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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/brazil-spying-report-spotlights-canadas-electronic-eavesdroppers/article14720003/#dashboard/follows/ | Oct 10 05:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theglobeandmail.com | Charges that Canada spied on Brazil unveil CSEC's inner workings - The Globe and Mail [ http://ur1.ca/fv5eu ] | Oct 10 05:10 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS2Ba9gTPOo | Oct 10 05:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | GPS Allstate TV Commercial - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5ge ] | Oct 10 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Sync with Microsoft! | Oct 10 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWC6PWSJ50s | Oct 10 05:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Test Driver Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5gr ] | Oct 10 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhyQgskfjNc | Oct 10 05:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Guard Dog Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5he ] | Oct 10 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8JZwh5ZHY | Oct 10 05:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Tree Branch Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5hh ] | Oct 10 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | SHaky shaky! | Oct 10 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDL7RqPr5c | Oct 10 05:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Lawn Game Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5hw ] | Oct 10 05:29 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC_UXK1vvds | Oct 10 05:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Text Walker Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5jd ] | Oct 10 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The guy I am buying the Crown Vic from mentioned how messed up our government is. | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | I told him it's like that Alien Vs. Predator tagline. | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Whoever wins, we lose." | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | You've got the business criminals and the Nazis. | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I'd rather have ordinary business criminals running things than Nazis. | Oct 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | But they're both bad. | Oct 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of these Tea Party people are really just neoconfederates. | Oct 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's that "States Rights Democratic Party" bullshit from the 1960s all over again. | Oct 10 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | When bad stuff happens, extremists get a foothold in government. | Oct 10 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that actual Nazis are taking over slowly in Greece. | Oct 10 06:17 |
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| MinceR | they already took over here | Oct 10 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't suppose the idle threats about being expelled from the EU are slowing them down at all. | Oct 10 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 06:53 |
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| MinceR | they didn't slow them down at all | Oct 10 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kernschevysuperstore.com/detail.aspx?id=3391728&PrefID=0&.aspx | Oct 10 06:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.kernschevysuperstore.com | 1996 Ford Crown Victoria - Used Sedan Lima OH | Kerns Chevrolet Buick GMC [ http://ur1.ca/fv5v9 ] | Oct 10 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | I got my mom looking at that one. | Oct 10 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | Dave couldn't understand why I wanted one. | Oct 10 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | I told him "It's big, reliable, fast, and cheap." | Oct 10 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | The ricers get some o them, but at least they're dealing with a real car. Not a Honda Civic. :) | Oct 10 06:57 |
| MinceR | afaik honda civics are real cars | Oct 10 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | The only argument for a Honda Civic is it gets good gas mileage. | Oct 10 06:59 |
| MinceR | and that it's reliable | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it should, because it takes three of them to equal one car | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | You get into a wreck and you're finished. | Oct 10 06:59 |
| MinceR | well, there's that | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | The entire car is a crumple zone. | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it's basically a fiberglass body on a motorcycle engine | Oct 10 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | I read one person's post about hitting a Toyota Camry with their Ford Crown Victoria. | Oct 10 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | They said that the Crown Vic needed a paint touch up and a new headlight cover. | Oct 10 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | They said the Camry was totaled. | Oct 10 07:01 |
| MinceR | no, it's a compact car :> | Oct 10 07:01 |
| MinceR | not sure about the fiberglass either | Oct 10 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | The person driving the Camry made the really dumb mistake of trying to change lanes without signaling and got rear-ended. | Oct 10 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | and the entire back half of their car was crushed by the Crown Vic. | Oct 10 07:02 |
| MinceR | they don't know about turn signals in the usa either? :> | Oct 10 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that you'd look, see the Crown Vic, and decide that you don't want to get in the way. | Oct 10 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | So apparently the dumb bitch didn't look or signal. | Oct 10 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, no matter what happens, the person that hits the back of another car is "at fault". | Oct 10 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | Kind of like how I was "at fault" when the jogger listening to his ipod decided to run out in front of my car. | Oct 10 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | If I had it to do over again from the point of seeing if he was OK, I would have curb stomped the ipod. | Oct 10 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | He had.....a small bruise, and my insurance rate tripled for three years. | Oct 10 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | Six months later, my mom noticed that my Taurus was filthy but that there was a giant "clean streak" on the hood. | Oct 10 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Yeah, that was the guy with the ipod." | Oct 10 07:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | The hit knocked him up onto the hood, then he landed about 10 feet from the driver side of the car. | Oct 10 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | I got out and asked if he was alright. First words out of his mouth are "You stupid son of a bitch!". | Oct 10 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | If fleeing the scene wasn't a crime I would have said "So, that's a yes?" and left. | Oct 10 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | Only in this country can you run out into traffic and blame the driver of the car that hits you. | Oct 10 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Probably wouldn't be the case if common sense prevailed, but trial lawyers probably love it. | Oct 10 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I've had some fun times with that Taurus. | Oct 10 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's had about as much of me as it can take. | Oct 10 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 10 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yesterday, I was going 50 miles an hour down a country road to go look at the Crown Vic, and I see a railroad crossing. | Oct 10 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | Thought nothing of it because most of them are flat. | Oct 10 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | This one wasn't. | Oct 10 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | So I went flying into the air, probably 5-6 feet off the ground, and then landed. | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | and my trunk flies open | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | I need to call that guy tomorrow and tell him to watch out for that railroad crossing. | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | It would be nice if there was a posted warning about that. | Oct 10 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | But no. The speed limit is 50 and all of a sudden, you're airborne. | Oct 10 07:13 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/387867100607299584 | Oct 10 07:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz not first time wealthy empowered loony movements only to find they made monsters. Is how the Wiemar Republic collapsed too. | Oct 10 07:25 |
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| DaemonFC | I'll have this Vic purring like a kitten. | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'll give it a tune up sometime next spring. | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | new plugs and wires | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have a shop do it because if they fuck up and break one of the plugs, they're the ones that have to figure out how to get it out. | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I want to get a coolant flush right away because winter is coming and all the shops have those on special right now. | Oct 10 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | I could do it myself, but for $45 they can have right at it. | Oct 10 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:30 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.dummies.com/Section/Windows-8.id-811990.html | Oct 10 07:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dummies.com | Microsoft Windows 8 - For Dummies [ http://ur1.ca/fv65d ] | Oct 10 07:35 |
| MinceR | they left an 'is' out there | Oct 10 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I had my mom ask if she should take her car to Walmart's oil change place. | Oct 10 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Only if you want an excuse to go new car shopping.". | Oct 10 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | She asked me why I said that. I told her "Because I was a manager at Walmart and got to deal with customers that left without oil in the engine, had their drain plug stripped out, had the oil overfilled, had them bill them for an oil change and then not do one....." | Oct 10 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | I remember one day when someone brought their BMW (to Walmart!) and had it fall off the lift. | Oct 10 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/how-does-walmart-make-money-on-a-20-oil-change/18504/page1/ | Oct 10 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | grassrootsmotorsports.com | How does walmart make money on a $20 oil change?: Off-Topic Discussion forum: Grassroots Motorsports Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/fv687 ] | Oct 10 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | "cheap oil, cheaper filter, and minimum wage...FTW " | Oct 10 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | "will any of these places (that charge so little) use the oil you specify" | Oct 10 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart will, but they charge the shelf price of the oil * number of quarts + an extra $2 | Oct 10 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | People who are picky about motor oil brands have...issues. | Oct 10 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten cars up to nearly 300,000 miles using nothing but bulk/off brand motor oils. | Oct 10 07:57 |
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| DaemonFC | It's just not that big of a deal as long as it complies with the relevant standards and you actually change it on time. | Oct 10 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | They get people on the hook with "high mileage" and "full synthetic" oils. | Oct 10 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | but unless you're driving a sports car that calls for it, you're just wasting money | Oct 10 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've torn down engines, and the biggest difference was not brand of oil, it was whether it got changed on time. | Oct 10 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | 3,000 miles is a good interval the "or 3 months" part is so they can sell you more oil changes. | Oct 10 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | It should be 3,000 miles or 9 months if you ask me | Oct 10 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | unless you do a lot of stop and go or idling. | Oct 10 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the filthiest engines are the ones where people do use full synthetic and actually believe that 15,000 mile marketing crap | Oct 10 08:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't do Walmart oil changes, ever. Even on my 20 year old rusted out shitpile. | Oct 10 08:05 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't even trust them with that. | Oct 10 08:05 |
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| DaemonFC | For $3 more you can go across the street to the Ford dealer and have someone that knows what they're doing and won't impact strip your drain plug and stick a FRAM filter on your car. | Oct 10 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | Totally worth it. | Oct 10 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | I made it a point to ask the guy with the Crown Vic for his service records for the car. | Oct 10 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | I saw that it got all of its oil changes at Crain Ford. | Oct 10 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | That made me feel alot better. | Oct 10 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | Most people go to Walmart because they think they're being smart by having a minimum wage teenager work on their $30,000 car. | Oct 10 08:11 |
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| DaemonFC | http://auto.howstuffworks.com/5-benefits-of-an-engine-flush.htm | Oct 10 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | auto.howstuffworks.com | HowStuffWorks "5 Benefits of an Engine Flush" [ http://ur1.ca/fv6c5 ] | Oct 10 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | Engine flushes destroy engines. | Oct 10 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | Air conditioners are a "if it works, leave it alone" thing. | Oct 10 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | You want to run them every so often even in winter, to circulate the oil in the system. | Oct 10 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | I've had some old cars where the compressor would start leaking. Those compressors aren't cheap, and the labor hours aren't either. | Oct 10 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | If it's a minor leak, you can get away with recharging it yourself with R-134a + "stop leak". | Oct 10 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | usually | Oct 10 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | I had a car where I did that and the air conditioner worked for the next five years. By then I was ready to sell it as a beater anyway. | Oct 10 08:17 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Oct 10 09:03 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 10 09:12 |
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| iophk | http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/09/hp-admits-what-we-already-knew-microsoft-is-at-war-with-its-oem-partners/ | Oct 10 10:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techcrunch.com | HP Admits What We Already Knew: Microsoft Is At War With Its OEM Partners | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/fv6xa ] | Oct 10 10:17 |
| iophk | Maybe the OEM monopoly will weaken and break soon. There are already a few Chromebooks available. | Oct 10 10:18 |
| iophk | Getting full Gnu/linux out there would be the next sign. | Oct 10 10:18 |
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| iophk | serious M$ apologist: http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/10/09/what-is-the-worst-thing-about-working-at-microsoft/ | Oct 10 10:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | What Is The Worst Thing About Working At Microsoft? - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/fv6y5 ] | Oct 10 10:21 |
| JimmyCarter | lol | Oct 10 10:25 |
| iophk | It is interesting to see what their party line is these days. | Oct 10 10:28 |
| JimmyCarter | fix your bugs and maybe people will stop "doubting" you | Oct 10 10:28 |
| iophk | and their business model | Oct 10 10:28 |
| iophk | M$ has squashed a lot of innovation over the years and even whole businesses | Oct 10 10:29 |
| JimmyCarter | whats last innovation ms squashed? | Oct 10 10:29 |
| JimmyCarter | seems like that was the 90s to me | Oct 10 10:30 |
| JimmyCarter | perhaps you would say nokia | Oct 10 10:30 |
| iophk | meego would be one of the latest but it's not completely out | Oct 10 10:30 |
| iophk | it has some new life in Jolla | Oct 10 10:30 |
| iophk | They did a second round of pre-orders recently | Oct 10 10:30 |
| iophk | ODF was another high profile tech, but even it is not gone completely | Oct 10 10:31 |
| iophk | Stacker was one of the first I remember | Oct 10 10:32 |
| iophk | even the effects on hardware are lessening with ARM becoming popular. | Oct 10 10:33 |
| iophk | MIPS might be on the edge of a revival. | Oct 10 10:33 |
| iophk | It's in a fair number of network appliances but not the desktop | Oct 10 10:33 |
| JimmyCarter | interesting re MIPS | Oct 10 10:41 |
| iophk | RMS runs MIPS | Oct 10 10:41 |
| iophk | http://richard.stallman.usesthis.com/ | Oct 10 10:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | richard.stallman.usesthis.com | The Setup / Richard Stallman | Oct 10 10:41 |
| iophk | http://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html | Oct 10 10:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | stallman.org | How I do my Computing [ http://ur1.ca/0dj8d ] | Oct 10 10:42 |
| iophk | '"We're convinced that innovation will be greatly enhanced and improved if Microsoft's heavy hand of monopoly is removed from the industry," said Ed Black, president of the Computer & Communications Industry Association (CCIA).' | Oct 10 10:51 |
| iophk | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/781765.stm | Oct 10 10:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.bbc.co.uk | BBC NEWS | Business | Has Microsoft stifled innovation? [ http://ur1.ca/fv736 ] | Oct 10 10:51 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/avoiding-layoffs-motivates-south-tyrol-province-wide-switch | Oct 10 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | Avoiding layoffs motivates South Tyrol province-wide switch | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/fv74b ] | Oct 10 10:59 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/att-the-internet-is-awesome-so-lets-get-rid-of-phone-regulations/ | Oct 10 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | AT&T: The Internet is awesome, so let’s get rid of phone regulations | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fv7ex ] | Oct 10 11:53 |
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| DaemonFC | that's hilarious | Oct 10 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | The first Google result for "pirate" is The Pirate Bay. | Oct 10 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | with links to browse torrents or the Top 100. | Oct 10 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | Their infobox even has the Pirate Ship logo with information on The Pirate Bay from Wikipedia. | Oct 10 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Then a link to the Pittsburgh Pirates. | Oct 10 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Then a link to Wikipedia's page on piracy at sea. | Oct 10 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | I couldn't have done that better myself. | Oct 10 13:33 |
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| DaemonFC | So, I should be able to finalize the deal on that car today. | Oct 10 13:54 |
| *DaemonFC feels like a kid on Christmas morning. | Oct 10 13:55 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It feels good knowing that you own something nice and didn't have to bring the fucking banks into the process. | Oct 10 13:55 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 10 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | The guy I'm buying the car from told me about his first car. He said that it was a Chevy Nova that had a bad engine. He bought it because it was $100 and he figured he'd just drop another engine into it. | Oct 10 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said that before he ever got to do that, a city garbage truck ran into the car. | Oct 10 13:57 |
| oiaohm | I have just had some sport with my debian break and failing to load anything gtk based. | Oct 10 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | Their insurance company totaled it out and paid him $300 for it. | Oct 10 13:57 |
| oiaohm | Pushed all gtk libraries back to stable and its running again. | Oct 10 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said he was thrilled. | Oct 10 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | (In the 1970s when that was a fair bit of money.) | Oct 10 13:58 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: profit from insurnace company is rare. | Oct 10 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | The US Dollar has lost more than half the value it had in the (nearly) 30 years I've been alive. | Oct 10 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | So in today's terms he probably paid $400 for it and got $1,200. | Oct 10 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 10 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | something like that | Oct 10 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | Congress is on a mission to debauch the currency so that people are punished for saving. | Oct 10 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Seen the one with MS releasing RDP clients on Android and OSi | Oct 10 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | The Fed's goal is inflation because it scares people into spending everything they have quickly while it still buys something. | Oct 10 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Ok gnome-terminal still busted. | Oct 10 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | I had to doctor GNOME up alot just to make it work right. | Oct 10 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Out of the box experience" is horrible. | Oct 10 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | I still wish there was an extension to disable their new system tray and put it back in the main panel where it was in GNOME 2. | Oct 10 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Is there? | Oct 10 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 14:02 |
| MinceR | just upgrade to xfce | Oct 10 14:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what ever went wrong with the GTK took out xfce as well. | Oct 10 14:04 |
| MinceR | your fault for not using stable :> | Oct 10 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora will fix it up. | Oct 10 14:05 |
| MinceR | and break itself. | Oct 10 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | They're a lot better than they used to be. | Oct 10 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | They used to ship some obviously and horribly broken releases. | Oct 10 14:05 |
| MinceR | i still don't trust yum. | Oct 10 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | but their latest ones are quite good | Oct 10 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | yum is being replaced soon-ish | Oct 10 14:06 |
| MinceR | with what? | Oct 10 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF | Oct 10 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fedoraproject.org | Features/DNF - FedoraProject [ http://ur1.ca/9j26l ] | Oct 10 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | A fork of yum. | Oct 10 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 14:07 |
| MinceR | Duke Nukem Forever. :> | Oct 10 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum. | Oct 10 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | ...and I'm all out of gum. | Oct 10 14:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 14:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my system is about 80 percent testing. | Oct 10 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | The last time I sold a car, I sold it to a lady on Social Security. | Oct 10 14:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: expect issues, then :> | Oct 10 14:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: funny enough this is the first major break in 4 years. | Oct 10 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | So I put down that I sold it to her for $50. | Oct 10 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 10 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | The sales tax alone would have wiped her out that month. Does the state care? No. | Oct 10 14:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes debian testing issues are supprising rare I think its something about wayland | Oct 10 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | I asked the guy I'm buying the car from if he'd put down that I bought it for $100. | Oct 10 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | He said no. | Oct 10 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | So there goes $100-something to the state. | Oct 10 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | Damn it. | Oct 10 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | I would have bought the car and titled it yesterday, but his dad owned the car and when he died, nobody titled it over to anyone else. | Oct 10 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | So technically the car belongs to a dead person. | Oct 10 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | So he has to bring the death certificate to the DMV office, *and* his Power Of Attorney over his mom. | Oct 10 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the only way he can legally sell me the car. | Oct 10 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | I thought about asking him to just sign his dad's name on the title. | Oct 10 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt the state would have figured it out, but knowing my luck.... | Oct 10 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | and if he does that, then there's no telling who would find out and challenge it | Oct 10 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | "He didn't have the right to do that and dad and my senile mother would want *me* to have the car!" | Oct 10 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm not taking any of that risk. | Oct 10 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | He can either get the paperwork together and title it over legally, or I'm going to have to walk. | Oct 10 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | It would just kill me to do that, but I'm not going to risk any entanglement with our government over this. | Oct 10 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, See what kind of a mess can happen when there's no planning for what to do with someone's estate? | Oct 10 14:21 |
| MinceR | meh | Oct 10 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | Technically it's his dad's estate, through his Power of Attorney over his mother that is selling me the car. | Oct 10 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | My grandmother never changed the phone bill over to her name after my grandfather died. | Oct 10 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | 15 years later, my phone still says his name when she calls me. | Oct 10 14:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Phone company doesn't care. Someone pays the bill. | Oct 10 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | cat is throwing up | Oct 10 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | I had to grab him and hold him over the trash can. | Oct 10 14:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: mind you dead person with assest does cause some tax fun. | Oct 10 14:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: sometimes it cheaper to run the estate for ever | Oct 10 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | "HERE! *HEAVE HEAVE HEAVE!* LET ME *BARF* PUKE ALL OVER THE CARPET!" | Oct 10 14:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: worst I have had was a dog after a evil batch of dog biskets. | Oct 10 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | I call my cat the Foul Smelling Beast. | Oct 10 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | "Who's my foul smelling beast? You're my foul smelling beast! Yes you are!" | Oct 10 14:28 |
| MinceR | smelly cat, smelly cat | Oct 10 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, good timing | Oct 10 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | The local Ford dealer sent me coupons for an oil change, a coolant flush, and a transmission drain and fill and filter change. | Oct 10 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | probably ended up on their mailing list when I was looking for a used Ford | Oct 10 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | When I take it in for a tune up in a few months, I'm just going to have them change the plugs, wires, and coil packs all at once. | Oct 10 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | The labor is the main thing. | Oct 10 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'd feel pretty stupid if I had a wire or coil pack go bad after they just had it all disassembled to change the plugs. | Oct 10 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | No, it doesn't need a tune up, but you shouldn't really wait until it does. | Oct 10 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's nearing 100,000 miles, so that's the time to do it. | Oct 10 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Ford's service manual says 100,000 is the time to do the plugs and wires. | Oct 10 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | I plan to pick up the service schedule right where they left off. | Oct 10 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | Someone took exceptionally good care of this car. I was impressed. | Oct 10 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | They even had it detailed. | Oct 10 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Normally you look under the hood and the transmission fluid is black, the coolant is brown and has stuff floating in it, the oil looks like chocolate syrup, and the entire compartment is filthy. | Oct 10 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | and the air filter has usually never been changed | Oct 10 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Those are the kind of cars you find on dealer lots that were traded in. | Oct 10 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | They took a huge loss on them because they neglected everything and there was no way they could possibly sell it themselves. | Oct 10 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | If the used car market keeps going like it is, I'll pay $2200 for that car today and turn around 10 years later and sell it for $1,700 or so. | Oct 10 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's what happened with my Taurus. I paid $2,000 for it in 2005, and 100,000 miles later and in bad condition, it's still valued at $1,100. | Oct 10 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | and I beat the crap out of it | Oct 10 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | used cars are like crazy right now | Oct 10 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think this guy realizes what he has. | Oct 10 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | If he did, he'd be trying to wring at least $3500 out of me. | Oct 10 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | I told a dealer that called a few minutes ago about that car, and he said "So what are you paying? 34, 35?" | Oct 10 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | I said "22". | Oct 10 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | He's like "Oh, well, we couldn't give you a deal like that. Have a nice day!" | Oct 10 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 15:24 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 10 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Vic is like the closest thing to perfect in the used car market right now. | Oct 10 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | They're incredibly unpopular with anyone under 60. | Oct 10 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | so the price goes down alot | Oct 10 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | limited market | Oct 10 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | People look at you funny when you're in your 20s and you're driving a full size sedan. | Oct 10 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | The Ford Taurus used to be a great value on the used car market. | Oct 10 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're impossible to get a good price on. | Oct 10 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone wants one because they're a fairly durable midsize sedan that doesn't guzzle gas. | Oct 10 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | So you see ones that are a 2002 with 160,000 miles going for $4500. | Oct 10 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | That's just crazy. | Oct 10 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | When I was last in the market, the Taurus was the best car for the money. Tons of gently-used mid to late 90s models were on the market at extremely fair prices. | Oct 10 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | Supply gluts drive prices down. | Oct 10 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | People ask me if I'm afraid to drive a 20 year old car. | Oct 10 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | I tell them "Not at all." | Oct 10 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | If you treat it like a machine instead of an appliance, they should keep going for a very long time. | Oct 10 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Assuming that they were a decent car to begin with. | Oct 10 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | People treat their cars like a washing machine. | Oct 10 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | You just buy one and keep pressing the button until it doesn't work anymore, and then buy a new one. | Oct 10 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Disgustingly wasteful. | Oct 10 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'll never buy a new car. | Oct 10 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Not now, not ever. | Oct 10 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | If I don't have the money to buy it in my pocket, it's just not going to happen. | Oct 10 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I really don't have any debt. | Oct 10 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | I thought I'd be cute and see what the going rate for a car loan for someone like me would be. | Oct 10 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You know what they said? | Oct 10 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Your credit rating is good, but we have to deny you because you're not in enough debt already." | Oct 10 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "What the fuck is this shit?" | Oct 10 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | I can't get a loan because I'm too responsible. | Oct 10 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | "So if I go out and get a 30 year mortgage and max out a credit card, you'll talk to me?" | Oct 10 15:35 |
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| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Yeah, pretty much." | Oct 10 15:35 |
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| DaemonFC | That's just so bad it deserves a facepalm. | Oct 10 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | "You have enough money to service the proposed debt. We'll never get you on the penalty rate or repo and resell your car. NEXT!" | Oct 10 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | That's what this national debt crisis really is right now. They have to give the banksters an excuse to downgrade our credit rating so they can "earn" more interest. | Oct 10 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | They do the same thing to people. | Oct 10 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | Banks suck. | Oct 10 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | They like people who miss a payment every now and then but get it "on schedule" eventually. | Oct 10 15:39 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/extratorrent-threatens-legal-action-over-police-ordered-domain-seizure-131010/ | Oct 10 15:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | ExtraTorrent Threatens Legal Action Over Police-Ordered Domain Seizure | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fv8ij ] | Oct 10 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | Gives them an excuse to make their interest rate 20% instead of 3.4 | Oct 10 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | 3.4 is basically a teaser | Oct 10 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | they screen out most of the customers that can make 100% on time payments so they don't have to do 3.4 for very long | Oct 10 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I told that loan officer off. | Oct 10 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | I read her the Riot Act. | Oct 10 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | I said "I will NEVER do business with this credit union because of this. I was going to move all my accounts here, but forget it. You're rude, you're unprofessional, and your terms just suck. The only reason I was considering banking here was because it might be necessary to get a reasonable auto loan." | Oct 10 15:43 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 10 15:43 |
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| DaemonFC | oh, I left them a nasty review on Google as well | Oct 10 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | fuckers | Oct 10 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | "Denied for a car loan even though my FICO rating is good. Checked into opening a bank account there because I thought it might be necessary to get a car loan approval. When I checked into their account terms, fees, and interest rates, I was seriously unimpressed. Why does anyone do business with a bank that charges you just to have an account, order checks, and get a paper statement? Ally Bank and | Oct 10 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | Capital One 360 don't do this. Also, their employees are incredibly rude. I'm listed as a joint account owner on someone else's account and asked them if I could write myself a check on my bank account since being a joint owner makes me a member. They said "Well, YOU'RE responsible if it BOUNCES!". I have NEVER ONCE bounced a check in my entire life." | Oct 10 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | Take that. | Oct 10 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | I feel better. | Oct 10 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | That's out of my system now. | Oct 10 15:53 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/10/berners_lee_on_html_drm/ | Oct 10 16:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Web daddy Tim Berners-Lee: DRMed HTML least of all evils • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fv8m4 ] | Oct 10 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/02/5-tip-offs-to-mechanic-rip-offs/index.htm | Oct 10 16:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.consumerreports.org | Car-Mechanic Rip-Offs | Car Repair | Car Maintenance - Consumer Reports [ http://ur1.ca/fv8me ] | Oct 10 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Engine flush: BAD | Oct 10 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | Transmission flush: Should be fine as long as the transmission isn't already damaged. | Oct 10 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | If the fluid is already brown, you should just do a drain and fill, and filter replacement, and then do another one in about 5,000 miles. | Oct 10 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Raymond Andrews says: | Oct 10 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | KEWL so when is Obama going to finish my fence?!?! cause good fences make for good neighbors | Oct 10 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Oct 10 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think so, but then you get the neighbor that builds a pool downwind of your pine trees and then complains about the pine trees and demands that you pay $1,000 to get them cut down. :) | Oct 10 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Oct 10 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | As a side note, the pine tree story was what happened to my mom and stepdad. | Oct 10 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | The neighbor came to complain about that while I was there and I said "That's alright ma'am, no charge for the pine needles.". | Oct 10 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | I told my stepdad that she's lucky that I'm not their neighbor. After that scene, I'd be upstairs leaning outside to shake the pine tree branches. | Oct 10 16:43 |
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| iophk | http://www.tecmint.com/screen-command-examples-to-manage-linux-terminals/ | Oct 10 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tecmint.com | 10 Screen Command Examples to Manage Linux Terminals [ http://ur1.ca/fva3h ] | Oct 10 20:48 |
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| MinceR | gn | Oct 10 23:07 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/brazil-spying-report-spotlights-canadas-electronic-eavesdroppers/article14720003/#dashboard/follows/ | Oct 10 05:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theglobeandmail.com | Charges that Canada spied on Brazil unveil CSEC's inner workings - The Globe and Mail [ http://ur1.ca/fv5eu ] | Oct 10 05:10 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS2Ba9gTPOo | Oct 10 05:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | GPS Allstate TV Commercial - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5ge ] | Oct 10 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Sync with Microsoft! | Oct 10 05:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWC6PWSJ50s | Oct 10 05:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Test Driver Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5gr ] | Oct 10 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhyQgskfjNc | Oct 10 05:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Guard Dog Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5he ] | Oct 10 05:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8JZwh5ZHY | Oct 10 05:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Tree Branch Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5hh ] | Oct 10 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | SHaky shaky! | Oct 10 05:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDL7RqPr5c | Oct 10 05:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Lawn Game Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5hw ] | Oct 10 05:29 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC_UXK1vvds | Oct 10 05:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Text Walker Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5jd ] | Oct 10 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The guy I am buying the Crown Vic from mentioned how messed up our government is. | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | I told him it's like that Alien Vs. Predator tagline. | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Whoever wins, we lose." | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | You've got the business criminals and the Nazis. | Oct 10 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I'd rather have ordinary business criminals running things than Nazis. | Oct 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | But they're both bad. | Oct 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of these Tea Party people are really just neoconfederates. | Oct 10 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's that "States Rights Democratic Party" bullshit from the 1960s all over again. | Oct 10 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | When bad stuff happens, extremists get a foothold in government. | Oct 10 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that actual Nazis are taking over slowly in Greece. | Oct 10 06:17 |
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| MinceR | they already took over here | Oct 10 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't suppose the idle threats about being expelled from the EU are slowing them down at all. | Oct 10 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 06:53 |
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| MinceR | they didn't slow them down at all | Oct 10 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kernschevysuperstore.com/detail.aspx?id=3391728&PrefID=0&.aspx | Oct 10 06:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.kernschevysuperstore.com | 1996 Ford Crown Victoria - Used Sedan Lima OH | Kerns Chevrolet Buick GMC [ http://ur1.ca/fv5v9 ] | Oct 10 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | I got my mom looking at that one. | Oct 10 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | Dave couldn't understand why I wanted one. | Oct 10 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | I told him "It's big, reliable, fast, and cheap." | Oct 10 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | The ricers get some o them, but at least they're dealing with a real car. Not a Honda Civic. :) | Oct 10 06:57 |
| MinceR | afaik honda civics are real cars | Oct 10 06:58 |
| DaemonFC | The only argument for a Honda Civic is it gets good gas mileage. | Oct 10 06:59 |
| MinceR | and that it's reliable | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it should, because it takes three of them to equal one car | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | You get into a wreck and you're finished. | Oct 10 06:59 |
| MinceR | well, there's that | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | The entire car is a crumple zone. | Oct 10 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it's basically a fiberglass body on a motorcycle engine | Oct 10 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | I read one person's post about hitting a Toyota Camry with their Ford Crown Victoria. | Oct 10 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | They said that the Crown Vic needed a paint touch up and a new headlight cover. | Oct 10 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | They said the Camry was totaled. | Oct 10 07:01 |
| MinceR | no, it's a compact car :> | Oct 10 07:01 |
| MinceR | not sure about the fiberglass either | Oct 10 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | The person driving the Camry made the really dumb mistake of trying to change lanes without signaling and got rear-ended. | Oct 10 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | and the entire back half of their car was crushed by the Crown Vic. | Oct 10 07:02 |
| MinceR | they don't know about turn signals in the usa either? :> | Oct 10 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that you'd look, see the Crown Vic, and decide that you don't want to get in the way. | Oct 10 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | So apparently the dumb bitch didn't look or signal. | Oct 10 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, no matter what happens, the person that hits the back of another car is "at fault". | Oct 10 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | Kind of like how I was "at fault" when the jogger listening to his ipod decided to run out in front of my car. | Oct 10 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | If I had it to do over again from the point of seeing if he was OK, I would have curb stomped the ipod. | Oct 10 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | He had.....a small bruise, and my insurance rate tripled for three years. | Oct 10 07:04 |
| DaemonFC | Six months later, my mom noticed that my Taurus was filthy but that there was a giant "clean streak" on the hood. | Oct 10 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Yeah, that was the guy with the ipod." | Oct 10 07:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | The hit knocked him up onto the hood, then he landed about 10 feet from the driver side of the car. | Oct 10 07:06 |
| DaemonFC | I got out and asked if he was alright. First words out of his mouth are "You stupid son of a bitch!". | Oct 10 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | If fleeing the scene wasn't a crime I would have said "So, that's a yes?" and left. | Oct 10 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | Only in this country can you run out into traffic and blame the driver of the car that hits you. | Oct 10 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Probably wouldn't be the case if common sense prevailed, but trial lawyers probably love it. | Oct 10 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I've had some fun times with that Taurus. | Oct 10 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's had about as much of me as it can take. | Oct 10 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 10 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yesterday, I was going 50 miles an hour down a country road to go look at the Crown Vic, and I see a railroad crossing. | Oct 10 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | Thought nothing of it because most of them are flat. | Oct 10 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | This one wasn't. | Oct 10 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | So I went flying into the air, probably 5-6 feet off the ground, and then landed. | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | and my trunk flies open | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | I need to call that guy tomorrow and tell him to watch out for that railroad crossing. | Oct 10 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | It would be nice if there was a posted warning about that. | Oct 10 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | But no. The speed limit is 50 and all of a sudden, you're airborne. | Oct 10 07:13 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/387867100607299584 | Oct 10 07:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz not first time wealthy empowered loony movements only to find they made monsters. Is how the Wiemar Republic collapsed too. | Oct 10 07:25 |
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| DaemonFC | I'll have this Vic purring like a kitten. | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'll give it a tune up sometime next spring. | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | new plugs and wires | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have a shop do it because if they fuck up and break one of the plugs, they're the ones that have to figure out how to get it out. | Oct 10 07:28 |
| DaemonFC | I want to get a coolant flush right away because winter is coming and all the shops have those on special right now. | Oct 10 07:29 |
| DaemonFC | I could do it myself, but for $45 they can have right at it. | Oct 10 07:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:30 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.dummies.com/Section/Windows-8.id-811990.html | Oct 10 07:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dummies.com | Microsoft Windows 8 - For Dummies [ http://ur1.ca/fv65d ] | Oct 10 07:35 |
| MinceR | they left an 'is' out there | Oct 10 07:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I had my mom ask if she should take her car to Walmart's oil change place. | Oct 10 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Only if you want an excuse to go new car shopping.". | Oct 10 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | She asked me why I said that. I told her "Because I was a manager at Walmart and got to deal with customers that left without oil in the engine, had their drain plug stripped out, had the oil overfilled, had them bill them for an oil change and then not do one....." | Oct 10 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | I remember one day when someone brought their BMW (to Walmart!) and had it fall off the lift. | Oct 10 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/how-does-walmart-make-money-on-a-20-oil-change/18504/page1/ | Oct 10 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | grassrootsmotorsports.com | How does walmart make money on a $20 oil change?: Off-Topic Discussion forum: Grassroots Motorsports Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/fv687 ] | Oct 10 07:53 |
| DaemonFC | "cheap oil, cheaper filter, and minimum wage...FTW " | Oct 10 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | "will any of these places (that charge so little) use the oil you specify" | Oct 10 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart will, but they charge the shelf price of the oil * number of quarts + an extra $2 | Oct 10 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | People who are picky about motor oil brands have...issues. | Oct 10 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten cars up to nearly 300,000 miles using nothing but bulk/off brand motor oils. | Oct 10 07:57 |
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| DaemonFC | It's just not that big of a deal as long as it complies with the relevant standards and you actually change it on time. | Oct 10 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | They get people on the hook with "high mileage" and "full synthetic" oils. | Oct 10 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | but unless you're driving a sports car that calls for it, you're just wasting money | Oct 10 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've torn down engines, and the biggest difference was not brand of oil, it was whether it got changed on time. | Oct 10 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | 3,000 miles is a good interval the "or 3 months" part is so they can sell you more oil changes. | Oct 10 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | It should be 3,000 miles or 9 months if you ask me | Oct 10 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | unless you do a lot of stop and go or idling. | Oct 10 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the filthiest engines are the ones where people do use full synthetic and actually believe that 15,000 mile marketing crap | Oct 10 08:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't do Walmart oil changes, ever. Even on my 20 year old rusted out shitpile. | Oct 10 08:05 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't even trust them with that. | Oct 10 08:05 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | Got a reply regarding Linux Devices: | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > hi Roy, | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > They supposedly are coming up with some sort of agreement for making it | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > available. I was told 2 weeks ago that their legal group was processing it. | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I'll ping them again tomorrow, and perhaps should mention that "the free | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > software bloggers are getting restless," eh? | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > -Rick | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One way or another, the good articles should be made available for history to be preserved. I linked to thousands articles like these and if they're indexed by Google, then I can at least locate them by title/body strings. When there is no written record of past events, they can be denied and history can be rewritten by opportunists (or victors who brush out their victims out of existence, even out of memory). Evidence helps | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | refute a liar even hundreds of years after an event, so bad actions cannot be embellished and good actions or progress can be demonstrated. Yesterday I cited Linux Gizmos about 20 times, noting that Linux (sometimes GNU also) now dominates in devices (Android helps this and ARM facilitates this also). Linux Devices used to have some showcases that several years ago made a largely-maligned platform seem like the rising force which | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | is now somewhat of a de facto standard. Whether this helps digital liberation of some kind of not may not matter much; the matter of fact is, those who advocated Linux for devices won the argument, and their work that accompanied this important trend should be made accessible for all to view retroactively. Imagine what the world would be like if billions of embedded devices ran an underlying platform that's purely proprietary, | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | possibly back-doored, not open to outside contribution, monopolised by one company/board of directors etc. I guess we can never know because we now safely assume that kernel.org is what gets funnelled into a lot of chipsets. It impacts behaviour of programs (e.g. over users). I believe that there is a lot more to software than just code and when code is embedded or made immutable we just have to assume yet more power to the | Oct 09 00:33 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | developer/s over users. This power is abused more often than people realise, the NSA leaks for instance have shown. | Oct 09 00:33 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 09 04:40 |
| iophk | http://opensource.com/business/13/10/interview-chris-dibona | Oct 09 04:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Interview with Chris DiBona of Google | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuzul ] | Oct 09 04:52 |
| iophk | http://www.itworld.com/open-source/377696/why-did-nvidia-cripple-its-linux-driver | Oct 09 04:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.itworld.com | Why did Nvidia cripple its Linux driver? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/fuzuo ] | Oct 09 04:52 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387862571766013953 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863131705581570 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863357463609344 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863391378751488 | Oct 09 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Noam Chomsky | On Shutdown, Waning US Influence, Syrian Showdown http://t.co/DiDWi00w1l #syria #chomsky | Oct 09 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> truth-out.org | Noam Chomsky | On Shutdown, Waning US Influence, Syrian Showdown | Oct 09 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Bangladesh garment factory fire kills at least 10 people http://t.co/D8SjBL4Fhi the cost of low-cost clothing | Oct 09 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.cbc.ca | Bangladesh garment factory fire kills at least 10 people - World - CBC News | Oct 09 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: US/UK spy chiefs cover up NSA surveillance scandal http://t.co/dkH7oHqSTb #nsa #uk #us #surveillance #collusion #hogwash | Oct 09 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> anniemachon.ch | US/UK spy chiefs cover up NSA surveillance scandal - Using Our Intelligence | Oct 09 04:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Standing out from the crowd http://t.co/d2ykTSMMti | Oct 09 04:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | iophk: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387864036068827136 | Oct 09 04:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open source is brutal: an interview with Google's Chris DiBona http://t.co/o7zjvIr7qp #google #dibona #freedom | Oct 09 04:56 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/387863761706835968 | Oct 09 04:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Why did #Nvidia cripple its #Linux driver? http://t.co/8SbfoqHQSq #windows | Oct 09 04:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | off to london till tomorrow night, meeting the authorities in London re Drupal | Oct 09 04:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | bbl | Oct 09 04:57 |
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| MinceR | "The free software world responded to Apple - but not exactly as Stallman wanted. Google came up with Android" | Oct 09 04:58 |
| MinceR | wow, so many lies in a bit of a statement | Oct 09 04:58 |
| MinceR | of course, this is to be expected of idg | Oct 09 04:59 |
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| DaemonFC` | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/07/can-the-business-establishment-win-back-the-gop/ | Oct 09 09:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtonpost.com | Can business take the Republican Party back from the Tea Party? [ http://ur1.ca/fv0vg ] | Oct 09 09:21 |
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| DaemonFC | I hate it when that happens. | Oct 09 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | I made plans to meet the guy that owns that 1996 Crown Victoria today. | Oct 09 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | If it's as good as he says it is, then I'll buy it. | Oct 09 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://fortwayne.craigslist.org/cto/4114028208.html | Oct 09 09:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fortwayne.craigslist.org | 1996 Ford Crown Victoria [ http://ur1.ca/fuvnb ] | Oct 09 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Is BMW there as bad as it is in the US? | Oct 09 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | Expensive, not really reliable, replacement parts cost a fortune. | Oct 09 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | I had a guy trying to sell me a BMW with 265,000 miles on it for like $4,000 a while back. | Oct 09 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | I told him I wouldn't pay that much for any car with that mileage. | Oct 09 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | I drove a Mercedes around once, but it was a 1985 model. :P | Oct 09 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | My mom had a friend whose dad died and she was rich, so she just started giving away anything she didn't want. | Oct 09 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | So I got that Mercedes. | Oct 09 09:31 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: afaik their cluelessness is globel | Oct 09 09:31 |
| MinceR | s/bel/bal/ | Oct 09 09:31 |
| MinceR | also it seems that they don't seem to be aware of the fact that humans tend to have feet | Oct 09 09:31 |
| MinceR | but then german vehicles not allowing for legs seems to be a general issue | Oct 09 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that a lot of them have manual transmissions. | Oct 09 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why anyone would want that. | Oct 09 09:32 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't | Oct 09 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | You pay that much for a car, you want it to have an auto. | Oct 09 09:32 |
| MinceR | but some people like to do extra work | Oct 09 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Chrysler had a hybrid transmission for a while. | Oct 09 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think some PT Cruisers have them. | Oct 09 09:32 |
| MinceR | robotized manual? | Oct 09 09:33 |
| MinceR | those are crap, afaik | Oct 09 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's a manual transmission but you don't have to press down on a clutch pedal when you go to shift. | Oct 09 09:33 |
| MinceR | especially if your engine is turbocharged | Oct 09 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | I think they called it an autostick. | Oct 09 09:33 |
| MinceR | a real automatic transmission would avoid losing charge | Oct 09 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "Why would anyone want that? | Oct 09 09:33 |
| MinceR | here most cars have manual transmission | Oct 09 09:33 |
| MinceR | it's a good thing that i learned how to use them | Oct 09 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | I never learned how to drive one. | Oct 09 09:34 |
| MinceR | but if it was up to me, i'd get an automatic | Oct 09 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | A company I used to work for sponsored me for a Class B CDL license. | Oct 09 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | But the truck they had me driving was an auto. | Oct 09 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | It's like parallel parking. I've done that once. | Oct 09 09:35 |
| MinceR | which is parallel parking? parking parallel to the road? | Oct 09 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | You had to show the driving instructor that you could do it, so I did, and right when I was parked, this woman in an SUV pulled in an inch behind me. | Oct 09 09:36 |
| MinceR | i've done that many times | Oct 09 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | So I rolled down the window and asked her to back up. | Oct 09 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 09:36 |
| MinceR | parking, not pulling in an inch behind someone | Oct 09 09:36 |
| MinceR | that's what my asshole neighbors do | Oct 09 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | We were trapped. I couldn't get the car out of the parking spot. | Oct 09 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | That's one reason I don't do that. | Oct 09 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | People pull in and box you in. | Oct 09 09:36 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 09 09:36 |
| MinceR | but in hungary, you don't get a lot of choice in parking slots | Oct 09 09:37 |
| MinceR | apparently these people believe that people just take their cars home in their pockets or something. | Oct 09 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | I couldn't imagine trying to parallel park a full size sedan like that Crown Vic. | Oct 09 09:37 |
| MinceR | i can see that | Oct 09 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | That would be a nightmare. | Oct 09 09:37 |
| MinceR | it's a pain enough with my Carina | Oct 09 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | The parking spots here are built for midsize sedans. | Oct 09 09:37 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | I got the guy down to $2,200. | Oct 09 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | He seemed hesitant, but I said "A stack of $20s." and then he said "Yeah, I can do that." | Oct 09 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | It's a bad economy. Used car prices have gone nuts, but some people just really need money right now. | Oct 09 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | So you can gain the upperhand in a negotiation, even today. | Oct 09 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, If this car was on a dealer's lot, they'd price it at about $3200-$3400. | Oct 09 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | That's why you don't buy used cars from a dealer, as a general rule. | Oct 09 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | You'll always end up on the higher end of the price range for what you're looking at. | Oct 09 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | The salesman wants his commission, and they have to build their costs of doing business into the vehicles. | Oct 09 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | So take whatever the car is worth private sale, and add 30-40%. | Oct 09 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | I asked one of those dealers what the "dealer reconditioning fee" of $120 was for. | Oct 09 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | He told me they gave it an oil change and washed it. | Oct 09 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | I told him "Oil change at Walmart: $26. Full service car wash: $10." | Oct 09 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | But that's how dealers do you. You get raped. | Oct 09 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | When I get back in town with that car, I'm going to take it through the full service wash. | Oct 09 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'm going to have them wax it too. | Oct 09 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that back bumper was scuffed, but the guy tells me it's just dirt. | Oct 09 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | Not that I wouldn't buy it either way. It's an old car for $2,200, you can't expect perfect. | Oct 09 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | The car I have now, both bumpers are broken, and there's rust eating into my rear passenger side quarter panel. | Oct 09 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | The car was having electrical problems and the dealer wanted too much to fix them, so I yanked a fuse, and now I have no radio or dome lights. | Oct 09 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | The interior is in rough shape. | Oct 09 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | Someone broke into my car and tried hotwiring it. | Oct 09 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | So the driver door latch is broken. | Oct 09 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | They got mad when they failed to hotwire it, and took a knife to some of the upholstery, then stole my CD collection and left. | Oct 09 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | fuckers | Oct 09 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | They're so glad I didn't see them doing that or they'd be dead. | Oct 09 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | Seriously. I would have shot them. | Oct 09 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My uncle had his house broken into. I told him "They wouldn't need to worry about the police if it was my house. That's what the second amendment is good for." | Oct 09 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was in Indianapolis back in 2002, and I was driving through the downtown area at night. | Oct 09 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | With my windows down. | Oct 09 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | All of a sudden, someone reached in with a knife and tried to carjack me. | Oct 09 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | So I hit the "auto-up" button for the window and got their arm caught in it. | Oct 09 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | They dropped the knife onto the floor of my car. | Oct 09 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | I punched the accelerator and dragged them about a block and then rolled down the window. | Oct 09 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | I still have their knife. | Oct 09 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | Parts of Fort Wayne have gotten that bad. | Oct 09 09:51 |
| DaemonFC | My line of thinking is that if you're in the middle of committing a crime against someone, you're kind of doing it at your own risk. | Oct 09 09:52 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine#4.6.C2.A0L | Oct 09 09:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Ford Modular engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/fv10g ] | Oct 09 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | The ones build in Michigan are usually alright. | Oct 09 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | The ones built in Canada might not be. | Oct 09 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | The ones built in Canada before 2003, you don't want. | Oct 09 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4CNpWSenM | Oct 09 09:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Cash for clunkers victims compilation - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv10m ] | Oct 09 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | They crushed some Crown Vics in Cash For Clunkers. | Oct 09 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | That program was just terrible. | Oct 09 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone that voted for it needs to be thrown out. | Oct 09 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | mike maloney 10 months ago | Oct 09 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | fuck the government why dont they crush obamas limos with him inside. | Oct 09 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 09 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | Obama has one of those armor plated Cadillacs. | Oct 09 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | Gets about 6 miles per gallon. | Oct 09 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | Whenever he goes somewhere, he has an entire motorcade complete with cops in those big gas guzzler cop cars. | Oct 09 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | he holds up traffic for miles | Oct 09 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | They shut down highways and interstates and cause traffic jams. | Oct 09 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | He's really the last person that should be talking about how we need to get tough one gas mileage. | Oct 09 09:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 09:59 |
| MinceR | our parasites love to lock roads down, too | Oct 09 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | "We can't leave the world in worse shape for our children!" | Oct 09 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | *Hops into his armor plated Cadillac with police motorcade, and goes to shut down some more roads on his way to make another 5 minute speech* | Oct 09 10:03 |
| MinceR | "also, i'm your king so get off my road" | Oct 09 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly. | Oct 09 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | He shut down an interstate highway going through the largest city in the United States during rush hour. | Oct 09 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | To make a campaign speech. | Oct 09 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | Do you think he gives a shit? | Oct 09 10:04 |
| MinceR | obviously not | Oct 09 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/327261/Ford%20Crown%20Victoria%201996.jpg | Oct 09 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | I can see why almost nobody ever sells these things in good condition. | Oct 09 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | If they're in good shape, they want to hold onto them forever. | Oct 09 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The funniest part is that George W. Bush had a similar Cadillac that still worked fine. | Oct 09 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | They crushed it and bought Obama a brand new one. | Oct 09 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 10:10 |
| MinceR | got to stimulate the economy... :> | Oct 09 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | Bush's was a 2005 model I think. | Oct 09 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | No reason to get rid of it. | Oct 09 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The economy has gotten so bad that well over half of the cars on the road in Indiana are over 10 years old. | Oct 09 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | Car repair businesses are booming. | Oct 09 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | People are fixing what they've got instead of trading in for a new car every few years. | Oct 09 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | People are figuring out how dumb they've been for doing that. | Oct 09 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | A good number of 1990s cars are capable of exceeding 300,000 miles if you just take care of them. | Oct 09 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | I see them on dealer lots all the time like that. | Oct 09 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | They actually try to sell those. | Oct 09 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4_xjmSGm4 | Oct 09 10:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Gale Boetticher - Major Tom (Coming Home) - Breaking Bad Full Karaoke Version with lyrics - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv148 ] | Oct 09 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 09 10:15 |
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| iophk | All the Nobel prizes being awarded to the US for work that was in the pipes for years or decades. When the desert started by the Bush era hits, we'll probably see the awards going to EU and maybe China. The damage that is done now will have its worst affects long down the road. | Oct 09 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | Bush propped up the economy in some really reckless and unsustainable ways. | Oct 09 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | Like the insane military spending, the tax cuts, and letting the housing bubble run its entire course. | Oct 09 10:19 |
| iophk | Only parts of the economy. Other areas like research tanked. | Oct 09 10:19 |
| iophk | Research has a big payoff but a long lead time. | Oct 09 10:20 |
| iophk | By the time we feel the drought, it will be a long one. | Oct 09 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | With the way the 1990s went in the US, I'm not sure that anyone could have had the entire thing fall apart on them before 2008. | Oct 09 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'll pay my sales tax, title, and plate fees with my credit card. | Oct 09 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | That way, I get some of it back. | Oct 09 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | Damned state. | Oct 09 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | Damned taxes. | Oct 09 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | Or I could just ask the guy if he'd fill out the bill of sale for a different amount. | Oct 09 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 10:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That was a $500 car! | Oct 09 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | Can you believe my luck? :) | Oct 09 10:40 |
| MinceR | you mean $1? | Oct 09 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Well, if you go too low, some of them choose to get suspicious and calculate the "fair market value" of the car. | Oct 09 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Then charge you that. | Oct 09 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | I've never had the problem before. | Oct 09 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | Anything beats paying them $150 in tax because you bought property. | Oct 09 10:43 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Stallman was right. | Oct 09 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | If the rich don't pay their tax, why should anyone? | Oct 09 10:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 10:46 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I went ahead and got a "Secure ID" last time I updated my license. | Oct 09 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | They're making it difficult to do things without one now. | Oct 09 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | I went to pull a copy of my birth certificate without one and they wouldn't give me it. | Oct 09 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | So I went rummaging through boxes and found the original. While I was at it, I decided to just go ahead and get the new driver's license. | Oct 09 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.in.gov/bmv/2356.htm | Oct 09 10:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.in.gov | BMV: SecureID Driver's License and ID Cards | Oct 09 10:52 |
| MinceR | damn, their site is slow | Oct 09 10:53 |
| MinceR | is this RFID? | Oct 09 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's "REAL ID" compliant. | Oct 09 10:54 |
| MinceR | and what's that? | Oct 09 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually you won't be able to get on a plane or enter a federal building without one. | Oct 09 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | It's a set of requirements that the federal government imposed on the states. | Oct 09 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | Makes you prove that you're really you and where you live before you can get one. You have to bring in a mountain of paperwork. | Oct 09 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | Birth certificate, social security card, an unexpired Indiana driver's license, three bills with your current address on it. | Oct 09 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | I think I even had to bring a copy of my lease. | Oct 09 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 10:56 |
| MinceR | but is it RFID? :> | Oct 09 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | The cards also have extra "security" features on them. | Oct 09 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. It has an RFID chip in it. | Oct 09 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | As well as a barcode and magnetic strip on the back. | Oct 09 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | So if the RFID chip doesn't work, the cops can slide it or scan it and it will bring up your information on their computer in their police car. | Oct 09 10:57 |
| MinceR | they really went for the kitchen sink... | Oct 09 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | Oh yeah. | Oct 09 10:57 |
| MinceR | i got two "RFID blocking" wallets this week | Oct 09 10:57 |
| MinceR | they don't seem to work | Oct 09 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | Bars are also required to have them. | Oct 09 10:57 |
| MinceR | i put my entry card into them and i could read it through the wallet at the door | Oct 09 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | Before you can go in, they slide or scan the card, and the state will tell them if you're really old enough to enter. | Oct 09 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | It stops kids from using fake IDs. | Oct 09 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | I went into a county courthouse last year, and they slid my driver's license and told me that it was alright for me to enter. | Oct 09 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Well, it should be, seeing as how I paid for all of this and your salary." | Oct 09 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | The guy rolled his eyes at me. | Oct 09 10:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 10:59 |
| MinceR | did you catch his eyes? :> | Oct 09 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Oct 09 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then the metal detector went off. | Oct 09 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | They made me stand there and get patted down. | Oct 09 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | Then they took a handheld scanner and went over me, and it turned out that what was setting it off was my belt buckle and the rivets in my jeans. | Oct 09 11:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | They're getting really nasty. | Oct 09 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | 20 years ago, you just walked right in. | Oct 09 11:00 |
| MinceR | how dare you wear riveted jeans | Oct 09 11:00 |
| MinceR | and a belt buckle of all things? :> | Oct 09 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I know, right? :) | Oct 09 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | Are you in possession of anything that could harm another person? | Oct 09 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | Well, yeah, but so is everyone else. | Oct 09 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | "No." | Oct 09 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | Not like you're going to stand there and tell them how stupid that question is. | Oct 09 11:02 |
| MinceR | "fists, knees, elbows, legs..." | Oct 09 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | You can strangle someone with your belt. | Oct 09 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | or your hands | Oct 09 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | or you can punch them | Oct 09 11:02 |
| MinceR | "i can harm people's feelings using sarcasm" | Oct 09 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | or you can stab them in the neck with your ballpoint pen | Oct 09 11:02 |
| MinceR | or i could use profanity | Oct 09 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | you could headbutt someone | Oct 09 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | you could bite them | Oct 09 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 11:03 |
| MinceR | i could step on their foot | Oct 09 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | or kick them in the balls | Oct 09 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:03 |
| MinceR | or tear off their bandages with great force and speed | Oct 09 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | or do like Riddick did, and kill them with your teacup | Oct 09 11:04 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | "I can't quite pinch your carotid arteries shut using the power of my mind, yet, but I'll keep trying." | Oct 09 11:06 |
| MinceR | i can | Oct 09 11:07 |
| *DaemonFC needs to get ready to go see that car. | Oct 09 11:07 | |
| MinceR | i just need to funnel the power of my mind through my nerves to my hands | Oct 09 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | I like that color too. It's Ford's Toreador Red. | Oct 09 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | Unfortunately, red cars stand out more, so they get pulled over more. | Oct 09 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | I do have a radar detector though. | Oct 09 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't gotten a speeding ticket since I bought it. | Oct 09 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | I've had it since like 2002. | Oct 09 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | I got pulled over like three times in the course of 6 months, and kept getting warnings. | Oct 09 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | I decided a radar detector would be a good investment. | Oct 09 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | If they save you from one ticket, they've already more than paid for themselves. | Oct 09 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | The minimum fine for speeding in Indiana now is over $150. | Oct 09 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | If you're going 10 miles per hour over the posted limit in a construction or school zone, they can fine you up to $1,000. | Oct 09 11:10 |
| MinceR | i just read the police web site about where they're measuring | Oct 09 11:10 |
| MinceR | and tend to drive legally anyway | Oct 09 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | If you're going 15 miles an hour over, they can give you the $150 ticket, plus a $500 reckless driving ticket, plus 4 points on your license. | Oct 09 11:10 |
| DaemonFC | and if it's in a school or construction zone, each fine can be multiplied by four and they can take away your license for a year. | Oct 09 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | then you have to go to a remedial driving class at your expense, and pass it, before you can get your license back | Oct 09 11:11 |
| DaemonFC | then they make you carry an SR-22 for the next several years, which makes your insurance about triple what it used to be | Oct 09 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | ouch | Oct 09 11:12 |
| MinceR | what's an SR-22? | Oct 09 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | An SR-22 is a form from your insurance company that is proof of financial responsibility under a high risk car insurance policy | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | They usually make people carry them if they've had a DUI or too many speeding tickets. | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | Dawn had to carry one. | Oct 09 11:13 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | She was paying $120 a month for state minimum car insurance. | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | I pay $24 a month for the same coverage. | Oct 09 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | They consider me low risk. | Oct 09 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | They don't know me very well. | Oct 09 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | If they saw what I've done to that poor Taurus, they wouldn't be charging me $24. | Oct 09 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | Although to be perfectly fair, the back bumper was destroyed because I hit black ice. | Oct 09 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | and the front bumper was from when my brakes failed and I hit a building. | Oct 09 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | But nobody saw that, so I was OK, other than the broken bumper. | Oct 09 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | I had just had the brakes inspected too. | Oct 09 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | They told me there was nothing wrong with them. | Oct 09 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, other than the ABS master control that I never bothered to fix. | Oct 09 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'm just going to sell that electric bicycle. | Oct 09 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | The cost for the batteries has tripled since I bought it. | Oct 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | I need two replacements and I don't feel like spending $600 on that. | Oct 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | The whole reason I got it was because I figured I could save some gas on short trips around town. | Oct 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | and still be lazy and not like, you know, peddle or anything | Oct 09 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:19 |
| MinceR | so, what happened? | Oct 09 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | The sealed lead acid batteries are junk. | Oct 09 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | The lithium ion ones are over $300 each. | Oct 09 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | http://imagescdn.dealercarsearch.com/Media/6003/3391728/635127451381384468.jpg | Oct 09 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Oct 09 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | That one is in Ohio. | Oct 09 11:24 |
| *DaemonFC doesn't feel like driving to Ohio to buy a car though. | Oct 09 11:24 | |
| DaemonFC | Too much paperwork. | Oct 09 11:24 |
| MinceR | junk as in too low capacity? | Oct 09 11:25 |
| MinceR | or too heavy? | Oct 09 11:25 |
| MinceR | or dead? | Oct 09 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | too heavy and they don't last through too many charge cycles. | Oct 09 11:26 |
| MinceR | i'm surprised by the second | Oct 09 11:26 |
| MinceR | it seems to work well enough in cars :) | Oct 09 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | They say they last about 500 cycles. but I had one die already after less than 100 and the other one is only charging to about half | Oct 09 11:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I offered the guy $2,100, but he talked me up to $2,200. | Oct 09 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | He pointed out that he just put four brand new Michelin tires on it last year. | Oct 09 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's reasonable I guess. | Oct 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | Those probably set him back at least $600 | Oct 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | maybe more. | Oct 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | depends on the tire model | Oct 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to ask him to transfer over the tire warranty to me. | Oct 09 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | Those suckers are expensive to replace. | Oct 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | I always got the cheapest set of Goodyear tires for the Taurus. | Oct 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Seems like I always run over a nail or something while the tire is still good. | Oct 09 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really like the idea of getting the best set of tires and then running over a nail with those. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Goodyear has "fuel saver" tires now that they claim will increase your gas mileage by about 3%. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Independent tests show no change in fuel economy though. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Marketing bullshit. | Oct 09 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Helps justify the added expense of the tires. | Oct 09 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | ohhh | Oct 09 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | good timing | Oct 09 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | free 6" Elmo's Italian sub. | Oct 09 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | I have to go buy Elmo's anyway on my way up to look at that car. | Oct 09 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Might as well stop and get lunch. | Oct 09 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Time to head on up there. | Oct 09 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | First one there with the cash gets the car. | Oct 09 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Guy said he'd be back home at 1, so I have to get there. | Oct 09 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 11:44 |
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| iophk | http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Undercover-NYPD-Cop-Window-Smash-Video-SUV-Biker-Brawl-226892961.html | Oct 09 12:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nbcnewyork.com | Undercover NYPD Cop Arrested for Role in Assault on SUV Driver: Police | NBC New York [ http://ur1.ca/fv1u3 ] | Oct 09 12:34 |
| iophk | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/box-london-office-cloud-129153 | Oct 09 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Duke Of York Opens Box London Office [ http://ur1.ca/fv20q ] | Oct 09 13:09 |
| iophk | big grab for people's data | Oct 09 13:09 |
| iophk | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/security/3472909/mi5-head-says-prism-scandal-is-handing-advantage-terrorists/ | Oct 09 13:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.computerworlduk.com | MI5 head says Prism scandal is handing advantage to terrorists - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/fv20v ] | Oct 09 13:11 |
| iophk | http://dkeats.com/index.php?module=blog&action=viewsingle&postid=gen21Srv8Nme0_40332_1381256759 | Oct 09 14:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | dkeats.com | Department of Basic Education bans Free and Open Source Software in SA Schools and mandates programming an ancient, moribund language in contradiction of government's own policy [ http://ur1.ca/fv2bg ] | Oct 09 14:06 |
| iophk | Delphi and MSO | Oct 09 14:06 |
| iophk | Why not lazarus if pascal is required ? http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ | Oct 09 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.lazarus.freepascal.org | Lazarus Homepage | Oct 09 14:08 |
| iophk | There's also FPC | Oct 09 14:09 |
| iophk | http://www.freepascal.org/ | Oct 09 14:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.freepascal.org | Free Pascal - Advanced open source Pascal compiler for Pascal and Object Pascal - Home Page | Oct 09 14:09 |
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| DaemonFC | We have a winner. | Oct 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | The 1996 Ford Crown Victoria LX. | Oct 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | That thing is in awesome shape. | Oct 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | The guy said he could drive it over here tomorrow and we could do the sale at the DMV offive here in town. | Oct 09 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | *office | Oct 09 15:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 15:22 |
| MinceR | how much? | Oct 09 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | $2,200 | Oct 09 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | It's got power everything and 94,600 miles on the odometer. | Oct 09 15:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | No rust at all., | Oct 09 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Other than a few small scratches that I can buff out, it looks like it came off the lot yesterday. | Oct 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | That's an incredible deal. | Oct 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | They wanted $2,500 up at City Auto Mall for that 2004 Crown Vic that someone beat to hell and back, and it had 130,000 miles on it. | Oct 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | And it was missing a chunk out of the front grill. | Oct 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | and the transmission wasn't looking too good | Oct 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | and there was an exhaust leak | Oct 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | and one of the ABS sensors was shot | Oct 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | and the blend door motor was going to need replaced | Oct 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | and the list just went on and on | Oct 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | This 1996 model is not only cheaper, there's less miles on it and it's just in all around better shape. | Oct 09 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's the difference between an owner that maintains their car and one that just lets it go. | Oct 09 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, And it has a brand new set of Michelin tires on it. | Oct 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | His mom just put them on last winter. | Oct 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | They have pretty much all the tread left. | Oct 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | and he said she only used Premium gasoline (even though the car doesn't need that) | Oct 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | she kept it in the garage | Oct 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's worth more than I'm getting it for, I think the guy just needs the money right now and he's letting it go for less because I have cash in hand. | Oct 09 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | If he wanted to wait for a while, he'd probably find someone that would pay $3,000 for it. | Oct 09 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The only interior problems that I discovered were minor ones. | Oct 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | The radio won't turn off, but you can turn the volume all the way down. | Oct 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | and the rear driver's side door lock had a cap that his kid unscrewed and lost | Oct 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | I can probably get a replacement cap for a couple dollars, and I'm going to replace the radio deck with one that has a CD player anyway. :) | Oct 09 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | So, his mother only put an average of 5,255 miles on it each year. | Oct 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | That's an extremely low mileage. | Oct 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | I see '07s and '08s with 150,000+ on them. | Oct 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | all the time | Oct 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | people drive further to work than they used to | Oct 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | The economy is so bad now that driving 30 miles or more to work is common. | Oct 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | My mom's Impala has about 275,000 on it, and it's an '03 | Oct 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | I only put like two or three thousand miles on my car every year. | Oct 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I just want a nicer car. | Oct 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | The Taurus is literally rotting. | Oct 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I looked underneath the car today and I kind of wish I hadn't. | Oct 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's that bad. | Oct 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That's exactly what I was looking for. A late model grandma car that was garaged, maintained, and driven to the grocery store and church and back into the garage. | Oct 09 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | You find those every so often. Where the car is like 20 years old, but low mileage and great shape. | Oct 09 15:34 |
| MinceR | i thought short trips didn't do good to cars | Oct 09 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not worried about this car. | Oct 09 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | Those Ford 4.6 liter modular V8s can take some serious punishment. | Oct 09 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | The police departments run them 24 hours a day and put 150,000 miles of chasing speeders and running over sidewalks and shit on them. | Oct 09 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | and when they get rid of them, they still run. | Oct 09 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | That's why taxi companies buy them. | Oct 09 15:36 |
| *DaemonFC needs to get better car insurance now. | Oct 09 15:36 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to do comprehensive and collision and double my liability coverage. | Oct 09 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | You just know that with my luck, the retards that the city has plowing the roads will run into it. | Oct 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | Or a tree will fall over on it. | Oct 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | At this point, I just have minimum coverage on the Taurus because I don't give a shit about it. | Oct 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | If a tree fell over on it, the insurance company might cut me a check for $900, and I've saved more than that by having minimum coverage since I've owned it. | Oct 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | but with this Crown Vic, they'd go NADA black book and probably give me $3500-4000 if it was totaled. | Oct 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | So it's worth buying more coverage. | Oct 09 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | That Taurus is in such bad shape, I'm surprised I haven't put my foot through the floor yet. | Oct 09 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | The owner before me lived in Michigan where they get REALLY harsh winters. | Oct 09 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | and it's obvious that he never bothered to wash the undercarriage | Oct 09 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | I think it's cumulative road salt damage. | Oct 09 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | There's no reversing it. | Oct 09 15:40 |
| iophk | salt quotas | Oct 09 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | This dude with the Crown Vic said his mom lived in Florida until a few years ago. | Oct 09 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | So it's never really been around any Indiana winters. | Oct 09 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | iophk, Yeah. | Oct 09 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | The city waits for a fucking blizzard and then shows up and salts at......4 PM, when the sun has already came out and melted most of it off anyway. | Oct 09 15:41 |
| MinceR | they could make the government obey the same rules they force on citizens | Oct 09 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | and then taxpayers have to pay them $15 an hour | Oct 09 15:41 |
| iophk | gotta salt the roads during the winter even if it is only raining | Oct 09 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | for ruining their cars | Oct 09 15:42 |
| MinceR | (no salt, only a more expensive but safer stuff) | Oct 09 15:42 |
| MinceR | (not sure what it's made of) | Oct 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> they could make the government obey the same rules they force on citizens | Oct 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | Hah. | Oct 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | HAHAHA!!! | Oct 09 15:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | BWAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!! | Oct 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | that's a knee slapper | Oct 09 15:42 |
| MinceR | i know, it's called 'rule of law' | Oct 09 15:42 |
| MinceR | hungarians don't know about it | Oct 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | The goa'uld probably have better government than Indiana's. | Oct 09 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, We have laws, they just get selectively enforced. | Oct 09 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | and when they get enforced, they get enforced on some people more than others | Oct 09 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | It's like when Winston Smith realized that nothing was illegal because there were no longer any laws. | Oct 09 15:44 |
| MinceR | same here | Oct 09 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | They do whatever they want, to whoever they want, whenever they want to do it. | Oct 09 15:44 |
| MinceR | except for Winston Smith | Oct 09 15:44 |
| MinceR | everything is illegal | Oct 09 15:44 |
| MinceR | in a modern dictatorship | Oct 09 15:44 |
| MinceR | so they can lawfully have the police take anyone away if they want to | Oct 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Did you know that oral sex is a felony in Indiana? | Oct 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | Hasn't been enforced since the 1960s. | Oct 09 15:45 |
| MinceR | i didn't know | Oct 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | Hasn't been enforceable since 2003. | Oct 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | but they keep it on the books | Oct 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | It's a way of shaming people without really being able to do anything about it at all. | Oct 09 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | and then you find out that the Indiana General Assembly members are paying 18 year old male prostitutes they met off of Craigslist. | Oct 09 15:46 |
| MinceR | well, the hypocrite cultists would get their panties in a bunch if people wanted to take it off the books | Oct 09 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, there's people I want moral advice from. | Oct 09 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | "Suck my dick and I'll give you an ipad!" | Oct 09 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | seriously | Oct 09 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | That's who makes our laws. | Oct 09 15:46 |
| MinceR | (because only priests are allowed to get blowjobs, preferably from little boys) | Oct 09 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think there's anything I need to learn from them. | Oct 09 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that it's an institution that deserves respect. | Oct 09 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's hypocritical and they need to be ridiculed at every possible opportunity. | Oct 09 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Did you hear what Indiana's General Assembly did last week? | Oct 09 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | They raised the tolls on the Indiana toll road (the one that goes to Chicago) and then passed another law that says that they get to use that road for free, whenever they want. | Oct 09 15:48 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 09 15:49 |
| MinceR | http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/22344000/ngbbs4d35e657e7635.jpg | Oct 09 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | They dipped into the state's general fund to install a system that scans for devices they had installed in their personal vehicles. | Oct 09 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | and it automatically waves the toll for them and raises the gate!!! | Oct 09 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | and we're paying for this! | Oct 09 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, I could understand installing those devices into state-owned vehicles for cops and stuff. | Oct 09 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | as long as they were on official state business when they used the road | Oct 09 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | Several state senators (all Democrats) refused the devices and said it wasn't fair for them to not pay the same toll that everyone else did. | Oct 09 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | Those are the people that need re-elected. | Oct 09 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | Probably one out of every ten that's in there. | Oct 09 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | they've really let that road go too. | Oct 09 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | It used to be the best road in Indiana. | Oct 09 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | They repaved it about every year. | Oct 09 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | Now it's full of potholes. | Oct 09 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | I saw one that was so big that it could probably break an axle the last time I drove on that road. | Oct 09 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | They have the money to fix it. The road generates alot of revenue, but they don't fix it. | Oct 09 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | That all started when they privatized it. | Oct 09 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The suspension in that Crown Vic is awesome. | Oct 09 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | Couldn't feel a single bump in the road. | Oct 09 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | My Taurus is so bad right now that when you get it up to 65, it feels like the car is going to shake itself apart. :P | Oct 09 15:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 15:59 |
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| MinceR | sounds like you might be better off with an SUV after all :> | Oct 09 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | The guy says it handles very well on the snow. I said I believe him because it's enormous and heavy. | Oct 09 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, you should see the trunk on that Vic. | Oct 09 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | I'm 6'4 and about 170 pounds. | Oct 09 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | I actually got into the trunk. | Oct 09 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | There was probably room for three of me in there. | Oct 09 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's the perfect car to have if a friend needs you to dispose of some bodies. | Oct 09 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 16:01 |
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| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I've found my car. | Oct 09 16:01 |
| MinceR | "dude, where's my car?" | Oct 09 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | I was leaning towards maybe getting an SUV or a minivan, but this Crown Vic is just so awesome. | Oct 09 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | Plus all the used vans I came across were in really bad shape. | Oct 09 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | If you find a used van for under $4,000, it's either rusted out or has 200,000 miles on it. | Oct 09 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | So if I went for a van, I would have needed about $5,000 instead of $2,200. | Oct 09 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sick of scrimping and saving. I'm not going to find a better car than this unless I save up like $6,000 or more, probably. | Oct 09 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel like being miserable and going without for another year. | Oct 09 16:03 |
| MinceR | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/visited-washington.jpg | Oct 09 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | The car to price ratio on this is just about as good as it gets. | Oct 09 16:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | pics.nase-bohren.de | visited-washington.jpg - pics.nase-bohren.de 0.06 - Wir bohren einfach weiter [ http://ur1.ca/fv32f ] | Oct 09 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | Well, we both came out with a good deal. | Oct 09 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | I get a totally badass car, and he gets a big stack of $20 bills. | Oct 09 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | You can get a much better deal with a private sale than a dealer. | Oct 09 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | If this car was at a dealer lot, it would be about $3,400 and then they'd stick you with a $120 "documentation fee". | Oct 09 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | They use those fees so that they can sneak in another $120 at the end of the sale. | Oct 09 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Makes the cars look a little cheaper than they actually are. | Oct 09 16:06 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, There was a car dealership that my parents bought a couple of new vehicles from in the 90s. | Oct 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | They had a commercial "If you buy this stuffed bear at our price, you get the vehicle at no additional charge". | Oct 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it was supposed to be funny, but it was too close to the truth. | Oct 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | The dealers make you pay all kinds of stupid fees so they can price the cars lower. | Oct 09 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | You're really in for a raping if you buy new. | Oct 09 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | Not only does the vehicle lose 20% of the value right after you drive it off the lot, but they cram in that $120 documentation fee, *and* a $300 fee for driving it from the factory to their lot. | Oct 09 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Don't they kind of have to do that anyway? | Oct 09 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Isn't it just a cost of doing business? :D | Oct 09 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | They also have this thing called "Invoice pricing" where they say that there is no markup, you're buying it for what they got it for from the factory. | Oct 09 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | So you say "that makes no sense at all". | Oct 09 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | It does. | Oct 09 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | They sell you the vehicle at invoice, and then the company that made the car gives them a 20% "rebate". | Oct 09 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | The new car market is the worst it's ever been. | Oct 09 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | A new Ford Taurus for the 2014 model is $43,000 now. | Oct 09 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then since nobody can actually cough up $43,000, they finance it at high interest. | Oct 09 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | So you really pay like $60,000 when you're done. | Oct 09 16:12 |
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| DaemonFC | That sub that I got on the way back was delicious. | Oct 09 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | I looking into the batch of coupons that came in the junk mail today and I found one for a free toasted italian sub at Elmo's. | Oct 09 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | So I took some potato chips with me and bought a fountain pop for a dollar. | Oct 09 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | This is turning into a really good day. | Oct 09 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's like everything is just going right. | Oct 09 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | Why not? | Oct 09 16:15 |
| *DaemonFC turns up the subwoofer. | Oct 09 16:15 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M | Oct 09 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Kool & The Gang - Celebration - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv34n ] | Oct 09 16:15 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Sonata Arctica - Reckoning Night - 2. Blinded No More | Oct 09 16:16 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pm4fQRl72k | Oct 09 16:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Queen - I Want It All - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv35z ] | Oct 09 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | There we go. :) | Oct 09 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | I might swing by Ziebart and have them detail that car. | Oct 09 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.ziebart.com/ziebart---home/auto-detailing/scratch-scuff-repair | Oct 09 16:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.ziebart.com | Scratch - Scuff Repair [ http://ur1.ca/fv36m ] | Oct 09 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Oh cool. | Oct 09 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | I might have them do that too. | Oct 09 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | There were a few nicks and scratches here and there. | Oct 09 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I'm going to get those taken care of now before they start rusting. :) | Oct 09 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4gVfxhPvxk | Oct 09 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | I Can't Break Away by Big Pig - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv37q ] | Oct 09 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Party on dude! | Oct 09 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | Be excellent to each other! | Oct 09 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 09 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | The last time I had the Taurus in the shop, they offered to replace the muffler. | Oct 09 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Have you....looked at the rest of the car? No thanks." | Oct 09 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | A new muffler would cost me more than the car is worth. | Oct 09 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten to the point where just about anything I do to it approaches the value of the car. | Oct 09 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | So the exhaust comes out of the holes in the side instead of the tailpipe? | Oct 09 16:30 |
| MinceR | https://github.com/WhiteHouse/fortyfour/issues/3 | Oct 09 16:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | github.com | BUG: Government occasionally shuts down Issue #3 WhiteHouse/fortyfour GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/fv2t7 ] | Oct 09 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | Is that hurting anything? | Oct 09 16:30 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: yes, my eardrums | Oct 09 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's not loud actually. | Oct 09 16:31 |
| MinceR | it's apparently fashionable to drive cars without a muffler | Oct 09 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | The hole in the side is larger than the diameter of the tail pipe. | Oct 09 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | Every time I take my car in they offer to replace something expensive. | Oct 09 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | So my reply is "Will it kill anyone if you don't fix it?" | Oct 09 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 16:32 |
| MinceR | "we thought we'd replace the car." | Oct 09 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Oct 09 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's gotten to where before I leave I have them call me before they do any work, with an estimate." | Oct 09 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | I told the dude "Don't go building me a new car without asking." | Oct 09 16:33 |
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| MinceR | :D | Oct 09 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure if you look closely enough, every major thing on that car has something wrong with it. | Oct 09 16:33 |
| MinceR | yes, it's a ford :> | Oct 09 16:34 |
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| DaemonFC | It's a 20 year old Ford Taurus that the last owner beat the shit out of and someone vandalized when they were trying to hotwire it. | Oct 09 16:35 |
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| DaemonFC | So yeah, not perfect. | Oct 09 16:35 |
| MinceR | not even Prefect? :> | Oct 09 16:35 |
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| DaemonFC | but for some reason, it developed a completely new feature | Oct 09 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | If I lose my car keys, I can start it with a screwdriver. | Oct 09 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 16:35 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVpjtWyVc6M | Oct 09 16:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | How to Hot-Wire a Car - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv39u ] | Oct 09 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | Pound a screwdriver into the ignition then turn the screwdriver. | Oct 09 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | This will destroy the ignition cylinder, but is effective on most cars built before the mid 90's. | Oct 09 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 09 16:38 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 09 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | Why did they even give you a key? | Oct 09 16:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Why not just put a button there so that the thief wouldn't do $1,000 worth of damage when they did steal your car? | Oct 09 16:43 |
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| DaemonFC | Car doors are easy to pry open. | Oct 09 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason to lock them is because the insurance won't pay you if you leave them unlocked and the car gets stolen. | Oct 09 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | my grandmother left her car unlocked, and a thief got in and stole her stereo deck. | Oct 09 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | The guy at the auto repair shop said he'd bust the door open to make it look like she had it locked, and then fix that too. | Oct 09 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Well, being the good Christian lady that she is, she said no. (her story) | Oct 09 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | My story: She had a new stereo deck in the car the next month. What do you think happened? :) | Oct 09 16:46 |
| MinceR | the broke in and stole it | Oct 09 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | she probably did have that guy make it look like they broke in | Oct 09 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | those OEM decks are NOT cheap. | Oct 09 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | In the 1990s, they were like $600. | Oct 09 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | But you can get a better one at Walmart for $150. | Oct 09 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, I know. This is how OEM parts on cars are. :) | Oct 09 16:48 |
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| DaemonFC | They told my dad that a replacement ash tray was going to be $300. | Oct 09 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 09 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | He didn't even smoke. He just always fixes everything that breaks on any car he owns. | Oct 09 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | He's pedantic like that. | Oct 09 16:49 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 09 16:49 |
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| MinceR | http://rt.com/usa/ohio-man-legally-dead-916/ | Oct 09 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/fv3g5 ] | Oct 09 17:04 |
| MinceR | gn | Oct 09 17:32 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/brazil-spying-report-spotlights-canadas-electronic-eavesdroppers/article14720003/#dashboard/follows/ | Oct 10 00:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theglobeandmail.com | Charges that Canada spied on Brazil unveil CSEC's inner workings - The Globe and Mail [ http://ur1.ca/fv5eu ] | Oct 10 00:10 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS2Ba9gTPOo | Oct 10 00:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | GPS Allstate TV Commercial - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5ge ] | Oct 10 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Sync with Microsoft! | Oct 10 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWC6PWSJ50s | Oct 10 00:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Test Driver Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5gr ] | Oct 10 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhyQgskfjNc | Oct 10 00:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Guard Dog Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5he ] | Oct 10 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G8JZwh5ZHY | Oct 10 00:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Tree Branch Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5hh ] | Oct 10 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | SHaky shaky! | Oct 10 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDL7RqPr5c | Oct 10 00:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Lawn Game Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5hw ] | Oct 10 00:29 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC_UXK1vvds | Oct 10 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Mayhem: Text Walker Video - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fv5jd ] | Oct 10 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The guy I am buying the Crown Vic from mentioned how messed up our government is. | Oct 10 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | I told him it's like that Alien Vs. Predator tagline. | Oct 10 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Whoever wins, we lose." | Oct 10 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | You've got the business criminals and the Nazis. | Oct 10 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I'd rather have ordinary business criminals running things than Nazis. | Oct 10 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | But they're both bad. | Oct 10 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Alot of these Tea Party people are really just neoconfederates. | Oct 10 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | It's that "States Rights Democratic Party" bullshit from the 1960s all over again. | Oct 10 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | When bad stuff happens, extremists get a foothold in government. | Oct 10 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | I understand that actual Nazis are taking over slowly in Greece. | Oct 10 01:17 |
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| MinceR | they already took over here | Oct 10 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't suppose the idle threats about being expelled from the EU are slowing them down at all. | Oct 10 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 01:53 |
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| MinceR | they didn't slow them down at all | Oct 10 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kernschevysuperstore.com/detail.aspx?id=3391728&PrefID=0&.aspx | Oct 10 01:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.kernschevysuperstore.com | 1996 Ford Crown Victoria - Used Sedan Lima OH | Kerns Chevrolet Buick GMC [ http://ur1.ca/fv5v9 ] | Oct 10 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | I got my mom looking at that one. | Oct 10 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Dave couldn't understand why I wanted one. | Oct 10 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | I told him "It's big, reliable, fast, and cheap." | Oct 10 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | The ricers get some o them, but at least they're dealing with a real car. Not a Honda Civic. :) | Oct 10 01:57 |
| MinceR | afaik honda civics are real cars | Oct 10 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | The only argument for a Honda Civic is it gets good gas mileage. | Oct 10 01:59 |
| MinceR | and that it's reliable | Oct 10 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it should, because it takes three of them to equal one car | Oct 10 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | You get into a wreck and you're finished. | Oct 10 01:59 |
| MinceR | well, there's that | Oct 10 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | The entire car is a crumple zone. | Oct 10 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it's basically a fiberglass body on a motorcycle engine | Oct 10 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | I read one person's post about hitting a Toyota Camry with their Ford Crown Victoria. | Oct 10 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | They said that the Crown Vic needed a paint touch up and a new headlight cover. | Oct 10 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | They said the Camry was totaled. | Oct 10 02:01 |
| MinceR | no, it's a compact car :> | Oct 10 02:01 |
| MinceR | not sure about the fiberglass either | Oct 10 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | The person driving the Camry made the really dumb mistake of trying to change lanes without signaling and got rear-ended. | Oct 10 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | and the entire back half of their car was crushed by the Crown Vic. | Oct 10 02:02 |
| MinceR | they don't know about turn signals in the usa either? :> | Oct 10 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that you'd look, see the Crown Vic, and decide that you don't want to get in the way. | Oct 10 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | So apparently the dumb bitch didn't look or signal. | Oct 10 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, no matter what happens, the person that hits the back of another car is "at fault". | Oct 10 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | Kind of like how I was "at fault" when the jogger listening to his ipod decided to run out in front of my car. | Oct 10 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | If I had it to do over again from the point of seeing if he was OK, I would have curb stomped the ipod. | Oct 10 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | He had.....a small bruise, and my insurance rate tripled for three years. | Oct 10 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Six months later, my mom noticed that my Taurus was filthy but that there was a giant "clean streak" on the hood. | Oct 10 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Yeah, that was the guy with the ipod." | Oct 10 02:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | The hit knocked him up onto the hood, then he landed about 10 feet from the driver side of the car. | Oct 10 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | I got out and asked if he was alright. First words out of his mouth are "You stupid son of a bitch!". | Oct 10 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | If fleeing the scene wasn't a crime I would have said "So, that's a yes?" and left. | Oct 10 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | Only in this country can you run out into traffic and blame the driver of the car that hits you. | Oct 10 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Probably wouldn't be the case if common sense prevailed, but trial lawyers probably love it. | Oct 10 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I've had some fun times with that Taurus. | Oct 10 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's had about as much of me as it can take. | Oct 10 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 10 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yesterday, I was going 50 miles an hour down a country road to go look at the Crown Vic, and I see a railroad crossing. | Oct 10 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Thought nothing of it because most of them are flat. | Oct 10 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | This one wasn't. | Oct 10 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | So I went flying into the air, probably 5-6 feet off the ground, and then landed. | Oct 10 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | and my trunk flies open | Oct 10 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | I need to call that guy tomorrow and tell him to watch out for that railroad crossing. | Oct 10 02:12 |
| DaemonFC | It would be nice if there was a posted warning about that. | Oct 10 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | But no. The speed limit is 50 and all of a sudden, you're airborne. | Oct 10 02:13 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/387867100607299584 | Oct 10 02:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz not first time wealthy empowered loony movements only to find they made monsters. Is how the Wiemar Republic collapsed too. | Oct 10 02:25 |
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| DaemonFC | I'll have this Vic purring like a kitten. | Oct 10 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'll give it a tune up sometime next spring. | Oct 10 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | new plugs and wires | Oct 10 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have a shop do it because if they fuck up and break one of the plugs, they're the ones that have to figure out how to get it out. | Oct 10 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | I want to get a coolant flush right away because winter is coming and all the shops have those on special right now. | Oct 10 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | I could do it myself, but for $45 they can have right at it. | Oct 10 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 02:30 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.dummies.com/Section/Windows-8.id-811990.html | Oct 10 02:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dummies.com | Microsoft Windows 8 - For Dummies [ http://ur1.ca/fv65d ] | Oct 10 02:35 |
| MinceR | they left an 'is' out there | Oct 10 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I had my mom ask if she should take her car to Walmart's oil change place. | Oct 10 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | I said "Only if you want an excuse to go new car shopping.". | Oct 10 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | She asked me why I said that. I told her "Because I was a manager at Walmart and got to deal with customers that left without oil in the engine, had their drain plug stripped out, had the oil overfilled, had them bill them for an oil change and then not do one....." | Oct 10 02:49 |
| DaemonFC | I remember one day when someone brought their BMW (to Walmart!) and had it fall off the lift. | Oct 10 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/how-does-walmart-make-money-on-a-20-oil-change/18504/page1/ | Oct 10 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | grassrootsmotorsports.com | How does walmart make money on a $20 oil change?: Off-Topic Discussion forum: Grassroots Motorsports Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/fv687 ] | Oct 10 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | "cheap oil, cheaper filter, and minimum wage...FTW " | Oct 10 02:53 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | "will any of these places (that charge so little) use the oil you specify" | Oct 10 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart will, but they charge the shelf price of the oil * number of quarts + an extra $2 | Oct 10 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | People who are picky about motor oil brands have...issues. | Oct 10 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've gotten cars up to nearly 300,000 miles using nothing but bulk/off brand motor oils. | Oct 10 02:57 |
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| DaemonFC | It's just not that big of a deal as long as it complies with the relevant standards and you actually change it on time. | Oct 10 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | They get people on the hook with "high mileage" and "full synthetic" oils. | Oct 10 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | but unless you're driving a sports car that calls for it, you're just wasting money | Oct 10 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've torn down engines, and the biggest difference was not brand of oil, it was whether it got changed on time. | Oct 10 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | 3,000 miles is a good interval the "or 3 months" part is so they can sell you more oil changes. | Oct 10 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | It should be 3,000 miles or 9 months if you ask me | Oct 10 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | unless you do a lot of stop and go or idling. | Oct 10 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | Some of the filthiest engines are the ones where people do use full synthetic and actually believe that 15,000 mile marketing crap | Oct 10 03:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't do Walmart oil changes, ever. Even on my 20 year old rusted out shitpile. | Oct 10 03:05 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't even trust them with that. | Oct 10 03:05 |
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| DaemonFC | For $3 more you can go across the street to the Ford dealer and have someone that knows what they're doing and won't impact strip your drain plug and stick a FRAM filter on your car. | Oct 10 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | Totally worth it. | Oct 10 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | I made it a point to ask the guy with the Crown Vic for his service records for the car. | Oct 10 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | I saw that it got all of its oil changes at Crain Ford. | Oct 10 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | That made me feel alot better. | Oct 10 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | Most people go to Walmart because they think they're being smart by having a minimum wage teenager work on their $30,000 car. | Oct 10 03:11 |
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| DaemonFC | http://auto.howstuffworks.com/5-benefits-of-an-engine-flush.htm | Oct 10 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 03:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | auto.howstuffworks.com | HowStuffWorks "5 Benefits of an Engine Flush" [ http://ur1.ca/fv6c5 ] | Oct 10 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | Engine flushes destroy engines. | Oct 10 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | Air conditioners are a "if it works, leave it alone" thing. | Oct 10 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | You want to run them every so often even in winter, to circulate the oil in the system. | Oct 10 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | I've had some old cars where the compressor would start leaking. Those compressors aren't cheap, and the labor hours aren't either. | Oct 10 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | If it's a minor leak, you can get away with recharging it yourself with R-134a + "stop leak". | Oct 10 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | usually | Oct 10 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | I had a car where I did that and the air conditioner worked for the next five years. By then I was ready to sell it as a beater anyway. | Oct 10 03:17 |
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| iophk | https://dfri.se/wiki/access-europa-eu-complaint/ | Oct 10 03:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | dfri.se | access-europa-eu-complaint [ http://ur1.ca/fv6j0 ] | Oct 10 03:56 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Oct 10 04:12 |
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| iophk | http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/09/hp-admits-what-we-already-knew-microsoft-is-at-war-with-its-oem-partners/ | Oct 10 05:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techcrunch.com | HP Admits What We Already Knew: Microsoft Is At War With Its OEM Partners | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/fv6xa ] | Oct 10 05:17 |
| iophk | Maybe the OEM monopoly will weaken and break soon. There are already a few Chromebooks available. | Oct 10 05:18 |
| iophk | Getting full Gnu/linux out there would be the next sign. | Oct 10 05:18 |
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| iophk | serious M$ apologist: http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/10/09/what-is-the-worst-thing-about-working-at-microsoft/ | Oct 10 05:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | What Is The Worst Thing About Working At Microsoft? - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/fv6y5 ] | Oct 10 05:21 |
| JimmyCarter | lol | Oct 10 05:25 |
| iophk | It is interesting to see what their party line is these days. | Oct 10 05:28 |
| JimmyCarter | fix your bugs and maybe people will stop "doubting" you | Oct 10 05:28 |
| iophk | and their business model | Oct 10 05:28 |
| iophk | M$ has squashed a lot of innovation over the years and even whole businesses | Oct 10 05:29 |
| JimmyCarter | whats last innovation ms squashed? | Oct 10 05:29 |
| JimmyCarter | seems like that was the 90s to me | Oct 10 05:30 |
| JimmyCarter | perhaps you would say nokia | Oct 10 05:30 |
| iophk | meego would be one of the latest but it's not completely out | Oct 10 05:30 |
| iophk | it has some new life in Jolla | Oct 10 05:30 |
| iophk | They did a second round of pre-orders recently | Oct 10 05:30 |
| iophk | ODF was another high profile tech, but even it is not gone completely | Oct 10 05:31 |
| iophk | Stacker was one of the first I remember | Oct 10 05:32 |
| iophk | even the effects on hardware are lessening with ARM becoming popular. | Oct 10 05:33 |
| iophk | MIPS might be on the edge of a revival. | Oct 10 05:33 |
| iophk | It's in a fair number of network appliances but not the desktop | Oct 10 05:33 |
| JimmyCarter | interesting re MIPS | Oct 10 05:41 |
| iophk | RMS runs MIPS | Oct 10 05:41 |
| iophk | http://richard.stallman.usesthis.com/ | Oct 10 05:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | richard.stallman.usesthis.com | The Setup / Richard Stallman | Oct 10 05:41 |
| iophk | http://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html | Oct 10 05:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | stallman.org | How I do my Computing [ http://ur1.ca/0dj8d ] | Oct 10 05:42 |
| iophk | '"We're convinced that innovation will be greatly enhanced and improved if Microsoft's heavy hand of monopoly is removed from the industry," said Ed Black, president of the Computer & Communications Industry Association (CCIA).' | Oct 10 05:51 |
| iophk | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/781765.stm | Oct 10 05:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | news.bbc.co.uk | BBC NEWS | Business | Has Microsoft stifled innovation? [ http://ur1.ca/fv736 ] | Oct 10 05:51 |
| iophk | https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/avoiding-layoffs-motivates-south-tyrol-province-wide-switch | Oct 10 05:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | joinup.ec.europa.eu | Avoiding layoffs motivates South Tyrol province-wide switch | Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/fv74b ] | Oct 10 05:59 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/10/att-the-internet-is-awesome-so-lets-get-rid-of-phone-regulations/ | Oct 10 06:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | AT&T: The Internet is awesome, so lets get rid of phone regulations | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fv7ex ] | Oct 10 06:53 |
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| DaemonFC | that's hilarious | Oct 10 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | The first Google result for "pirate" is The Pirate Bay. | Oct 10 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | with links to browse torrents or the Top 100. | Oct 10 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 08:31 |
| DaemonFC | Their infobox even has the Pirate Ship logo with information on The Pirate Bay from Wikipedia. | Oct 10 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | Then a link to the Pittsburgh Pirates. | Oct 10 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | Then a link to Wikipedia's page on piracy at sea. | Oct 10 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | I couldn't have done that better myself. | Oct 10 08:33 |
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| DaemonFC | So, I should be able to finalize the deal on that car today. | Oct 10 08:54 |
| *DaemonFC feels like a kid on Christmas morning. | Oct 10 08:55 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It feels good knowing that you own something nice and didn't have to bring the fucking banks into the process. | Oct 10 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 10 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | The guy I'm buying the car from told me about his first car. He said that it was a Chevy Nova that had a bad engine. He bought it because it was $100 and he figured he'd just drop another engine into it. | Oct 10 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said that before he ever got to do that, a city garbage truck ran into the car. | Oct 10 08:57 |
| oiaohm | I have just had some sport with my debian break and failing to load anything gtk based. | Oct 10 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | Their insurance company totaled it out and paid him $300 for it. | Oct 10 08:57 |
| oiaohm | Pushed all gtk libraries back to stable and its running again. | Oct 10 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said he was thrilled. | Oct 10 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | (In the 1970s when that was a fair bit of money.) | Oct 10 08:58 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: profit from insurnace company is rare. | Oct 10 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | The US Dollar has lost more than half the value it had in the (nearly) 30 years I've been alive. | Oct 10 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | So in today's terms he probably paid $400 for it and got $1,200. | Oct 10 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 10 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | something like that | Oct 10 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | Congress is on a mission to debauch the currency so that people are punished for saving. | Oct 10 08:59 |
| oiaohm | Seen the one with MS releasing RDP clients on Android and OSi | Oct 10 09:00 |
| DaemonFC | The Fed's goal is inflation because it scares people into spending everything they have quickly while it still buys something. | Oct 10 09:00 |
| oiaohm | Ok gnome-terminal still busted. | Oct 10 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | I had to doctor GNOME up alot just to make it work right. | Oct 10 09:01 |
| DaemonFC | "Out of the box experience" is horrible. | Oct 10 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | I still wish there was an extension to disable their new system tray and put it back in the main panel where it was in GNOME 2. | Oct 10 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | Is there? | Oct 10 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 09:02 |
| MinceR | just upgrade to xfce | Oct 10 09:03 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: what ever went wrong with the GTK took out xfce as well. | Oct 10 09:04 |
| MinceR | your fault for not using stable :> | Oct 10 09:04 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora will fix it up. | Oct 10 09:05 |
| MinceR | and break itself. | Oct 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | They're a lot better than they used to be. | Oct 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | They used to ship some obviously and horribly broken releases. | Oct 10 09:05 |
| MinceR | i still don't trust yum. | Oct 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | but their latest ones are quite good | Oct 10 09:05 |
| DaemonFC | yum is being replaced soon-ish | Oct 10 09:06 |
| MinceR | with what? | Oct 10 09:06 |
| DaemonFC | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF | Oct 10 09:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | fedoraproject.org | Features/DNF - FedoraProject [ http://ur1.ca/9j26l ] | Oct 10 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | A fork of yum. | Oct 10 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 09:07 |
| MinceR | Duke Nukem Forever. :> | Oct 10 09:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum. | Oct 10 09:08 |
| DaemonFC | ...and I'm all out of gum. | Oct 10 09:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 09:08 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my system is about 80 percent testing. | Oct 10 09:13 |
| DaemonFC | The last time I sold a car, I sold it to a lady on Social Security. | Oct 10 09:13 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: expect issues, then :> | Oct 10 09:13 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: funny enough this is the first major break in 4 years. | Oct 10 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | So I put down that I sold it to her for $50. | Oct 10 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Oct 10 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | The sales tax alone would have wiped her out that month. Does the state care? No. | Oct 10 09:14 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: yes debian testing issues are supprising rare I think its something about wayland | Oct 10 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | I asked the guy I'm buying the car from if he'd put down that I bought it for $100. | Oct 10 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | He said no. | Oct 10 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | So there goes $100-something to the state. | Oct 10 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | Damn it. | Oct 10 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | I would have bought the car and titled it yesterday, but his dad owned the car and when he died, nobody titled it over to anyone else. | Oct 10 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | So technically the car belongs to a dead person. | Oct 10 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | So he has to bring the death certificate to the DMV office, *and* his Power Of Attorney over his mom. | Oct 10 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the only way he can legally sell me the car. | Oct 10 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | I thought about asking him to just sign his dad's name on the title. | Oct 10 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt the state would have figured it out, but knowing my luck.... | Oct 10 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | and if he does that, then there's no telling who would find out and challenge it | Oct 10 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | "He didn't have the right to do that and dad and my senile mother would want *me* to have the car!" | Oct 10 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm not taking any of that risk. | Oct 10 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | He can either get the paperwork together and title it over legally, or I'm going to have to walk. | Oct 10 09:19 |
| DaemonFC | It would just kill me to do that, but I'm not going to risk any entanglement with our government over this. | Oct 10 09:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, See what kind of a mess can happen when there's no planning for what to do with someone's estate? | Oct 10 09:21 |
| MinceR | meh | Oct 10 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | Technically it's his dad's estate, through his Power of Attorney over his mother that is selling me the car. | Oct 10 09:21 |
| DaemonFC | My grandmother never changed the phone bill over to her name after my grandfather died. | Oct 10 09:22 |
| DaemonFC | 15 years later, my phone still says his name when she calls me. | Oct 10 09:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Phone company doesn't care. Someone pays the bill. | Oct 10 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | cat is throwing up | Oct 10 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | I had to grab him and hold him over the trash can. | Oct 10 09:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: mind you dead person with assest does cause some tax fun. | Oct 10 09:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: sometimes it cheaper to run the estate for ever | Oct 10 09:23 |
| DaemonFC | "HERE! *HEAVE HEAVE HEAVE!* LET ME *BARF* PUKE ALL OVER THE CARPET!" | Oct 10 09:23 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: worst I have had was a dog after a evil batch of dog biskets. | Oct 10 09:24 |
| DaemonFC | I call my cat the Foul Smelling Beast. | Oct 10 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | "Who's my foul smelling beast? You're my foul smelling beast! Yes you are!" | Oct 10 09:28 |
| MinceR | smelly cat, smelly cat | Oct 10 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, good timing | Oct 10 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | The local Ford dealer sent me coupons for an oil change, a coolant flush, and a transmission drain and fill and filter change. | Oct 10 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | probably ended up on their mailing list when I was looking for a used Ford | Oct 10 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | When I take it in for a tune up in a few months, I'm just going to have them change the plugs, wires, and coil packs all at once. | Oct 10 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | The labor is the main thing. | Oct 10 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | I'd feel pretty stupid if I had a wire or coil pack go bad after they just had it all disassembled to change the plugs. | Oct 10 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | No, it doesn't need a tune up, but you shouldn't really wait until it does. | Oct 10 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | It's nearing 100,000 miles, so that's the time to do it. | Oct 10 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | Ford's service manual says 100,000 is the time to do the plugs and wires. | Oct 10 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | I plan to pick up the service schedule right where they left off. | Oct 10 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | Someone took exceptionally good care of this car. I was impressed. | Oct 10 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | They even had it detailed. | Oct 10 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | Normally you look under the hood and the transmission fluid is black, the coolant is brown and has stuff floating in it, the oil looks like chocolate syrup, and the entire compartment is filthy. | Oct 10 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | and the air filter has usually never been changed | Oct 10 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | Those are the kind of cars you find on dealer lots that were traded in. | Oct 10 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | They took a huge loss on them because they neglected everything and there was no way they could possibly sell it themselves. | Oct 10 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | If the used car market keeps going like it is, I'll pay $2200 for that car today and turn around 10 years later and sell it for $1,700 or so. | Oct 10 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's what happened with my Taurus. I paid $2,000 for it in 2005, and 100,000 miles later and in bad condition, it's still valued at $1,100. | Oct 10 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | and I beat the crap out of it | Oct 10 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | used cars are like crazy right now | Oct 10 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think this guy realizes what he has. | Oct 10 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | If he did, he'd be trying to wring at least $3500 out of me. | Oct 10 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | I told a dealer that called a few minutes ago about that car, and he said "So what are you paying? 34, 35?" | Oct 10 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | I said "22". | Oct 10 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | He's like "Oh, well, we couldn't give you a deal like that. Have a nice day!" | Oct 10 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Oct 10 10:24 |
| MinceR | :D | Oct 10 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | The Crown Vic is like the closest thing to perfect in the used car market right now. | Oct 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | They're incredibly unpopular with anyone under 60. | Oct 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | so the price goes down alot | Oct 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | limited market | Oct 10 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | People look at you funny when you're in your 20s and you're driving a full size sedan. | Oct 10 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | The Ford Taurus used to be a great value on the used car market. | Oct 10 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | Now they're impossible to get a good price on. | Oct 10 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone wants one because they're a fairly durable midsize sedan that doesn't guzzle gas. | Oct 10 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | So you see ones that are a 2002 with 160,000 miles going for $4500. | Oct 10 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | That's just crazy. | Oct 10 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | When I was last in the market, the Taurus was the best car for the money. Tons of gently-used mid to late 90s models were on the market at extremely fair prices. | Oct 10 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | Supply gluts drive prices down. | Oct 10 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | People ask me if I'm afraid to drive a 20 year old car. | Oct 10 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | I tell them "Not at all." | Oct 10 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | If you treat it like a machine instead of an appliance, they should keep going for a very long time. | Oct 10 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | Assuming that they were a decent car to begin with. | Oct 10 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | People treat their cars like a washing machine. | Oct 10 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | You just buy one and keep pressing the button until it doesn't work anymore, and then buy a new one. | Oct 10 10:32 |
| DaemonFC | Disgustingly wasteful. | Oct 10 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'll never buy a new car. | Oct 10 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | Not now, not ever. | Oct 10 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | If I don't have the money to buy it in my pocket, it's just not going to happen. | Oct 10 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | I really don't have any debt. | Oct 10 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | I thought I'd be cute and see what the going rate for a car loan for someone like me would be. | Oct 10 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You know what they said? | Oct 10 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Your credit rating is good, but we have to deny you because you're not in enough debt already." | Oct 10 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | I was like "What the fuck is this shit?" | Oct 10 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | I can't get a loan because I'm too responsible. | Oct 10 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | "So if I go out and get a 30 year mortgage and max out a credit card, you'll talk to me?" | Oct 10 10:35 |
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| MinceR | :) | Oct 10 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | "Yeah, pretty much." | Oct 10 10:35 |
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| DaemonFC | That's just so bad it deserves a facepalm. | Oct 10 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | "You have enough money to service the proposed debt. We'll never get you on the penalty rate or repo and resell your car. NEXT!" | Oct 10 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | That's what this national debt crisis really is right now. They have to give the banksters an excuse to downgrade our credit rating so they can "earn" more interest. | Oct 10 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | They do the same thing to people. | Oct 10 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | Banks suck. | Oct 10 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | They like people who miss a payment every now and then but get it "on schedule" eventually. | Oct 10 10:39 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/extratorrent-threatens-legal-action-over-police-ordered-domain-seizure-131010/ | Oct 10 10:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | ExtraTorrent Threatens Legal Action Over Police-Ordered Domain Seizure | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/fv8ij ] | Oct 10 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | Gives them an excuse to make their interest rate 20% instead of 3.4 | Oct 10 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | 3.4 is basically a teaser | Oct 10 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | they screen out most of the customers that can make 100% on time payments so they don't have to do 3.4 for very long | Oct 10 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I told that loan officer off. | Oct 10 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | I read her the Riot Act. | Oct 10 10:42 |
| DaemonFC | I said "I will NEVER do business with this credit union because of this. I was going to move all my accounts here, but forget it. You're rude, you're unprofessional, and your terms just suck. The only reason I was considering banking here was because it might be necessary to get a reasonable auto loan." | Oct 10 10:43 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 10 10:43 |
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| DaemonFC | oh, I left them a nasty review on Google as well | Oct 10 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | fuckers | Oct 10 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | "Denied for a car loan even though my FICO rating is good. Checked into opening a bank account there because I thought it might be necessary to get a car loan approval. When I checked into their account terms, fees, and interest rates, I was seriously unimpressed. Why does anyone do business with a bank that charges you just to have an account, order checks, and get a paper statement? Ally Bank and | Oct 10 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | Capital One 360 don't do this. Also, their employees are incredibly rude. I'm listed as a joint account owner on someone else's account and asked them if I could write myself a check on my bank account since being a joint owner makes me a member. They said "Well, YOU'RE responsible if it BOUNCES!". I have NEVER ONCE bounced a check in my entire life." | Oct 10 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | Take that. | Oct 10 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Oct 10 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | I feel better. | Oct 10 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | That's out of my system now. | Oct 10 10:53 |
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| iophk | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/10/berners_lee_on_html_drm/ | Oct 10 11:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theregister.co.uk | Web daddy Tim Berners-Lee: DRMed HTML least of all evils The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fv8m4 ] | Oct 10 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/02/5-tip-offs-to-mechanic-rip-offs/index.htm | Oct 10 11:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.consumerreports.org | Car-Mechanic Rip-Offs | Car Repair | Car Maintenance - Consumer Reports [ http://ur1.ca/fv8me ] | Oct 10 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | Engine flush: BAD | Oct 10 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | Transmission flush: Should be fine as long as the transmission isn't already damaged. | Oct 10 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | If the fluid is already brown, you should just do a drain and fill, and filter replacement, and then do another one in about 5,000 miles. | Oct 10 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | Raymond Andrews says: | Oct 10 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | KEWL so when is Obama going to finish my fence?!?! cause good fences make for good neighbors | Oct 10 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Oct 10 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think so, but then you get the neighbor that builds a pool downwind of your pine trees and then complains about the pine trees and demands that you pay $1,000 to get them cut down. :) | Oct 10 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | ZOMG PINK PONIES says: | Oct 10 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | As a side note, the pine tree story was what happened to my mom and stepdad. | Oct 10 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | The neighbor came to complain about that while I was there and I said "That's alright ma'am, no charge for the pine needles.". | Oct 10 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | I told my stepdad that she's lucky that I'm not their neighbor. After that scene, I'd be upstairs leaning outside to shake the pine tree branches. | Oct 10 11:43 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tecmint.com | 10 Screen Command Examples to Manage Linux Terminals [ http://ur1.ca/fva3h ] | Oct 10 15:48 |
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