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iophkhttp://www.zdnet.com/valve-details-specs-for-linux-based-steam-machine-prototype-gaming-pcs-7000021607/Oct 07 09:07
TechrightsBot-trwww.zdnet.com | Valve details specs for Linux-based Steam Machine prototype gaming PCs | ZDNet  [ http://ur1.ca/funjb ]Oct 07 09:07
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144541Oct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## Hate the "Sign in to Chrome" spyware feature of Chrome?Oct 07 10:22
schestowitz_bed2"actually that would be step 0 :)"Oct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.chromium.org | Policy List - The Chromium Projects  [ http://ur1.ca/funzf ]Oct 07 10:22
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144544Oct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/we-are-terrifyingly-close-to-the-climates-point-of-no-return/280076/ what's terrifying is the success of the denialOct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theatlantic.com | We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' - Eric Holthaus - The Atlantic  [ http://ur1.ca/fuko1 ]Oct 07 10:22
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2There's no actual way to know.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2And there's some ambiguity as to what is meant by a "point of no return." One point of return is the one beyond which we will have climate change. We have climate change, ergo, we have passed that one.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2Another point of no return is beyond which climate will change "irrevocably," and beyond which climate may change in unpredictable ways. There is no guarantee that the emergent system would be conducive to human (or non-human) life.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2As I understand it, in order to "revoke" such changes, we would have to recreate the factors that produced the change to what we had in the recent past, that is, the factors in the change from the Paleolithic to the Neolithic.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2My reasoning is that, with the thaw of ice/permafrost around the Arctic, we have reached the point where, even if we stop all our carbon burning today, the thawing clathrates will continue to release more than enough methane to continue and increase the current greenhouse effect. When all the easily-released methane is gone, the process will stop.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2However, there is enough of it to more or less double the greenhouse effect from the existing atmospheric carbon load.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2Will some geoengineering project be able to offset all that greenhouse gas? I doubt it.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2Methane is bad stuff. In terms of global warming, it's about 20-25 times as potent as carbon dioxide. The good news, however, is that it breaks down relatively quickly. So it doesn't accumulate like carbon dioxide does.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2Still, I don't think anyone knows just how much methane, in various forms, is locked up in the tundra and in Arctic sea beds that might be released in a thaw.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
iophkA Venus-like atmosphere would be bad for most current multi-cellular lifeOct 07 10:32
oiaohmiophk: exactly what is a Venus-like atmosphere good for fairly much nothing.Oct 07 10:38
oiaohmiophk: venus surface is rock melting hot.Oct 07 10:39
iophkOurs might not get rock-melting hotk, but it could potentially get way to hot for current land  life.Oct 07 10:39
iophkhttp://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/energy/methane-hydrates/Oct 07 10:40
TechrightsBot-trworldoceanreview.com | Methane hydrates «  World Ocean Review  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo3g ]Oct 07 10:41
iophkThere's a lot of methane in the water that could boil off if it gets too hot.  That will in turn make it even hotter.Oct 07 10:41
oiaohmYes the true point of no return.Oct 07 10:41
oiaohmThe point of no return currently talked about is the point that is insanely hard to return from.Oct 07 10:41
iophkMost people aren't facing that.  They're too used to laws and limits that can be bent or exceeded without consequence.Oct 07 10:42
iophkPay a small fine and say "sorry" and all that.Oct 07 10:42
iophkPlanets don't work that way.Oct 07 10:42
oiaohmThe big worry is the melting IceOct 07 10:43
oiaohmBut that was always a fairly much universal clock to the next ice age.Oct 07 10:43
iophkYeah in the short term.  Oct 07 10:43
oiaohmEarth is not Venus.Oct 07 10:43
iophkFlorida is gone no matter what happens next.Oct 07 10:43
oiaohmEarth normal operation system is to self iceage itself.Oct 07 10:44
oiaohmMelt enough ice over heat get too much cloud then freeze our nuts off.Oct 07 10:44
oiaohmNormal earth cycle.Oct 07 10:44
oiaohmOf course the dieing creatures form a new oil resovers and that kind of things.Oct 07 10:45
oiaohmBasically Earth will reset it self.  The question is can we live out the few thousand years required.Oct 07 10:45
oiaohmIn fact what is the stuff up at the moment is a process called global dimming reducing water evaporation.Oct 07 10:46
iophkIf the change is mild, like another ice age, there will be homids. Oct 07 10:46
iophkCivilization is much more fragile that that, though.Oct 07 10:47
iophkIt's only a veneer.Oct 07 10:47
iophkand easily removed.Oct 07 10:47
oiaohmiophk: yes there were clivilzations before the last iceage that went by by.Oct 07 10:50
iophkhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/07/drm_html_5_point_1/Oct 07 10:59
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2052148/webs-gatekeepers-embrace-drm-for-next-html5-standard.htmlOct 07 10:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Web Daddy Berners-Lee DRMs HTML5 into 2016 • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7i ]Oct 07 10:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Web's gatekeepers embrace DRM for next HTML5 standard | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7j ]Oct 07 10:59
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iophkold - http://www.thestreet.com/story/11958450/1/theres-no-question-now-apple-is-dead.htmlOct 07 11:48
TechrightsBot-trwww.thestreet.com | There's No Question Now: Apple is Dead - TheStreet  [ http://ur1.ca/fuok0 ]Oct 07 11:48
iophkhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24335517Oct 07 12:11
TechrightsBot-trwww.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Ace cafe with quite a nice ancient monument attached?  [ http://ur1.ca/fuon9 ]Oct 07 12:11
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3148583Oct 07 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2013/10/libe-whistleblower-hearing-at-the-european-parliament.html #libe #privacyOct 07 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> anniemachon.ch | LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament - Using Our Intelligence  [ http://ur1.ca/fuolt ]Oct 07 12:12
schestowitz_bed2"Not so sure about their children ....... check up on some of the really greedy ones ......... They stop their children becoming as bad as themselves for some reason unknown to us ............ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=billionaires+children+problems&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0#hl=en&q=billionaires+children+inheritance"Oct 07 12:12
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | billionaires children problems - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/fuonf ]Oct 07 12:12
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MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/1274/Oct 07 14:07
TechrightsBot-trxkcd.com | xkcd: Open LetterOct 07 14:07
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DaemonFCI'm cashing out all my survey money as Amazon gift cards.Oct 07 17:15
DaemonFCBy the time I'm done posting them to my account, I'll have enough to go in and get a free Chromebook.Oct 07 17:16
DaemonFCB-)Oct 07 17:16
DaemonFCI'm told that the process for getting Fedora to run on one of those things isn't that hard.Oct 07 17:16
*DaemonFC is still interested in that Crown Vic that needed a lot of repairs.Oct 07 17:29
DaemonFCI'm going to just let it sit. Eventually they'll come down on the price some more or send it off to auction.Oct 07 17:30
DaemonFCIt needs at least $1,200 worth of work to make it right, and that's just what I know about.Oct 07 17:30
DaemonFCIt makes me mad because we were so close on price. Like, within $200-$300.Oct 07 17:30
DaemonFCBut I've got to get it at the right price to make the repairs worth it.Oct 07 17:31
DaemonFCI was looking into a 2002 Lincoln Town Car but it sold before I could get down there.Oct 07 17:34
DaemonFCThe guy said that there was a problem with the air ride suspension. Those cost a fortune to fix, but you can just replace them with the coil spring system meant for the Crown Victoria, and then it shouldn't ever be a problem again.Oct 07 17:35
DaemonFChttp://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=46750&mmt=[FORD[CROWNVIC[]][]LINC[LINCTC[]][]MERC[MERCGRAND[]][]]&modelCode1=CROWNVIC&makeCode2=LINC&modelCode2=LINCTC&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode3=MERCGRAND&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=67414707&makeCode3=MERC&searchRadius=50&bodyStyleCodes=SEDAN&listingId=352693481&listingIndex=6&Log=0Oct 07 17:37
TechrightsBot-trwww.autotrader.com | AutoTrader.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqch ]Oct 07 17:37
DaemonFCThat would be alright. :)Oct 07 17:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/Oct 07 19:08
DaemonFCLOLOct 07 19:08
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TechrightsBot-trwww.infowars.com | » FBI unable to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from Silk Road operator Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqpq ]Oct 07 19:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/Oct 07 19:08
DaemonFCSo really what this will amount to is taking 5% of all bitcoins permanently out of circulation.Oct 07 19:09
DaemonFCThat will have the effect of making the remaining bitcoins worth more.Oct 07 19:09
DaemonFCThe only way a currency can suffer from inflation is when there are more of them in circulation.Oct 07 19:10
DaemonFCYou can create a billion dollars and it wouldn't have an inflationary effect until those dollars are actually circulating in the economy.Oct 07 19:10
DaemonFCIf you put them in a safe and never spent them on anything, they wouldn't have an inflationary effect on the rest of the money supply.Oct 07 19:11
DaemonFCThe Federal Reserve is actually falling short of its inflation goals because people are saving more than they used to.Oct 07 19:11
DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/07/supreme-court-new-term-virginia-sodomyOct 07 19:26
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Supreme court begins new term by throwing out Virginia sodomy law | Law | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqt1 ]Oct 07 19:26
_GoblinBit coin is not wise to mention around the conspiracy folk....its mysterious beginnings are to do with a "new world order" or something like that...Oct 07 19:34
MinceRhttps://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_776225eed68bbb5ffbcd.jpegOct 07 19:59
iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/google-berners-lee-alliance-broadband-africaOct 07 20:04
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Google and Sir Tim Berners-Lee lead coalition for cheaper internet | Technology | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzc ]Oct 07 20:04
iophkAffordable but not open?Oct 07 20:04
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/copyright-groups-demand-pirate-bay-blockade-in-iceland-131007/Oct 07 20:08
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Copyright Groups Demand Pirate Bay Blockade in Iceland | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzs ]Oct 07 20:08
iophkhttp://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/windows-phone-htc-licence-fee-128881Oct 07 20:10
TechrightsBot-trwww.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Willing To Let HTC USe Windows Phone For Free  [ http://ur1.ca/fur0a ]Oct 07 20:10
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MinceRthat still doesn't quite reach the value of winblows phoneOct 07 21:16
SosumiM$ hemorraging money = goodOct 07 21:24
MinceRif they'd pay HTC lots for each winblows phone, yesOct 07 21:26
MinceRit would be even better if it was similar to their licensing, i.e. paid for every cpu sold, regardless of whether it's running winblows or notOct 07 21:26
Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_ending_support_for_meego_and_symbian_january_1-news-6923.phpOct 07 22:03
TechrightsBot-trwww.gsmarena.com | Nokia ending support for MeeGo and Symbian January 1 - GSMArena.com news  [ http://ur1.ca/furk0 ]Oct 07 22:03
SosumiElop should be run over by a truckOct 07 22:04
sebsebsebSosumi: I guess loads more go to AndrodinsteadOct 07 22:06
sebsebseband some toIphoneOct 07 22:07
sebsebseband Ubutu Touch won't be out on ertian phones until next year it seemsOct 07 22:07
sebsebseband Firefox Os is developing world and geeksOct 07 22:07
Sosumiyes, there's options, but I actually like symbianOct 07 22:08
sebsebsebSosumi: Nokia = Microsoft nowOct 07 22:09
sebsebsebor pretty muchOct 07 22:09
sebsebsebthey want Windows PHone out there, not these otheronesOct 07 22:09
SosumiyeahOct 07 22:09
sebsebsebSosumi: you may like Smybian but at the endof the day, its a project/product from a commericial companyOct 07 22:10
sebsebsebso when they decide to kil it, that's t realylOct 07 22:10
Sosumiwell, also don't forget nokia had the best cameraphones aroundOct 07 22:10
sebsebsebI don't knowOct 07 22:11
Sosumiit's just shamefull the way the company wentOct 07 22:11
sebsebsebSosumi: ,buts seems maybe so going by a coment on that inkOct 07 22:11
MinceRsymbian jumped the shark with mandatory app signingOct 07 22:12
Sosumithat I don't knowOct 07 22:14
Sosumibut for now on the only viable option is "pure" androidOct 07 22:14
Sosumieven I'm waiting for the nexus 5 despite it's week batteryOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebSosumi: yeah the only main streame consumer Linux option will be AndoridOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebunles Ubuntu Phone hitsoffOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebwell FIrefox OS  may become mainOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebwell FIrefox OS may become main stremae in AFrica, but therest of the world nonot realy any time soon IguessOct 07 22:15
Sosumito replace my E90Oct 07 22:15
sebsebsebwhat's a E90 Oct 07 22:16
sebsebseb?Oct 07 22:16
Sosuminokia E90Oct 07 22:16
sebsebsebno don't know what that isOct 07 22:28
Sosumiit's one of those last communicator series from nokiaOct 07 22:28
*sebsebseb feels a bit uh after all thoe crisps, and the mik shakeshmOct 07 22:28
sebsebsebI ThniOct 07 22:28
sebsebsebI thinkit'st he crisps makng me feel uh thoughOct 07 22:28
sebsebsebSosumi: Do  you know what Crisps are ?  what country were you fromagain?Oct 07 22:29
MinceRis debian in a chroot on android impure? :>Oct 07 22:29
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SosumiportugalOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebSosumi: okOct 07 22:29
sebsebseband actsualy let's ask MinceR  this one as well :dOct 07 22:29
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sebsebseband no chating to look upOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebif your not sureOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebpleaOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebno cheatingOct 07 22:29
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sebsebsebSosumi: MinceR  Do you know what crisps are?Oct 07 22:29
Sosumipotato chips?Oct 07 22:29
sebsebsebok that was his answerOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebwhat's your Oct 07 22:29
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sebsebsebs  MinceROct 07 22:29
MinceRi think that's what brits call chips :>Oct 07 22:29
sebsebsebyeah what they call chips in mainlandEurope or most of it hwateverOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebwe call crispsOct 07 22:29
sebsebseband we don't really say French friesOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebwe say chipsOct 07 22:29
MinceRthey're belgian anyway :>Oct 07 22:29
sebsebsebuh which is from Beligum >Oct 07 22:29
sebsebseb?Oct 07 22:29
MinceRfriesOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebohOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebI don't knowOct 07 22:29
sebsebsebthat's all over the place reallyOct 07 22:29
MinceRit's just that about half of them speak frenchOct 07 22:32
sebsebseboh  okOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebwell  Dutch and FrenhOct 07 22:32
sebsebseband there's Flemish tooOct 07 22:32
MinceRindeedOct 07 22:32
MinceRapparently Flemish is the common name for the Dutch languageOct 07 22:32
sebsebseband English of coure as an unoffical languageOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebof the countryOct 07 22:32
sebsebseb:DOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebthere's a Fleish speaing partOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebandthen the dutchspeaing partOct 07 22:32
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sebsebsebBrussues being in the dutch speaking partOct 07 22:32
sebsebseboh yeah reminds me,  I was thinking about booking my plane today forFOSDEMOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebso it's qutieearlyOct 07 22:32
sebsebseband cheap stil :dOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebcoud have done that like two months agoOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebshould still be cheap fo r those datesOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi nearly time fo me too go to a rather well  Ubuntu ths and that, but  not only eventOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi to hopefully speak about Mageia :)Oct 07 22:32
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sebsebseblike wanted too do lat year,  but now  may just do  a short oneOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebhopineg to both ashort lightning talk  and a longer my own roomOct 07 22:32
MinceR:)Oct 07 22:32
sebsebseb5 minute LightningTalk on the mainstageOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebwith timeforprobably 1 quesitonOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebseems okOct 07 22:32
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sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi means I got ot sort out my slidesOct 07 22:32
sebsebseband this time round should do it eary enough!Oct 07 22:32
sebsebsebmake two lots of slides, for a lighting talk, and a longer talOct 07 22:32
sebsebseband then  what happens happes I guessOct 07 22:32
sebsebseb,but evenif I ony get to do the lightning talk, that's better than nothingOct 07 22:32
Sosumisebsebseb, turn into stallman whille you're at itOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebdidn't reolie there was lightning talks lastyearOct 07 22:32
MinceR:DOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebSosumi: nope I can't,  also Magiea  in't  quite considered free softwareonly distorOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebsine hwateverOct 07 22:32
sebsebseb,but nearyOct 07 22:32
Sosumihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQOct 07 22:32
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/9z7ny ]Oct 07 22:32
Sosumior at least do thatOct 07 22:32
MinceRis that important?Oct 07 22:32
Sosumino, but epicOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebI have seen the foot vide beforeOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebI hae also spoke to Richard STallman monthsagoOct 07 22:32
sebsebseb,but not qute how I wnatedOct 07 22:32
sebsebseb,but ha wellOct 07 22:32
Sosumiwell, in St. iGNUcious we trustOct 07 22:32
sebsebsebwell none of that in AndroidOct 07 22:33
sebsebsebAndroid does have a special penguin inside it thoughOct 07 22:33
sebsebseb,but there's no coupleOct 07 22:33
MinceRi don't, i use vim :>Oct 07 22:34
sebsebsebit's like the special penguin broke up with it's GNU, for AndroidOct 07 22:34
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sebsebsebbroken loveOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebfor Andorid anywayOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebweird relationshop hehhehOct 07 22:34
Sosumiyeah, but android ins't that great because it's tied to googleOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebDestop Inux etc they are tgetherOct 07 22:34
sebsebseb,but no no not AnroidOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebfor soe reason they  don't like eahOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebeach other when it comes to AndroidOct 07 22:34
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sebsebsebthe alienOct 07 22:34
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sebsebsebSosumi: right bingoOct 07 22:35
sebsebsebSosumi: and Symbian and Meego weren't that great eitherOct 07 22:35
sebsebsebsince they were tighed toNokiaOct 07 22:35
sebsebseband  then well your articleOct 07 22:35
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Sosuminop, they weren't, but at least they weren't used by google in order to snoop on meOct 07 22:35
Sosumithat's on what I wanted to get on when I mentioned the nexus 5Oct 07 22:36
sebsebsebSosumi: watch out GOogle GLass is behind youOct 07 22:36
MinceRthey were tied to a non-m$ nokia, thoughOct 07 22:36
sebsebsebwatch out evene more so,  if your using a public toilet and Google glass is around!Oct 07 22:36
Sosumisince the phone comes with the bootloader unlocked and android is free softwareOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebGoogle gass is scary Oct 07 22:37
sebsebsebin a wyaOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebGoogle Glass  will turn peoe into Googl agents toOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebif it hti ossOct 07 22:37
sebsebseboffOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebin fact it may b a bit ike the MatrixOct 07 22:37
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MinceRthey can be rootedOct 07 22:37
Sosumiwhy not make a "security" enhanced android? with all the google stuff outOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebwith the evil super computer being in   Google etcOct 07 22:38
MinceRSosumi: i think it's called AOSP :>Oct 07 22:38
sebsebsebMinceR: Google glass can be rooted?Oct 07 22:38
MinceRafaik it was already rooted long agoOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebso can gan rootOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebanddo hwateverOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebwithitOct 07 22:38
sebsebseb?Oct 07 22:38
Sosumiglass is wasteOct 07 22:38
Sosumino steroscopic 3d viewOct 07 22:39
MinceRdoesn't need it, it's just a HUD ;)Oct 07 22:39
sebsebseba HUD ?????Oct 07 22:40
sebsebsebSosumi: watch ut, Google glass is right htere, and there and that person wearing it too etc, and hidden away in your home to a pair etcOct 07 22:40
Sosumiheads up displayOct 07 22:40
sebsebsebSosumi: your every move well neary all going to GOogleOct 07 22:40
MinceRHead-Up DisplayOct 07 22:40
sebsebsebGoogle agents spying on SosumiOct 07 22:40
Sosumijust because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they not out to get yaOct 07 22:41
Sosumi*areOct 07 22:41
Sosumi:)Oct 07 22:41
sebsebseboh MinceR  those people are following you with Google glass too   oh and  the Hungarian goverment made a deal with Google, and have access to all the Hungarian Google  glass streas   and well they are coming after you, since they don't like you since you want freedom, and use Linux,  you can't hide, Google glass is all over, they are coming to get you, to put you under arrest for wanting freedom and using LInuxOct 07 22:42
MinceRjoke is on them, glass runs linuxOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebMinceR: heh heh I was just typing n something about that :dOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebbasicaly this:Oct 07 22:43
sebsebsebno no you can't tell them that Google Glass uses Linux, and  use thatOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebit's about deskto linux etcOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebyour not allowed to have freedom  using Desktop Linux in Hungary, it's illegal in the new HUnOct 07 22:44
sebsebsebhungary adyou Oct 07 22:44
sebsebseband to use a desktop or a laptop computer you must use  Windows or Mac OS XOct 07 22:44
MinceRi'll be gone before they get around to thatOct 07 22:46
Sosumijust embed a computer into a bathtub so you can can have a bathtub computerOct 07 22:46
sebsebsebMinceR: so  you said before, whe nI put something ike thatOct 07 22:46
MinceRor embed a bathtub into a computerOct 07 22:46
sebsebseb,but non no Oct 07 22:46
sebsebsebthe borers will be bockedOct 07 22:46
sebsebseba  wall will come up against borders well  for most partsOct 07 22:46
sebsebsebetcOct 07 22:46
sebsebsebyu wilOct 07 22:46
MinceRthey can't afford wallsOct 07 22:46
sebsebsebyou willl be shot if attemtping to cross and caught as wellOct 07 22:47
MinceRthey've spent all the money on stadiaOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebon what?Oct 07 22:47
MinceRstadiumsOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebohOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebfootball ?Oct 07 22:47
MinceRindeedOct 07 22:47
Sosumimeh footballOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebthey willgo cheap an put machine guns that are autoaticalll  detecting of peoleetc, in border crossingsOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebso either way you will  most liely get shotOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebautomatiallicaly detecting of peopleOct 07 22:48
sebsebsebuh net book keyboardOct 07 22:48
MinceRthat too will end my problemsOct 07 22:48
MinceRbut it's another thing they can't afford anywayOct 07 22:48
sebsebsebit will be like this  film I saw, when Scoltand apparaty had a vius or whateve,r  and then teh  border crossing with Englad,  a machine gunOct 07 22:48
sebsebsebany detection of movement, and shoot, poor rabbitOct 07 22:49
MinceRthat's the uk and this is hungaryOct 07 22:49
sebsebsebMinceR: no no that was a filmOct 07 22:49
sebsebsebfictionOct 07 22:49
MinceRhungary is stranger than fictionOct 07 22:50
sebsebsebfiction make beieOct 07 22:50
MinceRwe're having trouble telling real news from fake newsOct 07 22:50
sebsebsebanyway watch out  Sosumi is reallly a spy from your govermentOct 07 22:50
MinceRthis channel is publicly loggedOct 07 22:50
sebsebsebspecificaly here  too spy on youOct 07 22:50
SosumiI spy with my little,Oct 07 22:51
sebsebsebyes, but een though the public logs, they want a witness of the inceOct 07 22:51
sebsebsebMinceR in here so they sent SosumiOct 07 22:51
sebsebseba Hungairan MinceR spy living in Portugal, heh hehOct 07 22:51
Sosumibetter watch out or may take some questionable pics of youOct 07 22:51
Sosumiand demmand some ransom money Oct 07 22:51
Sosumi:)Oct 07 22:51
sebsebsebSosumi: of MinceR yeah Oct 07 22:51
Sosumiand of youOct 07 22:52
sebsebsebyeah you black mail peopleOct 07 22:52
sebsebsebyou bad boy!Oct 07 22:52
SosumilolOct 07 22:53
Sosumibut actually, I saw a guy very similar to you today at my universityOct 07 22:53
sebsebsebSosumi: uh you don't know what I look likeOct 07 22:53
Sosumiyes I doOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebunllessOct 07 22:54
sebsebseboh Oct 07 22:54
sebsebsebSosumi: well i  was going to sayOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebunless you saw my videoOct 07 22:54
sebsebseb,butOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebthose slides.....Oct 07 22:54
Sosumiyeah the slidesOct 07 22:54
Sosumifrom like back in may or soOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebSosumi: yeah that slide show was horrileOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebSosumi: I Think the talk got a bit messed up as a resultOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebhence also why I don't want the site for the event  too just link to themOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebaltough an optionOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebSosumi: plus  I lost  Mageia enthuusiasm at the timeOct 07 22:55
sebsebseband  tried to do something more general but hardwr than I Thought orwhteverOct 07 22:55
sebsebsebno videos of those talks may hae been for beset this tie hmmOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebgo back next year, and do something simiar and better :)Oct 07 22:56
sebsebsebSosumi: oh and speak  at an event in just under two weeks :)Oct 07 22:56
sebsebsebas I was sayingOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebmake sure slies are nicey done before even tralling to that city this time tooOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebor done enoughOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebSosumi: get vidoed etcOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebget a bog ost written upOct 07 22:56
sebsebseband  yep :)Oct 07 22:56
sebsebsebput video onine as well ypeOct 07 22:56
Sosumievery time I had to present somethingOct 07 22:57
sebsebsebSosumi: yep chat at theat eevent that's coming up soonOct 07 22:57
sebsebseband then that one I went to again next yearOct 07 22:57
Sosumiusually ment going to the blackboard do some crazy calculus stuffOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebreally want to d a really good talk next year and suchOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebSosumi: got a cub to hep me learn speaking skills ore, before the one I went too againOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebas wellOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebSosumi: what's nice is I get to do a short talk there  t he day before tralvilng off to the cityOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebfor the one that's coming up osonOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebshould be speaking thre a short talk about something  the day before so a kind of warm up in a wa thenOct 07 22:59
sebsebsebSosumi: what's also awesome is that got a awesome Magiea welcome screne new featureOct 07 22:59
sebsebsebSosumi: that I can show and talk about :)Oct 07 22:59
Sosumidon't forget to show up as gandalf tooOct 07 22:59
Sosumisince mageia basically means magicOct 07 23:00
sebsebsebI am thinking Mageia  2  for the control centre screenshotsOct 07 23:00
sebsebsebin  Gnome and KDEOct 07 23:00
sebsebseband then Mageia 4 Alpha 3 fo the welcoe screen, screenshots and well that looks like Mageia 3 at the momentOct 07 23:00
sebsebsebSosumi: I don't like the look of Mageia 3 muchOct 07 23:00
sebsebseband for my Lightning Talk not to bother with the Mageia 1 lookOct 07 23:01
sebsebsebunles very quckOct 07 23:01
sebsebsebit lolks ugy tooOct 07 23:01
sebsebsebpaine I mean, and that release han't been supported for qutie a whie nowOct 07 23:01
Sosumibash looks the same everywhere :POct 07 23:01
sebsebsebSosumi: KDE ad GnomeOct 07 23:01
sebsebseblook pretty much the same everywehre tooOct 07 23:01
sebsebseband XCE  and LXDE nad what notOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebslight chage of icons, and theme maybe, and that's about itOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebwhere icons go etcOct 07 23:02
Sosumikde with all those permanent notifications in their later releases is kind of dumbOct 07 23:02
sebsebseb,but htose are upstrea projectsOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebSosumi: they want too see distro specific stuf more soOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebat the event I am going toOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebit will be in front of loads of LinuxusersOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebwell many Ubuntu users and suchOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebSosumi: I'll do a talk about the communityOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebhow  it's set upOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebhow we contribute to upstream projects toOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebso yeah like I did before for the LIghtning Talk thenOct 07 23:04
sebsebseband longer fo the other one etc if doinga longer oneOct 07 23:04
sebsebsebSosumi: yep  control centre, wecleom scree, event photosOct 07 23:04
sebsebsebthe diagrom about how the projet is set upOct 07 23:04
sebsebseband  some talk about this and that, and that's that reallyOct 07 23:04
sebsebsebSosumi: did you ever see my Lighting Talk ?Oct 07 23:05
SosuminoOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebSosumi: Mageia Lightning TalkOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebfindi t on YoutubeOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebthere's a eent descripton and the ink to slides tooOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebSosumi: so I plan to do a simia talk to that one, but at http://oggcamp.orgOct 07 23:06
TechrightsBot-troggcamp.org | OggCampOct 07 23:06
sebsebsebto do a  similar Lighting Talk at leastOct 07 23:06
sebsebseb,but hopefuly can get my own room too, then can do one about going fro uer to contributer etc and why, that's longerOct 07 23:06
MinceRgnOct 07 23:06
sebsebseb!google Magiea Lightining TalkOct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mageia Lightning Talk - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRo7UrIivYBoOct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mageia has been visiting Europe | Mageia Blog (English) | http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/07/17/mageia-has-been-visiting-europe/Oct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - bjoernvold.com • View topic - Mageia 3 | http://bjoernvold.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D32%26t%3D2710%26start%3D12Oct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What so special about Mageia ? - SlideShare | http://www.slideshare.net/eurolinux/what-so-special-about-mageiaOct 07 23:07
sebsebsebMinceR: nightOct 07 23:07
Sosumihow many ppl fell asleep or burst into laughter? Oct 07 23:07
Sosumi:POct 07 23:07
sebsebsebSosumi: for the LIghtning Talk I did beoreOct 07 23:08
sebsebseboh it was goodOct 07 23:08
SosumiI'm just jokingOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebSosumi: five guys or so coming up afterowulds wanting tofndout moreOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebSosumi: talking at that event this year, didn't seem to go that wellOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebor  welll  the general talk anywayOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebthe LUG one ok, but wnet over a bitOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebtime wiseOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebSosumi: I feel like I Need too go back next year, and really make sure, that I deliver really good talks when I do :)Oct 07 23:09
sebsebsebSosumi: ,but yeah Liverpool in justunde two weeks :DOct 07 23:09
sebsebsebshould get to speak there this year too :)  unike last yearOct 07 23:10
Sosumithat's niceOct 07 23:10
sebsebsebso yeah got sides to sort out before thenOct 07 23:10
sebsebsebSosumi: oh and tommorwo I findout omething to, that's  not relatedOct 07 23:10
Sosumiwell man, I'm exaustedOct 07 23:14
Sosumiand tomorrow the metro workers are on strikeOct 07 23:15
Sosumiso gn :)Oct 07 23:15
DaemonFCThe US needs someone that has the authority to dismiss Congress and call new elections.Oct 07 23:15
DaemonFCThis is really just about as low as I've ever seen Congress get.Oct 07 23:16
DaemonFCMost other countries would have dissolved their parliament if this kind of thing actually happened.Oct 07 23:16
Sosumidissolve parliament and call in new elections...Oct 07 23:17
Sosumibut if obozo had any guts, all we'd need was to do an executive order scrapping the debt ceiling (like you said) and declare all gov essentialOct 07 23:18
DaemonFCDeclare it all essential and not subject to shutdown, and then invoke the 14th Amendment.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCThat would effectively neuter Congress.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCThey'd never be able to bullshit us like this again.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCIf they don't want to pay for a program, they shouldn't enact that program.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCThey shouldn't be able to enact a program and then refuse to pay for it.Oct 07 23:20
DaemonFCIf they want to repeal a program or specifically pass a law that changes the funding level, then that's a valid exercise.Oct 07 23:20
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DaemonFCBut what they're doing is refusing to pay for anything, at all, even though they've passed programs and funding levels that have not been changed.Oct 07 23:21
DaemonFCThe only thing they've been doing since the Republican minority took over is using the debt ceiling to threaten us with every six months or so.Oct 07 23:22
DaemonFCSosumi, I think Obama will get to the point where he has to do what I said he should do.Oct 07 23:23
DaemonFCFor political reasons, he needs to wait until Congress fails to act.Oct 07 23:23
DaemonFCThen he can declare an emergency and invoke his authority to ignore the debt ceiling.Oct 07 23:23
DaemonFCThey might see that coming and agree to raise the debt ceiling to prevent him from setting that precedent.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCThey know that if he ever gets that power, he'd never give it back.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCand neither would any other presidentOct 07 23:24
DaemonFCSo he's doing the right thing for once.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCWhen he says there will be no negotiations under these circumstances.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCThe other thing that might happen is the discharge petition.Oct 07 23:27
DaemonFCThe Democrats in the House can force a vote to raise the debt ceiling if they can get enough Republicans to sign on to that.Oct 07 23:28
DaemonFCThen they'd only need to find 18 Republicans that would do that. Enough Republicans probably want this whole thing to go away so they don't lose their next election, that this might happen.Oct 07 23:28
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iophkhttp://www.zdnet.com/valve-details-specs-for-linux-based-steam-machine-prototype-gaming-pcs-7000021607/Oct 07 09:07
TechrightsBot-trwww.zdnet.com | Valve details specs for Linux-based Steam Machine prototype gaming PCs | ZDNet  [ http://ur1.ca/funjb ]Oct 07 09:07
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144541Oct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## Hate the "Sign in to Chrome" spyware feature of Chrome?Oct 07 10:22
schestowitz_bed2"actually that would be step 0 :)"Oct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.chromium.org | Policy List - The Chromium Projects  [ http://ur1.ca/funzf ]Oct 07 10:22
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144544Oct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/we-are-terrifyingly-close-to-the-climates-point-of-no-return/280076/ what's terrifying is the success of the denialOct 07 10:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theatlantic.com | We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' - Eric Holthaus - The Atlantic  [ http://ur1.ca/fuko1 ]Oct 07 10:22
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2There's no actual way to know.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2And there's some ambiguity as to what is meant by a "point of no return." One point of return is the one beyond which we will have climate change. We have climate change, ergo, we have passed that one.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2Another point of no return is beyond which climate will change "irrevocably," and beyond which climate may change in unpredictable ways. There is no guarantee that the emergent system would be conducive to human (or non-human) life.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2As I understand it, in order to "revoke" such changes, we would have to recreate the factors that produced the change to what we had in the recent past, that is, the factors in the change from the Paleolithic to the Neolithic.Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:23
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2My reasoning is that, with the thaw of ice/permafrost around the Arctic, we have reached the point where, even if we stop all our carbon burning today, the thawing clathrates will continue to release more than enough methane to continue and increase the current greenhouse effect. When all the easily-released methane is gone, the process will stop.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2However, there is enough of it to more or less double the greenhouse effect from the existing atmospheric carbon load.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2Will some geoengineering project be able to offset all that greenhouse gas? I doubt it.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2Methane is bad stuff. In terms of global warming, it's about 20-25 times as potent as carbon dioxide. The good news, however, is that it breaks down relatively quickly. So it doesn't accumulate like carbon dioxide does.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2Still, I don't think anyone knows just how much methane, in various forms, is locked up in the tundra and in Arctic sea beds that might be released in a thaw.Oct 07 10:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 10:24
iophkA Venus-like atmosphere would be bad for most current multi-cellular lifeOct 07 10:32
oiaohmiophk: exactly what is a Venus-like atmosphere good for fairly much nothing.Oct 07 10:38
oiaohmiophk: venus surface is rock melting hot.Oct 07 10:39
iophkOurs might not get rock-melting hotk, but it could potentially get way to hot for current land  life.Oct 07 10:39
iophkhttp://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/energy/methane-hydrates/Oct 07 10:40
TechrightsBot-trworldoceanreview.com | Methane hydrates «  World Ocean Review  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo3g ]Oct 07 10:41
iophkThere's a lot of methane in the water that could boil off if it gets too hot.  That will in turn make it even hotter.Oct 07 10:41
oiaohmYes the true point of no return.Oct 07 10:41
oiaohmThe point of no return currently talked about is the point that is insanely hard to return from.Oct 07 10:41
iophkMost people aren't facing that.  They're too used to laws and limits that can be bent or exceeded without consequence.Oct 07 10:42
iophkPay a small fine and say "sorry" and all that.Oct 07 10:42
iophkPlanets don't work that way.Oct 07 10:42
oiaohmThe big worry is the melting IceOct 07 10:43
oiaohmBut that was always a fairly much universal clock to the next ice age.Oct 07 10:43
iophkYeah in the short term.  Oct 07 10:43
oiaohmEarth is not Venus.Oct 07 10:43
iophkFlorida is gone no matter what happens next.Oct 07 10:43
oiaohmEarth normal operation system is to self iceage itself.Oct 07 10:44
oiaohmMelt enough ice over heat get too much cloud then freeze our nuts off.Oct 07 10:44
oiaohmNormal earth cycle.Oct 07 10:44
oiaohmOf course the dieing creatures form a new oil resovers and that kind of things.Oct 07 10:45
oiaohmBasically Earth will reset it self.  The question is can we live out the few thousand years required.Oct 07 10:45
oiaohmIn fact what is the stuff up at the moment is a process called global dimming reducing water evaporation.Oct 07 10:46
iophkIf the change is mild, like another ice age, there will be homids. Oct 07 10:46
iophkCivilization is much more fragile that that, though.Oct 07 10:47
iophkIt's only a veneer.Oct 07 10:47
iophkand easily removed.Oct 07 10:47
oiaohmiophk: yes there were clivilzations before the last iceage that went by by.Oct 07 10:50
iophkhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/07/drm_html_5_point_1/Oct 07 10:59
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2052148/webs-gatekeepers-embrace-drm-for-next-html5-standard.htmlOct 07 10:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Web Daddy Berners-Lee DRMs HTML5 into 2016 • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7i ]Oct 07 10:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.pcworld.com | Web's gatekeepers embrace DRM for next HTML5 standard | PCWorld  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7j ]Oct 07 10:59
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iophkold - http://www.thestreet.com/story/11958450/1/theres-no-question-now-apple-is-dead.htmlOct 07 11:48
TechrightsBot-trwww.thestreet.com | There's No Question Now: Apple is Dead - TheStreet  [ http://ur1.ca/fuok0 ]Oct 07 11:48
iophkhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24335517Oct 07 12:11
TechrightsBot-trwww.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Ace cafe with quite a nice ancient monument attached?  [ http://ur1.ca/fuon9 ]Oct 07 12:11
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3148583Oct 07 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2013/10/libe-whistleblower-hearing-at-the-european-parliament.html #libe #privacyOct 07 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> anniemachon.ch | LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament - Using Our Intelligence  [ http://ur1.ca/fuolt ]Oct 07 12:12
schestowitz_bed2"Not so sure about their children ....... check up on some of the really greedy ones ......... They stop their children becoming as bad as themselves for some reason unknown to us ............ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=billionaires+children+problems&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0#hl=en&q=billionaires+children+inheritance"Oct 07 12:12
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | billionaires children problems - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/fuonf ]Oct 07 12:12
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MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/1274/Oct 07 14:07
TechrightsBot-trxkcd.com | xkcd: Open LetterOct 07 14:07
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DaemonFCI'm cashing out all my survey money as Amazon gift cards.Oct 07 17:15
DaemonFCBy the time I'm done posting them to my account, I'll have enough to go in and get a free Chromebook.Oct 07 17:16
DaemonFCB-)Oct 07 17:16
DaemonFCI'm told that the process for getting Fedora to run on one of those things isn't that hard.Oct 07 17:16
*DaemonFC is still interested in that Crown Vic that needed a lot of repairs.Oct 07 17:29
DaemonFCI'm going to just let it sit. Eventually they'll come down on the price some more or send it off to auction.Oct 07 17:30
DaemonFCIt needs at least $1,200 worth of work to make it right, and that's just what I know about.Oct 07 17:30
DaemonFCIt makes me mad because we were so close on price. Like, within $200-$300.Oct 07 17:30
DaemonFCBut I've got to get it at the right price to make the repairs worth it.Oct 07 17:31
DaemonFCI was looking into a 2002 Lincoln Town Car but it sold before I could get down there.Oct 07 17:34
DaemonFCThe guy said that there was a problem with the air ride suspension. Those cost a fortune to fix, but you can just replace them with the coil spring system meant for the Crown Victoria, and then it shouldn't ever be a problem again.Oct 07 17:35
DaemonFChttp://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=46750&mmt=[FORD[CROWNVIC[]][]LINC[LINCTC[]][]MERC[MERCGRAND[]][]]&modelCode1=CROWNVIC&makeCode2=LINC&modelCode2=LINCTC&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode3=MERCGRAND&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=67414707&makeCode3=MERC&searchRadius=50&bodyStyleCodes=SEDAN&listingId=352693481&listingIndex=6&Log=0Oct 07 17:37
TechrightsBot-trwww.autotrader.com | AutoTrader.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqch ]Oct 07 17:37
DaemonFCThat would be alright. :)Oct 07 17:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/Oct 07 19:08
DaemonFCLOLOct 07 19:08
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TechrightsBot-trwww.infowars.com | » FBI unable to seize 600,000 Bitcoins from Silk Road operator Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqpq ]Oct 07 19:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/Oct 07 19:08
DaemonFCSo really what this will amount to is taking 5% of all bitcoins permanently out of circulation.Oct 07 19:09
DaemonFCThat will have the effect of making the remaining bitcoins worth more.Oct 07 19:09
DaemonFCThe only way a currency can suffer from inflation is when there are more of them in circulation.Oct 07 19:10
DaemonFCYou can create a billion dollars and it wouldn't have an inflationary effect until those dollars are actually circulating in the economy.Oct 07 19:10
DaemonFCIf you put them in a safe and never spent them on anything, they wouldn't have an inflationary effect on the rest of the money supply.Oct 07 19:11
DaemonFCThe Federal Reserve is actually falling short of its inflation goals because people are saving more than they used to.Oct 07 19:11
DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/07/supreme-court-new-term-virginia-sodomyOct 07 19:26
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Supreme court begins new term by throwing out Virginia sodomy law | Law | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqt1 ]Oct 07 19:26
_GoblinBit coin is not wise to mention around the conspiracy folk....its mysterious beginnings are to do with a "new world order" or something like that...Oct 07 19:34
MinceRhttps://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_776225eed68bbb5ffbcd.jpegOct 07 19:59
iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/google-berners-lee-alliance-broadband-africaOct 07 20:04
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Google and Sir Tim Berners-Lee lead coalition for cheaper internet | Technology | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzc ]Oct 07 20:04
iophkAffordable but not open?Oct 07 20:04
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/copyright-groups-demand-pirate-bay-blockade-in-iceland-131007/Oct 07 20:08
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Copyright Groups Demand Pirate Bay Blockade in Iceland | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzs ]Oct 07 20:08
iophkhttp://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/windows-phone-htc-licence-fee-128881Oct 07 20:10
TechrightsBot-trwww.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Willing To Let HTC USe Windows Phone For Free  [ http://ur1.ca/fur0a ]Oct 07 20:10
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MinceRthat still doesn't quite reach the value of winblows phoneOct 07 21:16
SosumiM$ hemorraging money = goodOct 07 21:24
MinceRif they'd pay HTC lots for each winblows phone, yesOct 07 21:26
MinceRit would be even better if it was similar to their licensing, i.e. paid for every cpu sold, regardless of whether it's running winblows or notOct 07 21:26
Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_ending_support_for_meego_and_symbian_january_1-news-6923.phpOct 07 22:03
TechrightsBot-trwww.gsmarena.com | Nokia ending support for MeeGo and Symbian January 1 - GSMArena.com news  [ http://ur1.ca/furk0 ]Oct 07 22:03
SosumiElop should be run over by a truckOct 07 22:04
sebsebsebSosumi: I guess loads more go to AndrodinsteadOct 07 22:07
sebsebseband some toIphoneOct 07 22:07
sebsebseband Ubutu Touch won't be out on ertian phones until next year it seemsOct 07 22:07
sebsebseband Firefox Os is developing world and geeksOct 07 22:07
Sosumiyes, there's options, but I actually like symbianOct 07 22:09
sebsebsebSosumi: Nokia = Microsoft nowOct 07 22:09
sebsebsebor pretty muchOct 07 22:09
sebsebsebthey want Windows PHone out there, not these otheronesOct 07 22:09
SosumiyeahOct 07 22:09
sebsebsebSosumi: you may like Smybian but at the endof the day, its a project/product from a commericial companyOct 07 22:10
sebsebsebso when they decide to kil it, that's t realylOct 07 22:10
Sosumiwell, also don't forget nokia had the best cameraphones aroundOct 07 22:10
sebsebsebI don't knowOct 07 22:11
Sosumiit's just shamefull the way the company wentOct 07 22:11
sebsebsebSosumi: ,buts seems maybe so going by a coment on that inkOct 07 22:11
MinceRsymbian jumped the shark with mandatory app signingOct 07 22:12
Sosumithat I don't knowOct 07 22:14
Sosumibut for now on the only viable option is "pure" androidOct 07 22:14
Sosumieven I'm waiting for the nexus 5 despite it's week batteryOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebSosumi: yeah the only main streame consumer Linux option will be AndoridOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebunles Ubuntu Phone hitsoffOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebwell FIrefox OS  may become mainOct 07 22:15
sebsebsebwell FIrefox OS may become main stremae in AFrica, but therest of the world nonot realy any time soon IguessOct 07 22:15
Sosumito replace my E90Oct 07 22:15
sebsebsebwhat's a E90 Oct 07 22:16
sebsebseb?Oct 07 22:16
Sosuminokia E90Oct 07 22:16
sebsebsebno don't know what that isOct 07 22:17
Sosumiit's one of those last communicator series from nokiaOct 07 22:17
*sebsebseb feels a bit uh after all thoe crisps, and the mik shakeshmOct 07 22:17
sebsebsebI ThniOct 07 22:17
sebsebsebI thinkit'st he crisps makng me feel uh thoughOct 07 22:18
sebsebsebSosumi: Do  you know what Crisps are ?  what country were you fromagain?Oct 07 22:19
MinceRis debian in a chroot on android impure? :>Oct 07 22:19
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SosumiportugalOct 07 22:20
sebsebsebSosumi: okOct 07 22:20
sebsebseband actsualy let's ask MinceR  this one as well :dOct 07 22:20
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sebsebseband no chating to look upOct 07 22:20
sebsebsebif your not sureOct 07 22:20
sebsebsebpleaOct 07 22:20
sebsebsebno cheatingOct 07 22:20
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sebsebsebSosumi: MinceR  Do you know what crisps are?Oct 07 22:21
Sosumipotato chips?Oct 07 22:21
sebsebsebok that was his answerOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebwhat's your Oct 07 22:30
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sebsebsebs  MinceROct 07 22:30
MinceRi think that's what brits call chips :>Oct 07 22:30
sebsebsebyeah what they call chips in mainlandEurope or most of it hwateverOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebwe call crispsOct 07 22:30
sebsebseband we don't really say French friesOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebwe say chipsOct 07 22:30
MinceRthey're belgian anyway :>Oct 07 22:30
sebsebsebuh which is from Beligum >Oct 07 22:30
sebsebseb?Oct 07 22:30
MinceRfriesOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebohOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebI don't knowOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebthat's all over the place reallyOct 07 22:30
MinceRit's just that about half of them speak frenchOct 07 22:30
sebsebseboh  okOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebwell  Dutch and FrenhOct 07 22:30
sebsebseband there's Flemish tooOct 07 22:30
MinceRindeedOct 07 22:30
MinceRapparently Flemish is the common name for the Dutch languageOct 07 22:30
sebsebseband English of coure as an unoffical languageOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebof the countryOct 07 22:30
sebsebseb:DOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebthere's a Fleish speaing partOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebandthen the dutchspeaing partOct 07 22:30
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sebsebsebBrussues being in the dutch speaking partOct 07 22:30
sebsebseboh yeah reminds me,  I was thinking about booking my plane today forFOSDEMOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebso it's qutieearlyOct 07 22:30
sebsebseband cheap stil :dOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebcoud have done that like two months agoOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebshould still be cheap fo r those datesOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi nearly time fo me too go to a rather well  Ubuntu ths and that, but  not only eventOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi to hopefully speak about Mageia :)Oct 07 22:30
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sebsebseblike wanted too do lat year,  but now  may just do  a short oneOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebhopineg to both ashort lightning talk  and a longer my own roomOct 07 22:30
MinceR:)Oct 07 22:30
sebsebseb5 minute LightningTalk on the mainstageOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebwith timeforprobably 1 quesitonOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebseems okOct 07 22:30
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sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi means I got ot sort out my slidesOct 07 22:30
sebsebseband this time round should do it eary enough!Oct 07 22:30
sebsebsebmake two lots of slides, for a lighting talk, and a longer talOct 07 22:30
sebsebseband then  what happens happes I guessOct 07 22:30
sebsebseb,but evenif I ony get to do the lightning talk, that's better than nothingOct 07 22:30
Sosumisebsebseb, turn into stallman whille you're at itOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebdidn't reolie there was lightning talks lastyearOct 07 22:30
MinceR:DOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebSosumi: nope I can't,  also Magiea  in't  quite considered free softwareonly distorOct 07 22:30
sebsebsebsine hwateverOct 07 22:30
sebsebseb,but nearyOct 07 22:31
Sosumihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQOct 07 22:31
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/9z7ny ]Oct 07 22:31
Sosumior at least do thatOct 07 22:31
MinceRis that important?Oct 07 22:31
Sosumino, but epicOct 07 22:31
sebsebsebI have seen the foot vide beforeOct 07 22:31
sebsebsebI hae also spoke to Richard STallman monthsagoOct 07 22:32
sebsebseb,but not qute how I wnatedOct 07 22:32
sebsebseb,but ha wellOct 07 22:32
Sosumiwell, in St. iGNUcious we trustOct 07 22:33
sebsebsebwell none of that in AndroidOct 07 22:33
sebsebsebAndroid does have a special penguin inside it thoughOct 07 22:33
sebsebseb,but there's no coupleOct 07 22:33
MinceRi don't, i use vim :>Oct 07 22:34
sebsebsebit's like the special penguin broke up with it's GNU, for AndroidOct 07 22:34
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sebsebsebbroken loveOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebfor Andorid anywayOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebweird relationshop hehhehOct 07 22:34
Sosumiyeah, but android ins't that great because it's tied to googleOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebDestop Inux etc they are tgetherOct 07 22:34
sebsebseb,but no no not AnroidOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebfor soe reason they  don't like eahOct 07 22:34
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sebsebsebeach other when it comes to AndroidOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebthe alienOct 07 22:34
sebsebsebSosumi: right bingoOct 07 22:35
sebsebsebSosumi: and Symbian and Meego weren't that great eitherOct 07 22:35
sebsebsebsince they were tighed toNokiaOct 07 22:35
sebsebseband  then well your articleOct 07 22:35
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Sosuminop, they weren't, but at least they weren't used by google in order to snoop on meOct 07 22:35
Sosumithat's on what I wanted to get on when I mentioned the nexus 5Oct 07 22:36
sebsebsebSosumi: watch out GOogle GLass is behind youOct 07 22:36
MinceRthey were tied to a non-m$ nokia, thoughOct 07 22:36
sebsebsebwatch out evene more so,  if your using a public toilet and Google glass is around!Oct 07 22:36
Sosumisince the phone comes with the bootloader unlocked and android is free softwareOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebGoogle gass is scary Oct 07 22:37
sebsebsebin a wyaOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebGoogle Glass  will turn peoe into Googl agents toOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebif it hti ossOct 07 22:37
sebsebseboffOct 07 22:37
sebsebsebin fact it may b a bit ike the MatrixOct 07 22:37
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MinceRthey can be rootedOct 07 22:38
Sosumiwhy not make a "security" enhanced android? with all the google stuff outOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebwith the evil super computer being in   Google etcOct 07 22:38
MinceRSosumi: i think it's called AOSP :>Oct 07 22:38
sebsebsebMinceR: Google glass can be rooted?Oct 07 22:38
MinceRafaik it was already rooted long agoOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebso can gan rootOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebanddo hwateverOct 07 22:38
sebsebsebwithitOct 07 22:38
sebsebseb?Oct 07 22:38
Sosumiglass is wasteOct 07 22:38
Sosumino steroscopic 3d viewOct 07 22:39
MinceRdoesn't need it, it's just a HUD ;)Oct 07 22:40
sebsebseba HUD ?????Oct 07 22:40
sebsebsebSosumi: watch ut, Google glass is right htere, and there and that person wearing it too etc, and hidden away in your home to a pair etcOct 07 22:40
Sosumiheads up displayOct 07 22:40
sebsebsebSosumi: your every move well neary all going to GOogleOct 07 22:40
MinceRHead-Up DisplayOct 07 22:40
sebsebsebGoogle agents spying on SosumiOct 07 22:41
Sosumijust because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they not out to get yaOct 07 22:41
Sosumi*areOct 07 22:41
Sosumi:)Oct 07 22:41
sebsebseboh MinceR  those people are following you with Google glass too   oh and  the Hungarian goverment made a deal with Google, and have access to all the Hungarian Google  glass streas   and well they are coming after you, since they don't like you since you want freedom, and use Linux,  you can't hide, Google glass is all over, they are coming to get you, to put you under arrest for wanting freedom and using LInuxOct 07 22:42
MinceRjoke is on them, glass runs linuxOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebMinceR: heh heh I was just typing n something about that :dOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebbasicaly this:Oct 07 22:43
sebsebsebno no you can't tell them that Google Glass uses Linux, and  use thatOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebit's about deskto linux etcOct 07 22:43
sebsebsebyour not allowed to have freedom  using Desktop Linux in Hungary, it's illegal in the new HUnOct 07 22:44
sebsebsebhungary adyou Oct 07 22:44
sebsebseband to use a desktop or a laptop computer you must use  Windows or Mac OS XOct 07 22:44
MinceRi'll be gone before they get around to thatOct 07 22:46
Sosumijust embed a computer into a bathtub so you can can have a bathtub computerOct 07 22:46
sebsebsebMinceR: so  you said before, whe nI put something ike thatOct 07 22:46
MinceRor embed a bathtub into a computerOct 07 22:46
sebsebseb,but non no Oct 07 22:46
sebsebsebthe borers will be bockedOct 07 22:46
sebsebseba  wall will come up against borders well  for most partsOct 07 22:46
sebsebsebetcOct 07 22:46
sebsebsebyu wilOct 07 22:46
MinceRthey can't afford wallsOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebyou willl be shot if attemtping to cross and caught as wellOct 07 22:47
MinceRthey've spent all the money on stadiaOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebon what?Oct 07 22:47
MinceRstadiumsOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebohOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebfootball ?Oct 07 22:47
MinceRindeedOct 07 22:47
Sosumimeh footballOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebthey willgo cheap an put machine guns that are autoaticalll  detecting of peoleetc, in border crossingsOct 07 22:47
sebsebsebso either way you will  most liely get shotOct 07 22:48
sebsebsebautomatiallicaly detecting of peopleOct 07 22:48
sebsebsebuh net book keyboardOct 07 22:48
MinceRthat too will end my problemsOct 07 22:48
MinceRbut it's another thing they can't afford anywayOct 07 22:48
sebsebsebit will be like this  film I saw, when Scoltand apparaty had a vius or whateve,r  and then teh  border crossing with Englad,  a machine gunOct 07 22:48
sebsebsebany detection of movement, and shoot, poor rabbitOct 07 22:49
MinceRthat's the uk and this is hungaryOct 07 22:49
sebsebsebMinceR: no no that was a filmOct 07 22:49
sebsebsebfictionOct 07 22:50
MinceRhungary is stranger than fictionOct 07 22:50
sebsebsebfiction make beieOct 07 22:50
MinceRwe're having trouble telling real news from fake newsOct 07 22:50
sebsebsebanyway watch out  Sosumi is reallly a spy from your govermentOct 07 22:50
MinceRthis channel is publicly loggedOct 07 22:50
sebsebsebspecificaly here  too spy on youOct 07 22:50
SosumiI spy with my little,Oct 07 22:51
sebsebsebyes, but een though the public logs, they want a witness of the inceOct 07 22:51
sebsebsebMinceR in here so they sent SosumiOct 07 22:51
sebsebseba Hungairan MinceR spy living in Portugal, heh hehOct 07 22:51
Sosumibetter watch out or may take some questionable pics of youOct 07 22:51
Sosumiand demmand some ransom money Oct 07 22:51
Sosumi:)Oct 07 22:51
sebsebsebSosumi: of MinceR yeah Oct 07 22:51
Sosumiand of youOct 07 22:52
sebsebsebyeah you black mail peopleOct 07 22:52
sebsebsebyou bad boy!Oct 07 22:52
SosumilolOct 07 22:53
Sosumibut actually, I saw a guy very similar to you today at my universityOct 07 22:53
sebsebsebSosumi: uh you don't know what I look likeOct 07 22:53
Sosumiyes I doOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebunllessOct 07 22:54
sebsebseboh Oct 07 22:54
sebsebsebSosumi: well i  was going to sayOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebunless you saw my videoOct 07 22:54
sebsebseb,butOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebthose slides.....Oct 07 22:54
Sosumiyeah the slidesOct 07 22:54
Sosumifrom like back in may or soOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebSosumi: yeah that slide show was horrileOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebSosumi: I Think the talk got a bit messed up as a resultOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebhence also why I don't want the site for the event  too just link to themOct 07 22:54
sebsebsebaltough an optionOct 07 22:55
sebsebsebSosumi: plus  I lost  Mageia enthuusiasm at the timeOct 07 22:55
sebsebseband  tried to do something more general but hardwr than I Thought orwhteverOct 07 22:55
sebsebsebno videos of those talks may hae been for beset this tie hmmOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebgo back next year, and do something simiar and better :)Oct 07 22:56
sebsebsebSosumi: oh and speak  at an event in just under two weeks :)Oct 07 22:56
sebsebsebas I was sayingOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebmake sure slies are nicey done before even tralling to that city this time tooOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebor done enoughOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebSosumi: get vidoed etcOct 07 22:56
sebsebsebget a bog ost written upOct 07 22:56
sebsebseband  yep :)Oct 07 22:56
sebsebsebput video onine as well ypeOct 07 22:57
Sosumievery time I had to present somethingOct 07 22:57
sebsebsebSosumi: yep chat at theat eevent that's coming up soonOct 07 22:57
sebsebseband then that one I went to again next yearOct 07 22:57
Sosumiusually ment going to the blackboard do some crazy calculus stuffOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebreally want to d a really good talk next year and suchOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebSosumi: got a cub to hep me learn speaking skills ore, before the one I went too againOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebas wellOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebSosumi: what's nice is I get to do a short talk there  t he day before tralvilng off to the cityOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebfor the one that's coming up osonOct 07 22:58
sebsebsebshould be speaking thre a short talk about something  the day before so a kind of warm up in a wa thenOct 07 22:59
sebsebsebSosumi: what's also awesome is that got a awesome Magiea welcome screne new featureOct 07 22:59
sebsebsebSosumi: that I can show and talk about :)Oct 07 22:59
Sosumidon't forget to show up as gandalf tooOct 07 22:59
Sosumisince mageia basically means magicOct 07 23:00
sebsebsebI am thinking Mageia  2  for the control centre screenshotsOct 07 23:00
sebsebsebin  Gnome and KDEOct 07 23:00
sebsebseband then Mageia 4 Alpha 3 fo the welcoe screen, screenshots and well that looks like Mageia 3 at the momentOct 07 23:00
sebsebsebSosumi: I don't like the look of Mageia 3 muchOct 07 23:01
sebsebseband for my Lightning Talk not to bother with the Mageia 1 lookOct 07 23:01
sebsebsebunles very quckOct 07 23:01
sebsebsebit lolks ugy tooOct 07 23:01
sebsebsebpaine I mean, and that release han't been supported for qutie a whie nowOct 07 23:01
Sosumibash looks the same everywhere :POct 07 23:01
sebsebsebSosumi: KDE ad GnomeOct 07 23:01
sebsebseblook pretty much the same everywehre tooOct 07 23:01
sebsebseband XCE  and LXDE nad what notOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebslight chage of icons, and theme maybe, and that's about itOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebwhere icons go etcOct 07 23:02
Sosumikde with all those permanent notifications in their later releases is kind of dumbOct 07 23:02
sebsebseb,but htose are upstrea projectsOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebSosumi: they want too see distro specific stuf more soOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebat the event I am going toOct 07 23:02
sebsebsebit will be in front of loads of LinuxusersOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebwell many Ubuntu users and suchOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebSosumi: I'll do a talk about the communityOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebhow  it's set upOct 07 23:03
sebsebsebhow we contribute to upstream projects toOct 07 23:04
sebsebsebso yeah like I did before for the LIghtning Talk thenOct 07 23:04
sebsebseband longer fo the other one etc if doinga longer oneOct 07 23:04
sebsebsebSosumi: yep  control centre, wecleom scree, event photosOct 07 23:04
sebsebsebthe diagrom about how the projet is set upOct 07 23:04
sebsebseband  some talk about this and that, and that's that reallyOct 07 23:04
sebsebsebSosumi: did you ever see my Lighting Talk ?Oct 07 23:05
SosuminoOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebSosumi: Mageia Lightning TalkOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebfindi t on YoutubeOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebthere's a eent descripton and the ink to slides tooOct 07 23:05
sebsebsebSosumi: so I plan to do a simia talk to that one, but at http://oggcamp.orgOct 07 23:06
TechrightsBot-troggcamp.org | OggCampOct 07 23:06
sebsebsebto do a  similar Lighting Talk at leastOct 07 23:06
sebsebseb,but hopefuly can get my own room too, then can do one about going fro uer to contributer etc and why, that's longerOct 07 23:06
MinceRgnOct 07 23:06
sebsebseb!google Magiea Lightining TalkOct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mageia Lightning Talk - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRo7UrIivYBoOct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mageia has been visiting Europe | Mageia Blog (English) | http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/07/17/mageia-has-been-visiting-europe/Oct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - bjoernvold.com • View topic - Mageia 3 | http://bjoernvold.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D32%26t%3D2710%26start%3D12Oct 07 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What so special about Mageia ? - SlideShare | http://www.slideshare.net/eurolinux/what-so-special-about-mageiaOct 07 23:07
sebsebsebMinceR: nightOct 07 23:07
Sosumihow many ppl fell asleep or burst into laughter? Oct 07 23:07
Sosumi:POct 07 23:08
sebsebsebSosumi: for the LIghtning Talk I did beoreOct 07 23:08
sebsebseboh it was goodOct 07 23:08
SosumiI'm just jokingOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebSosumi: five guys or so coming up afterowulds wanting tofndout moreOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebSosumi: talking at that event this year, didn't seem to go that wellOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebor  welll  the general talk anywayOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebthe LUG one ok, but wnet over a bitOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebtime wiseOct 07 23:08
sebsebsebSosumi: I feel like I Need too go back next year, and really make sure, that I deliver really good talks when I do :)Oct 07 23:09
sebsebsebSosumi: ,but yeah Liverpool in justunde two weeks :DOct 07 23:09
sebsebsebshould get to speak there this year too :)  unike last yearOct 07 23:10
Sosumithat's niceOct 07 23:10
sebsebsebso yeah got sides to sort out before thenOct 07 23:10
sebsebsebSosumi: oh and tommorwo I findout omething to, that's  not relatedOct 07 23:10
Sosumiwell man, I'm exaustedOct 07 23:14
Sosumiand tomorrow the metro workers are on strikeOct 07 23:15
Sosumiso gn :)Oct 07 23:15
DaemonFCThe US needs someone that has the authority to dismiss Congress and call new elections.Oct 07 23:15
DaemonFCThis is really just about as low as I've ever seen Congress get.Oct 07 23:16
DaemonFCMost other countries would have dissolved their parliament if this kind of thing actually happened.Oct 07 23:16
Sosumidissolve parliament and call in new elections...Oct 07 23:17
Sosumibut if obozo had any guts, all we'd need was to do an executive order scrapping the debt ceiling (like you said) and declare all gov essentialOct 07 23:18
DaemonFCDeclare it all essential and not subject to shutdown, and then invoke the 14th Amendment.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCThat would effectively neuter Congress.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCThey'd never be able to bullshit us like this again.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCIf they don't want to pay for a program, they shouldn't enact that program.Oct 07 23:19
DaemonFCThey shouldn't be able to enact a program and then refuse to pay for it.Oct 07 23:20
DaemonFCIf they want to repeal a program or specifically pass a law that changes the funding level, then that's a valid exercise.Oct 07 23:20
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DaemonFCBut what they're doing is refusing to pay for anything, at all, even though they've passed programs and funding levels that have not been changed.Oct 07 23:21
DaemonFCThe only thing they've been doing since the Republican minority took over is using the debt ceiling to threaten us with every six months or so.Oct 07 23:22
DaemonFCSosumi, I think Obama will get to the point where he has to do what I said he should do.Oct 07 23:23
DaemonFCFor political reasons, he needs to wait until Congress fails to act.Oct 07 23:23
DaemonFCThen he can declare an emergency and invoke his authority to ignore the debt ceiling.Oct 07 23:23
DaemonFCThey might see that coming and agree to raise the debt ceiling to prevent him from setting that precedent.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCThey know that if he ever gets that power, he'd never give it back.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCand neither would any other presidentOct 07 23:24
DaemonFCSo he's doing the right thing for once.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCWhen he says there will be no negotiations under these circumstances.Oct 07 23:24
DaemonFCThe other thing that might happen is the discharge petition.Oct 07 23:27
DaemonFCThe Democrats in the House can force a vote to raise the debt ceiling if they can get enough Republicans to sign on to that.Oct 07 23:28
DaemonFCThen they'd only need to find 18 Republicans that would do that. Enough Republicans probably want this whole thing to go away so they don't lose their next election, that this might happen.Oct 07 23:28
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iophkhttp://www.zdnet.com/valve-details-specs-for-linux-based-steam-machine-prototype-gaming-pcs-7000021607/Oct 07 04:07
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schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144541Oct 07 05:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## Hate the "Sign in to Chrome" spyware feature of Chrome?Oct 07 05:22
schestowitz_bed2"actually that would be step 0 :)"Oct 07 05:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.chromium.org | Policy List - The Chromium Projects  [ http://ur1.ca/funzf ]Oct 07 05:22
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3144544Oct 07 05:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/we-are-terrifyingly-close-to-the-climates-point-of-no-return/280076/ what's terrifying is the success of the denialOct 07 05:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.theatlantic.com | We Are Terrifyingly Close to the Climate's 'Point of No Return' - Eric Holthaus - The Atlantic  [ http://ur1.ca/fuko1 ]Oct 07 05:22
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 05:23
schestowitz_bed2There's no actual way to know.Oct 07 05:23
schestowitz_bed2And there's some ambiguity as to what is meant by a "point of no return." One point of return is the one beyond which we will have climate change. We have climate change, ergo, we have passed that one.Oct 07 05:23
schestowitz_bed2Another point of no return is beyond which climate will change "irrevocably," and beyond which climate may change in unpredictable ways. There is no guarantee that the emergent system would be conducive to human (or non-human) life.Oct 07 05:23
schestowitz_bed2As I understand it, in order to "revoke" such changes, we would have to recreate the factors that produced the change to what we had in the recent past, that is, the factors in the change from the Paleolithic to the Neolithic.Oct 07 05:23
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 05:23
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2My reasoning is that, with the thaw of ice/permafrost around the Arctic, we have reached the point where, even if we stop all our carbon burning today, the thawing clathrates will continue to release more than enough methane to continue and increase the current greenhouse effect. When all the easily-released methane is gone, the process will stop.Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2However, there is enough of it to more or less double the greenhouse effect from the existing atmospheric carbon load.Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2Will some geoengineering project be able to offset all that greenhouse gas? I doubt it.Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2Methane is bad stuff. In terms of global warming, it's about 20-25 times as potent as carbon dioxide. The good news, however, is that it breaks down relatively quickly. So it doesn't accumulate like carbon dioxide does.Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2Still, I don't think anyone knows just how much methane, in various forms, is locked up in the tundra and in Arctic sea beds that might be released in a thaw.Oct 07 05:24
schestowitz_bed2"Oct 07 05:24
iophkA Venus-like atmosphere would be bad for most current multi-cellular lifeOct 07 05:32
oiaohmiophk: exactly what is a Venus-like atmosphere good for fairly much nothing.Oct 07 05:38
oiaohmiophk: venus surface is rock melting hot.Oct 07 05:39
iophkOurs might not get rock-melting hotk, but it could potentially get way to hot for current land  life.Oct 07 05:39
iophkhttp://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/energy/methane-hydrates/Oct 07 05:40
TechrightsBot-trworldoceanreview.com | Methane hydrates   World Ocean Review  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo3g ]Oct 07 05:41
iophkThere's a lot of methane in the water that could boil off if it gets too hot.  That will in turn make it even hotter.Oct 07 05:41
oiaohmYes the true point of no return.Oct 07 05:41
oiaohmThe point of no return currently talked about is the point that is insanely hard to return from.Oct 07 05:41
iophkMost people aren't facing that.  They're too used to laws and limits that can be bent or exceeded without consequence.Oct 07 05:42
iophkPay a small fine and say "sorry" and all that.Oct 07 05:42
iophkPlanets don't work that way.Oct 07 05:42
oiaohmThe big worry is the melting IceOct 07 05:43
oiaohmBut that was always a fairly much universal clock to the next ice age.Oct 07 05:43
iophkYeah in the short term.  Oct 07 05:43
oiaohmEarth is not Venus.Oct 07 05:43
iophkFlorida is gone no matter what happens next.Oct 07 05:43
oiaohmEarth normal operation system is to self iceage itself.Oct 07 05:44
oiaohmMelt enough ice over heat get too much cloud then freeze our nuts off.Oct 07 05:44
oiaohmNormal earth cycle.Oct 07 05:44
oiaohmOf course the dieing creatures form a new oil resovers and that kind of things.Oct 07 05:45
oiaohmBasically Earth will reset it self.  The question is can we live out the few thousand years required.Oct 07 05:45
oiaohmIn fact what is the stuff up at the moment is a process called global dimming reducing water evaporation.Oct 07 05:46
iophkIf the change is mild, like another ice age, there will be homids. Oct 07 05:46
iophkCivilization is much more fragile that that, though.Oct 07 05:47
iophkIt's only a veneer.Oct 07 05:47
iophkand easily removed.Oct 07 05:47
oiaohmiophk: yes there were clivilzations before the last iceage that went by by.Oct 07 05:50
iophkhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/07/drm_html_5_point_1/Oct 07 05:59
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2052148/webs-gatekeepers-embrace-drm-for-next-html5-standard.htmlOct 07 05:59
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Web Daddy Berners-Lee DRMs HTML5 into 2016  The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/fuo7i ]Oct 07 05:59
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iophkold - http://www.thestreet.com/story/11958450/1/theres-no-question-now-apple-is-dead.htmlOct 07 06:48
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iophkhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24335517Oct 07 07:11
TechrightsBot-trwww.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Ace cafe with quite a nice ancient monument attached?  [ http://ur1.ca/fuon9 ]Oct 07 07:11
schestowitz_bed2https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3148583Oct 07 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: LIBE whistleblower hearing at the European Parliament http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2013/10/libe-whistleblower-hearing-at-the-european-parliament.html #libe #privacyOct 07 07:12
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schestowitz_bed2"Not so sure about their children ....... check up on some of the really greedy ones ......... They stop their children becoming as bad as themselves for some reason unknown to us ............ https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=billionaires+children+problems&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0#hl=en&q=billionaires+children+inheritance"Oct 07 07:12
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.co.uk | billionaires children problems - Google Search  [ http://ur1.ca/fuonf ]Oct 07 07:12
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MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/1274/Oct 07 09:07
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DaemonFCI'm cashing out all my survey money as Amazon gift cards.Oct 07 12:15
DaemonFCBy the time I'm done posting them to my account, I'll have enough to go in and get a free Chromebook.Oct 07 12:16
DaemonFCB-)Oct 07 12:16
DaemonFCI'm told that the process for getting Fedora to run on one of those things isn't that hard.Oct 07 12:16
*DaemonFC is still interested in that Crown Vic that needed a lot of repairs.Oct 07 12:29
DaemonFCI'm going to just let it sit. Eventually they'll come down on the price some more or send it off to auction.Oct 07 12:30
DaemonFCIt needs at least $1,200 worth of work to make it right, and that's just what I know about.Oct 07 12:30
DaemonFCIt makes me mad because we were so close on price. Like, within $200-$300.Oct 07 12:30
DaemonFCBut I've got to get it at the right price to make the repairs worth it.Oct 07 12:31
DaemonFCI was looking into a 2002 Lincoln Town Car but it sold before I could get down there.Oct 07 12:34
DaemonFCThe guy said that there was a problem with the air ride suspension. Those cost a fortune to fix, but you can just replace them with the coil spring system meant for the Crown Victoria, and then it shouldn't ever be a problem again.Oct 07 12:35
DaemonFChttp://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=46750&mmt=[FORD[CROWNVIC[]][]LINC[LINCTC[]][]MERC[MERCGRAND[]][]]&modelCode1=CROWNVIC&makeCode2=LINC&modelCode2=LINCTC&makeCode1=FORD&modelCode3=MERCGRAND&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=67414707&makeCode3=MERC&searchRadius=50&bodyStyleCodes=SEDAN&listingId=352693481&listingIndex=6&Log=0Oct 07 12:37
TechrightsBot-trwww.autotrader.com | AutoTrader.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqch ]Oct 07 12:37
DaemonFCThat would be alright. :)Oct 07 12:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/Oct 07 14:08
DaemonFCLOLOct 07 14:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.infowars.com/fbi-unable-to-seize-600000-bitcoins-from-silk-road-operator/Oct 07 14:08
DaemonFCSo really what this will amount to is taking 5% of all bitcoins permanently out of circulation.Oct 07 14:09
DaemonFCThat will have the effect of making the remaining bitcoins worth more.Oct 07 14:09
DaemonFCThe only way a currency can suffer from inflation is when there are more of them in circulation.Oct 07 14:10
DaemonFCYou can create a billion dollars and it wouldn't have an inflationary effect until those dollars are actually circulating in the economy.Oct 07 14:10
DaemonFCIf you put them in a safe and never spent them on anything, they wouldn't have an inflationary effect on the rest of the money supply.Oct 07 14:11
DaemonFCThe Federal Reserve is actually falling short of its inflation goals because people are saving more than they used to.Oct 07 14:11
DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/oct/07/supreme-court-new-term-virginia-sodomyOct 07 14:26
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Supreme court begins new term by throwing out Virginia sodomy law | Law | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqt1 ]Oct 07 14:26
_GoblinBit coin is not wise to mention around the conspiracy folk....its mysterious beginnings are to do with a "new world order" or something like that...Oct 07 14:34
MinceRhttps://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_776225eed68bbb5ffbcd.jpegOct 07 14:59
iophkhttp://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/07/google-berners-lee-alliance-broadband-africaOct 07 15:04
TechrightsBot-trwww.theguardian.com | Google and Sir Tim Berners-Lee lead coalition for cheaper internet | Technology | theguardian.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzc ]Oct 07 15:04
iophkAffordable but not open?Oct 07 15:04
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/copyright-groups-demand-pirate-bay-blockade-in-iceland-131007/Oct 07 15:07
TechrightsBot-trtorrentfreak.com | Copyright Groups Demand Pirate Bay Blockade in Iceland | TorrentFreak  [ http://ur1.ca/fuqzs ]Oct 07 15:08
iophkhttp://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/windows-phone-htc-licence-fee-128881Oct 07 15:10
TechrightsBot-trwww.techweekeurope.co.uk | Microsoft Willing To Let HTC USe Windows Phone For Free  [ http://ur1.ca/fur0a ]Oct 07 15:10
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MinceRthat still doesn't quite reach the value of winblows phoneOct 07 16:16
SosumiM$ hemorraging money = goodOct 07 16:24
MinceRif they'd pay HTC lots for each winblows phone, yesOct 07 16:26
MinceRit would be even better if it was similar to their licensing, i.e. paid for every cpu sold, regardless of whether it's running winblows or notOct 07 16:26
Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_ending_support_for_meego_and_symbian_january_1-news-6923.phpOct 07 17:03
TechrightsBot-trwww.gsmarena.com | Nokia ending support for MeeGo and Symbian January 1 - GSMArena.com news  [ http://ur1.ca/furk0 ]Oct 07 17:03
SosumiElop should be run over by a truckOct 07 17:04
sebsebsebSosumi: I guess loads more go to AndrodinsteadOct 07 17:06
sebsebseband some toIphoneOct 07 17:07
sebsebseband Ubutu Touch won't be out on ertian phones until next year it seemsOct 07 17:07
sebsebseband Firefox Os is developing world and geeksOct 07 17:07
Sosumiyes, there's options, but I actually like symbianOct 07 17:08
sebsebsebSosumi: Nokia = Microsoft nowOct 07 17:09
sebsebsebor pretty muchOct 07 17:09
sebsebsebthey want Windows PHone out there, not these otheronesOct 07 17:09
SosumiyeahOct 07 17:09
sebsebsebSosumi: you may like Smybian but at the endof the day, its a project/product from a commericial companyOct 07 17:10
sebsebsebso when they decide to kil it, that's t realylOct 07 17:10
Sosumiwell, also don't forget nokia had the best cameraphones aroundOct 07 17:10
sebsebsebI don't knowOct 07 17:11
Sosumiit's just shamefull the way the company wentOct 07 17:11
sebsebsebSosumi: ,buts seems maybe so going by a coment on that inkOct 07 17:11
MinceRsymbian jumped the shark with mandatory app signingOct 07 17:12
Sosumithat I don't knowOct 07 17:14
Sosumibut for now on the only viable option is "pure" androidOct 07 17:14
Sosumieven I'm waiting for the nexus 5 despite it's week batteryOct 07 17:15
sebsebsebSosumi: yeah the only main streame consumer Linux option will be AndoridOct 07 17:15
sebsebsebunles Ubuntu Phone hitsoffOct 07 17:15
sebsebsebwell FIrefox OS  may become mainOct 07 17:15
sebsebsebwell FIrefox OS may become main stremae in AFrica, but therest of the world nonot realy any time soon IguessOct 07 17:15
Sosumito replace my E90Oct 07 17:15
sebsebsebwhat's a E90 Oct 07 17:16
sebsebseb?Oct 07 17:16
Sosuminokia E90Oct 07 17:16
sebsebsebno don't know what that isOct 07 17:17
Sosumiit's one of those last communicator series from nokiaOct 07 17:17
*sebsebseb feels a bit uh after all thoe crisps, and the mik shakeshmOct 07 17:17
sebsebsebI ThniOct 07 17:17
sebsebsebI thinkit'st he crisps makng me feel uh thoughOct 07 17:18
sebsebsebSosumi: Do  you know what Crisps are ?  what country were you fromagain?Oct 07 17:19
MinceRis debian in a chroot on android impure? :>Oct 07 17:19
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SosumiportugalOct 07 17:20
sebsebsebSosumi: okOct 07 17:20
sebsebseband actsualy let's ask MinceR  this one as well :dOct 07 17:20
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sebsebseband no chating to look upOct 07 17:20
sebsebsebif your not sureOct 07 17:20
sebsebsebpleaOct 07 17:20
sebsebsebno cheatingOct 07 17:20
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sebsebsebSosumi: MinceR  Do you know what crisps are?Oct 07 17:21
Sosumipotato chips?Oct 07 17:21
sebsebsebok that was his answerOct 07 17:21
sebsebsebwhat's your Oct 07 17:21
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sebsebsebs  MinceROct 07 17:21
MinceRi think that's what brits call chips :>Oct 07 17:21
sebsebsebyeah what they call chips in mainlandEurope or most of it hwateverOct 07 17:22
sebsebsebwe call crispsOct 07 17:22
sebsebseband we don't really say French friesOct 07 17:22
sebsebsebwe say chipsOct 07 17:22
MinceRthey're belgian anyway :>Oct 07 17:22
sebsebsebuh which is from Beligum >Oct 07 17:22
sebsebseb?Oct 07 17:22
MinceRfriesOct 07 17:22
sebsebsebohOct 07 17:23
sebsebsebI don't knowOct 07 17:23
sebsebsebthat's all over the place reallyOct 07 17:23
MinceRit's just that about half of them speak frenchOct 07 17:23
sebsebseboh  okOct 07 17:24
sebsebsebwell  Dutch and FrenhOct 07 17:24
sebsebseband there's Flemish tooOct 07 17:24
MinceRindeedOct 07 17:24
MinceRapparently Flemish is the common name for the Dutch languageOct 07 17:24
sebsebseband English of coure as an unoffical languageOct 07 17:24
sebsebsebof the countryOct 07 17:24
sebsebseb:DOct 07 17:24
sebsebsebthere's a Fleish speaing partOct 07 17:24
sebsebsebandthen the dutchspeaing partOct 07 17:25
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sebsebsebBrussues being in the dutch speaking partOct 07 17:25
sebsebseboh yeah reminds me,  I was thinking about booking my plane today forFOSDEMOct 07 17:25
sebsebsebso it's qutieearlyOct 07 17:25
sebsebseband cheap stil :dOct 07 17:25
sebsebsebcoud have done that like two months agoOct 07 17:25
sebsebsebshould still be cheap fo r those datesOct 07 17:25
sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi nearly time fo me too go to a rather well  Ubuntu ths and that, but  not only eventOct 07 17:28
sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi to hopefully speak about Mageia :)Oct 07 17:28
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sebsebseblike wanted too do lat year,  but now  may just do  a short oneOct 07 17:28
sebsebsebhopineg to both ashort lightning talk  and a longer my own roomOct 07 17:29
MinceR:)Oct 07 17:29
sebsebseb5 minute LightningTalk on the mainstageOct 07 17:29
sebsebsebwith timeforprobably 1 quesitonOct 07 17:29
sebsebsebseems okOct 07 17:29
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sebsebsebMinceR: Sosumi means I got ot sort out my slidesOct 07 17:29
sebsebseband this time round should do it eary enough!Oct 07 17:30
sebsebsebmake two lots of slides, for a lighting talk, and a longer talOct 07 17:30
sebsebseband then  what happens happes I guessOct 07 17:30
sebsebseb,but evenif I ony get to do the lightning talk, that's better than nothingOct 07 17:30
Sosumisebsebseb, turn into stallman whille you're at itOct 07 17:30
sebsebsebdidn't reolie there was lightning talks lastyearOct 07 17:30
MinceR:DOct 07 17:30
sebsebsebSosumi: nope I can't,  also Magiea  in't  quite considered free softwareonly distorOct 07 17:30
sebsebsebsine hwateverOct 07 17:30
sebsebseb,but nearyOct 07 17:30
Sosumihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQOct 07 17:31
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/9z7ny ]Oct 07 17:31
Sosumior at least do thatOct 07 17:31
MinceRis that important?Oct 07 17:31
Sosumino, but epicOct 07 17:31
sebsebsebI have seen the foot vide beforeOct 07 17:31
sebsebsebI hae also spoke to Richard STallman monthsagoOct 07 17:32
sebsebseb,but not qute how I wnatedOct 07 17:32
sebsebseb,but ha wellOct 07 17:32
Sosumiwell, in St. iGNUcious we trustOct 07 17:32
sebsebsebwell none of that in AndroidOct 07 17:33
sebsebsebAndroid does have a special penguin inside it thoughOct 07 17:33
sebsebseb,but there's no coupleOct 07 17:33
MinceRi don't, i use vim :>Oct 07 17:34
sebsebsebit's like the special penguin broke up with it's GNU, for AndroidOct 07 17:34
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sebsebsebbroken loveOct 07 17:34
sebsebsebfor Andorid anywayOct 07 17:34
sebsebsebweird relationshop hehhehOct 07 17:34
Sosumiyeah, but android ins't that great because it's tied to googleOct 07 17:34
sebsebsebDestop Inux etc they are tgetherOct 07 17:34
sebsebseb,but no no not AnroidOct 07 17:34
sebsebsebfor soe reason they  don't like eahOct 07 17:34
sebsebsebeach other when it comes to AndroidOct 07 17:34
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sebsebsebthe alienOct 07 17:34
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sebsebsebSosumi: right bingoOct 07 17:35
sebsebsebSosumi: and Symbian and Meego weren't that great eitherOct 07 17:35
sebsebsebsince they were tighed toNokiaOct 07 17:35
sebsebseband  then well your articleOct 07 17:35
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Sosuminop, they weren't, but at least they weren't used by google in order to snoop on meOct 07 17:35
Sosumithat's on what I wanted to get on when I mentioned the nexus 5Oct 07 17:36
sebsebsebSosumi: watch out GOogle GLass is behind youOct 07 17:36
MinceRthey were tied to a non-m$ nokia, thoughOct 07 17:36
sebsebsebwatch out evene more so,  if your using a public toilet and Google glass is around!Oct 07 17:36
Sosumisince the phone comes with the bootloader unlocked and android is free softwareOct 07 17:37
sebsebsebGoogle gass is scary Oct 07 17:37
sebsebsebin a wyaOct 07 17:37
sebsebsebGoogle Glass  will turn peoe into Googl agents toOct 07 17:37
sebsebsebif it hti ossOct 07 17:37
sebsebseboffOct 07 17:37
sebsebsebin fact it may b a bit ike the MatrixOct 07 17:37
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MinceRthey can be rootedOct 07 17:37
Sosumiwhy not make a "security" enhanced android? with all the google stuff outOct 07 17:38
sebsebsebwith the evil super computer being in   Google etcOct 07 17:38
MinceRSosumi: i think it's called AOSP :>Oct 07 17:38
sebsebsebMinceR: Google glass can be rooted?Oct 07 17:38
MinceRafaik it was already rooted long agoOct 07 17:38
sebsebsebso can gan rootOct 07 17:38
sebsebsebanddo hwateverOct 07 17:38
sebsebsebwithitOct 07 17:38
sebsebseb?Oct 07 17:38
Sosumiglass is wasteOct 07 17:38
Sosumino steroscopic 3d viewOct 07 17:39
MinceRdoesn't need it, it's just a HUD ;)Oct 07 17:39
sebsebseba HUD ?????Oct 07 17:40
sebsebsebSosumi: watch ut, Google glass is right htere, and there and that person wearing it too etc, and hidden away in your home to a pair etcOct 07 17:40
Sosumiheads up displayOct 07 17:40
sebsebsebSosumi: your every move well neary all going to GOogleOct 07 17:40
MinceRHead-Up DisplayOct 07 17:40
sebsebsebGoogle agents spying on SosumiOct 07 17:40
Sosumijust because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they not out to get yaOct 07 17:41
Sosumi*areOct 07 17:41
Sosumi:)Oct 07 17:41
sebsebseboh MinceR  those people are following you with Google glass too   oh and  the Hungarian goverment made a deal with Google, and have access to all the Hungarian Google  glass streas   and well they are coming after you, since they don't like you since you want freedom, and use Linux,  you can't hide, Google glass is all over, they are coming to get you, to put you under arrest for wanting freedom and using LInuxOct 07 17:42
MinceRjoke is on them, glass runs linuxOct 07 17:43
sebsebsebMinceR: heh heh I was just typing n something about that :dOct 07 17:43
sebsebsebbasicaly this:Oct 07 17:43
sebsebsebno no you can't tell them that Google Glass uses Linux, and  use thatOct 07 17:43
sebsebsebit's about deskto linux etcOct 07 17:43
sebsebsebyour not allowed to have freedom  using Desktop Linux in Hungary, it's illegal in the new HUnOct 07 17:44
sebsebsebhungary adyou Oct 07 17:44
sebsebseband to use a desktop or a laptop computer you must use  Windows or Mac OS XOct 07 17:44
MinceRi'll be gone before they get around to thatOct 07 17:46
Sosumijust embed a computer into a bathtub so you can can have a bathtub computerOct 07 17:46
sebsebsebMinceR: so  you said before, whe nI put something ike thatOct 07 17:46
MinceRor embed a bathtub into a computerOct 07 17:46
sebsebseb,but non no Oct 07 17:46
sebsebsebthe borers will be bockedOct 07 17:46
sebsebseba  wall will come up against borders well  for most partsOct 07 17:46
sebsebsebetcOct 07 17:46
sebsebsebyu wilOct 07 17:46
MinceRthey can't afford wallsOct 07 17:46
sebsebsebyou willl be shot if attemtping to cross and caught as wellOct 07 17:47
MinceRthey've spent all the money on stadiaOct 07 17:47
sebsebsebon what?Oct 07 17:47
MinceRstadiumsOct 07 17:47
sebsebsebohOct 07 17:47
sebsebsebfootball ?Oct 07 17:47
MinceRindeedOct 07 17:47
Sosumimeh footballOct 07 17:47
sebsebsebthey willgo cheap an put machine guns that are autoaticalll  detecting of peoleetc, in border crossingsOct 07 17:47
sebsebsebso either way you will  most liely get shotOct 07 17:47
sebsebsebautomatiallicaly detecting of peopleOct 07 17:48
sebsebsebuh net book keyboardOct 07 17:48
MinceRthat too will end my problemsOct 07 17:48
MinceRbut it's another thing they can't afford anywayOct 07 17:48
sebsebsebit will be like this  film I saw, when Scoltand apparaty had a vius or whateve,r  and then teh  border crossing with Englad,  a machine gunOct 07 17:48
sebsebsebany detection of movement, and shoot, poor rabbitOct 07 17:49
MinceRthat's the uk and this is hungaryOct 07 17:49
sebsebsebMinceR: no no that was a filmOct 07 17:49
sebsebsebfictionOct 07 17:49
MinceRhungary is stranger than fictionOct 07 17:50
sebsebsebfiction make beieOct 07 17:50
MinceRwe're having trouble telling real news from fake newsOct 07 17:50
sebsebsebanyway watch out  Sosumi is reallly a spy from your govermentOct 07 17:50
MinceRthis channel is publicly loggedOct 07 17:50
sebsebsebspecificaly here  too spy on youOct 07 17:50
SosumiI spy with my little,Oct 07 17:51
sebsebsebyes, but een though the public logs, they want a witness of the inceOct 07 17:51
sebsebsebMinceR in here so they sent SosumiOct 07 17:51
sebsebseba Hungairan MinceR spy living in Portugal, heh hehOct 07 17:51
Sosumibetter watch out or may take some questionable pics of youOct 07 17:51
Sosumiand demmand some ransom money Oct 07 17:51
Sosumi:)Oct 07 17:51
sebsebsebSosumi: of MinceR yeah Oct 07 17:51
Sosumiand of youOct 07 17:52
sebsebsebyeah you black mail peopleOct 07 17:52
sebsebsebyou bad boy!Oct 07 17:52
SosumilolOct 07 17:53
Sosumibut actually, I saw a guy very similar to you today at my universityOct 07 17:53
sebsebsebSosumi: uh you don't know what I look likeOct 07 17:53
Sosumiyes I doOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebunllessOct 07 17:54
sebsebseboh Oct 07 17:54
sebsebsebSosumi: well i  was going to sayOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebunless you saw my videoOct 07 17:54
sebsebseb,butOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebthose slides.....Oct 07 17:54
Sosumiyeah the slidesOct 07 17:54
Sosumifrom like back in may or soOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebSosumi: yeah that slide show was horrileOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebSosumi: I Think the talk got a bit messed up as a resultOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebhence also why I don't want the site for the event  too just link to themOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebaltough an optionOct 07 17:54
sebsebsebSosumi: plus  I lost  Mageia enthuusiasm at the timeOct 07 17:55
sebsebseband  tried to do something more general but hardwr than I Thought orwhteverOct 07 17:55
sebsebsebno videos of those talks may hae been for beset this tie hmmOct 07 17:56
sebsebsebgo back next year, and do something simiar and better :)Oct 07 17:56
sebsebsebSosumi: oh and speak  at an event in just under two weeks :)Oct 07 17:56
sebsebsebas I was sayingOct 07 17:56
sebsebsebmake sure slies are nicey done before even tralling to that city this time tooOct 07 17:56
sebsebsebor done enoughOct 07 17:56
sebsebsebSosumi: get vidoed etcOct 07 17:56
sebsebsebget a bog ost written upOct 07 17:56
sebsebseband  yep :)Oct 07 17:56
sebsebsebput video onine as well ypeOct 07 17:56
Sosumievery time I had to present somethingOct 07 17:57
sebsebsebSosumi: yep chat at theat eevent that's coming up soonOct 07 17:57
sebsebseband then that one I went to again next yearOct 07 17:57
Sosumiusually ment going to the blackboard do some crazy calculus stuffOct 07 17:57
sebsebsebreally want to d a really good talk next year and suchOct 07 17:58
sebsebsebSosumi: got a cub to hep me learn speaking skills ore, before the one I went too againOct 07 17:58
sebsebsebas wellOct 07 17:58
sebsebsebSosumi: what's nice is I get to do a short talk there  t he day before tralvilng off to the cityOct 07 17:58
sebsebsebfor the one that's coming up osonOct 07 17:58
sebsebsebshould be speaking thre a short talk about something  the day before so a kind of warm up in a wa thenOct 07 17:59
sebsebsebSosumi: what's also awesome is that got a awesome Magiea welcome screne new featureOct 07 17:59
sebsebsebSosumi: that I can show and talk about :)Oct 07 17:59
Sosumidon't forget to show up as gandalf tooOct 07 17:59
Sosumisince mageia basically means magicOct 07 18:00
sebsebsebI am thinking Mageia  2  for the control centre screenshotsOct 07 18:00
sebsebsebin  Gnome and KDEOct 07 18:00
sebsebseband then Mageia 4 Alpha 3 fo the welcoe screen, screenshots and well that looks like Mageia 3 at the momentOct 07 18:00
sebsebsebSosumi: I don't like the look of Mageia 3 muchOct 07 18:00
sebsebseband for my Lightning Talk not to bother with the Mageia 1 lookOct 07 18:01
sebsebsebunles very quckOct 07 18:01
sebsebsebit lolks ugy tooOct 07 18:01
sebsebsebpaine I mean, and that release han't been supported for qutie a whie nowOct 07 18:01
Sosumibash looks the same everywhere :POct 07 18:01
sebsebsebSosumi: KDE ad GnomeOct 07 18:01
sebsebseblook pretty much the same everywehre tooOct 07 18:01
sebsebseband XCE  and LXDE nad what notOct 07 18:02
sebsebsebslight chage of icons, and theme maybe, and that's about itOct 07 18:02
sebsebsebwhere icons go etcOct 07 18:02
Sosumikde with all those permanent notifications in their later releases is kind of dumbOct 07 18:02
sebsebseb,but htose are upstrea projectsOct 07 18:02
sebsebsebSosumi: they want too see distro specific stuf more soOct 07 18:02
sebsebsebat the event I am going toOct 07 18:02
sebsebsebit will be in front of loads of LinuxusersOct 07 18:03
sebsebsebwell many Ubuntu users and suchOct 07 18:03
sebsebsebSosumi: I'll do a talk about the communityOct 07 18:03
sebsebsebhow  it's set upOct 07 18:03
sebsebsebhow we contribute to upstream projects toOct 07 18:03
sebsebsebso yeah like I did before for the LIghtning Talk thenOct 07 18:04
sebsebseband longer fo the other one etc if doinga longer oneOct 07 18:04
sebsebsebSosumi: yep  control centre, wecleom scree, event photosOct 07 18:04
sebsebsebthe diagrom about how the projet is set upOct 07 18:04
sebsebseband  some talk about this and that, and that's that reallyOct 07 18:04
sebsebsebSosumi: did you ever see my Lighting Talk ?Oct 07 18:04
SosuminoOct 07 18:05
sebsebsebSosumi: Mageia Lightning TalkOct 07 18:05
sebsebsebfindi t on YoutubeOct 07 18:05
sebsebsebthere's a eent descripton and the ink to slides tooOct 07 18:05
sebsebsebSosumi: so I plan to do a simia talk to that one, but at http://oggcamp.orgOct 07 18:06
TechrightsBot-troggcamp.org | OggCampOct 07 18:06
sebsebsebto do a  similar Lighting Talk at leastOct 07 18:06
sebsebseb,but hopefuly can get my own room too, then can do one about going fro uer to contributer etc and why, that's longerOct 07 18:06
MinceRgnOct 07 18:06
sebsebseb!google Magiea Lightining TalkOct 07 18:07
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mageia Lightning Talk - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DRo7UrIivYBoOct 07 18:07
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mageia has been visiting Europe | Mageia Blog (English) | http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/07/17/mageia-has-been-visiting-europe/Oct 07 18:07
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - bjoernvold.com  View topic - Mageia 3 | http://bjoernvold.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D32%26t%3D2710%26start%3D12Oct 07 18:07
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - What so special about Mageia ? - SlideShare | http://www.slideshare.net/eurolinux/what-so-special-about-mageiaOct 07 18:07
sebsebsebMinceR: nightOct 07 18:07
Sosumihow many ppl fell asleep or burst into laughter? Oct 07 18:07
Sosumi:POct 07 18:07
sebsebsebSosumi: for the LIghtning Talk I did beoreOct 07 18:08
sebsebseboh it was goodOct 07 18:08
SosumiI'm just jokingOct 07 18:08
sebsebsebSosumi: five guys or so coming up afterowulds wanting tofndout moreOct 07 18:08
sebsebsebSosumi: talking at that event this year, didn't seem to go that wellOct 07 18:08
sebsebsebor  welll  the general talk anywayOct 07 18:08
sebsebsebthe LUG one ok, but wnet over a bitOct 07 18:08
sebsebsebtime wiseOct 07 18:08
sebsebsebSosumi: I feel like I Need too go back next year, and really make sure, that I deliver really good talks when I do :)Oct 07 18:09
sebsebsebSosumi: ,but yeah Liverpool in justunde two weeks :DOct 07 18:09
sebsebsebshould get to speak there this year too :)  unike last yearOct 07 18:10
Sosumithat's niceOct 07 18:10
sebsebsebso yeah got sides to sort out before thenOct 07 18:10
sebsebsebSosumi: oh and tommorwo I findout omething to, that's  not relatedOct 07 18:10
Sosumiwell man, I'm exaustedOct 07 18:14
Sosumiand tomorrow the metro workers are on strikeOct 07 18:15
Sosumiso gn :)Oct 07 18:15
DaemonFCThe US needs someone that has the authority to dismiss Congress and call new elections.Oct 07 18:15
DaemonFCThis is really just about as low as I've ever seen Congress get.Oct 07 18:16
DaemonFCMost other countries would have dissolved their parliament if this kind of thing actually happened.Oct 07 18:16
Sosumidissolve parliament and call in new elections...Oct 07 18:17
Sosumibut if obozo had any guts, all we'd need was to do an executive order scrapping the debt ceiling (like you said) and declare all gov essentialOct 07 18:18
DaemonFCDeclare it all essential and not subject to shutdown, and then invoke the 14th Amendment.Oct 07 18:19
DaemonFCThat would effectively neuter Congress.Oct 07 18:19
DaemonFCThey'd never be able to bullshit us like this again.Oct 07 18:19
DaemonFCIf they don't want to pay for a program, they shouldn't enact that program.Oct 07 18:19
DaemonFCThey shouldn't be able to enact a program and then refuse to pay for it.Oct 07 18:20
DaemonFCIf they want to repeal a program or specifically pass a law that changes the funding level, then that's a valid exercise.Oct 07 18:20
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DaemonFCBut what they're doing is refusing to pay for anything, at all, even though they've passed programs and funding levels that have not been changed.Oct 07 18:21
DaemonFCThe only thing they've been doing since the Republican minority took over is using the debt ceiling to threaten us with every six months or so.Oct 07 18:22
DaemonFCSosumi, I think Obama will get to the point where he has to do what I said he should do.Oct 07 18:23
DaemonFCFor political reasons, he needs to wait until Congress fails to act.Oct 07 18:23
DaemonFCThen he can declare an emergency and invoke his authority to ignore the debt ceiling.Oct 07 18:23
DaemonFCThey might see that coming and agree to raise the debt ceiling to prevent him from setting that precedent.Oct 07 18:24
DaemonFCThey know that if he ever gets that power, he'd never give it back.Oct 07 18:24
DaemonFCand neither would any other presidentOct 07 18:24
DaemonFCSo he's doing the right thing for once.Oct 07 18:24
DaemonFCWhen he says there will be no negotiations under these circumstances.Oct 07 18:24
DaemonFCThe other thing that might happen is the discharge petition.Oct 07 18:27
DaemonFCThe Democrats in the House can force a vote to raise the debt ceiling if they can get enough Republicans to sign on to that.Oct 07 18:28
DaemonFCThen they'd only need to find 18 Republicans that would do that. Enough Republicans probably want this whole thing to go away so they don't lose their next election, that this might happen.Oct 07 18:28
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