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schestowitz_bed2Got a reply regarding Linux Devices:Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> hi Roy,Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> They supposedly are coming up with some sort of agreement for making itOct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> available. I was told 2 weeks ago that their legal group was processing it.Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> I'll ping them again tomorrow, and perhaps should mention that "the freeOct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> software bloggers are getting restless," eh?Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2> -RickOct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2One way or another, the good articles should be made available for history to be preserved. I linked to thousands articles like these and if they're indexed by Google, then I can at least locate them by title/body strings. When there is no written record of past events, they can be denied and history can be rewritten by opportunists (or victors who brush out their victims out of existence, even out of memory). Evidence helps Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2refute a liar even hundreds of years after an event, so bad actions cannot be embellished and good actions or progress can be demonstrated. Yesterday I cited Linux Gizmos about 20 times, noting that Linux (sometimes GNU also) now dominates in devices (Android helps this and ARM facilitates this also). Linux Devices used to have some showcases that several years ago made a largely-maligned platform seem like the rising force which Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2is now somewhat of a de facto standard. Whether this helps digital liberation of some kind of not may not matter much; the matter of fact is, those who advocated Linux for devices won the argument, and their work that accompanied this important trend should be made accessible for all to view retroactively. Imagine what the world would be like if billions of embedded devices ran an underlying platform that's purely proprietary, Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2possibly back-doored, not open to outside contribution, monopolised by one company/board of directors etc. I guess we can never know because we now safely assume that kernel.org is what gets funnelled into a lot of chipsets. It impacts behaviour of programs (e.g. over users). I believe that there is a lot more to software than just code and when code is embedded or made immutable we just have to assume yet more power to the Oct 09 05:33
schestowitz_bed2developer/s over users. This power is abused more often than people realise, the NSA leaks for instance have shown.Oct 09 05:33
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MinceRgeekingsOct 09 09:40
iophkhttp://opensource.com/business/13/10/interview-chris-dibonaOct 09 09:52
TechrightsBot-tropensource.com | Interview with Chris DiBona of Google | opensource.com  [ http://ur1.ca/fuzul ]Oct 09 09:52
iophkhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/377696/why-did-nvidia-cripple-its-linux-driverOct 09 09:52
TechrightsBot-trwww.itworld.com | Why did Nvidia cripple its Linux driver?  | ITworld  [ http://ur1.ca/fuzuo ]Oct 09 09:52
schestowitz_bed2https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387862571766013953 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863131705581570 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863357463609344 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863391378751488Oct 09 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Noam Chomsky | On Shutdown, Waning US Influence, Syrian Showdown  http://t.co/DiDWi00w1l #syria #chomskyOct 09 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> truth-out.org | Noam Chomsky | On Shutdown, Waning US Influence, Syrian ShowdownOct 09 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Bangladesh garment factory fire kills at least 10 people  http://t.co/D8SjBL4Fhi the cost of low-cost clothingOct 09 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.cbc.ca | Bangladesh garment factory fire kills at least 10 people - World - CBC NewsOct 09 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: US/UK spy chiefs cover up NSA surveillance scandal http://t.co/dkH7oHqSTb #nsa #uk #us #surveillance #collusion #hogwashOct 09 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> anniemachon.ch | US/UK spy chiefs cover up NSA surveillance scandal - Using Our IntelligenceOct 09 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Standing out from the crowd http://t.co/d2ykTSMMtiOct 09 09:54
schestowitz_bed2iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387864036068827136Oct 09 09:56
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Open source is brutal: an interview with Google's Chris DiBona  http://t.co/o7zjvIr7qp #google #dibona #freedomOct 09 09:56
schestowitz_bed2https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863761706835968Oct 09 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz: Why did #Nvidia cripple its #Linux driver?  http://t.co/8SbfoqHQSq #windowsOct 09 09:57
schestowitz_bed2off to london till tomorrow night, meeting the authorities in London re DrupalOct 09 09:57
schestowitz_bed2bblOct 09 09:57
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MinceR"The free software world responded to Apple - but not exactly as Stallman wanted. Google came up with Android"Oct 09 09:58
MinceRwow, so many lies in a bit of a statementOct 09 09:58
MinceRof course, this is to be expected of idgOct 09 09:59
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DaemonFC`http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/07/can-the-business-establishment-win-back-the-gop/Oct 09 14:21
TechrightsBot-trwww.washingtonpost.com | Can business take the Republican Party back from the Tea Party?  [ http://ur1.ca/fv0vg ]Oct 09 14:21
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DaemonFCI hate it when that happens.Oct 09 14:22
DaemonFCI made plans to meet the guy that owns that 1996 Crown Victoria today.Oct 09 14:26
DaemonFCIf it's as good as he says it is, then I'll buy it.Oct 09 14:26
DaemonFChttps://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/4114028208.htmlOct 09 14:28
TechrightsBot-trfortwayne.craigslist.org | 1996 Ford Crown Victoria  [ http://ur1.ca/fuvnb ]Oct 09 14:28
DaemonFCMinceR, Is BMW there as bad as it is in the US?Oct 09 14:28
DaemonFCExpensive, not really reliable, replacement parts cost a fortune.Oct 09 14:29
DaemonFCI had a guy trying to sell me a BMW with 265,000 miles on it for like $4,000 a while back.Oct 09 14:29
DaemonFCI told him I wouldn't pay that much for any car with that mileage.Oct 09 14:29
DaemonFCI drove a Mercedes around once, but it was a 1985 model. :POct 09 14:30
DaemonFCMy mom had a friend whose dad died and she was rich, so she just started giving away anything she didn't want.Oct 09 14:31
DaemonFCSo I got that Mercedes.Oct 09 14:31
MinceRDaemonFC: afaik their cluelessness is globelOct 09 14:31
MinceRs/bel/bal/Oct 09 14:31
MinceRalso it seems that they don't seem to be aware of the fact that humans tend to have feetOct 09 14:31
MinceRbut then german vehicles not allowing for legs seems to be a general issueOct 09 14:32
DaemonFCI noticed that a lot of them have manual transmissions.Oct 09 14:32
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would want that.Oct 09 14:32
MinceRi wouldn'tOct 09 14:32
DaemonFCYou pay that much for a car, you want it to have an auto.Oct 09 14:32
MinceRbut some people like to do extra workOct 09 14:32
DaemonFCMinceR, Chrysler had a hybrid transmission for a while.Oct 09 14:32
DaemonFCI think some PT Cruisers have them.Oct 09 14:32
MinceRrobotized manual?Oct 09 14:33
MinceRthose are crap, afaikOct 09 14:33
DaemonFCIt's a manual transmission but you don't have to press down on a clutch pedal when you go to shift.Oct 09 14:33
MinceRespecially if your engine is turbochargedOct 09 14:33
DaemonFCI think they called it an autostick.Oct 09 14:33
MinceRa real automatic transmission would avoid losing chargeOct 09 14:33
DaemonFCI was like "Why would anyone want that?Oct 09 14:33
MinceRhere most cars have manual transmissionOct 09 14:33
MinceRit's a good thing that i learned how to use themOct 09 14:33
DaemonFCI never learned how to drive one.Oct 09 14:34
MinceRbut if it was up to me, i'd get an automaticOct 09 14:34
DaemonFCA company I used to work for sponsored me for a Class B CDL license.Oct 09 14:35
DaemonFCBut the truck they had me driving was an auto.Oct 09 14:35
DaemonFCIt's like parallel parking. I've done that once.Oct 09 14:35
MinceRwhich is parallel parking? parking parallel to the road?Oct 09 14:36
DaemonFCYou had to show the driving instructor that you could do it, so I did, and right when I was parked, this woman in an SUV pulled in an inch behind me.Oct 09 14:36
MinceRi've done that many timesOct 09 14:36
DaemonFCSo I rolled down the window and asked her to back up.Oct 09 14:36
DaemonFC:POct 09 14:36
MinceRparking, not pulling in an inch behind someoneOct 09 14:36
MinceRthat's what my asshole neighbors doOct 09 14:36
DaemonFCWe were trapped. I couldn't get the car out of the parking spot.Oct 09 14:36
DaemonFCThat's one reason I don't do that.Oct 09 14:36
DaemonFCPeople pull in and box you in.Oct 09 14:36
MinceRindeedOct 09 14:36
MinceRbut in hungary, you don't get a lot of choice in parking slotsOct 09 14:37
MinceRapparently these people believe that people just take their cars home in their pockets or something.Oct 09 14:37
DaemonFCI couldn't imagine trying to parallel park a full size sedan like that Crown Vic.Oct 09 14:37
DaemonFCThat would be a nightmare.Oct 09 14:37
MinceRi can see thatOct 09 14:37
MinceRit's a pain enough with my CarinaOct 09 14:37
DaemonFCThe parking spots here are built for midsize sedans.Oct 09 14:37
MinceR:)Oct 09 14:37
DaemonFCI got the guy down to $2,200.Oct 09 14:38
DaemonFCHe seemed hesitant, but I said "A stack of $20s." and then he said "Yeah, I can do that."Oct 09 14:38
DaemonFCIt's a bad economy. Used car prices have gone nuts, but some people just really need money right now.Oct 09 14:39
DaemonFCSo you can gain the upperhand in a negotiation, even today.Oct 09 14:39
DaemonFCMinceR, If this car was on a dealer's lot, they'd price it at about $3200-$3400.Oct 09 14:40
DaemonFCThat's why you don't buy used cars from a dealer, as a general rule.Oct 09 14:40
DaemonFCYou'll always end up on the higher end of the price range for what you're looking at.Oct 09 14:40
DaemonFCThe salesman wants his commission, and they have to build their costs of doing business into the vehicles.Oct 09 14:41
DaemonFCSo take whatever the car is worth private sale, and add 30-40%.Oct 09 14:41
DaemonFCI asked one of those dealers what the "dealer reconditioning fee" of $120 was for.Oct 09 14:41
DaemonFCHe told me they gave it an oil change and washed it.Oct 09 14:41
DaemonFCI told him "Oil change at Walmart: $26. Full service car wash: $10."Oct 09 14:42
DaemonFCBut that's how dealers do you. You get raped.Oct 09 14:42
DaemonFCWhen I get back in town with that car, I'm going to take it through the full service wash.Oct 09 14:43
DaemonFCThen I'm going to have them wax it too.Oct 09 14:43
DaemonFCI thought that back bumper was scuffed, but the guy tells me it's just dirt.Oct 09 14:43
DaemonFC:POct 09 14:43
DaemonFCNot that I wouldn't buy it either way. It's an old car for $2,200, you can't expect perfect.Oct 09 14:43
DaemonFCThe car I have now, both bumpers are broken, and there's rust eating into my rear passenger side quarter panel.Oct 09 14:45
DaemonFCThe car was having electrical problems and the dealer wanted too much to fix them, so I yanked a fuse, and now I have no radio or dome lights.Oct 09 14:45
DaemonFCThe interior is in rough shape.Oct 09 14:45
DaemonFCSomeone broke into my car and tried hotwiring it.Oct 09 14:45
DaemonFCSo the driver door latch is broken.Oct 09 14:46
DaemonFCThey got mad when they failed to hotwire it, and took a knife to some of the upholstery, then stole my CD collection and left.Oct 09 14:46
DaemonFCfuckersOct 09 14:46
DaemonFCThey're so glad I didn't see them doing that or they'd be dead.Oct 09 14:46
DaemonFCSeriously. I would have shot them.Oct 09 14:47
DaemonFCMinceR, My uncle had his house broken into. I told him "They wouldn't need to worry about the police if it was my house. That's what the second amendment is good for."Oct 09 14:48
DaemonFCMinceR, I was in Indianapolis back in 2002, and I was driving through the downtown area at night.Oct 09 14:48
DaemonFCWith my windows down.Oct 09 14:48
DaemonFCAll of a sudden, someone reached in with a knife and tried to carjack me.Oct 09 14:49
DaemonFCSo I hit the "auto-up" button for the window and got their arm caught in it.Oct 09 14:49
DaemonFCThey dropped the knife onto the floor of my car.Oct 09 14:49
DaemonFCI punched the accelerator and dragged them about a block and then rolled down the window.Oct 09 14:49
DaemonFC:POct 09 14:49
DaemonFCI still have their knife.Oct 09 14:50
DaemonFCParts of Fort Wayne have gotten that bad.Oct 09 14:51
DaemonFCMy line of thinking is that if you're in the middle of committing a crime against someone, you're kind of doing it at your own risk.Oct 09 14:52
MinceR:)Oct 09 14:53
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine#4.6.C2.A0LOct 09 14:54
TechrightsBot-tren.wikipedia.org | Ford Modular engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  [ http://ur1.ca/fv10g ]Oct 09 14:54
DaemonFCThe ones build in Michigan are usually alright.Oct 09 14:54
DaemonFCThe ones built in Canada might not be.Oct 09 14:54
DaemonFCThe ones built in Canada before 2003, you don't want.Oct 09 14:55
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4CNpWSenMOct 09 14:56
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Cash for clunkers victims compilation - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/fv10m ]Oct 09 14:56
DaemonFCThey crushed some Crown Vics in Cash For Clunkers.Oct 09 14:56
DaemonFCThat program was just terrible.Oct 09 14:56
DaemonFCEveryone that voted for it needs to be thrown out.Oct 09 14:57
DaemonFC mike maloney 10 months agoOct 09 14:57
DaemonFCfuck the´╗┐ government why dont they crush obamas limos with him inside.Oct 09 14:57
DaemonFCLOLOct 09 14:57
DaemonFCObama has one of those armor plated Cadillacs.Oct 09 14:57
DaemonFCGets about 6 miles per gallon.Oct 09 14:57
DaemonFCWhenever he goes somewhere, he has an entire motorcade complete with cops in those big gas guzzler cop cars.Oct 09 14:58
DaemonFChe holds up traffic for milesOct 09 14:58
DaemonFCThey shut down highways and interstates and cause traffic jams.Oct 09 14:58
DaemonFCHe's really the last person that should be talking about how we need to get tough one gas mileage.Oct 09 14:59
MinceR:>Oct 09 14:59
MinceRour parasites love to lock roads down, tooOct 09 14:59
DaemonFC"We can't leave the world in worse shape for our children!"Oct 09 15:02
DaemonFC*Hops into his armor plated Cadillac with police motorcade, and goes to shut down some more roads on his way to make another 5 minute speech*Oct 09 15:03
MinceR"also, i'm your king so get off my road"Oct 09 15:03
DaemonFCExactly.Oct 09 15:03
DaemonFCHe shut down an interstate highway going through the largest city in the United States during rush hour.Oct 09 15:03
DaemonFCTo make a campaign speech.Oct 09 15:04
DaemonFCDo you think he gives a shit?Oct 09 15:04
MinceRobviously notOct 09 15:04
DaemonFChttp://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/327261/Ford%20Crown%20Victoria%201996.jpgOct 09 15:07
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 15:07
DaemonFCI can see why almost nobody ever sells these things in good condition.Oct 09 15:07
DaemonFCIf they're in good shape, they want to hold onto them forever.Oct 09 15:07
DaemonFCMinceR, The funniest part is that George W. Bush had a similar Cadillac that still worked fine.Oct 09 15:10
DaemonFCThey crushed it and bought Obama a brand new one.Oct 09 15:10
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 15:10
MinceRgot to stimulate the economy... :>Oct 09 15:11
DaemonFCBush's was a 2005 model I think.Oct 09 15:11
DaemonFCNo reason to get rid of it.Oct 09 15:11
DaemonFCMinceR, The economy has gotten so bad that well over half of the cars on the road in Indiana are over 10 years old.Oct 09 15:12
DaemonFCCar repair businesses are booming.Oct 09 15:12
DaemonFCPeople are fixing what they've got instead of trading in for a new car every few years.Oct 09 15:13
DaemonFCPeople are figuring out how dumb they've been for doing that.Oct 09 15:14
DaemonFCA good number of 1990s cars are capable of exceeding 300,000 miles if you just take care of them.Oct 09 15:14
DaemonFC:POct 09 15:14
DaemonFCI see them on dealer lots all the time like that.Oct 09 15:14
DaemonFCThey actually try to sell those.Oct 09 15:14
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4_xjmSGm4Oct 09 15:15
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Gale Boetticher - Major Tom (Coming Home) - Breaking Bad Full Karaoke Version with lyrics - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/fv148 ]Oct 09 15:15
DaemonFCLOLOct 09 15:15
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iophkAll the Nobel prizes being awarded to the US for work that was in the pipes for years or decades.  When the desert started by the Bush era hits, we'll probably see the awards going to EU and maybe China.  The damage that is done now will have its worst affects long down the road.Oct 09 15:17
DaemonFCBush propped up the economy in some really reckless and unsustainable ways.Oct 09 15:18
DaemonFCLike the insane military spending, the tax cuts, and letting the housing bubble run its entire course.Oct 09 15:19
iophkOnly parts of the economy.  Other areas like research tanked.Oct 09 15:19
iophkResearch has a big payoff but a long lead time.  Oct 09 15:20
iophkBy the time we feel the drought, it will be a long one.Oct 09 15:20
DaemonFCWith the way the 1990s went in the US, I'm not sure that anyone could have had the entire thing fall apart on them before 2008.Oct 09 15:20
DaemonFCMinceR, I'll pay my sales tax, title, and plate fees with my credit card.Oct 09 15:39
DaemonFCThat way, I get some of it back.Oct 09 15:39
DaemonFCDamned state.Oct 09 15:39
DaemonFCDamned taxes.Oct 09 15:39
DaemonFCOr I could just ask the guy if he'd fill out the bill of sale for a different amount.Oct 09 15:40
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 15:40
MinceR:)Oct 09 15:40
DaemonFCMinceR, That was a $500 car!Oct 09 15:40
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 15:40
DaemonFCCan you believe my luck? :)Oct 09 15:40
MinceRyou mean $1?Oct 09 15:41
DaemonFCWell, if you go too low, some of them choose to get suspicious and calculate the "fair market value" of the car.Oct 09 15:41
DaemonFCThen charge you that.Oct 09 15:41
DaemonFCI've never had the problem before.Oct 09 15:41
DaemonFCAnything beats paying them $150 in tax because you bought property.Oct 09 15:43
MinceR:)Oct 09 15:44
DaemonFCMinceR, Stallman was right.Oct 09 15:46
DaemonFCIf the rich don't pay their tax, why should anyone?Oct 09 15:46
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 15:46
MinceR:)Oct 09 15:49
DaemonFCMinceR, I went ahead and got a "Secure ID" last time I updated my license.Oct 09 15:51
DaemonFCThey're making it difficult to do things without one now.Oct 09 15:51
DaemonFCI went to pull a copy of my birth certificate without one and they wouldn't give me it.Oct 09 15:51
DaemonFCSo I went rummaging through boxes and found the original. While I was at it, I decided to just go ahead and get the new driver's license.Oct 09 15:52
DaemonFChttp://www.in.gov/bmv/2356.htmOct 09 15:52
TechrightsBot-trwww.in.gov | BMV: SecureID Driver's License and ID CardsOct 09 15:52
MinceRdamn, their site is slowOct 09 15:53
MinceRis this RFID?Oct 09 15:53
DaemonFCIt's "REAL ID" compliant.Oct 09 15:54
MinceRand what's that?Oct 09 15:55
DaemonFCEventually you won't be able to get on a plane or enter a federal building without one.Oct 09 15:55
DaemonFCIt's a set of requirements that the federal government imposed on the states.Oct 09 15:55
DaemonFCMakes you prove that you're really you and where you live before you can get one. You have to bring in a mountain of paperwork.Oct 09 15:55
DaemonFCBirth certificate, social security card, an unexpired Indiana driver's license, three bills with your current address on it.Oct 09 15:56
DaemonFCI think I even had to bring a copy of my lease.Oct 09 15:56
DaemonFC:POct 09 15:56
MinceRbut is it RFID? :>Oct 09 15:56
DaemonFCThe cards also have extra "security" features on them.Oct 09 15:56
DaemonFCYeah. It has an RFID chip in it.Oct 09 15:56
DaemonFCAs well as a barcode and magnetic strip on the back.Oct 09 15:56
DaemonFCSo if the RFID chip doesn't work, the cops can slide it or scan it and it will bring up your information on their computer in their police car.Oct 09 15:57
MinceRthey really went for the kitchen sink...Oct 09 15:57
DaemonFCOh yeah.Oct 09 15:57
MinceRi got two "RFID blocking" wallets this weekOct 09 15:57
MinceRthey don't seem to workOct 09 15:57
DaemonFCBars are also required to have them.Oct 09 15:57
MinceRi put my entry card into them and i could read it through the wallet at the doorOct 09 15:58
DaemonFCBefore you can go in, they slide or scan the card, and the state will tell them if you're really old enough to enter.Oct 09 15:58
DaemonFC:POct 09 15:58
DaemonFCIt stops kids from using fake IDs.Oct 09 15:58
DaemonFCI went into a county courthouse last year, and they slid my driver's license and told me that it was alright for me to enter.Oct 09 15:58
DaemonFCI said "Well, it should be, seeing as how I paid for all of this and your salary."Oct 09 15:59
DaemonFCThe guy rolled his eyes at me.Oct 09 15:59
MinceR:>Oct 09 15:59
MinceRdid you catch his eyes? :>Oct 09 15:59
DaemonFC:/Oct 09 15:59
DaemonFCThen the metal detector went off.Oct 09 16:00
DaemonFCThey made me stand there and get patted down.Oct 09 16:00
DaemonFCThen they took a handheld scanner and went over me, and it turned out that what was setting it off was my belt buckle and the rivets in my jeans.Oct 09 16:00
MinceR:>Oct 09 16:00
DaemonFCThey're getting really nasty.Oct 09 16:00
DaemonFC20 years ago, you just walked right in.Oct 09 16:00
MinceRhow dare you wear riveted jeansOct 09 16:00
MinceRand a belt buckle of all things? :>Oct 09 16:00
DaemonFCYeah, I know, right? :)Oct 09 16:01
DaemonFCAre you in possession of anything that could harm another person?Oct 09 16:01
DaemonFCWell, yeah, but so is everyone else.Oct 09 16:01
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 16:01
DaemonFC"No."Oct 09 16:01
DaemonFCNot like you're going to stand there and tell them how stupid that question is.Oct 09 16:02
MinceR"fists, knees, elbows, legs..."Oct 09 16:02
DaemonFCYou can strangle someone with your belt.Oct 09 16:02
DaemonFCor your handsOct 09 16:02
DaemonFCor you can punch themOct 09 16:02
MinceR"i can harm people's feelings using sarcasm"Oct 09 16:02
DaemonFCor you can stab them in the neck with your ballpoint penOct 09 16:02
MinceRor i could use profanityOct 09 16:02
DaemonFCyou could headbutt someoneOct 09 16:02
DaemonFCyou could bite themOct 09 16:03
DaemonFC:POct 09 16:03
MinceRi could step on their footOct 09 16:03
DaemonFCor kick them in the ballsOct 09 16:03
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 16:03
MinceRor tear off their bandages with great force and speedOct 09 16:04
DaemonFCor do like Riddick did, and kill them with your teacupOct 09 16:04
MinceR:)Oct 09 16:04
DaemonFC"I can't quite pinch your carotid arteries shut using the power of my mind, yet, but I'll keep trying."Oct 09 16:06
MinceRi canOct 09 16:07
*DaemonFC needs to get ready to go see that car.Oct 09 16:07
MinceRi just need to funnel the power of my mind through my nerves to my handsOct 09 16:08
DaemonFCI like that color too. It's Ford's Toreador Red.Oct 09 16:08
DaemonFCUnfortunately, red cars stand out more, so they get pulled over more.Oct 09 16:08
DaemonFCI do have a radar detector though.Oct 09 16:08
DaemonFCI haven't gotten a speeding ticket since I bought it.Oct 09 16:08
DaemonFCI've had it since like 2002.Oct 09 16:09
DaemonFCI got pulled over like three times in the course of 6 months, and kept getting warnings.Oct 09 16:09
DaemonFCI decided a radar detector would be a good investment.Oct 09 16:09
DaemonFCIf they save you from one ticket, they've already more than paid for themselves.Oct 09 16:09
DaemonFCThe minimum fine for speeding in Indiana now is over $150.Oct 09 16:09
DaemonFCIf you're going 10 miles per hour over the posted limit in a construction or school zone, they can fine you up to $1,000.Oct 09 16:10
MinceRi just read the police web site about where they're measuringOct 09 16:10
MinceRand tend to drive legally anywayOct 09 16:10
DaemonFCIf you're going 15 miles an hour over, they can give you the $150 ticket, plus a $500 reckless driving ticket, plus 4 points on your license.Oct 09 16:10
DaemonFCand if it's in a school or construction zone, each fine can be multiplied by four and they can take away your license for a year.Oct 09 16:11
DaemonFCthen you have to go to a remedial driving class at your expense, and pass it, before you can get your license backOct 09 16:11
DaemonFCthen they make you carry an SR-22 for the next several years, which makes your insurance about triple what it used to beOct 09 16:12
DaemonFCouchOct 09 16:12
MinceRwhat's an SR-22?Oct 09 16:12
DaemonFCAn SR-22 is a form from your insurance company that is proof of financial responsibility under a high risk car insurance policyOct 09 16:13
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 16:13
DaemonFCThey usually make people carry them if they've had a DUI or too many speeding tickets.Oct 09 16:13
DaemonFCDawn had to carry one.Oct 09 16:13
MinceRicOct 09 16:13
DaemonFCShe was paying $120 a month for state minimum car insurance.Oct 09 16:13
DaemonFCI pay $24 a month for the same coverage.Oct 09 16:13
DaemonFCThey consider me low risk.Oct 09 16:14
DaemonFCThey don't know me very well.Oct 09 16:14
DaemonFCIf they saw what I've done to that poor Taurus, they wouldn't be charging me $24.Oct 09 16:14
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 16:14
MinceR:)Oct 09 16:15
DaemonFCAlthough to be perfectly fair, the back bumper was destroyed because I hit black ice.Oct 09 16:15
DaemonFCand the front bumper was from when my brakes failed and I hit a building.Oct 09 16:15
DaemonFCBut nobody saw that, so I was OK, other than the broken bumper.Oct 09 16:15
DaemonFC:POct 09 16:15
DaemonFCI had just had the brakes inspected too.Oct 09 16:16
DaemonFCThey told me there was nothing wrong with them.Oct 09 16:16
DaemonFCWell, other than the ABS master control that I never bothered to fix.Oct 09 16:16
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 16:16
DaemonFCI think I'm just going to sell that electric bicycle.Oct 09 16:17
DaemonFCThe cost for the batteries has tripled since I bought it.Oct 09 16:17
DaemonFCI need two replacements and I don't feel like spending $600 on that.Oct 09 16:18
DaemonFC:POct 09 16:18
DaemonFCThe whole reason I got it was because I figured I could save some gas on short trips around town.Oct 09 16:18
DaemonFCand still be lazy and not like, you know, peddle or anythingOct 09 16:18
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 16:18
MinceRso, what happened?Oct 09 16:23
DaemonFCThe sealed lead acid batteries are junk.Oct 09 16:24
DaemonFCThe lithium ion ones are over $300 each.Oct 09 16:24
DaemonFChttp://imagescdn.dealercarsearch.com/Media/6003/3391728/635127451381384468.jpgOct 09 16:24
DaemonFChmmmOct 09 16:24
DaemonFCThat one is in Ohio.Oct 09 16:24
*DaemonFC doesn't feel like driving to Ohio to buy a car though.Oct 09 16:24
DaemonFCToo much paperwork.Oct 09 16:24
MinceRjunk as in too low capacity?Oct 09 16:25
MinceRor too heavy?Oct 09 16:25
MinceRor dead?Oct 09 16:26
DaemonFCtoo heavy and they don't last through too many charge cycles.Oct 09 16:26
MinceRi'm surprised by the secondOct 09 16:26
MinceRit seems to work well enough in cars :)Oct 09 16:26
DaemonFCThey say they last about 500 cycles. but I had one die already after less than 100 and the other one is only charging to about halfOct 09 16:26
DaemonFCMinceR, I offered the guy $2,100, but he talked me up to $2,200.Oct 09 16:35
DaemonFCHe pointed out that he just put four brand new Michelin tires on it last year.Oct 09 16:35
DaemonFCYeah, that's reasonable I guess.Oct 09 16:36
DaemonFCThose probably set him back at least $600Oct 09 16:36
DaemonFCmaybe more.Oct 09 16:36
DaemonFCdepends on the tire modelOct 09 16:36
DaemonFCI'm going to ask him to transfer over the tire warranty to me.Oct 09 16:36
DaemonFCThose suckers are expensive to replace.Oct 09 16:37
DaemonFCI always got the cheapest set of Goodyear tires for the Taurus.Oct 09 16:37
DaemonFCSeems like I always run over a nail or something while the tire is still good.Oct 09 16:37
DaemonFCI don't really like the idea of getting the best set of tires and then running over a nail with those.Oct 09 16:38
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 16:38
DaemonFCGoodyear has "fuel saver" tires now that they claim will increase your gas mileage by about 3%.Oct 09 16:38
DaemonFCIndependent tests show no change in fuel economy though.Oct 09 16:38
DaemonFCMarketing bullshit.Oct 09 16:38
DaemonFCHelps justify the added expense of the tires.Oct 09 16:39
DaemonFCohhhOct 09 16:41
DaemonFCgood timingOct 09 16:41
DaemonFCfree 6" Elmo's Italian sub.Oct 09 16:41
DaemonFCI have to go buy Elmo's anyway on my way up to look at that car.Oct 09 16:41
DaemonFCMight as well stop and get lunch.Oct 09 16:41
DaemonFCTime to head on up there.Oct 09 16:44
DaemonFCFirst one there with the cash gets the car.Oct 09 16:44
DaemonFCGuy said he'd be back home at 1, so I have to get there.Oct 09 16:44
DaemonFC:POct 09 16:44
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iophkbig grab for people's dataOct 09 18:09
iophkhttp://www.computerworlduk.com/news/security/3472909/mi5-head-says-prism-scandal-is-handing-advantage-terrorists/Oct 09 18:11
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iophkDelphi and MSOOct 09 19:06
iophkWhy not lazarus if pascal is required ? http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/Oct 09 19:08
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iophkThere's also FPCOct 09 19:09
iophkhttp://www.freepascal.org/Oct 09 19:09
TechrightsBot-trwww.freepascal.org | Free Pascal - Advanced open source Pascal compiler for Pascal and Object Pascal - Home PageOct 09 19:09
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DaemonFCWe have a winner.Oct 09 20:21
DaemonFCThe 1996 Ford Crown Victoria LX.Oct 09 20:21
DaemonFCThat thing is in awesome shape.Oct 09 20:21
DaemonFCThe guy said he could drive it over here tomorrow and we could do the sale at the DMV offive here in town.Oct 09 20:22
DaemonFC*officeOct 09 20:22
MinceR:)Oct 09 20:22
MinceRhow much?Oct 09 20:22
DaemonFC$2,200Oct 09 20:22
DaemonFCIt's got power everything and 94,600 miles on the odometer.Oct 09 20:22
MinceR:)Oct 09 20:22
DaemonFCNo rust at all.,Oct 09 20:22
DaemonFCMinceR, Other than a few small scratches that I can buff out, it looks like it came off the lot yesterday.Oct 09 20:23
DaemonFCThat's an incredible deal.Oct 09 20:23
DaemonFCThey wanted $2,500 up at City Auto Mall for that 2004 Crown Vic that someone beat to hell and back, and it had 130,000 miles on it.Oct 09 20:24
DaemonFCAnd it was missing a chunk out of the front grill.Oct 09 20:24
DaemonFCand the transmission wasn't looking too goodOct 09 20:24
DaemonFCand there was an exhaust leakOct 09 20:25
DaemonFCand one of the ABS sensors was shotOct 09 20:25
DaemonFCand the blend door motor was going to need replacedOct 09 20:25
DaemonFCand the list just went on and onOct 09 20:25
DaemonFCThis 1996 model is not only cheaper, there's less miles on it and it's just in all around better shape.Oct 09 20:26
DaemonFCThat's the difference between an owner that maintains their car and one that just lets it go.Oct 09 20:26
DaemonFCMinceR, And it has a brand new set of Michelin tires on it.Oct 09 20:27
DaemonFCHis mom just put them on last winter.Oct 09 20:27
DaemonFCThey have pretty much all the tread left.Oct 09 20:27
DaemonFCand he said she only used Premium gasoline (even though the car doesn't need that)Oct 09 20:27
DaemonFCshe kept it in the garageOct 09 20:27
DaemonFCIt's worth more than I'm getting it for, I think the guy just needs the money right now and he's letting it go for less because I have cash in hand.Oct 09 20:28
DaemonFCIf he wanted to wait for a while, he'd probably find someone that would pay $3,000 for it.Oct 09 20:28
DaemonFCMinceR, The only interior problems that I discovered were minor ones.Oct 09 20:29
DaemonFCThe radio won't turn off, but you can turn the volume all the way down.Oct 09 20:29
DaemonFCand the rear driver's side door lock had a cap that his kid unscrewed and lostOct 09 20:29
DaemonFCI can probably get a replacement cap for a couple dollars, and I'm going to replace the radio deck with one that has a CD player anyway. :)Oct 09 20:30
DaemonFCSo, his mother only put an average of 5,255 miles on it each year.Oct 09 20:31
DaemonFCThat's an extremely low mileage.Oct 09 20:31
DaemonFCI see '07s and '08s with 150,000+ on them.Oct 09 20:31
DaemonFCall the timeOct 09 20:31
DaemonFCpeople drive further to work than they used toOct 09 20:31
DaemonFCThe economy is so bad now that driving 30 miles or more to work is common.Oct 09 20:32
DaemonFCMy mom's Impala has about 275,000 on it, and it's an '03Oct 09 20:32
DaemonFCI only put like two or three thousand miles on my car every year.Oct 09 20:33
DaemonFCI just want a nicer car.Oct 09 20:33
DaemonFCThe Taurus is literally rotting.Oct 09 20:33
DaemonFCI looked underneath the car today and I kind of wish I hadn't.Oct 09 20:33
DaemonFCIt's that bad.Oct 09 20:33
DaemonFCMinceR, That's exactly what I was looking for. A late model grandma car that was garaged, maintained, and driven to the grocery store and church and back into the garage.Oct 09 20:34
DaemonFCYou find those every so often. Where the car is like 20 years old, but low mileage and great shape.Oct 09 20:34
MinceRi thought short trips didn't do good to carsOct 09 20:34
DaemonFCI'm not worried about this car.Oct 09 20:34
DaemonFCThose Ford 4.6 liter modular V8s can take some serious punishment.Oct 09 20:35
DaemonFCThe police departments run them 24 hours a day and put 150,000 miles of chasing speeders and running over sidewalks and shit on them.Oct 09 20:35
DaemonFCand when they get rid of them, they still run.Oct 09 20:35
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 20:35
DaemonFCThat's why taxi companies buy them.Oct 09 20:36
*DaemonFC needs to get better car insurance now.Oct 09 20:36
DaemonFCI'm going to do comprehensive and collision and double my liability coverage.Oct 09 20:36
DaemonFCYou just know that with my luck, the retards that the city has plowing the roads will run into it.Oct 09 20:37
DaemonFCOr a tree will fall over on it.Oct 09 20:37
DaemonFC:POct 09 20:37
DaemonFCAt this point, I just have minimum coverage on the Taurus because I don't give a shit about it.Oct 09 20:37
DaemonFCIf a tree fell over on it, the insurance company might cut me a check for $900, and I've saved more than that by having minimum coverage since I've owned it.Oct 09 20:38
DaemonFCbut with this Crown Vic, they'd go NADA black book and probably give me $3500-4000 if it was totaled.Oct 09 20:38
DaemonFCSo it's worth buying more coverage.Oct 09 20:39
DaemonFCThat Taurus is in such bad shape, I'm surprised I haven't put my foot through the floor yet.Oct 09 20:39
DaemonFCThe owner before me lived in Michigan where they get REALLY harsh winters.Oct 09 20:40
DaemonFCand it's obvious that he never bothered to wash the undercarriageOct 09 20:40
DaemonFCI think it's cumulative road salt damage.Oct 09 20:40
DaemonFCThere's no reversing it.Oct 09 20:40
iophksalt quotasOct 09 20:40
DaemonFCThis dude with the Crown Vic said his mom lived in Florida until a few years ago.Oct 09 20:40
DaemonFCSo it's never really been around any Indiana winters.Oct 09 20:41
DaemonFCiophk, Yeah.Oct 09 20:41
DaemonFCThe city waits for a fucking blizzard and then shows up and salts at......4 PM, when the sun has already came out and melted most of it off anyway.Oct 09 20:41
MinceRthey could make the government obey the same rules they force on citizensOct 09 20:41
DaemonFCand then taxpayers have to pay them $15 an hourOct 09 20:41
iophkgotta salt the roads during the winter even if it is only rainingOct 09 20:41
DaemonFCfor ruining their carsOct 09 20:42
MinceR(no salt, only a more expensive but safer stuff)Oct 09 20:42
MinceR(not sure what it's made of)Oct 09 20:42
DaemonFC<MinceR> they could make the government obey the same rules they force on citizensOct 09 20:42
DaemonFCHah.Oct 09 20:42
DaemonFCHAHAHA!!!Oct 09 20:42
MinceR:>Oct 09 20:42
DaemonFCBWAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!Oct 09 20:42
DaemonFCthat's a knee slapperOct 09 20:42
MinceRi know, it's called 'rule of law'Oct 09 20:42
MinceRhungarians don't know about itOct 09 20:42
DaemonFCThe goa'uld probably have better government than Indiana's.Oct 09 20:42
DaemonFCMinceR, We have laws, they just get selectively enforced.Oct 09 20:43
DaemonFCand when they get enforced, they get enforced on some people more than othersOct 09 20:43
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 20:43
DaemonFCIt's like when Winston Smith realized that nothing was illegal because there were no longer any laws.Oct 09 20:44
MinceRsame hereOct 09 20:44
DaemonFCThey do whatever they want, to whoever they want, whenever they want to do it.Oct 09 20:44
MinceRexcept for Winston SmithOct 09 20:44
MinceReverything is illegalOct 09 20:44
MinceRin a modern dictatorshipOct 09 20:44
MinceRso they can lawfully have the police take anyone away if they want toOct 09 20:45
DaemonFCMinceR, Did you know that oral sex is a felony in Indiana?Oct 09 20:45
DaemonFCHasn't been enforced since the 1960s.Oct 09 20:45
MinceRi didn't knowOct 09 20:45
DaemonFCHasn't been enforceable since 2003.Oct 09 20:45
DaemonFCbut they keep it on the booksOct 09 20:45
DaemonFCIt's a way of shaming people without really being able to do anything about it at all.Oct 09 20:45
DaemonFCand then you find out that the Indiana General Assembly members are paying 18 year old male prostitutes they met off of Craigslist.Oct 09 20:46
MinceRwell, the hypocrite cultists would get their panties in a bunch if people wanted to take it off the booksOct 09 20:46
DaemonFCYeah, there's people I want moral advice from.Oct 09 20:46
DaemonFC"Suck my dick and I'll give you an ipad!"Oct 09 20:46
DaemonFCseriouslyOct 09 20:46
DaemonFCThat's who makes our laws.Oct 09 20:46
MinceR(because only priests are allowed to get blowjobs, preferably from little boys)Oct 09 20:46
DaemonFCI don't think there's anything I need to learn from them.Oct 09 20:47
DaemonFCI don't think that it's an institution that deserves respect.Oct 09 20:47
DaemonFCIt's hypocritical and they need to be ridiculed at every possible opportunity.Oct 09 20:47
DaemonFCMinceR, Did you hear what Indiana's General Assembly did last week?Oct 09 20:48
DaemonFCThey raised the tolls on the Indiana toll road (the one that goes to Chicago) and then passed another law that says that they get to use that road for free, whenever they want.Oct 09 20:48
MinceR:>Oct 09 20:49
MinceRhttp://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/22344000/ngbbs4d35e657e7635.jpgOct 09 20:50
DaemonFCThey dipped into the state's general fund to install a system that scans for devices they had installed in their personal vehicles.Oct 09 20:50
DaemonFCand it automatically waves the toll for them and raises the gate!!!Oct 09 20:50
DaemonFCand we're paying for this!Oct 09 20:50
DaemonFCI mean, I could understand installing those devices into state-owned vehicles for cops and stuff.Oct 09 20:51
DaemonFCas long as they were on official state business when they used the roadOct 09 20:51
DaemonFCSeveral state senators (all Democrats) refused the devices and said it wasn't fair for them to not pay the same toll that everyone else did.Oct 09 20:51
DaemonFCThose are the people that need re-elected.Oct 09 20:52
DaemonFCProbably one out of every ten that's in there.Oct 09 20:52
DaemonFCthey've really let that road go too.Oct 09 20:52
DaemonFCIt used to be the best road in Indiana.Oct 09 20:52
DaemonFCThey repaved it about every year.Oct 09 20:52
DaemonFCNow it's full of potholes.Oct 09 20:53
DaemonFCI saw one that was so big that it could probably break an axle the last time I drove on that road.Oct 09 20:53
DaemonFCThey have the money to fix it. The road generates alot of revenue, but they don't fix it.Oct 09 20:53
DaemonFCThat all started when they privatized it.Oct 09 20:53
DaemonFCMinceR, The suspension in that Crown Vic is awesome.Oct 09 20:58
DaemonFCCouldn't feel a single bump in the road.Oct 09 20:58
DaemonFCMy Taurus is so bad right now that when you get it up to 65, it feels like the car is going to shake itself apart. :POct 09 20:58
MinceR:)Oct 09 20:59
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MinceRsounds like you might be better off with an SUV after all :>Oct 09 20:59
DaemonFCThe guy says it handles very well on the snow. I said I believe him because it's enormous and heavy.Oct 09 20:59
DaemonFCWell, you should see the trunk on that Vic.Oct 09 20:59
DaemonFCI'm 6'4 and about 170 pounds.Oct 09 20:59
DaemonFCI actually got into the trunk.Oct 09 21:00
DaemonFCThere was probably room for three of me in there.Oct 09 21:00
DaemonFCIt's the perfect car to have if a friend needs you to dispose of some bodies.Oct 09 21:00
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 21:01
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MinceR:)Oct 09 21:01
DaemonFCMinceR, I've found my car.Oct 09 21:01
MinceR"dude, where's my car?"Oct 09 21:01
DaemonFCI was leaning towards maybe getting an SUV or a minivan, but this Crown Vic is just so awesome.Oct 09 21:02
DaemonFCPlus all the used vans I came across were in really bad shape.Oct 09 21:02
DaemonFCIf you find a used van for under $4,000, it's either rusted out or has 200,000 miles on it.Oct 09 21:02
DaemonFCSo if I went for a van, I would have needed about $5,000 instead of $2,200.Oct 09 21:02
DaemonFC:POct 09 21:02
DaemonFCI'm sick of scrimping and saving. I'm not going to find a better car than this unless I save up like $6,000 or more, probably.Oct 09 21:03
DaemonFCI don't feel like being miserable and going without for another year.Oct 09 21:03
MinceRhttp://pics.nase-bohren.de/visited-washington.jpgOct 09 21:04
DaemonFCThe car to price ratio on this is just about as good as it gets.Oct 09 21:04
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DaemonFCWell, we both came out with a good deal.Oct 09 21:04
DaemonFCI get a totally badass car, and he gets a big stack of $20 bills.Oct 09 21:04
DaemonFCYou can get a much better deal with a private sale than a dealer.Oct 09 21:05
DaemonFCIf this car was at a dealer lot, it would be about $3,400 and then they'd stick you with a $120 "documentation fee".Oct 09 21:06
DaemonFCThey use those fees so that they can sneak in another $120 at the end of the sale.Oct 09 21:06
DaemonFCMakes the cars look a little cheaper than they actually are.Oct 09 21:06
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DaemonFCMinceR, There was a car dealership that my parents bought a couple of new vehicles from in the 90s.Oct 09 21:07
DaemonFCThey had a commercial "If you buy this stuffed bear at our price, you get the vehicle at no additional charge".Oct 09 21:07
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 21:07
DaemonFCI guess it was supposed to be funny, but it was too close to the truth.Oct 09 21:07
DaemonFCThe dealers make you pay all kinds of stupid fees so they can price the cars lower.Oct 09 21:08
DaemonFCYou're really in for a raping if you buy new.Oct 09 21:08
DaemonFCNot only does the vehicle lose 20% of the value right after you drive it off the lot, but they cram in that $120 documentation fee, *and* a $300 fee for driving it from the factory to their lot.Oct 09 21:09
DaemonFC:)Oct 09 21:09
DaemonFCDon't they kind of have to do that anyway?Oct 09 21:09
DaemonFCIsn't it just a cost of doing business? :DOct 09 21:09
DaemonFCThey also have this thing called "Invoice pricing" where they say that there is no markup, you're buying it for what they got it for from the factory.Oct 09 21:10
DaemonFCSo you say "that makes no sense at all".Oct 09 21:10
DaemonFCIt does.Oct 09 21:10
DaemonFCThey sell you the vehicle at invoice, and then the company that made the car gives them a 20% "rebate".Oct 09 21:11
DaemonFCThe new car market is the worst it's ever been.Oct 09 21:11
DaemonFCA new Ford Taurus for the 2014 model is $43,000 now.Oct 09 21:11
DaemonFCThen since nobody can actually cough up $43,000, they finance it at high interest.Oct 09 21:12
DaemonFCSo you really pay like $60,000 when you're done.Oct 09 21:12
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DaemonFCThat sub that I got on the way back was delicious.Oct 09 21:13
DaemonFCI looking into the batch of coupons that came in the junk mail today and I found one for a free toasted italian sub at Elmo's.Oct 09 21:13
DaemonFCSo I took some potato chips with me and bought a fountain pop for a dollar.Oct 09 21:14
DaemonFCThis is turning into a really good day.Oct 09 21:14
DaemonFCIt's like everything is just going right.Oct 09 21:14
DaemonFCWhy not?Oct 09 21:15
*DaemonFC turns up the subwoofer.Oct 09 21:15
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6MOct 09 21:15
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*MinceR is listening to: Sonata Arctica - Reckoning Night - 2. Blinded No MoreOct 09 21:16
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pm4fQRl72kOct 09 21:20
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DaemonFCThere we go. :)Oct 09 21:20
DaemonFCI might swing by Ziebart and have them detail that car.Oct 09 21:21
DaemonFChttp://www.ziebart.com/ziebart---home/auto-detailing/scratch-scuff-repairOct 09 21:23
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DaemonFCOh cool.Oct 09 21:23
DaemonFCI might have them do that too.Oct 09 21:23
DaemonFCThere were a few nicks and scratches here and there.Oct 09 21:23
DaemonFCYeah. I'm going to get those taken care of now before they start rusting. :)Oct 09 21:23
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4gVfxhPvxkOct 09 21:26
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DaemonFCMinceR, Party on dude!Oct 09 21:26
DaemonFCBe excellent to each other!Oct 09 21:26
DaemonFCB-)Oct 09 21:26
DaemonFCThe last time I had the Taurus in the shop, they offered to replace the muffler.Oct 09 21:28
DaemonFCI said "Have you....looked at the rest of the car? No thanks."Oct 09 21:29
DaemonFCA new muffler would cost me more than the car is worth.Oct 09 21:30
DaemonFCI've gotten to the point where just about anything I do to it approaches the value of the car.Oct 09 21:30
DaemonFCSo the exhaust comes out of the holes in the side instead of the tailpipe?Oct 09 21:30
MinceRhttps://github.com/WhiteHouse/fortyfour/issues/3Oct 09 21:30
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