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | oh ok | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | well Dutch and Frenh | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | and there's Flemish too | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | indeed | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | apparently Flemish is the common name for the Dutch language | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | and English of coure as an unoffical language | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | of the country | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | :D | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | there's a Fleish speaing part | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | andthen the dutchspeaing part | Oct 07 22:30 |
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sebsebseb | Brussues being in the dutch speaking part | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | oh yeah reminds me, I was thinking about booking my plane today forFOSDEM | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | so it's qutieearly | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | and cheap stil :d | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | coud have done that like two months ago | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | should still be cheap fo r those dates | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi nearly time fo me too go to a rather well Ubuntu ths and that, but not only event | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi to hopefully speak about Mageia :) | Oct 07 22:30 |
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sebsebseb | like wanted too do lat year, but now may just do a short one | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | hopineg to both ashort lightning talk and a longer my own room | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | :) | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | 5 minute LightningTalk on the mainstage | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | with timeforprobably 1 quesiton | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | seems ok | Oct 07 22:30 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi means I got ot sort out my slides | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | and this time round should do it eary enough! | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | make two lots of slides, for a lighting talk, and a longer tal | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | and then what happens happes I guess | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | ,but evenif I ony get to do the lightning talk, that's better than nothing | Oct 07 22:30 |
Sosumi | sebsebseb, turn into stallman whille you're at it | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | didn't reolie there was lightning talks lastyear | Oct 07 22:30 |
MinceR | :D | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: nope I can't, also Magiea in't quite considered free softwareonly distor | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | sine hwatever | Oct 07 22:30 |
sebsebseb | ,but neary | Oct 07 22:31 |
Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ | Oct 07 22:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/9z7ny ] | Oct 07 22:31 |
Sosumi | or at least do that | Oct 07 22:31 |
MinceR | is that important? | Oct 07 22:31 |
Sosumi | no, but epic | Oct 07 22:31 |
sebsebseb | I have seen the foot vide before | Oct 07 22:31 |
sebsebseb | I hae also spoke to Richard STallman monthsago | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but not qute how I wnated | Oct 07 22:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but ha well | Oct 07 22:32 |
Sosumi | well, in St. iGNUcious we trust | Oct 07 22:33 |
sebsebseb | well none of that in Android | Oct 07 22:33 |
sebsebseb | Android does have a special penguin inside it though | Oct 07 22:33 |
sebsebseb | ,but there's no couple | Oct 07 22:33 |
MinceR | i don't, i use vim :> | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | it's like the special penguin broke up with it's GNU, for Android | Oct 07 22:34 |
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sebsebseb | broken love | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | for Andorid anyway | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | weird relationshop hehheh | Oct 07 22:34 |
Sosumi | yeah, but android ins't that great because it's tied to google | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | Destop Inux etc they are tgether | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | ,but no no not Anroid | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | for soe reason they don't like eah | Oct 07 22:34 |
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sebsebseb | each other when it comes to Android | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | the alien | Oct 07 22:34 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: right bingo | Oct 07 22:35 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: and Symbian and Meego weren't that great either | Oct 07 22:35 |
sebsebseb | since they were tighed toNokia | Oct 07 22:35 |
sebsebseb | and then well your article | Oct 07 22:35 |
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Sosumi | nop, they weren't, but at least they weren't used by google in order to snoop on me | Oct 07 22:35 |
Sosumi | that's on what I wanted to get on when I mentioned the nexus 5 | Oct 07 22:36 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: watch out GOogle GLass is behind you | Oct 07 22:36 |
MinceR | they were tied to a non-m$ nokia, though | Oct 07 22:36 |
sebsebseb | watch out evene more so, if your using a public toilet and Google glass is around! | Oct 07 22:36 |
Sosumi | since the phone comes with the bootloader unlocked and android is free software | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | Google gass is scary | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | in a wya | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | Google Glass will turn peoe into Googl agents to | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | if it hti oss | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | off | Oct 07 22:37 |
sebsebseb | in fact it may b a bit ike the Matrix | Oct 07 22:37 |
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MinceR | they can be rooted | Oct 07 22:38 |
Sosumi | why not make a "security" enhanced android? with all the google stuff out | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | with the evil super computer being in Google etc | Oct 07 22:38 |
MinceR | Sosumi: i think it's called AOSP :> | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Google glass can be rooted? | Oct 07 22:38 |
MinceR | afaik it was already rooted long ago | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | so can gan root | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | anddo hwatever | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | withit | Oct 07 22:38 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 22:38 |
Sosumi | glass is waste | Oct 07 22:38 |
Sosumi | no steroscopic 3d view | Oct 07 22:39 |
MinceR | doesn't need it, it's just a HUD ;) | Oct 07 22:40 |
sebsebseb | a HUD ????? | Oct 07 22:40 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: watch ut, Google glass is right htere, and there and that person wearing it too etc, and hidden away in your home to a pair etc | Oct 07 22:40 |
Sosumi | heads up display | Oct 07 22:40 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: your every move well neary all going to GOogle | Oct 07 22:40 |
MinceR | Head-Up Display | Oct 07 22:40 |
sebsebseb | Google agents spying on Sosumi | Oct 07 22:41 |
Sosumi | just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they not out to get ya | Oct 07 22:41 |
Sosumi | *are | Oct 07 22:41 |
Sosumi | :) | Oct 07 22:41 |
sebsebseb | oh MinceR those people are following you with Google glass too oh and the Hungarian goverment made a deal with Google, and have access to all the Hungarian Google glass streas and well they are coming after you, since they don't like you since you want freedom, and use Linux, you can't hide, Google glass is all over, they are coming to get you, to put you under arrest for wanting freedom and using LInux | Oct 07 22:42 |
MinceR | joke is on them, glass runs linux | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: heh heh I was just typing n something about that :d | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | basicaly this: | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | no no you can't tell them that Google Glass uses Linux, and use that | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | it's about deskto linux etc | Oct 07 22:43 |
sebsebseb | your not allowed to have freedom using Desktop Linux in Hungary, it's illegal in the new HUn | Oct 07 22:44 |
sebsebseb | hungary adyou | Oct 07 22:44 |
sebsebseb | and to use a desktop or a laptop computer you must use Windows or Mac OS X | Oct 07 22:44 |
MinceR | i'll be gone before they get around to that | Oct 07 22:46 |
Sosumi | just embed a computer into a bathtub so you can can have a bathtub computer | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: so you said before, whe nI put something ike that | Oct 07 22:46 |
MinceR | or embed a bathtub into a computer | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | ,but non no | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | the borers will be bocked | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | a wall will come up against borders well for most parts | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | etc | Oct 07 22:46 |
sebsebseb | yu wil | Oct 07 22:46 |
MinceR | they can't afford walls | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | you willl be shot if attemtping to cross and caught as well | Oct 07 22:47 |
MinceR | they've spent all the money on stadia | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | on what? | Oct 07 22:47 |
MinceR | stadiums | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | football ? | Oct 07 22:47 |
MinceR | indeed | Oct 07 22:47 |
Sosumi | meh football | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | they willgo cheap an put machine guns that are autoaticalll detecting of peoleetc, in border crossings | Oct 07 22:47 |
sebsebseb | so either way you will most liely get shot | Oct 07 22:48 |
sebsebseb | automatiallicaly detecting of people | Oct 07 22:48 |
sebsebseb | uh net book keyboard | Oct 07 22:48 |
MinceR | that too will end my problems | Oct 07 22:48 |
MinceR | but it's another thing they can't afford anyway | Oct 07 22:48 |
sebsebseb | it will be like this film I saw, when Scoltand apparaty had a vius or whateve,r and then teh border crossing with Englad, a machine gun | Oct 07 22:48 |
sebsebseb | any detection of movement, and shoot, poor rabbit | Oct 07 22:49 |
MinceR | that's the uk and this is hungary | Oct 07 22:49 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: no no that was a film | Oct 07 22:49 |
sebsebseb | fiction | Oct 07 22:50 |
MinceR | hungary is stranger than fiction | Oct 07 22:50 |
sebsebseb | fiction make beie | Oct 07 22:50 |
MinceR | we're having trouble telling real news from fake news | Oct 07 22:50 |
sebsebseb | anyway watch out Sosumi is reallly a spy from your goverment | Oct 07 22:50 |
MinceR | this channel is publicly logged | Oct 07 22:50 |
sebsebseb | specificaly here too spy on you | Oct 07 22:50 |
Sosumi | I spy with my little, | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | yes, but een though the public logs, they want a witness of the ince | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | MinceR in here so they sent Sosumi | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | a Hungairan MinceR spy living in Portugal, heh heh | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | better watch out or may take some questionable pics of you | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | and demmand some ransom money | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | :) | Oct 07 22:51 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: of MinceR yeah | Oct 07 22:51 |
Sosumi | and of you | Oct 07 22:52 |
sebsebseb | yeah you black mail people | Oct 07 22:52 |
sebsebseb | you bad boy! | Oct 07 22:52 |
Sosumi | lol | Oct 07 22:53 |
Sosumi | but actually, I saw a guy very similar to you today at my university | Oct 07 22:53 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: uh you don't know what I look like | Oct 07 22:53 |
Sosumi | yes I do | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | unlless | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: well i was going to say | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | unless you saw my video | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | ,but | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | those slides..... | Oct 07 22:54 |
Sosumi | yeah the slides | Oct 07 22:54 |
Sosumi | from like back in may or so | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yeah that slide show was horrile | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I Think the talk got a bit messed up as a result | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | hence also why I don't want the site for the event too just link to them | Oct 07 22:54 |
sebsebseb | altough an option | Oct 07 22:55 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: plus I lost Mageia enthuusiasm at the time | Oct 07 22:55 |
sebsebseb | and tried to do something more general but hardwr than I Thought orwhtever | Oct 07 22:55 |
sebsebseb | no videos of those talks may hae been for beset this tie hmm | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | go back next year, and do something simiar and better :) | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh and speak at an event in just under two weeks :) | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | as I was saying | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | make sure slies are nicey done before even tralling to that city this time too | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | or done enough | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: get vidoed etc | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | get a bog ost written up | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | and yep :) | Oct 07 22:56 |
sebsebseb | put video onine as well ype | Oct 07 22:57 |
Sosumi | every time I had to present something | Oct 07 22:57 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yep chat at theat eevent that's coming up soon | Oct 07 22:57 |
sebsebseb | and then that one I went to again next year | Oct 07 22:57 |
Sosumi | usually ment going to the blackboard do some crazy calculus stuff | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | really want to d a really good talk next year and such | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: got a cub to hep me learn speaking skills ore, before the one I went too again | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | as well | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: what's nice is I get to do a short talk there t he day before tralvilng off to the city | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | for the one that's coming up oson | Oct 07 22:58 |
sebsebseb | should be speaking thre a short talk about something the day before so a kind of warm up in a wa then | Oct 07 22:59 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: what's also awesome is that got a awesome Magiea welcome screne new feature | Oct 07 22:59 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: that I can show and talk about :) | Oct 07 22:59 |
Sosumi | don't forget to show up as gandalf too | Oct 07 22:59 |
Sosumi | since mageia basically means magic | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | I am thinking Mageia 2 for the control centre screenshots | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | in Gnome and KDE | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | and then Mageia 4 Alpha 3 fo the welcoe screen, screenshots and well that looks like Mageia 3 at the moment | Oct 07 23:00 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I don't like the look of Mageia 3 much | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | and for my Lightning Talk not to bother with the Mageia 1 look | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | unles very quck | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | it lolks ugy too | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | paine I mean, and that release han't been supported for qutie a whie now | Oct 07 23:01 |
Sosumi | bash looks the same everywhere :P | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: KDE ad Gnome | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | look pretty much the same everywehre too | Oct 07 23:01 |
sebsebseb | and XCE and LXDE nad what not | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | slight chage of icons, and theme maybe, and that's about it | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | where icons go etc | Oct 07 23:02 |
Sosumi | kde with all those permanent notifications in their later releases is kind of dumb | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | ,but htose are upstrea projects | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: they want too see distro specific stuf more so | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | at the event I am going to | Oct 07 23:02 |
sebsebseb | it will be in front of loads of Linuxusers | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | well many Ubuntu users and such | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I'll do a talk about the community | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | how it's set up | Oct 07 23:03 |
sebsebseb | how we contribute to upstream projects to | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | so yeah like I did before for the LIghtning Talk then | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | and longer fo the other one etc if doinga longer one | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yep control centre, wecleom scree, event photos | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | the diagrom about how the projet is set up | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | and some talk about this and that, and that's that really | Oct 07 23:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: did you ever see my Lighting Talk ? | Oct 07 23:05 |
Sosumi | no | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Mageia Lightning Talk | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | findi t on Youtube | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | there's a eent descripton and the ink to slides too | Oct 07 23:05 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: so I plan to do a simia talk to that one, but at http://oggcamp.org | Oct 07 23:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | oggcamp.org | OggCamp | Oct 07 23:06 |
sebsebseb | to do a similar Lighting Talk at least | Oct 07 23:06 |
sebsebseb | ,but hopefuly can get my own room too, then can do one about going fro uer to contributer etc and why, that's longer | Oct 07 23:06 |
MinceR | gn | Oct 07 23:06 |
sebsebseb | !google Magiea Lightining Talk | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mageia Lightning Talk - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRo7UrIivYBo | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Mageia has been visiting Europe | Mageia Blog (English) | http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/07/17/mageia-has-been-visiting-europe/ | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - bjoernvold.com • View topic - Mageia 3 | http://bjoernvold.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D32%26t%3D2710%26start%3D12 | Oct 07 23:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - What so special about Mageia ? - SlideShare | http://www.slideshare.net/eurolinux/what-so-special-about-mageia | Oct 07 23:07 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: night | Oct 07 23:07 |
Sosumi | how many ppl fell asleep or burst into laughter? | Oct 07 23:07 |
Sosumi | :P | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: for the LIghtning Talk I did beore | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | oh it was good | Oct 07 23:08 |
Sosumi | I'm just joking | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: five guys or so coming up afterowulds wanting tofndout more | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: talking at that event this year, didn't seem to go that well | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | or welll the general talk anyway | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | the LUG one ok, but wnet over a bit | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | time wise | Oct 07 23:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I feel like I Need too go back next year, and really make sure, that I deliver really good talks when I do :) | Oct 07 23:09 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ,but yeah Liverpool in justunde two weeks :D | Oct 07 23:09 |
sebsebseb | should get to speak there this year too :) unike last year | Oct 07 23:10 |
Sosumi | that's nice | Oct 07 23:10 |
sebsebseb | so yeah got sides to sort out before then | Oct 07 23:10 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh and tommorwo I findout omething to, that's not related | Oct 07 23:10 |
Sosumi | well man, I'm exausted | Oct 07 23:14 |
Sosumi | and tomorrow the metro workers are on strike | Oct 07 23:15 |
Sosumi | so gn :) | Oct 07 23:15 |
DaemonFC | The US needs someone that has the authority to dismiss Congress and call new elections. | Oct 07 23:15 |
DaemonFC | This is really just about as low as I've ever seen Congress get. | Oct 07 23:16 |
DaemonFC | Most other countries would have dissolved their parliament if this kind of thing actually happened. | Oct 07 23:16 |
Sosumi | dissolve parliament and call in new elections... | Oct 07 23:17 |
Sosumi | but if obozo had any guts, all we'd need was to do an executive order scrapping the debt ceiling (like you said) and declare all gov essential | Oct 07 23:18 |
DaemonFC | Declare it all essential and not subject to shutdown, and then invoke the 14th Amendment. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | That would effectively neuter Congress. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | They'd never be able to bullshit us like this again. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | If they don't want to pay for a program, they shouldn't enact that program. | Oct 07 23:19 |
DaemonFC | They shouldn't be able to enact a program and then refuse to pay for it. | Oct 07 23:20 |
DaemonFC | If they want to repeal a program or specifically pass a law that changes the funding level, then that's a valid exercise. | Oct 07 23:20 |
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DaemonFC | But what they're doing is refusing to pay for anything, at all, even though they've passed programs and funding levels that have not been changed. | Oct 07 23:21 |
DaemonFC | The only thing they've been doing since the Republican minority took over is using the debt ceiling to threaten us with every six months or so. | Oct 07 23:22 |
DaemonFC | Sosumi, I think Obama will get to the point where he has to do what I said he should do. | Oct 07 23:23 |
DaemonFC | For political reasons, he needs to wait until Congress fails to act. | Oct 07 23:23 |
DaemonFC | Then he can declare an emergency and invoke his authority to ignore the debt ceiling. | Oct 07 23:23 |
DaemonFC | They might see that coming and agree to raise the debt ceiling to prevent him from setting that precedent. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | They know that if he ever gets that power, he'd never give it back. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | and neither would any other president | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | So he's doing the right thing for once. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | When he says there will be no negotiations under these circumstances. | Oct 07 23:24 |
DaemonFC | The other thing that might happen is the discharge petition. | Oct 07 23:27 |
DaemonFC | The Democrats in the House can force a vote to raise the debt ceiling if they can get enough Republicans to sign on to that. | Oct 07 23:28 |
DaemonFC | Then they'd only need to find 18 Republicans that would do that. Enough Republicans probably want this whole thing to go away so they don't lose their next election, that this might happen. | Oct 07 23:28 |
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schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144541 | Oct 07 05:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## Hate the "Sign in to Chrome" spyware feature of Chrome? | Oct 07 05:22 |
schestowitz_bed2 | "actually that would be step 0 :)" | Oct 07 05:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.chromium.org | Policy List - The Chromium Projects [ http://ur1.ca/funzf ] | Oct 07 05:22 |
schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144544 | Oct 07 05:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/we-are-terrifyingly-close-to-the-climates-point-of-no-return/280076/ what's terrifying is the success of the denial | Oct 07 05:22 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theatlantic.com | We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' - Eric Holthaus - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/fuko1 ] | Oct 07 05:22 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 05:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | There's no actual way to know. | Oct 07 05:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | And there's some ambiguity as to what is meant by a "point of no return." One point of return is the one beyond which we will have climate change. We have climate change, ergo, we have passed that one. | Oct 07 05:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Another point of no return is beyond which climate will change "irrevocably," and beyond which climate may change in unpredictable ways. There is no guarantee that the emergent system would be conducive to human (or non-human) life. | Oct 07 05:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | As I understand it, in order to "revoke" such changes, we would have to recreate the factors that produced the change to what we had in the recent past, that is, the factors in the change from the Paleolithic to the Neolithic. | Oct 07 05:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 05:23 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | My reasoning is that, with the thaw of ice/permafrost around the Arctic, we have reached the point where, even if we stop all our carbon burning today, the thawing clathrates will continue to release more than enough methane to continue and increase the current greenhouse effect. When all the easily-released methane is gone, the process will stop. | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | However, there is enough of it to more or less double the greenhouse effect from the existing atmospheric carbon load. | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Will some geoengineering project be able to offset all that greenhouse gas? I doubt it. | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Methane is bad stuff. In terms of global warming, it's about 20-25 times as potent as carbon dioxide. The good news, however, is that it breaks down relatively quickly. So it doesn't accumulate like carbon dioxide does. | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | Still, I don't think anyone knows just how much methane, in various forms, is locked up in the tundra and in Arctic sea beds that might be released in a thaw. | Oct 07 05:24 |
schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 07 05:24 |
iophk | A Venus-like atmosphere would be bad for most current multi-cellular life | Oct 07 05:32 |
oiaohm | iophk: exactly what is a Venus-like atmosphere good for fairly much nothing. | Oct 07 05:38 |
oiaohm | iophk: venus surface is rock melting hot. | Oct 07 05:39 |
iophk | Ours might not get rock-melting hotk, but it could potentially get way to hot for current land life. | Oct 07 05:39 |
iophk | http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/energy/methane-hydrates/ | Oct 07 05:40 |
TechrightsBot-tr | worldoceanreview.com | Methane hydrates World Ocean Review [ http://ur1.ca/fuo3g ] | Oct 07 05:41 |
iophk | There's a lot of methane in the water that could boil off if it gets too hot. That will in turn make it even hotter. | Oct 07 05:41 |
oiaohm | Yes the true point of no return. | Oct 07 05:41 |
oiaohm | The point of no return currently talked about is the point that is insanely hard to return from. | Oct 07 05:41 |
iophk | Most people aren't facing that. They're too used to laws and limits that can be bent or exceeded without consequence. | Oct 07 05:42 |
iophk | Pay a small fine and say "sorry" and all that. | Oct 07 05:42 |
iophk | Planets don't work that way. | Oct 07 05:42 |
oiaohm | The big worry is the melting Ice | Oct 07 05:43 |
oiaohm | But that was always a fairly much universal clock to the next ice age. | Oct 07 05:43 |
iophk | Yeah in the short term. | Oct 07 05:43 |
oiaohm | Earth is not Venus. | Oct 07 05:43 |
iophk | Florida is gone no matter what happens next. | Oct 07 05:43 |
oiaohm | Earth normal operation system is to self iceage itself. | Oct 07 05:44 |
oiaohm | Melt enough ice over heat get too much cloud then freeze our nuts off. | Oct 07 05:44 |
oiaohm | Normal earth cycle. | Oct 07 05:44 |
oiaohm | Of course the dieing creatures form a new oil resovers and that kind of things. | Oct 07 05:45 |
oiaohm | Basically Earth will reset it self. The question is can we live out the few thousand years required. | Oct 07 05:45 |
oiaohm | In fact what is the stuff up at the moment is a process called global dimming reducing water evaporation. | Oct 07 05:46 |
iophk | If the change is mild, like another ice age, there will be homids. | Oct 07 05:46 |
iophk | Civilization is much more fragile that that, though. | Oct 07 05:47 |
iophk | It's only a veneer. | Oct 07 05:47 |
iophk | and easily removed. | Oct 07 05:47 |
oiaohm | iophk: yes there were clivilzations before the last iceage that went by by. | Oct 07 05:50 |
iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/07/drm_html_5_point_1/ | Oct 07 05:59 |
iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052148/webs-gatekeepers-embrace-drm-for-next-html5-standard.html | Oct 07 05:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Web Daddy Berners-Lee DRMs HTML5 into 2016 The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7i ] | Oct 07 05:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Web's gatekeepers embrace DRM for next HTML5 standard | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7j ] | Oct 07 05:59 |
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iophk | old - http://www.thestreet.com/story/11958450/1/theres-no-question-now-apple-is-dead.html | Oct 07 06:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.thestreet.com | There's No Question Now: Apple is Dead - TheStreet [ http://ur1.ca/fuok0 ] | Oct 07 06:48 |
iophk | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24335517 | Oct 07 07:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Ace cafe with quite a nice ancient monument attached? [ http://ur1.ca/fuon9 ] | Oct 07 07:11 |
schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3148583 | Oct 07 07:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2013/10/libe-whistleblower-hearing-at-the-european-parliament.html #libe #privacy | Oct 07 07:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> anniemachon.ch | LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament - Using Our Intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/fuolt ] | Oct 07 07:12 |
schestowitz_bed2 | "Not so sure about their children ....... check up on some of the really greedy ones ......... They stop their children becoming as bad as themselves for some reason unknown to us ............ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=billionaires+children+problems&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0#hl=en&q=billionaires+children+inheritance" | Oct 07 07:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | billionaires children problems - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fuonf ] | Oct 07 07:12 |
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MinceR | http://xkcd.com/1274/ | Oct 07 09:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | xkcd.com | xkcd: Open Letter | Oct 07 09:07 |
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DaemonFC | I'm cashing out all my survey money as Amazon gift cards. | Oct 07 12:15 |
DaemonFC | By the time I'm done posting them to my account, I'll have enough to go in and get a free Chromebook. | Oct 07 12:16 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 07 12:16 |
DaemonFC | I'm told that the process for getting Fedora to run on one of those things isn't that hard. | Oct 07 12:16 |
*DaemonFC is still interested in that Crown Vic that needed a lot of repairs. | Oct 07 12:29 | |
DaemonFC | I'm going to just let it sit. Eventually they'll come down on the price some more or send it off to auction. | Oct 07 12:30 |
DaemonFC | It needs at least $1,200 worth of work to make it right, and that's just what I know about. | Oct 07 12:30 |
DaemonFC | It makes me mad because we were so close on price. Like, within $200-$300. | Oct 07 12:30 |
DaemonFC | But I've got to get it at the right price to make the repairs worth it. | Oct 07 12:31 |
DaemonFC | I was looking into a 2002 Lincoln Town Car but it sold before I could get down there. | Oct 07 12:34 |
DaemonFC | The guy said that there was a problem with the air ride suspension. Those cost a fortune to fix, but you can just replace them with the coil spring system meant for the Crown Victoria, and then it shouldn't ever be a problem again. | Oct 07 12:35 |
DaemonFC | http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=46750&mmt=[FORD[CROWNVIC[]][]LINC[LINCTC[]][]MERC[MERCGRAND[]][]]&modelCode1=CROWNVIC&makeCode2=LINC&modelCode2=LINCTC&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode3=MERCGRAND&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=67414707&makeCode3=MERC&searchRadius=50&bodyStyleCodes=SEDAN&listingId=352693481&listingIndex=6&Log=0 | Oct 07 12:37 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.autotrader.com | AutoTrader.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqch ] | Oct 07 12:37 |
DaemonFC | That would be alright. :) | Oct 07 12:37 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/ | Oct 07 14:08 |
DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 07 14:08 |
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TechrightsBot-tr | www.infowars.com | FBI unable to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from Silk Road operator Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! [ http://ur1.ca/fuqpq ] | Oct 07 14:08 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/ | Oct 07 14:08 |
DaemonFC | So really what this will amount to is taking 5% of all bitcoins permanently out of circulation. | Oct 07 14:09 |
DaemonFC | That will have the effect of making the remaining bitcoins worth more. | Oct 07 14:09 |
DaemonFC | The only way a currency can suffer from inflation is when there are more of them in circulation. | Oct 07 14:10 |
DaemonFC | You can create a billion dollars and it wouldn't have an inflationary effect until those dollars are actually circulating in the economy. | Oct 07 14:10 |
DaemonFC | If you put them in a safe and never spent them on anything, they wouldn't have an inflationary effect on the rest of the money supply. | Oct 07 14:11 |
DaemonFC | The Federal Reserve is actually falling short of its inflation goals because people are saving more than they used to. | Oct 07 14:11 |
DaemonFC | http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/07/supreme-court-new-term-virginia-sodomy | Oct 07 14:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Supreme court begins new term by throwing out Virginia sodomy law | Law | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqt1 ] | Oct 07 14:26 |
_Goblin | Bit coin is not wise to mention around the conspiracy folk....its mysterious beginnings are to do with a "new world order" or something like that... | Oct 07 14:34 |
MinceR | https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_776225eed68bbb5ffbcd.jpeg | Oct 07 14:59 |
iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/google-berners-lee-alliance-broadband-africa | Oct 07 15:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Google and Sir Tim Berners-Lee lead coalition for cheaper internet | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzc ] | Oct 07 15:04 |
iophk | Affordable but not open? | Oct 07 15:04 |
iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-groups-demand-pirate-bay-blockade-in-iceland-131007/ | Oct 07 15:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Copyright Groups Demand Pirate Bay Blockade in Iceland | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzs ] | Oct 07 15:08 |
iophk | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/windows-phone-htc-licence-fee-128881 | Oct 07 15:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Willing To Let HTC USe Windows Phone For Free [ http://ur1.ca/fur0a ] | Oct 07 15:10 |
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MinceR | that still doesn't quite reach the value of winblows phone | Oct 07 16:16 |
Sosumi | M$ hemorraging money = good | Oct 07 16:24 |
MinceR | if they'd pay HTC lots for each winblows phone, yes | Oct 07 16:26 |
MinceR | it would be even better if it was similar to their licensing, i.e. paid for every cpu sold, regardless of whether it's running winblows or not | Oct 07 16:26 |
Sosumi | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_ending_support_for_meego_and_symbian_january_1-news-6923.php | Oct 07 17:03 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.gsmarena.com | Nokia ending support for MeeGo and Symbian January 1 - GSMArena.com news [ http://ur1.ca/furk0 ] | Oct 07 17:03 |
Sosumi | Elop should be run over by a truck | Oct 07 17:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I guess loads more go to Androdinstead | Oct 07 17:06 |
sebsebseb | and some toIphone | Oct 07 17:07 |
sebsebseb | and Ubutu Touch won't be out on ertian phones until next year it seems | Oct 07 17:07 |
sebsebseb | and Firefox Os is developing world and geeks | Oct 07 17:07 |
Sosumi | yes, there's options, but I actually like symbian | Oct 07 17:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Nokia = Microsoft now | Oct 07 17:09 |
sebsebseb | or pretty much | Oct 07 17:09 |
sebsebseb | they want Windows PHone out there, not these otherones | Oct 07 17:09 |
Sosumi | yeah | Oct 07 17:09 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: you may like Smybian but at the endof the day, its a project/product from a commericial company | Oct 07 17:10 |
sebsebseb | so when they decide to kil it, that's t realyl | Oct 07 17:10 |
Sosumi | well, also don't forget nokia had the best cameraphones around | Oct 07 17:10 |
sebsebseb | I don't know | Oct 07 17:11 |
Sosumi | it's just shamefull the way the company went | Oct 07 17:11 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ,buts seems maybe so going by a coment on that ink | Oct 07 17:11 |
MinceR | symbian jumped the shark with mandatory app signing | Oct 07 17:12 |
Sosumi | that I don't know | Oct 07 17:14 |
Sosumi | but for now on the only viable option is "pure" android | Oct 07 17:14 |
Sosumi | even I'm waiting for the nexus 5 despite it's week battery | Oct 07 17:15 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yeah the only main streame consumer Linux option will be Andorid | Oct 07 17:15 |
sebsebseb | unles Ubuntu Phone hitsoff | Oct 07 17:15 |
sebsebseb | well FIrefox OS may become main | Oct 07 17:15 |
sebsebseb | well FIrefox OS may become main stremae in AFrica, but therest of the world nonot realy any time soon Iguess | Oct 07 17:15 |
Sosumi | to replace my E90 | Oct 07 17:15 |
sebsebseb | what's a E90 | Oct 07 17:16 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 17:16 |
Sosumi | nokia E90 | Oct 07 17:16 |
sebsebseb | no don't know what that is | Oct 07 17:17 |
Sosumi | it's one of those last communicator series from nokia | Oct 07 17:17 |
*sebsebseb feels a bit uh after all thoe crisps, and the mik shakeshm | Oct 07 17:17 | |
sebsebseb | I Thni | Oct 07 17:17 |
sebsebseb | I thinkit'st he crisps makng me feel uh though | Oct 07 17:18 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Do you know what Crisps are ? what country were you fromagain? | Oct 07 17:19 |
MinceR | is debian in a chroot on android impure? :> | Oct 07 17:19 |
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Sosumi | portugal | Oct 07 17:20 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ok | Oct 07 17:20 |
sebsebseb | and actsualy let's ask MinceR this one as well :d | Oct 07 17:20 |
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sebsebseb | and no chating to look up | Oct 07 17:20 |
sebsebseb | if your not sure | Oct 07 17:20 |
sebsebseb | plea | Oct 07 17:20 |
sebsebseb | no cheating | Oct 07 17:20 |
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sebsebseb | Sosumi: MinceR Do you know what crisps are? | Oct 07 17:21 |
Sosumi | potato chips? | Oct 07 17:21 |
sebsebseb | ok that was his answer | Oct 07 17:21 |
sebsebseb | what's your | Oct 07 17:21 |
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sebsebseb | s MinceR | Oct 07 17:21 |
MinceR | i think that's what brits call chips :> | Oct 07 17:21 |
sebsebseb | yeah what they call chips in mainlandEurope or most of it hwatever | Oct 07 17:22 |
sebsebseb | we call crisps | Oct 07 17:22 |
sebsebseb | and we don't really say French fries | Oct 07 17:22 |
sebsebseb | we say chips | Oct 07 17:22 |
MinceR | they're belgian anyway :> | Oct 07 17:22 |
sebsebseb | uh which is from Beligum > | Oct 07 17:22 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 17:22 |
MinceR | fries | Oct 07 17:22 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 17:23 |
sebsebseb | I don't know | Oct 07 17:23 |
sebsebseb | that's all over the place really | Oct 07 17:23 |
MinceR | it's just that about half of them speak french | Oct 07 17:23 |
sebsebseb | oh ok | Oct 07 17:24 |
sebsebseb | well Dutch and Frenh | Oct 07 17:24 |
sebsebseb | and there's Flemish too | Oct 07 17:24 |
MinceR | indeed | Oct 07 17:24 |
MinceR | apparently Flemish is the common name for the Dutch language | Oct 07 17:24 |
sebsebseb | and English of coure as an unoffical language | Oct 07 17:24 |
sebsebseb | of the country | Oct 07 17:24 |
sebsebseb | :D | Oct 07 17:24 |
sebsebseb | there's a Fleish speaing part | Oct 07 17:24 |
sebsebseb | andthen the dutchspeaing part | Oct 07 17:25 |
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sebsebseb | Brussues being in the dutch speaking part | Oct 07 17:25 |
sebsebseb | oh yeah reminds me, I was thinking about booking my plane today forFOSDEM | Oct 07 17:25 |
sebsebseb | so it's qutieearly | Oct 07 17:25 |
sebsebseb | and cheap stil :d | Oct 07 17:25 |
sebsebseb | coud have done that like two months ago | Oct 07 17:25 |
sebsebseb | should still be cheap fo r those dates | Oct 07 17:25 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi nearly time fo me too go to a rather well Ubuntu ths and that, but not only event | Oct 07 17:28 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi to hopefully speak about Mageia :) | Oct 07 17:28 |
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sebsebseb | like wanted too do lat year, but now may just do a short one | Oct 07 17:28 |
sebsebseb | hopineg to both ashort lightning talk and a longer my own room | Oct 07 17:29 |
MinceR | :) | Oct 07 17:29 |
sebsebseb | 5 minute LightningTalk on the mainstage | Oct 07 17:29 |
sebsebseb | with timeforprobably 1 quesiton | Oct 07 17:29 |
sebsebseb | seems ok | Oct 07 17:29 |
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sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi means I got ot sort out my slides | Oct 07 17:29 |
sebsebseb | and this time round should do it eary enough! | Oct 07 17:30 |
sebsebseb | make two lots of slides, for a lighting talk, and a longer tal | Oct 07 17:30 |
sebsebseb | and then what happens happes I guess | Oct 07 17:30 |
sebsebseb | ,but evenif I ony get to do the lightning talk, that's better than nothing | Oct 07 17:30 |
Sosumi | sebsebseb, turn into stallman whille you're at it | Oct 07 17:30 |
sebsebseb | didn't reolie there was lightning talks lastyear | Oct 07 17:30 |
MinceR | :D | Oct 07 17:30 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: nope I can't, also Magiea in't quite considered free softwareonly distor | Oct 07 17:30 |
sebsebseb | sine hwatever | Oct 07 17:30 |
sebsebseb | ,but neary | Oct 07 17:30 |
Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ | Oct 07 17:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/9z7ny ] | Oct 07 17:31 |
Sosumi | or at least do that | Oct 07 17:31 |
MinceR | is that important? | Oct 07 17:31 |
Sosumi | no, but epic | Oct 07 17:31 |
sebsebseb | I have seen the foot vide before | Oct 07 17:31 |
sebsebseb | I hae also spoke to Richard STallman monthsago | Oct 07 17:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but not qute how I wnated | Oct 07 17:32 |
sebsebseb | ,but ha well | Oct 07 17:32 |
Sosumi | well, in St. iGNUcious we trust | Oct 07 17:32 |
sebsebseb | well none of that in Android | Oct 07 17:33 |
sebsebseb | Android does have a special penguin inside it though | Oct 07 17:33 |
sebsebseb | ,but there's no couple | Oct 07 17:33 |
MinceR | i don't, i use vim :> | Oct 07 17:34 |
sebsebseb | it's like the special penguin broke up with it's GNU, for Android | Oct 07 17:34 |
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sebsebseb | broken love | Oct 07 17:34 |
sebsebseb | for Andorid anyway | Oct 07 17:34 |
sebsebseb | weird relationshop hehheh | Oct 07 17:34 |
Sosumi | yeah, but android ins't that great because it's tied to google | Oct 07 17:34 |
sebsebseb | Destop Inux etc they are tgether | Oct 07 17:34 |
sebsebseb | ,but no no not Anroid | Oct 07 17:34 |
sebsebseb | for soe reason they don't like eah | Oct 07 17:34 |
sebsebseb | each other when it comes to Android | Oct 07 17:34 |
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sebsebseb | the alien | Oct 07 17:34 |
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sebsebseb | Sosumi: right bingo | Oct 07 17:35 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: and Symbian and Meego weren't that great either | Oct 07 17:35 |
sebsebseb | since they were tighed toNokia | Oct 07 17:35 |
sebsebseb | and then well your article | Oct 07 17:35 |
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Sosumi | nop, they weren't, but at least they weren't used by google in order to snoop on me | Oct 07 17:35 |
Sosumi | that's on what I wanted to get on when I mentioned the nexus 5 | Oct 07 17:36 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: watch out GOogle GLass is behind you | Oct 07 17:36 |
MinceR | they were tied to a non-m$ nokia, though | Oct 07 17:36 |
sebsebseb | watch out evene more so, if your using a public toilet and Google glass is around! | Oct 07 17:36 |
Sosumi | since the phone comes with the bootloader unlocked and android is free software | Oct 07 17:37 |
sebsebseb | Google gass is scary | Oct 07 17:37 |
sebsebseb | in a wya | Oct 07 17:37 |
sebsebseb | Google Glass will turn peoe into Googl agents to | Oct 07 17:37 |
sebsebseb | if it hti oss | Oct 07 17:37 |
sebsebseb | off | Oct 07 17:37 |
sebsebseb | in fact it may b a bit ike the Matrix | Oct 07 17:37 |
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MinceR | they can be rooted | Oct 07 17:37 |
Sosumi | why not make a "security" enhanced android? with all the google stuff out | Oct 07 17:38 |
sebsebseb | with the evil super computer being in Google etc | Oct 07 17:38 |
MinceR | Sosumi: i think it's called AOSP :> | Oct 07 17:38 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: Google glass can be rooted? | Oct 07 17:38 |
MinceR | afaik it was already rooted long ago | Oct 07 17:38 |
sebsebseb | so can gan root | Oct 07 17:38 |
sebsebseb | anddo hwatever | Oct 07 17:38 |
sebsebseb | withit | Oct 07 17:38 |
sebsebseb | ? | Oct 07 17:38 |
Sosumi | glass is waste | Oct 07 17:38 |
Sosumi | no steroscopic 3d view | Oct 07 17:39 |
MinceR | doesn't need it, it's just a HUD ;) | Oct 07 17:39 |
sebsebseb | a HUD ????? | Oct 07 17:40 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: watch ut, Google glass is right htere, and there and that person wearing it too etc, and hidden away in your home to a pair etc | Oct 07 17:40 |
Sosumi | heads up display | Oct 07 17:40 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: your every move well neary all going to GOogle | Oct 07 17:40 |
MinceR | Head-Up Display | Oct 07 17:40 |
sebsebseb | Google agents spying on Sosumi | Oct 07 17:40 |
Sosumi | just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they not out to get ya | Oct 07 17:41 |
Sosumi | *are | Oct 07 17:41 |
Sosumi | :) | Oct 07 17:41 |
sebsebseb | oh MinceR those people are following you with Google glass too oh and the Hungarian goverment made a deal with Google, and have access to all the Hungarian Google glass streas and well they are coming after you, since they don't like you since you want freedom, and use Linux, you can't hide, Google glass is all over, they are coming to get you, to put you under arrest for wanting freedom and using LInux | Oct 07 17:42 |
MinceR | joke is on them, glass runs linux | Oct 07 17:43 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: heh heh I was just typing n something about that :d | Oct 07 17:43 |
sebsebseb | basicaly this: | Oct 07 17:43 |
sebsebseb | no no you can't tell them that Google Glass uses Linux, and use that | Oct 07 17:43 |
sebsebseb | it's about deskto linux etc | Oct 07 17:43 |
sebsebseb | your not allowed to have freedom using Desktop Linux in Hungary, it's illegal in the new HUn | Oct 07 17:44 |
sebsebseb | hungary adyou | Oct 07 17:44 |
sebsebseb | and to use a desktop or a laptop computer you must use Windows or Mac OS X | Oct 07 17:44 |
MinceR | i'll be gone before they get around to that | Oct 07 17:46 |
Sosumi | just embed a computer into a bathtub so you can can have a bathtub computer | Oct 07 17:46 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: so you said before, whe nI put something ike that | Oct 07 17:46 |
MinceR | or embed a bathtub into a computer | Oct 07 17:46 |
sebsebseb | ,but non no | Oct 07 17:46 |
sebsebseb | the borers will be bocked | Oct 07 17:46 |
sebsebseb | a wall will come up against borders well for most parts | Oct 07 17:46 |
sebsebseb | etc | Oct 07 17:46 |
sebsebseb | yu wil | Oct 07 17:46 |
MinceR | they can't afford walls | Oct 07 17:46 |
sebsebseb | you willl be shot if attemtping to cross and caught as well | Oct 07 17:47 |
MinceR | they've spent all the money on stadia | Oct 07 17:47 |
sebsebseb | on what? | Oct 07 17:47 |
MinceR | stadiums | Oct 07 17:47 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 17:47 |
sebsebseb | football ? | Oct 07 17:47 |
MinceR | indeed | Oct 07 17:47 |
Sosumi | meh football | Oct 07 17:47 |
sebsebseb | they willgo cheap an put machine guns that are autoaticalll detecting of peoleetc, in border crossings | Oct 07 17:47 |
sebsebseb | so either way you will most liely get shot | Oct 07 17:47 |
sebsebseb | automatiallicaly detecting of people | Oct 07 17:48 |
sebsebseb | uh net book keyboard | Oct 07 17:48 |
MinceR | that too will end my problems | Oct 07 17:48 |
MinceR | but it's another thing they can't afford anyway | Oct 07 17:48 |
sebsebseb | it will be like this film I saw, when Scoltand apparaty had a vius or whateve,r and then teh border crossing with Englad, a machine gun | Oct 07 17:48 |
sebsebseb | any detection of movement, and shoot, poor rabbit | Oct 07 17:49 |
MinceR | that's the uk and this is hungary | Oct 07 17:49 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: no no that was a film | Oct 07 17:49 |
sebsebseb | fiction | Oct 07 17:49 |
MinceR | hungary is stranger than fiction | Oct 07 17:50 |
sebsebseb | fiction make beie | Oct 07 17:50 |
MinceR | we're having trouble telling real news from fake news | Oct 07 17:50 |
sebsebseb | anyway watch out Sosumi is reallly a spy from your goverment | Oct 07 17:50 |
MinceR | this channel is publicly logged | Oct 07 17:50 |
sebsebseb | specificaly here too spy on you | Oct 07 17:50 |
Sosumi | I spy with my little, | Oct 07 17:51 |
sebsebseb | yes, but een though the public logs, they want a witness of the ince | Oct 07 17:51 |
sebsebseb | MinceR in here so they sent Sosumi | Oct 07 17:51 |
sebsebseb | a Hungairan MinceR spy living in Portugal, heh heh | Oct 07 17:51 |
Sosumi | better watch out or may take some questionable pics of you | Oct 07 17:51 |
Sosumi | and demmand some ransom money | Oct 07 17:51 |
Sosumi | :) | Oct 07 17:51 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: of MinceR yeah | Oct 07 17:51 |
Sosumi | and of you | Oct 07 17:52 |
sebsebseb | yeah you black mail people | Oct 07 17:52 |
sebsebseb | you bad boy! | Oct 07 17:52 |
Sosumi | lol | Oct 07 17:53 |
Sosumi | but actually, I saw a guy very similar to you today at my university | Oct 07 17:53 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: uh you don't know what I look like | Oct 07 17:53 |
Sosumi | yes I do | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | unlless | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | oh | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: well i was going to say | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | unless you saw my video | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | ,but | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | those slides..... | Oct 07 17:54 |
Sosumi | yeah the slides | Oct 07 17:54 |
Sosumi | from like back in may or so | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yeah that slide show was horrile | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I Think the talk got a bit messed up as a result | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | hence also why I don't want the site for the event too just link to them | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | altough an option | Oct 07 17:54 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: plus I lost Mageia enthuusiasm at the time | Oct 07 17:55 |
sebsebseb | and tried to do something more general but hardwr than I Thought orwhtever | Oct 07 17:55 |
sebsebseb | no videos of those talks may hae been for beset this tie hmm | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | go back next year, and do something simiar and better :) | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh and speak at an event in just under two weeks :) | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | as I was saying | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | make sure slies are nicey done before even tralling to that city this time too | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | or done enough | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: get vidoed etc | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | get a bog ost written up | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | and yep :) | Oct 07 17:56 |
sebsebseb | put video onine as well ype | Oct 07 17:56 |
Sosumi | every time I had to present something | Oct 07 17:57 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yep chat at theat eevent that's coming up soon | Oct 07 17:57 |
sebsebseb | and then that one I went to again next year | Oct 07 17:57 |
Sosumi | usually ment going to the blackboard do some crazy calculus stuff | Oct 07 17:57 |
sebsebseb | really want to d a really good talk next year and such | Oct 07 17:58 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: got a cub to hep me learn speaking skills ore, before the one I went too again | Oct 07 17:58 |
sebsebseb | as well | Oct 07 17:58 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: what's nice is I get to do a short talk there t he day before tralvilng off to the city | Oct 07 17:58 |
sebsebseb | for the one that's coming up oson | Oct 07 17:58 |
sebsebseb | should be speaking thre a short talk about something the day before so a kind of warm up in a wa then | Oct 07 17:59 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: what's also awesome is that got a awesome Magiea welcome screne new feature | Oct 07 17:59 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: that I can show and talk about :) | Oct 07 17:59 |
Sosumi | don't forget to show up as gandalf too | Oct 07 17:59 |
Sosumi | since mageia basically means magic | Oct 07 18:00 |
sebsebseb | I am thinking Mageia 2 for the control centre screenshots | Oct 07 18:00 |
sebsebseb | in Gnome and KDE | Oct 07 18:00 |
sebsebseb | and then Mageia 4 Alpha 3 fo the welcoe screen, screenshots and well that looks like Mageia 3 at the moment | Oct 07 18:00 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I don't like the look of Mageia 3 much | Oct 07 18:00 |
sebsebseb | and for my Lightning Talk not to bother with the Mageia 1 look | Oct 07 18:01 |
sebsebseb | unles very quck | Oct 07 18:01 |
sebsebseb | it lolks ugy too | Oct 07 18:01 |
sebsebseb | paine I mean, and that release han't been supported for qutie a whie now | Oct 07 18:01 |
Sosumi | bash looks the same everywhere :P | Oct 07 18:01 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: KDE ad Gnome | Oct 07 18:01 |
sebsebseb | look pretty much the same everywehre too | Oct 07 18:01 |
sebsebseb | and XCE and LXDE nad what not | Oct 07 18:02 |
sebsebseb | slight chage of icons, and theme maybe, and that's about it | Oct 07 18:02 |
sebsebseb | where icons go etc | Oct 07 18:02 |
Sosumi | kde with all those permanent notifications in their later releases is kind of dumb | Oct 07 18:02 |
sebsebseb | ,but htose are upstrea projects | Oct 07 18:02 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: they want too see distro specific stuf more so | Oct 07 18:02 |
sebsebseb | at the event I am going to | Oct 07 18:02 |
sebsebseb | it will be in front of loads of Linuxusers | Oct 07 18:03 |
sebsebseb | well many Ubuntu users and such | Oct 07 18:03 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I'll do a talk about the community | Oct 07 18:03 |
sebsebseb | how it's set up | Oct 07 18:03 |
sebsebseb | how we contribute to upstream projects to | Oct 07 18:03 |
sebsebseb | so yeah like I did before for the LIghtning Talk then | Oct 07 18:04 |
sebsebseb | and longer fo the other one etc if doinga longer one | Oct 07 18:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: yep control centre, wecleom scree, event photos | Oct 07 18:04 |
sebsebseb | the diagrom about how the projet is set up | Oct 07 18:04 |
sebsebseb | and some talk about this and that, and that's that really | Oct 07 18:04 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: did you ever see my Lighting Talk ? | Oct 07 18:04 |
Sosumi | no | Oct 07 18:05 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: Mageia Lightning Talk | Oct 07 18:05 |
sebsebseb | findi t on Youtube | Oct 07 18:05 |
sebsebseb | there's a eent descripton and the ink to slides too | Oct 07 18:05 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: so I plan to do a simia talk to that one, but at http://oggcamp.org | Oct 07 18:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | oggcamp.org | OggCamp | Oct 07 18:06 |
sebsebseb | to do a similar Lighting Talk at least | Oct 07 18:06 |
sebsebseb | ,but hopefuly can get my own room too, then can do one about going fro uer to contributer etc and why, that's longer | Oct 07 18:06 |
MinceR | gn | Oct 07 18:06 |
sebsebseb | !google Magiea Lightining Talk | Oct 07 18:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mageia Lightning Talk - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRo7UrIivYBo | Oct 07 18:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Mageia has been visiting Europe | Mageia Blog (English) | http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/07/17/mageia-has-been-visiting-europe/ | Oct 07 18:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - bjoernvold.com View topic - Mageia 3 | http://bjoernvold.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D32%26t%3D2710%26start%3D12 | Oct 07 18:07 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - What so special about Mageia ? - SlideShare | http://www.slideshare.net/eurolinux/what-so-special-about-mageia | Oct 07 18:07 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: night | Oct 07 18:07 |
Sosumi | how many ppl fell asleep or burst into laughter? | Oct 07 18:07 |
Sosumi | :P | Oct 07 18:07 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: for the LIghtning Talk I did beore | Oct 07 18:08 |
sebsebseb | oh it was good | Oct 07 18:08 |
Sosumi | I'm just joking | Oct 07 18:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: five guys or so coming up afterowulds wanting tofndout more | Oct 07 18:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: talking at that event this year, didn't seem to go that well | Oct 07 18:08 |
sebsebseb | or welll the general talk anyway | Oct 07 18:08 |
sebsebseb | the LUG one ok, but wnet over a bit | Oct 07 18:08 |
sebsebseb | time wise | Oct 07 18:08 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: I feel like I Need too go back next year, and really make sure, that I deliver really good talks when I do :) | Oct 07 18:09 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: ,but yeah Liverpool in justunde two weeks :D | Oct 07 18:09 |
sebsebseb | should get to speak there this year too :) unike last year | Oct 07 18:10 |
Sosumi | that's nice | Oct 07 18:10 |
sebsebseb | so yeah got sides to sort out before then | Oct 07 18:10 |
sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh and tommorwo I findout omething to, that's not related | Oct 07 18:10 |
Sosumi | well man, I'm exausted | Oct 07 18:14 |
Sosumi | and tomorrow the metro workers are on strike | Oct 07 18:15 |
Sosumi | so gn :) | Oct 07 18:15 |
DaemonFC | The US needs someone that has the authority to dismiss Congress and call new elections. | Oct 07 18:15 |
DaemonFC | This is really just about as low as I've ever seen Congress get. | Oct 07 18:16 |
DaemonFC | Most other countries would have dissolved their parliament if this kind of thing actually happened. | Oct 07 18:16 |
Sosumi | dissolve parliament and call in new elections... | Oct 07 18:17 |
Sosumi | but if obozo had any guts, all we'd need was to do an executive order scrapping the debt ceiling (like you said) and declare all gov essential | Oct 07 18:18 |
DaemonFC | Declare it all essential and not subject to shutdown, and then invoke the 14th Amendment. | Oct 07 18:19 |
DaemonFC | That would effectively neuter Congress. | Oct 07 18:19 |
DaemonFC | They'd never be able to bullshit us like this again. | Oct 07 18:19 |
DaemonFC | If they don't want to pay for a program, they shouldn't enact that program. | Oct 07 18:19 |
DaemonFC | They shouldn't be able to enact a program and then refuse to pay for it. | Oct 07 18:20 |
DaemonFC | If they want to repeal a program or specifically pass a law that changes the funding level, then that's a valid exercise. | Oct 07 18:20 |
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DaemonFC | But what they're doing is refusing to pay for anything, at all, even though they've passed programs and funding levels that have not been changed. | Oct 07 18:21 |
DaemonFC | The only thing they've been doing since the Republican minority took over is using the debt ceiling to threaten us with every six months or so. | Oct 07 18:22 |
DaemonFC | Sosumi, I think Obama will get to the point where he has to do what I said he should do. | Oct 07 18:23 |
DaemonFC | For political reasons, he needs to wait until Congress fails to act. | Oct 07 18:23 |
DaemonFC | Then he can declare an emergency and invoke his authority to ignore the debt ceiling. | Oct 07 18:23 |
DaemonFC | They might see that coming and agree to raise the debt ceiling to prevent him from setting that precedent. | Oct 07 18:24 |
DaemonFC | They know that if he ever gets that power, he'd never give it back. | Oct 07 18:24 |
DaemonFC | and neither would any other president | Oct 07 18:24 |
DaemonFC | So he's doing the right thing for once. | Oct 07 18:24 |
DaemonFC | When he says there will be no negotiations under these circumstances. | Oct 07 18:24 |
DaemonFC | The other thing that might happen is the discharge petition. | Oct 07 18:27 |
DaemonFC | The Democrats in the House can force a vote to raise the debt ceiling if they can get enough Republicans to sign on to that. | Oct 07 18:28 |
DaemonFC | Then they'd only need to find 18 Republicans that would do that. Enough Republicans probably want this whole thing to go away so they don't lose their next election, that this might happen. | Oct 07 18:28 |
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